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Ross Fulton Analysis: How Ohio State's Offense Can Attack Will Muschamp's Texas Defense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: is a little bit of audience service because we did
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  Speaker 1: a show with Ross Fultner, our scheme insider from buckeyeinsiders.com
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  Speaker 1: earlier in the week. We did a bunch on the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State offense, and the people were saying, well, what
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  Speaker 1: do we expect from Texas? What do you think is
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  Speaker 1: going to happen from Texas? So guess what? We're not
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Ohio State defense. We're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: Texas defense on today's show. Ross, this is a new
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  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for Texas this year, Will Muschamp, but it's
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  Speaker 1: someone who Ohio State is pretty familiar. He's off the
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  Speaker 1: Saban tree, so this is not exactly brand new concepts
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that. So it's a new defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: but it seems like they're probably going to see some
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  Speaker 1: stuff they've seen before. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess with the Ohio State defense, I'll let
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  Speaker 2: my colleague Mike Petty handle that one. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: long story very short, Ohio State was pretty vanilla on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday defensively, running mostly cover one man. So they were
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  Speaker 2: obviously Matt Patricia was focused on, you know, keeping that
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  Speaker 2: tape to a minimum for Texas. But yeah, at least
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  Speaker 2: turning to Will Muschamp, at least for me personally, you know,
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  Speaker 2: obviously he had been out of being a coordinator for
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  Speaker 2: a few years and, I was curious whether he was
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  Speaker 2: going to be, you know, he was traditionally known as
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  Speaker 2: a very, uh, cover one man, heavy single high defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: or was he going to be more, uh, like what
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  Speaker 2: he's done recently, which was with Kirby smart and.
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  Speaker 3: Glenn Schumann at Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, week one against Texas state to me,
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  Speaker 2: it definitely was more of the latter. And so, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it looks very much like a smart defense or Kirby smart.
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  Speaker 3: I should say defense, uh, capital.
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  Speaker 2: S, um, You know, you get a lot of the things,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you and I have talked about previously when
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  Speaker 2: we talked about, I say, you know, Georgia or other,
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  Speaker 2: you know, proteges, Oregon as well, which is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the pattern matching concepts, right? So like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of cover three where you're carrying receivers vertically, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you roll one, the safety down, it's called Rip Liz.
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  Speaker 2: And they, you know, so if you run four verticals,
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  Speaker 2: you carry them on all those like cover four. uh,
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  Speaker 2: pattern matching concepts, uh, you know, to get into detail
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  Speaker 2: on all of them, where again, like you're trying to,
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  Speaker 2: the defense is trying to recognize routes, uh, and depending
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  Speaker 2: on the rules, like, you know, you play man, it's
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  Speaker 2: called man match.
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  Speaker 3: They like, you're playing man within that concept, but then
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  Speaker 3: you'll pass them off.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, up front, you see some, saw some
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  Speaker 2: four down on Saturday, saw some penny front, like we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about with Patricia, you know, five, one we've seen, uh,
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  Speaker 2: saw some mint, um, which, uh, again, it's like sort
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  Speaker 2: of a Kirby smart, uh, odd, uh, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you'd say like a three, three, five, but
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  Speaker 2: like one of the, with a standup called a Jack.
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  Speaker 2: And so you can, you know, disguise who's dropping and
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  Speaker 2: it's sort of, again, the concept like with pennies, like
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  Speaker 2: take away those inside sound B gap.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a, I know a mouthful because that's all
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  Speaker 3: to say that.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you're still, you're seeing a lot of like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for week one in particular, uh, a lot on film
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  Speaker 2: and it seems like sort of a, a, a heavy
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  Speaker 2: volume approach to, to defense.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess the benefit of that is you have
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  Speaker 1: all these different concepts where, oh, this is a man beater,
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  Speaker 1: this is a zone beater, this is a cover or
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  Speaker 1: two beater, whatever it is. And if you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what you're getting, that makes it harder to call the
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  Speaker 1: right play that you beat the right coverage. But it
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  Speaker 1: does seem like there are some things that may tend
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  Speaker 1: to work against a lot of the things that he's
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  Speaker 1: looking to run. And you seem like you've pulled out
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  Speaker 1: some clips to identify or to illustrate some of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously Texas had a lot of success on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: but just trying to pick out a few things that
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  Speaker 2: are conceptually within the framework of where teams, including Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State in the Peach Bowl several years ago, but also
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  Speaker 2: more recently against Georgia, have targeted the Kirby Smart defensive scheme,
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  Speaker 2: if you will.
