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Yoreh De’ah 217:5-12 (216:12). Vows: Based On Commonly Used Expressions · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  Hey, good morning. We are continuing ratio at Zion.
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  We're going to continue today with Saif Valve.
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  Again it's all about Lush and Binet.
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  Adam, it's the same you sewed over and over again.
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  Hey and I do when we get to TET remind me we will point out or
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  clarify where I stumbled with you say zaytim or anavim or
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  pairot stum without using the word ZE versus using the word
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  ZE. So we will see it again in TET.
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  Hey hanodar mihayerek person makes another right in the
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  proper lashon 2 makes another from the word uses the word
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  mehayerek. We would yirak.
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  Yeah, we normally translate that as vegetable.
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  I understand you would translate that as greens, Correct.
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  OK, whatever it is, and it's all lush and banayadam and let's
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  keep reading. Asur afilubi yavish.
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  So the point of the halacha is that it doesn't matter if it's
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  moist or fresh or it starts or it's getting dried out, it's
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  still going to be part of the nether Miya harsh E lo Goran
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  because it doesn't have you don't store it in a storehouse.
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  So therefore, as long as it's edible, that's what's called
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  urek umoturbopolium and it's umoturba.
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  And with beans, beans are not part of urek umoturbopolium
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  evasium. Oh, oh, wait a second, because
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  it does not include is dry beans cause Miya harshiyesh lo Goran,
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  the anime crime urek elahalachem.
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  So it depends if you say the word yarek, if one second when
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  it comes to beans, they're normally stored long term.
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  So therefore only if it's if it's if it's only fresh is it a
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  problem by beans. Otherwise that that's considered
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  in yarek vegetable, yeah, obviously here it definitely
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  includes others besides greens. Good.
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  So anyways, but if it's dry so that it's not included if it's
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  dry beans it's not included. It's dry beans are normally
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  category referred to otherwise and they are they have
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  storehouses. OK, fine does not include
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  grains, that's correct valve. I know they're meja yarek.
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  Now if a person uses the word yarek, so then neustopic
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  roushalmi, it's a Suffolk in ushalmi and that's going to
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  remain a Suffolk with us because I'm not familiar with the words
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  imu, asurbi, kulkas or carcas. If I I don't know what the
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  vegetable that is, but the Ushalmi is not sure if yarek is
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  included. Perish arakshu mean loof, then
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  I'm not sure what that is. And in munaq, the Tarmilo aroch,
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  the Yehba gargi reen harbest. So it's something with a lot of,
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  I don't know, kernels or beans attached to it, some kind of a
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  stock that you keep in your long knapsack.
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  I don't know. Tarmilo is a palm.
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  Tarmilo is a palm. Peapod.
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  Peapod. OK, OK, so anyways, it's based
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  on lush and Benet Adam. So OK, we will continue.
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  Zain, I know there may have basar.
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  A person uses the word meet says the words basar.
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  So then it's aser. I don't know what version you
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  have the postgame say some of the older versions had the word
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  mutter and they say it's a Tao. It's so fair.
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  It's supposed to be aser begidium.
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  So if a person says makes another from basar from meat and
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  includes in all the little the veins or whatever ligaments that
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  come along with the meat, now gidim mutterbybasa.
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  But if a person only makes a net there on gidim, so then that
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  would, I believe, include the blood vessels and the ligaments
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  or tendons, whatever's there, but does not include the meat
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  itself. Maqam Shidarkham in Yisla Adam
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  Shaliah khaliqatlal basar a personal no.
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  Again, this is a continuation. A person says the word basa.
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  So the question is, does that include fish?
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  So if you're going to send, you know, someone to go shopping for
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  you to the market and you go to the marketplace, you say go
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  bring me back some basar, some meat.
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  So when he gets there, Omar Lolo Matsati Ella Dagan.
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  So then if if he's going to call you up and say, wait a SEC, I
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  couldn't find any meat. Do you want some fish?
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  So then that'll show that it's under the category of Duggem.
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  In other words, obvious the Duggem's under the category of
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  Busar. In other words, obviously you
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  preferred maybe red meat, but the Duggem is also included.
