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What's New in New York City, Plus a Look at the Top Trends in Camping Vacations · The Frommer's Travel Show

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  Foreign.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  Fromer
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  Travel
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  Show.
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  I'm
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  your
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  host
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  Pauline
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  Fromer
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  and
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  I'm
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  also
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  the
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  author
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  of
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  the
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  just
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  released
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  Fromer's
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  New
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  York
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  City
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  2026,
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  which
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  is
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  a
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  labor
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  of
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  love.
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  It's
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  my
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  latest
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  guidebook
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  to
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  the
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  city.
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  And
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  to
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  help
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  me
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  talk
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  about
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  what
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  a
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  New
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  York
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  City
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  vacation
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  currently
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  holds,
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  what
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  was
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  changed
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  in
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  the
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  book,
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  what's
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  been
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  changed
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  since
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  then,
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  I
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  have
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  Jason
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  Cochran
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  on
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  the
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  line,
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  a
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  former
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  maybe
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  always
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  New
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  Yorker.
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  He
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  lived
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  in
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  New
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  York
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  City
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  for
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  many
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  years.
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  He's
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  the
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  editor
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  in
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  Chief
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  of
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  fromers.com
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  hey
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  Jason,
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  always
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  great
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  to
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  talk
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  with
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  you.
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  Hi
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  Pauline.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  lived
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  there
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  for
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  about
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  25
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  years.
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  I
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  think
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  if
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  you
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  were
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  there
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  before
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  9
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  11,
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  during
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  911
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  and
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  after
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  911
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  you
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  are
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  always
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  a
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  New
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  Yorker.
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  Yes.
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  Oh
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  absolutely.
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  And
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  one
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  could
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  say
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  the
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  same
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  about
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  the
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  pandemic,
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  quite
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  honestly.
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  Cause
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  that
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  was
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  a
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  crazy
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  time
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  New
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  York.
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  So
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  my
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  latest
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  book
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  came
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  out
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  this
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  fall
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  and
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  we
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  should
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  have
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  talked
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  about
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  it
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  then.
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  I'm
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  now
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  researching
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  the
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  next
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  book
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  and
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  the
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  pace
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  of
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  change
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  in
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  the
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  city.
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  Boy,
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  it's
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  just
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  a
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  whirlwind
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  right
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  now
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  in
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  good
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  ways
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  and
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  bad
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  good
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  ways.
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  There
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  are
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  some
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  really
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  interesting
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  new
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  attractions
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  opening
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  and
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  old
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  attractions
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  fully
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  redoing
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  what
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  they
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  have
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  done
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  so
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  well
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  for
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  so
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  many
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  years.
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  In
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  the
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  former
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  category,
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  we
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  are
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  getting
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  a
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  new
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  observation
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  deck
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  that
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  will
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  be
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  seven
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  in
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  the
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  city,
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  but
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  it's
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  called
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  one
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  Times
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  Square
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  and
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  I
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  think
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  the
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  name
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  gives
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  it
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  away.
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  It's
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  in
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  the
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  building
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  where
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  the
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  ball
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  comes
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  down.
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  On
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  New
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  Year's.
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  Yeah,
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  on
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  New
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  Year's
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  Eve.
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  And
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  so
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  it's
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  in
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  the
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  heart
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  of
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  Times
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  Square.
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  I
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  thought
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  when
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  I
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  heard
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  about
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  this,
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  oh
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  my
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  God,
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  do
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  we
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  need
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  another
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  observation
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  deck?
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  I
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  mean,
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  but
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  I
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  don't
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  know.
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  Being
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  in
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  the
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  middle
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  of
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  Times
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  Square
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  at
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  night,
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  not
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  during
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  the
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  day.
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  you
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  should
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  go
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  to
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  the
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  top
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  of
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  this
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  observation
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  deck
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  during
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  the
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  day.
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  I
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  think
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  that's
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  a
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  waste
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  of
• 2:27
  money.
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  But
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  at
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  night,
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  surrounded
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  by
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  all
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  the
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  neon
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  lights,
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  I
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  think
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  it's
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  pretty
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  damn
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  cool.
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  Yeah,
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  there
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  isn't
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  really
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  an
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  observation
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  deck
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  for
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  Times
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  Square
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  right
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  now.
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  There's
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  lots
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  of
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  bars
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  that
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  you
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  can
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  go
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  to
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  and
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  right
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  in
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  hotels.
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  But
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  this
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  is
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  something
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  Times
• 2:42
  Square
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  has
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  sort
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  of
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  needed.
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  It
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  is
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  Times
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  Square
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  by
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  itself.
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  Even
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  if
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  you
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  don't
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  know
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  what
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  you're
• 2:47
  going
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  to
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  do
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  when
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  you're
• 2:47
  in
• 2:47
  Times
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  Square
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  is
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  a
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  world
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  class
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  tourist
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  site.
