Latest / I Do, Part 2 / How Long Is Too Long To Be Engaged? (Asking For A Friend)
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Saturday, March twenty eighth, and
- 0:14Speaker 1: how long is too long to be engaged? That question,
- 0:19Speaker 1: plus a drunken night out with robox Mom, has now
- 0:24Speaker 1: triggered our wedding planning. And with that, welcome to this
- 0:28Speaker 1: episode of Amy and DJ. And all of that is true.
- 0:31Speaker 1: I don't know how we end up where we are
- 0:34Speaker 1: right now, but we have just been would you not say,
- 0:37Speaker 1: Robes in the past twenty four to forty eight hours
- 0:40Speaker 1: have had more serious talks about wedding planning than we
- 0:43Speaker 1: have since we got engaged.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Yes, that is true. And we just came back from
- 0:47Speaker 2: a trip to Atlanta and we.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Saw my mom.
- 0:49Speaker 1: No girl, it's a good night out and it was
- 0:51Speaker 1: so fun.
- 0:52Speaker 2: We had a blast, too much fun actually, But yes, look,
- 0:56Speaker 2: it comes up inevitably, just kind of questions about if
- 1:01Speaker 2: we had considered when we were getting married. We get
- 1:04Speaker 2: asked every time we go out with friends. Some people
- 1:06Speaker 2: will it's always just a kind curiosity.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Even randoms. Sometimes. We were at the next game the
- 1:12Speaker 1: other day, the first person we saw was Tracy Morgan.
- 1:17Speaker 1: He's pressing us, when are you getting married?
- 1:20Speaker 3: Pressing us, why are you waiting?
- 1:22Speaker 1: Pressing us? To get all right. So, yes, everybody does it, so.
- 1:26Speaker 3: We had to be totally honest.
- 1:28Speaker 2: I really do think we aren't deliberately avoiding the conversation.
- 1:34Speaker 2: I do think we are actually so busy and we
- 1:37Speaker 2: have you know what, that's not fair because we have
- 1:39Speaker 2: prioritize vacation planning. There are other things that we be
- 1:44Speaker 2: put that ahead, and so without talking about it, we
- 1:47Speaker 2: have put it on the back burner, even discussing the plants.
- 1:50Speaker 2: It's not like we wanted to wait a year because
- 1:53Speaker 2: of X, or we need to wait until we get
- 1:55Speaker 2: to this. There is none of that. We just aren't
- 2:00Speaker 2: discussing it. We did say that we are enjoying saying fiance.
- 2:04Speaker 2: That's fun, like that's a fun stage of a relationship.
- 2:07Speaker 2: So we kind of don't want that to end. And
- 2:09Speaker 2: there maybe is this fear in the back of both
- 2:11Speaker 2: of our minds that we're not discussing about what marriage
- 2:16Speaker 2: might do to our relationship.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Really, that's not the bad has not been in the
- 2:19Speaker 1: back of my mind. I didn't realize it was in
- 2:21Speaker 1: the back of you.
- 2:22Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if subconsciously all playing a role based
- 2:26Speaker 2: on our other relationships. I don't know I'm just wondering
- 2:30Speaker 2: if that is maybe something in our subconscious or is
- 2:35Speaker 2: it that I'm afraid that what I want isn't what
- 2:38Speaker 2: you want, or what you want isn't.
- 2:39Speaker 3: What I want. I don't know because we haven't talked about.
- 2:42Speaker 1: It, we folks, Despite what anything you've read, we have
- 2:47Speaker 1: not had a serious conversation about time, place, attendees.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Nothing, No, And you actually said to me today, all right,
- 2:58Speaker 2: should we start talking about like what do we need
- 3:01Speaker 2: to figure out everything? We need to figure out who
- 3:05Speaker 2: we want there, where we want it to take place,
- 3:08Speaker 2: and when we want it to happen. And we have
- 3:11Speaker 2: not not actually come to a discussion about any of
- 3:15Speaker 2: those things.
- 3:15Speaker 1: We have nothing.
