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Show Rewind 10-21-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news on one oh three
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  Speaker 1: five FM and five sixty a.m.
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  Speaker 2: W.V.O.C. Columbia and ninety four three W.S.C. Charleston. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, let me push that button. I get so many buttons.
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  Speaker 3: I got to push over here, Christopher. Welcome back to it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get after it. South Carolina. It's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a great day. Donald Trump in South Carolina a little
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  Speaker 3: bit later on today. Christopher, I just literally got off
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  Speaker 3: the phone about 60 seconds ago with one congressman from
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina who people seem to have a lot of
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  Speaker 3: interest in what his thoughts are. His name is Ralph Norman.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And so we will be playing parts of that back
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  Speaker 3: on the show here throughout the morning. But I also
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  Speaker 3: want you to know I am posting it as we speak.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually being processed and going up. As a podcast,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to get the entire 15 minutes or
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  Speaker 3: so with Congressman Norman, he really does kind of put
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  Speaker 3: a point on his clarification about his position on Darlene Graham,
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  Speaker 3: his position on the GOP in general, his thoughts on
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump. We've got all of that on the national briefing,
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  Speaker 3: and that is spelt like my name, N-A-S-H-I-O-N-A-L. The national briefing,
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  Speaker 3: it's exclusively, I believe it's exclusively on the iHeartRadio app,
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  Speaker 3: although I have heard some other people say that it
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  Speaker 3: might be up on other formats. I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: that would happen. I only upload it to iHeartRadio, but
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  Speaker 3: maybe somebody is stealing my content.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well, I'm curious to see what the congressman
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  Speaker 4: had to say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to that coming up. And I'm wondering
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  Speaker 3: how people are feeling this morning. Are there people who
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  Speaker 3: are planning to go up to the event tonight? It's
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  Speaker 3: in Pendleton, right? It's not actually in Clemson. It's in Pendleton.
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  Speaker 4: Correct. Which is close.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's close. But it's also in a basically a
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  Speaker 3: livestock arena, which is not the typical setting of a
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  Speaker 3: Trump rally.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I also, I put up yesterday, I thought this was
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  Speaker 3: a great story that I saw. Amanda Hollinsby, I think
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  Speaker 3: is how you say her name. She's an upstate South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina mom. Her daughter is named Braylon. And Braylon got
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  Speaker 3: invited by the Graham campaign to meet the president. They're
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  Speaker 3: going to be in a VIP section tonight, and they're
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  Speaker 3: going to meet the president. Now, as she points out
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  Speaker 3: in her post, it's probably going to be just a
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  Speaker 3: few seconds, but she's bringing information with her to give
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  Speaker 3: to the staff about her daughter. It says DCVax-L and
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  Speaker 3: the barriers American patients face trying to access promising treatments
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  Speaker 3: that are being developed in the United States. This is
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  Speaker 3: an extraordinary opportunity. We're Braylon was given months to live
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  Speaker 3: three years ago. She got an opportunity to take this
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  Speaker 3: medication that is, what is it, the right to try?
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  Speaker 3: They used that in order to use this medication that's
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  Speaker 3: being developed in America. And she says, here we are.
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  Speaker 3: She's now 19, attending college, and her latest MRI shows
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  Speaker 3: no evidence of the disease.
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  Speaker 4: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: So I think she had a brain tumor or something
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  Speaker 3: like that. Um, but yeah, I mean, I, I'm very
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  Speaker 3: happy that the mom has her daughter. I'm very happy
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  Speaker 3: that they get a chance to meet the president. I'm
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  Speaker 3: very happy, hopeful that, uh, you know, as we get
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  Speaker 3: these more and more medical breakthroughs that we will start,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you go back to the name of it, right?
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  Speaker 3: DC vax dash L. Um, Whenever we hear vaccines, we
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  Speaker 3: remember Operation Warp Speed and how quickly they got that out.
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  Speaker 3: She took it three years ago, and we can't get
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  Speaker 3: it to market.
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  Speaker 4: Something's wrong there, but she'll get a chance to maybe
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  Speaker 4: bend the presidency or even if it's for a few
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  Speaker 4: seconds tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the standard vax or
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  Speaker 3: any of those types of medications typically take a 10-year
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  Speaker 3: trial period before they could make sure that they know
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  Speaker 3: all the side effects that are possible. You need control
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  Speaker 3: groups and all that sort of stuff. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: for those of you who took the VACs, you're in
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  Speaker 3: the control group.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you for your service to the study.
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  Speaker 4: We were all in the control group.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That was one of those things where if
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  Speaker 3: you want to go visit your parents or take an airplane,
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  Speaker 3: you got to get yourself into the study. So a
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  Speaker 3: lot of us still with some upset feelings about that.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm excited to get to the Ralph Normans thing.
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  Speaker 3: What other things are we going to be talking about
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  Speaker 3: this morning, Christopher? I saw that in... First off, in
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  Speaker 3: Charleston County, you led South Carolina with the most first-day voters.
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  Speaker 3: That just came out. About 10% of all first-day voting
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  Speaker 3: happened in Charleston County. Is that amazing news for Annie Andrews?
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  Speaker 4: I would think so, yeah. I mean, turnout has been
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  Speaker 4: huge so far, doubling with the numbers we had the
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  Speaker 4: last midterm election. So this has been big. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: if Charleston County is turning out like that, you would
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  Speaker 4: think there are a large number of Annie Andrews supporters
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  Speaker 4: down there.
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  Speaker 3: Is this leading to a potential big win for the Democrats?
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  Speaker 3: Are we looking at maybe a Nancy LaCour upset of
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  Speaker 3: Jenny Honeycutt?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to predict at this point, but I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we saw in the runoff, early numbers don't necessarily tell
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  Speaker 4: the entire story. So we'll have to see. But I
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  Speaker 4: noticed the Cook Political Report, for example, has now changed
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  Speaker 4: strongly strongly republican as far as the the graham andrews
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  Speaker 4: race to now lean republican so they've downgraded it a
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  Speaker 4: bit and that with the kahali numbers show that this
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  Speaker 4: race is going to be close.
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  Speaker 3: The um lacore team apparently yesterday also put out a
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  Speaker 3: new is it being described as a tv ad it's
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  Speaker 3: just a video, I guess. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 3: going to go on TV or if it's just going
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  Speaker 3: to be like on, what do they call it? Digital,
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  Speaker 3: like those pre-rolls. If you're on a YouTube videos or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: those types of things, I'm not sure exactly where it's
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  Speaker 3: going to air, but the ad basically from my understanding
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  Speaker 3: of it is saying that she is coming out and saying,
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  Speaker 3: I will protect women's sports, no trans in women's sports.
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  Speaker 5: Hmm.
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  Speaker 3: So that, would be more of that centrist ground that
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  Speaker 3: most Americans agree in that the Democrat party, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 3: can't get on board with. I, you know, I, I
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  Speaker 3: get it because it's become an issue here in South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina because of the Annie Andrews previous comments.
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  Speaker 4: At the same time, I don't think that's a big
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  Speaker 4: drawing point. You know, nobody's talking about that right now
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  Speaker 4: with the exception of the Andrews Graham campaign. So I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. I'm not sure if you're, liqueur why you
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  Speaker 4: drag that into your campaign. That's not an issue as
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  Speaker 4: to why people are voting or not voting for you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we saw the pushback that Andrews got
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  Speaker 3: when she made the same ad. Was it last week?
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  Speaker 3: That came out. And universally condemned by the Democrat Party.
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  Speaker 3: Funding started getting pulled off of her campaign. They are
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  Speaker 3: very upset. The trans LGBTQ community says that she has
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  Speaker 3: abandoned them and that we need trans athletes in women's sports.
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  Speaker 3: That is a human dignity issue.
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  Speaker 4: So why would you wade into that if you're LaCour
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  Speaker 4: unless you think you've got some ground to gain, I guess,
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  Speaker 4: with the middle part of the state? But otherwise, I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't have waded into it in the first place. It's
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  Speaker 4: kind of like James Tallarico's pastor said. We have to
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  Speaker 4: lie in order to get them to believe that that
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  Speaker 4: is not our issue when it is, in fact, Our number.
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  Speaker 3: One issue for James Tallarico. That is the number one issue.
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  Speaker 3: Trans kids competing in sports, transing the children. That's his
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  Speaker 3: number one issue, according to his pastor. And as soon
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  Speaker 3: as this election is over, as she said, he will
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  Speaker 3: come home. But right now he's saying what he has
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  Speaker 3: to say to win elections. It would seem like a
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  Speaker 3: lot of Democrats are doing the same thing. We'll take
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  Speaker 3: a break. Maybe you've got some thoughts on our early
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  Speaker 3: chats here this morning. If you're up early, boy, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for starting your day with us. We could
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  Speaker 3: probably get you on the air right now if you
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  Speaker 3: want to use the talkback feature. That's the big, juicy
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  Speaker 3: red microphone button on the iHeartRadio app. We'll be back
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  Speaker 3: in just a moment.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 3: And if you missed it, we announced that Ralph Norman
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  Speaker 3: called in very early this morning, before the show started,
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  Speaker 3: so I have it up as a full podcast. But first,
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  Speaker 3: a little clip from the interview with Ralph Norman. about
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  Speaker 3: this idea of a write-in Ralph campaign. He does not
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  Speaker 3: support it. But what if, what if it was to
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  Speaker 3: peel off enough would-be Darlene Graham supporters and lead to
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  Speaker 3: the election of Democrat Annie Andrews?