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  So
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  now
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  you
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  have
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  an
• 2:52
  observation
• 2:52
  deck
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  that's
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  not
• 2:53
  going
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  to
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  give
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  you
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  a
• 2:53
  view
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  of
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  the
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  whole
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  city,
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  but
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  it'll
• 2:54
  give
• 2:54
  you
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  a
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  Great
• 2:55
  view
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  of
• 2:55
  Times
• 2:55
  Square,
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  which
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  is
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  like
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  a
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  city
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  unto
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  itself.
• 2:57
  Yeah.
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  And
• 2:58
  it's
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  pretty
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  exciting.
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  I
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  got
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  to
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  take
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  a
• 3:00
  hardhat
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  tour
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  because
• 3:02
  it'll
• 3:02
  be
• 3:02
  opening
• 3:02
  in
• 3:02
  a
• 3:03
  couple
• 3:03
  of
• 3:03
  weeks.
• 3:03
  So
• 3:03
  I
• 3:04
  didn't
• 3:04
  see
• 3:04
  it
• 3:04
  in
• 3:04
  its
• 3:05
  fully
• 3:05
  open
• 3:06
  state,
• 3:06
  but
• 3:07
  what
• 3:07
  I
• 3:07
  saw
• 3:08
  was
• 3:08
  kind
• 3:08
  of
• 3:09
  weird
• 3:09
  and
• 3:09
  wonderful.
• 3:10
  Weird
• 3:10
  and
• 3:10
  wonderful
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  in
• 3:11
  one
• 3:11
  part
• 3:11
  I
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  think
• 3:12
  is
• 3:12
  really
• 3:12
  gaudy
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  and
• 3:13
  I
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  think
• 3:14
  will
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  close.
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  But
• 3:16
  the
• 3:16
  main
• 3:17
  deck,
• 3:18
  where
• 3:18
  you
• 3:18
  get
• 3:18
  a
• 3:18
  365
• 3:20
  degree
• 3:20
  view
• 3:21
  of
• 3:21
  42nd
• 3:22
  Street.
• 3:22
  So
• 3:23
  you
• 3:23
  see
• 3:23
  Times
• 3:23
  Square
• 3:24
  in
• 3:24
  front
• 3:24
  of
• 3:24
  you,
• 3:24
  you
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  see
• 3:25
  both
• 3:25
  sides
• 3:26
  of
• 3:26
  42nd
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  street
• 3:27
  and
• 3:27
  then
• 3:27
  you
• 3:27
  can
• 3:28
  see
• 3:28
  downtown.
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  Those
• 3:29
  views
• 3:29
  are
• 3:30
  pretty
• 3:30
  damn
• 3:30
  thrilling.
• 3:31
  You
• 3:31
  also,
• 3:32
  if
• 3:32
  you
• 3:33
  pay
• 3:33
  more
• 3:34
  and
• 3:34
  the
• 3:34
  amount
• 3:34
  hasn't
• 3:35
  been
• 3:35
  set,
• 3:36
  you
• 3:36
  can
• 3:36
  also
• 3:36
  have
• 3:37
  what
• 3:37
  they're
• 3:37
  calling
• 3:38
  the
• 3:39
  ball
• 3:39
  experience,
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  which
• 3:41
  sounds
• 3:42
  erotic
• 3:43
  to
• 3:43
  me.
• 3:43
  But
• 3:44
  that's
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  old
• 3:44
  42nd
• 3:45
  street
• 3:45
  on
• 3:45
  the
• 3:45
  new
• 3:45
  42nd
• 3:46
  street
• 3:46
  though,
• 3:47
  so
• 3:47
  that.
• 3:48
  Means
• 3:48
  you
• 3:49
  get
• 3:49
  to
• 3:49
  have
• 3:49
  a
• 3:50
  close
• 3:50
  up
• 3:50
  look
• 3:51
  at
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  ball.
• 3:52
  And
• 3:52
  I
• 3:53
  did.
• 3:53
  And
• 3:53
  it's,
• 3:53
  you
• 3:54
  know,
• 3:54
  beautiful,
• 3:54
  big
• 3:55
  and
• 3:55
  glowing
• 3:56
  and
• 3:56
  it's
• 3:56
  covered
• 3:57
  with
• 3:58
  Swarovski.
• 4:00
  How
• 4:00
  do
• 4:00
  you
• 4:00
  pronounce
• 4:00
  that?
• 4:01
  Swarovski.
• 4:01
  You
• 4:01
  got
• 4:01
  that
• 4:02
  right
• 4:02
  there.
• 4:02
  Yeah,
• 4:02
  that's
• 4:03
  Swarovski.
• 4:03
  Swarovski
• 4:04
  crystals.
• 4:06
  And
• 4:07
  interestingly,
• 4:08
  there's
• 4:09
  something
• 4:09
  like,
• 4:09
  I
• 4:09
  think
• 4:09
  there's
• 4:10
  5,000
• 4:11
  plus
• 4:11
  of
• 4:12
  them.
• 4:12
  They're
• 4:13
  going
• 4:13
  to
• 4:13
  sell
• 4:14
  those
• 4:14
  crystals
• 4:15
  over
• 4:15
  the
• 4:15
  course
• 4:16
  of
• 4:16
  a
• 4:16
  year.
