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Charlie Kirk's Accused Killer Tyler Robinson Faces a June 2028 Trial (11/10/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Judge
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  Speaker 1: Graff has set a trial date for Tyler Robinson in
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  Speaker 1: the matter of the murder of Charlie Kirk. And according
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  Speaker 1: to Judge Graff, this trial is now set to kick
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  Speaker 1: off on June 21st of 2028. And as of now,
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  Speaker 1: that's when things are going to kick off. But as
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  Speaker 1: somebody who's followed a lot of these kinds of cases,
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  Speaker 1: capital cases, There's usually delays. So I would not be
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  Speaker 1: shocked to see a delay at some point where this
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  Speaker 1: trial gets pushed back. And I know people don't want
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  Speaker 1: to hear that, but that's how it usually works. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just look at Brian Koberger as an example. How many
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  Speaker 1: different delays? How many roadblocks on the way to him
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  Speaker 1: pleading guilty, right? We're talking about years. And my guess
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  Speaker 1: is it's going to be the same here. But of course,
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  Speaker 1: that's just all speculation. What's not speculation, as of right now,
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  Speaker 1: is the date of this trial. So today, we have
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  Speaker 1: an article from the New York Post and the headline,
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  Speaker 1: Judge Sets Trial Date for Accused Charlie Kirk Assassin Tyler Robinson.
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  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Priscilla DeGregory and Jared Downing.
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  Speaker 1: Accused Charlie Kirk Assassin Tyler Robinson has lost a bid
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  Speaker 1: to postpone his case until 2029, as a Utah judge
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  Speaker 1: set the capital murder trial for the summer of 2028.
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  Speaker 1: And from the state's perspective, the sooner the better. The
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  Speaker 1: longer this drags out, the larger the risk becomes for
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  Speaker 1: the prosecution. Evidence gets lost. People forget things. People might die.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot to be considered. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why when we have complex cases like this or RICO,
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  Speaker 1: the defendant is quick to suspend their right to a
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  Speaker 1: speedy trial because they understand the stakes. And when you're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with something as complex as a capital murder case,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of discovery, a lot of evidence, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of hurdles that have to be jumped over
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  Speaker 1: to get to a point where you're ready to bring
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  Speaker 1: it to trial even. And that's the stage we're in now.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that we're going to see things start
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  Speaker 1: to accelerate a bit as far as court filings and
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  Speaker 1: discovery and all of that. But I have my doubts
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  Speaker 1: about this trial kicking off on the exact date That
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  Speaker 1: the judge has put on the calendar and not because
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  Speaker 1: I think the judge is bad or because I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's some tomfoolery going on. It's just a
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  Speaker 1: very complex situation. And to make sure that Tyler Robinson's
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  Speaker 1: constitutional rights are respected, the court's going to go the
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  Speaker 1: extra mile, just like they did for Brian Koberger. Jury
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  Speaker 1: selection for the highly anticipated case against Robinson, who's accused
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  Speaker 1: of killing the 31-year-old conservative activist in front of a
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  Speaker 1: crowd of thousands, is set to begin on June 21, 2028.
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  Speaker 1: Judge Tony Graff decided on Monday. Graff set aside 105
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  Speaker 1: trial days, or roughly five months, for the case that
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  Speaker 1: will not only require a jury to decide Robinson's guilt,
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  Speaker 1: but also whether he should be sentenced to death if
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  Speaker 1: found guilty. And that, of course, is a whole different
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  Speaker 1: process because normally the jury convicts and then the judge
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  Speaker 1: will sentence, right? But when it comes to a capital
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  Speaker 1: murder case, it's up to the jury. So not only
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  Speaker 1: did they have to deliberate about the verdict, they have
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  Speaker 1: to deliberate about the punishment too. Robinson's team asked the
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  Speaker 1: judge to hold off the high-profile trial until the summer
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  Speaker 1: of 2029 on the grounds the lawyers needed the extra
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  Speaker 1: time to wade through an overwhelming amount of evidence. Look,
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  Speaker 1: there is a case to be made for that. And
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  Speaker 1: not because I think that Tyler Robinson's, you know, innocent
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  Speaker 1: or he's being wrongly prosecuted, but because I want everything
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  Speaker 1: to be on the up and up. The whole entire investigation,
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  Speaker 1: the trial, everything has to be fair for everybody involved.
