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- 0:06Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Chaos inside a naval air
- 0:16Speaker 1: station in Pensacola. The mass shooting shocking the military base tonight,
- 0:21Speaker 1: ABC News is confirmed the gunman was Mohammed, said Al Shamrani,
- 0:24Speaker 1: a member of the Saudi Air Force in the US
- 0:27Speaker 1: for flight training. The FBI investigating terrorism as a possible motive.
- 0:32Speaker 1: A tight knit community reeling. It doesn't happen to our
- 0:36Speaker 1: friends and neighbors who are members of the United States Navy.
- 0:40Speaker 1: But it did, and it has the first call for
- 0:42Speaker 1: help coming in at six fifty one am up the
- 0:48Speaker 1: base lockdown. Police raced to the scene within five minutes.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Authority say the shooter moved through two floors of a
- 0:55Speaker 1: classroom building, an area of the base where weapons are
- 0:58Speaker 1: not allowed. Have you given me an update on possible
- 1:01Speaker 1: patient count? Over ten patients confirmed. The gunmen reportedly moved
- 1:05Speaker 1: through the building armed with a semi automatic handgut, leaving
- 1:08Speaker 1: a trail of carnage with officers chasing what it looked like.
- 1:13Speaker 1: It looked like a war zone, you know, there were
- 1:16Speaker 1: rounds everywhere. Four Sheriff's deputies coming face to face with
- 1:20Speaker 1: the gunmen engaging in a shootout. Two officers hit, one
- 1:23Speaker 1: shot in the arm, the other in the knee. Despite
- 1:26Speaker 1: being shot returning fire. The accused gunmen killed. Today we're
- 1:30Speaker 1: learning so much more about the Sauty airman who murdered
- 1:34Speaker 1: three at a naval trading center in Pensacola, Florida, having
- 1:40Speaker 1: filed a complaint earlier against a flight instructor who called
- 1:44Speaker 1: him porn stash over his bushy mustache he wore, I
- 1:50Speaker 1: mean as he grace. This is crime stories right now.
- 1:53Speaker 1: We are combing through the clues left behind a Sawdy
- 1:59Speaker 1: Prince Kola shooter infuriated after instructor gave him the moniker
- 2:05Speaker 1: porn stash. The incident goes down at the Naval air
- 2:09Speaker 1: station there in Pensacola, Florida. Joining me an all star panel.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott judge trial lawyer at Ashley Wilcott dot com.
- 2:17Speaker 1: James Shelnutt twenty seven years major case swat now lawyer.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall's psycho analyst out of LA. You can
- 2:26Speaker 1: find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. The medical
- 2:29Speaker 1: Examiner for the State of Florida, Doctor Tim Gallagher, but
- 2:32Speaker 1: straight to Amanda Hall. Joining US reporter with wi n
- 2:37Speaker 1: K TV Fort Myers, Amanda, what happened, Nancy? The gunman
- 2:42Speaker 1: is dead and the investigation is continuing. Just last night,
- 2:48Speaker 1: you know, our governor was talking about this, calling it
- 2:51Speaker 1: an act of terrorism. This happened inside of a classroom
- 2:55Speaker 1: at a Navy base, really the home of aviation, and
- 3:01Speaker 1: it's a very popular tourist attraction too for the state
- 3:04Speaker 1: of Florida. That's where the museum is. This happened on
- 3:08Speaker 1: base inside of you know, it's a tier security system
- 3:12Speaker 1: for people to get on and off, and so for
- 3:15Speaker 1: something like this to happen, it is really shocked the
- 3:19Speaker 1: entire state of Florida. Take a listen to an eye witness.