• 4:17
  So
• 4:17
  you
• 4:17
  can
• 4:17
  buy
• 4:18
  a
• 4:18
  Swarovski
• 4:19
  crystal
• 4:20
  right
• 4:20
  off
• 4:20
  the
• 4:20
  ball
• 4:21
  to
• 4:21
  take
• 4:21
  home.
• 4:22
  And
• 4:22
  then
• 4:22
  what
• 4:22
  you
• 4:23
  do
• 4:23
  is
• 4:23
  you
• 4:24
  make
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  wish
• 4:24
  for
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  coming
• 4:25
  year
• 4:26
  that
• 4:26
  is
• 4:26
  inscribed
• 4:27
  in
• 4:28
  a
• 4:28
  crystal
• 4:28
  that's
• 4:29
  then
• 4:29
  put
• 4:29
  back
• 4:30
  on
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  ball.
• 4:31
  But
• 4:31
  not
• 4:31
  only
• 4:32
  is
• 4:32
  it
• 4:33
  inscribed,
• 4:34
  at
• 4:34
  midnight
• 4:35
  on
• 4:35
  New
• 4:36
  Year's
• 4:36
  Eve,
• 4:37
  your
• 4:37
  wish
• 4:38
  is
• 4:38
  going
• 4:38
  to
• 4:39
  go
• 4:39
  out
• 4:39
  in
• 4:39
  Morse
• 4:40
  code.
• 4:44
  There's
• 4:44
  a
• 4:44
  team
• 4:44
  of
• 4:45
  people
• 4:45
  at
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  desk
• 4:45
  somewhere
• 4:46
  thinking
• 4:46
  of
• 4:46
  ideas.
• 4:47
  Yeah.
• 4:48
  So
• 4:48
  either
• 4:49
  that's
• 4:49
  going
• 4:49
  to
• 4:50
  be
• 4:50
  really
• 4:50
  great
• 4:50
  or
• 4:51
  just
• 4:51
  really
• 4:52
  stupid.
• 4:52
  We'll
• 4:52
  see.
• 4:53
  It'll
• 4:53
  be
• 4:53
  interesting
• 4:54
  to
• 4:54
  see
• 4:54
  if
• 4:54
  5,000
• 4:55
  crystals
• 4:55
  are
• 4:56
  enough.
• 4:56
  Are
• 4:56
  they
• 4:56
  going
• 4:56
  to
• 4:57
  sell
• 4:57
  out
• 4:57
  before.
• 4:58
  I'm
• 4:58
  still.
• 4:59
  I
• 4:59
  think
• 4:59
  just
• 4:59
  seeing
• 5:00
  Times
• 5:00
  Square
• 5:00
  is
• 5:01
  quite
• 5:01
  enough
• 5:01
  for
• 5:01
  your
• 5:01
  money
• 5:02
  because
• 5:02
  it's
• 5:02
  such
• 5:02
  a
• 5:02
  fascinating
• 5:03
  destination.
• 5:04
  That's
• 5:06
  attractions
• 5:06
  number
• 5:07
  one
• 5:07
  and
• 5:07
  two
• 5:07
  at
• 5:08
  one
• 5:08
  Times
• 5:08
  Square.
• 5:09
  Attraction
• 5:09
  number
• 5:10
  three
• 5:10
  is
• 5:10
  called
• 5:11
  Eye
• 5:11
  Candy
• 5:12
  New
• 5:12
  York
• 5:12
  City.
• 5:13
  And
• 5:13
  it's
• 5:13
  a
• 5:14
  four
• 5:15
  story
• 5:16
  attraction.
• 5:17
  You
• 5:18
  start
• 5:18
  at
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  top,
• 5:19
  you're
• 5:19
  given
• 5:20
  a
• 5:20
  bucket
• 5:21
  that
• 5:21
  can
• 5:21
  hold
• 5:22
  two
• 5:22
  pounds
• 5:23
  of
• 5:23
  candy.
• 5:24
  And
• 5:24
  you
• 5:24
  go
• 5:25
  through
• 5:25
  this
• 5:26
  cartoony,
• 5:27
  kind
• 5:27
  of
• 5:27
  garish
• 5:28
  looking
• 5:28
  recreation
• 5:29
  of
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  iconic
• 5:31
  sites
• 5:31
  of
• 5:31
  New
• 5:32
  York
• 5:32
  City.
• 5:33
  And
• 5:33
  in
• 5:33
  front
• 5:34
  of
• 5:34
  each
• 5:34
  iconic
• 5:35
  site
• 5:35
  is
• 5:36
  some
• 5:36
  kind
• 5:36
  of
• 5:37
  candy
• 5:38
  that
• 5:38
  has
• 5:38
  something
• 5:38
  to
• 5:38
  do
• 5:39
  with
• 5:39
  what
• 5:39
  you're
• 5:40
  looking
• 5:40
  at.