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  Speaker 1: So if that means that it has to take a
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  Speaker 1: little bit longer, then so be it. Let's make sure
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  Speaker 1: we get it right. The last thing anybody wants is
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  Speaker 1: is for this whole thing to happen, and then later
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  Speaker 1: on down the road, something gets overturned on appeal. Who
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  Speaker 1: wants to go through that bullshit again, right? So it's
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  Speaker 1: a good idea to make sure you get everything right
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  Speaker 1: the first time. And so far, from the court documents
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  Speaker 1: and what we've read, it looks like the state's doing
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good job. There haven't been any Brady-Gilio issues, really,
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  Speaker 1: that we've heard, none that have been amplified. So it
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  Speaker 1: looks like the state is meeting their obligation when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to the discovery of at least as of now.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that the big issue is going to
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  Speaker 1: be all of the tests. They're going to try and
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  Speaker 1: run tests on Tyler Robinson about his mental capacity, if
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  Speaker 1: he has any kind of, you know, educational defects, whatever
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  Speaker 1: it might be. And then they'll try and use that
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  Speaker 1: as mitigation if it gets to a point where he
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  Speaker 1: has been found guilty and they're trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what the punishment will be. Graff said that he considered
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  Speaker 1: the Kirk family's request for an earlier trial date against
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  Speaker 1: Robinson's right to sufficient time to prepare for the lengthy
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  Speaker 1: and serious trial, essentially arriving at a date in between
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  Speaker 1: the ones proposed by both sides. And if you recall,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I said would happen. He'd split the baby,
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  Speaker 1: and we'd get a date that is somewhere in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what he did. And that's usually what
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  Speaker 1: the judge will do, unless there's something that's egregious, right?
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  Speaker 1: The judge will try and make it fair for everybody involved.
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  Speaker 1: And in this situation, according to Judge Graff, the right
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  Speaker 1: way to go was splitting the baby. Here the schedule
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  Speaker 1: gives counsel time to review missing records, consult experts, and
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  Speaker 1: assess meaningful leads before making those choices for capital mitigation,
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  Speaker 1: the judge said at a hearing on Monday. And there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a lot going on from now to then,
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch. And I'm talking about all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: testing because they're going to look for any escape hatch.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever they can find to help mitigate any kind of
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  Speaker 1: guilty verdict, they're going to try and use it. whether
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  Speaker 1: it's autism or dyslexia, whatever it might be. So it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a battle of the experts once again.
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  Speaker 1: Given Mr. Robinson's current status, unnecessary delay remains a serious concern,
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  Speaker 1: the judge said, apparently referring to the fact that Robinson
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  Speaker 1: is in jail pending trial. Kirk's family wasn't happy with
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  Speaker 1: Graff's trial date. Well, of course not. Can you blame them?
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  Speaker 1: They want this shit to be over and done with.
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  Speaker 1: And if I was the victim or my family member
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  Speaker 1: was the victim, I'd want it over and done with too.
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  Speaker 1: Who wants to drag it out, especially for years? Have
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  Speaker 1: you seen the shitstorm around Erica Kirk? And you know
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  Speaker 1: what gets lost in all of that? The fact that
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  Speaker 1: she has children. Her kids have to deal with all
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  Speaker 1: that bullshit too. And I find that to be pretty reprehensible.
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  Speaker 1: You can go after Erica Kirk, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are making it personal. How about you save some
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  Speaker 1: of that energy for Clayne Maxwell? Today's decision to delay
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  Speaker 1: the trial of the man accused of murdering our beloved
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  Speaker 1: Charlie until at least June 2028 is deeply disappointing. The
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  Speaker 1: slain activist's family said in a statement, and again, I
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  Speaker 1: understand completely. I'd want this shit to happen yesterday. Who
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  Speaker 1: the hell wants to navigate this shitstorm? Never mind a
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  Speaker 1: grieving widow. Or, you know, kids or whatever. Or what
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  Speaker 1: about Charlie's parents? So I certainly get it, right? But
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  Speaker 1: I also understand... that this is so complex that Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Robinson has to be given the time to build his defense.
