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Preserving the Pulse of Motorsports: IMRRC at 25 Years · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  BreakFix podcast is all about capturing the living history of people from
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  all over the autosphere, from wrench turners and racers to artists, authors,
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  designers, and everything in between.
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  Our goal is to inspire a new generation of petrolheads that
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  wonder, how did they get that job?
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  Or become that person.
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  The road to success is paved by all of us, because everyone has a story.
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  The International Motor Racing Research Center, or IMRRC for short,
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  collects, shares, and preserves the history of motorsports, spanning
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  continents, eras, and race series.
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  The Watkins Glen based IMRRC's collection embodies the speed, drama, and camaraderie
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  of amateur as well as professional motor racing throughout the world.
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  For 25 years, the Center has welcomed serious researchers and the casual
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  fans alike to share stories of race drivers, race series, and race cars
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  captured on their shelves and walls.
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  We were very fortunate to speak with the IMRRC during our first season of
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  Break Fix, where Kip and Rick shared all sorts of stories about the Glenn,
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  and we've been working with them closely over the last three years.
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  But this time, we want to welcome IMRRC Director Mark Steigerwald to celebrate
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  the Center's 25th Anniversary with us.
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  So welcome to the show, Mark.
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  Thanks, Eric.
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  Glad to be here.
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  So before we dive into the center on a whole new level in the last
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  25 years, retrospective and what's coming, let's introduce our listeners
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  to you, Mark, the petrol head.
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  Tell us about your automotive and motorsports enthusiast past.
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  How did you get involved in all this?
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  Well, I guess it depends on how far I want to go back.
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  When I was in graduate school at Syracuse University, I was pursuing a master's
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  in library and information science.
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  And it was sort of an interesting period.
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  It was the late 90s.
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  Technology was really booming.
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  All of my colleagues, my professors, encouraged me to get
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  into some sort of Areas such as, uh, over corporate libraries or
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  other information science areas.
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  And I needed an internship and I was at the track, like any true motorsport
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  enthusiast that was within driving distance of Watkins Lennon International.
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  And I heard over the PA system that a library was opening in Watkins Lennon.
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  I thought, well, how fortuitous I have to investigate that.
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  So I knocked on the door of the public library.
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  The IMRRC is essentially a wing to the public library in Watkins Glen.
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  And I inquired about an internship, talked to the director at the time.
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  And she said, well, certainly, however, we're just getting set up.
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  She took me next door and there was a pile of cardboard boxes and what became
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  the director's office and an Allard J2 on the floor and not much else.
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  Gradually over time, I met the incoming director of the research center.
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  He agreed to take me under his wing.
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  We formed an internship program for me.
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  Fortunately, I never left.
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  I plan on staying for a three month internship and I stayed for eight years.
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  During that period, we had a lot of challenges, but we had a lot of
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  growth and we had a lot of support from a very interested community.
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  Many of them race fans, but there were also academics that elevated
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  motorsport history in a way that I always hoped from the beginning.
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  Motorsport as a legitimate study for scholarship really made sense to me.
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  And fortunately, it wasn't really a hard selling point.
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  25 years later, we're still helping authors with books.
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  We're helping the curious of all age groups and just a
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  casual browser, as well as.
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  Before I mentioned author, even a few filmmakers out there too.
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  So it was great to find work for that initial eight years during that eight
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  year period, you actually evolved from intern to director at some point.
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  So take us on that journey.
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  How did that happen?
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  Our core collection was our library.
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  So library migrated in a smaller form from the public library
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  and it grew by leaps and bounds.
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  So we accepted donations of.
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  Motorsport and general automotive books, and we quickly filled our shelves.
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  So my degree was sort of a natural fit there.
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  Meanwhile, we were starting to acquire manuscript materials,
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  personal papers, diaries, photo collections, film collections, all
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  sorts of materials that document.
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  Motorsport that you would expect.
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  I think what we didn't expect was a sheer volume of material that
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  came as well as the quality too.
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  So all this material had to be cataloged, had to be organized.
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  We had a very small staff, a couple of volunteers and myself, as
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  well as the director at the time.
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  Our services grew as did our complexity and our professionalism.
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  As I mentioned, always a challenge, but always enjoyable.