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  Speaker 3: And one thing also with the volume.
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  Speaker 2: That you see, you see it in some of Georgia
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  Speaker 2: and here, and you saw it against when Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: played Oregon, is when you have all these pattern matching concepts,
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  Speaker 2: like what it can lead to bust in the secondary.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Because like you all have to be on the same page.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot there. There's a lot of rules and obvious.
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  Speaker 2: And also the coordinator has to be right. Cause it's like,
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  Speaker 2: you're putting a lot on the coach to call the
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  Speaker 2: right play. And so even on Saturday against Texas state,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you saw a little bit like the, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Texas state through a four by zero, you know, unbalanced
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  Speaker 2: looked like we saw from our state on Saturday and,
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  Speaker 2: and Texas struggled to line up. There were times I
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  Speaker 2: thought that they, you know, sort of struggled to know
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  Speaker 2: how to line up in all these different fronts and coverages.
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  Speaker 2: So that's, that's one thing to look for, especially with
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  Speaker 2: the amount that, you know, the motion and different formations
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  Speaker 2: that Arthur Smith's presenting a defense, even though the place
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  Speaker 2: from the offensive side are the same, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: looking first at the run game, for instance, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one place to generally target Uh, this kind of scheme
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  Speaker 2: is to the weak side, the weak boundary.
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  Speaker 3: That's generally again, like away from the force player.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, this first run, Texas state is
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  Speaker 2: a more spread out offense generally than Ohio state. And so,
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  Speaker 2: you know, take that in mind, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: saw a lot of this open trips look. So you
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  Speaker 2: get three wide receivers to the top in one to
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  Speaker 2: the bottom and against trips, uh, at least on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: my champ like to play a lot of, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the cover seven concept, uh, this one being stump. But
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  Speaker 2: one thing to note about that is the single receiver
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  Speaker 2: to the bottom. Let's imagine that's Jeremiah Smith. As you
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  Speaker 2: see here, like that safety is going to play what's
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  Speaker 2: called a cone coverage over Smith. So you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to leave your backside corner singled up against Jeremiah Smith.
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  Speaker 3: No one would do that.
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  Speaker 2: And so that creates, you know, sort of opportunities because
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  Speaker 2: then you're, you're kind of down for support.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so you've got here, Texas state basically spreads them
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  Speaker 2: out and you do have a four down front. and
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  Speaker 2: they're just going to run weak inside zones, the boundary.
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  Speaker 2: And so I saw this from Ohio state too. And the,
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  Speaker 2: the peach bowl is, you know, targeting running to the
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  Speaker 2: weak side, particularly to the short side of the field. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, again, that was something we talked about for
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  Speaker 2: Ohio state and Arthur Smith on Saturday was much more
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  Speaker 2: so of running to the weak side. And so I
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  Speaker 2: think that's probably something when it comes to the run game,
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  Speaker 2: you'll look for, look for, for Ohio state, but like
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  Speaker 2: with all the odd front, I'd expect quite a bit
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  Speaker 2: of outside zone and duo as well, which we didn't
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  Speaker 2: quite see as much on Saturday, but trying to wash
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  Speaker 2: down those interior defensive linemen.
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  Speaker 1: And then in the pass game, we were talking before
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  Speaker 1: the show, so that's why I can say with authority that, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you can throw to the weak side as well, Ross.
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  Speaker 1: Not many people know that, but I know that. So
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  Speaker 1: you have a play to illustrate that as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Same concept, right?
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, one thing, one thing you'll see here
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  Speaker 2: too is, you know, just looking at Texas versus you
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  Speaker 2: also get, again, as I said, a lot of volume.
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  Speaker 2: So you see some of the three high safety concepts that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we've seen from the Ohio state defense, particularly
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  Speaker 2: with Caleb Daphnis over.
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  Speaker 3: The last few years. Well, you know, the line at three.
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  Speaker 2: High and they'll roll it down to either like a
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  Speaker 2: cover to Tampa or here, like they'll play their cover three.
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  Speaker 2: So like you're playing, you know, that, that rip list
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  Speaker 2: pattern matching cover three concept from depth. And again, so like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the, the concept is you're throwing away from,
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  Speaker 2: if you think about like they, their nickel scheme, right.
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  Speaker 2: You're playing just like Patricia calls it, like the nickels
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  Speaker 2: called the star and he's like sort of up to
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  Speaker 2: the passing strength. And so to the weak side, you're
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  Speaker 2: either playing a safety or a linebacker coverage on the
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  Speaker 2: slot receiver.