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  Speaker 1: While nothing will restore the time we have lost with Charlie,
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  Speaker 1: every additional day without justice prolongs our family's pain and
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  Speaker 1: forces us to wait even longer for accountability. Meanwhile, Erica's
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  Speaker 1: lawyers had said each hearing induces anxiety, pain, and mourning
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  Speaker 1: for the widow and the two young children she had
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  Speaker 1: with Charlie. And look, that's horrible, right? Nobody wants to
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  Speaker 1: hear about kids missing their dad. It's just a bad
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  Speaker 1: scene all the way around. But that doesn't change the
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  Speaker 1: fact that Tyler Robinson has constitutional rights that have to
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  Speaker 1: be respected. The Kirk family deserves to have this matter
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  Speaker 1: resolved expeditiously. Kirk family lawyer Jeffrey Neiman has argued in
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  Speaker 1: court papers. Kirk's side also noted if the case dragged
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  Speaker 1: on for years, taxpayers would have to continue to foot
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  Speaker 1: the bill for Robinson's pricey death penalty lawyers who have
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  Speaker 1: already billed 1.6 million. Neiman said, that's the way the
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  Speaker 1: system's set up. If you don't have the money for
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  Speaker 1: a lawyer, one will be provided for you. And when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to a capital case, not every lawyer is
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  Speaker 1: the same, and not every lawyer is able to deal
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  Speaker 1: with that. So he has to have a specialized lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where a Kathy Nestor comes in and the
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  Speaker 1: team around him. And listen, I'm not saying I agree
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  Speaker 1: with everything that's happening, right? I don't want you to
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  Speaker 1: misunderstand me. I'm trying to explain to you the reality
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  Speaker 1: of the situation. Way too many people don't want to
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  Speaker 1: shoot you straight. Way too many people want to run
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  Speaker 1: game on you and narratives. But the fact is, in
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  Speaker 1: a case like this, anybody who thinks the trial is
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  Speaker 1: just going to crack off right away has not been
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  Speaker 1: paying attention and doesn't know what they're talking about. And
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  Speaker 1: as much as you might dislike Tyler Robinson or think
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  Speaker 1: that he's guilty, he has rights under the Constitution and
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  Speaker 1: those rights have to be respected if you want a
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  Speaker 1: real conviction. Because if you trample on his rights... He's
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  Speaker 1: not going to get convicted, and if he does, it'll
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  Speaker 1: get overturned on appeal. So the idea is to have
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  Speaker 1: a good prosecution the first time around to avoid all
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  Speaker 1: of that. Robinson, 23, is charged with first-degree murder and
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  Speaker 1: related charges for allegedly perching on a rooftop firing a
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  Speaker 1: gun over a crowd of 4,000 people, including kids, as
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  Speaker 1: the Turning Point USA founder was speaking at Utah Valley University.
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  Speaker 1: According to prosecutors, Robinson then allegedly bragged in a text
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  Speaker 1: message about the killing to his trans partner, Lance Twiggs,
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  Speaker 1: before he was arrested roughly a day later. Prosecutors claimed
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  Speaker 1: He was motivated to take out Kirk for espousing beliefs
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  Speaker 1: supporting traditional relationships that were repugnant to Robinson's LGBTQ plus lifestyle.
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  Speaker 1: Prosecutor Ryan McBride said at a hearing last month. And
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have to prove that, right? Because as
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  Speaker 1: of now, they haven't made that case. That's what it
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  Speaker 1: looks like. And that's probably what happened. But they haven't
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  Speaker 1: made that case. Because we haven't heard from other people
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  Speaker 1: about rhetoric coming from Tyler Robinson. talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: going after Kirk or anything like that. So the defense,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to hang their hat on that. And they're
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  Speaker 1: going to say, this is all just made up propaganda.
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  Speaker 1: And Tyler Robinson, it wasn't because he hated Charlie Kirk's
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  Speaker 1: way of life, blah, blah, blah. That's the path they're
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  Speaker 1: going to go down. Is it going to work? I
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  Speaker 1: doubt it. But I believe that's what they'll do. Robinson's
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  Speaker 1: lawyers have claimed the prosecution video and DNA evidence are
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  Speaker 1: unreliable and claimed any animosity Robinson had against Kirk was
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  Speaker 1: unrelated to his love life. And that's pretty much the
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  Speaker 1: blueprint for them, right? Well, this is all BS. It's overblown.
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  Speaker 1: And Tyler Robinson didn't hate Charlie Kirk. That's what they're
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  Speaker 1: going to try and argue. Good luck. Robinson is pleaded
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  Speaker 1: not guilty. He could face death by a firing squad
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  Speaker 1: if he's convicted at trial. Yeah, and that's because the
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  Speaker 1: death penalty is still in effect in Utah, and there's
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  Speaker 1: problems with the lethal injection. whether it's getting the chemicals,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's having somebody do it, or whether it works.
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  Speaker 1: So now you have these states that have brought back
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  Speaker 1: the firing squad, including Utah. So buckle up, folks, because
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the trial of Tyler Robinson, I
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  Speaker 1: have a feeling we're in for a bumpy ride. All
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  Speaker 1: the information that goes with this episode can be found
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