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The Ron Edwards American Experience - 261016 Faith Day · The Ron Edwards American Experience V2

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  Speaker 1: God, I love this station.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Pete Cunningham from Lancashire's Lighthouse Radio Ministries, and
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  Speaker 3: you're listening to the Ron Edwards American Experience.
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  Speaker 2: And away we go.
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  Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen, it's the Ron Edwards American Experience Talk Show.
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  Speaker 3: Where our unalienable rights are celebrated. And now, your radio refreshment,
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  Speaker 3: Ron Edwards.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, my friends. This is the Ron Edwards American Experience
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  Speaker 2: Fake Day Edition. I'm Ron Edwards, and yeah, I am
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  Speaker 2: your radio refreshment, and we've got a great show lined
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  Speaker 2: up for you today. We're going to take a different
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  Speaker 2: approach than we normally do. Today's focus is the light
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  Speaker 2: of Jesus extinguishing the darkness of the mob. In 1968,
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  Speaker 2: there was a band formed called.
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  Speaker 1: Rush.
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  Speaker 2: And it's considered one of the many, one of the
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  Speaker 2: greatest bands of all time, in fact. And the band
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  Speaker 2: was known for its highly skilled musicianship and complex and
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  Speaker 2: eclectic compositions, which drew primarily on science fiction, fantasy, and philosophy.
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  Speaker 2: Rush helped to popularize the idea of concept albums and
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  Speaker 2: long-form storytelling in rock music with albums such as 2012,
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  Speaker 2: which came out in 1976, Hemispheres in 1978, and Moving
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  Speaker 2: Pictures in 1981. Geddy Lee, the lead vocalist, bassist, and
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  Speaker 2: keyboardist for Rush, was born Gary Lee Weinrib on July
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  Speaker 2: 29th of 1953 in Toronto, Ontario, to Moshe Mir Wanrai
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  Speaker 2: and Malka Now, both were from Poland. His parents, that is,
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  Speaker 2: were Jewish Holocaust survivors who survived the ghetto in Stachowicz,
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  Speaker 2: where they had met, and the imprisonment at the Auschwitz,
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  Speaker 2: at Dachau, and Bergen also. And they were separated. And
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  Speaker 2: after four years, during the Allied they were reunited and
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  Speaker 2: they were married. And eventually they migrated to Canada. And
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  Speaker 2: so Geddy Lee's family history may have played a role
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  Speaker 2: in the composition of one of Russia's hit songs, Witch Hunt,
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  Speaker 2: which debuted on their Moving Pictures 1981 album and for
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  Speaker 2: many years has often been part of their song lineups
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  Speaker 2: when they go to concert tours all over the world. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the song begins with the sounds of a gathering mob
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  Speaker 2: being whipped up into a furious state by semi-distinct ominous
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  Speaker 2: voices calling on them to seek out the objects of
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  Speaker 2: their anger and to kill them. And so, when you
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  Speaker 2: think about that, it kind of looks like today sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it? While Hunt is also reminiscent of the infamous
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  Speaker 2: Salem witch trials that took place between February 1692 and
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  Speaker 2: May of 1693, where a group of young girls in Salem, Massachusetts,
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  Speaker 2: claiming to be attacked by the devil, accused several local
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  Speaker 2: women of witchcraft. A wave of hysterical accusations spread throughout
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  Speaker 2: the town, and many of the charges of witchcraft were
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  Speaker 2: leveled by envious, poorer residents. against more prosperous ones, by
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  Speaker 2: those who were prejudiced against certain families over property lines
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  Speaker 2: and grazing rights, and by those who had disputes with
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  Speaker 2: them and their neighbors over church practices and certain privileges.
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  Speaker 2: By the end of the Salem witch trials, more than
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  Speaker 2: 200 people were accused of witchcraft. Mobs would form at times. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to make a long story short, A few
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  Speaker 2: years after the trials, several of the young girls who
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  Speaker 2: initiated the accusations of witchcraft admitted that they had fabricated
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing. Of course, about 19 people were hanged.