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  And we had great community support, both local support, as well as
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  motorsport community in general.
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  We have built in events around the motorsport calendar for
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  walking with an international.
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  So we would get a great influx of people walking through
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  the doors on race weekends.
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  They always wanted to see what car we had on display or to make
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  a donation or just to catch up.
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  We've always had that support since pretty much since day one.
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  So when did the archival part come into play?
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  How did the partnership with SCCA form?
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  Well, that was after I had initially left.
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  That was a great partnership and a great shot in the arm for the
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  IMRRC from the standpoint of an endorsement from a sanctioning body.
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  We are the caretaker of the SCCA archives.
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  Most organizations, even some corporate entities, they don't necessarily have the
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  resources to manage their own archive.
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  It takes someone special to have an eye and an understanding of how important
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  an archive is to any organization.
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  And the SCCA Foundation had that connection in mind with us.
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  It was sort of a natural progression.
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  We have a display case in the center that recognizes SCCA accomplishments.
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  That was perhaps the genesis of that idea, but we've always had close
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  relationships with the SCCA project.
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  Now that I essentially adopted a year or so ago, managed by our
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  head archivist, Jenny Ambrose.
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  It is really a fairly large undertaking.
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  We're certainly up to the challenge.
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  It's a lot of material.
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  I believe, according to our research assistants, we are up to the letter C in
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  the alphabet going through driver's files.
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  And that's, I believe, 40 record boxes just from A to C so far.
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  Massive amount of material in a collection that's actually
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  getting used quite regularly.
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  I believe about 50 percent of our research inquiries are centered
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  around that material currently, so it's gratifying all the way around.
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  And the Foundation is, as I said, a great partner in this
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  and a supporter of the program.
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  Absolutely.
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  And we've leveraged the center as well ourselves for researching guests on
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  our show, especially for things like the golden era of sports car racing,
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  where I've called up and said, Hey, do you have a profile on so and so?
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  And it's not necessarily all SCCA material.
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  This was Camel GT M sub depending on what you're looking for.
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  To your point, if you're writing a book or putting a movie together in
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  our case, putting together podcast episodes, interviewing these drivers,
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  it's a wealth of information.
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  And it came super fast too.
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  I was surprised by the turnaround time.
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  So I can't say enough good things about.
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  Quality of the material we're getting back and just the
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  ability to be able to access it.
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  I don't think you can get it pretty much anywhere else.
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  I'm glad to hear that.
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  We hope to leverage this success with other sanctioning bodies in the future.
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  So yeah, a great success story for us.
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  Continuing with your journey, you hinted a little bit that you
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  haven't always been at the center.
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  So you left.
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  And then came back.
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  So what did you do and what brought you back?
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  Well, I did make a career change.
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  I was married at the time and I went to work for Cornell university.
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  What is referred to as a frontline fundraiser, raising money,
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  working with alumni, really gratifying work, very interesting.
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  And I think even from the beginning, the wheels were turning in my head.
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  That some of the concepts I was learning and appreciating the
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  fundraising front could work for some sort of endeavor, such as the IMRRC.
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  I did spend a couple of years briefly at the California
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  Automobile Museum in Sacramento.
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  And that was sort of the litmus test for this.
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  As everyone says, then COVID hit.
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  So sort of sidelined some plans there.
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  During that period, I did find out about the IMRRC's seeking a director.
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  Once again, I applied.
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  Gratefully, I was chosen for the position.
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  A lot had changed in over the years.
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  The mission had stayed intact, but the level of professionalism
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  had certainly gone up.
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  And I was pleased and proud and glad to be back.
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  Initial eight years I was there at the center was a formative
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  period for our collections.
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  A lot of relationships were really established back during that time,
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  but are still in place currently.
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  Meanwhile, collections have grown, awareness has grown
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  among the Motorsport community.
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  So we hope to just continue that upward trend.
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  So you talked about building relationships.
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  There's a special one within the halls of the IMRRC.
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  I know you're very close with the Artsinger family.
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  So do you want to talk about your relationship with
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  Michael and Duke and the rest?
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  Yes.
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  So back when I had begun, I was fortunate to meet Gene Argesinger,
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  who was one of the key players in the formation of the IMRRC.