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that's on the GOP. And, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: fact is people are frustrated. Um, Kelly, they just are
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  Speaker 6: because they sent something that's just wrong. Uh, Darlene knows it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I was going to cut off
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  Speaker 6: the money supply, the no bid contracts, the, you know,
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  Speaker 6: voting with Democrats. I was going to cut that off
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  Speaker 6: and I was going to question everything as I'm supposed
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  Speaker 6: to do. That's my record of eight years in Congress.
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  Speaker 3: But, um, My.
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  Speaker 6: Response is let people decide on their own in both
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  Speaker 6: their conscience. I'm also very honest with them. What's the
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  Speaker 6: likelihood of those who've asked me of being successful in
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  Speaker 6: a right hand? And you have to say it's not
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  Speaker 6: very– the odds are not very high. But I would
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  Speaker 6: be guilty of what Donald Trump's doing is forcing, you know,
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  Speaker 6: using my whatever influence I've got to say vote this
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  Speaker 6: way or that way.
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  Speaker 3: Christopher, thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he says he's not in favor of it. And
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  Speaker 4: then he says he understands the movement. It's almost as
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  Speaker 4: if he's giving credence to those who want to write
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  Speaker 4: his name in, although he points out the odds are
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  Speaker 4: slim that it would make any difference other than throwing
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  Speaker 4: the race away. Andrew's way, but he also... And this
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  Speaker 4: is the first time I've heard him mention the fact
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  Speaker 4: that his challenge of no-bid contracts is what led to
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  Speaker 4: his possibly being taken out by his fellow Republicans.
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  Speaker 3: There is a lot of things that he is very
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  Speaker 3: upset about, and that's at the beginning of the interview.
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  Speaker 3: He goes through a long list of grievances about who
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  Speaker 3: did what to him and when, and he also... points
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  Speaker 3: out near the end of the interview that you're not
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  Speaker 3: going to see a write-in Ralph campaign at all in
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  Speaker 3: the governor's race. Because as he pointed out, Alan Wilson
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  Speaker 3: beat me fairly squarely. There was no shenanigans in that race.
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  Speaker 3: He feels an apparent, you know, and again, the write-in
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  Speaker 3: Ralph crew feels as if there were shenanigans.
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  Speaker 4: Shenanigans beyond the president himself injecting himself into the race?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Does he go into detail about what?
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, ooh, okay.
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Names are named.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Kelly, can I step away from the broadcast
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  Speaker 4: for a few minutes and listen to your podcast?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll play more clips of that coming up. We're
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  Speaker 3: trying to make this show as juicy as possible. Look,
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  Speaker 3: Christopher and I are in the ratings business, so we've
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  Speaker 3: got to give you little teases to keep you through
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  Speaker 3: commercial breaks and then try to get you to come
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  Speaker 3: back and listen to more. And so that's what we're
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  Speaker 3: doing here today. Now, if you want to participate, we'd
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  Speaker 3: love it when you talk back. Are you upset that
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  Speaker 3: Ralph is... not coming out and full-throated endorsing darling Graham.
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  Speaker 3: Are you upset that he said, but his position also being,
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  Speaker 3: then I would be guilty of doing what the president did.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what a lot of Republicans were upset about
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  Speaker 3: was that the president interjected and used his influence to
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  Speaker 3: swing the race one way or another. But the difference
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  Speaker 3: also is that that's a primary. So you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: two Republicans or numerous Republicans running and as opposed to
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  Speaker 3: a Republican versus a Democrat. Team GOP is supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be Team GOP. So, thoughts on that. Use the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 3: And we've got a lot to get to this morning.
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  Speaker 3: We really do. And we certainly appreciate you starting your
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  Speaker 3: day with South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 3: With Kelly Nash and Christopher Thompson, good morning. The early
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  Speaker 3: voting doubled the previous morning. first day voting. My gosh,
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  Speaker 3: you people couldn't wait to get out and vote, apparently. Well,
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  Speaker 3: maybe not everybody. I'm looking at these numbers and I'm saying, uh-oh,
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  Speaker 3: it looks as if the fears are correct. The Democrats
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  Speaker 3: are very energized. The number one county was Charleston County,
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  Speaker 3: had 9,398 voters. That's 10% of the total vote came
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  Speaker 3: out of Charleston County, which tends to lean a little
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  Speaker 3: bit to the left. Also, if you were to look
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  Speaker 3: at the number two county, that's Greenville. But the difference
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  Speaker 3: is Greenville has almost 600,000 residents as opposed to Charleston
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  Speaker 3: County at 439,000 residents. So significantly fewer people living in
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  Speaker 3: Charleston County than Greenville County. And yet Charleston had more
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  Speaker 3: people out than Richland County, which is about the same
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  Speaker 3: size as Charleston County and also leans left. came in third.
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  Speaker 3: If you're looking in the Midlands, Lexington had about half
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  Speaker 3: the voters that Richland did. In other words, if you're
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  Speaker 3: interpreting first-day voting as enthusiasm, the left has the enthusiasm
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  Speaker 3: in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: But we saw the left have that enthusiasm after the
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  Speaker 4: failed attempt at redistricting, and they went to the polls saying,
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  Speaker 4: oh yeah, we're going to ride this wave of momentum,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm I'm not sure that's going to carry over
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  Speaker 4: to election day. Republicans as a whole haven't embraced early
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  Speaker 4: voting like Democrats have. I think there are still traditional
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  Speaker 4: Republicans out there who say, yeah, I vote on election day.
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  Speaker 4: That's when I vote. So I would take these numbers
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  Speaker 4: with a grain of salt, although it is. It is
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  Speaker 4: discouraging that that many, as you point out, left leaning
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  Speaker 4: strongholds are so far going, you know, big numbers.
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  Speaker 3: They really think they have a shot. I think they
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  Speaker 3: believe they have a shot at the House seat. They
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  Speaker 3: have a shot at the Senate. And that has got
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  Speaker 3: them all fired up. So let that serve as a
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  Speaker 3: warning to you if you're a Republican and you're thinking about, well,
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  Speaker 3: maybe this is the year I don't need to get
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  Speaker 3: up and get after it. Does my vote even matter? Well,
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  Speaker 3: they always say that you actually made your decision in
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  Speaker 3: the primary. And after that, it's just an afterthought in
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina. Not so much this year. We'll take a
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  Speaker 3: break for the news. Be back with more in just
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  Speaker 3: a moment.
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  Speaker 2: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 3: And the South Carolina State Fair has been, I think,
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  Speaker 3: doing fantastic. I've loved going with my son. Went to
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  Speaker 3: the boiled peanut eating competition, obviously, last week. Weather has
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  Speaker 3: been fantastic for the most part, a little bit chillier
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  Speaker 3: than I would like, but it's been a great time,
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  Speaker 3: and people are flocking from all across the Palmetto State
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  Speaker 3: to Columbia and the state fairgrounds and having a big time,
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  Speaker 3: but that is not the story that is getting a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people's attention. If you were to go to
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  Speaker 3: the Post and Courier, they have a headline, South Carolina
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  Speaker 3: State Fair Visitors Are Frustrated. with the adult chaperone policy
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  Speaker 3: allege discrimination. And this is a salacious headline, Christopher. They're
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  Speaker 3: saying that if you show up with a biracial family,
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  Speaker 3: that's just automatically you are rejected at the gate. Nobody's
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  Speaker 3: getting in. Look, if the kids don't look like you,
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  Speaker 3: you're not their parent, you're not getting in. Beat it,
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  Speaker 3: kick rocks.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that goes back to security policies that were put
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  Speaker 4: in place couple of years ago because there was so
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  Speaker 4: much mischief going on and it led to actual violence
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  Speaker 4: at the state fair, which no one wants. So they
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  Speaker 4: eventually came up with rules. You had to be of
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  Speaker 4: a certain age to be at the fair at dark.
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  Speaker 4: And then they refined those rules a couple of years
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  Speaker 4: ago saying, all right, it's going to have to be
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  Speaker 4: with a parent. You're going to have to have parental
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  Speaker 4: supervision to be here at certain times of the day.
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  Speaker 4: You can't just as a As an adult, you can't
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  Speaker 4: just drop the kids off at the gate and say,
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  Speaker 4: I'll pick you up in six hours and leave the
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  Speaker 4: kids to their own devices. So it's got to be
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  Speaker 4: an actual parent, not just a parent supervising a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of kids. It's got to be, you've got to have
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  Speaker 4: your parent being your kid, bringing them in.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what about if I adopted them? Okay.
