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Ian Furness 10/27 H1: The Seahawks big trade, Kim Grinolds and the state of College Football. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines. All right, Headlines are brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by Frostbrook Coors Light Cold as the Rockies. Breaking news,
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks made a trade with the Colts this morning. But
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  Speaker 1: not for Jonathan Taylor. It's funny, Ashley writes that in there,
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  Speaker 1: and I jumped in the car at 10. I was
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  Speaker 1: doing some other stuff, and I was away from everything
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  Speaker 1: for a minute. I hear Greg do the update. He goes,
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks have made a trade with the Indianapolis Colts. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone got excited.
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  Speaker 1: And then you said, and before Greg said who the
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  Speaker 1: trade was for, he said what it was, a third
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  Speaker 1: and a fifth. And I'm like, well, I ain't Jonathan Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So then for a fleeting second, I said, please be Quentin. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: Future Hall of Fame guard.
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  Speaker 5: And you know it's a pretty decent one because John
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  Speaker 5: Lund's already talking trash about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be. Is he with us at 2 o'clock?
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  Speaker 1: He's with us at 2.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, he's with us at 2.
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  Speaker 1: He's got his own problems down there. But yeah, Quentin
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  Speaker 1: Nelson coming to the Seahawks. Get to that in a second.
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys beat the Eagles 38-21 Monday Night Football last night.
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  Speaker 1: Next week's Monday night football game, way better than Sunday
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  Speaker 1: night game, by the way. Seahawks hosting the Bears. UW
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  Speaker 1: Center Landon Hatchett missed the rest of the 2026 season. Head, neck,
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  Speaker 1: spine injury. Plans to return in 2027. Should make a
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  Speaker 1: full recovery, which is good news. Dan Lanning says Dante
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  Speaker 1: Moore also will miss the rest of the season. He
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  Speaker 1: also will make a full recovery. Does he come back
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  Speaker 1: to Oregon? Probably has to now. Milwaukee Brewers, one win
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  Speaker 1: away from winning their first ever World Series. Eight run,
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  Speaker 1: two out rally in the fifth. 10-1 win last night,
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  Speaker 1: game four this night.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: brought in some kick-ass pizza today.
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  Speaker 2: Those look so good.
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  Speaker 1: So good. Puget's Pounder, Cherry Bomb. Those are my two favorites.
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  Speaker 1: The Dragon Pizza is really good. Pepperoni, W10, sausage, fresh jalapeno,
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  Speaker 1: fresh garlic. Phenomenal. Zeke'sPizza.com. They bring you Jory with Greg
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  Speaker 1: every week and Palazzolo with us every week.
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  Speaker 2: The Cherry Bomb is the one with the hot peppers
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  Speaker 2: on it?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that used to be my favorite, too.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: So good.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: That lactose world of yours is not treating you well.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I wish it was more of the lactose
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  Speaker 5: thing because I could take a pill and just eat
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  Speaker 5: it and deal with it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I got you.
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  Speaker 2: But it's an actual, like I get an ear infection
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  Speaker 2: and a sinus infection.
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  Speaker 1: That's no fun.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: That's no fun.
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  Speaker 2: Although sometimes it's worth it. So we'll see how I
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  Speaker 2: feel in about an hour.
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  Speaker 1: I just want you to pass. I need you the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the week. That's Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Ian.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. 49451 Tacoma Dodge text line.
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  Speaker 5: 49451. Also.
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  Speaker 1: Your thoughts, comments, questions, concerns on the trade, welcome on
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  Speaker 1: the TalkBack mic. Fire those away. Let's get those coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Red microphone on the iHeartRadio app, 93.3 KJR FM. Kim
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  Speaker 1: Grenells is going to join us at 1220. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to do a little college football and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: NFL football today, but we're going to talk some college football.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the Cougs coming up at 120 today. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just going to go down the road. I just hate
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  Speaker 1: college football. I don't hate college football. I love college football.
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  Speaker 1: I hate where it's at right now. That's fair. I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people may share. This might cross
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  Speaker 1: enemy lines and change how we all feel. Even the
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  Speaker 1: Wazoo segment today, we're going to spend a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time just talking bigger picture in the world of college athletics.
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  Speaker 5: But I think the way you just put that, you
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  Speaker 5: love college football, but you don't like where it's at.
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  Speaker 5: That's how I feel. And I think if I didn't
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  Speaker 5: love it, then I would just be like, eh, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: It's fine.
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  Speaker 2: But clearly, there's still a place for it in my heart.
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  Speaker 1: New high is all on today with Chuck and Anders
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  Speaker 1: in the morning kind of touched on that, too, and
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  Speaker 1: had a great point. I'll get to that later. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just talk about the trade real quick. We'll break it
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  Speaker 1: down at 1 o'clock. Hugh Millen, by the way, 320
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  Speaker 1: on with Softie, Fane, and Jackson to break it down.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to lean on the kid at 1 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: He did a great job in the draft with the
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  Speaker 1: offensive lineman a couple years ago. We'll do that again
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  Speaker 1: with him coming up at 1 o'clock just for a
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  Speaker 1: few minutes and get his thoughts. I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people, oh, just put him at left guard
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  Speaker 1: or put him at right guard or switch this guy,
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  Speaker 1: move this guy. There's a reason that guys play certain positions.