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  Gene was a proponent of the public library and the collection as well as racing
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  by virtue of her relationship with her husband, Cameron, the founder of post
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  World War II road racing in America.
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  But libraries were Gene's thing.
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  And Gene, in addition to John Saunders, had this idea to acknowledge racing's
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  history, uh, this is back in 1998 anniversary, in an innovative way, not
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  merely just a museum, but an archive in the library that focused on motorsport.
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  It was through many conversations I had with Jean at the time.
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  She really encouraged me to sort of run wild, in a sense, with the concept
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  of the IMRRC, apply professionalism, apply whatever cutting edge, state
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  of the art procedures were going on in library science at the time,
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  such as digitization, scanning of photos, and cataloging our books.
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  Certainly glad to do the work and work with Jean and then I gradually met
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  most of the Argettsinger family and Cameron also served as our chairman at
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  the time for a short time too towards the end of my initial eight years.
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  Without the Argettsinger family, I think that was a sort of a bonding
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  force for me to stay as long as I did.
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  Michael specifically was essentially our chief marketing officer,
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  great supporter of the center.
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  He also had his day job, but then as he became an author, he was always fortunate
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  to work on his book projects with him, working on images, occasionally editing.
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  It was always enjoyable working with him as well.
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  What's really special about the Argettsinger family, and you kind of
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  hinted to it, was talking about the 50th anniversary of Watkins Glen in 1998.
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  They're one of the founding families of sports car racing in the United
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  States because it's centered Grounded and born there in Watkins Glen.
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  We talked about that on the original episode with Kip and Rick.
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  Watkins Glen is a special place and the IMRC is just a part of that whole story.
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  So it's pretty incredible.
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  Oh, no, exactly.
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  A famous family and deceit within Watkins Glen, post war road racing
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  on the streets, on public roads.
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  An interim circuit, and then the current circuit location.
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  And then the series, we had NASCAR early on 65.
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  And then again, obviously in 88 and then current times
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  and form the one for a spell.
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  Pretty much it's a who's who of racing for several decades.
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  And that legacy continues.
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  A lot of things changed during COVID.
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  And you mentioned that things changed.
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  Let's remind people of what was and what's coming back and how COVID changed
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  the way the center is doing business today and what's transpired over the
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  last three years since that all took off.
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  Attending a lot more Zoom meetings, certainly even at the board level, so
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  that's not going away anytime soon.
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  Our board is scattered around the country anyway.
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  The work.
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  Sort of continues.
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  I mean, if you think about research services, we've always provided
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  research services essentially worldwide by virtual of our service model.
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  That's remote.
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  You know, we, we did have to shutter some of our programming.
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  Our center conversations will come back stronger and 23 for certain
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  certainly on the fundraising side.
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  The model changed somewhat.
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  The various government programs, the PPP program that was in place
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  certainly helped us out as well, too.
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  And then going forward, I think people are so anxious to do things in person.
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  And then, you know, we've gradually, our numbers have gone up since COVID
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  as we've opened our doors and we've seen an influx of people traveling and
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  seeking the center as a destination.
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  So you mentioned the center conversations, a lot of people that are familiar with
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  the center know exactly what that is, but for those that don't, what are those
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  about and what do they look like in 23?
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  The center conversations were born out of a desire to showcase some of
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  the figures in motorsport that have been influential over the years,
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  they've been local and they've been.
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  National or international.
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  And we've been fortunate to have some great speakers.
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  We had off the top of my head, I can remember Dr.
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  Fred Simeone, for example, I can remember Lynn St.
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  James, so many others.
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  And then our, our local drivers, for example, and we focused on several
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  different aspects of racing history.
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  So from the business side, from the driver standpoint, from the crew
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  chief standpoint, these are all archived at the center currently,
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  these are always free of charge.
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  Occasionally we had freshmen's for example, and our
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  crowds would vary in size.
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  You were up and close.
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  And personal with a motorsport personality and intimate way that it's rarely
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  encountered, you know, now it's podcast, but you know, this series continues.
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  We're launching a schedule and I believe we've got four speakers set up for
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  2023 hour, but we'll probably backfill with additional speakers as well.
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  And then there is the symposium, the big one.
