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Elon Musk discusses illegal immigration, Politics and More · Elon Musk Podcast

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  Hey everybody. Welcome back to the Elon Musk
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  Podcast. This is a show where we discuss
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  the critical crossroads, the Shape, SpaceX, Tesla X, The
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  Boring Company, and Neuralink. I'm your host, Will Walden.
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  Yeah, I mean, if if anyone here has been through the legal
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  immigration process, I I mean, I've been been through it.
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  It's only gotten worse since 911.
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  And with COVID, it's, it's a, it's, it's a sort of Kafka,
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  Kafka esque, very long, bizarre process to immigrate legally to
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  the USI mean, I have friends of mine who, you know, they, they
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  can't get their, their wife to have a green card.
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  It's like insane. So on the other hand, it's you,
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  you can hop across the border in the South trivially.
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  It's just like very easy. I went to the border myself just
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  to see like what's going on? Is this real or like, is this
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  propaganda or real? And so I just went there and I'm
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  like, oh, it is real. OK.
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  This is crazy. You know, we've got situations
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  where people are pouring across the the border like it's World
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  War Z and I'm like, it just doesn't seem healthy.
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  So I'm like, are we checking anyone here or like, what's
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  going on? And, you know, we don't.
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  This is not say that. I mean, I'm a big believer in
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  immigration, but to have unvetted immigration at large
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  scale is a recipe for disaster. So I'm in favor of greatly
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  expediting legal immigration, but but having a secure southern
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  border. So there's there's some betting
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  of who comes into the United States.
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  I think this is just sensible. All right, let's let's now link,
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  star link to education. We're basically building the
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  Internet in space. Why it matters?
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  Starlink is a massive enabler for people in remote locations
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  to learn anything. You can learn almost anything
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  for free on the Internet right now.
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  For example, MIT has all of its lessons online.
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  That's if you have Internet. If you don't, you're limited to
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  books. It might be the number one
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  technology that improves people's standard of living
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  around the world. Starlink.
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  Yeah, absolutely. So once you have access to the
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  Internet, you have access to all the world's information.
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  But if you don't have access to the Internet or it's too
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  expensive or low bandwidth, then you you cannot access the MIT
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  lessons, you can't access all the information and you can't
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  sell the goods and services that you produce.
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  So Internet connectivity, I think is I think it might be
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  certainly a candidate for one of the things that would do more to
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  lift people out of poverty, out of poverty than anything else.
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  Because they can now sell their goods and services, they can
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  learn anything and but without connectivity, they cannot.
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  So I think, I think, I think Starling will actually like like
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  move the GDP of countries like it's going to be that kind of
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  thing because what is what is GDP as a, as a function of
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  average productivity per person. And so if there's a technology
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  that improves productivity per person, you would expect to see
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  that actually reflected in the gross domestic product?
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  All right, civilization is fragile.
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  I think it is. We should always regard
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  civilization as fragile. Yeah, There is not an inevitable
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  upward trajectory. A lot of civilizations have
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  risen and fallen in recent years.
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  Yes, I I suspect most people in this room have actually read
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  history, but if you haven't, I strongly recommend it.
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  It sounds obvious, but you know, there's, there's been, but so
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  many civilizations that have risen and fallen, many that we
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  just don't have much of a record of, you know, like I mentioned,
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  the ancient Sumerians, like their language was forgotten for
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  a long time until it was finally decoded only in the last, I
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  don't know, 2-3 hundred years, but like it's not 1800 and
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  something right in the 1800s, I think, but it's been very
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  recent. Like so for several thousand
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  years, nobody understood what those tablets meant.
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  And because there were the ruins of a long dead civilization and
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  there are many long dead civilizations, at some point our
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  civilization will come to an end too.
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  We just don't want it to be anytime soon.
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  So. Well, you've been quoted a
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  number of times, Elon, on You'd like to die on Mars, but not on
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  landing. Yes, yes, I was.
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  I was asked that in an interview if I wanted to die on Mars, but
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  then I considered the corner case of dying on impact.
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  And I'm like, except for that case, you know, you got to
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  consider the various corner cases.
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  So I mean, if I'm going to, if you're going to die somewhere,
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  might as well be Mars. I'd like to explore for a bit
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  before, you know, dying. But yeah, I think we want to be
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  a multi planet civilization and like I think.
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  I don't know if that's the. Response from.
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  The audience let's let's talk about that just for one second,
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  then we're going to take some questions from.
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  The I mean, I could accomplish this actually this year if I if
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  I was willing to die on impact. The fundamental invention that
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  is necessary for humanity to become a multi planet species is
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  rapidly reusable, reliable rockets.
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  Yeah, I was trying to sound like a pirate RRRRR.
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  But yeah, rapidly reusable, reliable rockets.
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  So Space Pirates for the win. All right, here's some questions
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  from the Audience Salon. Which one would you like to pick
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  here? Well, I guess let me let me let
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  me just touch upon why I think making life multiplanetary is
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  important, because I think it's one of the things that gets us
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  past one of the Fermi great filters.
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  So in, in trying to sort of explain why do we not see
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  aliens, there are various explanations for why we don't
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  see aliens. Like what stopped those
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  civilizations from from expanding beyond their solar
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  system and, and, and, and what were the what were the sort of
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  sometimes called like Fermi filters?
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  Well, if you don't become a multi planet civilization, then
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  you're then you're simply waiting around until you, you
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  die from a self-inflicted wound or from some natural disaster
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  like the dinosaurs. You get hit by a big meteorite
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  or something like that. The eventually something like
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  that's going to happen if and if you wait a lot around long
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  enough, the sun will expand to to engulf Earth and will be
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  incinerated. So that that for sure is going
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  to happen. Now that'll we've, we've got a
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  we've got some time before that happens.
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  There are more near term risks, but we want to try to get past
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  the Fermi filter of being a single planet civilization.
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  Now this is going to this is all set.
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  This is going to be somewhat cerebral to many people
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  listening. But I mean, if but like, I think
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  this is pretty, this is actually very important.
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  We want to get past the Fermi filter of a single planet
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  civilization. The point is not to to move from
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  Earth to another planet and let Earth die.
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  That's not what I'm saying at all.
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  I want to be a multi planet civilization so that we have
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  planetary redundancy such that no single event can end can be
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  the end of our civilization. Hey, thank you so much for
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