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  It's maybe not your first choice, but it's still a
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  subcategory because he's he's asking you about it.
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  Now, again, it really does depend on the place and on the
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  and the situation. We'll keep reading then you'll
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  see. But it does depend because you
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  know, sometimes it's someone's shopping for you or you go for
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  dinner and you want to take meat and, and you go there and you,
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  you know, they can call you at home or whatever it is and they
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  can say there's no, there's no meat or the rest whatever.
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  There's nuts. It's too busy.
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  That's you might just choose a whole different food altogether.
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  It's because so it depends just because you threw out the word
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  dug him. You know, if a person wants to
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  meet for dinner and they send you to get meat and then you
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  say, well, there is no meat. So maybe you want pizza, maybe
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  you want fish. So it really does depend on the
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  Mitzius and how it's used. IM Nishbao, another Makum zeme
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  Habasa Nasser off the bus are dug him.
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  OK. So normally speaking, if it's if
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  Daguim's included and you say Bassar, they're asking so then
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  it's included and Daguim will also be ASAR.
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  That's a general test, but like but not 100% Coyote Baze, any
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  similar thing like this, right? If the person, if it's unclear,
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  if it's a little bit ambiguous and people would often ask you.
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  So then generally it would be included, right?
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  To say this is a principle for all foods Bacol Malcolm and then
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  and then, but always in anywhere in general.
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  I know there may have basar a person makes no, no, it's bazaar
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  period. Bacol ma.
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  No, there may have basa any place when a person makes a Ned
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  there on basar the rule is a soar.
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  But again, you'll see there's a caveat to the world.
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  It's what's the general rule a soar be basar O fault
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  Picturebayan Roche raglayan Kano belave.
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  Any time a person makes a nether on the when they say the word
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  basa. So it's included chicken meat or
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  the insides of an animal, the head, the legs, the trachea, the
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  heart, right, the whole the whole animal.
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  Umutar Well, I'll take back the whole animal.
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  But at least the things that we just listed most things Umutar
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  Behagavim. And what about South locusts?
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  So that's going to be mutter because that's people do not
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  call Khagavim basar. OK, we'll get to fish in a
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  moment. So fish we did.
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  The basic rule is you asked the Shalia and what would a Shalia
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  do? But let's keep reading the IM
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  Mariam advarium baechenada shaloh nis kavan ella basar
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  Bahama bilbaht. But you have to use a little
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  common sense and figure out if it was more or less clear that
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  the guy was referring to only red meat.
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  So then all of us are ulbahema bilbaad.
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  Or if he was only referring to red meat and chicken and not
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  anything else, Harizao mutter the Buster dogging.
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  So then a fish is for sure going to be a mutter in that case.
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  But I feel Malcolm, even if is somebody's going to call and ask
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  because we know he meant meat. That's what you wanted one
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  hamburger. So whatever the case is, if it's
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  clear that you wanted red meat or steak, whatever.
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  So the fact that he asks about fish doesn't all of a sudden
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  mean now, therefore it's included.
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  OK, but I feel the Buster. Oh, but not Mishari.
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  And if it was clear that you were only wanted red meat, so
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  even fish wouldn't be included. The Halo and escaping Rock the
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  Butler Buster, because we're talking about a case and it was
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  clear you only wanted red meat or you're you're when you made
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  the net there you're only thinking about red meat.
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  Now the post can quote the OR we're going to see it now and
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  later the post can point out that nowadays whenever a person
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  says basar, they fish is not include included.
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  That's the Shah Lataz Bashem Narachal and I believe that
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  applies nowadays as well. But OK, ask your community when
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  they what they when they say basar, do they include fish?
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  I don't think so. Let's read on.
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  OK Tet, I know there mehakipa muttar barotev meharotev muttar
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  bakipa. So if a person makes a net there
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  and says the words mehakipa from kipa, so then what is kipa?
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  So pikipa is basically when you cook a pot and you have little
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  stuff that sticks to the side of the pot and it's drugs.
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  Drugs. Well, drugs.
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  Does drugs apply it? Drugs is from grapes.