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  Speaker 1: Zabel's never taken a snap. Greg and I just talked
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  Speaker 1: about this if you're just joining us. Greg Zabel's never
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  Speaker 1: taken a snap that we know of unless he's done
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  Speaker 1: it Behind closed doors in practice is not open to
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  Speaker 1: the media at either tackle position or, I don't believe,
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  Speaker 1: center either. Now, he took snaps at center in the
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  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl practices, and he played tackle at North Dakota State.
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  Speaker 1: But since he got to the NFL, he's been a
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  Speaker 1: guard and a left guard at that. Quentin Nelson's a
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame left guard. Easy thing is you move
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  Speaker 1: Zabel over to right guard. Does that mean Anthony Bradford?
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  Speaker 3: Pfft.
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  Speaker 1: As he go to the bench after one week coming
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  Speaker 1: back and which by all accounts played pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Sam Darnold didn't get sacked at all
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  Speaker 2: in this last game.
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  Speaker 1: They ran for a hundred yards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One game looked decent.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get into that a little bit and just
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  Speaker 1: the intricacies of it and what, and I, the one
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  Speaker 1: thing I just as, as I was texting the young
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  Speaker 1: fellow a minute ago and on the way in and, um,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to read this to you. I think he, he, he, he, I, he,
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  Speaker 1: I drive him nuts. I get it. Um, Fella, do
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  Speaker 1: yourself a favor and look up Quentin Nelson highlights. Not
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  Speaker 1: only is he probably the best wide zone guard in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, but he's one of the best pass blockers ever.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll just have him explain what that means.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Knucklehead.
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  Speaker 2: Little trash talking.
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  Speaker 3: Fella.
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  Speaker 1: Calls me Fella.
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  Speaker 4: Fella.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you call him that, don't you?
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  Speaker 1: I call everybody Fella. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Like father, like son.
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  Speaker 1: This is the fourth straight year that John Schneider has
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  Speaker 1: made a trade in season. All right. 2023, Leonard Williams. 2024,
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  Speaker 1: Ernest Jones. 2025, Rasheed Shaheed. 2026, Quentin Nelson.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hope this one works out as well as those others.
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  Speaker 1: All three of those have worked out well. And for
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  Speaker 1: anybody who wants to trash on Rasheed Shaheed, okay, I know.
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  Speaker 1: The contract you may not love.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair.
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  Speaker 1: Did you play the Super Bowl last year? And let
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  Speaker 1: me just reference a couple of key moments from Rasheed
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  Speaker 1: Shaheed's short Seahawk tenure. I rest my case, Your Honor.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to walk away from that at that point.
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  Speaker 1: We could talk about the contract now and how is
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  Speaker 1: it going to age or is it not going to age.
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  Speaker 1: Rasheed Shahid trade got you to a Super Bowl last year.
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  Speaker 5: Rasheed Shahid had that game against the Niners over before
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  Speaker 5: it started.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. And the Rams?
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  Speaker 2: And the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Not over before it started, but certainly a key.
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  Speaker 2: But he sure made a big difference.
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  Speaker 1: So when he makes a trade in season, at least
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  Speaker 1: the last three, they have been very impeccable. Ernest Jones
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  Speaker 1: speaks for itself, and so does Leonard Williams, big cat.
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  Speaker 1: All three times, and I'll just go back to Leonard
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  Speaker 1: Williams because I was still with the team and traveling
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  Speaker 1: and covering it for Fox 13 and in the locker
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  Speaker 1: room every day and all those things. When that trade
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  Speaker 1: was made, I remember there was a lot of pushback
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  Speaker 1: in the market amongst fans and media going, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what they're doing. And I remember being told by
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  Speaker 1: somebody in the organization at the time, if you think
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  Speaker 1: this is a one-off and they're just going for him
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  Speaker 1: now and this is just for 2023, you're crazy. This
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  Speaker 1: is something that Schneider loves him. Now, remember, at the time,
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  Speaker 1: Pete was still here. But they loved him. And they thought, A, player-wise,
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  Speaker 1: a lot left in the tank. B, culture-wise, a perfect
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  Speaker 1: fit for what Seattle wants to do.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's proven to be the case. And the plan
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  Speaker 1: all along was to re-sign Leonard Williams. Ernest Jones is
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different, only in the sense that when
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  Speaker 1: they traded for Ernest Jones, when they made that trade,
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  Speaker 1: they made that trade with the thought process... that McDonald
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  Speaker 1: didn't like their two starting linebackers, if you remember, the
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  Speaker 1: two guys they brought in.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of them ended up going to Miami, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It was those guys they brought in. They didn't like
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  Speaker 1: them dudes, and they were not McDonald type of guys,
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  Speaker 1: which is fine. Yeah, the kid from Buffalo. Yeah. Who
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  Speaker 1: I think ended up in Miami, right? Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't there a, it was Baker.