- 3:24Speaker 1: This is Jeff Burgosh, who was a contractor there listening. Well,
- 3:29Speaker 1: it's been pretty surreal. I've worked out here as a
- 3:31Speaker 1: contractor employee for about fifteen years for various contracts out here,
- 3:35Speaker 1: and this morning was like no other. I mean, you know,
- 3:38Speaker 1: your regular Friday coming on board the base at about
- 3:40Speaker 1: ten till seven, and then suddenly everything went gridlock. All
- 3:44Speaker 1: the traffic came to complete stop, and then Nabe Boulevard,
- 3:47Speaker 1: which is the artery coming aboard the station, became a
- 3:49Speaker 1: parking lot, and the traffic going the other direction suddenly
- 3:53Speaker 1: was overwhelmed. I saw at least fifty probably more police
- 3:59Speaker 1: vehicles analysis squat teams coming screaming down the opposite side
- 4:04Speaker 1: of the road, And of course I was worried about
- 4:06Speaker 1: my employees that were on the base, half of us
- 4:08Speaker 1: were on the way to work, half of us and
- 4:10Speaker 1: already got there. So just a lot of just a
- 4:13Speaker 1: lot of chaos. But I can tell you I'm proud
- 4:16Speaker 1: to report we had an overwhelming response to this. The
- 4:19Speaker 1: community came to the to the aid of the station,
- 4:22Speaker 1: and uh, just just just amazing the overwhelming response. But
- 4:27Speaker 1: it's it's as you hear in the background, there's still
- 4:30Speaker 1: speaking over the station's loudspeaker. We've seen fire ambulances go by,
- 4:36Speaker 1: We've seen emergency vehicles, We've seen I've seen at least
- 4:40Speaker 1: two Lifelight helicopters. So unfortunately, I know there's uh multiple shootings,
- 4:45Speaker 1: multiple casualties, and we're just praying for all the victims.
- 4:48Speaker 1: What a horrible scene that developed our friends at MSNBC.
- 4:52Speaker 1: But now take a listen to reporter Boyne Alexander chilling
- 4:57Speaker 1: new details about the man investigators believe carried it out,
- 5:02Speaker 1: law enforcement officials tell NBC News. In the past week,
- 5:05Speaker 1: the shooter, Mohammed said alsham Rani, a Saudi national, invited
- 5:09Speaker 1: three other Saudis to his home for dinner, where he
- 5:12Speaker 1: showed them videos of mass shootings. Officials say he regularly
- 5:16Speaker 1: socialized with the three, but after a recent trip to
- 5:19Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, he returned more pious and was no longer
- 5:22Speaker 1: interested in hanging out with them. Officials do not believe
- 5:26Speaker 1: they were involved, and say alsham Rani acted alone. Those
- 5:30Speaker 1: same officials confirm the handgun used in Friday's attack was
- 5:34Speaker 1: legally purchased from a gun dealer in Pensacola, typically illegal
- 5:38Speaker 1: for a non citizen, but alsham Rani exploited a loophole
- 5:42Speaker 1: that allowed him to buy it because he has a
- 5:44Speaker 1: hunting license. Officials are not confirming this as an act
- 5:48Speaker 1: of terrorism, but believe a social media post declaring America's
- 5:52Speaker 1: love for Israel and hatred for Islam was written by
- 5:55Speaker 1: alsham Rani. We're learning more about those in the gunman's path,
- 6:00Speaker 1: among them Ryan Blackwell, an assistant wrestling coach, and Charles Hogue,
- 6:04Speaker 1: a police officer on base, both recovering tonight and twenty
- 6:09Speaker 1: three year old Joshua Caleb Watson, who never made it home.
- 6:12Speaker 1: In a touching Facebook post, his brother describes Watson's final
- 6:16Speaker 1: moments after being shot multiple times. He made it outside
- 6:20Speaker 1: and told the first response team where the shooter was.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Those details were invaluable. He died a hero. Three people.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Dad straight out to Amanda haul Wiktv. Where does the
- 6:33Speaker 1: investigation stand right now? Nancy? That base is still a
- 6:36Speaker 1: crime scene. The FBI is on scene. They're analyzing footage
- 6:42Speaker 1: from both surveillance cameras around the base as well as
- 6:46Speaker 1: cell phone footage taken by bystanders as the shooting was unfolding,
- 6:51Speaker 1: and we know they have many interviews less to conduct.