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  Speaker 3: And so you're just looking for opportunities there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this one I pulled up is just a
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  Speaker 2: bubble screen where again, you're getting numbers because of the
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  Speaker 2: depth of the safeties, but like you can, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Throw to that weak side flat generally, I think, is
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  Speaker 2: another area that you're going to target.
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  Speaker 3: And so, you know, look for some.
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  Speaker 2: Of the concepts we saw on Saturday from Ohio State, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, smash or other things that target that.
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  Speaker 3: Weak side flat.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the things I'm assuming that Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: is going to try and do is hit some deep
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  Speaker 1: shots on Saturday. I think they know they've got to
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  Speaker 1: try and get get over the top because you need
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  Speaker 1: to sort of keep Texas keep Texas honest. if you
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  Speaker 1: want to open things up potentially in the run game.
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  Speaker 1: And it seems like what watching rewatching that Texas state,
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  Speaker 1: Texas game, that was something that it felt, it felt
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  Speaker 1: like Texas state found some things in the passing game downfield.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't always connect, but they found some things in
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  Speaker 1: that passing game downfield.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think one of Brian day's strengths has
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  Speaker 2: always been targeting cover for safeties downfield in the past game.
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  Speaker 2: And so again, like, you know, when you're thinking of
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  Speaker 2: cover for just like at its most basic, each, the
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  Speaker 2: two corners and the two safeties each have a fourth
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  Speaker 2: of the field. So if you run four guys vertically
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  Speaker 2: down the field, those safeties have are responsible for covering deep.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously, so you can get some advantageous matchups, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is a, this is a good example, right?
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  Speaker 2: Where you're like, you know, they don't, they don't, you
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  Speaker 2: get this switch concept.
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  Speaker 3: So the inside receiver goes out and runs a wheel.
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  Speaker 3: And then you get this post.
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  Speaker 2: Route and you're just forcing guys to cover vertically and
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  Speaker 2: sort of negating the benefit of having a.
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  Speaker 3: Safety over the top.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we also saw like to this point, you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: you see sort of Texas State obviously is spread out defense.
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  Speaker 2: But when you're pulling these safeties deep, it also gives
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  Speaker 2: you opportunities on linebackers underneath. If you can if you
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  Speaker 2: can push off those deep four guys because then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: four deep, you only have three underneath defenders. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we saw like Texas State had a nice halfback arrow
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  Speaker 2: concept that you could see Ohio State running to Bo Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: which they did last Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Or even a legend Bay in that role and trying
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  Speaker 3: to get on linebackers.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, the other thing I want to point out, and
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  Speaker 2: I talked a lot about coverage, but this, this clip
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  Speaker 2: is one of, uh, Texas. When you see from the
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  Speaker 2: behind the camera or behind the line view running the
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  Speaker 2: mid front, like I talked about. So you get that
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  Speaker 2: head up over nose. And in this one, Colin Simmons
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  Speaker 2: is that Jack position to the field. They usually play
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  Speaker 2: that to the boundary, but they sort of, there's a
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  Speaker 2: call that they flip it here. And so they, Colin
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  Speaker 2: Simmons will move around. Like he'll be on both sides.
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  Speaker 2: I also saw them run this where Simmons is the
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  Speaker 2: middle linebacker and Raheem Biles is that Jack linebacker. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: so they'll, they'll switch it up and, you know, much
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  Speaker 2: champ again, like there's lots of volume. Like I saw some,
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  Speaker 2: you know, five man zone blitzes with their, their plan,
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  Speaker 2: like that kind of cover tube.
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  Speaker 3: Palms that Matt Patricia likes to do some sim pressures.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously this look where you only have three down
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  Speaker 2: guys provides the opportunity to bring guys, right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you bring one linebacker and drop the other.
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  Speaker 2: And so again, like we talked about, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be incumbent on how to stay, not just
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  Speaker 2: to know where Simmons is obviously, and like handle like
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  Speaker 2: just a pure speed rush, but also, you know, keep
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  Speaker 2: the eyes up. Like we talked about when you're getting
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  Speaker 2: stunts and different blitz packages. And so you're not getting
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  Speaker 2: locked on down line minutes that can pick up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the linebackers coming.
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  Speaker 1: So we just talked about a cover four beater. Now
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  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up with a cover one beater.