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  Speaker 1: Baker and Baker. And I can't remember the other guy's name.
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  Speaker 1: That's how.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly they made an impact on us.
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  Speaker 1: Huge impact. They were gone after like four weeks, but
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  Speaker 1: that's why they made a favor. But also the plan
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  Speaker 1: is try to resign him. That's kind of a desperation
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  Speaker 1: move in a sense. Rashid Shaheed was we're close. We
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  Speaker 1: need something. And in this case, it's pushing the little
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  Speaker 1: red button and the little red buttons. Like when you
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  Speaker 1: played asteroids back in the day, remember you hit the
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  Speaker 1: little button. Right? That's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Blow it up.
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  Speaker 1: Blow it all up. And that's what Rashid Shaheed did.
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  Speaker 1: And now you go out and you get a guy.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a guy. You get a guy in Quentin Nelson
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  Speaker 1: that is the best at his position, probably in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: If he's not the best still at the age of 30,
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  Speaker 1: he's in the top five. He's in that conversation. So
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  Speaker 1: just a great... I think if you're a Seahawks fan,
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  Speaker 1: one thing you got to know. This is what's really cool.
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  Speaker 1: I think about what the Seahawks and what John Schneider,
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  Speaker 1: what they're all about. John Schneider is... is not about
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  Speaker 1: resting on his laurels. He is not about sitting back
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  Speaker 1: and waiting. He is not about, let's see how things
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  Speaker 1: pan out. He's about pouncing on an opportunity, taking advantage
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  Speaker 1: and getting after it and being aggressive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Aggressive GM. Now, listen, we can yell and scream all
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  Speaker 1: we want in this town about, say, Jerry DiPoto. DiPoto,
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  Speaker 1: most of the time at trade deadlines, is kind of
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  Speaker 1: the same way. Now, he's a little more restricted at times. Financially,
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  Speaker 1: it's funny I say that because there's no salary cap
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  Speaker 1: in baseball. Right, I was going to say, which is
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  Speaker 1: so backwards. In football, there is, but you get the point.
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  Speaker 1: Also keep in mind, you just made a trade. Remember
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  Speaker 1: all that people talking about, oh, CXF salary cap space.
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  Speaker 1: Why didn't they re-sign Ken Walker? Right. Different. They just
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  Speaker 1: went and got a guy to help fill some of
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: that space you had. But Schneider gets after it. If
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  Speaker 1: I'm being honest, it's my one criticism of the Kraken. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they've tried. They just haven't hit it. every player in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL or in the NHL has a no trade
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  Speaker 1: clause and you can't move guys.
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  Speaker 2: And it seems that they have more of a say
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  Speaker 2: than anybody, any.
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  Speaker 1: Any league by a lot. Like the NFL doesn't have that.
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  Speaker 1: Like if, if this was the NHL, Quentin Nelson would
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  Speaker 1: have to approve the trade.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And they said, they just called them up and said
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  Speaker 1: the new GM, whoever that is. Cause Chris Ballard never
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  Speaker 1: got fired.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Said, Hey, you're getting traded to Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it. I'm out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But rest assured you can bank on this. However, it
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  Speaker 1: was done. Legally or legally, there were conversations between Seattle
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  Speaker 1: and probably the Nelson representatives saying, we want to make
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  Speaker 1: this move, but we're not doing it for one and done.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: We expect him to be here in the future. He's
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  Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract. We want to
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  Speaker 1: bring him back. The good news is you're quitting Nelson.
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  Speaker 1: Indianapolis is sinking like a ship right now. So what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? You're like, yeah, man, get me the
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  Speaker 1: hell out of here. I'm going where? Defending Super Bowl champions.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, and they did just beat the Chiefs, crushed them
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  Speaker 5: on Sunday Night Football. So it's not like he's coming
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  Speaker 5: here after two losses thinking like, oh, is this team
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  Speaker 5: the same team? No, this team just showed they might
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  Speaker 5: be the same team.
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  Speaker 1: Not in the least bit. I think if you're a
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks fan, my God, you've just got to be absolutely
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  Speaker 1: thrilled with what this guy does on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 1: You just have to be thrilled.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited to find out because I will admit I
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  Speaker 5: don't spend a lot of time watching Seahawks. guards during games.
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  Speaker 5: Even when I have red zone on, there's not a
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  Speaker 5: lot of time I'm spending watching offensive linemen. But I'm
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  Speaker 5: excited to have him on our team and then I'll
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: pay more attention because then you're watching the whole game.
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  Speaker 1: You're watching the whole game. But at the same time,
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: there are a handful... There's not a lot of offensive
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  Speaker 1: linemen you make an in-season trade for and you go, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: that just moved the needle. That changed it. Quentin Nelson's
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of those guys. And the Seahawks just did
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  Speaker 1: that today. So your thoughts, 49451 also on the Tacoma
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  Speaker 1: Dodge text line. That's the 49451. In addition to that, boom,
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  Speaker 1: we'll hear text messages as well. We're going to go
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: double today a little bit, a couple topics. It's a
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  Speaker 1: big radio show, huge radio show. You can do that
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  Speaker 1: with a big radio show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can. We're number three for a reason.