- 6:54Speaker 1: We know as of Saturday, at least ten Sabi Arabian
- 6:58Speaker 1: flight students were being questioned and interviewed, and we know
- 7:02Speaker 1: that they're looking at what was he doing in the
- 7:04Speaker 1: days leading up to this. We know that he took
- 7:07Speaker 1: a trip to New York. He visited the nine to
- 7:09Speaker 1: eleven Memorial while he was there, and the night before
- 7:12Speaker 1: the shooting, he hosted some fellow students for dinner and
- 7:17Speaker 1: showed video of mass shooting. Oh My Stars to doctor
- 7:20Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, psycho analyst joining us from LA. You can
- 7:24Speaker 1: find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. What do
- 7:28Speaker 1: you make of all of his behavior leading up to
- 7:31Speaker 1: the shooting, I'm referring to I'm mad Muhammad al SHAMRANI. Well,
- 7:36Speaker 1: what I make of it is that lone will terrorists
- 7:39Speaker 1: and mass murders have quite a bit in common. Lone
- 7:43Speaker 1: will terrorists are less likely to tell other people before
- 7:48Speaker 1: committing the event, so bringing friends to dinner showing pictures
- 7:52Speaker 1: of mass murders sort of breaking about this would be
- 7:54Speaker 1: more in line with the mass murder. However, he moved
- 8:00Speaker 1: all the way to the United States to conscript into
- 8:03Speaker 1: the service. And we know that lone wolf terrorists actually
- 8:08Speaker 1: use geospatial distance to gain proximity to the victims. I
- 8:14Speaker 1: don't know what you mean by that geospatial distance. Geospatial
- 8:18Speaker 1: they tend to move from one country to the next.
- 8:22Speaker 1: They won't commit the crime in their own country because
- 8:25Speaker 1: they don't hate their own people, but they will move
- 8:27Speaker 1: from one continent to another to infiltrate the people that
- 8:31Speaker 1: they hate in order to commit the murders. What do
- 8:34Speaker 1: we know about al Sharmani's movements leading up to the
- 8:40Speaker 1: terror shooting. Law enforce and officials say they're continuing to
- 8:44Speaker 1: follow leads that may help them understand exactly why the
- 8:47Speaker 1: gunman opened fire here at the Naval air station. Authorities
- 8:51Speaker 1: say they're taking a look at his social media footprint,
- 8:53Speaker 1: his writings online where he expressed anti America hate, his
- 8:57Speaker 1: phone records, but also his classmates. This morning, several classmates
- 9:02Speaker 1: of the Naval Air Station Pencacola gunmen are now undergoing
- 9:06Speaker 1: FBI questioning. After Friday's deadly attack, the Saudi national part
- 9:10Speaker 1: of a training program for international military personnel here in
- 9:14Speaker 1: the US, opened fire, killing three US Navy sailors and
- 9:18Speaker 1: injuring eight others, including law enforcement officers. Investigators looking into
- 9:23Speaker 1: whether the attack was motivated by terror. The FBI now
- 9:27Speaker 1: retracing the steps of twenty one year old Mohammed al Shamrani,
- 9:30Speaker 1: a second lieutenant in the Royal Saudi Air Force, including
- 9:34Speaker 1: a recent trip to New York City where he visited
- 9:36Speaker 1: several attractions that visit now believed to be tourist in nature.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Al Shamrani killing twenty three year old and Saint Joshua
- 9:44Speaker 1: Watson nineteen year old Airman Mohammed Samhaifam and twenty one
- 9:48Speaker 1: year old Airman Apprentice Cameron Walters, all students at the
- 9:52Speaker 1: Naval Aviation School's command. The shooter then exchanging gunfire with
- 9:57Speaker 1: sheriff's deputies, who eventually killed him. Do you believe the
- 10:00Speaker 1: threat in your community has been eliminated right now? I'm not.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I'm not prepared to make a statement affirmatively or negatively
- 10:09Speaker 1: on that. You know, we're in consultation with the FBI.
- 10:12Speaker 1: But I have additional questions that I want to ask.
