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Robert Murray’s Winter Report: Zac Gallen’s market, Pirates/Orioles offseasons, Durbin trade reaction · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: It's the Robert Report.
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  Speaker 2: Robert Murray fans Aided Insider, FT Insider joining us right now.
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  Speaker 1: Robert.
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  Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you again, and let's actually
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  Speaker 2: start with the Orioles.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think they're done? Do you like the Bassett signing?
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  Speaker 2: Do you like the overall offseason for a team that
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  Speaker 2: was a massive disappointment last year and they did something
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good to be here with you, boys. I love
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  Speaker 3: what they've done. They were talking about this offseason being
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  Speaker 3: super aggressive and trying to really upgrade this team by
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  Speaker 3: signing guys, trading for guys, and they made it clear
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  Speaker 3: they wanted a frontline starter, they wanted to upgrade the bullpen,
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  Speaker 3: and they wanted to also upgrade the offense. And they
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  Speaker 3: set out to do that and they've done all of it,
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  Speaker 3: and it wasn't just it wasn't band aid solutions by
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  Speaker 3: any means. They ended up adding guys who can end
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  Speaker 3: up impacting them long term. They tried it for Kyle Schwarber.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously that didn't end up working out, but then they
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  Speaker 3: turn around and signed Pete A. Lonzo, They got Shane Boz,
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  Speaker 3: they traded for Taylor Ward, They've signed Ryan Hillesley they've
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  Speaker 3: added a bunch of different players to that team, and
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  Speaker 3: most recently now with Chris Bassett, and I had heard
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  Speaker 3: he was seeking around twenty million a year, and he
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  Speaker 3: ends up getting right around that at eighteen point five
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  Speaker 3: million on a one year deal. You can never really
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  Speaker 3: go wrong with that, and he's proven in that division.
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  Speaker 3: You know exactly what you're going to get one year
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  Speaker 3: deal like that, and then you pair him with a
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  Speaker 3: guy like Boz who obviously they gave up a lot
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  Speaker 3: to get him from Tampa Bay, but internally they view
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  Speaker 3: him as a guy who can be so much more
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  Speaker 3: than what he's already been that he can be a
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  Speaker 3: frontline starter. So overall, I love what they've done. They've
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  Speaker 3: been aggressive. I don't think they're probably gonna end up
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  Speaker 3: doing much more, if any like if it is, it's
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  Speaker 3: not going to be anything too substantial, I don't believe,
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  Speaker 3: but I do think you look at it, I could
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  Speaker 3: see them making some noise in that division. They've added
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  Speaker 3: enough pieces to a roster that's already had a lot
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  Speaker 3: of talent, a lot of young town. I know they've
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  Speaker 3: had the injury bug, but from everyone that they've added,
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  Speaker 3: and now you have a new manager in Craig Albernaz
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  Speaker 3: who people around him or just around that organization are
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  Speaker 3: super high on what he can be as that manager.
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  Speaker 3: I'm buying stock in the orals. I really like what
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  Speaker 3: they've done.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's awesome. I Mean, the biggest thing for me
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  Speaker 4: is what they know, what they run in. But can
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  Speaker 4: the guys take the big step?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 4: The Holidays take the next step? Athlete come back to
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  Speaker 4: what he was right, Gunner. Gunner got off to a
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  Speaker 4: rough start last year. They need Westburgh to be big.
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  Speaker 4: They need some of the guys mount Castle or whoever,
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  Speaker 4: you know, whatever his role is on this team, right,
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  Speaker 4: they need these guys to jump in and be big
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  Speaker 4: pieces and take the next step. You mentioned their new manager.
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  Speaker 4: Can he help them do that? Can he help these
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  Speaker 4: guys take the next step?
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  Speaker 3: I totally believe he can. And you talk to people
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  Speaker 3: around Cleveland and he was super highly regarded for obviously
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  Speaker 3: what he helped with Stephen Vote as the manager there,
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  Speaker 3: but also just the way that that organization as a
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  Speaker 3: whole was able to maximize players in Cleveland. And now
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  Speaker 3: he's got a much higher payroll, He's got higher level
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  Speaker 3: talent in Baltimore than he had in Cleveland. So I
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  Speaker 3: do believe they're in a better position now to maximize
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  Speaker 3: those abilities to end up trying to take that next step.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a big reason why they hired him, Especially
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  Speaker 3: a guy like Ali Rutchman, who number one overall pick,
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  Speaker 3: really hasn't lived up to that hype that he had.