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  It applies here too. Maybe I've seen a translation as
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  strands, but it's a focus. So stuff, yeah, stuff stuck to
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  the side of the pot. So the Ron and the Rambam, but
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  the one of them explains it's referring to little tiny strands
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  of meat. Sit down the Baragola.
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  And the Rambam says it refers to these spices to the sides of the
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  meat, to the sides of the pot. So it's could have a real naf
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  comuno ladina, but whatever it is and get a space on Lush and
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  Banayadam. So let's keep reading.
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  So if you say keep up, it's not going to include the liquid.
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  And if you say the liquid liquid or what's it called?
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  Gravy sauce or that's another word for it, broth or some
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  whatever, one of those words. So then it's not going to
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  include this, whatever you want to call it, the dregs, the
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  strands, Moto bakipa. May I have basar?
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  And if you say the word basar, this basar include these items
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  no mutter bishnayam. So the shokanar baskins it's
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  mutter bishnayam. At least that was in his days.
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  Basar does not. If a person just says meat, they
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  would not include the liquid or the kippah.
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  Loesch almar konam basar ZE ally, unless he uses the word
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  basar ZE, he don't house it. OK, so I have the word Z.
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  No, no, no, the well, no, that's definitely not.
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  It's two separate cases. This is a continuation here.
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  I'm going to mention it. This is a continuation of what
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  we learned in halacha Yudbet, the taz.
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  I think you have the taz though, in your chauhanar and he says
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  it's a oh, that it doesn't have the word ZE and it's supposed to
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  be in there. That's that's Taz says thanks.
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  So anyways, we're going to read it according to the Taz and
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  according to Michel Hanar, where it says konam basar zeh Alli.
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  If you say, if you just say the word basar, so then liquid's not
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  included. But if you say the word basar
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  zeh, this piece of meat, and then you have a Tom of that
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  piece of meat or a mashu of that piece of meat mixed in in the
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  liquid on the side of the pot. So of course it's going to be
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  awesome. Oh, shani tohem or shani ocho.
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  Or if you say it's a separate case or you say konam, we had
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  all this before or we had the person says like a nether
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  lashon, konam basar, shani tohem or shani ocho.
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  Then then you just made a nether on the meat and anything that
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  has a flavor from that meat. So here, yeah, so here thanks to
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  Ramosha last weeks or last year. So I just want to point out that
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  when it comes to if you look back yeah and the Reichstad Zion
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  in your bet. So anytime you say the words Zay
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  team or Anavim or fruit and you just say some and then that item
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  is user but then you turn it in later it becomes a fruit, fruit
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  juice, orange juice, wine or olive oil.
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  Then does it have a different? So then it has a different shame
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  and since it has a different shame even though that actual
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  fruit was user because of your nether, you can make a mutter by
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  squeezing out the juice because the juice doesn't have the same
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  name. So you only user grapes.
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  You didn't answer this item. You said grapes.
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  So as long as it's grapes, it's usser.
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  As soon as it changes to wine, it transforms and becomes
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  mutter. Unless you said the word ZE
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  because then it becomes like a hefts of esser and it's always
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  going to be usser. Thank you.
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  So that's the same concept over here.
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  And the post game do point out Shah and Natas.
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  They quote the Rashal that that says nowadays, so I don't know.
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  But nowadays they say if you say the word basar, they're both
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  asar. Because when you say Anet there
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  I'm not going to eat any meat, you include the the liquid.
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  Or if I say I'm not going to eat any chicken, you're going to
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  include the liquid from chicken soup.
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  I'm not sure if that applies. This was, you know, a few 100
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  years ago. So I don't know.
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  OK, so let's go on. But it goes by Lesch and Binet
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  Adams. So I don't know.
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  We follow the show for now. It's time or the next
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  generation, the time the the Rochelle or a couple generations
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  and the Chac and the Taz. OK, good.
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  I know there Mihagrissi azer bed for how to pronounce this Makpi
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  mikva. I don't know, MIC pen, I think
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  sounds right, whatever. So a person makes a nether not
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  to eat greasing. Greasing are some kind of of the
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  beans, right? Some kind of a beans.