• 5:41
  Sometimes
• 5:42
  it's
• 5:42
  very
• 5:42
  vaguely
• 5:43
  to
• 5:43
  do
• 5:43
  and
• 5:44
  you're
• 5:44
  able
• 5:44
  to
• 5:44
  kind
• 5:45
  of
• 5:45
  trick
• 5:45
  or
• 5:45
  treat.
• 5:46
  You
• 5:46
  go
• 5:46
  up
• 5:46
  and
• 5:47
  you
• 5:47
  grab
• 5:48
  handfuls
• 5:49
  of
• 5:49
  candy
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  put
• 5:50
  it
• 5:50
  into
• 5:51
  this
• 5:51
  jar
• 5:52
  until
• 5:52
  all
• 5:53
  two
• 5:53
  pounds
• 5:53
  of
• 5:53
  this
• 5:54
  jar
• 5:54
  is
• 5:54
  filled
• 5:55
  up.
• 5:55
  So
• 5:55
  this
• 5:56
  is
• 5:56
  either
• 5:56
  going
• 5:56
  to
• 5:57
  be
• 5:57
  very
• 5:58
  popular
• 5:58
  with
• 5:59
  families
• 6:00
  or
• 6:00
  a
• 6:00
  total
• 6:00
  flop,
• 6:01
  I
• 6:01
  think.
• 6:02
  Yeah.
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  would
• 6:02
  think
• 6:02
  it's
• 6:02
  either
• 6:03
  for
• 6:04
  children
• 6:04
  or
• 6:05
  I
• 6:05
  guess,
• 6:05
  hopped
• 6:05
  up
• 6:06
  teenagers
• 6:06
  or
• 6:06
  for
• 6:07
  Instagrammers.
• 6:07
  Is
• 6:07
  it
• 6:08
  going
• 6:08
  to
• 6:08
  be
• 6:08
  one
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  those
• 6:08
  really
• 6:08
  pretty
• 6:09
  things
• 6:09
  that
• 6:09
  you
• 6:09
  also
• 6:10
  want
• 6:10
  to
• 6:10
  take
• 6:10
  Instagram
• 6:10
  pictures
• 6:11
  of?
• 6:11
  People
• 6:12
  may
• 6:12
  think
• 6:12
  it's
• 6:12
  pretty.
• 6:13
  I
• 6:13
  thought
• 6:13
  it
• 6:13
  was
• 6:13
  pretty
• 6:14
  garish
• 6:14
  looking.
• 6:14
  I
• 6:15
  didn't
• 6:15
  love
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  look
• 6:15
  of
• 6:16
  it.
• 6:16
  But
• 6:16
  what
• 6:16
  part
• 6:17
  of
• 6:17
  town's
• 6:17
  it
• 6:17
  in?
• 6:18
  It's
• 6:18
  in
• 6:18
  one
• 6:18
  Times
• 6:19
  Square
• 6:19
  and.
• 6:19
  Oh,
• 6:20
  and
• 6:20
  down
• 6:20
  below
• 6:20
  the.
• 6:21
  The
• 6:21
  ball.
• 6:21
  Yeah.
• 6:22
  So
• 6:22
  these
• 6:22
  are
• 6:22
  all.
• 6:22
  And
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  other
• 6:23
  new
• 6:24
  attraction
• 6:24
  in
• 6:25
  One
• 6:25
  Times
• 6:25
  Square
• 6:26
  is
• 6:26
  called
• 6:26
  Onelavs.lavs.
• 6:29
  they've
• 6:30
  created
• 6:30
  an
• 6:30
  entire
• 6:31
  floor
• 6:31
  of
• 6:32
  bathroom
• 6:32
  stalls
• 6:33
  for
• 6:33
  men
• 6:33
  and
• 6:34
  women
• 6:34
  because.
• 6:34
  Because
• 6:34
  it's
• 6:35
  very
• 6:35
  hard
• 6:35
  to
• 6:35
  find
• 6:35
  a.
• 6:35
  Place
• 6:36
  that
• 6:36
  is
• 6:36
  actually
• 6:36
  pretty
• 6:36
  good.
• 6:37
  Yeah.
• 6:37
  Yeah.
• 6:37
  It's
• 6:37
  hard
• 6:38
  to
• 6:38
  find
• 6:38
  a
• 6:38
  place
• 6:38
  in
• 6:38
  New
• 6:39
  York
• 6:39
  in
• 6:39
  Times
• 6:39
  Square
• 6:40
  to
• 6:40
  go
• 6:40
  to
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  bathroom.
• 6:41
  So
• 6:41
  you
• 6:41
  can
• 6:41
  pay
• 6:41
  now
• 6:42
  $2
• 6:42
  to
• 6:43
  go
• 6:43
  to
• 6:43
  the
• 6:43
  bathroom.
• 6:43
  It's
• 6:44
  interesting
• 6:44
  because
• 6:44
  that
• 6:45
  building,
• 6:45
  years
• 6:45
  and
• 6:45
  years
• 6:46
  and
• 6:46
  years
• 6:46
  and
• 6:46
  years
• 6:46
  ago
• 6:46
  was
• 6:47
  the
• 6:47
  New
• 6:47
  York
• 6:47
  Times's
• 6:48
  headquarters.
