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3 Guys Before The Game - Lightning Strikes Dukes (Episode 487) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Hey, welcome in everybody. It's time for another one of these things.
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  It's Sunday morning as we record. It's episode number four hundred and eighty seven
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  of three guys before the game, title Lightning strikes Dukes. What do you
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  think? All right? Title working lightning. There's no questions. We had
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  to right, absolutely had to. To my knowledge, third time i'd seen
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  one thing that said second time a game has ever been delayed at Mountaineer Field
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  three. We had, obviously the Marshall season opener, the one that people
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  don't remember, the one people don't remember. It's nineteen and ninety one Virginia
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  Tech. You and I remember it. I do. I was working television
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  on the ninety one Virginia Tech game and was doing an interview on the sideline.
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  I was a sideline boy, sideline boy, and it was a lightning
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  strike that went off like way in a distance, and I felt it in
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  my microphone. I went, probably done enough of this wasn't properably grounded,
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  obvious, and then obviously the Marshal one was longer than last night's. Last
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  night's officially clocking in like one hour and fifty some minutes, nearly two hours
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  one fifty three is the official one. Fifty three is the official delay.
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  West Virginia gets the victory. We got a lot to talk about, Thanks
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  so much for being with us. Three guys before the game is brought to
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  I think every person that attended last night's game looked at the parking lots quick
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  check. I think everyone there had gotten fuel from Gomart on their way into
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  the stadium. Actually, there was a check Tony and at about eleven o'clock
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  last night, there was more people at the Flatwoods gomart than there were Milan
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  Pushcar Stadium. Yeah, thinned out a bit. Three guys brought to us
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  state of West Virginia. And three guys all so brought to us statistically by
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  the Conley CPA Group, providing value beyond the numbers. All right, as
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  they say, let's do this thing, we jump in. As West Virginia
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  evens it's record two one and one on the campaign, the Mountaineers win it
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  by a final number of fifty six to seventeen. Fifty six to seventeen,
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  a game that will be remembered on a couple of fronts. Obviously the weather,
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  you know, will always remember the delay because of the Okay, it
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  was really, as Charles Dickens, as Charles Dickens once wrote, it was
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  a tale of a quarter and a half. Isn't that what he's saying?
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  Is that what he's saying? It was the best of times it was the
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  worst of times. It was a tale of a quarter and a half.
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  So we get to the eight minute mark in the second quarter, and to
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  be quite honest with you, the score was fourteen to ten, and I
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  think collectively Mountaineer Nation was not feeling well, not feeling well at all on
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  a couple of different fronts. It was a lot of what in the heck
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  is going on here? And then after the delay, light ball turns on
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  and West Virginia just dominates the rest of the game to get to where we
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  are. As I said, we're doing this Sunday morning. We have not
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  talked, we have not conversated about the game yet. So let me turn
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  it over to the gentleman wearing a gray three guys piece of apparel. Wa
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  wait a second, Oh, there's two guys with you got the quarters zep
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  and now you're going with a standard three guys. That's very nice. Where
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  do you get that? Brad episode eight hundred dot com? Thanks for us.
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  You can buy them from right there. Yeah, this was one of
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  the ones. Actually we gave out at our second event, I believe,
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  second live of that was one of very very nice. Okay, hop give
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  me your take, man, I'm interested. As we all know, God
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  is a Mountaineer fan, and the Good Lord looked down in the first quarter
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  and a half, saw miss assignments defensively, saw an offensive line that was
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  not controlling the defensive line as they probably should have, saw drop passes,
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  all drop touchdown passes, saw the angst that was building in Neil Brown,
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  and he threw down a lightning bolt. Paul. Thank goodness that he did,
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  because that lightning bolt stopped the game. Let West Virginia regroup and came
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  out with a much much more fine tuned performance after that because West Virginia Ducane
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  was within a penalty Tony that screening penalty of tying the game at that point.
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  Yeah, offensive pass in. Yeah, So it was not clearly mountain
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  your nation was frustrated at that point, but as you said, it was
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  it came out. Credit Mountaineer coaches and players for coming out and being much
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  more effective after the long day and taking care of business. El Senatore use
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  this analogy last night on our game day broadcast. You know how if you're
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  a cable subscriber, occasionally, like you'll turn your TV on and there's no
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  sound, you see the picture, but there's no sound. It makes you
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  crazy. It just makes sure what's what is going on? Why don't I
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  have any sound? So you call the very helpful cable services. You wait
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  on hold sometimes for four or five hours. They answer the call and then,
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  like all good IT people do, all due respect the IT field,
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  as all good IT people do, the first thing they say is what plug
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  that and plug that back in? See if that works. Okay, thank
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  you very much, thank you. A lot of times it does work.
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  To their credit, That's what happened to mountaineers Hoppy, just on plugged and
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  plugging them back in. Everything worked totally fine. It was great also.
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  I know you were all doom and gloom over there, but it was really
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  nice of the football I don't know if that's the NCAA or the college Football
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  Playoff Committee. It was great that last night they actually gave team sixty minutes
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  to play. You didn't give you all your grades and your evaluations after a
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  quarter. That was really nice. Something new when ahead gave you sixty minutes,
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  so you had a full game to make your evaluations there rather than just
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  one quarter. Yeah, I was a little bit gloomy and doom. Now
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  you weren't alone. I mean I can understand it. I mean I can
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  I can get the feel when it was happening until the light bulb turned on,
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  or until you replugged and started the thing over again. There were concerns.
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  There were concerns well and then and then it was just it was on.
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  That thing ends in to use a kerchival from his coffee clatch, a
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  Macro term versus micro. That's exactly where you needed to be. You put
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  up fifty six, You covered the spread, you rolled, you threw the
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  ball deep, you ran the ball super effectively, and oh lo and behold,
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  we kept talking. You need a guy who the receiver is going to
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  be behind Devin Carter, who is going to step up and be a player?
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  Oh Hudson Clement stepped up. Former Metro News Player of the Year.
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  Was a stud. Yes, So here's my takeaway of the game. Okay,
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  the next step. Now you're one and one. I've said from the
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  beginning, you got to win three in a row here in this homestand now
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  we'll find out on Saturday night exactly where they are because we've seen both extremes
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  now, but this is what I took away from last night in the first
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  two games. There are players who have identified themselves who need to play more,
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  and there are players who have identified themselves that they can't play anymore.
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  I'm not and I'm not trying to be fun. There's some guys. There's
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  some guys now where you just say I'm sorry, you're done. Keep working
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  really hard, and you can become a backup because I can't trust you.
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  And that's the way that it has to be. You don't get more chances
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  because now more chances will prove to be fatal for you as far as the
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  winds and the losses go. And that's just plain and simple. You're given
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  your chance, you can't you're not. You sit and let the other ones
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  come up and let them go. I don't care. There has to be
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  ramifications for not fulfilling your assignment. That's what it is now. I'm not
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  to say everyone has to be perfect, but there are certain things that are
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  basically and fundamental to the game and you cannot do those. I cannot trust
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  you, go away, you know. And Tony, there's there's a little
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  bit of a middle ground on that because Preston Fox that normally always dependable.
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  Preston Fox made two mistakes. Dropped the pass drop that touchdown pass, and
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  also on the punt reception. He's supposed to be pointing on a short punt,
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  He's supposed to be pointing, get out of the way. But he
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  took the According to Neil Brown after the game, he took the criticism well,
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  came out and played well after that. I got zero issues with Brett
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  on Fox. That one was also just incredibly bad luck. I mean,
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  what that you know, an oblong ball bouncing in a weird direction happens to
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  hit the Colby Spells. That was just that was bizarre, which was a
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  little bit unfortunate. On the turnovers because Western he finally got those interceptions we
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  had talked about right they had were around him in the Penn State game.
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  Beany Bishop of an Om a tremendous first intercept, but then two of the
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  most one of the most bizarre turnovers you're gonna see. It just bounces back
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  and hits to Colby Spells. And the other one is what is one of
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  the quite frankly dumbest rules in all of football. Excuse me on the Rodney
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  Gallagher, what a great effort to dive in there. He's inches or an
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  inch from a touchdown and hitting the pylon instead, the ball comes out,
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  it's a fumble into the end zone and it turns into a turnover on you
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  talk about an overly punitive penalty call. I mean, that's the rule,
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  so it is what it is. But what a stupid rule that is.
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  So West Virginia comes out flush on turnovers, but really should have been ahead
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  on that. That was But you know, and you're right, I mean,
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  Gallagher's trying to make a play. But Brown said after the game that
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  they coached them unless it's fourth down, to do that. Correct. Yeah,
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  correct, correct, Uh, you know what I do? You know
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  they do, and Kneel's right, and they do. But this is one
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  of those things I think sometimes we criticize guys and said, oh, why
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  why are you guys trying to make a play. Yeah, he's on the
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  field to make his entire life. He has made great athletic plays. He's
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  trying to make a play. He wants to earn more playing time. He's
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  trying to get in the end zone. It's a stupid Yeah, it's an
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  error, it's a stupid role. It's an air of comission because he's trying
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  to do something, not an air of old mission. We didn't do something.
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  Yeah, and I know Neil talked about preston Fox post game with that
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  thing but not pointing. Okay, fine, I think he's got a little
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  something punt return. I think I think the average eleven yards. Yeah,
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  I think I think he got a little something punt return that you can get
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  some positive yardage which we have not had. And let me think forever.
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  I mean it's been like I think forever since he's been able to get some
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  yardage on punt not since Wally Drewy. That'd be eighty four season. Speaking
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  of Pit, he had a punt return for a touchdown. He did eighty
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  four game against Pitt. We'll talk more about that coming up. So let's
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  talk about Hudson Clement. I love these stories here. He comes from Martinsburg
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  High School as a walk on, scored like two hundred and six touchdowns in
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  the state championship game. And you may shrug your shoulders and go, well,
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  okay, state championship game. But when I talk to people about they
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  told me this is well before this happened, they said, like he's just
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  a football player, like he just like he just plays football. He just
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  makes football plays, and he goes out there and has that awesome honor of
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  your first reception as a college player being a touchdown, and he ends up
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  five for one seventy seven. And to put that into perspective, he joins
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  Tavon Austin and Steadman Bailey as the only Mountaineers to get one hundred and seventy
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  five receiving yards and catch three touchdowns in one game. Deceptively fast. And
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  I think, to my knowledge, first Mountaineer receiver in school history, and
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  this goes back to one hundred and thirty one years to play with diamond ear
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  rings. And I mean they're not studs. I mean he got he got
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  some ice in his ears. Center. Do you notice that I did.