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  Speaker 4: There, it seems like there are, if you ask for
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  Speaker 4: a supervisor, which I guess some people are not doing,
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  Speaker 4: some people are just, you know, raising cane. The minute
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  Speaker 4: they get up there and say, well, now, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 4: you're not the, are you the parent of this child
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  Speaker 4: or not? If you ask for a supervisor, apparently there
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  Speaker 4: are provisions in place where you can explain, okay, I
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  Speaker 4: am the parent of this kid, may not look like me,
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  Speaker 4: but here I am.
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  Speaker 3: There is roughly 400,000 people who go to the state
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  Speaker 3: fair annually. We're halfway through it right now, more than
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  Speaker 3: halfway through it. It wraps up Sunday.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So probably 250,000 people have been, and in grand total,
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  Speaker 3: they've received three complaints. Three complaints.
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  Speaker 4: So is this a big issue or just a big
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: issue for the newspaper?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Exactly. But it's also a big issue for Tamika Isaac-Devine.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: State Senator Tamika Isaac-Devine has got a lot of hay
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: has been made. She's posted on her Facebook, I want
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: to know about it. I want to know about it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I'm going to fight with the fairgrounds for your benefit.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: So far, over 300 comments on that post, basically encouraging her,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: nobody really pointing out to any specific issues. And as
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: you pointed out, Christopher, if you are going to the
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: state fair, you do, if you have a minor with you,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: You're going to need to, you know, that is my child. Now,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: most of us are going to not get a second look.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: If I was, like, so for those of you who
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: don't know, I'm married to a black woman. We don't
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: have any children together, but we do have some nephews
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: and nieces. My niece is biracial. If my niece was
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: to come with us, I highly doubt that there would
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: be a lot of scrutiny because we look like responsible adults.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: If it's me and her or just me and my
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: niece walking in together, somebody might say, you in charge
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: of her? Yeah, she's my kid. She's coming with me.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: They're going to just let us through. It's the parents
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: that are 26 with a 18-year-old. That's the ones that
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: are getting this. scrutiny. Now, there is one that's got
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of, I guess, discussion. We don't know. All
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: we know is what she said was that she drove
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: up from, I think, Charleston. And she was turned away
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: even though, because two of the kids didn't look like
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: her because they're her adopted kids. And she said, we
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: had to go home. Maybe, maybe not.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: That's her story. But Mike LaShuma, the fair safety director
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: says it's totally being mischaracterized. Like you said, we have
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: a team that this is their job is to confirm
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: that if there's a child that they're with a parent, um, and, um,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: We have supervisors on duty at every gate who can
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: make exceptions to the policy based on the situations of
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: an individual, family, or group. So even if it's not
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: the parent, it's just a responsible adult you're going to
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: get in. But he says we're not perfect. If there's
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: a complaint, let us know about it. And like we said,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: of the 250,000 or so who've shown up, we've had
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: three complaints.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: And no major violence reported at the fair either. It's
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: a shame we have to have this policy in place
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: in the first place. I mean, it used to be
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: a rite of passage if you were, you know, a teenager.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: You know, sometimes mom and dad would drop you off
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: and say, okay, have fun. You know, here's a little
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: bit of money. Be careful and come back and report
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: to the car at this time.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: We raised kids differently then.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't do that anymore.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the kids that are being raised today, not everybody,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: but a lot of the parents don't raise their children
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: that way. And so who are we going to hold
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: accountable when your kid's sitting on the, what is that
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: thing that goes over the entire fair and they're just
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: spitting on people?
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: That was a big thing when I got here in 05,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: that the kids would just be laying loogies out on everybody.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: And so you were told, don't go near it because
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: they're aiming for you. And well, what are they going
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: to do about it? Well, there's nothing we can do.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Their parents aren't here. There's so many of them. It's
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: hard to find out which one did it. We're going
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: to have to throw them all out. And eventually that's
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: what they did. We're throwing everybody under the age of
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: 18 out. Nobody's allowed unless you come in with some
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: sort of parent or a guardian. And like you said,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: the violence fell off a cliff. We have now restored
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: law and order to the South Carolina State Fair, and
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: it's about time. I celebrate it. Do you have thoughts
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: on the state fair? Have you gone? Did you get
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: a turkey leg? What do you enjoy about the state fair?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Let us know on the Talk Back feature. This is
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson. Back in a moment.
• 22:24
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• 22:29
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• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson, and I am a resident of
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Richland County, which continues to just shoot itself in the foot.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And they did it again last night at the Richland
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: County Council meeting. So, again, tongues are wagging at the
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Westinghouse Electric Company and this idea that the Westinghouse Nuclear
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Fuel Manufacturing Facility in Hopkins, what are we going to do?
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: How are we going to get it? How are we
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: going to make sure that we get it? Well... We
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: got it because Richland County Council has decided to lower
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: the taxable assessment ratio for that facility from 10.5% down
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: to 4%. And then they're going to freeze the property
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: tax rate for 40 years. And they're also going to
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: give them another extra 10% off for the first four
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: years that they're there. So when you think about giving
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: tax breaks, who is giving the tax break? Is it
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the county council? In essence, sort of, yeah, but it's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: actually the people who live in Richland County because the
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: schools are funded 100% by the taxes that are collected
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: by business owners. And so when you just dramatically cut that,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and yet understanding that those businesses are expanding and bringing
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: in new students, who's paying for these people? There's going
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: to have to be a millage rate or something like
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: that to try to figure out a way to get
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the people who live in Richland County to pick up
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: the slack that Westinghouse is not going to pay for it. Christopher,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: any thoughts?
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, we see this all the time. It's not
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: just about the tax breaks, too. It's about picking winners
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: and losers. Not that there was anybody in competition to
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: do what Westinghouse is doing necessarily, but What happens when
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: the next business comes in? Do you give them the
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: same tax break?
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm wondering, who are we in competition with for
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the Westinghouse Nuclear Fuel Manufacturing Facility?
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Is this like a five-star recruit that everybody's trying to get?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You tell me. If you have thoughts
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: on that, use the talkback feature. We'll take a break.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Morning News.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is Stephen from Reesville.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: On the Westinghouse thing, you also have to look at
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: what the town and city and state is getting as
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: far as impact fees on what they're going to have
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: to do for infrastructure when they build the facility.
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  Speaker 3: Good point, Stephen. Thank you for listening. And where did
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: he say he was from again, Christopher?
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Reesville, I think is what he said.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Reesville. Where is that? Is that in the Midlands? I
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: don't even know. Is it Leesville or Reesville?
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I think he said Reevesville.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with Reevesville. I have to take a
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: trip out there and visit it and say, maybe I'll
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: meet Stephen when I'm out there and say, thank you
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: for listening, Stephen, in Reevesville. But yes, we were just
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: talking about how Westinghouse got a deal last night with
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Richland County for a facility in Hopkins, which is going
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to lower dramatically more than half of their... tax liability
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: goes from 10.5% down to 4%, and then they get
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: an extra 10% off their taxes the first four years
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: that they're there, and how that severely impacts the school
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: districts because that's where they get their funding from. We
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: had a bill passed here in South Carolina a number
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: of years ago where your income tax, excuse me, your
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: property tax does not pay into the school districts. So
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: it's really about the businesses. And of course, there's some
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: other ways for funding as well. But it's very frustrating
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: to see us continue to cut deals in order to
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: try to lure companies here, when in reality, we're the
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: five-star recruit. South Carolina is the five-star recruit. You should
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: be begging us to get in here, not the other
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: way around. We devalue what we're offering as a state
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: in order to lure companies here.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: And Westinghouse is already here. They're just expanding. So I'm
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: not you know, it probably would have cost them a
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: lot more to go someplace else and build a facility
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: from scratch than expanding what they have currently in Hopkins.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Yet another brilliant point made by Christopher Thompson. All right,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: we'll take a break. When we come back, more of
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the Ralph Norman interview from this morning. Who's he upset with?
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Who's he supporting? All that and more. I can't wait.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Thanks for starting your day with South Carolina's Morning News.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Good morning.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Kelly Nash here, Christopher Thompson there. And I should mention,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Christopher does a great job behind the scenes. I think
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I mentioned it when he wasn't here, how... Much I
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: missed him being here. But one of the other things
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: that Christopher does that I'm not able to do, or
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: maybe I could have.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: You could do it. I just haven't tasked you with
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: it yet.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is produce the podcast. And so, you know, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: was looking at that yesterday, and Christopher is absolutely right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: There's hundreds and thousands of people who are downloading our podcast,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: the SC Morning News podcast.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: All over the world.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: It's amazing to me how many people in like Japan
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: and places are listening to us. So thank you.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: You're huge in Singapore.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I am like the, what was that guy's name? Michael. Oh,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. The guy who is the Knight Rider.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: David Hasselhoff.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I'm the Hasselhoff of where again in Singapore? Man, they
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: can't get enough of me in Singapore. But we also,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: for those of you interested, if you're looking for other
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: ways of listening, we do live stream the show on Xbox. Facebook,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and YouTube. So, at Kelly Nash Radio, you can live
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: stream the show there. All right. This morning, Ralph Norman
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: called in. Probably went about 15 minutes with him. I
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: mentioned to him that he is supporting, by the way,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Darlene Graham. Now, what does that support look like? I
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: was rebuffed when I brought up the idea of appearing
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: with Ms. Graham. That did not.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: That was not something that he was up for. Period
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: or just tonight with Donald Trump? No, period, full stop. Okay.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Never going to do it. Okay. He then, I brought
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: up the point that, look, if Annie Andrews wins, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: if that's the one vote that sends the Senate to
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the Democrats, that's a bad prescription for America.