• 6:49
  Yeah.
• 6:49
  By
• 6:49
  the
• 6:50
  turn
• 6:50
  of
• 6:50
  the
• 6:50
  previous
• 6:50
  century.
• 6:51
  It's
• 6:51
  been
• 6:51
  a
• 6:51
  very
• 6:51
  long
• 6:52
  time
• 6:52
  since
• 6:52
  it
• 6:52
  has
• 6:52
  been.
• 6:52
  There's
• 6:53
  maybe
• 6:53
  some.
• 6:54
  Some
• 6:54
  commentary
• 6:55
  one
• 6:55
  could
• 6:55
  make
• 6:56
  of
• 6:56
  what's
• 6:56
  happened
• 6:56
  to
• 6:56
  that
• 6:56
  building.
• 6:57
  Well,
• 6:57
  actually
• 6:58
  they
• 6:58
  do
• 6:59
  a
• 6:59
  history
• 7:00
  museum
• 7:00
  as
• 7:00
  well
• 7:01
  that
• 7:01
  you
• 7:01
  get
• 7:01
  to
• 7:02
  go
• 7:02
  through
• 7:02
  when
• 7:02
  you
• 7:03
  go
• 7:03
  see
• 7:03
  the
• 7:03
  view.
• 7:04
  So,
• 7:04
  you
• 7:04
  know,
• 7:05
  they
• 7:05
  do
• 7:05
  pay
• 7:06
  H
• 7:06
  to
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  New
• 7:07
  York
• 7:07
  Times.
• 7:08
  Time.
• 7:09
  No,
• 7:09
  I
• 7:09
  was
• 7:09
  laughing
• 7:09
  because,
• 7:09
  you
• 7:10
  know,
• 7:10
  some
• 7:10
  people
• 7:10
  still
• 7:10
  call
• 7:11
  it
• 7:11
  Times
• 7:12
  Square
• 7:12
  without
• 7:12
  the.
• 7:13
  Without
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  plural.
• 7:14
  It's
• 7:15
  Times
• 7:15
  Square
• 7:16
  because
• 7:16
  it
• 7:16
  was
• 7:16
  named
• 7:16
  for
• 7:16
  the
• 7:17
  New
• 7:17
  York
• 7:17
  Times.
• 7:18
  Just
• 7:18
  putting
• 7:18
  it
• 7:18
  out
• 7:19
  there
• 7:19
  so
• 7:19
  people
• 7:19
  could
• 7:19
  remember
• 7:20
  it
• 7:20
  if
• 7:20
  they'd
• 7:20
  ever
• 7:20
  had
• 7:20
  trouble
• 7:21
  remembering
• 7:21
  that.
• 7:22
  Right.
• 7:22
  Interesting.
• 7:23
  So
• 7:23
  that's
• 7:24
  attraction
• 7:24
  number
• 7:25
  one,
• 7:25
  the
• 7:26
  fully
• 7:26
  brand
• 7:27
  new
• 7:27
  one,
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  Studio
• 7:28
  Museum.
• 7:29
  After
• 7:30
  eight
• 7:30
  years
• 7:31
  of
• 7:32
  reconstruction,
• 7:33
  they
• 7:33
  built
• 7:33
  a
• 7:33
  beautiful
• 7:34
  new
• 7:34
  skyscraper
• 7:35
  has
• 7:35
  finally
• 7:36
  reopened.
• 7:37
  And
• 7:37
  it's
• 7:38
  pretty
• 7:38
  nice.
• 7:39
  The
• 7:39
  Studio
• 7:39
  Museum,
• 7:40
  for
• 7:40
  those
• 7:40
  who
• 7:40
  don't
• 7:40
  know
• 7:41
  it,
• 7:41
  is
• 7:41
  in
• 7:41
  Harlem.
• 7:42
  It
• 7:42
  was
• 7:42
  the
• 7:42
  very
• 7:43
  first
• 7:43
  museum
• 7:44
  dedicated
• 7:44
  to
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  art
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  people
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  color.
• 7:47
  Opened
• 7:48
  in
• 7:48
  the
• 7:48
  1960s
• 7:49
  at
• 7:49
  a
• 7:49
  time
• 7:49
  when
• 7:50
  galleries
• 7:51
  weren't
• 7:51
  buying
• 7:52
  artists
• 7:53
  art
• 7:53
  by
• 7:54
  artists
• 7:54
  of
• 7:54
  color,
• 7:55
  when
• 7:55
  museums
• 7:56
  didn't
• 7:56
  show
• 7:57
  work
• 7:57
  by
• 7:58
  most
• 7:58
  people
• 7:59
  of
• 7:59
  color.
• 7:59
  So,
• 8:00
  you
• 8:00
  know,
• 8:00
  it's
• 8:00
  a
• 8:00
  museum
• 8:01
  with
• 8:01
  an
• 8:01
  incredibly
• 8:02
  important
• 8:02
  heritage
• 8:03
  and
• 8:04
  goal.