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  Speaker 2: Five of them died in a jail that was filled
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  Speaker 2: with disease. One was burned. And it was just a
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  Speaker 2: horrible situation. Now, the Code Witch Hunt provides a grim
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  Speaker 2: warning of how human nature can be twisted by false narratives,
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  Speaker 2: generating fear, envy, and hatred against groups or individuals that
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  Speaker 2: can be left unbattled or unabated and lead to atrocities
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  Speaker 2: such as the Salem Witch Trials or the Holocaust or
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  Speaker 2: even the October 7th attack on Israel. You know, it's, again,
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  Speaker 2: kind of like today's Reminds me of a story that
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  Speaker 2: I talked about earlier this week in which a store
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  Speaker 2: owner in Brooklyn, New York, is still to this very
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  Speaker 2: second being attacked by leftist-leaning individuals who are fans of
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  Speaker 2: Kelly Clarkson. And remember I told you about how she
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  Speaker 2: went into the store and She was going to buy
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  Speaker 2: several items. And then there was one particular item she
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  Speaker 2: wanted to buy. And the store said, this is not
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  Speaker 2: for sale because they would not sell it to her.
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  Speaker 2: She went to Nutsville and said that she was treated
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  Speaker 2: like a nobody. Okay. In other words, they didn't kiss
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  Speaker 2: her backside. So she went out, went on X and
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  Speaker 2: told her followers, which are many, that she was treated cruelly.
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  Speaker 2: And she doxed the store. And the store has been under,
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  Speaker 2: the store owner and the staff have been under death threats.
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  Speaker 2: They've been getting horrible reviews, etc., etc., etc. This is
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  Speaker 2: a story that up to that moment had been very popular,
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  Speaker 2: very well liked in the neighborhood where they are in Brooklyn, etc., etc.
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  Speaker 1: etc.
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  Speaker 2: And this is kind of reminiscent of the kind of
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  Speaker 2: situation that we've had in our society today, where when
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  Speaker 2: people decide someone is guilty when they know they're not,
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  Speaker 2: like the seventh male college students from Cornell. They're being told,
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  Speaker 2: everyone is being told that they are automatically guilty without
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  Speaker 2: any evidence. Prosecutors, a couple of years ago when all
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  Speaker 2: this transpired, they said, well, there's no evidence of them
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  Speaker 2: forcing themselves upon that young lady. But now all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, because they've decided, well, we want to get
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  Speaker 2: these guys anyway, no matter what, The protruding face female,
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  Speaker 2: Leticia James, has been sicked upon them. And so she
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  Speaker 2: wants to throw them in jail as a prosecutor. Now,
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  Speaker 2: how can she oversee a trial, by the way, when
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  Speaker 2: she's already said they're guilty? But it's a mob mentality.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of them, they've been thrown out of school.
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  Speaker 2: Their names are out all over the place. But of course,
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  Speaker 2: the female that accused them now Before she didn't say
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  Speaker 2: that they raped her. She said, oh, it was all,
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  Speaker 2: you know, consent. She did everything she wanted to do
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  Speaker 2: and they wanted to do, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: Turns out she wasn't intoxicated when she said she was.
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  Speaker 2: But yet they want to leave her name in secret.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the kind of leftist activity that is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, prevalent today. And I can see how this
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  Speaker 2: can be used against the church on a larger scale
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  Speaker 2: if the church doesn't hurry up and wake up. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we've got a very exciting rest of the show for
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  Speaker 2: you today. We've got a very great guest. He's going
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  Speaker 2: to be showing up on the other side of the break.
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  Speaker 2: We shall introduce him then. I'm Ron Edwards, and this
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, my friends. And you are listening to the
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  Speaker 2: Landover-Termegren Experience on your radio refreshment. You know, woe to
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  Speaker 2: those who call evil good and good evil. Who substitute
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  Speaker 2: darkness for light and light for darkness. Who substitute bitter
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  Speaker 2: of destruction when it reaches the point of where those
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  Speaker 2: who perpetrate or condone evil acts, and they in fact
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  Speaker 2: turn around and defend them, justify them, reward them. And
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  Speaker 2: evildoers are not held accountable and being responsible or responsible
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  Speaker 2: for their wickedness. And those who standing up for what
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  Speaker 2: is good and righteousness are vilified, harassed, and threatened with destruction. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: that's America and the world. Not just America, but the world. Well, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Open Arms Ministries. Hello, sir, and welcome to the Ron
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  Speaker 2: Edwards American Experience.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing, Ron? Emil Gretterson here.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much. We know you've been pretty busy.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: We do thank you for taking time out of your
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  Speaker 2: busy schedule to be with us today. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you heard my monologue, but the main focus
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  Speaker 2: is that it amazes me how today there seems to
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  Speaker 2: be a mob mentality, not only in the political realm
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  Speaker 2: and even sometimes in the church realm, where those who
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  Speaker 2: should be uplifted for doing what is right, for standing
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  Speaker 2: up for what is right, And people that are doing
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  Speaker 2: the right thing seem to be most under attack today.