- 3:16Speaker 2: We've thrown ideas out about who, and that's it. We
- 3:20Speaker 2: haven't well, maybe we've thrown some ideas out about where,
- 3:24Speaker 2: but we certainly have not discussed when.
- 3:26Speaker 1: We have not had a substance of conversation about our
- 3:29Speaker 1: wedding at all since we got engaged. And that's pushed
- 3:34Speaker 1: me to ask you what's the right amount of time?
- 3:37Speaker 1: How long is too long? I think I put it
- 3:39Speaker 1: that way. How long is too long? Now? Just top
- 3:41Speaker 1: of your head before we start, we actually google this,
- 3:43Speaker 1: But off the top of your head, how long is
- 3:46Speaker 1: too long? What would your answer have been.
- 3:48Speaker 2: I think I would have said anything over three years.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Why three?
- 3:53Speaker 2: Just because it's like, at that point, what are you
- 3:55Speaker 2: waiting for. It's not like there's a venue you've waited for,
- 3:58Speaker 2: or I guess if you had some short term financial goal,
- 4:02Speaker 2: if you haven't reached it at that point, I don't know.
- 4:05Speaker 2: It would just be like, maybe there's another issue, there's
- 4:07Speaker 2: another thing going on that you're not addressing, and there's
- 4:10Speaker 2: a reason why you're deliberately dragging your feet that is
- 4:14Speaker 2: dragging your feet.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Should there be a minimum
- 4:18Speaker 1: time of engagement? Yes, I do think so why do
- 4:22Speaker 1: you think that should be?
- 4:23Speaker 2: I think that you should. I think you should give
- 4:25Speaker 2: it a year. I think you should spend a year
- 4:27Speaker 2: with the idea that everyone you know and love, and
- 4:30Speaker 2: everyone you meet, and every person you might encounter who
- 4:32Speaker 2: could be a potential suitor, even that you have publicly
- 4:35Speaker 2: stated with the ring on your finger or with the
- 4:37Speaker 2: intention that you are going to spend the rest of
- 4:40Speaker 2: your life with someone else, and really sit with that
- 4:42Speaker 2: decision because it is actually I think, having now gone
- 4:46Speaker 2: through two divorces a hundred percent, and I did not
- 4:49Speaker 2: take it seriously.
- 4:51Speaker 1: How long were you engagement?
- 4:53Speaker 2: So? My first one was a year okay, and my
- 4:56Speaker 2: second one was four month stably.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, how about you?
- 5:03Speaker 1: Uh first one was non existent, kind of an eloping thing,
- 5:08Speaker 1: and the second was the year okay.
- 5:10Speaker 3: So I do think you a year will help.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Obviously it didn't matter necessarily with either of us, but
- 5:17Speaker 2: I think that that gives you the opportunity to really
- 5:20Speaker 2: let it sink in. I just was so young, I
- 5:22Speaker 2: was still so focused on my career. I wasn't actually
- 5:25Speaker 2: letting anything sink in. I was just like, next, next, next,
- 5:28Speaker 2: I was just checking boxes.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Okay. Sorry, you weren't talking about suitors with next.
- 5:32Speaker 4: No, But what I needed to know I was just
- 5:36Speaker 4: joking a second. We were talking about marriage, and that's okay.
- 5:41Speaker 4: So is there any reason then to wait? You said
- 5:45Speaker 4: three years is too long, you should give it at
- 5:47Speaker 4: least a year then, but what, well, I'll go ahead.
- 5:52Speaker 1: You like you were about to jump in there. But yeah,
- 5:53Speaker 1: is there any reason to wait? I guess it depends
- 5:56Speaker 1: on Okay, I won't incorporate us into this yet, what
- 5:59Speaker 1: reason can and you give to wait, you said, yes,
- 6:03Speaker 1: you want to marry me, I want to marry you
- 6:05Speaker 1: might as well go get married tomorrow.