• 8:05
  And
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  think
• 8:06
  it
• 8:06
  has
• 8:06
  the
• 8:06
  building
• 8:07
  it
• 8:07
  deserves.
• 8:08
  Finally,
• 8:08
  it's
• 8:08
  really,
• 8:09
  really
• 8:09
  a
• 8:09
  Beautiful
• 8:10
  new
• 8:10
  space.
• 8:11
  And
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  art
• 8:11
  is
• 8:12
  always
• 8:12
  spectacular.
• 8:13
  So
• 8:13
  that's
• 8:14
  reopened.
• 8:15
  Sotheby's
• 8:16
  has
• 8:17
  opened
• 8:17
  in
• 8:17
  the
• 8:18
  former
• 8:18
  Breuer
• 8:19
  Building,
• 8:19
  which
• 8:19
  was
• 8:20
  built
• 8:20
  for
• 8:20
  the
• 8:21
  Whitney
• 8:22
  Museum
• 8:22
  originally.
• 8:23
  It's
• 8:23
  on
• 8:23
  Madison
• 8:24
  Avenue,
• 8:24
  right
• 8:24
  off
• 8:25
  Museum
• 8:25
  Row.
• 8:26
  And
• 8:26
  you
• 8:26
  could
• 8:27
  always
• 8:27
  visit
• 8:28
  Sotheby's
• 8:29
  for
• 8:29
  free,
• 8:30
  but
• 8:30
  because
• 8:30
  it
• 8:31
  used
• 8:31
  to
• 8:31
  be
• 8:31
  on
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  Far
• 8:32
  east
• 8:32
  side
• 8:32
  of
• 8:33
  New
• 8:33
  York,
• 8:33
  far
• 8:34
  away
• 8:34
  from
• 8:34
  where
• 8:34
  any
• 8:35
  tourists
• 8:35
  ever
• 8:35
  went,
• 8:36
  nobody
• 8:37
  did.
• 8:37
  Now
• 8:38
  I
• 8:38
  think
• 8:38
  they
• 8:38
  will.
• 8:39
  And
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  gotta
• 8:40
  say,
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  don't
• 8:41
  know
• 8:41
  if
• 8:41
  this
• 8:42
  says
• 8:42
  something
• 8:42
  ugly
• 8:43
  about
• 8:43
  my
• 8:43
  soul,
• 8:44
  but
• 8:45
  seeing
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  art
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  some
• 8:47
  of
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  art
• 8:48
  they
• 8:48
  have
• 8:48
  for
• 8:48
  auction
• 8:49
  is
• 8:49
  extraordinary.
• 8:50
  But
• 8:50
  seeing
• 8:50
  it
• 8:51
  and
• 8:51
  knowing
• 8:52
  how
• 8:52
  much
• 8:52
  it
• 8:52
  kind
• 8:53
  of
• 8:53
  may
• 8:53
  cost,
• 8:54
  it
• 8:55
  all
• 8:55
  depends
• 8:55
  on
• 8:56
  what
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  auction
• 8:56
  gets
• 8:57
  up
• 8:57
  to.
• 8:57
  But
• 8:58
  they
• 8:58
  give
• 8:58
  a
• 8:58
  price
• 8:59
  range
• 8:59
  right
• 8:59
  in
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  label
• 9:00
  next
• 9:01
  to
• 9:01
  the
• 9:02
  art.
• 9:03
  It's
• 9:04
  kind
• 9:04
  of
• 9:04
  interesting.
• 9:05
  It
• 9:05
  makes
• 9:05
  art
• 9:06
  viewing.
• 9:06
  It
• 9:06
  gives
• 9:07
  it
• 9:07
  another
• 9:07
  dimension
• 9:08
  in
• 9:08
  an
• 9:09
  ugly,
• 9:09
  capitalist
• 9:10
  way,
• 9:10
  I
• 9:10
  guess.
• 9:11
  So
• 9:12
  you
• 9:12
  can
• 9:12
  have
• 9:12
  some
• 9:12
  of
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  greatest
• 9:13
  artworks
• 9:13
  in
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  world
• 9:14
  that
• 9:14
  aren't
• 9:14
  in
• 9:14
  museums
• 9:15
  are
• 9:15
  going
• 9:15
  to
• 9:15
  be
• 9:16
  appearing
• 9:16
  for
• 9:16
  the
• 9:16
  short
• 9:17
  term
• 9:17
  at
• 9:17
  Sotheby's
• 9:18
  before
• 9:18
  they're
• 9:18
  sold.
• 9:19
  So
• 9:19
  you'll
• 9:19
  never
• 9:19
  know
• 9:19
  what
• 9:20
  you're
• 9:20
  going
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  get,
• 9:20
  too,
• 9:20
  which
• 9:20
  also
• 9:21
  is
• 9:21
  interesting.
• 9:21
  Each
• 9:22
  time
• 9:22
  you
• 9:22
  go,
• 9:23
  it'll
• 9:23
  be
• 9:23
  a
• 9:23
  whole
• 9:23
  new
• 9:23
  set
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  masterworks.