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  Yeah, he's got he's got icy ears. And I think that that could
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  be a little bit of his Maybe it's the gleam as he as he breaks
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  down on a defensive back coming out of that helmet. But whatever, the
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  dude can ball. And this is a fun story to a couple of things
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  about him, and that is that that it was impressive Brad. They're on
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  the long touchdown catch. He caught the ball, great pass by. It
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  was actually a little bit late on by Green and ran away from the defender.
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  Defender could not catch him. I thought that was impressive. Second of
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  all, you know that that the coaching staff is looking for other guys at
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  the receiver position. So when that game was over, they barely got in
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  the locker room and they're up to commencing you've got a scholarship. Yeah,
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  you're in. Don't worry. I'd asked them about that preseason and they said,
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  he's gonna get one. He's gonna get one. They just said last
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  night. Why why wait? Battlefield Promotion said, yeah, So I called
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  his state championship game when he had eight touchdowns in the game up there and
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  reeling for television. It was as good a performance as you would expect for
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  a guy that had eight touchdowns. On the stat line, he was clearly
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  the best player on the field. And I don't know that you need to
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  say he's deceptively fast. I think he's just fast. And Neil pointed that
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  out afterwards, and I think that was the key line and everything he said,
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  because that's what's going to allow him to play when you get into Big
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  twelve competition, that's what you need. It can't just be the good hands
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  are great, make catches you have to do, but you've got to get
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  some separation at times. So I think the fact he's he's got some decent
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  size and he's got that speed, that's where you look at him and go
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  okay, now that needs to translate into big twelve play because this team desperately,
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  desperately needs a number two receiver. We've been saying it for months.
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  There are balls to be had out there in the passing game beyond Devin Carter.
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  Who is that going to be? Hudson? At least for one night,
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  showed he was that guy. Can he pick that up and move it
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  forward? You know? And to your point, he is a football player
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  and showed it last night. That was a tremendous night. And interestingly,
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  guys, is that the injury to Devin Carter kind of kind of forced Clement
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  into that position like he was the go to guy. He might not have
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  been off Carter was there, so it allowed him to emerge as a as
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  a receiver. Here's here's a couple of things. I say, deceptively fast
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  because he doesn't have that body build that long. You know, normally when
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  you say you look at a Tavon Austin body. You look at a little
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  speed guy that goes. But he I mean when he beats people, it's
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  not by a step or two. I mean he trucks by on. Here's
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  another thought on this. I think as the season goes, Okay, you
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  may not have played your two best receivers last night. Your two best receivers
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  maybe Carter and treyln Ray. And I'm saying, as he develops and it's
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  October and November, that dude might be the dude. And he sat down
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  last night. So now you're starting to build something here. Or you potentially
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  have Carter, Clement and Ray and you know what you got? Now,
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  now you got some business. But he hasn't played yet. He played last
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  week, and based upon the coach's comments, they think he's a dude.
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  They think he is a dude. Now I got a little bit of a
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  thing right now. That sat him down last night, But he should be
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  ready to go this week. You might have some dudes there if you get
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  you know this Brett, If you get three guys that you what do we
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  always say, who do you know? Going down the field? Can we
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  catch the ball? If you've got three guys that you can trust. You
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  got chance. Well, Hudson was not just the big play, but he
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  also there's a big first down on the right hand side of the field,
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  far side from the press box, and they needed a first down third down.
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  Went to Hudson with the catch. Here's the other part of that.
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  Don't dismiss how well Garrett Green through the deep ball last night. That's the
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  second part of that. I mean, he was absolutely money and not all
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  of them were caught either, So he Garrett Green through it extremely extremely well.
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  That that was good to see and encouraging to see. And we've been
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  on here screaming or I've been screaming about you gotta find exposed to plays.
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  You gotta push the ball down the field. I'll give you some yards per
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  route run we talked about the other show. I'll give you some of that
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  when we get into the stats segment. That was outstanding last night. I
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  know it's opponent adjusted, I get it, but you did exactly what you
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  wanted to against that opponent. We're going deep. You know we're going deep.
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  You can't stop us going deep. We're gonna run by it. And
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  they did in by the way, as a quarterback. I'm gonna put it
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  right on the money. Yeah, And he was very and Neil Brown said
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  that after the game they wanted to do that because they wanted to test that
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  deep ball. Gary Green through great balls deep. But they pointed out again
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  not to be the negative guy, but again Brown pointed out that again he
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  still struggles some of those short passes. It's a good point. I was
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  just gonna say that that's the second week in a row that if you talk
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  to the WVU coaches, they go like, man, yeah, he's throwing
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  the deep ball, and they're going like, we have to hit the short
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  stuff. We have to hit the intermediate stuff. Those are what keeps things
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  keeping here, which is I guess this. You'd rather have that be the
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  piece that he has to fix rather than a guy that doesn't have the strength
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  of the arm to throw and be the deep threat. You'd rather have that
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  you can get that other part of it fixed. Once he gets that other
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  part of it fixed, And if you're able to do both, then you
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  got listen the way this team is constructed, that's one hundred percent right.
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  If you're picking one with this team that can run picking up three hundred yards
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  on the ground last night. You need that deep ball to work to back
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  that defense up and allow space. If this offense can create space for itself,
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  then never mind the intermediate passing game, which yeah, they're of course
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  right, you'd like to make that. But also guys aren't going to be
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  perfect either. They're not going to make every single throw every single time,
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  so you've got to remember that. But if this team can create some space
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  on the field, then you've got some running lanes and you can take off.
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  So if I'm picking one, the long ball, I think is more
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  important at this point for this offense to create those running lanes, you know.
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  And but on the short passes there were a couple of nice little plays
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  though that they ran. Where now that you have a mobile quarterback back where
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  Tony Green rolls to the left or the right, maybe they fake a hand
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  all first rolls to the left or the right, is he going to run
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  The defense has to be aware of that, or if the defense commits,
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  he pops it out to Cole Taylor. They had a night. I think
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  he ran to the left, a nice little completion, you know, picked
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  up you know, first down or something like that. That's a nice little
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  play that you can only get if you have a mobile quarterback. Agreed,
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  we haven't talked to any defense yet. Give me your takeaways on defense smothering
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  in the run game, that defensive front was outstanding. Ducane with three running
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  yards last night, three rush yards last night averaged point one yards per rush?
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  Is that good? Point one yards per rush? At a certain point
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  Ducane just gave up on the run. They I mean, I know they
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  got behind as well, but they just could not run on the defensive front
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  of West Virginia. So that was very good. Defensive backwise, still a
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  major concern early before you unplugged the computer and plugged it back in that there
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  was some blown coverage. There was some huge cushions that were given inexplicably on
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  third and eight and you give a fourteen yard Christian. There was the defensive
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  back play early was really concerning. After the break, they came back out
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  and we're not only better but more aggressive, also got more up on there
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  and did a better job. But that's We're gonna watch those defensive backs all
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  the way through. That's the part that has to continue to grow. Neil
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  Brown said after the game. He said, quote to say, I'm frustrated
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  with the defensive backfield. To say I'm frustrated would be an understatement. Got
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  to be better. So that's an acknowledgement which everybody knows, is that defensive
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  backfield is a real issue. And I don't know what you do. I
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  mean, you're playing the guys you got, so I don't know what the
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  answer is there. I'm not sure if they know that is a huge concern.
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• 22:03
  sir, well, I'm just gonna say just a random observation, and
• 22:07
  Brad I'm sure has the stats and to be either verified or say it's a
• 22:11
  crazy comment. But I thought that that Sean Martin and Lockhart showed you a
• 22:14
  couple of things. I thought they made some plays, yeah, yeah,
• 22:15
  very nice, encouraging, encouraging, But Lockhart made was it Lockhart that made
• 22:19
  the tackle chase the guy down. He was a pass dressed and was the
• 22:22
  first guy to get there on the ball that almost I don't know if they
• 22:25
  ended up scoring it out, but it got down to the goal line.
• 22:26
  So Lockhart went like a twenty five yard chase the guy down after he was
• 22:30
  pass rushing. Yeah, you know what's encouraging about that. When he first
• 22:34
  got here conditioningwise, physically, there was a lot of work to do,
• 22:40
  and he has done the work. And Mike Joseph and his gang should be
• 22:44
  heavily credited with that because they've made him in the soccer terminology. You know
• 22:49
  what they'd say, Brad, he's very fit at this point. He's very
• 22:53
  they call it fit and soccer they look at you say he's very hoppy,
• 22:56
  is very fit. I mean, that's a second game in a row that
• 23:00
  he's made tackles down field and that's a big dude at the nose guard spot.
• 23:03
  So that's encouraging. Shawn Martin also has the opportunity just to just be
• 23:08
  a dominant, any physical player. But again, let's face it, Okay,
• 23:12
  that is a rebuilt offensive line from Duquesne. It is a different division
• 23:17
  of play Saturday, and going forward, we'll see weekend and week out.
• 23:22
  But at least it's encouraging at this point. Yeah, but it's two straight
• 23:26
  games where I thought the defensive fronts burning pretty good. You hold that Penn
• 23:30
  State rushing game with those guys that it has to what you did. And
• 23:33
  then yeah, you're right, you came out. But but here's you know
• 23:36
  what, that's who they were playing last night. They weren't playing Pitt or
• 23:38
  Penn State or anybody else. They were playing the guys in front of them.
• 23:41
  And they lined up and said, yeah, we're better, bigger and
• 23:44
  stronger than We're gonna push you around. And I thought the defensive front got
• 23:45
  a tremendous push up there and did a did a nice shob. Yeah,
• 23:49
  I apologize to you. What I apologize to burn? Well, this won't
• 23:56
  be legit. What do you mean, it's so rare it won't be a
• 23:59
  legitipower. He's bathing you. He's bathing you. No, that's a sincere
• 24:04
  apology. I know that time and numbers become better with time, and here
• 24:14
  we example size. Yeah, so here we are less than twelve hours after
• 24:18
  the game, and I'm going to ask you for grading. So that's like
• 24:22
  super hard to do. Because we've got an independent people that have to grade
• 24:25
  the tape for Pro Football Focus and so and so do they change it all
• 24:29
  like they do? They'll during a week. Yeah, and and quite frankly,
• 24:33
  is as hard as this for me. It's harder for Pro Football Focus
• 24:34
  because they're the ones doing the work. But yeah, so they so they
• 24:38
  did. I credit them to be this quick after the game and it's been
• 24:41
  up for a few hours. I was looking at all the morning. They
• 24:44
  did a great job of getting it up. But yeah, they'll tweak and
• 24:45
  move some numbers here. So whenever you hear me on these review podcasts quote
• 24:51
  actual grade numbers, just know he may hear a different number quoted as the
• 24:53
  week moves on. All right, let's jump into some of these numbers.