- 6:07Speaker 2: I would think the only time, or the only instance
- 6:09Speaker 2: where it would make sense is if you were long
- 6:11Speaker 2: distance and you knew, once I get this degree or
- 6:14Speaker 2: once I get this job, I can move and we
- 6:17Speaker 2: can live in the same city, and I can understand
- 6:19Speaker 2: not wanting to get married, and so you can actually
- 6:21Speaker 2: live together.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. Okay, that's practical. Yes, okay, but
- 6:26Speaker 1: you live on that side of town. I'm over here.
- 6:29Speaker 1: What is? What is?
- 6:30Speaker 2: Then?
- 6:30Speaker 3: I think you'd have to ask yourself why are you waiting?
- 6:33Speaker 1: Like what?
- 6:33Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you just go ahead and get married?
- 6:35Speaker 1: Okay, that's the question. A lot of people wait because
- 6:38Speaker 1: they're planning a wedding, right, you need to That's true.
- 6:40Speaker 3: You have to get you have to wait for a
- 6:42Speaker 3: venue sometimes go time.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Okay, all that aside. If someone says, will you marry
- 6:47Speaker 1: me and the response is yes, throw out the practical
- 6:51Speaker 1: things you talked about with the planning of the wedding
- 6:53Speaker 1: and someone graduate from college, da da is there any
- 6:56Speaker 1: reason you need to sit with an engagement no matter
- 7:00Speaker 1: what for a little while.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Would you say yes, I think if you how long
- 7:04Speaker 2: have you known each other before the engagement?
- 7:06Speaker 3: I think that's really important.
- 7:08Speaker 2: So you know, when you said I thought you might
- 7:09Speaker 2: be trying to jump in, I was going to jump
- 7:11Speaker 2: in with us because I was actually gonna say, I
- 7:14Speaker 2: think you have to consider the fact that we have
- 7:16Speaker 2: been close friends for eight years before we even started dating,
- 7:20Speaker 2: and then we took and.
- 7:22Speaker 3: It was very tumultuous. I think it would have been
- 7:24Speaker 3: very well advised to wait.
- 7:26Speaker 2: We took from the time I think I guess what
- 7:29Speaker 2: was it almost almost three years right until from the
- 7:33Speaker 2: time we were in a romantic relationship until the time
- 7:36Speaker 2: you proposed it was almost three years. I've only wow, Wow,
- 7:40Speaker 2: we actually have a slow rollship. I think we would
- 7:45Speaker 2: be an exception that we could have gotten married probably the.
- 7:48Speaker 3: Next day, and it doesn't make a difference.
- 7:51Speaker 2: I don't need to test us or learn more about
- 7:54Speaker 2: you or your family, or how you act or react
- 7:57Speaker 2: to hard times. Been there, done that? Act to good times?
- 8:01Speaker 2: How do we live our days together? You know, just
- 8:04Speaker 2: doing nothing together. We've done all of that. We've traveled
- 8:07Speaker 2: the world together. So I don't need to find anything
- 8:10Speaker 2: else out about you at this point. I think we've
- 8:12Speaker 2: been managing our communication skills and that level of intimacy
- 8:17Speaker 2: and understanding I think has been it's been important. I'm
- 8:20Speaker 2: glad we've taken the time to do that because it
- 8:23Speaker 2: is a transition to go from a friendship to a
- 8:25Speaker 2: romance and tell folks, what.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Is the You did the some quick research. You can
- 8:30Speaker 1: cite the source, but I don't know it sounds about right.
- 8:33Speaker 1: The average length of time that engagements are these days.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Yeah, the knot says that the average length of an
- 8:40Speaker 2: engagement is fifteen months, and it's been that exact same
- 8:44Speaker 2: length of time since twenty twenty two. So for the
- 8:46Speaker 2: last four years, fifteen months is the average. And they
- 8:49Speaker 2: said a couple of years it might go up to
- 8:51Speaker 2: sixteen months or down to thirteen months, but pretty much
- 8:54Speaker 2: it stays right around that area.
- 8:56Speaker 3: And that is that does make a lot of sense.