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  Speaker 2: And it's in the political realm, the church realm, and
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  Speaker 2: just about anywhere you go today. To the point where,
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  Speaker 2: for example, what happened on that fateful October 7th day
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  Speaker 2: when Israel was attacked. And the people just went to
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  Speaker 2: Nutsville and they've turned it around. And 90% of the
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  Speaker 2: people are blaming Israel for that attack and acting as
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  Speaker 2: if Israel has been the perpetrator of all the evil
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  Speaker 2: since day one. What say you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think you're hitting on something that's really at
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  Speaker 1: the heart of most of our current turmoil in American
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  Speaker 1: culture and around the world.
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  Speaker 3: We are just.
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  Speaker 1: I think we underestimate just how often we should expect
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  Speaker 1: to be punished for doing the right thing.
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  Speaker 3: I think, I don't know what it is, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I struggle with this, like, oh, if I do the
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  Speaker 1: right thing, I'll be rewarded for it. And certainly there's
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  Speaker 1: biblical passages that talk about that, but there's also plenty
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  Speaker 1: of biblical evidence that says when you do the right thing,
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  Speaker 1: no good deed goes unpunished. I mean, you've got Jeremiah saying,
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  Speaker 1: lamenting this, doing the right thing and being attacked mercilessly
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  Speaker 1: by his own people. And then, of course, we see
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  Speaker 1: this culminating Jesus, who is really the only person in
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  Speaker 1: history that has ever done everything right.
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  Speaker 3: And what did it get him?
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  Speaker 1: It got him abandonment and betrayal and so much worse.
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  Speaker 1: He suffered on the cross, bearing the weight of the
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  Speaker 1: world's sins. He was laid in a tomb, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just mocked. And I think we forget that part and
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  Speaker 1: we want to jump to the resurrection, right? So Jesus is,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, rewarded for his good behavior, but it's in
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  Speaker 1: God's time and it's in God's way and it's not
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  Speaker 1: apart from the cross. And so I think we need
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  Speaker 1: to I think that's ultimately what keeps people from doing good,
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  Speaker 1: is we don't really want to do good if it
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  Speaker 1: means we're going to have to suffer for it. We
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  Speaker 1: want to do good if it gets us something in
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  Speaker 1: the present. And this is the reason why we need Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: This is why Jesus went after.
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  Speaker 1: The self-righteous, the Pharisees, the religious leaders, the people that
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  Speaker 1: put him on the cross, because they were fine doing
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  Speaker 1: good as long as it got them something, but when
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  Speaker 1: it came down to it, when everything was on the line,
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  Speaker 1: they would much rather look good than be good. And
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  Speaker 1: so our battle is really, it's not against flesh and blood.
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  Speaker 3: As the Bible tells us, right? It's a spiritual battle.
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  Speaker 1: It's the lies of Satan that what we have in
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  Speaker 1: this life is far more important than the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: What we have in this life and protecting our life
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  Speaker 1: and protecting the blessings we have is far more important
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  Speaker 1: than standing up for truth. But we're neglecting what Jesus
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  Speaker 1: himself has.
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  Speaker 3: Told us, right?
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  Speaker 1: You shall know the truth and the truth. shall set
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  Speaker 1: you free. Not keeping everything you have, not avoiding painful,
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  Speaker 1: difficult circumstances as a result of following Jesus. No, the
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  Speaker 1: truth will set you free. So there are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things I was thinking as you were going through
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  Speaker 1: your monologues. One story that came to mind was the story.