• 9:26
  Some
• 9:26
  of
• 9:27
  them
• 9:27
  you'll
• 9:27
  never
• 9:27
  see
• 9:27
  again
• 9:27
  because
• 9:28
  they're
• 9:28
  going
• 9:28
  to
• 9:28
  private
• 9:28
  homes,
• 9:29
  but
• 9:29
  they're
• 9:29
  still
• 9:30
  masterworks.
• 9:31
  Yeah,
• 9:31
  that
• 9:31
  was
• 9:31
  what
• 9:31
  was
• 9:31
  so
• 9:32
  poignant
• 9:32
  when
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  went,
• 9:33
  because
• 9:33
  there
• 9:33
  was
• 9:33
  this
• 9:34
  incredible
• 9:35
  portrait
• 9:36
  by
• 9:36
  Klimt,
• 9:37
  Gustav
• 9:37
  Klimt,
• 9:38
  that
• 9:38
  would
• 9:38
  be
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  centerpiece
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  any
• 9:40
  museum
• 9:41
  that
• 9:42
  bought
• 9:42
  it.
• 9:42
  And
• 9:43
  it's
• 9:43
  going
• 9:43
  to
• 9:43
  be
• 9:43
  in
• 9:43
  some
• 9:44
  billionaire's
• 9:44
  bathroom,
• 9:45
  probably,
• 9:45
  you
• 9:46
  know,
• 9:46
  outside
• 9:46
  of
• 9:47
  public
• 9:47
  viewing.
• 9:48
  That
• 9:48
  said,
• 9:49
  I
• 9:49
  know
• 9:50
  most
• 9:50
  museums
• 9:51
  show
• 9:51
  only
• 9:51
  a
• 9:52
  fraction
• 9:52
  of
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  art
• 9:53
  they
• 9:53
  hold.
• 9:54
  That's
• 9:54
  right.
• 9:54
  So
• 9:55
  is
• 9:55
  this
• 9:55
  any
• 9:56
  worse?
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  don't
• 9:56
  know.
• 9:57
  Those
• 9:58
  are
• 9:58
  a
• 9:58
  couple
• 9:58
  of
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  new
• 9:58
  ones.
• 9:59
  The
• 9:59
  Jewish
• 9:59
  Museum
• 10:00
  also
• 10:01
  decided
• 10:02
  to
• 10:02
  redo
• 10:03
  their
• 10:03
  core
• 10:04
  exhibit.
• 10:05
  They
• 10:05
  used
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  have
• 10:06
  what
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  thought
• 10:06
  was
• 10:06
  a
• 10:06
  terrific
• 10:07
  core
• 10:07
  exhibit,
• 10:08
  which
• 10:09
  showed
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  history
• 10:10
  of
• 10:10
  Judaism
• 10:11
  chronologically
• 10:13
  with
• 10:13
  some
• 10:13
  very
• 10:14
  beautiful
• 10:14
  artifacts,
• 10:15
  lots
• 10:16
  of
• 10:16
  wall
• 10:16
  text.
• 10:17
  It
• 10:17
  talked
• 10:17
  about
• 10:17
  the
• 10:18
  Diaspora
• 10:19
  of
• 10:19
  the
• 10:19
  Jews.
• 10:20
  When
• 10:20
  I
• 10:20
  heard
• 10:20
  that
• 10:20
  was
• 10:21
  going
• 10:21
  away,
• 10:22
  I
• 10:22
  thought,
• 10:23
  oh,
• 10:23
  that's
• 10:23
  terrible.
• 10:24
  It
• 10:24
  was
• 10:24
  such
• 10:24
  a
• 10:25
  good
• 10:25
  learning
• 10:27
  exhibit.
• 10:28
  What
• 10:28
  they've
• 10:29
  done
• 10:29
  instead
• 10:30
  is
• 10:30
  they've
• 10:31
  looked
• 10:31
  at
• 10:32
  themes
• 10:32
  in
• 10:33
  Jewish
• 10:33
  life
• 10:34
  over
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  millennia
• 10:36
  and
• 10:37
  used
• 10:38
  interesting
• 10:39
  artifacts
• 10:40
  for
• 10:40
  which
• 10:40
  they
• 10:41
  then
• 10:41
  tell
• 10:41
  an
• 10:41
  entire
• 10:42
  story
• 10:43
  about
• 10:43
  that
• 10:43
  artifact.
• 10:44
  So
• 10:45
  in
• 10:45
  a
• 10:45
  way,
• 10:45
  it's
• 10:46
  a
• 10:46
  more
• 10:46
  scattershot
• 10:47
  approach
• 10:48
  to
• 10:48
  telling
• 10:48
  history.
• 10:49
  But
• 10:50
  you
• 10:50
  figure
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  Jewish
• 10:52
  Diaspora,
• 10:53
  I
• 10:53
  mean,
• 10:53
  my
• 10:54
  God,
• 10:54
  Jews
• 10:55
  went
• 10:55
  to
• 10:55
  every
• 10:55
  country
• 10:56
  on
• 10:56
  Earth.
