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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 02-19-26 Hour 1 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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  Speaker 1: Warning, the Root, the Root, the Roots on fire.
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  Speaker 2: This is Wayne Allen Root, direct from the entertainment capital
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  Speaker 2: of the world, Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: What time is it?
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  Speaker 3: It's time war War.
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  Speaker 2: Here's your host, one hundred percent raw truth, one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent American made the Warrior, Wayne Allen Root.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Wayne Alan Rout, The Root is exhausted.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 4: You know you're in trouble when you're exhausted before you've
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  Speaker 4: said one word, before the show even begins.
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  Speaker 1: But it has been a really busy day, an eventful day.
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  Speaker 4: You have no idea the work I do behind the
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  Speaker 4: scenes before a show even begins. By the time it's
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  Speaker 4: three o'clock in the afternoon Vegas time, five o'clock excuse me,
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  Speaker 4: six o'clock East Coast time, I am in a state
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  Speaker 4: of exhaustion.
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  Speaker 1: And today's one of those days.
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  Speaker 4: And when the show is over, the second it's over,
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  Speaker 4: I'm rushing to a galla ball at the Four Seasons
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  Speaker 4: Hotel in Las Vegas for the Vegas Symphony.
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  Speaker 1: So I am my day is just beginning, just beginning.
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  Speaker 4: So if you tuned in yesterday and you heard my commentary,
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  Speaker 4: I said that Trump is not only not unpopular, he
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  Speaker 4: is popular.
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  Speaker 1: He's at fifty.
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  Speaker 4: Percent approval in all the polls that matter, and fifty
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  Speaker 4: percent is enough to win any presidential election.
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  Speaker 1: And sure enough, sure enough, guess what happens.
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  Speaker 4: One of twenty twenty four's most active posters today puts
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  Speaker 4: Trump at fifty percent approval, the same number that won
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  Speaker 4: him the presidential election. He won it basically fifty to
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  Speaker 4: forty eight, and that's exactly where he is right now.
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  Speaker 4: Insider Advantage, one of twenty twenty four's most accurate posters,
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  Speaker 4: puts Trump's current approval rating at fifty percent a national survey.
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  Speaker 1: Of eight hundred likely voters.
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  Speaker 4: Again, I don't trust any poll that doesn't pull likely voters,
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  Speaker 4: and these guys are accurate because they poll likely voters.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't say you're a likely voter, that means
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  Speaker 4: the odds are you're probably not gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Go show up and vote.
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  Speaker 4: So this was conducted February seventeen to eighteenth and shows
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump's approval rating basically mirroring or slightly above the
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  Speaker 4: national popular vote result in the election of twenty twenty four. Right,
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  Speaker 4: his disapprovals forty six. I said fifty to forty eight
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  Speaker 4: was the basic final score of the presidential election of
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. He's actually at fifty forty six, two
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  Speaker 4: points better. He won the election by two points popular.
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  Speaker 4: Now he's head by four points popular, so insider advantage.
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  Speaker 4: Polster Matt Towery explains the discrepancy between his polls and
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  Speaker 4: polls showing Trump's approval.
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  Speaker 1: At like forty percent. He says, there are clearly two
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  Speaker 1: camps of polsters. Yeah right.
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  Speaker 4: One camp is honest and one camp has a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of freaking liars who over sample Democrats and don't sample
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  Speaker 4: likely voters. They like sample anyone who's walking in the
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  Speaker 4: street with a pulse, So there are two camps of pulses.
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  Speaker 1: He says, utilize.
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  Speaker 4: Different methods of data collection and weighing in their approval ratings,
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  Speaker 4: but I would note that the firms that most accurately
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  Speaker 4: poll Trump's three elections use similar methodologies. This includes Rasmussen,
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  Speaker 4: which currently has Trumpet forty eight percent approval.
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  Speaker 1: As far as insider advantage.
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  Speaker 4: Will the Polster not conduct any national polls during the
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four presidential election.
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  Speaker 1: The firm was dead.
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  Speaker 4: On in the five most hotly contested swing states.
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  Speaker 1: That's where I know them. That's where I know them from.