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  Speaker 3: Of John Adams.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how familiar you are with John Adams,
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  Speaker 1: our U.S.
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  Speaker 3: Second president.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, very.
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  Speaker 3: The Boston Massacre. Okay, good, good.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe this will be right up your alley. John
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  Speaker 1: Adams in 1770, there was a Boston Massacre. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the things I found fascinating about this, there was
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  Speaker 1: an HBO miniseries about the life of John Adams probably
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  Speaker 1: about 20, 25 years ago. I think you can still
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  Speaker 1: find it out there. But one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: just really impressed me about John Adams and what I
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  Speaker 1: think is really the secret to what made America successful,
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  Speaker 1: but also what is lacking in the moment. And it
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  Speaker 1: goes right to what you're talking about. OK, John Adams,
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  Speaker 1: this Boston massacre, colonists and redcoats getting into this scuffle,
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of colonists dying, getting shot at by these.
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  Speaker 1: this mob around them, right? And no one wanted to
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  Speaker 1: defend them. No one. No one wanted to take the
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  Speaker 1: case to give them a fair trial. And finally, John
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  Speaker 1: Adams stepped up, and he was willing to do it,
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  Speaker 1: even though he did not really want to help that team, right?
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  Speaker 1: He didn't want to help the Redcoats. He didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to give them a win. And yet what he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get past was the truth, the need for the truth.
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  Speaker 1: There's a quote I pulled up. Facts are stubborn things,
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  Speaker 1: and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the
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  Speaker 1: dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of
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  Speaker 1: facts and evidence. That's credited to John Adams in his
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  Speaker 1: closing arguments on December 4, 1770. So I think if
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  Speaker 1: we were... more willing to call out the things that
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  Speaker 1: we may be most reluctant to, rather than the things
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  Speaker 1: we find great joy in pointing out. I think John
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  Speaker 1: Adams gives us this example of being absolutely, just relentlessly
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  Speaker 1: in pursuit of truth wherever it leads us. And sometimes
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  Speaker 1: the thing that we are most unwilling to do is
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  Speaker 1: to point the lens of truth at ourselves. There's a
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  Speaker 1: popular Bible verse that gets thrown around a lot when
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  Speaker 1: people are talking about revival and all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: If my people who are called by my name humble
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  Speaker 1: themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from
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  Speaker 1: their wicked ways, Then I will hear from heaven.
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  Speaker 3: I will forgive their sin and heal their land.
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  Speaker 1: That's 2 Chronicles 7.14. And I think, you know, people
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  Speaker 1: read that in a way that I don't think really gets.
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  Speaker 3: At the point of the passage.
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  Speaker 1: The point of the passage is, if my people who
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  Speaker 1: are called by my name humble themselves and pray and
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  Speaker 1: seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then
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  Speaker 1: I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin
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  Speaker 1: and heal their land. I think you kind of were
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  Speaker 1: close to this. I think you may have said something
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  Speaker 1: along those lines about things kind of inside the church.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have to hold it right there. Folks,
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  Speaker 2: our guest today on the Right Over It's American Experience
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  Speaker 2: is Emil Grettersen. And he's with us today. And we'll
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  Speaker 2: be right back on the Ron Edwards American Experience, Faith
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  Speaker 2: Day Edition, after these important messages.
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  Speaker 5: Hello out there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't agree with what specifically?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, with the fact that there are some within the
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  Speaker 2: What say you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think we are definitely plagued by exactly
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  Speaker 1: can we see the speck in our neighbor's eye kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing, that doesn't mean you don't ever call out
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  Speaker 1: things that are wrong. The trouble I think the church
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that was you or.
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  Speaker 1: but I think that is what we're lacking. We're not
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  Speaker 1: We're much more interested in calling out the things that
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  Speaker 1: much stuff I've been in a church in some way, shape,
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  Speaker 1: or form close to 20 years now.
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  Speaker 3: And, man, there is just.
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  Speaker 1: So much just inside the church and amongst Christians. And
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  Speaker 1: I think our inability or our unwillingness to address that
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  Speaker 1: the world, right? You know, for example, abortion, right? That's
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  Speaker 1: I looked at this a few years ago now. I
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  Speaker 1: would not be surprised if they are the same. But
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  Speaker 3: And to me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we want to fight this battle, but really
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  Speaker 1: the battle is in our congregation. The battle is there.