• 24:56
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  grades say? So far? Early precincts reporting here from glasses? What are
• 26:00
  you doing there? It has credibility to its numbers, and those new glasses
• 26:04
  no had him for a while, thank you? Oh okay, First and
• 26:08
  foremost overall grade eighty nine point four. Quick perusal tells me it's the fifth
• 26:15
  best grade since and including the twenty fourteen season, and it basically ties for
• 26:21
  fourth. Eighty nine point five is just a click above that, So fourth,
• 26:25
  fifth best overall grade? How far is it back? Does it twenty
• 26:27
  fourteen season? That's the I mean, that's how PFF does they go back
• 26:30
  to twenty fourteen? Yes? Correct? Pretty good? Okay, you like
• 26:36
  that? M encouraging. So a couple of things that are that we recapped,
• 26:41
  that we've talked about on previous shows. That let's circle back. I've
• 26:44
  talked a lot about yards per attempt from an offensive and a quarterback perspective.
• 26:48
  What that needs to look like moving forward? That number's got to grow.
• 26:51
  How does thirteen point three yards per attempt sound for Garrett football? Again?
• 26:57
  As I often say, sometimes these stats this back back up what you saw.
• 27:00
  We knew the passing game was extremely good last night, and that showed
• 27:04
  it. Some of these I'm gonna I'm gonna click through as we go,
• 27:07
  so feel free to talk a little bit here as we move forward, Tony,
• 27:12
  sure to buy me a second of time here, you know, Brat,
• 27:15
  thank you very much. I've been known to jump in or to a
• 27:17
  time or two there. And Hoppy, what about my apology to him?
• 27:19
  It was sincere It was legitimate. It wasn't apologizing four because he were forcing
• 27:23
  him to give numbers so quickly after the game that they're not. It's hard
• 27:27
  to do that. He would like. He likes to get a very detailed,
• 27:32
  long, expansive look at the numbers before he comes in here and lays
• 27:36
  them down, so it's hard on him. You know, the last show,
• 27:40
  we talked about yards per route run, Hoppy, you liked that new
• 27:45
  odd on that one, Yeah, and we said two yards per route run
• 27:48
  is really good. That's a that's an elite receiver. So let's look at
• 27:52
  some of these numbers from yesterday. Do you want to take a guess on
• 27:55
  Huts and Clement's yard per route run runs thirty seven point seven seven point seven
• 28:02
  yards, which I still don't understand the stat. It's elite. I still
• 28:04
  don't understand the stat. So could get define it for me? One he's
• 28:10
  taking his glasses off. Now he's going to display me one more time like
• 28:12
  I'm a third grader. Yeah. So it's just basically, it's it's pretty
• 28:15
  simple. The number of pass routes you are running not targets. Right,
• 28:21
  there's multiple pass plays in a game that the receiver is not targeted on.
• 28:25
  So okay, so out for a pass play. They are a potential receiver
• 28:30
  in a pass play. Okay, okay, divided by the yards receiving yards
• 28:37
  per route run, his yards that he catches, like his one seven receiving
• 28:41
  yards run. So let's say he ran forty snaps, so it's forty divided
• 28:47
  by one seventy seven gives you seven. Correct, the number of times he
• 28:52
  ran for a route divided by one seventy seven be something like that. Yeah,
• 28:55
  correct, Okay, I got it. Now, you get it.
• 28:56
  Yeah. And so the reason that's a more effective metric of overall receiver performance
• 29:03
  at times is targets is one thing. Receptions as a whole another. But
• 29:08
  how many times are you out in the route where they don't throw the ball
• 29:11
  to? Were you not open? You get it? You understand the importance
• 29:17
  of it now, yeah, yeah, I get it. Okay. And
• 29:18
  it's and so it's only past places because so they may run arounte if there's
• 29:22
  a run, but it's only if it's a pass play. Yards per route
• 29:26
  run. They're not running a route necessarily on a running play. Yeah,
• 29:29
  they're not counting that right as a turning out. I might have to retire
• 29:33
  yards perut run because you don't understand that we're just brought it's a new stat
• 29:37
  I think it's a relevant stat It's just we're trying to understand the context.
• 29:41
  Cold Taylor two and a half yards per route run. Okay, so go
• 29:45
  back. You mentioned those NFL tight ends, they're they're right around that too,
• 29:48
  ye Kelsey. Kelsey's a click above two, which again one of the
• 29:52
  greatest tight ends, if not the greatest tight end you've ever seen in terms
• 29:55
  of pass catching. So that gives you a comparison. These aren't going to
• 29:59
  be big god numbers most of the time. If you're up around that two,
• 30:02
  that's that's really good. Preston Fox two point eight three CJ Cole two
• 30:07
  three point four last night, So again shows that they were pushing, pushing
• 30:11
  the ball down the field. So I thought that was really impressive. Wyatt
• 30:15
  Milem the highest graded blocker coming out of last night's game. Here's one to
• 30:22
  keep an eye on. Running game was outstanding all night, as you saw.
• 30:26
  But how about the results to the outside run to the left, which
• 30:30
  is who's over on the left side? Correct? Ninety seven of your rushing
• 30:34
  yards came around the left edge. So if your three hundred and some,
• 30:37
  roughly a third of your rushing yards came around that left edge, thirty seven
• 30:42
  percent of the rushing first downs came on runs in that direction and three of
• 30:48
  your four rushing touchdowns. So Wyatt Miylem was very good. And if you
• 30:51
  if you watch the game closely, you saw Nick Malone on one of those
• 30:53
  blocks, had a guy had a guy locked up about seven yards down the
• 30:56
  fielding it was Jehime White, then turned the corner and took off for a
• 31:00
  touchdown. So the left side was very good. Speaking of Nick, you
• 31:03
  think he might want to play pretty well here Saturday? Yeah you remember?
• 31:07
  Yeah, I don't remember. They pulled his scholarship they offered him and then
• 31:11
  they pulled at pitt. Oh, Nick some some for him. Here's another
• 31:15
  fun number that you'll you'll watch. In addition to the blocking was very good,
• 31:19
  especially on the left side. West Virginia had fourteen missed tackles forced fourteen
• 31:26
  on the game. That's a huge number of West Virginia ball carriers making the
• 31:30
  defender miss so fourteen of those that's pretty impressive. Yeah, so there's kind
• 31:36
  of some knit stats. What do you want to know? Who do you
• 31:37
  want to know? Overall? Grade wide, tremendous, highest graded offensive player
• 31:42
  again ninety point five. Wow. And he was eighty eight last week.
• 31:45
  Yeah, eighty ninety one point two in the past game. Again, as
• 31:48
  you would expect he was. He was tremendous stroying the football. Wyatt mile
• 31:52
  M's second highest graded offensive player at eighty five six overall. Brandon Yates checking
• 31:56
  in with a nice grade eighty two four for Yates last night. Played a
• 32:00
  little bit of guard and center yesterday, so that was good to see.
• 32:02
  He did. Jahim White, you know, the preseason Heisman runner leader in
• 32:06
  the Brown mentioned index. I'll say this, we kind of yucked and giggled,
• 32:08
  haha. Neils mentioned Jahime White again. Chad's got, oh, look,
• 32:12
  you're mentioning Jim White. Got another mention. I kind of see why
• 32:15
  they were mentioned to Jaime White. Yes, he was fun to watch.
• 32:17
  He runs nine inches away from the ground and his legs are fire hydrants and
• 32:22
  he's hard to get a good hit up. I like him. There was
• 32:25
  one time on the right edge where he came around where there was a scene.
• 32:29
  The blockers did a nice shot, but there was a linebacker, defensive
• 32:31
  lineman that had a beat on him. He just he just kind of shook
• 32:35
  him and just ran straight by him, you know. What he is.
• 32:37
  He was fun to watch. Football player. He's just football player. I
• 32:40
  mean, you could see there are dudes that just it's in eight. It's
• 32:44
  natural. You could just tell it's not forced. He just football plays.
• 32:47
  He's football plays. He's very and I'm not saying he's there yet as a
• 32:52
  player, because I know people lose their mind when you start comparing. Hey,
• 32:54
  he's but stature wise, he's got some Deuce Vaughn in him. He's
• 32:58
  a little compact guy that is durable too and can run. I mean he's
• 33:02
  got a lot. I like, I see why he led the brown mentioned
• 33:05
  in. So you're backfield. Here's the thing. Your backfield, as expected,
• 33:09
  looks really good. That was scary when C. J. Donaldson came
• 33:13
  out, looked like they were looking at that shoulder again that he comes out,
• 33:15
  came back in, which was a good sign. Jalen Anderson again continues
• 33:19
  to show you stuff well. And then you and I commented one of the
• 33:23
  last practices of fall practice, we were there and I commented, separate from
• 33:28
  you, we saw the same thing in two different practices. DJ Oliver Man,
• 33:31
  I don't know that you can fit more guys in. I mean,
• 33:35
  you're gonna have to run it one hundred and twelve times a game if you
• 33:37
  want everybody to have carries. Dj Oliver looked the part. I might start
• 33:39
  calling him baby Andrew really because it runs like Andrew back to Green. He
• 33:47
  also has an intangible about him, I mean his enthusiasm. I mean,
• 33:53
  you can just tell he's he's just a game or guy. And there was
• 33:59
  that where he got his helmet ripped off and he was just like, give
• 34:01
  me the helmet to get back in there. I mean, he he has
• 34:04
  that. It got a lot to him. He's got a lot to him
• 34:07
  because he's that size. He knows he has to Oh yeah, yeah,
• 34:12
  he's a boy. He like we said, like the short passes and things
• 34:15
  like that, he just needs to take that one step where he consistently is
• 34:21
  consistent. When he gets that and he's starting to make those short throws,
• 34:24
  those intermediate throws and they're popping off there, then he's got that deep ball
• 34:28
  threat, then you might have an opportunity to really get something brewing here.