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: It is.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: It's a bad prescription that you've got Republicans on. who
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: are only running on the Republican ticket just to get elected.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: This is more than about an election. I mean, I
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: don't want what happened to me to happen to other
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: candidates in South Carolina. I love this state. That's why
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: I've given a lot of time and effort into trying
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: to make it better and trying to represent the people
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: of South Carolina. We're a conservative state, but we, the establishment,
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: what they did with teaming up with Democrats to— we shouldn't
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: even be in this situation. We're electing somebody for six years,
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: and we should not even have to face this. But
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: that's where we are. That question should have been asked,
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: quite frankly, by the Republican Party in South Carolina of
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: who is the most conservative, best candidate to run. And
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: take my name out of the picture. What candidate is
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: that a year ago? But the way they blitzed me
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: and just misrepresented it, I see the frustration. And I'll
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: also say this, Kelly, you don't see a right end
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: with Governor. Alan Wilson beat me fair and square, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: he was truthful on what he said. You know, the
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: issues disagree with me on issues or votes all day long,
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: not on the smear campaign that has hit a new
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: low with Darling Graham and with President Trump, with the
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: whole establishment, which I just reject. And again, it's more
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: than about Ralph Norman. It's about the future of the
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: state and how candidates, if you flood it with money,
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: you can put anybody in. And that's what's happened with
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Dolly Graham, in my opinion.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Not a happy camper.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Establishment is just shy of Rhino as a word. You
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: do not want to hear if you're a Republican being
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: called establishment. I mean, you might as well say it,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: even if it's not in Washington, DC, you're talking about
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: the swamp.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: That is the swamp. That is the swamp. And that's
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: what Ralph is saying happened at the, uh, campaign was
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: flooded with swamp money and mischaracterizations of his voting records,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: mischaracterizations of his personal records. I mean, he feels as if,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: and he's again, he's saying the Republicans did this. This is,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: he's not saying the Democrats did it. He's saying that
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Republicans lied about him because they wanted to protect their
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: interests in DC. And he's very upset. Now he, again,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I said, I thought you were going to support the nominee.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: He said, I will be voting for her. I will.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: That's my support. And that's where it ends. What do
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you think of that, South Carolinians? Are you happy to
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: hear Ralph is supporting Darlene Graham with his vote? Are
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: you concerned that there's a right in Ralph campaign that
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: he says he mentioned it earlier? We talked about that.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: He's not associated with it. He doesn't expect it will
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: amount to much. but he's not going to deter it
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: because he says, I don't want to be guilty of
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: what I'm accusing the president of, which is using his
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: influence to try to tell people how to vote.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I would think if you're a write-in guy or gal,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: you're probably more encouraged. You're probably more upset at the
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: system and probably even more ready to write in Ralph's
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: name after hearing what Ralph Norman had to say.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: To me, there's a world of difference between between an
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: endorsement and trying to get people to vote for your
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: candidate in the primary, as opposed to trying to get
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: them to vote in the general election. Team Republic, in
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: my estimation, this is where Ralph and I are separate.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I love Ralph Norman. I think he's a great American.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I think he's wrong on this issue. I think that
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: he should be full-throated endorsement of Darlene Graham because the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: option should concern all freedom-loving people. And by the way,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: speaking of that, we're going to talk with Mr. James
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Carville about how James Carville has come over to Team Nash.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: James Carville and I are seeing eye-to-eye on an issue.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: We're going to get into that next. And of course,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: your talkbacks as well, if you'd like to talk about
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: This issue with Ralph Norman or anything else that's going
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: on in South Carolina or anything in the world of
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: news or politics, please let us know on the iHeartRadio app.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 34:03
  Speaker 12: Problem with Darlene Graham is that she's just another rubber
• 34:08
  Speaker 12: stamp for the Trump agenda. You know, this woman has
• 34:13
  Speaker 12: never worked in politics. And because she's Lindsey's sister, she
• 34:20
  Speaker 12: is somehow a good candidate.
• 34:23
  Speaker 13: If Ralph cares like he says he cares, he would
• 34:26
  Speaker 13: back Graham 100%. I think he's just being a sore
• 34:30
  Speaker 13: loser here. It's just politics, buddy. Put your big boy
• 34:36
  Speaker 13: pants back on and get back in the game.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Hey guys, Carl from Charleston.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: How long has Ralph Norman been in politics?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: And what does he think that the Democrats.
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: Were going to do to him?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: All valid talkbacks. The ones that are saying Ralph should
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: understand that this is the way politics has always been played.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: And the other one who says, you know, Darlene is
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: not a qualified candidate. I completely understand where you're coming from.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: She has no political experience, but she would point out
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I've been a public servant for many years. And then
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: there'd be other people who would say, You know, Trump
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: had no political experience as well.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: And I.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Mean, it's this is just one of those very passionate
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: issues in South Carolina politics right now, Christopher. I don't
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: think we're going to get it resolved. Whoever wins this
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: upcoming midterm, whether it is Darlene or Annie, I think
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: we're going to just be dealing with this for years
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: to come.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Agreed. And the talkbacks continue to flow in if you
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: want more.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Uh, we, you know what, we'll have to take a
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: break here and we will come back with more. If
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: you look at, we just played part of the interview
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: with Ralph Norman that we had early this morning. Thank
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: you to the Congressman for waking up early to do
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: that with me. Uh, so we could get it up
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: as a podcast. Now, if you want to hear the
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: entire like 12, 15 minutes, whatever it is, That is
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: on the National Briefing Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: were talking earlier about the SC Morning News podcast, also
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio app. That way you can hear the
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: entire show when it's done. It's about 90 minutes, if
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I remember right, the entire show. The three hours that
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: we do here turns into about 90 minutes after you
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: take out the weathers and traffics and all those types
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: of things. But the National Briefing Podcast is about a
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: 10 to 15-minute daily podcast that I usually get up
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: before 6 a.m. trying to talk about some sort of
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: issue of the day. And I will talk eventually about
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the other issue that I was talking about, how me
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: and James Carville see eye to eye. And I'm going
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: to argue against, I'm going to take on Matthew McConaughey
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: at some point in this show.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right. All right.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: We got a lot going on today. But again, more
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: of your talkbacks. Christopher says they're lining up now. Please
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: get yours in as well on that iHeartRadio app.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm looking at Christopher. He's looking at me. All right,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: I thought we were going to go to a talkback there,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: but that's okay. We don't need to get to the
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: talkbacks just yet, unless you have them lined up.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I thought we were doing Jim Carville here. Sorry, my bad.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: That's okay.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: That's on me. I fumbled.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: It's all good. You want me to go to James Carville?
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I'm ready now.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Because I was going to say, Carville's going to make
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: the same point I think a lot of these people
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: are going to make. I'm ready.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: I've got a couple of talkbacks here again on Darlene
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Graham and Ralph Norman.
• 37:22
  Speaker 14: I don't care about Darlene Graham's experience. What experience does
• 37:27
  Speaker 14: Danny Andrews have? That's a really poor excuse to not
• 37:30
  Speaker 14: vote for Darlene Graham. I'm voting for her to not
• 37:34
  Speaker 14: vote for the Democrats because the socialists will get in
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: leadership roles.
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  Speaker 8: Can't have that.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Mark in Charleston, South Carolina.