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  Speaker 1: And they have talked a little bit about kind of
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  Speaker 1: quick game stuff and just getting the ball out of
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  Speaker 1: Julian Sands hands. And, you know, you run a little slant.
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  Speaker 1: This is, you know, you don't have to block for
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  Speaker 1: three and a half seconds on this one. So get
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  Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands and you might hit a,
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  Speaker 1: might hit a seam there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And again, so like, as I mentioned, the top,
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  Speaker 2: you know, much St. Champ was traditionally known for playing
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  Speaker 2: a lot of cover one and, at least on Saturday
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  Speaker 2: versus Texas State, the place that I saw it come
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  Speaker 2: out was on these third and medium situations. He seemed
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  Speaker 2: to pretty consistently go to cover one. Again, that's not
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  Speaker 2: to say that that's necessarily what he'll do against Ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: but it did seem to be a tendency. Still have
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  Speaker 2: to come prepared for those cover one, your cover one beaters,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak. Here, again, he particularly likes to run
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  Speaker 2: cover one with a rat or a robber. One deep
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  Speaker 2: safety and then up underneath the fender and get the
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  Speaker 2: slam pass, but it's like different concepts, you know, mesh
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  Speaker 2: shallow cross. I do think this is a situation where, um,
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  Speaker 2: Ohio state is going to want to move Jeremiah Smith around, um,
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  Speaker 2: in particular, play him in the slot. Uh, again, I
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  Speaker 2: think like, whether it's, you know, cover one here, like
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  Speaker 2: you're getting on a nickel cover three, or like the
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  Speaker 2: safety is coming down.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you.
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  Speaker 2: Assume Texas, you can, again, you can use it, to
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  Speaker 2: your advantage is Ohio state where you put him, as
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  Speaker 2: I said, like as a single receiver opposite trips and
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're probably gonna get two defenders over there
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  Speaker 2: and you can take advantage of it to the other side,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously you don't want to have him.
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  Speaker 3: Taken out of the game.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think you want to move him around
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  Speaker 2: and force, you know, much champ to them to check
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  Speaker 2: to brackets, uh, to, you know, change the coverages, but that's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, again, also where I think that changing up again,
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  Speaker 2: tempo huddling, You know, snap count, as I said, like
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  Speaker 2: you saw some issues from Texas last Saturday on getting
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  Speaker 2: lined up with just the amount of volume that they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you can change it up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: hide Smith, move him around, force them to try to
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  Speaker 2: adjust on the fly, I think that would be to
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State's advantage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the last thing I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: ask you was week one, sometimes you're putting stuff, you're
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  Speaker 1: avoiding putting stuff on film so that opponents don't know
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  Speaker 1: what to expect. How often are coaches... putting something on
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  Speaker 1: film week one where you're establishing a tendency where it's
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  Speaker 1: okay third medium we're going to be very predictably in
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  Speaker 1: cover one and then aha i have surprised you and
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  Speaker 1: i have done something completely different this week how often
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  Speaker 1: does that happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah i mean i think it does it certainly happens
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  Speaker 2: like i as i mentioned i think patricia took the
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  Speaker 2: opposite tact and it may just be like i don't
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  Speaker 2: need to show stuff but obviously you have a year
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  Speaker 2: of film on him like Ohio State ran some stunts
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  Speaker 2: and games on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: But otherwise pretty vanilla.
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  Speaker 2: This might be the opposite, where Muschamp's putting so much
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  Speaker 2: out there to force Arthur Smith and Ryan Day to
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  Speaker 2: prepare for a lot, and then maybe pare it back down.
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  Speaker 2: And as you said, definitely try to catch Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: running Mesh or some other kind of man concept on
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  Speaker 2: third down, and it's a zone. And so, as Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Day talked about on Tuesday, Ohio State does They're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to be prepared with some contingency plans, I think.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think you can, if I were them,
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  Speaker 2: I would feel pretty confident that I'm going to get
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  Speaker 2: like some variation of this again, like Kirby smart style
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  Speaker 2: defense for lack of a better term. And so I
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  Speaker 2: think you kind of can go back, if anything, like
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  Speaker 2: go back to, you know, opponents against Georgia, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even last year to look at, you know, what teams
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  Speaker 2: did there, as I said, and like where, what the
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  Speaker 2: tendencies were. Cause I do think Muschamp, the goal seems
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  Speaker 2: to have been to like for Sark and for Muschamp
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  Speaker 2: was like, let's bring the save and smart defense that
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