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  Speaker 1: We're number three. We're number three.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Out of seven. Slightly above top half, slightly above average.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: C's get degrees.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I always say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. All right.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we're going to talk a little college football.
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  Speaker 1: I was texting my, I was just, did you see
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  Speaker 1: all the stuff about, did you see all the stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Do you see all the stuff about Utah and Pat McAfee? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: He's very upset that they were not like, that they
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  Speaker 2: mocked him.
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  Speaker 1: If you watch the video on the Instagram, which was
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  Speaker 1: finally posted, it's the most benign Utah thing ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the things, Jerry Brewer, our great friend
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Brewer, I don't know if he's still on Weekly
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  Speaker 1: with Softie and Fame, but I know he was during
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  Speaker 1: the summer months. Jerry, the former Times columnist for The Athletic. Now,
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  Speaker 1: he wrote a great column in The Athletic about.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote something about the.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, college game day, kind of losing its way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what it used to be and what it is now.
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  Speaker 1: Now the numbers are good. People still watch it, you know, and, and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we just kind of look at those.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's college football as well. Hey, numbers are up.
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  Speaker 1: Numbers are good. Numbers are strong. What have you. So
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  Speaker 1: people are watching. That's good. Well, people in this country
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  Speaker 1: love football and the number one sport in this country,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not even close is the NFL number two.
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  Speaker 1: And frankly, it's probably not close is college football, especially
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  Speaker 1: when you look at cumulative numbers, like at any given
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  Speaker 1: time on a Saturday afternoon, you can have 3 million
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  Speaker 1: people watching one game and 5 million people watching another.
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  Speaker 1: And then you start sprinkling, you'll sprinkle around the end
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: of around college football and the USA network with a,
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: with a Boise state game's got another 1.5 million. Uh,
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: FS one's got another 500,000 ESPN, ESPN two, they got
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: to combine 3 million. All of a sudden you're at
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: 12 million people watching college football on a Saturday at
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: four o'clock in the afternoon on the West coast. So
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: the numbers are good because we love football and we
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: love the NFL. We love college football. And there's a,
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: there's a, Doesn't mean it's not broken. It doesn't mean
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: it's not broken. And I was thinking about this the
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: other day because watching games over the weekend, and I
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: watch a lot of college football. I've got a Heisman vote.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: I take that seriously. Even with hockey, I try to
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: get caught up on everything I can, watch as much
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: as I can, tape as many things as I can,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: especially the games that matter in that regard. And I'm
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of empty seats. And then I hear
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: from a lot of fans, not just my fans at Wazoo,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: but a lot of other fans, that, yeah, it's just
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: not the same. I don't really care about Minnesota or
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Michigan State or, you know, if I'm the Big 12,
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: do I really care about, you know, Texas Tech or, geez,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: we're playing West Virginia or SMU? Like, it just doesn't,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: it's not the same.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: And then you look and see the empty seats across
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: the country. Not always, because a lot of the big
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: games I'm talking about, yeah, Indiana's going to pack the
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: place when Ohio State rolls into town, right? That's going
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: The big house is always packed. Ohio State's always packed.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: You're a Husky fan, you know that's not the case
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: this year. A lot of empty seats. Pullman, a lot
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: of empty seats. Oregon State's packed.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Because they're winning.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Last year, there was about five people in the stands.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Five people. I'm just picturing it.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: It was close.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: UCLA is a top 10 team and could be going
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: to the college football playoff.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: I watched a good chunk of the Michigan State game. Now,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl is a hard, hard one to look
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: at because with Michigan State... or I mean with the
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Rose Bowl, it's 105,000 seats.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: But.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: It's also 30 minutes away from campus.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: And it's 30 minutes away from campus. So they always
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: struggle anyway. But a game against a conference rival in building,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: if they had 20,000, I'd be shocked. Stanford's always had
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: a hard time drawing, even more so now. I don't
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: know if you saw the Stanford game the other night.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: It was empty. Empty. Because there's no bond that ties
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: these teams together. And I'm going to be the first
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: to admit, I was hoping without hope for this new Pac-12.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Part of this, our team sucks. They're just awful.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Just like the frankness.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: They're awful. They're hard to watch. They're not entertaining. There's
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: nothing compelling about them. And oh, by the way, we
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: don't watch players develop anymore.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: And if you do have a good player, you go,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: like if I'm Washington right now, I'm like, okay, well,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I don't even care about DeMond versus Elijah Brown. I
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: care about next year. I'd kind of want Elijah Brown
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: not to play.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Because you don't want him to get hurt. Or you
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: don't want him to get stolen.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: He'll go to his third school.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Look at that dude.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: You think Kurt Cignetti couldn't use Elijah Brown right now?