- 8:58Speaker 2: I think for the timing of people mostly want these
- 9:02Speaker 2: big weddings and so, yes, you've got a book a venue,
- 9:05Speaker 2: you've got a book of floorist. Sometimes you have to
- 9:08Speaker 2: you have to wait longer than you want to because
- 9:10Speaker 2: of that. So I would imagine that plays a lot
- 9:13Speaker 2: of it.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Does it take away there and we said this. So
- 9:17Speaker 1: we just are enjoying being engaged. It's fun that we
- 9:21Speaker 1: know we have something to look forward to. Even the
- 9:23Speaker 1: way people talk to you is is a little different.
- 9:26Speaker 1: I yeah, isn't that? Yes, that's a worthy time.
- 9:30Speaker 3: It's been fun and I have enjoyed it and I
- 9:32Speaker 3: really do like it. But we just did the math.
- 9:35Speaker 3: What is it seven months we've been engaged now, So
- 9:37Speaker 3: I'm at a.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Point now where and even talking to my mom, I
- 9:42Speaker 2: do want to start making plans.
- 9:44Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be tomorrow.
- 9:46Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be six months for now, but
- 9:48Speaker 2: I would like to kind of you and I sit
- 9:50Speaker 2: down and actually say this. If I ranked the top
- 9:55Speaker 2: three ways we did it, who I'd want there?
- 9:57Speaker 3: And when we did it? I think we just we
- 9:59Speaker 3: need to start having those conversations.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Okay, why haven't we had those conversations yet, one might ask.
- 10:08Speaker 1: We'll have that answer for you when we come back. Also,
- 10:12Speaker 1: I will tell you about this wild drunken night out
- 10:17Speaker 1: with Rollbox Mama. All right, we continue here on Amy
- 10:31Speaker 1: and TJ. How long it's too long to be engaged?
- 10:34Speaker 1: We're within the right windows. Seven months isn't terrible? We okay,
- 10:38Speaker 1: still got some time. I can stretch this thing out
- 10:40Speaker 1: as long as we need to. Everything's all right, You're
- 10:45Speaker 1: I don't know you You did have a moment. I
- 10:48Speaker 1: guess with your mom, more so because people ask us
- 10:52Speaker 1: all the time when you when's wedding and when you
- 10:54Speaker 1: guys get get married, and a lot of people put
- 10:56Speaker 1: in their bids wherever you're gonna go, Well, we'll be
- 10:57Speaker 1: there and make sure you don't forget us, And that's
- 10:59Speaker 1: that kind of thing. That stuff's just fun. But I
- 11:02Speaker 1: guess it got a little more serious when your mom.
- 11:05Speaker 1: There are questions your mom was asking that seemed to
- 11:07Speaker 1: hit a little harder than everybody else's random questions. Yeah.
- 11:10Speaker 2: I mean, I think they don't want to be intrusive,
- 11:13Speaker 2: and they want it to be the way we want it,
- 11:16Speaker 2: and they'll be happy for us if we elope if
- 11:19Speaker 2: we bring no one, but obviously they want to be
- 11:22Speaker 2: there and they're really excited about meeting your parents.
- 11:26Speaker 3: That's something she also touched on, and so I think
- 11:28Speaker 3: the idea I actually hearing her in a very sweet.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Way, a non pushy way, just suggest or just definitely
- 11:37Speaker 2: let us know that they are ready, willing and able
- 11:40Speaker 2: to be wherever they need to be to see us
- 11:42Speaker 2: get married and to be in support of that. I
- 11:44Speaker 2: started thinking, you know, we had to run and hide
- 11:46Speaker 2: for so much of that year. It was just awful,
- 11:49Speaker 2: and there was this feeling of almost not feeling worthy of.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Or not being ready.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Of being accepted, even because we just felt so out
- 12:00Speaker 2: of sight and just so concerned about what would people think.