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  There's another name for it. We'll call it beans.
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  I don't know if it's grits beans, we'll call it beans.
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  Person makes a nether from eating beans.
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  Fine AUS serbe MICPE. So therefore perush maraca
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  fueva. Basically it means it's a thick
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  soup. And so therefore if a person
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  makes a nether from greasing, it's usser to have soup shell
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  greasing. If it's, let's say, I don't
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  know, you make a nether not to have peas, so pea soup is also
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  going to be usser for you. But mikpeh is basically
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  something that is mashed and thick or something like that,
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  pureed and thick. OK, Mia mikpeh, if you just say
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  the words Mia mikpeh, it's somewhat to be greasing.
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  If you say pea soup or mikveh, it's not going to include peas
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  or the OR beans. OK, meow mikveh.
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  But if you say just from the word meow mikveh asur be shum,
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  then it includes shum. If you just say the word mikveh,
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  I believe that's the only words you need to say.
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  Then it's you're also going to be asur.
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  If you made another from there, you're going to make and it's
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  also applies to garlic Me Hashim mutter be Mikpe.
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  But if you use say the word just garlic, that doesn't mean that
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  Mikpe that soup all or all soups become user.
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  But if you say Mikpe Stam Why? Because the shark and tars give
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  two different explanations. The shocks is because Mikpe
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  means anything that's very soft, like mashed and pureed and and
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  shum is commonly or normally mashed.
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  People don't usually eat whole pieces of shum.
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  They mash it a little bit and then they eat it.
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  So therefore it's included that's but again, it's all based
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  on lush and Binayadam may not apply.
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  OK and and the taz, if I understand correctly, he says
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  because you're always putting garlic in mitba.
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  So therefore, you know if you say 1, you also mean the other.
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  OK, so anyways, but it depends if people have that in mind.
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  I don't hear people use the word mikpe and I don't think saying
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  the word soup would include shum.
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  So I don't know. OK, let's go on.
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  Meh. Tovling.
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  A person says the words tovling. So then, well, first of all,
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  just point out the Shah says tovling is anything that you put
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  in a cadera in a pot to make it for flavor.
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  That includes garlic. It includes onion and spices,
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  and those are all included in the word toggling.
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  I'm not sure if that applies nowadays.
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  If I say the word spices in English, that doesn't, that
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  would not include garlic and granulated garlic.
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  Can it include granulated garlic maybe?
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  I hear that. I hear that it would not include
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  herbs like the shock does. As far as I understand, that'd
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  be something different. It would not include onions, but
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  like you said, maybe onion powder.
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  OK, maybe I hear that. OK.
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  So anyways, Matt toggling just as a general idea again, we
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  learnt that there's a couple. It's not 100% clear, but it's
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  again goes by lushing Binet. Adam is the main principle.
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  If it's something that's rarely used.
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  So then we generally go by Lasha and Tara, but it's again, it all
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  depends. And then just keep in mind that
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  if it's a Suffolk, we often will say Lahachner because we're
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  dealing with Jenny Duraisa anyways.
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  Maha Taliban asur bahayim only if it's it's asur.
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  If it's fresh, OK, that's a good word.
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  It could be dry but fresh but mutter.
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  But Mahalim. But it's a mutter if you cook
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  these items right, especially if we're talking about non spices
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  anyways. But anyways, if you cook it,
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  it's not included in Tavlin. Tavlin is fresh.
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  The IM Ammar konam Tavlin sheni Tom asur bahaimabushalim.
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  But if you say the words that I'm going to get flavor from it,
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  right, those words. So then it doesn't matter if
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  it's cooked or not, but it's still giving you flavor.
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  May I kruv. If you say the word make a
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  nether, you're not going to have the kruv.
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  So then it's asur again. I have the.
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  I don't know what you have, right?
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  So then you generally read the brackets and you ignore the
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  parentheses. That's a general rule.
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  Taz has this. But anyways, let's keep going.
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  So we'll say it's aser be aspargos.
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  It's aser. They have aspargos.
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  OK, What's aspargos? I don't know, Perush is it?
