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143 The Experiment That Got Released into our National Forest · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man, and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one paw, massive paw, on my front windshield, and
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  Speaker 1: one paw right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down.
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  Speaker 1: The weight of it just pushed down, and the paw
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  Speaker 1: that was on my front windshield, my windshield started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it, and
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, The, it's like the,
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  Speaker 2: the ground underneath me just kind of opened up, and
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a complete, like,
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  Speaker 3: just like blankness to his face, like there was just,
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  Speaker 3: there was nothing there. I grabbed my. 44 out of
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  Speaker 3: my truck. I jumped out the truck, and that's when
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  Speaker 3: I knew it was, I was the storm man.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a real low guttural ground.
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  Speaker 3: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 4: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 3: More step and it was like he just stepped behind
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  Speaker 3: an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore. Welcome back
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  Speaker 3: to the show, everybody. This week we had on Matt Harvey.
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  Speaker 3: Matt Harvey from Deep Woods Paranormal came back on to
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  Speaker 3: discuss with us what he thinks dogmen might be. And
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  Speaker 3: he got into a story about, you know, he said
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  Speaker 3: he talks to a lot of former, you know, black
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  Speaker 3: ops military personnel. And he got into the story about, um,
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  Speaker 3: that the gentleman told him something that happened in Afghanistan, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to go into it. I'll let Matt
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  Speaker 3: tell that story. And then he goes into, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think these were dropped into our national forest of
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  Speaker 3: the United States. And we don't know why, but it
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  Speaker 3: was a fascinating episode. There's some other things we talked about. Bigfoot,
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  Speaker 3: this property that he goes to and does a lot
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  Speaker 3: of research on. So if you guys keep coming back,
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  Speaker 3: I really appreciate that. If you guys are new here,
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  Speaker 3: you know, hey, welcome to the show. Please leave me
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  Speaker 3: a rating over here on Spotify or wherever you get
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  Speaker 3: your downloads. You can contact me at theiajupiterpodcast at gmail.com.
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  Speaker 3: One more time, theiajupiterpodcast at gmail.com. I really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have you on the show. We can talk about
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is you'd like to talk about. If you
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  Speaker 3: want something you want to share, I'm the guy for that.
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  Speaker 3: And I really hope you enjoyed this episode. It was
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  Speaker 3: a really cool one. Matt is a cool cat, man.
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  Speaker 3: He came on. It was very funny. He had his
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  Speaker 3: dogs running around in the background and all that. I've
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  Speaker 3: been enjoying the show, man, and I really hope you
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  Speaker 3: enjoy this episode with Mr. Matt Harvey.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, how are you, Tom?
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  Speaker 3: I am doing fantastic. How about yourself, buddy?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Matt, do everyone a favor. Please introduce yourself and tell
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  Speaker 3: us where we can find you.
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  Speaker 4: All right. Well, my name is Matt Harvey. I've been
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  Speaker 4: researching the paranormal for well over 30 years now. We
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  Speaker 4: have the Deepwoods Paranormal YouTube channel, which is Deepwoods Paranormal Podcast.
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  Speaker 4: We also have the Deepwoods Paranormal, which has more of
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  Speaker 4: our videos. We're actually transitioning all the audio over to
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  Speaker 4: the audio podcast YouTube channel. And we're going to be
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  Speaker 4: focusing mainly on the main channel with just a video
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  Speaker 4: podcast from here on out. And then, of course, shorts,
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  Speaker 4: video shorts of different evidence and stuff like that. And
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  Speaker 4: then we'll have Investigations coming back up here shortly once
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  Speaker 4: I get going here again been working a lot in
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  Speaker 4: the background so Um, and then also we have an, uh, again, again,
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  Speaker 4: our audio podcast, which is, uh, on speaker, Apple, anywhere
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  Speaker 4: you get your podcast. Yeah. Spreaker.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Speaker, speaker, and all the other podcasts, platforms, wherever you
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  Speaker 4: get your platform, uh, you know, your, your paranormal podcast from, uh,
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  Speaker 4: we're also getting on, on Facebook and YouTube, uh, rumble,
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  Speaker 4: tick tock. We're doing a lot of shorts over there
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  Speaker 4: right now. So, uh, yeah, if you guys are interested in, uh,
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  Speaker 4: evidence or just hearing some of the podcasts or, or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: We do interview quite a few people as well. So, uh,
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  Speaker 4: head on over to our YouTube channel. Uh, if you
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  Speaker 4: want to visit the Deepwoods Paranormal, sorry, Deepwoods Paranormal page, uh,
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  Speaker 4: it's deepwoodsparanormal.com. It has our YouTube, TikTok, Rumble, all that
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  Speaker 4: stuff's on there. Audio podcast is on there as well.
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  Speaker 4: It's a one-stop shop for everything.
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic. Yeah. If you guys are out there selling your
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  Speaker 3: Pepsi products or selling used cars, go ahead and hit
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  Speaker 3: Matt up. Look it up. Yeah, definitely. Let's do it
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  Speaker 3: in the background and enjoy it, man. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, thanks so much for accepting my invitation
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  Speaker 3: to come back on, man. I had such a great
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  Speaker 3: time with you the first time. It was so enlightening
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  Speaker 3: as well as crazy and a little scary. You've been
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  Speaker 3: doing this for quite a long time. Yeah. You asked
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  Speaker 3: me what we're going to talk about today. I want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about this cryptid that you know a little
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  Speaker 3: bit about or at least have encountered in a few Ooh,
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  Speaker 3: there we go. Was that a cat?
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  Speaker 4: My cat, yeah. My mother-in-law brought over a tube, and
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  Speaker 4: he just absolutely loves it. They love playing it. They
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  Speaker 4: play hide-and-seek in there, the two cats.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. He gets in there, and he loves to
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  Speaker 4: slide on things. He uses a pee pad. He used
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  Speaker 4: to go run and jump like a little kid. Jump
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  Speaker 4: on the pee pad and slide across the room. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, that's not what that's for. He's... He's
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  Speaker 4: a Looney Tunes. Yeah, I'm glad it wasn't some paranormal things.
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  Speaker 4: I know you like to bring these creepy dolls and
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  Speaker 4: stuff home. Yeah, we have all kinds of things with
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  Speaker 4: attachments behind me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I hope none of that.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff bleeds through the internet.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: We're working on getting another haunted doll that supposedly is
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  Speaker 4: very negative in nature. maybe more, hopefully more mischievous. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: this room is blessed. It's protected. So the kids can,
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  Speaker 4: you know, go in and out of here, but nothing
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  Speaker 4: else can leave this room. Uh, it's kind of like, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the way they, uh, the, uh, what were
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  Speaker 4: they called? Um, the Warrens had their room set up.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: It's very similar. I don't have anything in cases. I
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  Speaker 4: don't need that. I don't literally have any dolls that
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  Speaker 4: get up and move around. Thank God. But, yeah, they
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  Speaker 4: do have entities that roam the house from time to time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be more than enough for me. And
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  Speaker 3: your wife is just, like, okay with that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she understands that we need to take these out
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  Speaker 4: of circulation.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want these.
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  Speaker 4: These things behind me don't need to be in circulation.
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  Speaker 3: Fair enough.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of the dolls behind me are mischievous, and
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  Speaker 4: if I turn the ghost box on and they actually
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  Speaker 4: came through it, there would be some pretty interesting comments,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. A little while. That'd be interesting.
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  Speaker 4: That sounds like, yeah, sometimes they come through. Sometimes they don't.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I find that the ghost box, basically they have more
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  Speaker 4: conversations with each other than they have with us.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They're just chit chatting. And, you know, I've turned that
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  Speaker 4: on a couple of times and it's like, like we're
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  Speaker 4: talking now, a voice will just come through the same
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  Speaker 4: voice and it'll go on for minutes or, or even
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  Speaker 4: longer sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I went, come on and stay on for 30 minutes.
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  Speaker 4: I recorded the whole damn thing. What the hell? You know,
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  Speaker 4: my friend Joe passed away. God, what a year and
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  Speaker 4: a half ago, two years ago. Now, thank you for
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  Speaker 4: your investigation. And all of a sudden this voice comes
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  Speaker 4: through that sounds really familiar. And I'm sitting there listening
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  Speaker 4: to it. I'm going, what the hell? And he kept
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  Speaker 4: quoting scripture. And I'm like, well, what the hell? And
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  Speaker 4: he was religious. You know, he had not been a
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  Speaker 4: great person his whole life. And he turned his life
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  Speaker 4: around and turned to God and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And so, you know, he had kind of a southern slang.
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't from Louisiana, but he had that southern Louisiana slang.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, like the Cajun stuff?