- 12:03Speaker 2: So the idea of now maybe eloping I don't love
- 12:06Speaker 2: as much as I thought initially, because I like the
- 12:08Speaker 2: idea of standing proudly, of letting our family love us
- 12:13Speaker 2: and support us and cheer us on and holding our
- 12:16Speaker 2: heads up high. That I like the idea of that
- 12:19Speaker 2: more and more after everything we've been through.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Well, that all you just said makes perfect sense, and
- 12:23Speaker 1: I will. I am completely on board. I was open
- 12:26Speaker 1: to anything and everything if we did elpe, Yes, the
- 12:30Speaker 1: way you just explained, it is something you do not
- 12:32Speaker 1: want to happen, So that won't be the case.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I don't think I knew that until like
- 12:38Speaker 3: just the second.
- 12:39Speaker 2: That Actually, just everything else, I think because of what
- 12:43Speaker 2: we had to go through, it seems like that's the
- 12:46Speaker 2: last thing we should do.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Well, it seemed you get to a point and you
- 12:50Speaker 1: get folks convincing you that your story, your relationship, your friendship,
- 12:54Speaker 1: your love is not something worth celebrating because they have
- 12:57Speaker 1: convinced you that it is some way tainted. And we
- 13:05Speaker 1: actually know that's not the case, but we didn't want
- 13:08Speaker 1: to bring anybody into our mess to a certain degree
- 13:11Speaker 1: forcing it. I mean, I remember this was straighthand when
- 13:14Speaker 1: we had lunch with him, we were telling him, hey,
- 13:17Speaker 1: you want to do it here, want to do it
- 13:18Speaker 1: there to make sure you're not seen with us.
- 13:20Speaker 3: Yes, you don't get our staying on you.
- 13:22Speaker 1: He was like, what the hell are y'all talking about?
- 13:24Speaker 1: And that was one of the early ones to where
- 13:26Speaker 1: we said, oh my god, everybody loves us and supports us. Yes,
- 13:28Speaker 1: because their friends and their family and they've seen us,
- 13:31Speaker 1: they know what's going on. So yes to that thing.
- 13:35Speaker 1: We will make sure robes I will not ever be
- 13:38Speaker 1: pushing to a lope or do anything that does not
- 13:40Speaker 1: include family. Yeah.
- 13:41Speaker 2: I really think now that's a cool thing after everything
- 13:45Speaker 2: we've been through to see your parents, my parents are siblings,
- 13:49Speaker 2: our kids. I think that is something that I am
- 13:52Speaker 2: now a lot. I'm leaning way more in that category.
- 13:57Speaker 1: And I assure you Folks, as you're listening to us,
- 13:59Speaker 1: this is you are absolutely hearing the most detailed, extensive
- 14:07Speaker 1: conversation we have had about our wedding planning. This is it.
- 14:12Speaker 1: There's been nothing else. It's been wild Robes to read
- 14:16Speaker 1: some things about who we're inviting, who we're not inviting,
- 14:19Speaker 1: Where there was a location at one point what and
- 14:22Speaker 1: it was a location there was zero chance in hell
- 14:24Speaker 1: we ever have a wedding there. So this is it
- 14:28Speaker 1: has been fun to talk about this. But the night
- 14:30Speaker 1: out with your mom, we were in Atlanta, Robes at
- 14:32Speaker 1: the she was a keynote at the Dress Work Success
- 14:35Speaker 1: event down there. If you don't know who Dressed for
- 14:36Speaker 1: Success is down in Atlanta, Georgia, check them out, look
- 14:40Speaker 1: them up. But did the keynote down there. So, but
- 14:43Speaker 1: we got to go the day before going the night
- 14:46Speaker 1: before four Seasons place I've spent a lot of time
- 14:50Speaker 1: with on in Midtown in Atlanta. It's home essentially, yes,
- 14:56Speaker 1: But we had an unexpected night out with you. It
- 15:00Speaker 1: would have been both your parents. Your dad had something
- 15:02Speaker 1: else to do, but we got this gift Robes that
- 15:05Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate enough beforehand. But the three of us
- 15:11Speaker 1: got to sit down and not I guess robes. We
- 15:14Speaker 1: weren't anything other than friends and buddies and having a
- 15:18Speaker 1: good time. We're not ducking behind anything. We're not worried
- 15:20Speaker 1: about work, which just it was a wonderful night with
- 15:24Speaker 1: your mom.