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  It's sort of like put all the conversations together
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  in one three day event.
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  Let's talk about.
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  The symposium new and improved starting in 22 going forward.
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  What's the symposium all about?
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  Why should people come out and check it out and how is it going
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  to grow next year and beyond?
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  This was my first go around last November.
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  And as you know, you played an integral part in our success and our growth.
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  last November.
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  So the symposium is an international gathering of speakers and
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  participants as well, too.
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  Again, free and open to the public on a number of motorsport topics.
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  So this elevates the center conversations to the true scholarly level.
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  We had some great subject matter last year, wonderful topics, a range that would
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  appeal to any motorsport enthusiast and an opportunity for Q and A from an audience.
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  And this year, even live streaming, we hope to continue that again this year,
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  I'm sure we'll have another great slate of speakers as well as growing our audience.
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  We have a partner in all of this, and that's the Society of Audubon Historians.
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  Without them, we could not do what we do.
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  The SAH has a...
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  Long and storied history of pulling together similar types
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  of symposia across the country.
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  So we have a great partner in the SAH and now the GTM we're doing great as well too.
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  So again, we've elevated our Senate conversations to a scholarly level.
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  And Motorsport deserves no end of topics from 30s era racing, any sort of pre
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  war topic that you can think of all the way up through current e racing.
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  That's right.
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  And I'm glad you brought up the SAH.
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  I'm a member of the Society of Automotive Historians myself.
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  I've been working with them, you know, since the symposium, we got some
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  ideas brewing and things like that.
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  And obviously we have our co branded Co sponsored content by both the
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  IMRC and the SAH that we're replaying through break fix throughout the year.
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  So if you weren't at the symposium, you didn't see the YouTube or the
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  Twitch live stream, you can actually catch these as episodes throughout
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  the year, continuing into next year.
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  So thank you.
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  Fantastic stuff.
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  And I look forward to, you know, continuing to work with you guys on
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  this because it's not only the living history, but it's also the past.
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  There's a lot of things in subjects and topics that people are interested in
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  that there's this wealth of knowledge out there and it's getting it in front of
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  people that's really, really important.
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  I'm glad you are able to facilitate this through the symposium
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  and the center conversations.
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  Oh, exactly.
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  And we're able to capitalize on current topics too.
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  I mean, women in motor sports has been fairly common topic in some sense over
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  the past few years, but I think we've just scratched the surface of some of
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  the pioneers, especially pre war more and more of these stories and these,
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  these women are coming to the forefront.
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  In terms of their exploits.
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  So it's really gratifying to see this level of scholarship applied to
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  that subject specifically, since you brought a lot of fundraising techniques
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  back to the IMRC during your hiatus, let's talk about the annual raffle.
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  How does that work?
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  Why is it important?
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  How do you guys select the car that you're raffling off?
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  Maybe what's the next pick?
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  If you can reveal that little spoiler.
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  As a 501 C 3, we essentially raise all of our own operational funding.
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  The core of that is a, an annual membership campaign.
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  We're very fortunate this year.
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  We will have Brian Redmond as our sponsorship chair.
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  We always choose a sponsorship chair that helps to sort of spread the message to
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  a group indicating how important it is for our work to continue and how it can.
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  continues with the support of fans like them.
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  We have a great campaign at the beginning of the year that helps to launch a
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  theme for us throughout the year.
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  This year, it's our anniversary.
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  So, you know, we're fortunate to have that sort of hook and complimenting
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  our membership is our sweepstakes.
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  That's something that began as, as a raffle car, straight up raffle, a
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  sweepstakes model is slightly different, wherein there's really no limit.
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  Um, so called ticket sales, uh, we've had a C8 Corvette for the past two years,
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  quite successful this year, quite certain of what we'll have in a launch shortly.
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  Again, uh, an important component for our fundraising.
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  And again, C8 Corvettes have been very popular for us and
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  we've had other cars in the past.
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  We've had vintage Porsches and Ferraris.
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  So, uh, always something interesting that gets our audience's attention.
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  Let's talk about the 25th anniversary celebration.
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  What have you got in mind?
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  Is it going to be a big party?
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  You got something locked down?
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  Well, officially we will have a party that we're still playing the
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  elements together for September 28th.