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Because Josh Hoover's not very good.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: No, he's not.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: And they're winning with him, still.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: And Elijah Brown, they wouldn't be... I almost said something
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: bad word there. They wouldn't be messing around with Michigan.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: It's just broken. So, I mean, Kim Grenell's going to
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: join us next. I want to see if he shares
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: that same thought. Because he's a diehard Husky.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: A condescending Husky to me.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as he should be.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Which I love with him. But I want to talk
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: to him about that, too.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Like, is it fun to go to Rutgers as opposed
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: to Tempe?
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: You had to make the deal. Don't text me and say,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I understand that.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you understand why it happened.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it's not broken. Right. And oh, by the way,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: do you guys all like paying for players?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: It's working out really well.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: CX made a trade. Quentin Nelson, if you're a good 12,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: you will donate right now and help pay his salary.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: We want to keep him around.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Can you think about how broken that is?
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, you know what? That's probably the
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: next thing that'll happen in college football.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: We have guys that decide, I'm going to enter the
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: transfer portal or I'm going to sit out for the
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: rest of the year so that I can enter.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: But Soon they'll just trade mid-season.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: We all thought that was what Jesse Legree was going
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: In the city-state.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Which would have been weird.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Seahawks trade for Quinton Nelson. We'll get to that as well.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: A bunch more today. We've got a lot to discuss. 49451.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to Kim Reynolds next.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: We're back.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Welcome in. Again, big news. Seahawks training for Quentin Nelson.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: We'll get more on that in a little bit. Seahawks,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: by the way, do not have a media availability until Thursday.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: The normal Wednesday one pushed back because of Monday Night Football.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: We won't hear anything from the Seahawks more than likely
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: until Thursday. Good for them. They can get Quentin Nelson
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: in the building. He's cramming for exams right now.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: He's got a lot of learning to do.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: We'll get more on that a little bit later on.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Kim Grenell joins us right now. Dogman.com. I said, you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: know what? I said, I want to get this. How
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: did I describe Kim last segment?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: That he gives you a hard.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I said, I like Kim. I like him on. He's,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you know, he's condescending towards me, but I like that.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: That's okay. I can deal with it because we have
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: good conversations. How are you, man?
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: I'm never condescending towards you except that what you want
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: to stop by the classic on.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: The way home. Don't just don't.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I know. I don't stop by the class. You tell
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: me no, really?
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: No, no. Wow. Okay. All right.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Softy.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to make a trip there. Softy and
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I are going to do a road trip together there. No,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you say no, huh?
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. We'll see. Hey, I want to get,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I want, I'm bringing this up with, with Alex Brink
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and him, Crystal Bruce later. And instead of just going
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: through games and like we do every week, I, As
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: a college football fan, I'm looking around, and with the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: context and the preface of we all know that the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: moves that the four schools from the Pac-12 had to
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: do to go to the Big Ten, well, two of
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: them did it, and then everybody else had to kind
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: of follow suit and just jump on for a lifeboat.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: But with half shares and everything else, that's one thing.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: The money's one thing. But I would ask you, how
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: has the Big Ten been so far?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Road trips have been interesting. Like one guy told me
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: when we were at the championship game and just getting
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: into the Big Ten, he said all of these Big
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Ten road trips are going to be fun. once it
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: just seems like all of them you have to drive
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: you have to fly somewhere to drive somewhere but with
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that being said the passion in the big 10 when
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: you go to a purdue like we were last week
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: and it was sold out and it was pretty crazy
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: in there and uh ohio state michigan penn state 110
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: 000 people you know that's another thing penn state i
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: don't know if you've ever been there ian penn state
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: makes Pullman look like a suburb.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: It is absolutely in the middle of nowhere.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, you fly into, you fly into Pittsburgh. That's
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: the closest place of which you want to go to Harrisburg,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: which is still an hour and a half out.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: You have to change planes, but.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: The drive from Pittsburgh to state college, I'm sure you've
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: seen the Sopranos, you know, the woods where they, you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: the woods where they bury the bodies.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: That's what it looks like the whole way up there.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: The whole way.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Nice. It's been interesting.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: And I, you know, I told you that, You know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: going to Basketball Media Day the past couple of years
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: and going to football media the last couple of years,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: these West Coast schools, you know, the Big Ten schools
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: kind of look at you like you're the new guy
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: in high school.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Who are you? Where'd you come from? Oh, over there,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: back of the line.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: So I don't think that the Pac-12 schools have been
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: fully accepted by those in the Big Ten. And, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the time change difference, you know, doesn't help at all either.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: But it's been interesting.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I'll say that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: There's 10 schools in the Big Ten right now that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: their attendance is down from a year ago. And there
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: are five of those, I believe, that are down more
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: than single digits, that are double digit down. And I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's the lack of true rivalries that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: exist anymore. If you're really good, you don't care, i.e. Indiana.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: They're up, obviously. And they're playing to capacity and then some.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Oregon is actually down a little bit, and they're going
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to really go down, I think, in the next couple
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of weeks. What's the biggest problem in your mind as
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: someone that covers this sport a lot? What's the biggest
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: problem in your mind, not just Big Ten, but just
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: with college sports right now as a whole?