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  Speaker 4: They don't do national polling. They do swing state polling.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: In Wisconsin, Insider Advantage that Trump would win by one point,
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  Speaker 4: he won by one point. In Pennsylvania, they said he
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  Speaker 4: would win by one point. He won by one point
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  Speaker 4: seven points. In Michigan, they predicted a tie. He won
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  Speaker 4: by one point. In North Carolina, they predicted a two
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  Speaker 4: point victory, won by three. Insider Advantage predicted a three
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  Speaker 4: point Arizona victory for Trump.
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  Speaker 1: He won by five point five.
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  Speaker 4: So you could see, if anything inside our advantage methodology
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  Speaker 4: is a bit short, right, the poster predicted a tie
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  Speaker 4: in Nevada.
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  Speaker 1: Trump won by three in Nevada.
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  Speaker 4: So if they're saying he's fifty forty six approval, he's
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  Speaker 4: actually probably three points higher. So he's probably fifty two
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  Speaker 4: or fifty three and only like forty two or forty three.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a big lead. And the reason and why
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  Speaker 4: is because the economy is doing much better. All these
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  Speaker 4: people complained about inflation. You're not wrong, but that's not
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  Speaker 4: Trump's fault. It's got nothing to do with Trump. That's
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  Speaker 4: Biden inflation. And Trump's job was to stop the rate
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  Speaker 4: of increase, which he has done miraculously while imposing massive tariffs.
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  Speaker 4: It's an impossible magic act. He pulled a rabbit out
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  Speaker 4: of a hat and he did it. But he can't
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  Speaker 4: make the prices go in reverse. Okay, that would be
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  Speaker 4: called deflation. You could only get that if we're in
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  Speaker 4: a great depression. You could only achieve that if the
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  Speaker 4: president was a Biden or Kamala a great depression? Does
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  Speaker 4: anybody want a great depression? So your prices will go down,
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  Speaker 4: But you don't have a job.
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  Speaker 1: You're homeless.
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  Speaker 4: But a bottle of milk costs three dollars less. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: but your income is zero. Trump's war room assesses the midterms.
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  Speaker 1: It's the economy stupid.
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  Speaker 4: If Republicans lose the House or Senate, Trump's second term
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  Speaker 4: of general will be stopped dead. And it's track That
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  Speaker 4: reality brought Trump administration officials, polsters, and House Republicans together
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  Speaker 4: Tuesday night on Capitol Hill for a closed door.
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  Speaker 1: Strategy session with one goal. Don't blow it.
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  Speaker 4: Journalist Mark Alpern posted the details on X and what
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  Speaker 4: emerged was a picture of a party knows exactly what's
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  Speaker 4: at stake. Whether they understand how to win, that's another.
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  Speaker 1: Story, but politicals are.
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  Speaker 4: James Blair opened with historical data, making the case the
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  Speaker 4: midterm losses for the president's party aren't just common, they're
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  Speaker 4: nearly inevitable. Decades of president suggests the party in power.
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  Speaker 1: Will lose seats.
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  Speaker 4: The lone exception of the past twenty five years was
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  Speaker 4: the two thousand and two midterms, when Republicans gained seats
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  Speaker 4: in the House and Senate while Bush was still president.
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  Speaker 1: But that was no ordinary election.
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  Speaker 4: It was the first midterm after the nine to eleven
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  Speaker 4: terror attacks. Blair walked through the numbers and how rare
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  Speaker 4: it is for a sitting president's party to avoid significant
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  Speaker 4: seat losses, framing the whole operation as a race against
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  Speaker 4: historical president a. Strategist Tony Fabrizio followed with roughly twenty
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  Speaker 4: five slides of voter data, including demographics, issue rankings, and
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  Speaker 4: which messages cut through the noises. Bottom line was blunt,
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  Speaker 4: The economy will be the issue in the election. It's
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  Speaker 4: all that matters. Trying to argue about wages being up
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  Speaker 4: will not help. Voters have to feel it. He found
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  Speaker 4: that the messages that actually resonate with persuadable voters include
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  Speaker 4: banning stock trading for members of Congress, transparency on health
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  Speaker 4: insurance pricing and claims reimbursement, lowering prescription drug costs, and.
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  Speaker 1: Trump's tax cuts.
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  Speaker 4: Housing affordability also a huge issue. Meanwhile, taking credit for
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  Speaker 4: closing the border, one of Trump's strongest issues, does not
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  Speaker 4: resonate much.