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  Speaker 4: Right. Well, no, he would say, like, brother. I can't
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  Speaker 4: even say that. He had, like, a long drawn out, like, brother.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I couldn't, you know, but he talked like us,
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  Speaker 4: you know, normally. And he would say, brother, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and it was funny. And so all of a sudden
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  Speaker 4: I hear that come through the spirit, the ghost box,
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  Speaker 4: excuse me, the ghost box, not the spirit box. And
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  Speaker 4: because it's clearer on the ghost box than it is
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  Speaker 4: on the spirit box. They're two different things.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: No, the Spirit Box is more white noise. This doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have as much white noise. You can scan through three
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  Speaker 4: radio frequencies, but it also picks up on EMF flux
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  Speaker 4: and also picks up on temperature change. So I have
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  Speaker 4: the fan going. There's a lot of power right here.
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  Speaker 3: I can imagine like getting one down here.
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  Speaker 4: Fish tanks going with putting, you know, more energy into
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  Speaker 4: the room.
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  Speaker 3: So do you go to areas like, say, if you're
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  Speaker 3: in southern Louisiana, there's lots of places I'd imagine somewhere
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  Speaker 3: down there that people still speak French, right?
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure. Yeah. No, we have, I work for a
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  Speaker 4: company that moves transport railroad crews around. And some of
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  Speaker 4: the engineers and conductors, they're almost impossible to understand. They
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  Speaker 4: talk the German talk, and it is like another language.
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  Speaker 4: It's really cool to hear them, though. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: just like out of a movie. But you're sitting there
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  Speaker 4: staring at them. You're trying to figure out. You're catching
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  Speaker 4: every other word. So you're getting the gist of what
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  Speaker 4: they're saying, but they're their slang is so thick that
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  Speaker 4: it's it's hard to understand them and you're like okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah they do that here too man they're like they
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  Speaker 3: speak spanish of course down here but they mix it
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  Speaker 3: with mayan sometimes yeah so it'll be like and then
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  Speaker 3: they'll say something in mayan i'll go what's that word
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  Speaker 3: And I'll go, oh, that's a Mayan word, which means this.
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  Speaker 3: Mostly it's like cuss words and stuff like that. And
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  Speaker 3: I just imagine bringing that ghost box down here, especially
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  Speaker 3: with those on the woods here that I've seen and
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  Speaker 3: I've encountered, and see what language comes through the boxes
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  Speaker 3: when I'm trying to get at. So that would be interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Right. Well, where are you at again exactly?
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the Yucatan of Mexico, man. Oh, right on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the process of.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely got some paranormal activity going on down there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, dude, I want to keep it kind of under wraps.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the process of writing my first book a bit,
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  Speaker 3: so it's going to take me a while. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's about that kind of stuff and the things that
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  Speaker 3: I've run into down here, but not even really looking
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  Speaker 3: for it. It kind of found me. And so, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if this ever really starts, like it's starting
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  Speaker 3: to like pay for itself. So like I was telling you,
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: I'm getting a new mic and I'm getting some new headphones.
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  Speaker 3: That's from the podcast paying for itself now. It's like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's cool. that it pays out once a month. You
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? It used to be every two months.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's once every month. It's like, okay, cool. I
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  Speaker 3: want to take that money and put it back into
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: the experience of the people. And so once I was
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  Speaker 3: able to take up the space in which I do tutoring,
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  Speaker 3: then I'm going to go out and start doing some stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm a little afraid, but I've seen, I've run
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  Speaker 3: into some things before. Of course, I would definitely contact,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you and others and, And so what should
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  Speaker 3: I take care of and what should I think about? Sage, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: What do I do?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, please. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Sage doesn't work anymore for me. We were outside a
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: location and we used to sage up before investigations. And
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  Speaker 4: somebody was actually wearing an audio recorder around their neck.
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  Speaker 4: And it was only like, I don't know, a four
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  Speaker 4: or five minute recording. So she was listening back through it.
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  Speaker 4: see if we got anything from outside and you hear,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're using sage and something just laughs, this
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  Speaker 4: evil laugh.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 4: And several people went home with attachments after that. And
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  Speaker 4: it was like, Oh, okay. That doesn't work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So how do you mitigate attachments?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, prayer, you have to kind of be a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: I hate the word sensitive, but you have to be
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  Speaker 4: a little bit aware of what's going on around you.
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  Speaker 4: You can feel them. It feels like there's a weight.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like you're being a little bit drained. It's
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  Speaker 4: almost like a leech, you know, attached to you. You
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  Speaker 4: can feel it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: If you've been doing this for long enough and sometimes
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  Speaker 4: they're not, you can't tell. Sometimes you can, but most
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  Speaker 4: of the time they just, they're just like a leech.
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  Speaker 4: You're all of a sudden you're really tired and, Yeah,
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: that's a stomach almost like you're around EMF, high EMF.
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  Speaker 4: And you start to just want to all you want
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  Speaker 4: to do is go lay down and then you start
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  Speaker 4: to pull away from other people. And I've seen that happen.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, no.
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  Speaker 3: OK, kind of like a depression kind of maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they basically can just ruin your life. Essentially, they
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  Speaker 4: if it goes too far. one guy I know tried
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  Speaker 4: to commit suicide. He quit the team and then disappeared.
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  Speaker 4: This is a long time ago, 20 plus years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to cut that one.
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  Speaker 3: Suicide. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He tried to commit suicide and, um, just bad, bad news.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, he, uh, he ended up having to go
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  Speaker 4: into a mental hospital and stuff like that. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they can really mess with you. You know, there's some
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  Speaker 4: that just will sit there and, uh, They'll try to
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  Speaker 4: hurt you in different ways. They can affect you in
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  Speaker 4: all different ways.
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  Speaker 3: Affect relationships, I'd imagine, a lot too. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Basically destroyed his relationship with his girlfriend because he started
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  Speaker 4: checking out. She was the one who alerted me to it.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, there's something wrong. He's not him. Your personality changes. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 4: it's bad.
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  Speaker 3: Before you did some acrobatics back there, I was starting
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  Speaker 3: to kind of Go into the Dogman thing, man.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right. I was just thinking the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't worry about it, buddy. So where did that
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  Speaker 3: begin and what is your– is it fascinating or what
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  Speaker 3: can you tell me about it?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I've done a lot of research on Dogman recently
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  Speaker 4: in the last four or five months because this seems
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: to be a hot topic on YouTube and other places,
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  Speaker 4: especially Facebook. And so it's like, it's like we go
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  Speaker 4: from one fad to the next. It was like ghost
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: hunting that it was Bigfoot. Now it's back to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: dog man. And next thing you know, it'll be something else,
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: but it'll be go back to ghost hunting again or something. Some,
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: some new show will come out.
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  Speaker 3: But.
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  Speaker 4: Dog man goes back to, and maybe even Bigfoot too,
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  Speaker 4: goes back to, you know, ancient times, even, you know,
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  Speaker 4: American Indians, the, you know, Egyptians and other, other, you know,
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  Speaker 4: even where you're at, they have hieroglyphs of, you know,
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  Speaker 4: werewolf like looking creatures. And supposedly they were like the
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  Speaker 4: guardians of, um, guardians of basically like a, uh, almost
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  Speaker 4: like a portal or dimension. You know, when you pass away,
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  Speaker 4: they would guide you to the other side is what
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  Speaker 4: the natives have basically believed. But it seems like I
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  Speaker 4: did a whole podcast on this. it seems like something
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  Speaker 4: has changed. It seems like maybe, you know, big brother
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  Speaker 4: has got a hold of one or multiples of them
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  Speaker 4: and has been using them in a different way. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: clone them, or maybe it's a completely different creature. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: definitely the military is using them. And I've heard everything
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  Speaker 4: from them being used in Vietnam. I've heard them being used, uh,
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  Speaker 4: for like black op missions, uh, Like I was telling,
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  Speaker 4: I was on an interview earlier. I talked to a
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  Speaker 4: special ops guy and he was, excuse me for just
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  Speaker 4: one second.
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  Speaker 3: No worries, buddy. Oh my gosh. You're going to have
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  Speaker 3: what I have in one of these little buttons right here.
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  Speaker 3: I hit that button. Oh, where is it? Oh, the
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  Speaker 3: mute button.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that would help, huh?
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: Anyways, I apologize.