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Lack of continuity, lack of being able to relate to
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of the players when the roster's turning over
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: like it is. Actually, I'm at the scene of the
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: crime from Sunday where Washington State defeated the Huskies on
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Sunday in an exhibition game, but They've got, what, 11,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: 12 players that are new. Players don't even know who
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: they are. And, you know, that lack of connection there,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I think, really hurts. Just some of the, I think
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing, the lack of a connection. But
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: on the other hand, it used to be if you
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: lost one game, You're out of it. A lot more
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: teams are still in it after one loss, after two loss,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: and even three loss. You're still in the game. And
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: when you take a look at the TV ratings for
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: last year's playoff, they were through the roof. You know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: it's kind of give and take. I think as long
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: as your team is doing well, you know, the attendance
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: is going to be good. Washington's not having a great year,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: but they're still averaging 64,000 people a game so far
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: this year. So I think it's good on one hand,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: not so good on the other. I really like, I mean,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: you remember this, Ian, if you lost one game, you
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: were just out of it. You're just completely out of it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: And that's not true anymore.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. which is true. I think, and then everyone's got
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: a different mindset too, about what a successful season is.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: That's kind of the other part, right? Like it's, it's
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, okay, well, I mean, we're not going
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to play for a national championship. We probably never were
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: going to play for a national championship, but we're going
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to play for a Rose bowl or we're going to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: play for a holiday bowl. We're going to play for this.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Those days obviously are long gone and probably never to return,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: especially with, you know, 24 team playoff and their access changes.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And you can make arguments, you know, there's people say, well,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: it ruins a regular season. Like my buddy, Stuart Mandel,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: there's others that say it helps. because you're still in
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: it in November when normally in the past you wouldn't
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: be in it. I guess the thing I wonder is
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: roster continuity is one thing. I think that has really hurt.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And I think that's hurt the passion for most. Again,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: not everybody. There's a lot of schools across the country
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that are doing just fine. But I think there's a
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: lot of other schools. You just mentioned basketball. Like, you
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: just have no clue. Like, that exhibition game with Wazoo
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: in Washington, I looked at the box score late, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I love college basketball. I'm like, who? Outside of LaJuan
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Watts that's there, that's gone now his fourth school, right? Eastern, Wazoo,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Washington. Like, I don't know who those guys are. Like,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: it's really strange. And I think my biggest thing, and
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I'd love to get your thoughts on this. You mentioned
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: roster continuity. Neuheisel talked about it today a little bit
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: as well. The thing I just can't stand, I think
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I'll never be able to wrap my arms around is this.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I just hate the fact that in college football, college athletics,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: college basketball, hell, you can go high-level non-revenue sports. You
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: as a fan are being asked to pay for a salary.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: We joked about it earlier. Can you imagine Seahawks trade
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: for Quentin Nelson and the Seahawks say, well, if you're
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: a good 12, you've got to help pay Quentin Nelson's salary.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I cannot wrap my arms around that, but yet that's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: where we are right now, Kim.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Well, the other interesting thing is, you know, with Washington,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Oregon receiving half shares, but then you have a school
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: like Oregon who's making up that difference because they have
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Phil Knight, you know, funding that. Washington doesn't have a
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Phil Knight. And then you take a look at Utah,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: and that's a school to really keep an eye on.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: They sold out to private equity to the tune of
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: $ 500 million. And I heard you talking a little bit
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: about that Pat McAfee being upset, you know, with their
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: social media team. Well, guess who has an interest in
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: that social media team? Private equity. You think they're happy
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: about that? That's great publicity for them. So keep an
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: eye on that. LSU's got some private equity money, it
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: sounds like too. And you know this as well as
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I do. And that's one of the things that concerns
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: me about the new Seahawk ownership with the private equity.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: They're not gifting money like Phil Knight. They're expecting a return. So,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: you know, it's one thing, you know, where's all this going?
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: We've got the.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Save College Sports Act that's passed the Senate. But once
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: it goes to the House of Representatives, if it passes,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: what else is added to it and what does it
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: look like? And that's what it sounds like Washington is
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: hanging their hat on is that passing.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: But what is what's it going to look like?
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And, you know, the other thing is that they're going
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: to limit one transfer.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: What do you do with a player where he can't
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: transfer again and go, no, we're only going to pay
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: you half of what you want. You can't transfer. So
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of things to be worked out. It's
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: interesting times.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of chaos right now.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Do you, I'll wrap it up with this. Kim Grinnell's dog, man.com.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Do you feel, and I guess this is hard because
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of it's based on wins and losses, but
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: even going into a seat, going into a season and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: basketball may be the best example that you just brought up.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But going, you know, like, like, do you feel as
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: if there is still, the same passion top to bottom
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: by the fan base that there always has been? Or
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: do you think the fact that we don't know who
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the players are, we don't know who's coming, who's going,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: fans stressed out? Like I just mentioned earlier, if you're Washington,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I played Amon Williams all day.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: You know why?