- 10:14Speaker 1: You're hearing from our friends at ABC's GMA. That was
- 10:17Speaker 1: reporter Stephanie ramos So to Amanda Hall, reporter w I
- 10:21Speaker 1: n K TV. What do we know? We know that
- 10:24Speaker 1: he went to New York City, went to the nine
- 10:26Speaker 1: one one Memorial, He had a watch party just before
- 10:33Speaker 1: the shooting. How many people came, How close to the
- 10:37Speaker 1: shooting was the watch party and what did they watch? Amanda, Well,
- 10:41Speaker 1: this is disturbing, Nancy. That trip to New York, although
- 10:45Speaker 1: the report said it was tourism in nature, was two
- 10:49Speaker 1: days before he committed this heinous act. So to see
- 10:54Speaker 1: the nine eleven Memorial and to look at the pictures
- 10:57Speaker 1: of those hijackers two days before. For this, you know,
- 11:01Speaker 1: whether you can really make the connection or not, it's
- 11:04Speaker 1: still disturbing. And then the night before he hosts three
- 11:08Speaker 1: other Saudi flight students for dinner and shows videos of
- 11:15Speaker 1: other mass shootings. The night before this happened in the
- 11:19Speaker 1: morning of Friday. Friday morning, so this would have been
- 11:23Speaker 1: Thursday night, So he hosted three other Saudy students there
- 11:26Speaker 1: at the flight school for dinner and a mash shooting
- 11:29Speaker 1: video fest. I understand that there are ten Saudi International
- 11:34Speaker 1: Flight students still under FI questioning. Is that correct, Amanda?
- 11:38Speaker 1: That is, as of Saturday, they were still being held
- 11:40Speaker 1: for questions. What could be a possible mode of Amanda Hall?
- 11:44Speaker 1: What if anything have we learned? Well, we've learned that
- 11:47Speaker 1: he had writings on social media, on Twitter where he
- 11:51Speaker 1: was quoting Osama bin Laden. There was a manifesto posted
- 11:56Speaker 1: right before the shooting calling America a nation of evil,
- 12:00Speaker 1: saying he hated America for crimes against Muslims and hated
- 12:05Speaker 1: America for crimes against humanity, hated America for crimes against Muslims.
- 12:11Speaker 1: How the hey did he even get in, Amanda? I
- 12:13Speaker 1: don't understand it. Well, it's not unusual. There are a
- 12:16Speaker 1: lot of foreigners who train with the US military, but
- 12:21Speaker 1: you are led to believe that they are well vetted
- 12:24Speaker 1: by their own countries. Of course, he had a vista,
- 12:27Speaker 1: and that they are well vetted when they get here.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Certainly that is something right now that our Department of
- 12:34Speaker 1: Defense is looking at. Another question I was, how the
- 12:37Speaker 1: hey did he get a weapon? Crime Stories with Nancy
- 12:56Speaker 1: Grace typically to you, James Shelna, twenty seven years Atlanta
- 13:06Speaker 1: Metro major case swat officer, now lawyer, What do you
- 13:10Speaker 1: normally have to do to get a weapon in this country?
- 13:12Speaker 1: You know, if you're a citizen, you know, it depends.
- 13:15Speaker 1: You know, you can obviously good buy a weapon if
- 13:18Speaker 1: you're of age to do it and you're not otherwise disqualified,
- 13:21Speaker 1: it's very easy, you know. The question is how does
- 13:23Speaker 1: a foreign national get a weapon when they're not a
- 13:26Speaker 1: citizen and there is a freak law that allows foreign
- 13:30Speaker 1: nationals to obtain a gun for the purposes of hunting
- 13:34Speaker 1: while they are here in this country. The bothersome part
- 13:37Speaker 1: of that is that not a lot of people do
- 13:40Speaker 1: game hunting with a forty five caliber glock, which is
- 13:43Speaker 1: what this guy bought, a forty five caliber glock. You're
- 13:48Speaker 1: so right, that is not a hunting weapon. Take a
- 13:50Speaker 1: listen to our friend Morgan Radford and NBC News. As
- 13:54Speaker 1: the investigation unfolds, there are still many questions unanswered. Was
- 13:59Speaker 1: it terrorism? Is it safe now you know? And do