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  Speaker 3: No, worry about it, buddy. I'll cut it out. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So anyways, there's a guy that he, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if he, I can't remember where I met him, but
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  Speaker 4: I meet weird black ops, special ops guys all the time.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a lot of guys that I work with
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  Speaker 4: that are, you know, they're ex military. And so when
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: they find out I research the paranormal, they'll come in
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: and chit chat with me about, different things that they encountered.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Cause a lot of them have seen, you know, war, uh,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: they've been through Afghanistan. They've been through Iraq. They've been
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: through different things. They've done different tours anyways. So, um,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: this guy was telling me that he was on a
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: special ops, black ops, and he was going in to
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: take out a war. They were basically taking a warlord
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: in Afghanistan. And what he told me was, uh, they
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: flew in on a black helicopter. One of the ones
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: that you can't see or hear, basically, it's just no markings,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: just all black middle of the night. You know, they,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: they basically, um, dropped down from ropes into this guy's compound.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: And as they started to, you know, kind of head
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: towards the compound, they were hearing like God awful screams
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: and they couldn't understand what was going on. And he said, uh,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: He walked down one of the hallways. He's just, they
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: just kept finding dead soldiers everywhere. And he looked down
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: one of the hallways and he said, it happened like
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: in a split second. He said, I know what I saw,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: but I, you know, it was just so fast. I
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: don't know if I, you know, I'm trying to, he's
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: just like trying to process it. You can tell he's
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: trying to process it. And he's just, he's just, he
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: like split second. He said, this thing came out of nowhere,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: attacked this guy before he could even pull his gun up.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: He was, you know, the guy was actually aiming it
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: at him, not the dog man. Dog man comes around
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: the corner out of nowhere, grabs him, tears his throat out,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: and then basically in gone. And that's all he saw
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: was just a quick like blur of something. But he
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: said it looked like a giant dog standing on its
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: hind legs. And then it took off. And as he
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: was so fast, by the time he got down within
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: the hallway and looked, it was already gone. And he said,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know where it came from. I don't know
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: what happened, but it was just gone. And so I've
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: also heard in Vietnam that they were using them and
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: that they brought them back to our national forests and
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: dropped them off and left them in the national forests.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: You know, up in Michigan, supposedly they found a lab
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: where they were possibly working on soldiers, crossing a soldier
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: with a dog, a canine maybe.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: I can't even imagine, but who knows what they're actually doing.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, the technology these days, they can do almost
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: anything they really want. I mean, there's so much non-disclosure
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: of what they're actually doing.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Black Alps kind of situation. It's crazy.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: It's crazy what they're doing. So, I mean, they've always
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: been trying to create a super soldier. So imagine if
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: they did, because like I said before, the natives thought
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: of dog man as a interdimensional, uh, being that basically
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: helped cross, you know, spirits over to the other realm.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: And like I said, somewhere this became more of a,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: a real entity. And now all of a sudden, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: they're in the forest and stuff like that. So like
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, I think the military may have just dropped
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: them off. Um, I've been doing a lot of Dogman
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: videos and podcasts lately, just reviewing case after case after
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: case and having to go through and pick all these cases.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: And I'm looking through and what seems to be very
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: strange about the Dogman encounters. Number one, a lot of
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: them come from military bases. A lot of soldiers report
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Dogman on the military bases. They see them. They sit
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: there and stare at them from a distance behind a tree.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: They'll peer up behind a tree or they'll just they'll
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: be on all fours and stand up and look at people.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: And then they basically will back away and then disappear
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: into the forest. There's no attacks. There's no nothing. It's
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: just basically they're just watching or they seem to be
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: hurting people towards certain areas. uh, around different research areas
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: or military high end, you know, high end military areas.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: They're also seen around there where they're doing testing on
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: different things and who knows what they're testing. You know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: there's no way by the time we find out about it,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: it'll be 23 years, 30 years from now. And you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: that technology will already be out. But I mean, who
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: knows what the heck the military is doing. And if
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: they've created a super soldier, I mean, that's, I mean,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: talking about amazing secret, you know, it's kind of like
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: the podcast I did where the U S uh, government, uh,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: brings in, what is it? 440 billion dollars a year
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: from national parks. And the reason for that, uh, for
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: the non disclosure of Bigfoot, cause they don't take in,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: they don't take any reports of anything cryptic wise. The, um,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: you know, if you go and talk to a park
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: ranger or you come in there, uh, They'll say, OK, yeah, OK.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: And they'll kind of laugh at you and they won't
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: write anything down. There's no reporting of anything. They don't
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: report anything. There's no actual place to report anything to,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: which is crazy. But imagine if people, you know, if
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I told you, you know, you had a family and
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: you were going to go camp out at a national park.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: And I said, oh, well, yeah. Hey, by the way,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: watch out for Dogman and Bigfoot out there. you'd be like, okay,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: thank you. I'm turning around now. You have a great day.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Thank you. I just got some minnows. I guess I'll
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: just go in the lake now. Yeah.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Um, you know, I don't feel so good. I
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: think I'm going to turn around and head home for the,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: for the night.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I've heard there's agencies out there that actually suppress this
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: stuff to, to the point at which you can lose
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: your job at a point in which you can be
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: excommunicated by everybody where they just, I mean, uh, it'll
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: be coming out tomorrow, but I had on a man, uh, uh,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Lawrence Hightower from Bigfoot911 and he, ooh, he outlined a
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: story where, it's unbelievable. Guys, go back and check that out.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: It's about three episodes before this one. I believe it
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: because it's just, they're too innumerous to not be, it
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: should be frontline news, but there's so much money in it,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: like you're saying, that, yeah, it's not going to happen.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Well, think about it. You got the local economy, you
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: got the you know, the parks in themselves. Then you've
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: got the loggers and, you know, and all the other
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: people that basically work out there. Loggers report Bigfoots all
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: the time. I don't know if they report Dogman as much,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: but they definitely report Bigfoots and stuff like that. I mean,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: it's not, I don't know how many reports you take in,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: but I'm working on setting. That's part of what I
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: was working on earlier. I'm working on using AI to
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: set up an actual, you know, map. That shows me all,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: you know, because I can't pin every single thing, witness
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: account everywhere. But this thing can go through and scout
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: and put pins all around. Because the pins I have
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: are like clustered in one spot. You know, you look
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: at Texas and you see like the East Texas is
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: just cluttered with pins. And it's not just Bigfoot, it's Dogman,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: it's UFOs, it's hauntings.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Pterodactyls. Texas?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: I've heard of that, but I've never seen it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I would love to see if you could take, when
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: you plot all those pins, then have an overlay of Dogman,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: and then have an overlay of Paranormal and UFO encounters
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: to see. That's a cool project. I don't know if
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: you should be putting that out. Yeah, well, it's interesting.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: It won't be public. It'll probably just be for my
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: personal use, but you'd see one cluster here. And you
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: have one cluster over here, we have Dogman. And then
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: you have another cluster next to it, or Bigfoot. And
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: then kind of in the middle of that, you have
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: UFO activity. And then most places I've ever gone that
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: have true Bigfoot activity, and by true I mean you
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: go there and you have consistent activity. You have tree knocks.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: You have howls. You have screams. You can actually find
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: footprints if the ground allows it. you can find structures,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: you know, this is, I think we talked about Joe's
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: camp the last time I was on here. And, uh,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, his, he was basically in Bigfoot's living room.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: They were coming through his property day and night. I mean,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: we literally walk out and you'd stand and look at
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: the forest and you'd see Bigfoot just standing there looking
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: at you. And they were back in the shadows. And
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: once they moved, you could not see them. But once
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: they moved, I mean, we have what, over almost 500,000
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: pictures from his property and, And then another 200,000 videos,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: short videos from the trap cams we left up there.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about doing some type of documentary
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: about this place?
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: We did a documentary. It's old, unfortunately. The technology we
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: have back then were like 10-year-old Sony handy cams.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: They couldn't see as well. uh, since we've upgraded, we
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: have much better thermal. We have much better, you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: we have, we don't have a night vision. We have
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: a low light cameras now, which make a huge difference.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: They are better. Okay.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Completely different. Um, they see so much better in the
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: dark and, uh, low light camera.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Now we use our, our, our lights shine so much
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: further that it's a game changer. We have better night
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: vision technology, um, I want to take a friend of
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: mine and go up there and put him up on
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: a tree stand and have him stay up there all
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: night and basically me maybe hide out somewhere and leave
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: something out for them to come by and see what happens.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: That's my future project is to do some stealth Bigfoot camping.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: That'll be on our YouTube channel sooner or later.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I always thought about that, why people just don't stay
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: up in the stand for like a night or two
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: and just kind of like put all that stuff out.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: And maybe they know you're there, dude, man. I mean,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: sometimes they're like, hi, I'm here. Sometimes they're like, it's
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: an accident. And then sometimes they know. Right.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: It seems like the juveniles are always kind of playing
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: hide and seek, if you will. They like to come
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: in and they kind of like to see what you're doing.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Joe always said if you light a big bonfire on
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: his property, because there's plenty of wood everywhere, and he
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: was always burning stumps, so we would basically build a
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: big bonfire, and you could see the eye shine. You
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: couldn't see it with your own eyes, but you could
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: see it with the IR cameras. You could just see
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: them sit there and blink, and it was the coolest thing.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: And you hear them. You hear them moving around, but
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: of course he had all kinds of animals up there,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: so if you couldn't visually see it, you couldn't identify
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: it for sure 100%. But he had deer, raccoons the
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: size of dogs. I mean, he... The things on his
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: property were huge. Skunks were, you know, everything was huge.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Probably because it isn't hunted up there. There's no hunting
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: in his area. So you can't hunt up there.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: You have dogman activity there as well?