• 34:31
  Absolutely with the running game. I gotta tweet this morning from Ryan Morris tweets
• 34:37
  us. I know you don't look at Twitter for the show very much.
• 34:38
  But Ryan tweet and said, w V now is that x now? I
• 34:43
  don't know. WV now has six different players with rushing touchdowns this season?
• 34:47
  Is this true? Everyone who has a rushing attempt has a rushing touchdown this
• 34:52
  season except Rodney Gallagher? That is true. Yeah, six different guys have
• 34:54
  all rushed and Gallagher should have say for that stupid rule. So anyway,
• 35:00
  so there's some who else individually? Do you want to know because we got
• 35:01
  a bunch. Do you have any defensive grades? Yes, thanks for asking,
• 35:07
  Tenny, Okay, defensive grades if you have it in your head.
• 35:12
  As to who played well, uh, I think we mentioned two of them
• 35:15
  already. Lockhart and Martin. Yeah, both decent. Lockhart up there a
• 35:21
  little bit, the one to keep an eye on because he should flash his
• 35:24
  last night. Not not a lot of snaps, not a lot of snaps,
• 35:29
  but you saw it. I liked Lathan a lot. Yeah, he's
• 35:31
  up there again. He was your fifth highest rated defender all snaps included,
• 35:36
  your third highest when you're taking guys that that played more snaps. He was
• 35:38
  good again. He was good at Penn State as well. He's coming player,
• 35:43
  the guy that that flashed a couple of times he ends up as your
• 35:45
  highest graded player. But again just got credited with ten snap ten snaps,
• 35:51
  fatormamba. Right, he's a guy. If he can keep coming along,
• 35:54
  that's a that's a big piece in there. Our guy Maliki Ruffin had a
• 35:59
  nice had a nice grade along with Beanie Bishop. So two defensive backs up
• 36:02
  there. You know, we talked about that their performance early so that they
• 36:06
  played well. Bartlett McLaren in the top ten lead Cobo of course up there.
• 36:10
  Yeah, so a bunch of guys playing well. Okay, sounds good.
• 36:16
  Kickoffs were done well, yes, not giving them returns very little.
• 36:21
  Good job. I mean kick a couple in the end zone and Danny King
• 36:23
  came in and Danny Danny hit a moonball on the in the air out of
• 36:28
  the back of the end zone, which is nice. Six total touchbacks last
• 36:30
  night for West Virginia. Yeah, that's something that yeah, yeah, so
• 36:36
  six out of nine so and boy, what was bright. I'm sure you
• 36:38
  have a stat like the last couple of years when you don't get in the
• 36:40
  end zone, like field position, a field position stat which has been damaging
• 36:44
  for West Virginia for a couple of years. Yeah, if I have it,
• 36:45
  right. Last year was an overall minus six in field position on the
• 36:50
  season. And I've said this stat before. If you're if you're minus ten,
• 36:54
  you lose like nine. It's like ninety three percent of the time or
• 36:57
  something ridiculous. So yeah, field position obviously huge, wasn't an issue last
• 37:00
  night. Those touchbacks helped tremendously. West Virginia was plus ten in field position
• 37:06
  last night, came away with an easy win. All right, numbers not
• 37:09
  enough numbers. Yeah, those are good. Good, nice job, did
• 37:13
  a nice job, solid work, short notice, very good. This is
• 37:17
  gonna be a fun week. This is gonna be a fun week, great
• 37:22
  week. Yeah, very much looking forward to it. I know you guys
• 37:27
  weren't the game, but I'm sure TV didn't carry it. But they played
• 37:30
  that song over the public address system late in the game. That's sweet Caroline
• 37:37
  played that? How'd that go? I had my headsets on, But it
• 37:42
  seems as though most of our fans know the words change the words nice coming
• 37:46
  off a loss, Coming off a loss, they won't be thrilled about at
• 37:50
  home. Just Cincinnata, Yeah, how about that? Yeah, they gave
• 37:54
  up a lot of rushing yards to the old barrack Hants saw that. They
• 37:57
  did good, saw that. So what you're saying, Brad, They struggled
• 38:04
  to round the mall against the America Hats. Didn't throw it to well either,
• 38:07
  which is fine. Be a good matchup. As you know, when
• 38:12
  two old rivals get together, you can throw the record book out the window.
• 38:15
  That's what they say. Do you know West Virginia's never lost a home
• 38:19
  game on September ninth, Yeah, undefeated all time. I did see that.
• 38:24
  I did see the causation of correlation, anecdotal. Correlation anecdotal, completely
• 38:30
  irrelevant to what actually occurs, just coincidence, interesting, unscientific. You're ready
• 38:37
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• 38:40
  the lightning delay, I think it was going to be like a supersized version
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  called three guys and a stump before the Game. Excuse me? What's on
• 40:04
  the stump? I'm old boys, the man, I'm old boys brought brought
• 40:07
  a stump with them. They got nails inside that stump and they're doing something
• 40:13
  that One dude got a hammer in his head. What what's going on going
• 40:15
  on over there? Is that like the like when and stimpy you play with
• 40:20
  the log I know where that is too. That's across that's the that's ther
• 40:24
  United Bank building across that's I know where that is, sir, what are
• 40:29
  they doing? There was no explanation provided it says three guys in the stump
• 40:32
  before the game, and it says XL XL medium. I don't know,
• 40:37
  but it works. I kind of dig it because it's so weird. Here's
• 40:39
  the next one, three guys. I promise we'll do better next time.
• 40:43
  My shirt size is a large. Here's the next one. Three guys at
• 40:45
  a white table early season for the Tailgators as well. We gotta work,
• 40:52
  you know. The simplicity is no is it's interesting text, some stuff on
• 41:00
  the table. Then yeah, they got that empty bottle. So they had
• 41:05
  this empty bottle on a bag of chips. Isn't as a hell of a
• 41:07
  tailgate? You gotta go in there, boys, three guys. No one
• 41:12
  else is around there. Let's get everyone on the record. Would you trade
• 41:15
  next year's home game against Penn State for a home game against say East Carolina?
• 41:20
  And for the sake of this question, you can't say that you'd move
• 41:22
  the Penn State game to another year down the road. Finally, for what
• 41:25
  it's worth, West Virginia did get Texas removed from this year's schedule. Would
• 41:30
  I trade yes, Center, I'm sorry. I wants to know if you'd
• 41:36
  dump the Penn State game next year to play a team that you should be
• 41:40
  sure text. I was driving home from lows On Here in Roanoke, all
• 41:52
  due respect, listening to a Thursday's episode to get ready for the Dukae game.
• 41:57
  I laughed out loud at Hoppy, falling right into Tony's toll troll trap,
• 42:00
  saying that Brad should have talked down Tony's expectations around the food court.
• 42:05
  You can't make that easy on him, Hoppy. So he thinks you went
• 42:07
  too light on me about the food court situation. I don't know what I'm
• 42:12
  out of the loop on that, and it all seems very clandestine and Tonya,
• 42:15
  so I don't know what's going on with that. No idea, Brad,
• 42:20
  typical Brad fashion. He's gone silent. Tony, You've backed way off
• 42:27
  while I can from say, oh, it's gonna happen like so, I
• 42:30
  have no idea where we are on it. Well, I won't tell you
• 42:31
  where we are. We'll tell you where we are, Okay. Borrowing a
• 42:37
  cataclysmic careful now impass, Borrowing a cataclysmic impass. The three guys food court
• 42:45
  will be open this week Friday and Saturday, and rather maybe why did Brad
• 42:53
  say to me, I expect you might expect to call from an angry city
• 42:57
  official. Why did you say that to me? I don't know. I
• 43:00
  think the folks in the city have They've been wonderful, just terrific people down
• 43:07
  there at corporate headquarters. They get everything passed through. Think that there.
• 43:09
  So it's yeah, so you're announcing that it's on, I said, borrowing
• 43:15
  a cataclysmic unexpected impass. Yes. I think we're good. We're in good
• 43:21
  position. Just have to get some have to get a letter or two finalize,
• 43:24
  maybe get a notary republic involved. And we're looking at rather than calling
• 43:31
  it a food court, I think it's a nice speak easy. It'll be
• 43:36
  a speake easy, more of a speake easy. It'll be located next to
• 43:39
  No No No totally speaks nineteen different sources here to get this approved. The
• 43:46
  reason why it's taken so long is because we did it properly and right.
• 43:51
  We didn't do something and then ask for forgiveness like a lot of people operate.
• 43:55
  We did it. We were proactive and said, hey, here's what
• 43:58
  we want to do. And so all goes well. Our boy Rev cav
• 44:04
  Revkev barbecue would be available. Might have a little sweet treat from a Greenbrier
• 44:09
  dairy, might have a Pepperoni roller two, might have some kerchieveil. Oh,
• 44:15
  okay, we'll get you more details on Thursday's show, but right now
• 44:19
  that we're good to go. Friday Saturday over at the food court, Texter
• 44:23
  says, finally gonna be a good day. Signed by Periopolis. Phil got
• 44:30
  himself a kerchivl there see that hoppies at the ball game or the cool refreshing
• 44:36
  taste of kirchiev. Yeah, Billiver Chestnut brew Works is rolling on that.
• 44:39
  We'll get good quantities heading into the pit game this weekend. New batch coming
• 44:43
  out, New batch coming out? Uh, Texter, I saw Scott road
• 44:50
  truck by the way, did you Friday night? Did not know you had
• 44:52
  your own beer? How is that possible? I don't know. I mean
• 44:58
  I know Scott, I mean I don't know. He's too busy walking up
• 45:00
  and down the law School hill. That's how he trains. He goes up
• 45:04
  and down ten times. He's in pretty good shape. It looks like it's
• 45:08
  like a left tackle to me. It could be a guard. Guard could
• 45:13
  be a guard. Okay, yeah, Texter. If Neil Brown's West Virginia
• 45:16
  football program was a stock or in this case, an ETF, which is
• 45:22
  like a collection of stocks that you bought in twenty nineteen, you would not
• 45:27
  sell. At this point, almost every statistical category is improving year over year
• 45:32
  under Neil a stock, where an ETF is stronger when it climbs like a
• 45:37
  staircase. People want results sooner, but there is no indication the football program
• 45:42
  is declining like people suggest. And here are some examples. So this person
• 45:45
  like went to the nth degree, so check this out. So here we
• 45:50
  go. You can see these go back ten years twenty thirteen through twenty twenty
• 45:53
  two. And obviously the gold's the number of fumbles lost by the Mountaineers,
• 46:02
  so this predates Neil. You can see where they were. You can see
• 46:07
  where they've gone. All right, that's interceptions. You could see where they
• 46:12
  were, and the COVID year only at three, but then twelve twelve to
• 46:16
  let each of the last two years. Next one, please the red zone
• 46:22
  percentage of points versus the red zone points allowed, and you could see that
• 46:30
  that also has drifted. Well, the green is red zone points percentage.