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  We're choosing that date because it's a Saturday.
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  It'll be the spiritual anniversary for the very first Grand Prix in 1948.
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  For Watkins Glen that also dovetails with the 75th anniversary
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  of racing into Watkins Glen.
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  That's our somewhat arbitrary date to celebrate, but throughout the year,
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  we will pick other opportunities to promote our own history.
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  We've had several of our fans and supporters come forward congratulating
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  us on 25 years already, so we're grateful for that and some are being extra
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  generous with their annual membership.
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  So we, we certainly appreciate that.
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  If you're interested in going to the 25th anniversary celebration of the IMRRC,
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  look no further than racingarchives.
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  org.
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  All the details should be up on the website shortly.
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  But this is also a big year for motorsports too.
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  I don't want to eclipse your celebration or the 75th of the Glen,
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  but it is the 100th anniversary of the first running of Le Mans.
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  So any thoughts on that, Mark, as a sports car fan?
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  From a personal standpoint, Lama is an incredibly important event
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  and certainly from the manufacturer standpoint, but it's world renowned.
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  It's the race that everyone thinks about.
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  It was immortalized in a movie starring Steve McQueen.
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  It's featured in Michael Kaiser's movie Speed Merchants.
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  I'm dating myself somewhat, but then, um, as Lama has evolved, It still
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  has never lost any of its luster.
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  I mean, there was during the fifties, there was a tragedy.
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  Unfortunately, that could have really stymied the motor sport
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  development, but it did not.
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  Lamar is the great international road race for certain.
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  So certainly we will have exhibits and displays at the center
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  celebrating Lamar's history.
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  Any allegiances, any loyalties that you'd like to share?
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  Do you have a brand that you're rooting for?
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  I shouldn't show bias, but I've always been a Porsche fan for various reasons.
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  It's easy to say that, but it depends on where your history comes from.
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  For me personally, it was an experience with a 356 Porsche.
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  My father wasn't really that mechanically inclined.
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  He worked on his own cars, but the one car he thought he would want to turn a wrench
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  on if he could, would have been a 356.
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  So that sort of stuck with me.
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  And then, um, I've never owned a Porsche.
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  Driven several 911s and a 928.
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  So the mystique has always been there and it continues to this day, for sure.
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  So thoughts on the 963, the new LMDH prototype?
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  Gorgeous car, technologically advanced, of course.
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  I certainly would wish Porsche luck.
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  You know, competition is stiff these days too, and technology evolves ever quicker.
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  So what a gorgeous machine, no doubt about it.
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  So since we're talking about Porsche and you're a racing fan, what do you
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  think about them potentially, allegedly making a jump into Formula One?
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  I'm glad you asked.
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  I personally would like to see it.
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  Formula One is really enjoying a crest of popularity right now.
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  I, for one, don't want to see it dissipate in any way.
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  And I think Porsche can really mix up the field.
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  I think it would be terrific.
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  25 years.
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  In the bag, what does the next 25 years look like for the center?
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  Do you have any future plans, anything you can share, some teasers maybe?
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  The center has certainly been growing by leaps and bounds.
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  Probably not unknown that we've always been a little pressed for space.
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  We always have a significant racing car on display, and the
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  library is sort of gradually grown.
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  Anybody who sort of stops in semi annually over the past Few years of seeing that
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  about the collections themselves, film and photo, as well as a periodical collection,
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  which is, I believe over 10, 000 volumes at this point continues to grow.
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  So we are in need of additional space.
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  So we're looking at options, but we have purchased property on
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  Franklin street, the main street in black and spline at the North end.
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  It gives us a pretty good footprint.
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  And we are currently working with an architectural firm around expansion plans.
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  So there's an awful lot of work that needs to be done beforehand, the overall
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  building design, the functions that it will contain, a lot of work that needs
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  to be done, but we have an opportunity to expand in our anniversary year.
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  Motorsport deserves it.
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  So we want to take that.
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  Leadership role on like we've done with the SCCA and push forward.
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  We used to say when we first started 25 years ago or so for the first few
• 21:09
  years, so many of our donations were about people cleaning up closets and
• 21:13
  basements and attics that still goes on.
• 21:15
  But as we've expanded and as we've honed in on.