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  No, can't be an asparagus because a cabbage crew is a
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  cabbage. You know, I don't think you'd
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  mess up the mix up the two rash perush.
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  The Rambam here. A mime should be Shrubahem
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  Hakroov. Water that you cooks inside with
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  cabbage. That's what a spare asparagus
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  is. Rashi says perush meme kruv.
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  It's a type of cabbage. So you believe a type of cabbage
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  means asparagus? Thank you.
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  Asparagus mutter bakruv. And if you say the word
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  asparagus, that definitely does not mean cabbage.
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  OK, now, Krishin, you say the words now, Krishin smutterbe
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  kaplatos. I'm not sure what that is.
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  OK, Mahayyerik, you say the word mahayyerik mutter be Yerakot
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  Sadeh. So then it's whatever you call
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  Yerakot sadeh is mutter mipeneshuhu shame.
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  Levi. It has or Levi.
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  So therefore it has a, a different name.
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  It's a compound. It's a it's a, a name.
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  Something that always has two names is not the same as having
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  one name. It's it's a different like wild
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  vegetable. Whatever's called the Yerakot
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  Sadeh, I don't know, Dilashi Mariadam, Adam Koran Yerakstam
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  rocked the Yerakota Kadelian bit gone out.
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  Because when people say vegetables, it means what, what
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  they normally refer to as vegetables or what's in gardens,
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  right? Farmers.
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  Maybe he means anything wild, anything that's not norm,
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  Probably anything that's not Normally cults are produced by
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  farmers and sold in the market. Melons, no melons, we call it
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  fruit. No one will call that a yura
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  fields. OK, you're olive.
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  I know there Mehakala, a person says, and that there is not
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  going to have any milk mutter dekum.
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  So it's a mutter for him to drink.
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  Weigh perush maima mudalia mahalo Kashaminimoto and you you
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  leave water out and starts to settle or separate.
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  Then the top becomes clear and that is that's Wei.
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  It's also called yasuva dekalva. OK Nadar mehakum.
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  If a person says another just just uses the word kum Wei.
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  So then it's mutter dekalaf. So you're allowed to have milk.
• 23:00
  OK, That's one does not apply to the other.
• 23:02
  However, viesh omrim dim korim lekum al shamma Khalaf kuma
• 23:07
  dekhalva ASA. So then some say that if it's
• 23:11
  you never used, you don't use the word way.
• 23:13
  You use the word way milk. You always say way milk.
• 23:16
  You always milk way. Whatever it is milk way, you
• 23:19
  always use the they use it together.
• 23:21
  Then if you just say so this is what's the case as you just say,
• 23:26
  cool, you just say hello, I'm the fronium.
• 23:28
  But whatever it is, it might it's then it can also be
• 23:32
  awesome. Maya Khalav, motor Brigina
• 23:34
  person makes another on the word Khalav.
• 23:37
  That's milk. So again, it's going to be motor
• 23:39
  Brigina. Cheese is not milk.
• 23:42
  Okay, I don't think any of us would ever interchange the two.
• 23:46
  It's milk, but it's not milk. Yeah, govina mutter bakhalavan.
• 23:49
  So too, if you say the word cheese, then it's mutter to have
• 23:52
  milk, the asurba. However, if you say govina, it
• 23:56
  does apply to Ben Mehluka, Ben's feiler, Ben Lika, Ben Yavisha.
• 24:00
  It doesn't matter if it's very, if it's salty or unsalted or
• 24:05
  very wet or very dry. Cheese is cheese and it's all
• 24:10
  going to be us only eats Chala Vistrell, but I guess a little
• 24:15
  bit less of an Adam, but I would say not because it's not this
• 24:19
  Venus Aquam is not the same category as Chala Vistrell.
• 24:22
  It's milk. It's 2 but less of an Adam.
• 24:26
  So OK, good question. OK, I don't know your base.
• 24:30
  I know they're I mean a dog him. I know they're a person makes a
• 24:35
  nether not to have any fish, butter Bitsir or Maria show
• 24:39
  Duggan, but so you are allowed to have the Brian the juice or
• 24:42
  whatever it's called.