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I did find scratches, like three scratches, claw marks on
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: one of the trees. It was seven feet up. I
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: had to reach up with my hand like this to
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: see where it was. And I didn't really know much
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: about Dogman back then. And I'm like, and he kept
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: telling me, oh, this is, this is Bigfoot. And then
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: there was a spot where his foot, his property was
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: like a, it's like a football field, 55 acres, essentially
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: like a football field. And then off to the left
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: and off to the light, right. Where, you know, lines
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: of trees. And of course in the back used to
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: be the first 20 yards was basically his driveway. And then,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: sorry we got a dog pound here we're watching two
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: dogs for somebody anyways you know with our other two
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: dogs so they anytime they react so anytime they react
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: yeah so anyways the the first portion of the property
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: like the first 20 yards was his driveway in his
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: area the back 80 yards was basically you know just
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: left untouched and he did that on purpose because he
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: was very curious about bigfoot and wanted to know more
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: and like i said in the last one when we
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: When I first went up there, I was like, you know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: this guy's got to be smoking something. There's no way
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: he can have all this stuff going on in his property.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: And sure enough, I mean, tree bins, tree teepees, tree blinds. structures, howls, screams,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: tree knocks. And it was just like, what the hell?
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: You know, I had several encounters with them and. You know,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: it took up eight different skeptics. They all became believers
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: when they had daytime sightings of a Bigfoot walking through
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: the brush, you know, or one actually walked right across
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: the road. This is not a very busy highway out
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: in front of this property. They walked from his bamboo
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: forest across the road. And that area has a lot
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: of hog activity. So I imagine it probably was going
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: after a hog. But that place at night was creepy.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, you could not see your hand in front
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: of your face. You just hear all this noise and
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: then it goes quiet. Same thing here, man.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I have a piece of property in the middle of
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: the jungle, bro. When you're from North America or you
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: lived in Europe, I'm used to hearing like boars and
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: maybe people and cars. And then in the States, you
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: hear owls, whatever, right? But here... There's birds and shit
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: that you hear in the middle of the night. You're like,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: what the hell is that? You get used to it. Dude,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: you have no idea, man. When you come, you're like, oh, yeah,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: that's this bird or that's that bird. And you're like, oh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: and in the daytime, see, remember that last night? You know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: like a farmer would tell me, that's the bird. So
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: when you go to like a strange place that's different too,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: those sounds become very... What is that? What is that? Right. And, uh, yeah,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: so I can imagine if you're running to a place
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: that you recognize, you know, the sound because it's America's basically,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: you know, there's different areas. Right. But yeah, I can
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: imagine it being just very, uh, Serene and off-putting. Serene
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: and off-putting.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and then you'd go back and review
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: evidence and there'd be like eyeshine right behind you. It
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, they're like standing like 10 feet behind you.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: They're not far away from you. You know, if they
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: really wanted to do something to you, they could have.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, they could have, you know, but it seemed
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: like they were more playful. Like one night, one morning
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: we found like a dead deer carcass. And I mean,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: it was fresh kill down to clean down the bone,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: no legs on it, everything gone. You know, the only
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: thing left was the head and the backbone and it stunk.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: It stunk.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I had beetles on it. They were already cleaning it
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: and everything, whatever, you know, had it basically cleaned it
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: down to the bone. And I don't know of any
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: predator that would do that. There was no teeth marks
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: or anything on it. So we went back inside and
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: kind of got ready to go for the day to
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: walk out there and start exploring his property. We come
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: back out. It's gone. We're looking around. We're like, what
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: the hell? And on the left side of his properties
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: were more of more of the activity was all the
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: structures and stuff like that, especially the farther back he got.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: And so we're walking through and we're weaving through trees
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: and going through, you know, around bushes and stuff like that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: It's a true forest. And so we get to the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: top and I'm like, oh, there's an odor again. And
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: now it's overhidden underneath a bush. So some kind of predator,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: I can't say it was a Bigfoot, but a predator
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: definitely came back for it. It was finishing it off.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: So we called it, you know, an afternoon. We were
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: walking back to see what else was going on, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: we were going to go grab something to eat. And
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: as we're walking back, literally like a vine, you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: you'd walk through between two bushes, and a vine had
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: literally been pulled through the two bushes, blocking your path.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: And when we walked through the two trees, like a
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: tree trunk was pulled through at an angle, like leaned
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: up like this. And it's just, then, you know, in
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: another spot had a, like a tree trunk laying on
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: the ground. It was, it was big tree trunk, you know,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: pulled across. And so you couldn't walk that way anymore.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, you know what? You guys are hilarious,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: you know, but it was playful. It was funny. And we,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: you know, we were laughing the whole way back. We're like, geez.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: And then of course that night they ate, things were
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: a lot different. Oh my God. That was scary. Okay.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: I left Christy or one investigator down on the right
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: side of the property towards the back. It was the creepiest.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: I went over to the left where the cemetery was,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: his family plot was, and there was a lot of
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: activity there. So when you go out past the cemetery,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: there's actually power lines, and it's cleared mainly. At this point,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: the brush was taller than me, but something had gone
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: through there and just trudged everything down. It looked like
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: a bulldozer had gone through. And so, you know, about
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: four and a half, five feet wide. And then you
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: go across and there's the actual forces on the other side,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: which we weren't allowed to go up into. Joe used
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: to say that's where they're at. I'm like, OK, can
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: we go in there? No, no, you guys can't get
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: on there. You know, his family still own that property,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: but we were allowed to go back there for some reason.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know what was back there, but we were
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: allowed to go up there. And I know there was
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: a lot of structures, like old farms on that property
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: that were pretty much collapsing. And so we actually drove
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: up that road one time a little bit further than
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: when he had ever let me go. And we got
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: to the point where that forest was, and he said, nope,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: you guys, you can't go up in there. And so
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you know, why are you showing
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: this to me then? He's like, I just wanted to
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: show you how far back it goes. And so, yeah,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: I was over in that cemetery, and it just felt creepy.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: It was creepy as hell that night. I felt like
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: I was being surrounded. And out of nowhere, I hear
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: these whoops. Whoop, whoop, whoop. And I hear Christy scream.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, no, here we go. She literally had
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: almost dropped the camera. It landed, like, on its side.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I think it landed on a table. I think she
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: dropped it on the table. She was sitting in a
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: chair and had a table next to her. And I
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: went back and reviewed, and it's hard to see because
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: it's an older camera. It's a six megapixel camera. So
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: it's not like it's today's camera, 18 megapixel or whatever.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: So it's not super clear. You literally see about a 14,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: 15 foot Bigfoot standing there after the whoops happened. And
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: then you see, you can hear the whoops, like something's
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: running up through the trees, running away.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: So it must have seen Christy and freaked out and run.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: And then the male came down to check to see
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: what was going on. And Christy saw it. And she
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: freaked out. She ran. Oh, my God. I don't blame her, though.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, imagine a 15-foot Bigfoot that's 7, 8 feet
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: across and almost three times her height.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Standing there. looking at you in the pitch black and
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: you know it's like okay but yeah i felt like
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: i was being watched too i stayed over there for
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: as long as i could but i went and stood
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: and if i put my truck in between me and
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: the forest i put my back to the the truck
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: so i could see what was coming at me but
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: yeah that investigation didn't last right not long that night
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: excuse my mileage is going crazy because it's raining here Oh, really?
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, you guys are going to get the storm, too.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: You guys are in Mexico, right?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not on that part of Mexico. I'm
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: on the other side. I'm on the Gulf side.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: It's going to come through up towards the four corners. Yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: through Texas and all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, up that way. Yeah,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: so I've always heard back that a lot of times
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: for some unknown reason that there seems to be, especially
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: around cemeteries, a lot of dogman activity.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Dogman and Bigfoot.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Dogman and Bigfoot. Yeah. Bigfoot's also seen around cemeteries for
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: some reason, but like I was saying before, I think
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: I told you this on another blog. I asked, it
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: seems like hauntings and Bigfoot go together. Blackstar Canyon haunted Bigfoot.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: That was property.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Jerry Bren, Jerry, I can't think of his name, Jerry Bren, something.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: And he, his, his videos, man. Like at first you're
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: kind of like, okay, you know, all right, man, it's
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: always hard to see it from this perspective, and it's no,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: on anybody, you know, it's hard to see it from
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: here than it is to see it in front of you.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: But he was showing me this video, man, and you
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: could see, like, these two eyes, like, underneath this, like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: root ball area, and you could see it, like, change.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: He's like, you see, watch it, it'll change. And I
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, yeah, watch it. And, dude, I almost
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: jumped out of my chair, man. I don't know what
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: the hell is going on in Blackstar. That place is weird.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: It's super haunted. I don't know what the hell's going
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: on there. yeah it's like fenced off and behind that
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: fence there seems to be even more things going on
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: than on that trail.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah they do military exercises up there too so you
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: know who knows what they're doing after after dark but
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: yeah bigfoot encounters i had like 14 15 you know
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: sightings daytime nighttime sightings of bigfoot rocks thrown over my
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: head the size of you know softballs or bigger um
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: you know, I got chased out of there. The last
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: encounter I had with them basically was being chased out
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: and that was scary. Um, yeah, but it's, it's been,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: you know, the ghosts and I have a, you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I used to use the ghost. I would go in
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: there and turn on my K2 cause there's no EMF
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: out there. It's basically just, you know, there's, there's no
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: power out there. It's just, there's power lines that go through,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: but there's no power itself. And so you're walking through
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: and you're like, you know, talking to the ghosts, you know,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: have you seen a big hairy creature tonight? And they'll
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: light it up for yes. Or if you start to
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: have an experience and you have the K2 on, it'll
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: light up. I think they can see them, to be
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: honest with you. I think the ghosts can possibly see them.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they're in the same dimension or
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: what's going on with that. I mean, like. I said,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I've gone from saying it's a rabbit hole to saying
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: it's a black hole. I mean, the more you study
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: the paranormal, the crazier it gets. The more people I
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: talk to, and I'm sure you too, the crazier it
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: just seems to get. You know, the more you hear.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, things just line up, like weird shit lines up,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: and you're like, oh yeah, the clock moved from this
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: time to this time after it fell off, and that's
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: the time that this happened on this date when this
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: person passed away, and you're like, what the fuck? Because
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, bro, I'm telling you, I have... I
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: have no idea how this happened. Things like that, and
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: you're just like, what the... This video, this guy, Jerry,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: he was showing me... Check out this picture. You see
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: these two children. They're in black with little hats, and
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: you see in the distance these two other rounder black
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: things looking at them, looking at the ghosts. And he's like, yeah,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I took this picture out. I was like, what the hell?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: And it's all started lining up. So it's like at
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: the beginning I was kind of like, okay, you know,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know. And then it started getting like, all right, dude,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: you're seeing something. I don't know what though. Yeah.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: No, I had, I don't know when my other channel,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: before my other channel got taken down, YouTube took it down.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I had what? I don't know, 1,000 videos on there?