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  Speaker 1: I find that interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Fabrizio told the audience the biggest takeaway is to focus
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  Speaker 4: on Trump's efforts to lower prescription drug pricing. Democrats are
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  Speaker 4: running on that we hate Trump argument and virtually nothing else.
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  Speaker 4: They have no ideas, nothing, not a single idea that
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  Speaker 4: would ever help America. So the most persuadable voters are men, moderates,
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  Speaker 4: true independence and Hispanic voters. And then came the most
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  Speaker 4: candid moment of the briefing. Blair acknowledged outright, regardless of
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  Speaker 4: what came out of the meeting, Donald Trump will do
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  Speaker 4: what Donald Trump wants to do, say what Donald Trump
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  Speaker 4: wants to say, and not be data driven. Everyone else
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  Speaker 4: has to stay on message and be driven by the data,
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  Speaker 4: in effect two separate but related campaigns. But the good
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  Speaker 4: news is that voters don't pay attention to Labor Day.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what my belief is, by Labor Day,
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna have a roaring, roaring economy thanks to President Trump.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of sports.
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  Speaker 4: Stories I want to get into in this first segment
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  Speaker 4: real quick. The United States hockey team won today NHA
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  Speaker 4: NHL star Quinn Us scored a goal in overtime against Sweden,
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  Speaker 4: securing two to one victory for the US to keep
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  Speaker 4: must in the running for a possible gold medal, and
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  Speaker 4: following the heroic moment, use express national pride. Upon hearing
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  Speaker 4: chants of USA, USA and people waving American flags, he said,
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  Speaker 4: it's special. I love the US. It's the greatest country
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  Speaker 4: in the world. So I'm happy to represent here with
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  Speaker 4: these guys. And it was very special, so very cool.
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  Speaker 4: The hockey players are always conservative. Why they're white.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing racist to admit. White people lean towards not
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  Speaker 1: even lead.
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  Speaker 4: Overwhelmingly are conservative and Republican and maga patriots and everybody
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  Speaker 4: else is the problem.
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  Speaker 1: We got to convince them to come over to our side.
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  Speaker 1: That's not racism. That's fact. White males are overwhelmingly Trump
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  Speaker 1: Maga conservatives, and that's why football.
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  Speaker 4: Is overwhelmingly liberal, basketball liberal, baseball liberal out of Hispanic
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  Speaker 4: and black liberal, and hockey overwhelmingly patriotic Maga conservative trumpers.
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  Speaker 1: Chicago Bears committed to Indiana movie. How about that one?
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  Speaker 4: So good old Governor Pritzker of Michigan, excuse me, of Illinois.
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  Speaker 1: Is a fat pig, and he's so busy eating all day.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't really focus on anything else except saving illegal aliens,
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  Speaker 4: food and saving illegal aliens, stuffing his mouth and saving
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  Speaker 4: and protecting and defending illegal aliens and not giving a
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  Speaker 4: damn about the average citizen.
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  Speaker 1: And he's not watching. And Chicago Bears are committed.
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  Speaker 4: To moving to Indiana, moving the team from downtown Chicago
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  Speaker 4: to a spot in northwest Indiana, an hour from Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: And it's moving in a serious direction.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what happens when you f around and you
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  Speaker 4: find out right, that's Trump's favorite saying. The biggest news
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  Speaker 4: story today was certainly Andrew. You know, the former Prince Andrew,
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  Speaker 4: the younger brother of King Charles of England, was arrested today,
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  Speaker 4: all involving the Epstein charges and you know child sex
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  Speaker 4: and pedophilia and who did he have sex with?
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  Speaker 1: And what did he do?
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  Speaker 4: How did he misrepresent England while representing the country. Never
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  Speaker 4: did you think you'd see Prince Andrew being arrested right
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  Speaker 4: in handcuffs and being taken to the police station. And
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  Speaker 4: a British King Charles reacts to the arrest of his
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  Speaker 4: younger brother for suspicion of misconduct in public office because of.