• 46:37
  That means you're scoring more in the red zone, and that means that if
• 46:40
  you take a look at it collectively, you are doing a better job and
• 46:45
  red zone points allowed. Okay, here's this third down conversion percentage in the
• 46:52
  last ten years. You could see that it has gone up here from twenty
• 47:00
  one twenty two, but has not reached the peak of basically where it was.
• 47:06
  The high point was there. It was at twenty seventeen eighteen. Yeah,
• 47:08
  what was going on twenty eighteen? Pretty good skill, Wilburg Greer,
• 47:13
  Yeah, Sills Jennings, Yeah. Oh here, you give me another one
• 47:15
  Luke points per game? All right. You could see where it was,
• 47:22
  and you can see that like a staircase, it is climbing from where it
• 47:25
  was in cheing up next one touchdowns versus total plays, touchdowns versus total plays,
• 47:37
  and you can see that correlated stat So your touchdowns have gone twenty eight
• 47:45
  twenty eight at thirty eight forty four versus your total number of plays. And
• 47:52
  this is your penalty yards per game over the last ten seasons, and you
• 47:57
  could see that that has also significantly improved. So do with them what you
• 48:04
  want. But those are numbers that give a perspective as to where you are.
• 48:09
  Interesting analysis, Tony, you like you fool around in the stock market,
• 48:15
  So what do they say about What do they say about stocks? Don't
• 48:16
  get emotional, right, don't get emotional. Just go with the statistics.
• 48:20
  So this individual has gone with the statistics and made of a compelling argument.
• 48:24
  What do we know about sports? It's emotional and whatever the stats are,
• 48:30
  you still need. You need to win games. You need you need to
• 48:34
  have an emotional response that says I feel good about where things are. So
• 48:39
  while those stats are relevant and important, there's another there's another element that that
• 48:45
  those stats aren't taking into account, and that is how people feel about what
• 48:50
  they see on the field and what the what the end results are. And
• 48:52
  that's why September looms as big as any month in recent Mountaineer football. His
• 49:00
  No Question, Jack from Charleston writes, with our current personnel, we ought
• 49:05
  to go back to the rich Rods spread offense, with our slew of running
• 49:08
  backs and a guy who can run like Green? Why are we trying to
• 49:12
  force what looks like a Dana Holgerson offense. Whiteouts need major help. Would
• 49:19
  like to see more of Rodney Gallagher at this point, not sure when Jack
• 49:23
  Texas sixty percent run last night, even in a game when you were trying
• 49:27
  to work on getting the ball down the field, which was some of that
• 49:29
  last night. So they've been they've been run heavy so far this year.
• 49:32
  Guys, I've bitten my tongue for a long time once they let Carry Martin
• 49:37
  run off. Vick cohening. Our defense hasn't been good. Afraid to coach
• 49:43
  them hard, question Mark. I'm not a Jordan Leslie fan, Texter.
• 49:51
  I don't know about that. I mean, last year the defense struggled,
• 49:53
  but before that the defense was was really good strength of the team. I'm
• 49:58
  sure that's accurate. I would tend to agree with you. Last year,
• 50:01
  no question, no arguments. They weren't good, but before that good enough
• 50:07
  to win games. Also, just you know, Brad, you were talking
• 50:09
  about this last night. I mean, I don't know how many times we
• 50:12
  can say this, but I mean the loss of talent, the people who
• 50:15
  left the program, and that's that's part of the overall status of the program.
• 50:22
  But I mean, man, it lost a lot of talent the transfers.
• 50:27
  Yeah, retention. Retention is part of the game in today's college football
• 50:30
  world, and that's really hard. Guys leave for all kinds of different reasons.
• 50:35
  Some that you would just shake your head at and say what they made
• 50:37
  the decision based on that. Others are doing it for money. So this
• 50:40
  is a lot of things guys. This you start to look across that defense
• 50:44
  in particular, and we've said this before, it's a defense it's been decimated
• 50:50
  by guys that have left that. That line right now should have a key
• 50:52
  Mesador, Jordan Jefferson and Sean Martin all along the front. How'd you feel
• 50:55
  about that? Your defensive backs Tykeey Smith Honorable Mentioned or Freshman All American should
• 51:00
  be in that defensive backfield, to say nothing of Daryl Porter Jr. You
• 51:04
  talk about dray Shawn Miller in the defensive backfield, Jackie Matthews. A lot
• 51:07
  of those guys didn't play as significantly as they would have played here. That's
• 51:10
  just the defensive side. Receiver wise, we keep saying who's the number two
• 51:15
  receiver? Kayden Pray the left, Winston right goes to Florida State Honorable Mention
• 51:20
  All Big twelve. He was catching passes and returning kicks. He went to
• 51:22
  Florid State played five plays the other night. So you just look at those
• 51:27
  names I just gave you. How different does that look? So this program
• 51:30
  has gotten the talent here retention and again some of that some of that falls
• 51:36
  on the coaches, I totally get that, but some of it doesn't,
• 51:38
  right, Some of that falls on if the Country Roads Trust, quite frankly,
• 51:43
  is going to be the entity that's charged with bringing money in that goes
• 51:45
  to athletes. And we're in a world where the paying of the athletes matters.
• 51:50
  You can say all you want, pay for play doesn't existence, and
• 51:52
  it does. And if that's part of it, then that's going to be
• 51:54
  an area that moving forward, I think you need to see, all right,
• 51:58
  what's the trust have available to it? Should it be providing more funds
• 52:01
  to help keep players? So retention anymore isn't just about program. It's about
• 52:06
  other forces and paying them as one of them. Yeah, it is.
• 52:09
  And one of the difficulties I think for fans or for sports writers covering the
• 52:15
  team bread is that when it was just about recruiting, then you could keep
• 52:21
  track of that. You could keep track of that, who were they on,
• 52:24
  what school was this individual interested in? And it was a lot of
• 52:29
  it was known. But now with paying players within I l you don't have
• 52:35
  no idea. You have no you have no idea how much money is available,
• 52:38
  how much they can pay people, how much they don't pay people,
• 52:42
  And that creates that is an unknown, that creates anxiety, like why is
• 52:45
  this person leaving well? And the answer could be very simple. This school
• 52:49
  was going to pay me eighte hundred thousand dollars. We couldn't afford to pay
• 52:51
  eight hundred thousand dollars. But you don't know that. You know that,
• 52:53
  we don't. We don't know that. And maybe at some point that becomes
• 52:57
  public information once it comes back inside the school. I think that becomes information
• 53:00
  you'll see. I certainly hope Neil Brown knows that. I certainly hope he's
• 53:05
  got a line of communication. And if he says I need three hundred thousand
• 53:07
  dollars for this player, that better be made available. That's what schools are
• 53:10
  doing all across the country. They're working with those trusts. If that's the
• 53:15
  way you've got to go through it now, and I've said many times it's
• 53:17
  a really bizarre relationship across the country. It's a model that doesn't seem sustainable.
• 53:22
  But if that's what it's going to be, then the football office better
• 53:25
  be able to pick up the phone and call the entity and say I need
• 53:30
  this, I need this, I need this. The challenge is and you've
• 53:32
  seen this happen in basketball, and credit Bob Huggins for that, for the
• 53:36
  personal efforts he made to go out and get dollars to bring players in.
• 53:38
  There's a reason that basketball roster looks like it does. Football is a lot
• 53:43
  harder. I get it, because you can't just go get two guys and
• 53:45
  say, hey, we had a great recruiting class. You need volume as
• 53:47
  well. But that's part of this. This isn't just simply let's go to
• 53:52
  the recruiting rankings and see where it ranks. There's another entity that's having to
• 53:55
  work in lockstep with your sports programs to get and retying players. And that
• 54:00
  as you look at the Neil Brown airand totality, that's what you see.
• 54:05
  You see guys and talent. They have done a good job identifying talent and
• 54:08
  getting them here. The next evolution is find ways to keep them and they're
• 54:14
  working on that internally. The next part, you better freaking have the dollars
• 54:17
  to retain these great players, or it doesn't matter if it's Neil Brown,
• 54:22
  if it's Rich Rodriguez, if it's Vince Lombardi, you better have the ability
• 54:25
  to retain your guys. And some of that is just quite frankly dollars,
• 54:29
  Harry. But if you're exactly right now, if you're let's say that you
• 54:31
  fire Neil Brown, you're hiring another coach, and you're interviewing the coach and
• 54:35
  the agent, what are they going to ask? Well, the agent comes
• 54:37
  in and question number one is says, let me see what's available in your
• 54:39
  collective. I need to know what my budget, what my salary cap is
• 54:44
  to go get players, and it better be a significant number. So that's
• 54:45
  what I'm saying it. Take Neil Brown out of the equation, it doesn't
• 54:50
  matter, take Josh Eilert out of the basketball equation, it doesn't matter.
• 54:52
  The names in charge of those programs, whoever is in those seats needs to
• 54:57
  know what is available. That has to be an easy conversation at the ready,
• 55:00
  and it has to be significant dollars if you want to play in this
• 55:04
  world until those rules are changed, if it is going to be paid for
• 55:07
  play, which it clearly is you better have the dollars and is it going
• 55:10
  to be And it's going to be a major determining factor if you're trying to
• 55:14
  recruit a particular coach and the coach books at the numbers and goes yeah,
• 55:21
  yeah. So that's that's just a factor moving forward. And again I don't
• 55:24
  know those numbers. I haven't seen those numbers. To my knowledge, those
• 55:27
  numbers aren't public, they won't be made public. But that's a factor in
• 55:30
  this. It just simply is. There's a frightening story that came out last
• 55:35
  week by Ross Dellinger Sports Illustrated dot com, SI dot com about SMU and
• 55:42
  what were the workings behind the scenes to get them into the ACC And when
• 55:47
  you read it, your mouth might go a gape because they're just at a
• 55:52
  different level. Let's face, SMU has always been at a different level.