• 21:18
  Primary resource materials, a lot of that material is out there now,
• 21:22
  and it's still somewhat within a, say, a musty corporate archive.
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  It's not being utilized.
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  We offer that management option of professionally archiving and
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  making resource material available for researchers could be as
• 21:36
  simple as a copy of the photo.
• 21:38
  But it could be more in depth since I've been back over the past year.
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  I've touched base with a couple of authors, but I recall helping 15, 20
• 21:45
  years ago that are still at it, writing authoritative books on motorsport.
• 21:50
  We're still helping them with their research.
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  So very gratifying work.
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  It continues.
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  I can't personally see and tend to the need for this.
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  So we do need to expand and we're, we're addressing that now.
• 22:01
  Congratulations.
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  I mean, well deserved and I'm looking forward to the move in date, you know,
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  to come check it out, come on tour.
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  So what's going to happen to the old IMRRC?
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  Is it going to just be reabsorbed back into the library or will
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  it have a function still?
• 22:12
  We'll continue operations there.
• 22:14
  Certainly for the foreseeable future, we might repurpose that space.
• 22:17
  In some way, it certainly serves us well for office space.
• 22:20
  We might have quieter space for researchers to work.
• 22:24
  It's sort of an evolving project for us, depending on how we'll
• 22:27
  continue to utilize that space and what the new space will look like.
• 22:30
  So Mark, with that, any shout outs, promotions, or anything else you'd like
• 22:34
  to share that we didn't cover thus far?
• 22:35
  Well, I would just encourage everyone to visit, certainly visit us on
• 22:38
  the website, but visit us in person as well, too, on race weekends.
• 22:42
  We will expand our hours to being open on Saturdays and race weekends.
• 22:46
  In the past, certain race weekends, we might be open the entire weekend,
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  but always call ahead if you're making plans, but Saturdays on
• 22:53
  race weekends are given in 2023.
• 22:56
  I'll certainly thank everyone who supported us over the years.
• 22:58
  There are names too numerous to mention.
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  Uh, I should remind everyone we have a really dedicated governing council
• 23:03
  made up of leaders in motorsports as well as a local contingent too.
• 23:08
  Everyone's invested in the Watkins Glen area.
• 23:10
  That goes without saying because we're expanding in Watkins Glen.
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  Our operation is staying, uh, rooted right
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  in upstate New York.
• 23:22
  Our reach has always been international.
• 23:22
  It continues on that trajectory.
• 23:23
  Thank everyone who's, uh, you know, who's made us the success
• 23:24
  that we We are these days.
• 23:25
  We just continue moving forward.
• 23:27
  Special thanks to Wackenstone International.
• 23:29
  Michael Printup and his crew have always been supportive of us and
• 23:32
  we're grateful for his time and our exposure at the track too.
• 23:36
  I mean, uh, today's racing will be tomorrow's history.
• 23:38
  We're working hard to preserve all of that history, even the most recent racing.
• 23:42
  To learn more about the International Motor Racing Research Center,
• 23:46
  check out their website, www.
• 23:49
  racingarchives.
• 23:49
  org, or follow them on social media at IMRRC.
• 23:54
  And if you happen to be in town, post race or beforehand, stop by the
• 23:58
  center and meet up with folks like Mark and Kip while you're there.
• 24:01
  And if you'd like to get in contact with Mark and be part of the next 25 years
• 24:05
  of the center's growth, reach out to him via email at mark at racingarchives.
• 24:10
  org.
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  Mark, I can't thank you enough for coming on the show and you know, I appreciate
• 24:15
  the partnership that we've grown over the last couple of years and I look
• 24:18
  forward to continuing working with the IMRC and being part of the next 25 years
• 24:22
  and celebrating with you guys this year.
• 24:24
  So it's fantastic.
• 24:25
  I mean, you guys are second to none.
• 24:27
  There's really nothing else out there like this, especially for automotive
• 24:30
  historians like myself and others that are looking for answers and looking
• 24:34
  for our haven, our place to go.
• 24:35
  So thank you.
• 24:36
  Thank you for everything you guys do.
• 24:37
  Oh, thanks, Eric.
• 24:38
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• 24:42
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• 24:45
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• 24:49
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