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  Speaker 1: His Epstein ties, and he says the law must take
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  Speaker 1: its course. Is that really what's happening? Is he not
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  Speaker 1: going to put his finger on the scale and try
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  Speaker 1: and save his brother. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds like he's pulling away from his brother and
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  Speaker 4: he wants nothing to do with him. Because your brother
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  Speaker 4: can cheat and steal and rip off the public like
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  Speaker 4: every other politician does. The one thing he can't get
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  Speaker 4: away with is having sex with underage girls. So I
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  Speaker 4: think King Charles had enough of Andrew. Andrew's going bye
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  Speaker 4: bye prison, all right? Swaye ala rude up Joined now
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  Speaker 5: seven companies public, raised several hundred million dollars, and I
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  Speaker 3: Where we I lived my family. We're a family business.
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  Speaker 5: I started the VRA in two thousand and three, My wife,
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  Speaker 5: We tell you what we're doing with our money so
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  Speaker 5: very proud of that and we're looking for a very very.
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  Speaker 3: Big gear of this year in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 4: Why do you believe this structural bulloe market that we're
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  Speaker 4: in is just getting started.
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  Speaker 5: Got to understand a structural bull market. It is the
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  Speaker 5: strongest bull marketing possibly have. It's being being driven by fundamentals,
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  Speaker 5: and that's what you have here. We also have the
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  Speaker 5: combination of what we call our Big three, the Trump
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  Speaker 5: economic miracle, Trump's tax cuts, deregulation in tariffs, combined with
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  Speaker 5: the innovation revolution, which is just getting started.
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  Speaker 3: It's much much more than just AI.
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  Speaker 5: This is innovation like we've not seen in the last
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  Speaker 5: one hundred years combined, and it's going to change everyone's
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  Speaker 5: life dramatically for the better, we believe, and it can
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  Speaker 5: create millions of more jobs than most people believe. And
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  Speaker 5: third is this absolute ocean of liquidity that exists out there.
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  Speaker 3: Very few people talking about this.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty two threeion dollars in an into money supply, seven
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  Speaker 5: tree dollars sitting in cash and money markets, forty threellion
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  Speaker 5: dollars sitting in home equity.
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  Speaker 3: We just need lower race to loosen that up.
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  Speaker 5: We think Trump's going to bring all that home to
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  Speaker 5: us this year and it's going to have the market
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  Speaker 5: soaring for a number of years.
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  Speaker 4: You have maybe a fortune, you're brilliant, You're a genius.
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  Speaker 1: What makes you so different?
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  Speaker 5: In our second letter in two thousand and three, I
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  Speaker 5: recommended gold at three fifty silver at five dollars an ounce,
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  Speaker 5: and we're now over twelve hundred percent, actually eighteen hundred
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  Speaker 5: percent and solver in the recommendation.
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  Speaker 3: What makes you unique?
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  Speaker 5: There and the reason people should save in gold, and
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  Speaker 5: we tell you.
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  Speaker 3: To get your money out of fiach curacies.
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  Speaker 5: Gets you want to have bank accounts, it's being printed
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  Speaker 5: to oblivion saving gold. If you've done that since who
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  Speaker 5: recommended in two thousand and three, your one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 5: dollars invest would be worth one point six million versus
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  Speaker 5: the less than a hundred thousand dollars you'd have in
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  Speaker 5: bank accounts. Gold and silver, the miners especially, and the
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for all you've done.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Wayne, nowl the rude Let me mention the
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  Speaker 4: Clark County Republican Party Lincoln Day dinner.
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  Speaker 1: That's coming up a week from tomorrow. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: When they asked me to be the MC of the
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  Speaker 4: entire event that was like two months ago.
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  Speaker 1: It is going. Time is just moving so fast. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: I can't believe it's almost March. It's almost spring, and
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  Speaker 4: then it's gonna be summer. I gotta start planning my
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  Speaker 4: summer vacations now. If you don't book there's not gonna
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  Speaker 4: be anything available in July.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta start doing that.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, every year, I promise myself I'll do that in January,
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  Speaker 4: and my worst case is February, and then I never
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  Speaker 4: booked it till March or April and there's nothing left.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just too much to do in a day.