• 55:55
  They were the program that was given the death penalty, which literally set them
• 55:59
  back thirty years. Well, when it comes to dollars, and we're sitting
• 56:02
  here talking about hundreds of thousands and millions, they have a group of billionaires,
• 56:09
  billionaires that just said this is what we're going to do. I mean,
• 56:14
  they make it frightening for the capability that they have. Frightening they do.
• 56:22
  And we're talking about that last night, and Brad was relating that story.
• 56:24
  I mean, the reality is West Virginia and I don't know how many
• 56:30
  alums from West Virginia are billionaires. You can probably count them on one hand.
• 56:34
  Probably probably count them on one hand. West Virginia is a small state.
• 56:37
  The budget and out of the budget for the state money doesn't go in
• 56:40
  the athletic department. But just give you context, the budget for the entire
• 56:44
  state of West Virginia's about four point seven billion dollars. Brad, how much
• 56:46
  money do the SMU alums have. Well, the story that Ross wrote referred
• 56:52
  to the group they got together. They had eleven billionaires in the room that
• 56:55
  we're all invested in putting money towards them getting into a power five. Yeah,
• 57:00
  so, so one hundred million dollars in West Virginia. Well, I'm
• 57:04
  sorry, real quick. The quote from their Board of trustees member, who
• 57:06
  manages a private equity fund with thirty seven billion under management, when they presented
• 57:12
  to the acc Commister Jim Phillips reportedly said back to them that that's great that
• 57:15
  you're going to forego those media dollars. That's that's tremendous. That makes a
• 57:20
  lot of sense. That's a compelling case on your behalf for us to go
• 57:22
  to the rest of the members of our league. But how will you compete?
• 57:28
  How will you compete with your money? If you're passing on two hundred
• 57:30
  or three hundred million dollars, how are you going to compete? And the
• 57:34
  gentleman said hoppy He said, reportedly, quote, well, it's just a
• 57:37
  couple hundred million dollars. I'm not worried about that. Been going money and
• 57:44
  having more money. So anyway that we know, that's the game. We've
• 57:47
  discussed, that's the game. Everybody gets. That's the game. Quite frankly,
• 57:51
  that's why Jesse Edwards is here. Jesse Edwards looked at West Virginia,
• 57:54
  Gonzaga and Kansas. Where did he go, Tony, West Virginia. How
• 57:59
  many years have you beating out Kansas and gonzagafer recruit haven't done that? Okay,
• 58:02
  now you did, Yeah, dollars, you got to have the dollars
• 58:06
  too. But but but but that's basketball where you can make an investment one
• 58:09
  or two and football is just but you gotta pay it out and Listen,
• 58:14
  that's not the only factor. No, there's a million of the things that
• 58:17
  go into this. But point the overall point there is this staff has gotten
• 58:22
  guys here. Now you have to go to the next step of making sure
• 58:27
  those guys that are that are really talented and can help you stay. And
• 58:30
  that's a two pronged approach. It's the dollars that are coming in that you're
• 58:34
  willing to get them, and it's what the staff would normally do and it
• 58:37
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• 59:21
  is it just me? Or does Garrett Greene seem to run the ball best
• 59:23
  when it happens organically versus a predetermined run or in his RPO decision? It
• 59:30
  feels like he's a more decisive runner in situations where he's flushed out and steps
• 59:34
  up and runs. Love the show, Greg and Pittsburgh. I think there's
• 59:37
  a little bit to that. Think it's a little bit to that because obviously
• 59:40
  when he just takes off, the defense doesn't look at it as a designed
• 59:46
  running play, right, So if they're looking at a formation, they say,
• 59:50
  okay, they'll run the RPO out of this. We've got to watch
• 59:52
  the quarterback. But when it is just he leaves the pocket and goes,
• 59:59
  then it's it's on. So yeah, he probably does look more in control
• 1:00:07
  when that happens. You know what he gives you two? He gives you
• 1:00:08
  north south. Oh yeah, I got great speed, great space. Statistically,
• 1:00:13
  it's about even. He's averaging about ten yards to carry either way.
• 1:00:15
  Designed or otherwise, Texter, what is the criteria to be an iron mountaineer?
• 1:00:23
  M So those are honors that are given each spring to mountaineer players based
• 1:00:29
  upon their condition. Let me think what it is. Let me see the
• 1:00:32
  best way I could say what it is. I think the winners are the
• 1:00:37
  best in the testing at the conclusion of winter conditioning measuring the broad jump,
• 1:00:40
  vertical jump, bench squad power, clean left two, twenty five bench,
• 1:00:45
  forty yard sprint, pro shuttle, three cone sixty yards shuttle, and the
• 1:00:47
  ten and twenty yards sprint. The winners are selected from three different groups top
• 1:00:52
  performers in each category selected by their teammates. Off the top of my head,
• 1:00:55
  I think that's why it is. You know, I'm glad you had
• 1:00:58
  that memorize. Well done, Thank you, Texter. The distinctive award,
• 1:01:05
  by the way, as a six point two pound Cole's statue made entirely of
• 1:01:07
  native West Virginia natural resources, coal wood, and of course natural wood stain.
• 1:01:14
  There you go, Texter. Postgame text from t dub in Barbersville.
• 1:01:23
  First, we got to catch the ball. Both sides, defensive front and
• 1:01:29
  backers were beasts. All game leadership and passion of starting quarterback is what West
• 1:01:34
  Virginia has lacked for years. Nico can do it all. Play calling was
• 1:01:38
  good, keep feeding Cole Taylor. Lots of Brad's preseason over unders broke tonight.
• 1:01:46
  I think Brad set the over under at four and a half players with
• 1:01:51
  rushing touchdowns this season, and as of right now, we have five c
• 1:01:55
  J. Donaldson, Garrett Greene, Jalen Anderson, Nico, Mark Fuel and
• 1:02:00
  DJ Oliver and I'm missing anyone. Yeah, they're six. Texter goes on
• 1:02:05
  to finish this text by saying, pretty sure Scopes hammered the over. Good
• 1:02:09
  number by Brad, though the number won't change much the rest of this year.
• 1:02:15
  Maybe Gallagher, Yeah, yeah, maybe a receiver. But the interesting
• 1:02:21
  one there is the DJ. Right, that's the one that takes it from
• 1:02:23
  we. As we talked when that number came out, it was a really
• 1:02:25
  it seemed a really low number, and the over was the obvious choice,
• 1:02:30
  but the high end beyond that wasn't very high. The average has been five
• 1:02:32
  and a half over the last decade or so, so it's right above that.
• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:43
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  that'd be an awesome anniversary gift. You guys are awesome. Thanks for all
• 1:03:14
  you're doing. What you're doing, what you're doing, what you're doing.
• 1:03:15
  So on behalf of three guys before the game on this Sunday morning. We
• 1:03:21
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• 1:03:53
  listening. Texter guys, the good a hundred more rushing yards than your opponent.
• 1:04:01
  Is always a good stat I don't care who you're playing, and Hudson
• 1:04:04
  Clement was a stud great tune up before the official start of the season.
• 1:04:10
  The bad, the booth reviews, They're absurd. They happen too often,
• 1:04:14
  They disrupt flow of game, They drag out the game way too long.
• 1:04:16
  Why can't each team get one challenge per half and if it goes against you,
• 1:04:20
  you lose a time out and then everything can be booth reviewed in the
• 1:04:23
  last two minutes. I like that how they looked at that Jaheim White run
• 1:04:28
  and said it was not a touchdown. I mean, Western is still scored,
• 1:04:30
  but come on, text her. Oh so he did a good bad
• 1:04:36
  and the ugly here's his ugly. ESPN plus is hot garbage. My complaints
• 1:04:43
  are too many for textual healing. But I swear they must have interns producing
• 1:04:47
  the telecast. I don't understand how a multibillion dollar company does many things so
• 1:04:53
  well produces such a terrible product. I'm looking forward to being in Morgantown next
• 1:04:57
  week. Let's go Matt and Tulsa, Oklahoma. I think that I think
• 1:05:00
  that teas up Brad for a response. No, he gets Tony ever worked
• 1:05:11
  last night it was on I could get it on what's this? What happens?
• 1:05:15
  Well, but every week that West Virginia's on the ESPN, we have
• 1:05:17
  four televisions in our studio. Brad starts about Wednesday getting tight when we can
• 1:05:24
  get the game, and then it's like when it's time for the game,
• 1:05:29
  he gets real tight. As okay, boys, this is this is a
• 1:05:31
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• 1:05:35
  the thing. Got in there at eight thirty watch Radford volleyball. Followed by
• 1:05:43
  holy Cross. You did have that up there? I was like, what
• 1:05:47
  do we have volleyball? And it's like don't don't touch it, followed by
• 1:05:49
  Rawlins, followed by Rollins College in Florida volleyball. Don't even look at it,
• 1:05:54
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• 1:05:57
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• 1:06:49
  encourages more in game texting, and those people are often irrational and emotional.
• 1:06:55
  Trust me, I would know as someone that sent an embarrassing text during the
• 1:06:58
  Baylor game and twenty one with that set. I fought the urge descended text
• 1:07:02
  during the rain delay last night. I'm glad that I did. The Mountaineers
• 1:07:06
  took care of business after the delay. As for the pre delay play,
• 1:07:11
  I'm not going to over analyze the Duke's hanging around for twenty two to twenty
• 1:07:15
  three minutes. There have been numerous games this year where FCS teams have hung
• 1:07:17
  up and around top fifteen teams for a quarter or two. My only concern
• 1:07:23
  is that the secondary might not be very good. Texter Good Sunday Morning.
• 1:07:29
  Three guys, what an experience. You three are absolute pros and having to
• 1:07:32
  deal with a fan base that largely only has negative things to say and that
• 1:07:36
  honestly couldn't manage a Dollar General with all due respected Dollar General. One big
• 1:07:42
  thing people have opined on is that Neil only works with his buddies. But
• 1:07:45
  honestly, I like that a guy is going to fail or succeed with his
• 1:07:48
  guys. It's a quality that we don't see in almost any aspect of life
• 1:07:54
  anymore. Sorry Tony for the long text. I thought this was a Steam
• 1:07:58
  release for a second signed by Evan in Saint Albans. You know, we
• 1:08:02
  were talking about this yesterday, Brad and I were in that is and this
• 1:08:05
  is not to let any coach off the hook, but there is a direct
• 1:08:10
  correlation causation, if you will, of coaches being great coaches having great players.