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: After listening to Ralph's interview this morning, I can tell
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: you I did vote for him in the primary. but
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: I am so disappointed in his sour grapes attitude and
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: his lack of support for the party. I regret that
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: vote for him now, and he would never get a
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: vote from me again.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's painful. Mark down in Charleston. Thank you. I'm
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: not sure who the young lady was, but I think
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: she's a WSC listener as well. And certainly appreciate you
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: listening on the I heart radio app and letting your
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: voice be heard. I think that, a lot of us
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: are seeing this situation the same way, although not all
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: of us, obviously the right in Ralph campaign has some momentum.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: They've got their own website. They've got, you know, the
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: hashtag is flowing on social media. Anytime we post anything
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: about Darlene Graham or Annie Andrews, or even when I
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: posted my interview with Casey Whitener, the libertarian, uh, some
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: social media pages were filled up with right in Ralph. Um,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I was hopeful that Ralph would— I knew he wasn't supporting
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the Right in Ralph campaign. I was hopeful he would say, listen,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: we've got to make sure— even if you hate Darlene, you've
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: got to make sure that the Democrats don't get power.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: This is not an election where you can— you don't have
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: the luxury of a protest vote. You know, oftentimes we hear, well,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: the Republican Party would learn something if we let a
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Democrat win today. But it's not letting a Democrat win.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: In this instance, you're letting the party win. And I
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: think it was the young lady who said that the socialists.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: take over. They are taking over the party. They're in
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: the middle of that takeover as we speak. So the
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: lesson that we learn, we would be paying for that
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: lesson the rest of our lives, I believe.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Well, and this is bigger than a congressional race in that,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: you know, you've got two years to teach your lesson
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: and then Turn the seat back over. This is a
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: six-year term that you would be potentially giving a Democrat.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: That's a long lesson. It's a long lesson. Probably a
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: painful one. We'll see what people have to say about that.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: If you have more talkbacks, please use the iHeartRadio app
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and get in touch with us. And perhaps we'll get
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: to Matthew McConaughey and James Carville. and the lessons that
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: they want to teach us, I'm going to argue against McConaughey,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to agree with James Carville. This is
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: one of the rarest days ever that I'm agreeing with
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: James Carville. Yes, you'll hear what he has to say
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: coming up on South Carolina's Morning News.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Kelly Nash here, Christopher Thompson there, and the mayor of
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Mount Pleasant, Will Haney, in a new TV ad. For
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Nancy LaCour, here's a clip of that.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: And us.
• 40:40
  Speaker 15: She'll be a watchdog for our tax dollars and stand
• 40:43
  Speaker 15: up to both parties to lower costs, secure our border,
• 40:47
  Speaker 15: and protect girls' sports. Nancy knows what makes the Lowcountry special.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I'm Nancy LaCour. I'm proud to have Mayor Haney's support,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: and I approve this message. There you go. Nancy is
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: in the center. And again, earlier, Christopher and I were
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: talking about that ad before we'd seen it. And it
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: was the thing that's getting the attention is protect women's sports,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: because that is I'm already seeing some LGBTQ people push
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: back on Nancy about that. We heard about that with
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Annie Andrews. But the trans issue is something that a
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: lot of people are concerned about. But if you're going
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: to win this election, you're going to have to run
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: as a centrist. And maybe you are a centrist. Maybe,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: in fact, you are a Democrat centrist. But with that
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: in mind, let me bring over here to this pot,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: never friend of the show, James Carville and his thoughts
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: on the midterms.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: I would rather the Republicans keep the House by five
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: than the Democrats win by five.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Because if that happens, they're hostage to the DSA.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Hakeem cannot move. There's no place for him to go.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: It's a nightmare, 225.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: James Carville says vote Republican.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: There's your headline right there.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: James Carville says vote Republican. Bad news, Nancy LaCour. James
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Carville says if you win, it doesn't matter who you are.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that Hakeem Jeffries wants to be a moderate.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that the majority of Americans hate the
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Democrat socialists. The only thing that matters is the Democrat
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Party has been infiltrated with a cancer. It is a cancer.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: It's an anti-American virus that is hell-bent on killing the
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: American dream and just destroying the Constitution. And you have
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: that in the Democrat Party now. And the only way
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: To kill it is like you kill any other cancer.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: You've got to starve it. You've got to get a big,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: fat dose of chemotherapy. For any of you who've ever
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: been through chemotherapy, I've had many family members go through it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: It is a brutal experience for them because you're taking
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: them as close to death as possible in order to
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: stop the cancer from spreading. The Democrat Party now has
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: to go through a process where one of two things
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: is going to happen. They are either going to bring
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: themselves to the verge of death in order to get
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: rid of the socialists, or the socialism will rise just
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: like James Carville says it will. If we get power,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: the socialists will be emboldened. They will hold the party hostage.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: And they will continue to overthrow it. And it's not
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: a new thing. Bernie Sanders, you should have stopped Bernie
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Sanders more than a decade ago. He ran as a
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: socialist on the Democrat ticket. That was a horrific idea.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: And you allowed it. I think he originally ran in
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: like 08. You should have never allowed him to run
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: as a Democrat. If you're not a Democrat, you're not
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: allowed to run as a Democrat. If you don't swear
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: allegiance to the Republican Party, you can run as an independent.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: but you cannot run as a Republican. You got to
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: make sure that you keep these people out. We see
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: fringes getting in, trying to get into the Republican party
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: and they are rebuffed. I'm thinking of a, what's that
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: guy's name? Fuentes, Nick Fuentes, trying to get into the
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Republican party and he's been thoroughly rebuffed. You've got a
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: fringe podcasters and people, and then people who go off the,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: off the plant. You know what, what happened to Tucker Carlson?
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: He went crazy. Tucker Carlson went nuts, and he has been,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: for the most part, I know J.D. Vance is still
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: friends with him, but J.D. Vance would tell you Tucker
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Carlson is pretty much 100% wrong 100% of the time
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: right now. Something's happened in Tucker Carlson's brain. He's a
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: nut job. And he does not represent the Republican Party anymore.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: He's a pro-Hamas, pro-Russia, pro-anything that's anti-American. That's not a Republican.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Republicans love Americans. By the way, so do the Democrats.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: The Democrats love America. They want a more robust, we'll say,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: welfare state. They want more social programs. We can battle
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: between those two all day long. That's a fair argument.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: The idea of destroying the Constitution, opening up the prisons,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: all of this stuff that they're introducing, that is what
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: you're seeing in Europe. And again, James Carville, guy's got
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: to be, what, 75 years old? Probably been a Democrat
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: since the day he could speak. That guy says vote Republican.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: We saw shades of this in 2020 when. Biden and
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Harris got elected immediately. Leadership, Democrat leadership started being attacked.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: AOC was in Pelosi's ear constantly. Chuck Schumer was being
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: driven down. The administration was being asked, all right, wait
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: a minute. We got you elected. Where are all the
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: green new ideas that we got you elected on? Where,
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: how come they're not getting done faster? And you'll see
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: the same thing. You may have Democrat leadership, moderate Democrat
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: leadership assume leadership. you know, bigger positions, but they will be,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: even if the DSA doesn't control the majority, they will
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: drag the Democrats into their position.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: And that's the cancer. That's the cancer. It may look okay.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: You might know people who have cancer and they look fine.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: They don't look like they're suffering, but they are. They're
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: battling for their lives. The Democrat party is battling for
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: its life right now. We should all pray for the Democrats.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: You should, you know, pray that the Democrats can rebuff
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: this socialism. And they can't do it if you elect
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: people like Nancy LaCour, who is running as a moderate
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: and may be a moderate, or Annie Andrews, who may
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: in fact be a moderate, although I have my doubts.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: That doesn't matter. It just feeds the cancer, which is
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: the Democrat socialists. And I'm going to stop calling them
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: the Democrat socialists. They are the socialists. They're the Marxists.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: They're the communists. These are the people that hate America,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: and you see it playing out across Europe already. They
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: want to destroy everything in order to get us all
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: back to a base level. They hate Western culture. They
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: hate civilization in general, and they don't want it. They
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: reject it. That's why you see them targeting things of
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: art and statues, these types of things, because that's a
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: remembrance of a great time And like France's history or
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Italy's history or the United States history or whatever, they
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: want all that crap erased. We're going to bring it
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: back to the ground level and we'll rebuild it in
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: the image of Stalin. Golly. All right. Do you agree
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: with that opinion? That's a nuanced opinion there, isn't it?
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: What do you think of that idea? Vote Republican, even
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: if you're a Democrat, in order to save the Democrat Party.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: We've got that up for— and then we're going to go
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: kind of in the same idea Matthew McConaughey's chiming into politics.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about his position. and get more of your
• 47:56
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• 47:59
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• 48:03
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• 48:14
  Speaker 15: So you're telling me that James Carville is more of
• 48:18
  Speaker 15: a Republican than... These Ralph Norman supporters that are all
• 48:22
  Speaker 15: up in their emotions like Democrats.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Good morning, gentlemen.
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: This is Chris from Lexington. Whatever happened to it being
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: the best person for the job in politics? Not saying
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: that Annie Andrews is the best person, but it never
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: was about just a complete party and voting down party lines.
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: If there's one that's better for the job and it
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: just happens to be on the other side, then so
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: be it.
• 48:48
  Speaker 12: I'm just curious where you guys get your talking points
• 48:52
  Speaker 12: from because I'm absolutely shocked with your take on Tucker.
• 48:58
  Speaker 12: That's just like insanity. If you listen to more than
• 49:02
  Speaker 12: one episode or listen to more than what all these
• 49:06
  Speaker 12: idiots online are blabbing about, you would know that that
• 49:10
  Speaker 12: is the furthest thing from Tucker's position.
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: Hey, this is Elder from Charleston. I'm going to have
• 49:16
  Speaker 10: to disagree with you on that. Tucker Carlson and Candace...