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  Speaker 3: There's been a bunch of well entering the off season,
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  Speaker 3: there was a bunch of trade roomors surrounding him, and
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  Speaker 3: I didn't view the Orioles as a candidate to really
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  Speaker 3: sell low on him. They still believe in him totally.
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  Speaker 3: But that being said, like it's I think it's fair
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  Speaker 3: to say that his tenure as Orioles manager could be
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  Speaker 3: defined by how guys like Holiday or Rutchman or some
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  Speaker 3: of these other guys if they take the next step
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  Speaker 3: or not.
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  Speaker 6: A managers alway as good as his players. Robert, So
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  Speaker 6: you've cracked the code, like some other people refuse to
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  Speaker 6: think that people can crack the code. Let's go to
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  Speaker 6: the Pirates. You think they had a good offseason? Correct?
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  Speaker 3: I do? I love it? Yeah? I do?
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  Speaker 6: Is it enough? Did they do enough to be what
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  Speaker 6: they need to be with a Paul Schins on their
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  Speaker 6: roster which is a playoff team.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I said it on the last show. I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember if it was a j or Todd who
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  Speaker 3: ended up giving me flack for calling the Pirates a
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  Speaker 3: playoff team. I do think actually, I think it was
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  Speaker 3: Todd now that I really think about it.
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  Speaker 5: Here, I'll give you fla. I give you there we Go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there we go. I would It wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: on Fall Territory if I wasn't getting some flak for
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  Speaker 3: some of the stuff I said about the Pirates. So
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  Speaker 3: it's good. It's good to be back boys. But anyways,
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  Speaker 3: I love what they've done. They this offseason. They really
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  Speaker 3: wanted to go out and upgrade the offense, and they
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  Speaker 3: got Ryan O'Hearn. They've made some trades to upgrade the
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  Speaker 3: roster as well, and now they're bring in Marcelo Zuna
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  Speaker 3: to pair him with Brandon Law and some of these
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  Speaker 3: other guys. And defensively, you may not be what you
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  Speaker 3: were last year, but offensively, you got to think that
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  Speaker 3: floor for that for the run scoring there is going
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  Speaker 3: to be way higher than it once was, and that
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  Speaker 3: that's really what they set out to do. They obviously
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  Speaker 3: ended up targeting some bigger names. They were interested in
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber that obviously didn't end up happening. From Bervaldez
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  Speaker 3: was a player that they actually were on the entire offseason,
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  Speaker 3: and they were maybe wondering if or maybe hoping that
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  Speaker 3: they can end up pouncing on an opportunity. Obviously, he
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  Speaker 3: ended up going to the Detroit Tigers in a deal
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  Speaker 3: that really ended up bolstering that rotation. But they've added
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  Speaker 3: three meaningful guys to that lineup. I would imagine like
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  Speaker 3: they'll still try to be in some conversations to maybe
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  Speaker 3: upgrade the third base, but I would also look at
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  Speaker 3: starting pitching and also like bullpen depth as areas that
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  Speaker 3: they could try to target here as well. But from
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  Speaker 3: an overall offseason standpoint, they really wanted to upgrade the offense.
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  Speaker 3: I believe they did that, and that is why I'm
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  Speaker 3: higher this year than I've ever been with the Pirates
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  Speaker 3: about their playoff chances. Obviously, you got to prove it
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  Speaker 3: on the field, but also I mentioned Craig albernaz is
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  Speaker 3: a guy that I was really high on with Baltimore.
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  Speaker 3: Everything I've heard about the new manager there in Don
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  Speaker 3: Kelly with the Pirates, I like obviously spring training is
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  Speaker 3: just starting. Everyone's optimistic. But people around Pittsburgh really like him,
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  Speaker 3: So I'm buying stock in the Pirates.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone always likes the new manager, Robert. Don't you know
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  Speaker 4: that everyone loves a new manager because they're not the
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  Speaker 4: old manager. So yeah, listen, I love Don Kelly. He's great, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: But I'm just you're high on the Pirates. We love
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  Speaker 4: what the Pirates have done. They've spent money, they've made trades,
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  Speaker 4: they've done all these things. But give me, are they
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  Speaker 4: better than We're just gonna run? Are they better than
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  Speaker 4: the Dodgers?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 5: They better than the Mets?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 5: Are they better than the Phillies?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 5: Are they better than the Cubs?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 5: Okay? Are they better than the Brewers?