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Not because of the NIL. Elijah Brown, do you think
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Kirk Segnetti couldn't use Elijah Brown right now? Like, like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, right. Like, like you worry about who you're
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: going to lose every year. You don't want to lose guys. That's,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I just wondered if you feel, cause you guys have subscribers.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Do you still feel the same passion that you did three,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: four years ago?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: When they're winning. I mean, when Kalen was here, absolutely. Right.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: But going through the year where they had to transfer
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: over to Jed Fish, yeah, we definitely lost some momentum.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: And when the team going into the season, I think
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: there was a lot of passion and some of that's lost.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: But, you know, also, we're in a big city.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: The competition for the sports dollar here is different than
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: it is in Iowa City, than it is in Lincoln, Nebraska,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: than it is in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of competition for that sports dollar, not
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: only from the fan, but corporate sponsors as well.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: I'm here in Washington. They just aren't getting the corporate
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: money as they once were. If you're a corporation, you
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: want to invest in the Mariners, Washington, Seahawks. Where are
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: you going to spend those corporate dollars? But again, I
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: think in Midwest schools where that's the only game in town.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right. I think the passion is there.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Even where Danny Sprinkle came from in Utah at Utah state,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: you talk Iowa state where, uh, you know, they sell
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: out every game, but I think a lot of it
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: has to do with the market and the teams that
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: have always drawn well are still drawing well. And schools
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: like Washington, USC, UCLA, where they have a little bit
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: more of a fickle fan base.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I think you're seeing more and more of that.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: And maybe there's a little bit more where we're at
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: that you're seeing, but if you go back to some
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: of these other schools, uh, I think every bit as
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: much passion.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: That maybe some stabilization will come at some point with
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: whatever decisions are made, whether it be by Congress or elsewhere. And, and, Yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I get the thing with the kids wanting to transfer,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: but my God, there's no reason you should be playing
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: at three schools in three years or four schools in
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: four years. I mean, I don't think we need to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: go back to the dark days of you can't transfer
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: in conference or you lose two years of eligibility, whatever
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the old Pac-10 rule was or what have you. But man,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: make a decision. No other sport, Kim, has unlimited free agency.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: You know, where you can just go.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Coaches as well.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: You don't go out and coach an NFL coach.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. You do college football.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Well, that's how you– honestly, that should be an easy fix.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: That should be the easiest fix of all where every
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: conference just comes together, whether you call it collusion or not.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Just say, look, you can't poach a coach, especially in season.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Like if a coach is under contract, he's under contract,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the buyouts are a joke. That does nothing, right? And that's,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you know, when people say, well, the coaches can go anywhere. Yeah,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: they can. There's a buyout. It doesn't matter. We've always
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: joked about that. Mike McDonald had a great year. Jerry
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Jones just offered him a zillion dollars because the Seahawks
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: were for sale and there's nobody to mine the store.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: That doesn't happen in any other sport.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: It happens.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: No.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's wild.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Interesting times in college sports for sure. You know, just
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: one other thing. Take a look at the price for
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: volleyball tickets for Nebraska-Washington.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: It's insane.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Listen, Nebraska people, they don't have another game in town.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Tickets are going for $ 300 and $ 400. I think Nebraska
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: fans bought out Heck Ed for Washington-Nebraska volleyball in November.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: When is that? Oh, November? Coming up in November?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Sometime in November, yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: November's crazy for volleyball, aren't they? Yeah, they play the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: outdoor games and all that kind of stuff. They play
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: in the stadium. Go do your job. I appreciate you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: coming on, and I'll take your advice on the Classic.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I'll pass it along to Softy. We'll see if we
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: adhere to it or not.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I love it. See you, buddy.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Take care. Kim Reynolds from Dogman.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Good stuff.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Good conversation there. We'll come back and wrap up first hour.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: A lot more to get to, including the Quinton Nelson
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: trade with the Seahawks. All coming up in 93.3 KJR FM.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: We'll get back to the Quinton Nelson trade coming up
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: here at the top of the hour. 49451 on the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Tacoma Dodge text. Ashley, it's your pick today in Factor Fiction.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: Were you watching that game last night and thinking, oh,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: we should have just gone?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I would have gone Cowboys.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I would have, too.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like, we should have just chased
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: it and taken the risk.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I would have.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I hate being predictable because I heard the Greg Bell,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Jessamyn McIntyre experience talking about it earlier going, oh, he
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: didn't always chase this. He chased. I didn't chase this week, and.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Now I should.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: No, we were regretting we didn't chase. Although I did
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: see that the morning show took a loss. They went
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: under 44. That was almost over at halftime, actually.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, oh, that ain't going to stink.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were one score away from that in the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: third quarter, and it got blown by pretty quick. Anders
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: took Kansas City minus one and a half at Denver