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: Owens are both 100% correct in trying to vilify them
• 49:24
  Speaker 10: as just propaganda from the enemy.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, so Candace Owens, that's a new one to us.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Candace Owens is the one who says that Charlie Kirk
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: was assassinated by Israel, and they did it with a
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: microphone gun. that it was his microphone that shot him
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: through the neck. That is one of the most disgusting
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: allegations of all time. I'm not going to get into
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: the whole thing about calling the president of France's wife
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: a man. She'll be, I guess, appearing in court on
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: that one coming up. But back to Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson, quote,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely more sympathetic to Putin than to the Ukrainian president,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: and I think that the United States should end all
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: financial and military support for the Ukraines. And I don't
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: consider myself to be pro-Russian, just pro-American. And Americans have
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: been misled for decades about the actual goals of Russia.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: That is a nut job.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Pretty clear.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a nut job. Tucker Carlson is off that.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: By the way, here's another one. Many times I've said
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: on television the problem is radical Islam. The problem is
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Muslims who get radicalized, that they want to kill us,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: that they're all crazy, that they're all on this lunatic
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: suicide cult created by Muhammad in the 7th century, and
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: I actually believed it. But now I know that that
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: is not, in fact, the case. It's not radical Muslims.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: It's not radical Islam, according to Tucker Carlson. You're not
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: seeing any radical Islamic activity in the world today. They're
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: that's not the terrorist groups. These are not the terrorists
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: you're looking for. Look, Tucker Carlson bought a home in Qatar.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Did he buy it? Was it given to him? It
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: kind of feels like it was given to him. Kind
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: of feels like he's on the Qatari payroll these days.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: And I don't think that that's insane to feel that way,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: to look at Tucker Carlson's sudden shift away from America,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: moving to Qatar and then taking these pro Russia, pro
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Muslim positions and saying that he feels more welcome inside
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: a Muslim mosque than he does in most churches. That's
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: a stupid, insane thing to say as well. But anyway,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: if you love Tucker Carlson, love Tucker Carlson. I'm like
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Ralph Norman. I'm not telling you who to vote for.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: If you like Tucker and you like your Candace Owens,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: go ahead. They are providing a source of entertainment, and
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: that's all it is. It's entertainment. They're not providing any
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: actual news. They're commenting on the news kind of like
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: what we do here we comment on the news um
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: but getting back to what was the first one about
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: christopher although we're upset that the ralph norman supporters yeah not.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Carvel's more of a republican than ralph norman supporters.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Look i'm a ralph norman supporter i voted for ralph
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: um and unlike that first talk back that we had
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: this morning i do not regret my vote for ralph
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: i thought he was a great candidate however that being
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: said I understand that politics is a team sport and
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I'm team GOP more so than ever because I'm anti-socialist.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I'm anti-communist. And that is where the Democrat Party is
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: going to. All right, we are running late and definitely
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: need to take a break. Back with more in just
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: a moment.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 52:34
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• 52:35
  Speaker 7: The problem isn't how great your show is and what
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: you're telling the people. The problem is The ones that
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: need to hear it aren't listening to you. They're listening
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: to the person that's offering them everything for free. When
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: they realize that the free ain't free, then it's too late.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: All right. Thank you for using the talkback feature. I
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: wish I knew who she was. You're right. Look, news
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: talk radio can probably between the podcasts that, you know,
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: are out there, whether you're talking about Tucker Carlson or
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro, or, you know, the biggest names in the
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: podcasting world, or you're just talking about actual news talk
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: radio with Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and whatever. Around
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: the country, it's probably 10%, maybe 12% of Americans consume
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: that kind of content. It's it's a very small group
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: of people in the bigger scheme of things. I mean,
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: it's millions and millions of Americans, don't get me wrong,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: but there's 330 million Americans, roughly 170 million are going
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: to be involved in some degree with political campaigns and
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: voting and that sort of stuff. So, you know, if
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: you've got 30 million listening, the vast majority are not.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: And the reason that people are listening to conservative stuff
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: is because they tend to lean that way or they
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: hate it. I love the fact that I have so
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: many people who hate my guts chiming in. I just said,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I just told one guy, appreciate you big guy. He's
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: just commented on some of the stuff. Um, and maybe
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: you do the same thing. Maybe you go and watch
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: like mainstream media outlets and just scream at the television.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: These people are lying. The lies, the lies. Anyway, we'll
• 54:33
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• 54:35
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• 54:49
  Speaker 3: I was just looking around Columbia, things to do tonight.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Boo at the Zoo is back. That goes through Friday
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: the 30th, the Riverbank Zoo. That's always a good time. $ 19,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: it looks like, to get in. But also tonight, Christopher,
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: are you going to the Garnet and Black Madness with
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Soulja Boy?
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: I'm going to have to sit that one out.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: This is the unofficial kickoff to basketball and Soulja Boy.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: He's the guy who sang that song that Shane Beamer
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: came out to. It was like four years ago. Put
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: the sunglasses on. Yeah, put my swag on. Anyway, he'll
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: be at the Colonial Life Arena, I guess, tonight. And
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: that's only six hours if you want to go cheer
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: the men's and women's on as they get ready to
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: take on the 2026 season. I think it was yesterday.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Maybe it was a day previous. Matthew McConaughey announced that
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: he is partnering with Joe Manchin. And they are trying
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: to drive America back to the middle.
• 55:51
  Speaker 16: The number one political identity in America today is not Republican.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: It is not Democrat.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: It is independent, more of us than either party.
• 56:01
  Speaker 11: So independents belong in the fight, not as a protest,
• 56:06
  Speaker 11: not as a spoiler, but as a real and potential
• 56:09
  Speaker 11: winner on the ballot and considered seriously by us.
• 56:15
  Speaker 16: This Congress is one of the narrowest in modern history.
• 56:19
  Speaker 16: In a Congress as close as this one, three to
• 56:21
  Speaker 16: five true independents, ones who don't caucus with either side, well, they're.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Not a minority.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: They're the majority maker.
• 56:31
  Speaker 11: Nothing passes without them.
• 56:33
  Speaker 16: Every bill has to come through the middle, which means
• 56:36
  Speaker 16: both parties would finally have to compete for the middle.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Most of us.
• 56:41
  Speaker 16: Independents don't just have leverage.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: They actually are the leverage.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Deep thoughts. Matthew McConaughey. And it's, look, Matthew's a great
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: actor and seems like a very likable person. And I
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: don't even think that he's wrong on a lot of
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: what he's saying there. Of course, if you had an independent,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: numerous independents, like he said, five of them or so,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: five people who did not caucus with either party, they
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: would be difference makers. The reality, though, is those people
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: don't exist. You have two independents currently serving, Angus King
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: and Bernie Sanders. They caucus with the Democrats. They also
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: basically run as Democrats. They've had the Democrat machine behind
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: them for years. Some would say Susan Collins and Lisa
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Murkowski are independent, but they are Republicans. It's it's. I
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: don't want to say it's impossible to run as an independent,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: but I will point out that Donald Trump basically tried
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: it as a third-party candidate years ago, and it was
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: an unmitigated disaster because you don't have the infrastructure. Donald
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Trump came to the realization that if you want to
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: change the Republican Party, and I know some of you
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: don't want to hear this, Donald Trump changed the Republican Party,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: and he made it more centrist. Yes, I said centrist.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump expanded the size of government. He expanded the
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: amount of spending in government. These are Democrat policies. Donald
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Trump agrees with a lot of the Democrat positions. He
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: also did some great things for the right. But if
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: you were just talking about a traditional Republican, Donald Trump
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: does not align with a traditional Republican.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: No, nobody would ever call Donald Trump a quote-unquote conservative.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: He needed to get into a party to change the party.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing that you see the DSA doing.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: You've got to get into the party and then change
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: the party from within. There is no independent unless they
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: are independently wealthy and can throw hundreds of millions of
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: dollars into a race and probably already have some name
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: recognition in Maybe from the world of business, but most
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: likely probably from the world of politics, meaning that at
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: some point. they were already affiliated with the Republican and
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: the Democrat party. And they just found one of the,
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: you know, they don't like the positions. They have a
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: centrist position that perhaps like Trump, they wanted to grow
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: some certain parts of the government, which again, conservatives would
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: be against all of that. We don't want to grow
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: any part of government. And at this point, I think
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: most Republicans would say we are willing to take a
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: second and harder look at the Pentagon budget, not looking
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: for base closures, not looking to cut the size of
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: the military, looking to cut the size of the money
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: that we spend on the military. It seems to be
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: too much. We should be able to dial that back
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: as well as dialing back a bunch of other programs
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: that we have in this country. And like the U.S. aid,
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: that was a fantastic cut. There's many more, though, that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: could still be made. You cannot run a deficit when
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: you're $ 40 trillion in debt already. That is a massive
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: problem for conservatives, not for Democrats. And for Democrats, you
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: can't have people in your party pushing for the ending
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: of the Constitution, for God's sakes. That is lunacy. you
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: have lunacy on the left, you've got a problem on
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: the right. And that's why I think when you look
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: at politics or excuse me, when you look at polls
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: right now, it seems as if most Americans are not
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: happy with either party, Christopher.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: That's yeah. That's, that's why you've got this huge, I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: don't know if, I don't know how big it is,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: but you know, McConaughey makes a great point. There are
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: people who consider themselves, you know, independent of either party.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: If it was a big enough faction, you know, what
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: would they do? They would form their own party. So
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: essentially they're going to, like you said, essentially they're going
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: to have to join the party, join the system in
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: order to make a big impact.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: And that's what the Donald Trump vote was originally was
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: we wanted to blow up DC, drain the swamp. And
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: it was a uniparty is what a lot of Americans
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: were saying back in 2016. I think some of them