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe. So I think I would put.
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  Speaker 5: Them better than the Braves because I'm just I just
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  Speaker 5: keep going. Are they better than the Braves?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Well they're six we haven't even gone Padres Diamondbacks. Right,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying they're gonna make the playoffs. I could
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  Speaker 4: see that one hundred percent. We didn't get to the Reds.
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  Speaker 4: You did make the playoffs last year, right, and the division?
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  Speaker 4: My question for you. This is where I get into this.
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  Speaker 4: The National League is a bitch. Okay, the National League.
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  Speaker 6: Is a bitch.
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  Speaker 4: They're not in the AL Central, right, They're in the
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  Speaker 4: NL Central when they actually Cubs and Brewers are pretty
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  Speaker 4: good and the Reds. People forget, three teams from the
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  Speaker 4: NL Central made the playoffs last year. So yes, I
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  Speaker 4: understand what they did, but isn't it enough to get
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  Speaker 4: them into the postseason.
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  Speaker 5: It might be a big stretch.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's it's it might be. It might be a stretch,
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  Speaker 3: And like, maybe I'm drinking the kool aid here for sure,
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  Speaker 3: But there's always surprises that come with the regular season
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  Speaker 3: and everything like that, where injuries happen, under performances end
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  Speaker 3: up happening, and I could see if there's ever a
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  Speaker 3: team that can go out and take advantage of that,
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  Speaker 3: I could see that end up being the Pirates because shoot,
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  Speaker 3: like obviously we're talking about their their offense being better,
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  Speaker 3: but their rotation when you have that kind of pitching
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  Speaker 3: and that kind of like high level talent that can
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  Speaker 3: get you, that can sneak you into the postseason and
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  Speaker 3: really make you a postseason matchup nightmare. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know who exactly they're going to displace, like the fact
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  Speaker 3: that I mean, shoot you, you said it better than
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  Speaker 3: I could about the National League and just the overall
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  Speaker 3: state of it. It's going to be tough, but they're
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  Speaker 3: better positioned to make some noise now than they have
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  Speaker 3: than they have ever been.
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's hit some of the starting pitchers there
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  Speaker 6: are still in the free agent market, namely Zach Gowan.
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  Speaker 6: Is this going to be boring and he's just going
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  Speaker 6: to go back to Diamondbacks because they're the only team
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  Speaker 6: that wouldn't get a draft pick. But essentially they lose
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  Speaker 6: a draft pick because at the end of this year
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  Speaker 6: they couldn't get one.
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  Speaker 3: From him now for sure, And I do think there's
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  Speaker 3: a better chance of him returning now, especially with the
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  Speaker 3: Orioles going out and getting Chris Bassett than there has
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  Speaker 3: been this winter. And like you look at the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the potential market for a guy like him, like
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  Speaker 3: the San Diego Padres have been connected to him, I
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  Speaker 3: don't necessarily know if they have the funds to go
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  Speaker 3: out and do something quite like that, so ill we'll
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  Speaker 3: see there. The team that I like that I think,
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe they're going to be in on Gallen,
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  Speaker 3: but I think the Atlanta Braves should explore that because
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  Speaker 3: we'll get into that here in a little bit, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: But they need starting pitching help, and I think that'd
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  Speaker 3: be a tremendous fit for them. The Los Angeles Angels
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  Speaker 3: need some pitching help too, and I could see them
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  Speaker 3: being in on a different level of player than Gallen.
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  Speaker 3: So I do believe like there's gonna be other teams
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  Speaker 3: that are gonna be interested in here in Gallen. For sure.