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  Speaker 1: That's the first line, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, why is that? Why are they doing that?
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  Speaker 1: That's happening in our churches too. And we have to
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this
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  Speaker 3: Well, we are a.
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  Speaker 1: We've got our church, of course. We've got a child
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  Speaker 1: development center, which is birth to five. So, Parents that
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  Speaker 1: want a good, solid place where kids are going to
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  Speaker 1: about 100 kids in there. And then we have what
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  Speaker 1: big gym and several classrooms and all kinds of fun
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  Speaker 1: stuff going on there. We have before and after care.
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  Speaker 1: Our mission statement is loving generously. We connect all to Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. I think we have softened the, the impact
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  Speaker 1: we are without sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth
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  Speaker 1: is not in us. But that word is not if, like, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe one time I may sin. It No, whenever we
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  Speaker 1: say we are without sin, we deceive ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: And the truth is not in us.
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  Speaker 1: And so the law has a function for us as Christians,
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  Speaker 1: and we dare not soften it. I am actually, you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't know this from the name of our church, but
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  Speaker 1: I was trained at a Lutheran seminary, and our church
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  Speaker 1: is affiliated with the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, And I
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  Speaker 1: just want to point out one thing. I listened to
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  Speaker 1: one of your programs, and you were knocking the Lutherans
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  Speaker 1: for not believing in the divinity of Jesus. And I
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  Speaker 1: just want to say, I'm a Lutheran, and I know
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  Speaker 1: about a million at least that believe in the divinity
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  Speaker 1: of Jesus. So, you know, go Lutherans. But one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that Luther.
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  Speaker 2: Can I jump in here real quick? The Lutherans I'm
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  Speaker 2: talking about are very liberal.
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  Speaker 1: I know who you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I've been to their church. I've seen them in action.
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  Speaker 2: I've read about them and they're very liberal and they
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  Speaker 2: call themselves Lutherans and they're there.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I just wanted to point out that we're
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  Speaker 1: not all off.
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  Speaker 3: The deep end.
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  Speaker 1: We do believe that Jesus was divine and that he
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  Speaker 1: rose again, literally rose from the dead. It's not just
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  Speaker 1: a memorial or a symbolic or a metaphorical thing. He
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  Speaker 1: is alive currently in a glorified body and he's coming again. So,
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  Speaker 1: Just want to throw that in there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, great. One of the other things that Lutherans bring, though,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: that Lutheran teaching is the law has these three functions
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  Speaker 1: as a curb, a mirror, and a guide. And the
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  Speaker 1: curb is basically, hey, people are pretty terrible. and if
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  Speaker 1: we don't have some laws, the whole world is going
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  Speaker 1: to descend into chaos, right? Order is better than anarchy,
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  Speaker 1: just generally, right? And so that's one purpose of the law,
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  Speaker 1: that if you're fearful that you'll be punished if you
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  Speaker 1: break any of these laws, then you're less likely to
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  Speaker 1: do it. It doesn't mean you won't. It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: you won't break it for the right reason either, but
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  Speaker 1: at least you won't and it protects people. The second
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  Speaker 1: one is the mirror, and that just is used to
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  Speaker 1: show us that we are who Paul is talking about
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  Speaker 1: in Romans 3. We are not righteous in and of ourselves. None,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all sin and fall short of the glory
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  Speaker 1: of God, right? So that shows us our need and
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  Speaker 1: pushes us To Jesus, where we hear the good news that, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're a sinner. Jesus died for you, and now he
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  Speaker 1: calls you to follow him. And that's where the guide
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  Speaker 1: part comes in. And I think a lot of churches
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  Speaker 1: struggle with that part where, okay, well, you're forgiven in Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: And they just kind of leave it there like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm forgiven, so I don't really have to try anything.
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  Speaker 1: But follow Jesus. I don't have to actually do what
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  Speaker 1: he says to do. And no one's going to do
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  Speaker 1: it perfectly. But it should be like, you know, when
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you turn 25 and you go, oh, my gosh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the adults in my life, my parents, my grandparents,
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  Speaker 1: they were all right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're going to have to hold it right here.