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  Speaker 4: Lincoln Day Dinner Republican Party, Clark County Republican Party. Lincoln
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  Speaker 4: Day Dinner only happens once a year. It is rooted
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  Speaker 4: in Lincoln's legacy, United for the battle ahead. This is
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  Speaker 4: the big one before the midterms, and it'll be the
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  Speaker 4: last one before the midterms, the biggest dinner of the
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  Speaker 4: year for Republicans. And Wayne out Rude is your MC
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  Speaker 4: of the evening. I got my friend Kevin Sorbo to
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  Speaker 4: be the keynote speaker. Former star of Hercules, the biggest
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  Speaker 4: syndicated series in the history of America. I think you're
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  Speaker 4: the history of the world. Also, Joe Lombard of the Governor,
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  Speaker 4: Anthony Stavus, the Lieutenant Governor, and some mystery guest of
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  Speaker 4: the White House. They're arranging someone big from the White
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  Speaker 4: House to be there as well. Can't wait to introduce
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  Speaker 4: all these greats for the Nevada Republican Party in all
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  Speaker 4: of you, So make sure you go there. How do
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  Speaker 4: Party dot com Clarkcounty Republican Party dot com and get
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  Speaker 4: a ticket to the Lincoln Day Gala?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 4: And the next day, by the way, is the NYE
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  Speaker 4: County Lincoln Day Dinner. I'm the keynote speaker. Nine County
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  Speaker 4: is Perump, Nevada, about an hour outside of Las Vegas,
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  Speaker 4: filled with a county filled with great Republicans, very Republican county.
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  Speaker 1: And very proud to be the MC of that one.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm sure you can go to Nay County Republican
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  Speaker 4: Party and get your Linked Day Dinner ticket there as well.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, you know Trump is delivering I wish I could.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta find the article Trump is delivering because it
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  Speaker 4: was great Tariff news today, But I did not put
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  Speaker 4: my articles in order because I was in such a
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  Speaker 4: rush before the show.
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  Speaker 1: I never had a chance. But just take it from me.
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  Speaker 1: The tariff numbers were really really here.
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  Speaker 4: It is really good Trump effect trade a trade deficit.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me, the tariff numbers, the trade deficit numbers.
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  Speaker 1: I met say.
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  Speaker 4: The trade deficit narrows as the Trump tariffs reshape global commerce.
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  Speaker 4: US trade deficit narrowed sharply in the fourth quarter, suggesting
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  Speaker 4: a President Trump's tariffs maybe rebalancing trade all over the
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  Speaker 4: world by opening foreign markets to US exports and reducing
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  Speaker 4: dependence on imports. Who doesn't want that? Only if you're
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  Speaker 4: a global loser who hates America would you not want that?
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  Speaker 4: The three month average goods deficit fell to eighty point
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  Speaker 4: five billion in the fourth quarter, down twenty seven percent
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  Speaker 4: from one hundred and nine billion in the same period
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  Speaker 4: a year older. The combined goods and services deficit dropped
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  Speaker 1: Yan yuk Alec yuc Alec, I believe is how you pronounced.
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  Speaker 4: He's a senior editor at Epic Times, author of Killed
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: to Order. That's his new book, Killed to Order, China's
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Organ Harvesting Industry and the True Nature of America's Biggest Adversary.
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  Speaker 1: Yan, welcome to the show. How are you?
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: I'm fantastic And I don't know if I should say Wayne,
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  Speaker 7: Wayne Allen or.
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  Speaker 1: R oh just Wayne? Just Wayne? Yeah, No, Wayne's good.
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  Speaker 1: I only say Wayne.
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  Speaker 4: I use Alan just because it spells out my initials
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: war But I'm just Wayne and might pronounce your last name?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Right? Is it yuck Alec yuck allect you did?
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  Speaker 7: I'd say your top five percentile?
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  Speaker 2: There?
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  Speaker 1: Close enough? Close enough? All right? And it's Yan right Yan? Correct? Okay? Good?
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So your book is called Kill to Order, China's Organ
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Harvesting Industry and the true nature of America's biggest adversary.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I had a great guest on yesterday, Casey Fleming, who's
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: got a new book out, talking about how vicious.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And horrible China is and how they want to kill
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: us all. And I assume you know you're an expert
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: who studied them, and you feel the same way.