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  Speaker 3: He's a very good pitcher player who's very familiar with Arizona,
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  Speaker 3: came up with it with that organization, and the money
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  Speaker 3: is not lined up to the point where he's been
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  Speaker 3: able to sign with them or just anywhere else. But
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  Speaker 3: the longery lingers in the market, to me, the odds
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  Speaker 3: of him returning to Arizona increase. So that is one
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  Speaker 3: that I'm watching for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously, anything that happens in spring training, you know people, Oh, well,
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  Speaker 6: who's available Zach Gallen. If I say the name the
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  Speaker 6: Phillies with Zach Wheeler maybe not making his first few starts,
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  Speaker 6: the fact that they have a rookie in Andrew Paynter,
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  Speaker 6: that's essentially all but put into this rotation doesn't show
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  Speaker 6: well in spring training. And Gallen's essentially from Philly, grew
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  Speaker 6: up in South Jersey, He's a local kid. Do you
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  Speaker 6: see that or do you feel like the Phillies payroll
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  Speaker 6: is tapped out right now?
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  Speaker 3: I don't. To me, it should be tapped out because
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  Speaker 3: they had the money to go out and sign Bobaschet
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  Speaker 3: for two hundred million, So they clearly have money to
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  Speaker 3: spend if the right opportunity goes out and presents itself.
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  Speaker 3: So to me, they shouldn't be ruled out for any
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  Speaker 3: of these players. But I have not heard the Phillies
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  Speaker 3: linked to Gallon at all in free agency. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean that they're not that they couldn't go out and
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  Speaker 3: sign him tomorrow or sign him today, but I have
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  Speaker 3: not heard that. But the Phillies, to me, they need
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  Speaker 3: to go out and do something, whether it's shooting, making
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  Speaker 3: a trade, maybe it's adding to the rota there, or
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  Speaker 3: maybe it's waiting until the trade deadline where they can
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  Speaker 3: utilize those resources that they save from not signing Bashett
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  Speaker 3: And maybe it's going out and getting a starting pitcher.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's going out and getting a bat. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think everyone in baseball is kind of wondering what
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  Speaker 3: exactly ends up happening actually with Anthony Bonda was just
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  Speaker 3: traded to the Twins. So there's that one. But as
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  Speaker 3: far as philod Well, going back to what I was
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  Speaker 3: saying before, everyone in baseball is going to be wondering
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  Speaker 3: what exactly happens with Trek Scooble. Are the Tigers in
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  Speaker 3: contention at the deadline and if so, do they hold
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  Speaker 3: on to him and try to compete for one more year?
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  Speaker 3: Are they out of contention? And do they possibly look
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  Speaker 3: to trade him and maximize whatever return you can get
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  Speaker 3: before he goes and becomes a free agent. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: But one thing I do know is that Dave Dombrowski
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  Speaker 3: loves star players. In if schoobl or if any other
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  Speaker 3: player is available at the deadline, then to me, he's
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  Speaker 3: going to explore it. And considering he didn't sign Baschett,
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  Speaker 3: he's got the money and the resources to go out
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  Speaker 3: and do it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So who are the team that needs to make
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  Speaker 4: the biggest move? You're you're kind of talking a little
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  Speaker 4: bit about them, But who's the who's the one team?
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  Speaker 4: You said the Braves? You know, you're you're talking Phillies here,
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  Speaker 4: is those the teams or is it your Pittsburgh Pirates
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  Speaker 4: that still need to do more there, Robert, because they
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  Speaker 4: are now your Pittsburgh Pirates.
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  Speaker 3: They are my Pittsburgh Pirates. I mean, shoot, I yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean he can have baby. I'll actually go with should.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go with the Yankees as the team that needs
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  Speaker 3: to make the biggest move because they've run it back
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  Speaker 3: this entire offseason with the roster that ended up having
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  Speaker 3: last year and they're still they're spinning it as that
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  Speaker 3: they're still they they're still able to compete in the
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  Speaker 3: American League East and also in the American League. But
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  Speaker 3: if you're that team and you go out and obviously
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  Speaker 3: they lost Juan Soto a couple of years ago, but
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  Speaker 3: they've basically run it back with the exact same team
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  Speaker 3: from last year. To me, if they can go out
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  Speaker 3: and make a splash, whatever that could be, whether it's
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  Speaker 3: now or whether it's at the deadline, you need to
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  Speaker 3: add some some new voices or new faces to that
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: team into that clubhouse. So if they can make a big,
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  Speaker 3: big splash of the deadline and maybe part ways with
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  Speaker 3: one of their high end prospects to facilitate a trade
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  Speaker 3: like that. To me, they stand out as a team
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  Speaker 3: that could, that could and should do that. The San
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  Speaker 3: Diego Padres, obviously they want to compete with the Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles Dodgers in that division and try to dethron them
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  Speaker 3: in the National League. A j probably loves taking a
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  Speaker 3: big swing, so you always got to watch for the
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  Speaker 3: Padres being a team that could take a big swing.