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, I had 80,000 subscribers. That was back before
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: YouTube was even monetized. That was 2008, 2009, or whatever
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: it was. Yeah, I had all kinds of videos from
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Blackstar Canyon. I still have some of them. I have
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: to go back and find some more, but I can't
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: load because they're 6 megapixel. They don't load. They won't load.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: I can't edit them. I can't load them on the
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: computer anymore. They don't function very well on the newer computers.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: If I had an older computer and I could somehow
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: upgrade it, I would. I've tried using ChatGVT. Can you
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: just fix this for me? No, sorry. And it looks
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: terrible when it does. It just turns it to black
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: and gray. And you're just a blob at that point.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think what it does is it tries
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: to zoom in on the picture. And what it does
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: is because it's so pixelated, it just looks like absolute garbage.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: So unless it knows what it's exactly what it's looking for,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: it can't, it can't fix it.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. I mean,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: like I don't know if I ever told you about
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: what's going on when I experienced here, I've seen lights
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: on the wall, not like an orb, but like a
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: light and then moved. And then when I went to
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: look like someone was messing with me. And then when
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I went to look like to see if there was
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: a flashlight, like someone was shining a flashlight through a
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: fish tank with like whitish blue and it was moving.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: And then when I went to look and look back,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: it was gone. And then, Behind me, outside of the
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: mosquito netting, in the middle of nowhere, dude, I'm talking
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: off the road, deep in the jungle, I started hearing
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: these voices, like these disembodied voices of like whispering in
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: a female voice in a language I can't distinguish what
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: it is. It wasn't anything I understood. And then I
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: just said, you know, in the name of God, you know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: you can't, you know, I'm not here to hurt nobody.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Don't hurt me. But I've seen lights out there. I've
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: heard voices. I've had something speak in my ear, like
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: while I'm laying in the hammock about to go back
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: to bed. And I actually feel the breath on my ear.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: And I threw a punch because it's just one of
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: those responses that come out of you. You don't know
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: what it is. And then I did that. I may
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: or may not have, I can either confirm or deny
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I have ruins on the property I bought. They're everywhere here, bro.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: It's one of those places, man. It's just so, it's
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: like a place captured in time. It's like 1995 with
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: cell phones. People still buy everything in cash and shit.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: It's like that. But it's also crazy, too. You've got
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: to be careful when you're out there. You never know.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: There's jaguars here, dude. You never know.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, sure.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe one time you get a chance to come down.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Once I get that stuff up and running, you come
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: on down and just say, hey, I got a piece
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: of property with a gate, key, and everything way back
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the woods there.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Crazy.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be fun.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we might come down there.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: This Dogman thing, though, man, has just been, to bring
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: it back to what we were talking about, it's just
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: one of those things, man. Sometimes they're kind of, I
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: don't know how to explain it, they're like semi-aggressive. They're like,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: sometimes they're very menacing, and then sometimes they're just kind
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: of like looking at you, and I don't know if
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: you've experienced them yourself. I don't want to, personally. I'd
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: rather see what you've seen. I've had paranormal and things
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: like that. Here, there's been sightings of them. Right. They
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: call them Nakwa here, which is basically a walker of sorts,
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. It's like a shapeshifter.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: That's what they call them here. There's a lot of
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. A lot of witchcraft. A lot of
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: entities in the forest called Elushes and witches and all
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: kind of weird that people that I know have seen.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: People are like, dude, I'm telling you, I've seen this shit.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: And then what I've seen, they're like Mayan sacraments to
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: protect the cornfields. And I've heard people who've taken corn
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: and they've been chased down the road. It was like
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: a tunnel in the middle of the road where the
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: vegetation grew over. They hear something. It sounds like a
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: damn train. This is in Spanish. It sounds like a train, Tom.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, really? And we started running. You could see
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the forest coming after us. And we just threw the
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: corn to the ground, jumped on our bikes, and just
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: puddled away. I never did that again. And it's just,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: it's everywhere. Everybody has a story here. Everybody.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Sounds like elementals. Yeah. They call them a loosh. A-L-U-X. Yeah.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: And it's a minor word.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: I have a lot of friends that talk about elementals
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: out here and how they protect everything. You know, the
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Native Americans thought elementals were, you know, the trees, the rocks,
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: the stones, you know, the ground. It was everything that
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: was living. Basically, they thought were protected by elementals.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: I think that's what, was messing with me out there.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: There were elements, something of that nature. I would love
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: to talk to these people. If you ever throw a
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: name my way, I would love to talk to them.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I love to talk about those kinds of things.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: I just friends of mine that bring them up there.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: They're into Wicca.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: I have no problem with that. People that are into
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Wicca are more into elementals.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, they're kind of like just guardians of
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: the forest.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right. I have a problem with that. I've had
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: friends who were Wiccan too. It doesn't bother me none. Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: I love people that are Wiccan. It's interesting to get
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: other people's takes because the more you listen to them,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: the more their stories kind of match what you hear.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: It's just told differently and called something differently like you
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: were talking about. You know, they call them different names
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: in different places. It's like Bigfoot. They're all over the
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: world and they have different names. Yowie, Dolomite Snowman. I mean,
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: you can just go through. There's I think there's like
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: 300 names or something for Bigfoot across the United States,
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: across the world. I mean, even here, there's like a
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: hundred and some odd names for Bigfoot because the Native
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: American tribes kind of call them different things. Sasquatch, Bigfoot,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: you know, their true, yeah, their true name was like Sasquatch,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: not Bigfoot. And so, you know, people say, oh, it's Bigfoot. No,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: it's also Sasquatch. They're the same creature. you know, but there's,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: there's theories that ancient man could also be still among
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: us and that they could be, you know, cause some
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: people describe hearing, seeing like more like human, like people,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: you know, like a wild man. And, and I do believe,
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: I do believe that there are, you know, ancient humans
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: that possibly have evolved alongside us and we just haven't
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: seen them.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: It's very true. I've also, you also noticed that, you know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: like if you go to, you know, kill a deer
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: in like Texas and, It might dress out at 150 pounds,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: a big, large buck. But if you get that same
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: buck in, like, Manitoba, that thing is 300 pounds. And
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: then down here, there's also whitetail, and they'll dress out
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: at 80 pounds. You've also noticed that with the sightings, too.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: If you're up in the upper northwest, they're the big
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: conehead type, and they're the patty type, and they're huge.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: And then you get down to, like, you know, Florida,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: and you run into the skunk gate, which is, like,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: at this tall, six feet tall. You know, it seems
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: to be it seems to be at least when it
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: comes to, you know, evolution, whether you believe in it
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: or not, whatever, that it also seems to follow at
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: least that rule to a certain degree. You know, it's right.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: It's super interesting. Right.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Well, they look more like orangutans. You know, the skunk
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: egg looks more like an orangutan. Usually the red color
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: and they have more of that pronounced face, more square face.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. OK.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: And then the Bigfoots, if you look at them, they
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: come in all different colors, blonde, brown.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Black. Yeah, all of it.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Black, red as well. But from what I've seen, the
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: red ones are always tall and lanky. So are the
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: blonde ones. The brown ones are more stocky and short. Um,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: usually they don't pass about nine, 10 feet. A black
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: ones get absolutely massive.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: It's also not with no neck. And he seemed to be,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: it's like a neck sitting on his shoulders. They're like
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: this weird, right? Like you were saying, blocky ones. Yeah.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: The blocky ones.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. They look like a giant bouncer. Steroids. I always
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: think of a New York guy. Yeah. So when I
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: was going to Black Star Canyon, I mean, that's what
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: I used to see is I called them the bouncers.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: They were as wide as they were tall. They were
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: about six, seven feet tall and they were probably four
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: or five feet wide. I mean, they're just big burly
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: chest and, you know, they huge animals. That's one of
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: the ones that chased me out. And I didn't mess
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: with them after that. I'm like, okay.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: How did they chase you out, Matt?