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  Speaker 4: This is a vicious, cunning, violent, vile adversary that will
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: do anything including kill us all at a pandemic or
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: kill us all with a nuclear bomb.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: I think, you tell me, well, here's the deal, right,
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: We're looking at a regime that is probably the most
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: vicious in the history of the world, quite possibly, Okay,
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: but we're also looking at a people who are themselves
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: the subjects of being exploited by that regime. So when
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: we're talking about forced organ harvesting, this is a kind
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: of not your garden variety organ trafficking situation you might
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: have heard in urban legends. This is the sort of
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: thing where you have a state power that can push
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: mass propaganda through a system, right, it can incarcerate huge
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: amounts of people. This is in fact what they did
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: with falongong practitioners back in nineteen ninety nine. There were
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: seventy to one hundred million people doing this grassroots, bottom
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: up health and spiritual discipline, truthfulness, compassion, tolerance, they're practicing that,
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: and they found seventy two hundred million by government estimate,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: people were doing it by the end of the nineties,
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: bigger than the Communist party. And communists don't like things
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: that are bigger than the communist parties, so they decided
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: to crush it, to eradicate it, to the use the
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: words of the dictator. They demonized, dehumanize these people through propaganda,
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: not that different from Germany in the nineteen thirties, for example,
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: against the Jews. And then they incarcerated to say a million,
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: maybe more, we don't know the exact numbers, but a
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: huge amount of people. And that's when ads started appearing
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: on the Chinese Internet, and we still have some of
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: these archive that would say you can get a new
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: heart if you have the right amount of cash, say
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty grand or something like this in
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: two weeks, okay. And the reason that you could do
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: that is because these people who had been incarcerated had
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: been blood type tissue typed organ scanned. In many cases,
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: they were those information were put into a database, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: these people were basically ready to be killed to order
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: once someone paid that money, because they were already pre
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: matched and incarcerated and then killed on demand. And this
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: is a whole different level.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we have bad things happening in the United States,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: and there's some bad people in government, and certainly under
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: bidend Obama, there was some really bad people that use
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: the irs to try to destroy my life. But in
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: the end, nobody is like knocking on your door in
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: the middle of the night, thank God, and take you away,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: never to return and then harvesting your organs. So it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: still not Cuba, it's still not China, it's still not
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: East Germany.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: America has ways to go.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Although I have no doubt that the left kind of
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: mirrors these people and will someday try and be that
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: bad maybe some version of that, But that's pretty darn bad.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: That's about as bad as you get.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: They took Daddy away and then they took his heart
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: and his liver and gave it to somebody else and
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: bury Daddy.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: We never saw him again.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure in between they torture these people too, right,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I got to assume, well.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: There before you take their heart. They're getting tortured.
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: Well, so what's really interesting. There's a man, one of
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: the heroes actually of doing the research on this whole thing,
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: as a man named Matthew Robertson. He just recently published
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: at PhD thesis where he coins this term extractive repression. Okay,
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: and where we're talking about there's kind of multiple purposes
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: going on here. On the one hand, there's this industry
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: industrial scale. I mean, we're talking about sixty to ninety
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: thousand transplants from prisoners of conscience annually. Okay, so it's huge,
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: huge scale. And of course and we estimate that's about
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: a nine billion dollar a year industry. So that's one part.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: But the other part was these you know, the powers
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: that be were very committed to trying to destroy Fallan Gong.
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: That didn't necessarily mean at the beginning to kill everybody
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: or something like that. It meant they have to break them,
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: they have to you know, force them to renounce their faith.
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: But because this was such a bottom up, grassroots movement,
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: if you will, a lot of got's say, internal agency
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: for everyone that was actually practicing it, it turned out
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: these people are very, very difficult to re educate very
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: difficult to get them to renounce their beliefs. And that's
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: when this unwritten rule came into the system that all
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: Fellan Goong deaths will be considered suicides, right, and this
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: is and the people you know, so basically we can
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: work on these people in whatever way. And this is
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: what was weird, Like a number of the people who
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: actually survived these camps that we interviewed would say things like,
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: you know, on the one hand, we're being tortured. On
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: the other hand, they're giving us and they didn't fully
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: understand what was really going on, but they're giving us
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: a lot of medical tests. And you know, the people
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: that were actually kind of studying this were like, this is,
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: these are expensive medical tests. It makes no sense. They're
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: clearly not to make sure that they're okay because they're
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: being tortured on one end, right, on the other hand,
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: there's some sort of gathering of information and testing being done.