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  Speaker 3: So those are the two teams that right now, besides
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  Speaker 3: my Pittsburgh Pirates, that stand out as a team, uh
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  Speaker 3: that that should make a big splash.
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  Speaker 1: Did we get to the Braves?
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  Speaker 5: Mm hm?
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  Speaker 1: Would you say we get to the Braves?
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  Speaker 5: The Braves?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: What about them?
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  Speaker 1: Roberts heading there? He was gonna we were gonna get
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  Speaker 1: to the Braves.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I thought, I thought. I mean, he've you
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  Speaker 4: already talked about him? Were you not listening? Were you
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: on your phone? Scott Football? Oh man, you know what
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: I would say this about you, Robert. I give you
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  Speaker 4: credit for wearing that shitty hat on TV. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather see you in a Pirates hat than what
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  Speaker 4: you have on now. So at least you could have
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: worn the Pirates at.
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  Speaker 6: Volunteers.
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  Speaker 4: They're not even sign there they're not even real players,
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  Speaker 4: they're volunteers. As my aunt once said when she was
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: watching a basketball game, she goes, how can Tennessee win?
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: They're not even real players, They're just volunteers. Rest in peace, Aunt, Claudie,
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Aunt claudieh By the way, Claudia Robert, Sorry, we got
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: We're We're off the rails today. The Bruce made an
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: interesting trade the other day with the Caleb Durban and
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Kyle Harrison and that whole thing. Why did they do this?
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Because it seems like Caleb Durban was like the perfect
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Brewer player. He did everything, he could play a bunch
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: of positions. He was fast, he can put the ball
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: in play, hit you Homer every once in a while.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: They just need they wanted Kyle Harrison that badly.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I honestly, I think that's exactly what they had in
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: mind here. And usually I can see what the Brewers
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: are trying to do. But at first, when I saw
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: that trade, I was really confused by it because I
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: didn't hear any Durban trade rumors whatsoever. He was the
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: guy that felt like a perfect Milwaukee Brewer, a five
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: foot seven guy where he's being coached or managed by
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: the guy that coached Dustin Pedroia at ASU, like it
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: felt like he could be their next version or his
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: next version of Dustin Pedroia. And he had a great
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: year last year, really like became a fan favorite in Milwaukee,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: was a difference maker in that infield. And then you
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: ship them away on a rookie contract to the Boston
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Red Sox. And I was asking around about this, and
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I'm I was kind of caught off guard by it,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: as I said, but the Brewers have had such success
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: in maximizing pitchers and getting the best out of them,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: and they've done it for years, and they continued it
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: last year by getting Quinn Priester, a former first round
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: pick of the Pittsburgh Pirates and then who was also
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: then traded to the Boston Red Sox. And now they
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: make another their trade here with the Red Sox. They
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: get Harrison and he is as high upside guy as
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: that they've they've brought in on a move like this,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: and he was a former first rounder of the Giants,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: someone that they they've envisioned being their next version of
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Madison Bumgarner in San Francisco, and obviously it didn't work out.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: He's moved for Rafael Devers and he was like the
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: eleventh guy on the starting pitching depth chart for the
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Red Sox. But the Brewers clearly see something with Harrison
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: where they think they can fix him and if that
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: ends up working, where they can get him back to
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: that front of the rotation level kind of guy, or
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: at least like the the upside that they believe that
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: they that he has. If they can get him there,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: then that trade is going to look like a steal.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: But it's a huge risk because Durbin seems like a
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: guy who's only continuing, continuing to ascend. I don't know
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: if I would have done it if I was a Brewers,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: but they proved me wrong time and time again. So
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: clearly they see something in Harrison, and maybe we should
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: be thinking of him as a frontline guy before too long.