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: So long story short, this is my last actual visual
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: encounter with them. I had left a trap cam up
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: in a place where I figured they were, they were
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: using the, creeks and riverbeds as highways. They were traveling
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: along them cause they're dry and it's mainly stone. So
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: they're not leaving footprints. Um, I have this brilliant, brilliant idea. Oh,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: you know what? Let's leave some trail cams down there. Right.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: And I left them for a couple of days and
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: I figure up to that point, I was seeing them
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: all the time, daytime, nighttime. They didn't seem to care.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: They were cool with me seeing them. They, you know,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: we were always peaceful and, And I felt like that
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: night I went to pick them up. A couple of
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: nights before, I'd just gone to pick them up. I
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: was up there in Black Star Canyon. I was up there, what,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: four or five times a night, I mean a week sometimes, daytime, nighttime,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: just doing my own research, ghost hunting and Bigfoot researching.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Never did anything UFO-wise, although a lot of people report that.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: So where the trees grow over, right before the.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: First mine there, the big box on the right side. Basically,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: that's where I left the trap cam because you kind
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: of go down over the barbed wire fence and it
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: kind of goes down into the creek and it's wider,
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: it's sandy, and there's two berms on either side. So
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: I was trying to leave the camera up on the
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: berm on the right side. If you're looking up creek,
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: I was trying to leave it on this side and
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: see if I could capture something. I wanted to try
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: and hide it well enough because I listened to Cliff
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: and Bobo from Finding Bigfoot. And I'm like, I'll just
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: put it in here, and I'll cover it with sand,
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: and it didn't work. And so I was trying to
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: get it to stay. It kept falling over. I'm like, no,
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: that's not going to work. So I'm looking at this
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: eucalyptus tree. No, that's wrong. I was going over to
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: try and put it at this eucalyptus tree, and this
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: eucalyptus tree was wider than I was putting my arms
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: around it. And my cord, I think, to wrap it
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: was only– three or four feet long. So I couldn't
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: get the damn corridor on this eucalyptus tree. I'm like, yeah,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: they'll be walking up and down. Thank God I didn't
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: put it over there. I ended up strapping it to
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: another tree on the other side, facing the Creek where
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: you couldn't see it from the road. Cause I didn't
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: want any of the park rangers or anybody to see it.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: And so I left it there for two days. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: was severely nervous about leaving it there. And so I'd
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: gone up like a couple of weeks before and I
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: retrieved it and I got, I got one on camera.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: It was, I went through the pictures and this is again,
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: like a six megapixel camera, you know, an old, old
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: trail cam. This is 20 years ago or 15 years ago.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: And so essentially I had left the trail cam for
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: two consecutive nights. And so in the morning about 11 o'clock,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: you see just this thing come from behind the tree
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: and you kind of see an army. You can see
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: like half of a head face and it's just this big,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: huge brown thing. And I'm like, that's a Bigfoot. And
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: I'm waiting for it to come out from behind the tree,
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: and it never did. And I'm like, damn it. So
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: I started scanning through picture after picture after picture. Now, remember,
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: this camera takes a picture every minute, not every second
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: like the cameras do now, or every tenth of a second,
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: however fast they are.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: I have so many trail cameras now. They're so much faster. Anyways,
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: so it also took a short video, and there was nothing,
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: just a picture, no video. I'm like, okay, that's interesting.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: So I say that was about 11.07 in the morning,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: and so what actually I set it off was the
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: shadows moving, not the actual Bigfoot hiding behind the tree.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: This tree was massive. I mean, it was just huge.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: It was a huge tree. Anyways, I go through the
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: next day and again, it's like standing halfway out. You
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: can see like half of it, but the arms on
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: the other side of the tree and the tree is
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: probably two plus feet radius wide. I mean, it's so
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: you got a four foot animal standing on the street
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: halfway out.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: You know, with its arm on the other side. Wow.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was excited. I'm like, oh, crap. Why doesn't
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: it scoot out more? And then in the next there's
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: no picture, but there was a video. It's standing in
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: the middle of the creek. And you can actually see
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: it standing there sideways. And I think it realized what
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: it was. It was trying to figure out what the
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: trail cam was. And its beard was a little longer
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: than mine. You could see the hair blowing like this
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: in the wind.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: It was only a six-second clip. So anyways, then there's
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: another picture of it standing right next to the tree,
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: like standing out. It's like I had gone back and
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: stood next to the tree and was kind of just
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: still looking at it. And supposedly somebody saw one above,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: you know, just a couple of feet hiding behind the brush, uh,
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: up behind it too. So there was two of them.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: I like, I, like I said, I think they're twins.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: I call them the bouncers. So they're standing there just
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: looking at the trail cam. And, uh, then there wasn't
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: anything else. I was like, damn. And somebody had actually
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: taken the chip out of my other trail cam. So
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: I never got it. But, um, I wasn't supposed to
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: be over there anyways. I just went over that way.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: So I know it's still, yeah, I grabbed my trail
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: cams and I hightailed it the hell out of there
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: before I got caught, you know? Um, so a couple
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: of weeks went by and I didn't have any activity.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: I had no ghost hunting activity, no Bigfoot activity. I think,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: you know, that's how Blackstar is. It goes quiet. It's
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: just nothing for periods of time. And you're up there,
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: you know, being an idiot, talking to yourself. It's basically
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: just a night hike at that point in time. you're
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: just enjoying the scenery and enjoying being out. And then, uh,
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: so I get up there and I'm doing, I wanted
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: to do an EVP session where the trees grow over
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: and supposedly somebody was hung there. And of course the
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: mine's just up the way. And so I'm standing there
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: and as I'm walking up to where the trees grow over, um,
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I kept hearing growling. So my mind, okay, I'm like
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: mountain lion, you know, there's a mountain lion somewhere. It's
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: growling at me telling me I shouldn't be here. I'd
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: actually seen it. mountain line, jump the fence, the one
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: barbed wire fence on the right side, land in the
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: middle of the trail, look at me, and then jump
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: over the other barbed wire fence and disappear down the creek.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: And so I'm thinking, okay, that's what it is. And
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: so after a while, I set up my audio recorder,
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: set it on a tree, set up the Handycam on
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: a tripod facing me, and I was sitting there just
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: talking to myself, basically, with a growling going on in
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: the background. You couldn't hear it. It just didn't come through.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: because there's so much noise. If you're out in the forest,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: it's so loud. It's a lot louder than people think
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: it would be with cricket noise and whatever noises are
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: out there. So sitting there doing an EVP session, and
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden I hear the noise behind me stop.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay. you know, and I said to the camera,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: you know, if you guys find this camera and I'm
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: not alive, this is what happened. I got jumped by
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: a mountain lion, you know, my back was to that,
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: you know, that barbed wire fence. I'm like, okay, but
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: I wasn't standing, sitting down. I'm a big guy. I'm
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: six foot two. So, you know, I figured it's, I'd
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: have a chance to at least brush it off or
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: something if it jumped on me. So I'm looking and
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden the, the bushes, you know, just
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: beyond the fence, about five or six feet beyond the fence, uh,
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: that are probably about five feet wide and about maybe
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: six feet tall. All of a sudden they just start
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: going back and forth. I'm like, wait, it's not windy.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: And then I started hearing this grunting, this, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what the hell? So I grabbed the camera
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: off the tripod and I walked over there. I'm filming
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: this going on. I'm like, and then I threw the light,
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: you know, through the moonlight. I can see a cone
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: shaped head. I'm like, Oh, it's a Bigfoot. And it's
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: doing this whole back and forth. It went on for
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: about two minutes. And then it darts up, you know,
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: up the path towards, you know, up, up the, up
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: the Creek. And it's dry, of course. And I'm like, Oh,
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Holy crap. I just got a big foot on camera. Right.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: So I pack up my crap, put my camera away.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: I just want to get home. I want to see
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: the footage. I want to see what I got. Of
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: course I got nothing. It was black. It was too dark.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: That camera didn't see past about four or five feet.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: Cause even with all the iron light I had attached
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: to it, there was no chance. Um, Tried to get
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: it cleaned up, but still nothing back then. We just
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: couldn't fix it. So I'm walking down, and as you
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: walk down the path, I'm about a mile and a
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: half from my car. It kind of slopes down. You're
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: up in the hills, so it kind of slopes down.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: The road's kind of cut into the side of the mountain.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: And there's a spot that's about, I don't know, three
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: feet high where it kind of slopes down and stops. Well,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: I was staying away from the creek. I'm like, okay,
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: I better avoid being over by the creek just in
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: case I think I was back. It tries to grab
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: me or something. I don't want to be next to
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: that barbed wire and get sliced to death, you know.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: So I'm walking over towards the hill thinking there's nothing
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: on that side. So I walk right past something. I
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: got about a step or two past, and I kind
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: of out of my peripheral vision, I saw something. And
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: I kind of went like this, and I almost made