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  Speaker 2: Our guest today is Emil Grettersen. And Pastor Gretterson, we
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  Speaker 2: have a tradition here on the Fifth Day Edition of
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: the Rhyme of Rich American Experience, and we ask our
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  Speaker 2: guests to offer a prayer. We have about, what is it,
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  Speaker 2: two minutes, Doug? If you would be so inclined to
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  Speaker 2: offer a prayer for our nation, or as God leads you,
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  Speaker 2: if you're willing to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Let's pray.
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  Speaker 1: Heavenly Father, we thank you so much for just your
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: incredible blessings. We thank you for the gift of your son, Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: who shows us your incredible love for us, even though
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  Speaker 1: we were sinners. While we were still sinners, you demonstrated
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  Speaker 1: your love for us in this, that Christ died for us,
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  Speaker 1: the ungodly. And in so doing, transformed us into something new,
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  Speaker 1: a new creation, Lord. And We just ask that you
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: would be with each and every one of us, that
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  Speaker 1: you would be with our leaders in America, in each
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  Speaker 1: of the 50 states and around the world, Lord, that
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  Speaker 1: you would be with all leaders, that you would work
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  Speaker 1: mightily in and through them for truth and for all
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  Speaker 1: the blessings that you want to bestow on us, that
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  Speaker 1: you would work to bring things together to be in
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  Speaker 1: accord with your will, that we might be blessed living
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  Speaker 1: in accord with your will, that the people in darkness
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  Speaker 1: might be led to the light that comes in and
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  Speaker 1: through the light of the world, your Son, our Savior,
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, and that you might be glorified.
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  Speaker 3: In all that we do.
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  Speaker 1: And that all would rejoice in the wonderful blessings that
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: you have in store, not just in this life, but
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: in the life to come, where all of these terrible
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: things that we have to talk about and discuss and address,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: that one day all of those struggles will be gone,
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  Speaker 1: the weight will be lifted, and we will rejoice in
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  Speaker 1: your presence forever. Give us a foretaste of that, Lord, today.
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  Speaker 3: And every day, use us, lead us, guide us for.
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  Speaker 1: Your purposes and your glory. In the mighty name of
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  Speaker 1: our risen Lord Jesus Christ, we pray.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. Amen. Thank you so much. And we do thank
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  Speaker 2: you for joining us today. Our guest, special guest today,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Emil Grettersen. And I pray that I pronounce your name correctly,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: that I didn't beat it up too badly.
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  Speaker 11: But.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: We do thank you again for being with us, and
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: we do invite you to come back because you have
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of wisdom, and I can tell. And so
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: it's been a great time as far as I'm concerned,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: and I know my audience really appreciates your wisdom. And again,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: now that I see that my time is up, folks,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I thank you for joining us here on today's edition
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: of the Ron Edwards American Experience. That's all, folks.
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  Speaker 9: Tags that stage right.
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  Speaker 2: And as I always say at this time, thanking you
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  Speaker 2: again now that I see that my time is up.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. And I urge
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  Speaker 2: you all to please pray for your nation, pray for
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  Speaker 2: your family, your friends, and even your enemies that they
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  Speaker 2: get it right before it's too late. Yep, because we
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: all face judgment eventually. Don't forget to treat others the
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: same way you want to be treated. Until next time,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I'm Ron Edwards. Be blessed. And this is the Ron
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Edwards American Experience. Thanks, Doug, for all you do as well.
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  Speaker 16: There's just one problem with Swan Quarter, North Carolina.
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: It was a lowland town. Naturally, the choicest real estate
• 55:12
  Speaker 10: was on the highest ground. In the event of heavy rain,
• 55:15
  Speaker 10: the closer you were to sea level, the harder you
• 55:18
  Speaker 10: got hit. A little more than 100 years ago, the
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: Methodists of Swan Quarter had no church. The only lot
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: available on which to build one was a plot of
• 55:26
  Speaker 10: low-lying property on Oyster Creek Road. It was far from
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: an ideal location.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: But they.