• 18:01
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• 19:02
  Speaker 6: I just want to hit a little bit of the
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: Red Sox getting rid of Harrison. Essentially there's one more
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: player left that they had gotten for the Dever's trade,
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: like you had said, Jo Sway, And I'm not one
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: hundred percent remembering his.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Last name Bayol, Yes, Bayo.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: How has this looked at in Boston because obviously they
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: got rid of Mookie Bats, obviously they got rid of sale.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: He won a cy young. Is this a sad end
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: to what they thought was going to be tons of
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: value that they're getting for Raffie Devers, and just reality
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: strikes that Red Sox fans have to realize their owner
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: is more worried about his F one team or his
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: racing team and his soccer team.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you got a call it like you
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: see it. This feels like it was a total salary dump.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: And that's really unfortunate for the Red Sox because the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Red Sox big market team. They are, they should be
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: competing for a World Series year in and year out,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: and they've moved on from Mookie Bets. Now they move
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: on from Rafael Devers and we should not be talking
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: about the Boston Red Sox like that at all. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: in shoot like a part of their logic too, or
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: a part of their thinking is you've moved on from Devers,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: that's going to make it a lot easier for you
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: to go out and retain a guy like Alex Bregman.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: And then they were basically told what they needed to
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: offer to sign him and they ended up losing him
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: to the Chicago Cubs. It's a tough one to spin
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: like they I like some of the moves that they've done.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Getting Durbin was a really nice move. They've upgraded the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: rotation a lot they I think Craig Brezl has done
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: a nice job there, But trading Rafael Devers like that
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: was a move that it feels a lot like what
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: could ended up happening, or what ended up happening with
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: heim Bloom where that mooky bets trade really kind of
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: defined his tenure there, and I hope it doesn't for
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Breslo because he seems like a nice guy. He's done
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: some nice things there. But shoot, I feel bad for
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Red Sox fans because, as I said, that's not how
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: we should be talking about the Red Sox at all.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: We should be talking about them going out and signing Bregman,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: signing a Bobuschett who they were interested in, signing Schwarber
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: who they were interested in, and yet they lost out
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: on all three of those guys, and that just stinks.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: What about Estoc parades my too high on East Sick parts.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I think he would have been a nice fit there.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: H seems like that conversation kind of died down.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: It has and although like he makes a lot of
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: sense there, I've wondered I haven't heard this, but I've
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I've wondered this, and I've heard it speculated by other teams.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Could he end up being a fit for the Milwaukee
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Brewers where they don't they move basically their entire third
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: base or a third base depth chart, And could that
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: end up being a fit there for for the Brewers.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I wonder if that could end
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: up being something they explore.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: H all right, we'll check it out.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Is to the Brewers, Murray said they're going to take
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: the Pirates.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I would love to see that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: I love too.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: That would be something. Give me a.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Sign, Milwaukee, can you signed somebody?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: He signed that? We actually pacticked It was to.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: See if if Robert knows who the Brewers signed?
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, lets see, Yeah, Robert. And who's the other one
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: they signed this offseason before that?
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Who was?
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: No?
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Don't look, no, can't look.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm trying to. I'm not. My hands are here,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Gary Sanchez.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: And who's the other one altfielder? Used to be a Tiger?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: I killed But there here you go. Robert, You're so good.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm trying my best. Boys, that's uh. And you're
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: thirty dude? How about that?
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Shoot?
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I can't believe I turned thirty yesterday. What are we
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: thinking about that? Boys?
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Yesterday?
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Happy birthday?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, I appreciate it big time?
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Are you? Are you?