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: eye contact. I'm like, oh, my God. this huge thing
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: was just crouched down. It looked like a giant gorilla,
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: you know, not all I saw was two red eyes
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: and this huge black silhouette. And I knew exactly what
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: it was. I'm like, Oh, okay. So I'm like, okay.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: It didn't make any noise. Just sat there. I just,
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: I took about six or seven more steps and I,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: I'm like, my heart's gone a million miles. I'm like,
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Holy crap. I mean, I could, I was like a
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: foot from it. I mean, I could literally reached out
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: and touched it. That's yeah. a closer wise. I was like, Holy,
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: you know what? Um, so I walked past it and
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: finally I got, I'm like, no, no, no. I got
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: to stop and turn. I started grabbing, started fumbling in
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: my bag. You know, I just have a camera bag
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: and I'm fumbling for my, my camera and I turn
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: it on, turn around.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: It's gone.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: Um, I'm like, damn it. No, no, he's just gone.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: Never made a sound. I'm like, oh, damn it. And,
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: of course, I turn back around, and there's a shadow
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: person standing right in front of me, which scared the
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: living bejesus out of me.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: I've seen him, dude. I've seen him.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, it wasn't like scary, scary. It was more playful, scary.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: It was like, ha ha ha. You know, I scared you. And,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: you know, that almost gave me a hard time. I
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: feel I sort of laugh. I'm like, you jerks. You know,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: I developed a relationship with the spirits there. You know,
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: they they knew me. They like me. In fact, people
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: have called me Matt. You know, I'm at Black Star Canyon.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: They're saying your name on this EVP. I'm like, oh, okay.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: It's almost that high.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I'm like, hey, put me on speaker. Anyways,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: so I'm like, okay, great. So I start walking down.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: I'm walking pretty quickly. And all of a sudden I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: hear crack, bang, crunch, snap. And I'm looking up above me,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: and I'm not seeing anything go over, but I can
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: hear them, like, crudging through. They're, they're, they're, they're probably 40,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: 50 feet away from me on a, on a vertical slope,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: almost just trudging through. Like they're just breaking things.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: You know, that's intentional. I'm sure they, you know, yeah,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: they're trying to scare me. They're trying to scare me.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: And so I'm like, Oh, okay. I got the message.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: I'm out. And I kept walking. It took me about
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: a month before I could go back up there. And
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: after that, I was already aware of them, but I
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: was hyper aware of them after that. They would be
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: behind the tall brush as you're walking down the road.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: I could feel them. I could feel them there. And
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: I would take my camera and you just get these
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: green eyes. You could see the green eyes and they
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: would like duck down behind a fence. You could see
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: there was, you know, there's like small trees and brush there,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: but the camera could see through that. And you can
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: just see a silhouette and eyes. And I recorded it
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: to see these green eyes. I don't know if their
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: eyes are green. It could be the IR because it
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: doesn't record in true color. Right. But it's recording on
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: the infrared side.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I'm like, okay. And, you know, after that,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: it was never the same, unfortunately.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: They were not happy with me after that. I feel
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: like I crossed the boundary I should have crossed. And
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: once I did that, they were like, nope, you're not welcome.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: We're not friends anymore. And, you know, because I used
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: to leave them like, you know, protein bars and stuff
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: like that. And I never saw it taken, but they
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: would always be gone when I got back. I never
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: left a camera there because I figured somebody would steal it. But,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: you know, when I was walking up, we didn't really
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: have any good trees to knock on. So I take
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: a three cell maglite and bang it on the on
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: the telephone poles and to see if I get them
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: to communicate. I never never saw anything or heard anything back.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: But I was playing. Matt moneymakers screams one night and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: in the Canyon next to us, we kept hearing the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: coyotes go off. They were cackling and carrying on. So
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay. So I started playing the Bigfoot calls
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: and every time they would call, I would make a
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: Bigfoot call. And I didn't realize that there was a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: scream in there. This God awful, you know, to carry
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: it on for however long you carry it on for,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: but it was distant. And we didn't hear it with
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: our own ears. But I was using my phone to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: do call blasting. I was using my audio recorder to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: record back. And that was cool. We got so much
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: evidence up there. Footprints, I mean, I cast a footprint
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: that unfortunately was paper thin and just snapped when I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: went to pick it up. If you guys are ever
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: looking to cast prints, number one, create a barrier if
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: you can. But it was just, I mean, it was
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: in real soft dust and it was perfect footprint. I mean,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: the toes on that thing were like the smaller toes
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: were the size of quarters and just, you know, perfect circles.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: And you could see the ball of the foot. You
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: could see the heel. I mean, that thing was 18
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: inches long. It made my foot– I have a size
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: 13 wide. My feet are not small. It made my
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: foot look like a little kid's foot. And, you know,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: since then at Joe's property, I found a 26-inch footprint.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: And that's the big one that I was, you know,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: I think that's the dominant male. That thing was pushing
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: 18 feet high. I mean, we, we measured one time
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: where that was, but, um, speaking of Joe's camp. Yes.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: You were asking about a dog, man. I found weird
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: prints up there one day. Remember what I was telling
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: you about the cemetery where you could walk through to
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: the forest.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: It's in the back.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: The back left.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, I thought there was, I thought it
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: was lizard man. And cause Joe had talked about lizard
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: man on his property. it looked like a giant bird
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: is long, long. And then it had the three, you know,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: and I, so I started asking around on the internet
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: to people who knew more about it than I did.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: And somebody got back to me and they're like, that's
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: a dog man print. I'm like, what? Dog man print.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: And they're like, yeah, that's a dog man print. So
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: it does not surprise me that they're in that same area.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: I do think they occupy a lot of this entire territory. Uh,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: but yeah, so, uh, Definitely. I definitely believe that Dogman
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: and Bigfoot are sharing similar areas along with UFOs and hauntings.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: I think all that kind of seems to go together.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: They're not like you have a cluster of Bigfoot here,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: you have next to it, you have a cluster of
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Dogman and then, you know, a little further away. Then
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: you have UFO and then you have hauntings like in between,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: like scattered in between that, you know, known haunted locations.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like most people will accept like paranormal nowadays.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: I would say three quarters of the population would be like, yeah,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: there's that. And I would say there's like maybe 30
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: to 40% of the population would say Bigfoot. Yeah. And
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: I would say maybe it's like 5%, 10% with Dogman.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: And then like every, all the other, which are out
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: there too, you know, many, many, many, many other ones.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: I just think that you could say that once you
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: get over 50%, then it's kind of like, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: It's kind of widely accepted as being something that's real.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: And I think that Bigfoot is just the next one
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: to fall. It's too numerous to, The amount of, like, things.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, you just listen to, you know, the West's podcast,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: the Chronicles, which I listen to when I, like, wash
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: dishes and shit, or doing something around the house. It's
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: just too numerous, and I just think there's too much evidence.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: I think too many people have seen them. But it
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: is being suppressed. And people like yourself and many others,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: you know, if I was there, I'd be doing the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: same thing, to be honest with you. I think it's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: super fascinating. And I don't know, man. So what's next
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: for you? What do you got next in the pipe, man?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: I think we're going to continue to look for Bigfoot.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Like I was saying, the Bigfoot stealth camping, I want
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: to do that. I have a friend that lives down
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: in the Sam Houston National Forest. I've got a deer,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: you know, decoy that I want to put out. I've
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: got a blind, a camo blind that I want to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: try and spend the night in. It's just big enough.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: It's like four by four. So I can get my
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: cot set up in it and put that out depending on.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Where it is.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Are you going to like, you're going to loan?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Probably, yeah. I'll go up alone, put some trail cams somewhere,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: you know, they can't be seen. If you do Bigfoot research,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: Joe told me, you know, you've got to put them
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: up 15 feet higher or higher in the trees, as
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: high as you can get them up.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: Don't put them down where they can see them. Because
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: he said they can see them. He's seen them, like,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: avoid them. If he sees that they see a trap cam,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: they will avoid that part of his property. And he
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: left them out for three years. You know, we spent
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: another four years leaving them out as well. But they
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: can see them. One night, I actually camped on his property,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: and I had some creepy crap happen. As soon as
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: I put up trail cams, I put up like seven
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: trail cams. There was no way you could get into
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: my camp without being caught on a trail cam, right?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: So when I did that, all the activity died. Nothing happened.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: I was up there, what, three nights? The last night,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, this is killing this. So I took
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: them all down. And literally the next night, about 2
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning, I start hearing tree knocks and
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: stuff like that come back. And I just done a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: big bonfire with him. He went in and slept in
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: his camper. But I put, you know, I was basically asleep.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: I got up.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: It was freezing cold. And so I got up out