• 55:34
  Speaker 10: had acquired the land and construction began. The church was
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: to be white frame, small but sturdy, propped up on
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: brick pilings. In 1876, the building was completed, and on Sunday,
• 55:49
  Speaker 10: September 16, a joyous dedication ceremony was celebrated. Now, that
• 55:56
  Speaker 10: was Sunday, September 16. Three days later, this was on
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  Speaker 10: a Wednesday, A terrible storm lashed Swan Quarter. All day
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: the wind howled and the rain came down, and it
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: was a gray wall of water. By nightfall, devastation. Much
• 56:17
  Speaker 10: of the town was flooded. Many roofs were ripped from
• 56:20
  Speaker 10: homes by cyclonic turbulence. The storm raged on all through
• 56:23
  Speaker 10: the night and into the bleak morning. By Thursday afternoon,
• 56:27
  Speaker 10: the wind subsided. The rain had all but stopped. For
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: the first time, In more than a day, there was
• 56:33
  Speaker 10: an almost eerie calm, and one by one the citizens
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: of Swan Quarter threw back the shutters and peered out
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: from what was left of their homes, and most saw
• 56:45
  Speaker 10: only a desolate waterscape, a community ravaged by nature, but
• 56:49
  Speaker 10: those within sight of Oyster Creek Road beheld the most
• 56:53
  Speaker 10: incredible sight that they had ever seen, the church, the
• 56:57
  Speaker 10: Swan Quarter Methodist Church. The whole building, intact, was floating
• 57:03
  Speaker 10: down the street. I mean, the floodwaters had gently lifted
• 57:07
  Speaker 10: the entire structure from its brick pilings on which it
• 57:10
  Speaker 10: had rested and had sent it off slowly, silently, down
• 57:15
  Speaker 10: Oyster Creek Road. Well, within minutes, several concerned townspeople were
• 57:23
  Speaker 10: sloshing about in the street, waist-deep, fighting the rushing current,
• 57:27
  Speaker 10: trying desperately to reach the still moving church so that
• 57:31
  Speaker 10: they could more it with lengths of rope. And the
• 57:34
  Speaker 10: ropes were fastened, but the effort was in vain. There
• 57:38
  Speaker 10: was no stable structure secure enough to restrain the floating chapel.
• 57:44
  Speaker 10: And as the building passed by, more attention was attracted,
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: so more aid was enlisted, but again, to no avail,
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: the church moved on. By now, The building had made
• 57:56
  Speaker 10: it to the center of town. It's still on Oyster
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: Creek Road. Then as dozens of amazed and helpless people watched,
• 58:06
  Speaker 10: the Swan Quarter Methodist Church, it's still floating, made a sharp,
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  Speaker 10: inexplicable right turn, continued down that road as though the
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  Speaker 10: chapel were alive, as though it had a mind of
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  Speaker 10: its own. For two more blocks, the townspeople fought the
• 58:22
  Speaker 10: ropes to hold it back, but unsuccessfully, and then in
• 58:26
  Speaker 10: the same decisive manner with which it had moved in
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  Speaker 10: the first place, the church veered off the road and
• 58:31
  Speaker 10: headed for the center of a vacant lot, and there
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: it stopped. While the floodwaters receded, the church remained, and
• 58:43
  Speaker 10: it is there to this day. Well, over a hundred
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: Septembers have passed since the little white-framed Methodist church removed
• 58:53
  Speaker 10: itself to the most desirable property in Swan Quarter. And
• 59:00
  Speaker 10: in the process of making up your own mind as
• 59:03
  Speaker 10: to why and how what happened happened, you need to
• 59:07
  Speaker 10: know this much more. The choice highland lot where the
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  Speaker 10: chapel finally settled, that had been the first choice of
• 59:15
  Speaker 10: the town Methodists. They had wanted that as the site
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  Speaker 10: for their church. But the shrewd, prosperous landowner whose property
• 59:25
  Speaker 10: it was.
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  Speaker 2: Had turned them down. And yet the next morning.
• 59:31
  Speaker 10: After the flood, after discovering the church in the middle
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  Speaker 10: of his lot, that same landowner went to the Methodist
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  Speaker 10: minister and with trembling hands presented him with the deed.
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  Speaker 2: And now you know the rest of the story.