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Mark interviews NY Post columnist Michael Goodwin. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Mister New York. He's on the game, the Marc Simone
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  Speaker 1: Show on SEVR. Well. Michael Goodwin, the finest columnist in America.
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  Speaker 1: You can read them every Sunday and every Wednesday in
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  Speaker 1: the New York Post. All his columns are up on
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  Speaker 1: the New York Post website. Michael Goodwin, How you doing.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Mark? Thank you?
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  Speaker 1: Hey. What was that famous saying the Palestinians never miss
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity, to miss an opportunity?
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  Speaker 2: Ah? Yes, one of my favorite lines, and I think
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  Speaker 2: we could say with confidence it seems to be applying
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  Speaker 2: here in the current situation.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. You've disagreement, it's I think it's
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  Speaker 1: the best you could get right now. And congratulations of
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  Speaker 1: President Trump for pushing it. But we've done this way,
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  Speaker 1: haven't we been down this road before and it never
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  Speaker 1: holds up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Look, I think the even line that you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: is certainly applies. The Palestinians and the Hamas in particular,
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  Speaker 2: want to be the skunk at the garden party here
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  Speaker 2: when you have so many endorsers of this deal, enthusiastic
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  Speaker 2: endorsers Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, even cutter you would
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  Speaker 2: think that would that would create the momentum. And certainly
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  Speaker 2: President Trump and Steve Whitcoffin Gared Koshner, who did the negotiations,
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  Speaker 2: thought that they had pretty much a water tight deal
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  Speaker 2: twenty points and beginning with the hostage release and the
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  Speaker 2: broad agreement. I think Mark was with a great achievement,
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  Speaker 2: achievement in and of itself, and HAMAS sent what I
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  Speaker 2: believe was a false signal on Friday that it would
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  Speaker 2: it would move on the hostage release. It was ready
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  Speaker 2: to do that, and then it said but and the
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  Speaker 2: butt seems to go on endlessly. It is calling for
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  Speaker 2: renegotiating what looks to me like the heart of the deal. Otherwise. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I think a hostage release would be a great thing
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  Speaker 2: in and of itself if there were an exchange. But
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  Speaker 2: if that doesn't work, why would any of the other
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  Speaker 2: pieces work, which ultimately get to disarmament of HAMAS and
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  Speaker 2: civil administrators and no role for HAMAS and the governance.
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  Speaker 2: So if they can't even complete the first step, there's
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  Speaker 2: no hope of them completing the other steps. So I
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  Speaker 2: think that's why this thing has been bogged down, and
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  Speaker 2: you get yet a new round of negotiations. I think
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  Speaker 2: that the Hamas strategy is just to negotiate this till
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  Speaker 2: everybody gets tired of it and then walk away from it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they want peace. I don't think they
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  Speaker 2: want a settlement because it's the end of their power.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, even I guess the end result of
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  Speaker 1: all this thing would be a two state solution. Didn't
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  Speaker 1: we just try a two state solution for twenty years
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  Speaker 1: and look how it ended?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Gaza was a two state solution, right.
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  Speaker 2: It was a Palestinian state, and it became a terrorist state,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what it remains. And to the of course,
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  Speaker 2: great detriment and deaths of many civilians there who either
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  Speaker 2: went along or had no choice but to go along
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  Speaker 2: with the Hamas rule. And so we're coming up tomorrow, right,
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  Speaker 2: is the two year anniversary of October seventh. The horrors
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  Speaker 2: of that day and all of what we have witnessed
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  Speaker 2: sins can be traced back to that decision by Hamas
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  Speaker 2: to invade, to take the hostages, to slaughter innocent civilians.
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  Speaker 2: Mostly of the twelve hundred Israeli they killed, most of
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  Speaker 2: them were civilians. And so this is the fruits of
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  Speaker 2: that poison tree, and Hamas doesn't seem ready to let go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. It's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: interesting week with that. Hey, let me ask you about
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  Speaker 1: the mayoral race this. You know, it looks like people
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  Speaker 1: are starting to think when Adams dropped out, half those
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  Speaker 1: votes might go to Cuomo and half might go to Mamdani.