- 15:24Speaker 3: It was fun. She got to tell stories about how
- 15:27Speaker 3: it was like for her growing up and just.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Having a blast reminiscing, going over old times. And it
- 15:34Speaker 2: was nice to see my mom just loose and holding
- 15:38Speaker 2: court in a way even right.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Really, And it was Margarita after skinny Margarita after skinny Margarita.
- 15:44Speaker 1: Thank you to the folks at the four season there
- 15:46Speaker 1: and Atlanta. Always take good care to a man, Jayden Rose,
- 15:49Speaker 1: who round too in the lobby as well. I hadn't
- 15:52Speaker 1: seen him in a while and got to introduce him
- 15:54Speaker 1: to your mama.
- 15:55Speaker 2: And she had no idea who he was, no idea,
- 15:57Speaker 2: but she protected my dad, didn't you.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Well, she had to go home and say I met
- 16:02Speaker 1: Jalen Rose of Michigan fame, and your dad's a Michigan
- 16:06Speaker 1: State guy. So I'm not sure how that went over
- 16:09Speaker 1: at the house, but it was a wonderful, wonderful night,
- 16:12Speaker 1: and it did. It sparked more serious conversation about our
- 16:16Speaker 1: own wedding planning. I don't know where we go from here,
- 16:19Speaker 1: but we will continue this conversation as soon as we
- 16:22Speaker 1: stop recording. I'm sure.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Okay, good, because I was going to ask you the
- 16:25Speaker 2: next question if you had in your mind the average okay,
- 16:30Speaker 2: the average engagements fifteen months, how long before you would
- 16:34Speaker 2: want to get married? Like, do you have a cutoff
- 16:37Speaker 2: or a timeline at all in your head?
- 16:39Speaker 1: I don't. The thing is, I just wanted to I
- 16:43Speaker 1: just wanted to enjoy being engaged. I wanted to go
- 16:47Speaker 1: through a cycle of engagement. I wanted to go through.
- 16:50Speaker 1: I just wanted to enjoy this. It's just fun. After that,
- 16:54Speaker 1: I don't have a date, and I don't I have
- 16:57Speaker 1: here lately, I've said it to you, let's just get married,
- 17:00Speaker 1: Let's just let's just you know what. It has a
- 17:03Speaker 1: lot to do with stuff we cover. Stuff is happening
- 17:05Speaker 1: in people's lives that are in our lives, and like,
- 17:09Speaker 1: why are we waiting to delay?
- 17:12Speaker 2: Why?
- 17:13Speaker 1: That has a lot to do with it. So I
- 17:16Speaker 1: don't know, So what's your timing.
- 17:18Speaker 2: I just had an idea, I just had I just
- 17:20Speaker 2: had an idea of when I would like to get made.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Tell me the whin you want me to say when?
- 17:26Speaker 1: If you don't want to, that's fine.
- 17:27Speaker 3: I was just thinking tell me the win.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to hear, because then we commit
- 17:32Speaker 1: to it publicly.
- 17:34Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you. I'll tell you when we get off.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Is there aware I do?
- 17:41Speaker 3: I had something in mind?
- 17:42Speaker 1: Yes, okay, but you're gonna hold that too, yes, okay.
- 17:45Speaker 3: I don't know how you'll feel about it.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Is there a number of attendees? I? Yes, Oh you
- 17:50Speaker 1: want to tell me that, or you're gonna hold that too.
- 17:51Speaker 1: I hold everything, you're holding all of it.
- 17:53Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold it all.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Okay. Then all right, folks, Well, we always appreciate you
- 17:57Speaker 1: sticking around with us, and especially since we give you
- 18:00Speaker 1: episodes with very little information apparently, and with that, we
- 18:04Speaker 1: appreciate you hanging with us on DJ Holmes And I
- 18:08Speaker 1: cannot wait to have this conversation with my fiance as
- 18:11Speaker 1: soon as we stop