• 1:08:17
  Yesterday we're watching the Baylor game, oh boy, and Baylor not doing
• 1:08:23
  so well this morning, Tonys. If he might not have seen they lost
• 1:08:26
  against you, they dropped their first two outings. Yeah, and you know,
• 1:08:29
  David Randa is generally thought to be a very a very good coach.
• 1:08:34
  And Baylor has the ball. The game is time, Baylor has the ball
• 1:08:38
  deepen room in territory. Time is winding down and sixteen, third and sixteen,
• 1:08:43
  and the quarterback throws an interception inexplicably right this, threw it over the
• 1:08:47
  middle, threw it right to the other guy, you know which Brad.
• 1:08:50
  As you talked about, David Randa didn't coach that guy to throw that pass,
• 1:08:55
  but he did, and Baylor ended up losing the game. So again,
• 1:08:58
  not to let coaches off the hook, but there it's not just always
• 1:09:00
  coaching, it's what players do when they're on the field. So imagine Dave
• 1:09:09
  a random but people are probably on his ass this morning, probably took his
• 1:09:14
  Coach of the Air trophy back. They have to give that back. Yes,
• 1:09:16
  no, keep that you do, you keep it Texter Roland too.
• 1:09:25
  We don't see him to the last game of the year. A bit long
• 1:09:28
  time before we see that. Texter. Greetings, gentlemen. After watching the
• 1:09:31
  game against Duke and I am thoroughly convinced we are in trouble on defense.
• 1:09:36
  We had several deep passes get past our deepest defensive back, and one interception
• 1:09:42
  was thanks to a lame duck that allowed the defensive back to get back in
• 1:09:45
  time for the catch. We cannot continue playing ten yards off of everyone and
• 1:09:49
  letting them get open for the rest of the season. The coaching staff has
• 1:09:54
  to change something to get themselves and give themselves a shot at not getting fired
• 1:09:58
  mid season. That said, it's game week for pit, so eat blank
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  pit first time text or I love the show, Matt from Charlotte, North
• 1:10:05
  Carolina. Well again to quote quote Neil Brown, gotta be better. Guys
• 1:10:11
  are gonna have to guard. They're they're just gonna have They're gonna have to
• 1:10:14
  guard, and if they can't, then that's going to be a problem.
• 1:10:16
  Yeah. And you saw a player earlier, earlier that just got your head
• 1:10:20
  in the wrong place. You were looking in at the ball, you lost
• 1:10:23
  total track or where the receiver is and he got by you. That just
• 1:10:26
  that stuff can't happen again. You're not You're not coached to stare at the
• 1:10:29
  quarterback the whole time. There. You gotta run with your guy. You
• 1:10:30
  can't lose track of your guy. So that's yes, defensive backs have to
• 1:10:34
  get better. That's that's the clear you know, there's munch possis. You're
• 1:10:39
  the one thing you're still most concerned about. I think through two games,
• 1:10:42
  and Neil Neil Brown expressed the defensive backs are the are the clear concern through
• 1:10:46
  two games. Yes, Texter holy Clement never heard of him, but I
• 1:10:53
  think we'll keep him. Brad, what's his yards per route? When we
• 1:10:56
  just said there seven? Right? Thank you for asking anyway, glad to
• 1:11:00
  he was offered a scholarship. Glad we came out of the delay on a
• 1:11:01
  mission. Let's go Mountaineer son by Justin and Parsons. Thank you. Just
• 1:11:05
  text hello TC bradon hop Matt from Morgantown here. I wanted to share a
• 1:11:10
  picture of myself and my family at my daughter's first Mountaineer game. Good one,
• 1:11:15
  there you go. The first picture is a good one of the family,
• 1:11:16
  and the second one is after my son broke the news that Pitt was
• 1:11:21
  coming to town this weekend. So you see the little one, little one
• 1:11:24
  there on the left her the Pitt was coming to town. He's like,
• 1:11:28
  what are you doing? Yeah? And are you crying? And the young
• 1:11:30
  man he got he's using full effect of that brim on that hat, isn't
• 1:11:34
  he? I mean he's getting no so that is awesome. She's gonna love
• 1:11:39
  that out her wedding. And when you bring that one out down, yeah,
• 1:11:45
  so off we went. That's before the rain. Obviously, let's take
• 1:11:49
  it. Actually that that lovely child on the left would be if West Virginia
• 1:11:54
  lost next week, yeah, or lost yesterday against Duke Kane, that would
• 1:11:58
  be the same response. What do you say we do a little perusal of
• 1:12:02
  the fourteen team Big twelve conference and the results from the weekend. Sure,
• 1:12:08
  the Texas Longhorns an outgoing member, obviously with a big, huge victory when
• 1:12:14
  yours three hundred forty nine passing yards and three touchdowns. Tony quit watched that
• 1:12:18
  second half of that game, Quinn, youwers looked really good. Alabama didn't
• 1:12:23
  look offensively, didn't look like Alabama normally looks. But that that looks like
• 1:12:27
  a pretty good Texas team. Brad is Texas back. There will be four
• 1:12:31
  billion at Texas's back mentions this week. Thank you over under Texas silver wins
• 1:12:38
  it you guys mentioned the Baylor result Utah and a Big twelve and then their
• 1:12:43
  boys, that's an early League game, isn't it Utah Baylor playing so early,
• 1:12:45
  Well, it's like Texas and Alabama squaring off early league game, the
• 1:12:48
  early SEC game, early Big twelve games. So Oregon that hold on real,
• 1:12:53
  real quick on the on that Baylor loss again, guys, that's that's
• 1:12:56
  a gut punch, horrific throw up loss. They give up two touchdowns in
• 1:13:00
  the final four minutes there to lose that game, including that inexplicable pass turnover.
• 1:13:03
  That's that's a bad one. They can't be happy in Waco with the
• 1:13:06
  way that has gone, the loss to Texas State and their coach's first game
• 1:13:11
  as a head coach, and then to turn around have Utah come in on
• 1:13:14
  the road, you get him at home in four hundred degree heat, and
• 1:13:16
  you just give the game away at the end. They've got to be beside
• 1:13:18
  them. Utall had had a bunch of yards in the fourth quarterbay Or had
• 1:13:24
  zilch yards in the fourth quarter. Yeah, now, Blake shape and their
• 1:13:26
  starter was out. We referenced back at quarterback was in. But man,
• 1:13:29
  that's a bad loss. Speaking that lost to a good team, let me
• 1:13:31
  rephrase Utah was very good. That's a very good team. They lost coach,
• 1:13:34
  that's a bad loss because you had to win Tony. There was interesting
• 1:13:38
  play in that because Utah was driving to score as tim was winding down and
• 1:13:43
  they were inside the five, and Baylor wanted to let them score, you
• 1:13:46
  know, to because they feared they were going to score and have some time
• 1:13:49
  remaining. So the running back for Utah goes to the line and everybody kind
• 1:13:53
  of goes in slow motion, and the Utah running back started running parallel to
• 1:13:57
  the goal line until he finally went in just to burn a few sears.
• 1:14:01
  Can you hold up your hanky that's on your lap spinning around? That's hey,
• 1:14:08
  Brad, how about that one there? That's good Hoppy. Later today
• 1:14:12
  we'll be taking the SnO railroad over to Cumberland with this train hanky. Yeah,
• 1:14:17
  you got hank haring around a hanky there also, we've talked about it,
• 1:14:21
  but you use it. You use a cloth hanky all the time.
• 1:14:25
  Yeah. I never knew that. Okay, I look, I went to
• 1:14:30
  Africa and I bought two of these. Oh you bought that an athlete?
• 1:14:34
  No, No, I didn't buy hi an Africa bought them before I went
• 1:14:36
  because I thought, you know, I'm tied around my neck, you know,
• 1:14:40
  to keep bugs off and wipe my face and whatever. And then this
• 1:14:43
  morning, before I came in here, I noticed this was the only clean
• 1:14:45
  handkerchief I had. Is this true? That handkerchief? Is this? Is
• 1:14:50
  this true that? Actually? I'll hold on one second, just to sometimes
• 1:14:54
  we do programming and production notes on air for the production team, Please get
• 1:14:59
  a three guys hanky up at episode eight dot com hoppy hanky, a hoppy
• 1:15:04
  hanky. So let me is this true? Hoppy? This is West Virginia
• 1:15:08
  here. Is it true that what you just did by placing that on the
• 1:15:13
  back of your neck that has Now the term redneck was developed, and it
• 1:15:18
  was a It showed who was a union and who was a non union cold
• 1:15:23
  I believe I've heard that story. Yeah, that's that's how the term came
• 1:15:28
  about. Look, I always thought it was like somebody that it was a
• 1:15:31
  generalization about people from the South who had who worked outside and had son on
• 1:15:35
  their neck. So their next with it. But I don't know. Someone
• 1:15:38
  told me it was it was something to do with that anyway. Yeah,
• 1:15:41
  you don't have You don't see hankies a lot anymore. No, No,
• 1:15:45
  unless you're eighty eight yeah, that and sometimes we've talked about this on the
• 1:15:47
  show. I would assume he's got one of those rubber coin. Oh he
• 1:15:50
  does, keeps all this change in there. We kind of pushed the edges
• 1:15:54
  and it puckers and then you can drop your pennies in there. Yeah yeah,
• 1:15:57
  and then you have to ask the clerk, how was it? Sixteen?
• 1:16:00
  Yeah? Sixteen? Hold on, hold on, I got the sixteen
• 1:16:03
  for you right here? Is how you do that? You're five? Yeah,
• 1:16:06
  I'll give you sixteen. I give you one of these, one of
• 1:16:10
  these and then slide it here you go from a pin person? Is that
• 1:16:13
  what that would be called? There? Right? It's you know what I'm
• 1:16:15
  talking about, right, big the slit down the middle. Besides, certainly
• 1:16:19
  it's certainly warm in here. I believe I'm getting faint. Speaking of bad
• 1:16:28
  endings to games, how about Oregon scoring twenty in the fourth quarter against Texas
• 1:16:32
  Tech Red Raiders a rolling two. They're reeling as well, so you're you're
• 1:16:36
  gonna get a focused I would think Red Raiders team in here. That was
• 1:16:40
  one guys we talked about them. They were picked fourth in the preseason poll,
• 1:16:43
  had a seven and a half over Underwind total, and we talked about
• 1:16:45
  how that group is so bunched up. There's Texas Tech with a lot of
• 1:16:48
  veterans, a lot of starters returning. Tyler Chuck, the starter back playing
• 1:16:53
  against his old team last night in Oregon. To drop that game at home
• 1:16:56
  at night when you thought you had them. They can't be happy in Lubbock
• 1:16:59
  either. Kansas State cruises to a victory over Troy forty two thirteen. The
• 1:17:03
  Oklahoma's beat the SMUs twenty eight to eleven in an odd score. What was
• 1:17:11
  the line on that game? Center a couple of touchdowns Oklahoma. The by
• 1:17:15
  US beat Southern Utah to go to two and oh on the season, forty
• 1:17:18
  one to sixteen. Iowa did not get the twenty five points that they needed,
• 1:17:25
  did not. Oh, they beat Iowa State though, twenty to thirteen.