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: are still saying it, that the Democrats and the Republicans,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: it's like pro wrestling that they, actually work together to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: fund each other's projects. That's how a lot of Americans
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: felt about it. But if you want a legit third party,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: now you're talking hundreds of billions of dollars needed. Or
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: are you just saying you want an independent to run
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: good luck without the infrastructure? Because again, Republicans and when
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: you look at this upcoming midterm, it's all about getting
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: voters who are part of the base to come out.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: We're looking at 40 to 45 percent of eligible voters voting.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: The majority of eligible voters, people who are registered to vote,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: are not even going to come out to this election
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: because they're turned off.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, turnout is going to be, that's going to be
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: the winner. Whoever can drive the biggest turnout. That's why
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: you see, and I mean, we're seeing it in neighborhoods
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: all over South Carolina. These parties are going door to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: door right now. It's not about digital. It's not about
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: what they hear on the radio or on TV. It's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: about making money. a physical contact with somebody and saying,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: let's get you to the polls on election day.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Could I drive you there now? Anyway, so I look,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Matthew McConaughey taking the very popular position. That's the most
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: popular position in America and probably setting himself up for
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: a run for Texas governor. And he'll give you the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: horns up before he does it. And I don't know.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Good luck, Matthew McConaughey. But no, his position of getting
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: independents elected to Congress in this election cycle is amazing.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: disingenuous at best. Uh, you need to vote for one
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: of the two parties. And again, I'm voting Republican with
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: James Carville. Uh, if you want to give us some
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: thoughts back on that, if you missed the James Carville
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: or whatever, Christopher, we'll have that up as part of
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: our SC morning news podcast. Shortly after the show ends today,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: you get that off the I heart radio app.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Live from the state Capitol. This is South Carolina's morning news.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: With Kelly Nash and Christopher Thompson. The, uh, Senate races
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: all across the country. We're in some weird waters right
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: now as the Cook Political Report has now moved. The
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: state of Minnesota is now leaning over. slightly left, although
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: the polls that have come out today show Michelle Tafoya
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: has taken the lead.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: To the state earlier this year.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 17: While she was second in command of this state, Minnesota
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 17: saw billions and billions and billions of fraud dollars walk
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 17: out the door to fraudsters while Medicaid was gutted.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 18: The governor's been very clear that the buck stops with him.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: That was the worst... When they raided that debate, which
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: happened Friday night, that's what did her in.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: The Minnesotans are like, what are you talking about? So
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: at this point, although the Cook political report shifts it
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: to leaning— let me get back to what they said about that.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Republicans have been bullish on Minnesota for months, given the
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: state's welfare fraud scandal, and that hope continues with new polling.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: The Democrat Senate nominee, Lieutenant Governor Penny Flanagan— recent polling
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: shows her continuing to trend down. Yeah, so if you
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: look at Minnesota, it looks like the Republicans are going
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: to pick that state up. However, I think that the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: big headline for us here in South Carolina, and they've
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: really captured the essence of it, I think, with their headline,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: the Cook Political Report, candidate quality shifts the Senate map.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: South Carolina and Mississippi are moving towards Democrats, Minnesota now
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: moving towards the GOP. The shift in states like South Carolina,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: which had started as solid Republican to likely Republican to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: now leaning Republican, further evidence, blah, blah, blah. Both races
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: feature unique factors that making each more competitive than they
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: actually should be. And I, you know, if you look
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: at the governor's race in South Carolina and Another poll
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: comes out, double-digit lead for the Republican, Alan Wilson, but
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: not so in the Senate race. And we were talking
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: with Ralph Norman. If you missed that earlier, maybe we'll
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: play some more of it a little later on here
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: in the show. But the entire podcast is up on
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: the National Briefing podcast if you want to hear the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Ralph Norman interview.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: I've got to think, as successful a campaign as Alan
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Wilson has run, and he's at this point pulling double
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: digits ahead of his competitor, Jermaine Johnson. I've got to
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: think there are going to be some coattails there that
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: Darlene Graham is going to get the advantage of tugging onto.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: Is it enough?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: Well, that's a big question.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of the same people are answering
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: the polls and saying, I'm voting for Allen, but I'm
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: voting for Casey Whitener. Or I'm voting, I'm still undecided.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Or I'm imagining a few of them are saying, I'm
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: going to vote for Annie Andrews.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: Maybe so.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: I just....
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Again, as strong a campaign as Wilson has run and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: as many people as– they might say one thing, but
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: they go to the polls and they're like, all right, well,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: I've stood in line for two hours. By the time
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: I finally get into the booth, I'm just going to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: select all Republican, and that's going to be my ticket.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: Is that a prayer or is that?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: That's my thought that it might happen.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: It might go that way. We hope that it goes
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: that way. And tonight will be a big night. We're
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: going to I'm sure tomorrow we'll be talking a lot
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: about what goes down tonight in Pendleton. Donald Trump is
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: in South Carolina with Darlene Graham. It said to help
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: candidates like Darlene Graham. I think it's pretty safe to
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: say it is to help Darlene Graham. If it was
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: about the first district and what's happening in Charleston, I
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: don't think Trump shows up. I don't think he cares
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: about the House races as much. He's here for Darlene Graham.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: And it's in the upstate where Ralph Norman dominated.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Yes. And again, you and I just talked about this.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: It's about getting the base out. The base of the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: South Carolina Republican Party lives in the upstate. They don't
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: live in the low country. They don't live in the PD.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: They don't live in the Midlands, although we have plenty
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: of them here. It is not the base. The base
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: is the upstate, which is usually like a plus 20,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: plus 25 for the Republicans, depending on which races you're
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: looking at. They dominate up there. And right now, those
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: people are sitting on their hands saying, I don't want
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: to vote. Can Trump get them back to the polls? Now, again,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of them are already angry at Trump. They
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: don't like the fact that Trump took away, in their estimation,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: their candidate, Ralph Norman. And so I don't know, does
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Trump help himself or hurt himself by showing up tonight?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: That's a great question. And I don't know what he
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: could say. I mean, I know, you know, he's made
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: promises at these various campaign stops he's done talking about,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: you know, on I'll give you this or, you know,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: I make a pledge to do this. If you elect
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: Republicans in the midterms, I don't know that there's anything
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: he can say to placate those who didn't like him
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: injecting himself into the race the first time around.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see what kind of dance he brings out.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: The Dog and Pony Show comes to town tonight. Pendleton,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: get ready for it. We'll be talking about it tomorrow morning.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: If you've got some early thoughts on that or the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: surprise in Minnesota or any of the other races that
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: we're following, let us know about it on the Talk
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: Back feature.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: With Kelly Nash and Christopher Thompson last night, I went
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: down to the Steel Hands Brewery in Casey for the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Congressman Joe Wilson bus tour. It was good to see him.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: put out a photo, kind of in defiance of his wife, Roxanne,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: who hates the thumbs-up videos. Put the thumbs-up in the picture.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: She hates that. Of course, she wasn't there yet, so
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: we posed for pictures like that. But he just texted me, Christopher.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: He says, you are a wise man. He believes... like
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: you believe. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: But he says, Christopher's correct as always. Oh, okay.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: I thought he was talking about you.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: No, Christopher Thompson is correct. The congressman wants you to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: know that.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: Very kind of him to say.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: And I think he's got his bus tour this morning.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: I think he'll be in Columbia on Two Notch Road
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: at U.S. Brick at about 10.05, according to the press
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: releases that I see going out. So I hope the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: congressman enjoys the bus tour. Not a lot of discussion
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: in District 2. We're having a lot in District 1
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: down in Charleston. We'll be Maybe getting back into that
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: and other things. And of course, your talk backs off
• 1:09:55
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• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: All right. Hope you're having a great start to your morning.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson, early this morning before we kicked
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: off the show at 6 a.m. Before that happened, I
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: spoke with Ralph Norman on the phone, getting his thoughts
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: on the Trump rally coming up tonight. His thoughts on
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Darlene Graham. Is he supporting her? And here's a little
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: excerpt of that discussion with the congressman.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: I will tell you this. For me to, in spite
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: of the $ 10 million that was spent against me, I
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: came close to getting 48% of the vote, which was
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: a miracle, to be honest with you. But 175,000 people
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: came out to support me. All that to say is
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: I'm going to do what I said personally. My family
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: is not going to vote for Darlene Cram. They're just not. Now,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: they're grown and with their own children can do what
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: they want. But I will because I promised to do that.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: But that's about as clear as I can make it.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: So we're talking with Congressman Ralph Norman. In this endeavor
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: to support the GOP candidate, would you be willing to.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: Do anything with Senator Graham campaign-wise? If they asked you
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: to appear with her at an event or something like that,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: would you be open to that?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: And they have already made that call. Not to me,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: but they made it to our chief of staff. And
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: I just can't take part in something that, again, I'm
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: going to back what I said about me personally supporting,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: but the way this played out and, you know, her
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: ducking debates. And the South Carolina Republican Party has got
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: some blame on their hands, along with President Trump, who
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: just did the wrong thing. And the other kind of,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, Tim Scott, Senator Scott, I like. But to
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: put the senatorial money against me, I had some of
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: the most conservative members of the Senate And Rick Scott
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: and Mike Lee support me. Who did Darlene have? Murkowski
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: and others. But, no, I would not do an event
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 6: with her, and I made that pretty clear. When I
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: conceded the race, I called her and congratulated her. But
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: that's the only time I've spoken with her.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 3: You can hear all of the interview with Ralph Norman.