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: That's that that really would never be done to someone
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: who just happens to be in a prison incarcerated.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, because we want your heart.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I hate to laugh, but sometimes you just
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: have to laugh to keep from crying.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It's such horrible stuff.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: You know, one hundred percent, You're exactly right, Like, it's
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: very hard to deal with emotionally because this is a
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: next level right, Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: It's terrible. You know.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: By the way, the thing it gets me the worst
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: is not to do with China. But I'm an animal lover, right,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I just love dogs so much. I love my dog
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: and I have a golden doodle. Right, and somebody left
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: a golden doodle at the Vegas airport.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Jen's become the biggest national story. They were getting on
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: an airplane and they just tied their dog to the
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: luggage rack and tried to get on the plane and
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: abandon their dog.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And they were arrested. Thank god.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: The Vegas police are very pro dog, pro animal, and
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: they don't take this stuff lightly.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: And they arrested this woman and then she got.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Violent with them, so they arrested her for, you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: attacking a cop. And then she just abandoned the dog
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: because she had ten days to pick it up again,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: and she never came to get it.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: And now there are.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Thousands of people calling from all over the United States
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: to adopt this dog, and you know, only one person
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: can get it. They've got thousands of phone calls from
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: every state. It's just so funny that there's seen America
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: and a China. In America, we all cry over a
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: dog that's been left behind.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: In China, they.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Torture people, they murder people, they harvest organs, and they
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: I'm sure kill dogs and eat them right in the
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: wet markets. So it's like this different, this dichotomy, this
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: different world. We are such nice people by nature that
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: we cry over a dog left behind and they would
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: eat the dog right.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: Well, it's it's a bit worse even I would say,
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: like there might be some culture, as for example, in Vietnam,
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: eating dog is something that's you know, just something that
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: was done for some time, right, But we're talking about
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: a level of cruelty that we're not familiar with, and
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: that has to that comes from this very twisted approach
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: of utilitarianism that is manifest in every communist society that
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: has ever existed. It's basically kind of a replacement of
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: God by the state. And I actually cover this quite
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: a bit and killed to order because it's an important
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: part of the story.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: Why how is it that you get this extreme situation
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: a killed to order mass scale industry while you get
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: it because it's actually systemic, and this Communist party takes
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: the supreme role and everyone is expected to be subservient
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: to it, replacing that sort of external judge if you will,
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: that would that God would take the role of it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Sure does seem you know. Look, we can't prove there's
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: a God. People who are atheists want me to prove it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I can't prove it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: But people I know.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Including me, who believe in God are just happier and
• 33:01
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• 33:05
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• 33:09
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• 33:13
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• 33:15
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• 33:18
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• 33:20
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• 33:25
  Speaker 4: heading to a break. Wayne Alerutz back with the senior
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: editor at Epic Times. All right, I'm annoyed by Sean
• 33:37
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• 33:40
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• 34:28
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• 34:35
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• 34:38
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• 34:43
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• 34:46
  Speaker 8: one could never be drilled.
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  Speaker 1: And when we made.
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  Speaker 8: Our discovery, well two years ago, we hit such high
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  Speaker 8: pressure gas. This is on par with the highest pressure
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  Speaker 8: recorded in North America. And so we know this is
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  Speaker 8: going to be a huge gas development and a very
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  Speaker 8: significant find. And so far we've got seven thousand feet
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  Speaker 8: to discover here over the next year or so.
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  Speaker 4: How does Trump's Big Beautiful bill impact the Lost Soldier project.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it really does. What it does is it cuts
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  Speaker 8: the red tape. We are on federal land. We have
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  Speaker 8: a federal unit thirty eight square miles to develop on
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  Speaker 8: federal land, and it cuts the red tape for the development.
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  Speaker 8: But the other thing the bill does is it encourages
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  Speaker 8: at the highest levels ever that is expected to grow
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  Speaker 8: by eighty percent over the next four years. And plus
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  Speaker 4: Lost Soldier forty thousand acres could be the largest gas
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  Speaker 4: discovery in the United States in one hundred years. Accredited
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  Speaker 1: How do they do it, Steve, very.