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: this morning.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Titans plus 10 over Cincy was Jess's pick today.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, so Denver's now a one and a half point underdog.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Okay. At home.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: At home, too.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Softie took Vegas plus one and a half against the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Jets yesterday. So we got a pick today with you.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I took Minnesota plus three yesterday at Detroit. Minnesota's still undefeated.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Their defense is just so good.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: And Dan Campbell has a tendency to screw things up.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: He does.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: He's kind of like Dan Wilson. Maybe it's a Dan thing.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Just overthink.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: That was our collaboration, though, yesterday. But I'll take the L.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: No, you take the W and the L. Collab is fine.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: You're the one that says it. You put your name
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: on the line.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I did put my name on the line with that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: My name on the line is not done all this year.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to Alex and MK coming up. Our weekly
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Coug visit coming up at 1.20 today. Just looking through,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I went through with Kim the attendance figures for the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Big Ten and told you there's 10 teams that are
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: going backwards this year in terms of attendance, some in
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: double digits, some just like in the five, 6% range, which,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: you know, you can probably live with that. It's interesting,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the new PAC 12, because these are all schools that
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: are new to the conference, but just based on what
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: they did last year, Boise State's up, Colorado State's up
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: big and they're crappy. Fresno State's up, Oregon State's, well,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: of course they're up almost 20% because last year nobody
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: went and this year they're good.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're winning.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: San Diego State's down. and they thought they'd be good
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: this year having a disappointing season, but they're only down
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: less than 1%. Texas State is up slightly. Utah State's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: up significantly. They're up almost 15%. Surprising, actually. Well, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: they're not good, but I think back to that Friday game,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that probably helped them. They sold out that Friday game
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: against Wazoo. Okay, that would help, yeah. They played the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Friday that, I think BYU also played that Friday because
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: they had the church conference, so. The Utah schools every year,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: if they have home games, there's one weekend they play
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: on Fridays because they get some church stuff going on Saturday, Sunday.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of a big game for whoever's playing.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I think BYU was playing at home that night, forget
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: against who, and then Utah State. But that helped them
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: a lot, but they're up. But you know what? They're
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: up because they didn't like the Mountain West. And then
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Wazoo's down. Wazoo's not down as much as I thought
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: they would be, but they're down about 2%, but it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: going to probably keep going down. So it's interesting. The
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: new conference is doing well, right? The new conference is
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: doing well. Wyoming's down big. UTEP's, I'm looking at the
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Mountain West, down big. North Dakota State's up, which is
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: weird because I thought they were played at capacity anyway.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But they're up. Maybe they increased capacity. New Mexico is up.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: They're the one. We'll talk about that with Alex. New
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Mexico's up because Jason Eck's a great coach, and they're
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: excited about football down there. Usually it's just a basketball school.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Nevada's up. Hawaii's down. Air Force is no change. So
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it depends on the school. You look across the country. And,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you know, and I brought this up only because college
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: football is still great. It's fun. I myself have a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: great passion and interest of college football as a whole.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I've lost it from my school. I don't have what
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I used to. And that, yes, part of it's wins
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and losses.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Totally.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Totally. Uh, part of it's the last two years being
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: an exhibition schedule and they were playing this weird, you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: there's nothing to play for.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Schedule with Oregon state twice.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And, and you're like, and there's no conference title. You're just,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: you're playing as an independent, unless you're Notre Dame, who cares?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Um, and then, but part of it is I just,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I miss the PAC 12.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I do too.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: And I look out and I maybe winning will help.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe that cures all ills for the Huskies who are
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: down in attendance and slightly right now by about 6%,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: but that could go down even more depending on how
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: things go. Oregon's going to go down, but their expectations
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: are different and so forth. But I just, I think
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: there's some things, we're not going back. We're not, there's
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: no realignment coming. This is what we're going to have
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: for a while. I get all that. I think it's
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: just the term donor fatigue kicks in because you can't
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: just be a college football fan anymore. You're and inherently
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem to make sense.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: And this is the first year we have not had
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Husky season tickets, and it's not a knock on the
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Huskies at all, but when you have a kid who's
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: playing travel sports, you're missing most of the things, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: then you're thinking, well, why am I paying for something?
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm going to one or two games a year.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: But if they were two things, maybe even take the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: conference out, one thing. Okay. If Kalen was still here,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and you went into the season with huge expectations, Like realistic, like, Hey, we're,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we're right there. And you're looking, you're 17th in the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: country coming in, whatever.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: But if you went in all summer, you're this Washington's
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a top 10 team, top five team, maybe going into
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the season. Would you have rethought that?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Because I would have been able to sell
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: them when I couldn't go.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: But that's part of the problem is that, yeah, you're
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: just eating the money on all.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: The, there's no secondary market.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: So it's either you just give them to someone else
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: or you just, they just go empty.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: So we just gave them away all the time.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hard. We'll get your thoughts on that a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: little bit later on. All right, more on Quentin Nelson. Seahawks,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: huge trait. They pick up arguably the best guard in
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: football to help their running game, their pass blocking, their
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: overall offense. We'll talk about it next.