• 1:17:28
  What do you think is going on in Iowa State? Don't have the
• 1:17:30
  Well, the quarterback is just was just working. I mean, they're just
• 1:17:32
  they're young. Rocco's young at the quarterback position. They lost those guys lot
• 1:17:36
  to the gambling investigation, A starting offensive lineman, what was their starting quarterback?
• 1:17:41
  A running back in that program, So they're they were in a rebuild
• 1:17:45
  anyway. You know, they had ramped up there with that Fiesta Bowl team
• 1:17:47
  and then lost a ton of guys, so they're they're in rebuild mode.
• 1:17:50
  And you know, Iowa State's not one of those programs that can just reload
• 1:17:54
  in one year. It takes them some time. There were a lot of
• 1:17:56
  cutaway shots to one Anthony, Anthony got a ton he and his wife,
• 1:18:00
  Yeah, Clarksburg native, his wife of course d Yeah. Twenty seven twenty
• 1:18:06
  one, Cincinnati goes to Pittsburgh and beats the Panthers. They were up twenty
• 1:18:11
  to seven at one point, that went up twenty seven to seven. Panthers
• 1:18:15
  score fourteen points in the fourth quarter, but Cincinnati wins at twenty seven twenty
• 1:18:19
  one. Just some really super base number. Cincinnati ran the ball for two
• 1:18:24
  hundred and sixteen yards five yards per carry correct, and pitt ran the ball
• 1:18:29
  for eighty three yards just two point nine yards per carry. Pitts quarterback.
• 1:18:33
  The transfer from Boston College filled Jerkovic through ten of thirty two, so not
• 1:18:41
  a good number, and three touchdown passes however, among his ten completions.
• 1:18:46
  So that sets the table for this week. Can I state the obvious,
• 1:18:53
  which is what I'm pretty good at. You have to get this win.
• 1:18:56
  I know, we'll talk about it later in a week. I mean you,
• 1:18:58
  this, Brad a massive. It's it's about as close to a must
• 1:19:01
  win as you can get in the regular season. Super important. Are there
• 1:19:03
  wins after this on their schedule? Yes? This sets you up and starts
• 1:19:08
  to give you a little momentum going to what's going to be a very competitive
• 1:19:12
  and up and down Big twelve season. Yeah, this is this is massive.
• 1:19:15
  This is massive, and and we're gonna start. If you want an
• 1:19:16
  early matchup, it's it's there. I talked about early in the show.
• 1:19:19
  Tony. You just said your ability to run the ball against a pit defense
• 1:19:23
  that just gave up a bunch of rushing yarts. That's one. Then number
• 1:19:26
  two, can you control their running game. That's what Frank Signetti Junior wants
• 1:19:30
  to do. He wants to utilize them that play action with Phil Djerkovic.
• 1:19:32
  You've got to stop the run and you've got to run stop ma If you've
• 1:19:35
  heard that before, it's base football. Pretty wild score or UCF went up
• 1:19:41
  to Boise and the the Ucfers Golden Knights when eighteen sixteen with four field goals
• 1:19:50
  and one touchdown. Here's one for you. It's a nice win for them.
• 1:19:55
  That's a difficult road trip there. Sure it's a good win for the
• 1:19:57
  hart. Former Mountaineer quarterback JT. Daniels rows throws for four hundred and one
• 1:20:03
  yards, three touchdown passes, and in double overtime, the Rice Owls hang
• 1:20:11
  on to beat Houston forty three forty one. At one time, Rice was
• 1:20:15
  up twenty eight to seven. Houston outscored the Rice's twenty one to nothing in
• 1:20:20
  the fourth quarter, sending the game to overtime. Tony Mathis, former Mountaineer
• 1:20:27
  running back for the Cougars, led them with sixty yards on eight carries.
• 1:20:32
  The bad loss for the coup bad loss. They're not they're not happy.
• 1:20:35
  They're either coming off that underachieving, disappointing season last year when they had all
• 1:20:40
  that skill talent at Houston, just didn't win enough games. Their defense really
• 1:20:43
  struggled last year struggled again. JT. Dan's happy for him to see him
• 1:20:45
  bounce back, continuing to play put up numbers. That's a cross city game
• 1:20:50
  that they do not want to lose. That game they barely Houston barely squeaked
• 1:20:54
  by in their first game. They are off to a really rough start down
• 1:20:57
  there in Houston. Well, they got a dandy coming up next week.
• 1:21:00
  They got the horn Frogs of t c U. Now things get really interesting
• 1:21:05
  because now that Houston's in the Big Twelve, now they're going to start to
• 1:21:09
  play some of the schools that never wanted them in the Big Twelve. And
• 1:21:13
  TCU is one of them. Like TCU, They're they're like no, no,
• 1:21:16
  those are two teams struggling to figure out what they are right. TCU
• 1:21:20
  is a totally different team than what it was last year. It's trying to
• 1:21:23
  get its identity in Houston, obviously, now desperate for a win. Lastly,
• 1:21:27
  TCU wins forty one six over Nichols. And lastly, this was a
• 1:21:30
  hard road trip as well, in a classic Big twelve matchup. This is
• 1:21:34
  the kind of game that is the tradition filled rich history of the Big Twelve
• 1:21:40
  league game between Arizona State and Oklahoma State. And it was a late starter
• 1:21:45
  and the Oklahoma Staters win at twenty seven to fifteen final score. That was
• 1:21:51
  a late start. I think that was nine thirty Central time when that kicked
• 1:21:55
  off. If I'm not mistaken, I tried to stay up for parts of
• 1:21:59
  it. I couldn't. Oklahoma State's weird You talk about that good win for
• 1:22:01
  them, I mean Arizona State's obviously a just mess with what herm Edwards left
• 1:22:06
  that program in total disarray. They self imposed a bowl band this year.
• 1:22:10
  So those those players this year, trying to fight through getting that hammer dropped
• 1:22:14
  on them right before the season open. They're in a really tough spot.
• 1:22:16
  Oklahoma State weirdness though that both of their in each of their first two games,
• 1:22:20
  they've played three quarterbacks in the game, like in close games. It's
• 1:22:25
  I'm not talking blowouts, and they've brought other guys in. They are playing
• 1:22:28
  three quarterbacks in what has been two competitive games for them. You know what
• 1:22:31
  they say, if you have three quarterbacks, you have none, you have
• 1:22:39
  none. So that'll and I think that's where Mike Gundy is. He's training.
• 1:22:42
  He's hoping somebody emerges there and takes the job. One of them is
• 1:22:45
  his son, but they're they're clearly searching for a starter to take over there.
• 1:22:48
  Well, despite all that, they still got the W. So that's
• 1:22:50
  good because that's a little bit of a shot out there. Not quite as
• 1:22:54
  far as a shot. It's gonna be when you go from Bridgeport into Phoenix
• 1:22:59
  for your league, for your league match up, but nevertheless, it's a
• 1:23:01
  shot. Okay. So also, I'm just thrilled for Oklahoma State because if
• 1:23:06
  they had checked the Big twelve graphic that came out this week, the game
• 1:23:09
  time did say nine thirty on Central Time there. So I'm just proud they
• 1:23:13
  got to the stadium in good shape, they knew what time it was ahead,
• 1:23:15
  their clocks adjusted. So stupid, so stupid, because that's you know,
• 1:23:20
  Big twelve graphic had Western and kicking off yesterday at five pm. No,
• 1:23:24
  if you didn't, yeah, if you just read their graphic. Now,
• 1:23:27
  they do have a nice little asterick at the bottom and it says all
• 1:23:29
  time Central time. For you, tell you what they can do with that
• 1:23:32
  asterick. Two teams from the Eastern time zone playing a game in the Eastern
• 1:23:38
  time zone and they send the official graphic out that says Central time as the
• 1:23:42
  list. It's maddening. It's it is maddening. I just hope one of
• 1:23:47
  these days, it's one of these days, you know, commissioner comes in
• 1:23:53
  to watch a game and they're like, maybe bring him into the booth.
• 1:23:55
  Hey, Brett's here. Hey Commissioner, how you doing. How I swear
• 1:23:57
  to God, Swear to God before I say hello, I'm gonna say we
• 1:24:00
  got a problem needs to be fixed. I'll Commissioner, nice to meet you.
• 1:24:03
  I've met him. I've met him. I've never brought it up yet.
• 1:24:06
  Should have, it's niece, because guy, I think what you could
• 1:24:11
  say is Tony is good to see you. Actually, we had the interview
• 1:24:15
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• 1:24:19
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  We're back Thursday. We'll preview the Mountaineers and the Panthers in the backyard
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  brawl. And I don't think you overstated the significance of the game. Fun
• 1:25:42
  week coming here, huge week. This is what it's all about, man.
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  This is college football. Yes, have great fun, all right,
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  emotions, yes, rivalries all right? Special thanks to Lucky Luke Rousy.
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  How about him this weekend? Oh yeah, he's a player. Hit every
• 1:25:56
  single one of his wagers. He's now this umbly he's thirty two and oh
• 1:26:01
  on the season, which spread better. This is a better. Oh,
• 1:26:08
  he'll lay fifty cents down quicker than you can say hoppy. I like the
• 1:26:13
  way he bets. He's a fifty cent dollars guy. It's just kind of
• 1:26:15
  like penny poker, that kind of stuff. Yesterday brand uh treaded water on
• 1:26:20
  wins and losses. But I had a couple of my bigger wagers came through
• 1:26:24
  us. I was good, Okay, all right, we'll be done.
• 1:26:28
  Thanks so much for being with us. Episode eight. Dot com. Hey
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  and visit us if you're coming to the game at the food court. The
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  food court next to day. We talk more about that on Thursday. Yes
• 1:26:35
  we will. We'll be gone. See tined effort