- 14:02Speaker 1: we have everybody identifying? Law Enforcement officials tell NBC News
- 14:05Speaker 1: that the shooter, Muhammad al Shamrani, a Saudi Arabian national,
- 14:09Speaker 1: return from a visit back home in February more pious
- 14:13Speaker 1: than ever before, and they say last week he invited
- 14:17Speaker 1: three Saldi friends to his home for dinner, where they
- 14:19Speaker 1: watched videos of mass shootings. Officials do not believe the
- 14:23Speaker 1: friends were involved and say they think al sham Rami
- 14:26Speaker 1: acted alone. NBC News has learned that he legally purchased
- 14:30Speaker 1: the gun used in the attack from a dealer in Pensacola.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Non citizens normally cannot buy handguns, but al sham Rami
- 14:37Speaker 1: exploited a loophole that lets foreigners with the hunting license
- 14:40Speaker 1: obtain them. That hurts me so much to know our
- 14:44Speaker 1: laws were used against us. To Ashley Wilcot, judge, trial
- 14:48Speaker 1: lawyer anchor Court TV at Ashley Wilcot dot com Way
- 14:51Speaker 1: in Nancy. You know, I can't even begin to say
- 14:53Speaker 1: how much it frustrates me. And this happens with different
- 14:56Speaker 1: laws on the books and different states, and the federal
- 14:58Speaker 1: laws the loophole, and the reality is those who are
- 15:02Speaker 1: drafting laws and then voting on laws have got to
- 15:05Speaker 1: make certain and do a much better job at ensuring
- 15:09Speaker 1: there are no loopholes to allow people like this, who
- 15:12Speaker 1: aren't even citizens, to get the firearms to commit crimes. Well,
- 15:17Speaker 1: apparently we have figured out something the FBI is still
- 15:20Speaker 1: trying to figure out, and that's how he got a gun.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Take a listen to CBS reporter David Benett this morning.
- 15:26Speaker 1: The FBI is trying to determine how a foreign national
- 15:29Speaker 1: obtained a handgun, which is prohibited by law, and brought
- 15:32Speaker 1: it onto the base. According to the Middle East Media
- 15:35Speaker 1: Research Institute, someone matching al Shamrani's identity had an extensive
- 15:40Speaker 1: online footprint. In a Twitter post, the writer says, Oh,
- 15:45Speaker 1: American people, I hate you because every day you supporting
- 15:50Speaker 1: funding and committing crimes not only against Muslims but also humanity.
- 15:54Speaker 1: As of this morning, federal officials are not saying what
- 15:57Speaker 1: happened here was an act of terror. We are prepared
- 16:00Speaker 1: at this hour to confirm what may have motivated the
- 16:05Speaker 1: shooter to commit this horrific act. Today, the investigators are
- 16:09Speaker 1: looking for any signs of radicalization going back to Alsham
- 16:12Speaker 1: Rannie's upbringing in Saudi Arabia. King Salmon of Saudi Arabia
- 16:16Speaker 1: called President Trump after the shooting. The King said that
- 16:20Speaker 1: the Sony people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions
- 16:23Speaker 1: of the shooter and that this person, in no way,
- 16:26Speaker 1: shape or form represents the feelings of the Sony people.
- 16:30Speaker 1: And the hall reporter wi KTV. At least one student was,
- 16:34Speaker 1: we think anyway recording as a shooting transpired. What can
- 16:38Speaker 1: you tell us about that, Yes, Nancy, at least one,
- 16:41Speaker 1: possibly two students were recording when the shooting unfolded. What
- 16:47Speaker 1: remains to be seen is whether either of these people
- 16:50Speaker 1: were recording before it happened to indicate that they knew
- 16:55Speaker 1: that this was going to happen, or if this is
- 16:58Speaker 1: something that started to unfold and they did what a
- 17:01Speaker 1: lot of people do these days, and they pulled out
- 17:04Speaker 1: their cell phones and hit record as it was unfolding,
- 17:08Speaker 1: and during the chaos that ensued on that navel. Well,
- 17:13Speaker 1: Amanda Hall, that's very, very disturbing. I never thought that
- 17:17Speaker 1: they may have been recording before the shooting broke out.