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  Speaker 3: It's about 12 to 15 minutes, if I remember right.
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  Speaker 3: We got that up on the National Briefing podcast. Christopher,
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  Speaker 3: that's the first time you've heard that clip. Any fresh
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  Speaker 3: new thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 4: I understand he's bitter about the process. Correct. He's not
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  Speaker 4: necessarily bitter about Darlene Graham. He's bitter about the way
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  Speaker 4: people around her attacked him, the way people supporting her
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  Speaker 4: attacked him. And again, this is playing one set of
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  Speaker 4: Republicans against another, which— it's always bruising, it's always bloody
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  Speaker 4: during a primary battle, but this just felt different.
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  Speaker 3: I was surprised that he called out Tim Scott. He
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  Speaker 3: does name the South Carolina GOP, and of course he
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  Speaker 3: mentions Trump.
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  Speaker 8: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: But he is also now blaming Tim Scott for putting
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  Speaker 3: his hands on the scale, so to speak. If you
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  Speaker 1: and 94.3 WSC. Poor Ralph.
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  Speaker 3: All I got to say is it's just sour grapes.
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  Speaker 7: He's being a crybaby, and he could cost us this
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  Speaker 7: election if he doesn't straighten up.
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  Speaker 3: That seems to be a general consensus amongst a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the talkbacks, but not all of them. We've certainly
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  Speaker 3: heard from other people who absolutely agree with Ralph Norman
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  Speaker 3: that what happened here is a travesty and that Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump kind of threw the election to what some are
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: saying is the wrong candidate. Christopher, any thoughts on what
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  Speaker 3: we heard earlier from Ralph Norman?
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  Speaker 4: Well, we've got a few more talkbacks coming in.
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  Speaker 17: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: If you'll give me just a second.
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  Speaker 19: Norman sounds like a butthurt sore loser who lost two
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  Speaker 19: statewide primaries that the voters decide. So he's mad at
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  Speaker 19: the voters more than anybody. He just can't say that.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that one's coming in from the low country.
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  Speaker 3: I wish I knew who that was, but a great
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: butthurt sore loser.
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  Speaker 4: One more from the low country as well as we
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: dial it up here. And we're doing this in real time.
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  Speaker 3: Real time. Mega, mega Mike from Goose Creek.
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  Speaker 18: And I am really disappointed in Ralph Norman. I supported
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  Speaker 18: him and voted for him every time he was on
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  Speaker 18: the ballot. And my mind is completely changed now. I
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  Speaker 18: would never vote for Ralph Norman.
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  Speaker 3: Mega, mega Mike. I like it.
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  Speaker 4: From Goose Creek.
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  Speaker 3: I think we've heard from Mega Mega Mike before. I
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  Speaker 3: think so. I remember that nickname. It's a very powerful nickname. Mike,
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  Speaker 3: congratulations on coining that. You know, I think that just
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  Speaker 3: being honest, you're probably not going to have another opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to vote for Ralph Norman, I would think. I mean, maybe. He's,
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  Speaker 3: what is he, like 74 right now, something like that?
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't seem likely that he would. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 3: obviously not running for his house seat again. Not that
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  Speaker 3: you would be able to vote for that in Goose Creek.
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  Speaker 3: So it would have to be a statewide office. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Tim Scott's seat will be up. Is it
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: in two years that Tim Scott's seat is up? I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember.
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  Speaker 4: I think so.
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  Speaker 3: And then obviously the next governor's race is not for
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  Speaker 3: four more years. So it's doubtful that he'll be on
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  Speaker 3: the ballot. By the way, I did speak to him
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: about his future and where he sees that going. And
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: he's got some plans. He's got some thoughts and ideas.
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• 1:17:29
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• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: did he say again? Dang it, I just lost it.
• 1:17:36
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  Speaker 2: This is John in Lexington.
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  Speaker 3: Just want to check in about Mr.
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  Speaker 8: Norman.
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  Speaker 3: Voted for him and really want him to win. But
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, that's done.
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  Speaker 15: We've got to get behind Darlene and get it done
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 15: for our state and for our country.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate what you guys do. Well, thank you, John,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: from Lexington for using the Talkback feature and plugging in.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: I also got an email from John. I don't know,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: probably not the same John. He commented, I listened to you.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: So he's actually commenting on the entire interview. He listened
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: to the National Briefing podcast this morning because this email,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just seeing it now. It came in very early
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: this morning and we posted that about 6 a.m. I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: just listened to your interview with Ralph this morning and
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: his attitude towards this situation and me. As I needed
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: to recenter my day, I have turned to my Jesus-calling devotional.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: So we've got people praying. That's good. Kevin has chimed
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: in and says, Good morning, gentlemen. This is Kevin from
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Mount Pleasant. Yesterday, the Mount Pleasant mayor, Will Haley— Republican
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: was in a TV commercial endorsing Nancy LaCour. I voted
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: for him twice and I will never do it again.
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  Speaker 3: He's a traitor. Kevin, I agree. If you run as
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: a Republican, you should be team Republican. If you want
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: to be an independent, be an independent. And if you
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: want to be a Democrat, be a Democrat. And I
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  Speaker 3: also think it's important that we protect the parties. The
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  Speaker 3: Democrats have not done a good job of protecting the parties.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: You're seeing lots of What we would call traditional Democrats
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: now making their way to the microphone to condemn the
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: socialists that have infiltrated their party. That would have been
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: useful before it happened. Too little, too late. You should
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: have stopped AOC. You should have stopped Bernie Sanders. You
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: should have you should be why a lot of them
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: are full throated against James Tallarico. and they're against El-Sayed,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: and they're against a bunch of them, but it's too
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: little too late. They're winning. They just won in New York, what,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: three seats? I mean, basically they won. They won their primaries,
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  Speaker 3: which means they're going to win because it's a, you know,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: 70-30 type of district, so they're going to win, and
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: they're going to have more House members, and it's just
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: going to continue to get worse and worse, and that's
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: why James Carville, if you missed that point earlier, said,
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  Speaker 3: I'm I don't want the Democrats to win the House
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  Speaker 3: if it's only going to be by five seats, because
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: if they're going to win by five seats, that means
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  Speaker 3: that they're going to have to give in to the socialists. Now,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: if they had a 20-seat margin, he thinks, Carville, that
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  Speaker 3: they would bring it back to the center and they
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  Speaker 3: would start eliminating the socialists. I'm not so sure. I'd
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: look at this type of a problem like we talked
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: about earlier with chemotherapy. You've got to take the the body,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: in this instance, the Democrat body, as close to death
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: as possible in order to starve the socialists, make them
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  Speaker 3: go start their own party. And they had their own party,
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  Speaker 3: and then they just kind of wormed their way in
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: like a cancer into the Democrats, and now they're killing
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: the Democrat party. The same thing is true for us
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  Speaker 3: on the Republican side. We have to be vigilant against
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: extremists Like Nick Fuentes and others who want to infiltrate
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  Speaker 3: the party and take us down a path that most
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: of us don't agree with. And so, thankfully, we've done
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  Speaker 3: a pretty good job of it.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting to note, Kelly, of all the talkbacks we received today,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: the write-in Ralph campaign folks, the supporters, have been very
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: quiet this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. You know what? That is a challenge for you
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  Speaker 3: right in, Ralphers. Will you get on the Talkback feature
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow or text that, tweet us, email us, whatever? Again,
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  Speaker 3: you can listen to the entire show today and confirm
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: what Christopher said by listening to all the Talkbacks on
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: the SC Morning News podcast up on the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 3: Have a great day. Can't wait to see what Trump
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: says tonight in Pendleton.