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I'm an easy in Scottsdale.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Perfect.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I'll be there Monday so you can take me out
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: to dinner for your for your birthday.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: What?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: No, what's making it happen? We can talk about we
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: can talk about our Pittsburgh Pirates. Our Pittsburgh Pirates are.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh common ground.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: We actually Scott is Scott is the resident Pirate fan here.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: When they got off to that? When did they get
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: off to that twelve oh star last year? Every year,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Scott's like, A're gonna win the division.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I've never done that. I've been the.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Low guy for a while now and I've just been
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: collecting checks for a while.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Anyways, the Pirates target because the need eat this.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: They deserve this. Man, Ballpark's great, it's a great city.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: They deserve this. So I hope they are got, I
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: really do. I just don't know. I don't know if
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I see him making the playoffs, but I think they'll
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: be vastly improved.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: More competitive.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well, birthday boy, We'll let you go. Hopefully
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you run into a j out there in Arizona. We
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: appreciate the time I did get distracted for a moment
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: because I switched up the rundown. We're gonna talk about
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: a Jesse Rodgers story about the base coaches, so we'll
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: get to that later.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: But Robert, you're the man. Appreciate you, dude.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Hey, thank you guys at a j I will be
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: taking you out to dinner next week. I promise you that.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: You will hit you up.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Said yes, I will.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: I'll hit you up sweet, and I love for you food.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Tell you three things. There you go and you even
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: get an appetizer. Appreciate you, Robert, talk about thank you guys.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Oh Kratz, you're gonna like this one. Bet MGM futures
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: team with the most regular season wins. I was shocked
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Dodgers minus one seventy five, minus one seventy five. Then
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: you have the Phillies at plus twelve hundred. Mets Philly, Wait,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Mets and Phillies are on there. Toy Phillies are on
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: there twice. Take that down.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: We gotta fix that.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Gotta be the Yankees.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I can actually I have it. I'll read it for you.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: It's Yankees plus twelve hundred Phillies plus fifteen hun Dred,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Blue Jays and Mets are also plus fifteen hundred. Brewers
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and Mariners are plus sixteen hundred. Clubs are plus eighteen
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: hundred against the minus one seventy five on the Dodgers.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Who had the most wins in baseball last year?
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Brew crew?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, who had the second? I mean the Dodgers were
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: getting top three?
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yankees.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Is it a given that the Dodgers will have the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: best record in baseball.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Because they don't even care about the regular season?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I remember last year, everyone's like they're gonna win one
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: hundred and ninety six.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: No, everyone's like they're gonna win one hundred and sixty
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: two games and never lose.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: They didn't.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: I'm aware.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So is this a good bet to pick a few
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: teams somewhere?
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: A bet if you're not picking them?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Should you pick some.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Other you get in the field? Can I get to
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: what's the field?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe I can see there's a special for that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: I don't think they I don't think they'd do that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: I don't think they give you the field. But I
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: mean to me, I'm laying something on whichever team you
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: feel like has the best shot at being I wish
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: I'd look this up ahead of time, because there's teams,
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: there's teams that can that can have more wins. They
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: won't be in the National League West. I think the
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Dodgers want to win the National League West, and the
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Dodgers want to win all their games like they That's
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: that's not at all what we're saying here. We're saying
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: they're not going to have Yamamoto on two days rest
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: like it's the World Series and they're starters in the
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: bullpen to win every single game. No, they're going to
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: They're going to mitigate it so that guys have rest,
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: Guys are as fresh as they can be. They're already
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: starting with Blake snow he has arm fatigue from his
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: playoff run. Like I think it's I think it's just
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: the reality of situation. So I think there's value somewhere
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: in that Yankees, Blue Jays, Phill, these Braves, Mariners type
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: of to me, I would I would bet. I would
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: bet more on the American League side of it. So
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: if I'm putting three teams down, I'm saying from this list,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: I'll take a little, you know, half a unit on Seattle,
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: half a unit on Toronto, half a unit on the Yankees,
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: and I think that's going to pay out big time.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: A at least can scare me.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Right, That's why I mean towards the Mariner Like Mariners.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: I don't think the good enough the Tigers like. Give
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: me the Tigers and El Central. It's just so many
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: I get it. The Brewers did last year. Yeah, but
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: then Central is better? To me? What is? What division
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: isn't better? I think the Royals are better. I think
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: the Guardians are down for a down year. So is
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: it the Tigers? Do the Tigers with this new vaunted
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: rotation do they get a lot of wins like they
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: were on pace for it the entire season and then
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: they all star break hit, So I you know, I
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: think that's where your value is too, because the East
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: is going to beat each other up, but routinely they're
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: really good teams in the East.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Sold Tigers.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: That was the team I liked last year, and man,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: they had it going. I think they had the best
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: record in baseball in the first half.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: They didn't and they didn't win the division.
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