- 17:21Speaker 1: How do you know that they're searching the video for that. Well,
- 17:24Speaker 1: we know that that's one of the things that the
- 17:26Speaker 1: FBI is looking at, and we know because it was
- 17:30Speaker 1: released during press conferences over the weekend, that that's something
- 17:34Speaker 1: that they're still looking at. All indications at this point
- 17:38Speaker 1: today are that the recordings were that of a bystander
- 17:44Speaker 1: who saw something happening, pulled out a cell phone and
- 17:47Speaker 1: hit record. I'd be curious to find out, Amanda Hall,
- 17:49Speaker 1: if one of the people that recorded the shooting were
- 17:53Speaker 1: one of the people he had over the very night
- 17:56Speaker 1: before the shooting. And you say the shooting is on
- 17:59Speaker 1: a fry day and he had them over for dinner
- 18:01Speaker 1: that Thursday night. Yes, that is that. That is one
- 18:03Speaker 1: of the people one of the bystanders I was just
- 18:05Speaker 1: referring to, were with the shooter the night before. And
- 18:09Speaker 1: you know, we're shown the videos of the mass shootings
- 18:13Speaker 1: at that dinner party. If you will, so one of
- 18:16Speaker 1: the people recording the shooting, we're one of the same
- 18:21Speaker 1: of the Saudi students that were at his home the
- 18:25Speaker 1: night before. Correct, Nancy, You also have to bear in
- 18:27Speaker 1: mind though, that these are you know, his colleagues. They
- 18:31Speaker 1: are people who maybe should have been right in that place,
- 18:34Speaker 1: right at the same time, inconsequentially, because they were, you know,
- 18:39Speaker 1: taking classes together and because they were comrades. I'd also
- 18:43Speaker 1: be curious, Amanda Hall, as to where that student that
- 18:46Speaker 1: was recording was during the shooting. Were they hiding, Were
- 18:49Speaker 1: they out in the open knowing they wouldn't get shot.
- 18:52Speaker 1: That's interesting, Nancy. The best indication that we have right
- 18:57Speaker 1: now is that one of the people who recorded was
- 19:01Speaker 1: outside of the classroom. We don't know what kind of
- 19:04Speaker 1: position they were in, if they were, if they were hiding,
- 19:07Speaker 1: if they knew that there would be something going on
- 19:09Speaker 1: inside so they were outside. That's something that the FBI
- 19:13Speaker 1: is going to be looking at very very closely. The
- 19:16Speaker 1: other possible video from one of the people that was
- 19:21Speaker 1: at that mass shooting watch party the night before seems
- 19:25Speaker 1: to have come from a vehicle that wasn't in the
- 19:30Speaker 1: direct proximity, So that will be very interesting, and all
- 19:34Speaker 1: things that we have to just be patient and wait for.
- 19:38Speaker 1: As the FBI confirmed information. So, Amanda, you're telling me
- 19:43Speaker 1: with me, Amanda Hall, investigative reporter wi KTV Fort Myers, Amanda,
- 19:48Speaker 1: you're telling me that two of the people that were
- 19:50Speaker 1: recording the mass shooting were, in fact two of the
- 19:53Speaker 1: students over at Ahmed Muhammad Ashmani's home the night before.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Two of the recorders a dinner with him the night before. Yes,
- 20:03Speaker 1: the Defense secretary says one or two Saudi nationals were recording,
- 20:08Speaker 1: and you believe they were the ones over at dinner. Yes,
- 20:11Speaker 1: the Defense secretary confirmed that. He said that they were
- 20:14Speaker 1: part of that group who not only were at that dinner,
- 20:17Speaker 1: they're part of the group who went to New York
- 20:19Speaker 1: a couple of days before. WHOA So they went to
- 20:22Speaker 1: New York with him to the nine on one Memorial
- 20:25Speaker 1: we believe, and then had the mass shooting video fest
- 20:31Speaker 1: the night before at his home. Let me ask you this,
- 20:34Speaker 1: Amanda Hall, wik at this juncture, is the working theory
- 20:39Speaker 1: that Alshamranie worked alone. That's the best information that we
- 20:43Speaker 1: have from the FBI. We know that there are more
- 20:47Speaker 1: than a hundred FBI personnel working this between different field offices.
- 20:52Speaker 1: But right now we're being told that there is no
- 20:57Speaker 1: indication that he had help, and that he has not
- 21:00Speaker 1: connected to a larger group or network. I'm sure that
- 21:04Speaker 1: the families of Airman Mohammed Sammy hey Thom just nineteen,
- 21:10Speaker 1: Aermon apprentice Cameron Scott Walters just twenty one, and Ensign
- 21:14Speaker 1: Joshua Caleb Watson just twenty three are anxiously awaiting the
- 21:20Speaker 1: truth through their grief. We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy
- 21:27Speaker 1: Grace crime story, signing off Goodbye friend,