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: of my camp. No, something woke me up. Something woke
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: me up. I think it was a tree knock or
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: some kind of scream happened. And then I'm in a
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: huge tent. I'm in a 10 person tent. I don't
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: know why I brought such a huge tent, but I
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: had my cot laid out and I was up against
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: the wall of the tent. And I had all my
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: stuff kind of set out. It was supposed to be
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: like 20 degrees that night. Long story short, all of
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: a sudden I feel like a hand reaching through the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: tent and I feel it hit my back. My back's
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: to the back of the tent. I'm like, oh, I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: didn't move. I just froze. I was already cold, but man,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: I was frozen after that. I mean, I was just
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: not moving.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: And so I just, I didn't move. I didn't, I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: think I, I don't remember what happened, but all of
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: a sudden when it touched me, it pulled its hand
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: back really quick. It was not like a little hand.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: It was massive. I mean, it went from one side
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: of my back to like the hand and the fingers,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: the palm hit one side and it was like, that's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: not a small hand. And so I think it was–
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: that was around midnight or so.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: I've heard this before. I've heard this kind of calendar before.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: Two o'clock in the morning, I decided I had to
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: go over to his outhouse. I get up, unzip the tent,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: and I hear, it wasn't a whoop. It was a
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: weird sound. It was very similar to a whoop, but
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: it was like, whoo, whoo, like something was, you know, hey,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: he's up, he's up. They were watching me. you know,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: they knew me, they, they, I'd been going up there
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: for three plus years and they, they kind of got
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: to know me. They knew I wasn't trying to hurt
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: them in any way. And, uh, you know, it was basically,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: they were just kind of wondering what I was doing
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: more than likely. I think they wandered through, I left
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: them some apples and I left them, uh, you know,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: one of the guys that Joe knew he was a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: NASA scientist, smart damn guy. I mean, he was, Super-duper smart.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: And he said, you know, I didn't believe in Bigfoot
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: either until I moved up here. He lived in the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Sabine National Forest as well. And he had juveniles across
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: from his property. And they would come through on the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: other side of the forest and they'd climb up the
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: trees and they would carry on. They looked like monkeys,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: he said. They were only about four or five feet tall.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: But they would climb the trees and shake them back
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: and forth when they're up there and scream and holler.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: And so he used to basically take a plate, a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: paper plate. He would cover the plate with peanut butter.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: He would take a PBJ sandwich and cut off all
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: the crust and cut it into fours. Cookies like Oreos,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: nutter butters, all that stuff, grapes, apples sliced up. And
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: he would take it out there into the middle of
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: the forest and he would leave it for him. And
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: essentially he, he followed him one day. He very quietly
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: snuck in there and he saw him and they were
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: like down, crouched down and they were, like sharing the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: food back and forth, but they were giggling and all
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: this other stuff. And so he very quietly snuck back
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: out there, but yeah, I mean, so they, they, a
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: lot of the younger ones have sweet tooths. So that's
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: basically what I did. I left a whole offering of
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: a whole plate full of different sweets, you know, grapes, apples, cookies,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: and a, and a sandwich peanut butter, John sandwich would
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: never disappear. Also Joe used to report. They would pick
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: up corn and eat, eat it off of, uh, off
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: the ground. So I left a big pile of corn
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: for him on one of the stumps. They weren't so
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: happy with him because he had beautiful trees up there.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: He had these beautiful pine trees that were 150 feet tall.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, they were old. And unfortunately, they got bark
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: beetles because there wasn't a lot of rain one year.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: And his property got 70, 80 inches of rain. When
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: it rained, it poured up there. It didn't just rain.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: It just poured.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Buckets.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, it would come down in buckets. And you'd
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: have to sit there and wait. One night, he and
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: I were in his trailer, and I was sleeping on
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: his couch, and you hear this, boom! It sounded like
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: a bomb went off. And we're like, holy crap, woke
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: us both up. And we ran out there, and we're
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: looking around, and we're like, what the hell? Oh, crap.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: Thank God, one of those pine trees that was somewhat
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: in a clearing, just gone. Completely gone. All you see
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: is the stump, and it's basically just smoldering. And, you know,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: we were like, holy crap, the lightning hit the tree.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Because it was so dry, it just blew up.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: Exploded, yeah.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the sap essentially exploded. And that resin in the
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: sap is great for starting fires.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: But, man. It's a good conductor of electricity, too. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: Good luck if you're trying to put it out.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Anyways, yeah. So.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: He and I talked about it. He's like, yeah, I've
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: got bark beetles. He had a bunch of his trees.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: He had about 150 trees cut down on this property,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: which opened up this property more. But they made a
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: huge mess. The logging company made a big, mucky, muddy
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: mess of it. And the Bigfoots were not happy about it.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: And I camped up there about six months after they'd
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: done that. But a lot of their tree structures got
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: messed up. And like I said, the back of this property,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: the back left side of this property, anything that can
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: be bent over into any kind of tree that can
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: be bent over. I mean, literally stuck in the ground
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: or wrapped around the vines were wrapped around it to
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: hold it down. I mean, there was loops, loops and
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: hoops everywhere.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: And this could be found on your channel?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: 200 of them.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: It's part of the deep woods. I don't remember what
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: I called it now. We got that video has gotten
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: renamed a couple of times. So if you go on
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: the actual deep woods, paranormal YouTube channel, you can find
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: that video. It's one of our top videos. It has
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: like 18,000 views or something.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: No, go for it.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, Matt.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I want to thank you. I want to go ahead.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on tonight, my friend.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: I got to get, you're welcome. Yes. Uh, I, I'm
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: not a night owl. I've been working all day and
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: no air conditioner, man. So I'm fucking out here. I
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: appreciate you coming on, man. Please tell everybody one more
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: time where they can find you.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: So you can go on our website, deepwoodsparanormal.com. Our YouTube
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: channel is Deepwoods Paranormal. We're using the TikTok channel again.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: So that's Deepwoods Paranormal. Anything you're looking for, TikTok, YouTube.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: We're on Rumble. We do a lot of videos now
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: on our Facebook channel. We're also doing other things besides
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: paranormal stuff on there. Like we have the Paranormal Cowboy podcast.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: which I set up. He's just basically a paranormal sheriff
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: who hunts down paranormal creatures after they do things and
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: a lot of Dogman stuff in there.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: Dogman's constantly hindering him, but they're shorter videos. We're working
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: on making them two to three minute videos.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: I want to talk to this guy.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah no it's pretty funny he yeah he never seems
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: to quite you know capture the villain at the end
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: it's hilarious sounds great yeah they always seem to get
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: away from him poor guy yeah poor dog man seems
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: to be the the antagonist in this in this situation
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: most of the time so yeah you can go back
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: and watch the shorts there's more long videos coming i'm
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: in the process of I want to build about 20
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: or 30 of them so I can start giving them
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: out every two or three days. So people can actually
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: watch a series and, uh, enjoy that as well. So
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: people are telling me it's just too short. 10 second
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: videos of, you know, 10, 20 second videos is just
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: too short. So they'll between, there'll be between a minute
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: and a half and two minutes, maybe a little longer
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: depending on what we make. But, uh, Yeah, so a
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff coming to the Deepwoods Paranormal podcast and
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: the Deepwoods Paranormal channel. Our video podcast will be on there.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: Our audio channels, our audio podcasts are going over to
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: the Deepwoods Paranormal podcast YouTube channel soon. So that channel
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: will be cranked back up to only audio, only audio
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: podcasts and maybe other things.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: You made a separate channel just for the audio part.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had it for a while. It's just my
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: other channel that I started a long time ago that
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: has a little bit of investigations on it and other things,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: but mainly that'll just be for our audio podcast for
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: people who just want to sit there and listen to
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: audio podcasts. But we cover everything from UFOs to Dogman
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: to Bigfoot to hauntings to interviews and stuff like that
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: and everything kind of in between.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: Fantastic, man. I want to thank you once again so
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: very much for coming on. Do me a favor, make
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: sure you stick around at the end so I can
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: get the local recordings. All right, buddy?
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Definitely, yeah. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: It's been my pleasure. All right, guys, go out there
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: and check it out, Deep Woods Paranormal. Everywhere, just type
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: it in on Google there, and I'm sure you'll find it.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: If not AI, go ahead and listen to it when
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: you're working, and go ahead and check it out on
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: the weekends when you have nothing better to do or
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: something good to do. Like, check out the Deep Woods
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Paranormal podcast. Thank you so much, Matt. One more time,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: thank you.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, thank you.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: All right, guys. We are the eye. We are aware.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: I love you all, and enjoy the rest of your day.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: The truth is left in the ruins Buried us in
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: the lies We walk in silence till morning We can't hide.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: We can't hide, cannot hide We can't hide, cannot hide