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  Speaker 1: And there's this myth that if Curtis drops out, suddenly
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  Speaker 1: Cuomo will get all those votes. Most of these Curtis
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  Speaker 1: voters are not going to Cuomo. They'll pretty much just
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  Speaker 1: stay home. What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think that Cuomo probably benefited more from the
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  Speaker 2: Atoms withdrawal, or will I should say when the votes
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  Speaker 2: are actually tangulating. I mean Adams was running at about
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  Speaker 2: ten percent in the polls. Half of that, of course,
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  Speaker 2: would be five points for Cuomo. I suspect it'll be
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  Speaker 2: more than that because it won't just be the Adams voters.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the net effect of Adams dropping out
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  Speaker 2: is it makes Cuomo look like has an easier path
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  Speaker 2: to the election. Now, obviously you're right that if Fleawah
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  Speaker 2: stays in and he's there's no reason to think he's
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  Speaker 2: going to change his mind. Yet I still think it's
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  Speaker 2: going to end up with Mam Donnie winning. There's no
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  Speaker 2: way that either one of them can top Mom Donnie,
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  Speaker 2: who I think alone, because I think he's probably got
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  Speaker 2: a floor of somewhere around forty percent. And so if
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  Speaker 2: two people are going to divide the remaining sixty percent,
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  Speaker 2: neither one of them is going to get there the
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  Speaker 2: way it looks now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now the other thing is, you know de Blasio,
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  Speaker 1: people like that get elected because you've got eighteen turnout
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  Speaker 1: and just the left turns out. If you could go
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  Speaker 1: back to the good old days of seventy five eighty
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  Speaker 1: percent turnout, don't you think that could make a difference.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yes, a turnout could could swamp the you know
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  Speaker 2: all these predictions. I mean, it is worth noting marked
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  Speaker 2: that when Rudy Giuliani and David Dinkins had their rematch
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three, where Giuliani won, there were on
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  Speaker 2: the order of one point eight to one point nine
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  Speaker 2: million votes cast. In more recent and more recent elections,
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  Speaker 2: there have been one point one million votes. Now, think
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  Speaker 2: about that the city has grown dramatically since nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 2: three by probably close to a million people, and yet
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  Speaker 2: the voting totals are still far less. And so if
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  Speaker 2: you were to get a big turnout that the perils
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  Speaker 2: of a big turnout are that there's enthusiasm, more enthusiasm
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  Speaker 2: for Mom Donnie than there is anyone else, and so
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  Speaker 2: a big turnout could could actually mean more mam Donnie voters.
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  Speaker 2: So I think, absent a two person race, Mam Donni
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  Speaker 2: looks like inevitable from this point of view.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what happens. The only thing that could
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  Speaker 1: change the course of things might be the debate October sixteenth.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. And look, I think Cuomo has done a
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  Speaker 2: better job of He's been more active and jumping on
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  Speaker 2: these things with Mom Donnie. Some of the things Mamdani.
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  Speaker 2: You know that the post covered today of mam Donni
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  Speaker 2: with the Ugandan leader who hates gays, you have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with the whole issue of globalizing into fada. So there's
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  Speaker 2: just there's just a lot. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: ghosts or in mam Donni's closets, and I think they
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  Speaker 2: could really hurt him, and I think Cuomo is doing
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  Speaker 2: a better job of bringing them out and seizing on
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  Speaker 2: it and highlighting it. So it really as a warning
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  Speaker 2: to mom Donnie voters, Look, this is what you're buying.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is the guy you're supporting. Really you
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  Speaker 2: want this guy? Uh, particularly the young people on the left.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you want to you want to get you
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  Speaker 2: want to be in bed with some guy who who
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  Speaker 2: who hangs around the people who hate and persecute gays?
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  Speaker 2: Is that Is that what the New Revolution is about?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. So. I think the question is
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  Speaker 2: can Mam Donnie survive what's probably going to be a
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  Speaker 2: NonStop attack for the next month.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Michael Goodwin, great stuff. You ever go read
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  Speaker 1: his column. It's in Yesterday's New York Post. It's up
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  Speaker 1: on the website about Hamas and Israel. It's a great
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  Speaker 1: column and you can read them every Sunday every Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: in the New York Post. Michael Goodwin, thanks for being.
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  Speaker 2: With us, my place for Mark. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Take care. Hey. Coming up in the next hour, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Shannon will be with us. In the next hour.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to Taylor Swift, we'll get the Mark Sanchez story,
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  Speaker 1: we'll go over that, and we'll get to the mayoral
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  Speaker 1: race again. We'll get to New Jersey. We'll get to
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump and the Navy speech boy that drove the
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  Speaker 1: left nuts yesterday. We'll get to that. Coming up. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to Portland and Chicago and more. Just ahead on
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  Speaker 1: seven to ten WR