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  Speaker 8: Simple wayn Just go to Lost Soldier dot com and
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  Speaker 4: the author of Killed to Order and Yan you said,
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  Speaker 4: there's a living survivor, and you could tell us his story.
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  Speaker 4: So I wait, with beta breath, what is his story?
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  Speaker 1: Tell us?
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  Speaker 7: It's kind of unbelievable that there is a survivor. I
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: been sitting in this for twenty years, basically doing some
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: of the original reporting when I first realized it was
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  Speaker 7: true and real. Chung Payming is a man who is
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  Speaker 7: missing part of his liver, part of it regenerated since
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: it was removed from his body, and part of his lung.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, basically he was in a prison. He
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  Speaker 7: was one of these felongong practitioners that was being tortured,
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: and one day he woke up after having been in
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  Speaker 7: some kind of ward and he found a fourteen inch
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  Speaker 7: gash in his side and he was, you know, feeling
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  Speaker 7: a lot of pain internally, but he didn't fully understand
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  Speaker 7: what had happened to him. And through kind of a
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  Speaker 7: series of events which I won't disclose to you, but
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  Speaker 7: they're kind of shocking. I'm someone my father in law
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  Speaker 7: was a Holocaust survivor. I've interviewed a number of Holocaust
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  Speaker 7: survivors and they all have these stories where you know,
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  Speaker 7: they almost got face certain death, but something happened and
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: they managed to make it right, and that happened multiple times,
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  Speaker 7: and eventually they survived the war right, and they lived
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  Speaker 7: to tell the tale. His story is almost is a
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: bit similar in some ways because it's really unexpected that
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: he might survive, and he only found out later that
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: this forced organ harvesting was real and actually got scans
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: done on his body to find that his liver, part
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  Speaker 7: of his liver, and part of his lung had been taken.
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  Speaker 7: It's not even clear why part of the lung was taken,
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: because the lung doesn't regenerate. But and he lived to
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: tell the tale, and he's living proof. And when this
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: story was publicized a few years back, the Chinese regime,
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  Speaker 7: it was very rare for them to ever address anything
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: related to forced organ harvesting with anything other than just
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: pure slander, basically attack the messenger because they really have
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: nothing to say to it of substance. They've never provided
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  Speaker 7: a shred of evidence that would suggest that this is
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  Speaker 7: not real. Right, and in twenty years, but in this case,
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  Speaker 7: they actually admitted, and again shockingly, that they did the
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  Speaker 7: operation on him. They said they did it for some
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: other reason, but they admitted in effect that they operate
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: out on him against consent, against his own consent, which
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: is shocking because it's the first time we've gotten that
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: kind of admission from the regime.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: So how many people do you think there are? How
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: many victims are there?
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  Speaker 4: Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions. I don't know
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: how many victims are there yet, Jehan.
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: It's very Look, I'm going to be straight with you, okay,
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: it's very hard to measure this because it's a state secret.
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: And every type of measurement you do has what we
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: call large air bars, right, And when we do studies
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: of this nature, so the best by best estimate, okay,
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: And this for example, I'll give you an example how
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: we measure this.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 7: There's a hospital that we did a deep study on
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: in twenty sixteen, actually that you can look it up
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: at the Epoch Times, a hospital built for murder. Look
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: up an article titled that, and they so this was
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: a hospital's one of the largest transplant centers in China.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: By its own admission, it was comparing itself to some
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: large American transplant centers. But when you looked at their numbers,
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: the number of beds, if you just looked at their
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: official numbers, they looked something like a very successful American
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: transplant center. Okay, But when you looked at the number
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: of beds that were being used, you looked at all
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: of these different measures that showed that there's actually ten
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: times more transplants happening in this hospital, okay. And then
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: they were actually admitting because they didn't want to project
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: numbers that would get people asking these problematic questions. You
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: add that all up, you get sixty to ninety thousand
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  Speaker 7: transplants a year annually since let's just say the late
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: two thousands, and when you add all of that up,
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: it could well be about a million people that have
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: been harvested. But you know, I don't I'm not going
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: to sort of stick with that number because well, let's.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Say that's what age it can be up to, maybe
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: close to a million people.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Amazing could be Yeah, we got to run. They're in
• 43:01
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  Speaker 4: Yan Yucalick, senior editor at Epic Times, author of the
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