• 10:57
  They
• 10:57
  were
• 10:58
  dispersed
• 10:59
  for
• 10:59
  thousands
• 11:00
  of
• 11:00
  years,
• 11:01
  and
• 11:02
  Learning
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  intricate
• 11:03
  history
• 11:04
  of,
• 11:05
  say,
• 11:05
  40
• 11:06
  different
• 11:06
  menorahs,
• 11:07
  each
• 11:08
  of
• 11:08
  which
• 11:08
  tell
• 11:09
  a
• 11:09
  really
• 11:09
  unique
• 11:10
  story.
• 11:11
  Like
• 11:11
  one
• 11:11
  menorah
• 11:12
  was
• 11:12
  created
• 11:14
  in
• 11:14
  a
• 11:14
  concentration
• 11:15
  camp
• 11:15
  in
• 11:16
  Germany
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  hidden
• 11:17
  from
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  Jew.
• 11:18
  Hidden
• 11:18
  from
• 11:18
  the
• 11:19
  Nazis
• 11:19
  until
• 11:19
  after
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  war.
• 11:20
  I
• 11:20
  mean,
• 11:21
  it
• 11:21
  survived.
• 11:21
  And
• 11:22
  they
• 11:22
  were
• 11:22
  able
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  worship
• 11:23
  with
• 11:23
  this
• 11:23
  menorah
• 11:24
  in
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  middle
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  a
• 11:25
  concentration
• 11:26
  camp.
• 11:26
  Another
• 11:27
  menorah
• 11:28
  was
• 11:28
  made
• 11:28
  from
• 11:29
  artillery
• 11:30
  shells
• 11:30
  during
• 11:31
  the
• 11:31
  Korean
• 11:31
  War
• 11:32
  by
• 11:32
  Jewish
• 11:32
  soldiers
• 11:33
  fighting
• 11:34
  in
• 11:34
  Korea.
• 11:35
  Another
• 11:36
  one
• 11:36
  was
• 11:36
  from
• 11:36
  the
• 11:37
  Middle
• 11:37
  East.
• 11:37
  Another
• 11:38
  one
• 11:38
  is
• 11:38
  just
• 11:38
  a
• 11:38
  simple
• 11:39
  lamp
• 11:39
  and
• 11:39
  they're
• 11:40
  not
• 11:40
  sure
• 11:40
  if
• 11:40
  it
• 11:40
  was
• 11:41
  a
• 11:41
  menorah.
• 11:42
  Just
• 11:42
  so
• 11:42
  many
• 11:43
  different
• 11:43
  stories.
• 11:45
  It
• 11:45
  actually
• 11:45
  turned
• 11:46
  out
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  be,
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  thought,
• 11:47
  just
• 11:47
  as
• 11:48
  effective.
• 11:48
  Well,
• 11:49
  I
• 11:49
  wish
• 11:49
  more
• 11:49
  museums
• 11:50
  presented
• 11:50
  their
• 11:50
  artifacts
• 11:51
  that
• 11:51
  way.
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  think
• 11:52
  provenance,
• 11:52
  which
• 11:53
  is
• 11:53
  sort
• 11:53
  of
• 11:53
  what
• 11:53
  you're
• 11:53
  talking
• 11:53
  about,
• 11:54
  it's
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  history
• 11:54
  of
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  object
• 11:56
  is
• 11:56
  what
• 11:56
  hooks
• 11:57
  me
• 11:57
  most
• 11:58
  often
• 11:58
  at
• 11:58
  a
• 11:58
  museum.
• 11:59
  I
• 11:59
  could
• 11:59
  go
• 11:59
  through
• 11:59
  a
• 12:00
  place
• 12:00
  like
• 12:00
  the
• 12:00
  British
• 12:00
  Museum
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  it
• 12:01
  just
• 12:01
  says
• 12:01
  amulet
• 12:02
  Egypt,
• 12:03
  300
• 12:03
  BC
• 12:04
  or
• 12:04
  something.
• 12:04
  Well,
• 12:05
  yeah.
• 12:05
  Okay.
• 12:05
  Where
• 12:05
  was
• 12:05
  it
• 12:06
  found?
• 12:06
  Whose
• 12:06
  possession
• 12:07
  has
• 12:07
  this
• 12:07
  been?
• 12:07
  In?
• 12:07
  Which
• 12:08
  private
• 12:09
  billionaire's
• 12:10
  private
• 12:10
  bathroom
• 12:10
  did
• 12:10
  this
• 12:11
  hang
• 12:11
  in
• 12:11
  before
• 12:11
  it
• 12:11
  came
• 12:12
  here?
• 12:12
  That
• 12:13
  is
• 12:13
  all
• 12:13
  super
• 12:13
  interesting
• 12:14
  to
• 12:14
  me.
• 12:14
  So
• 12:14
  I
• 12:15
  love
• 12:15
  that.
• 12:15
  I
• 12:16
  would
• 12:16
  really
• 12:16
  dig
• 12:16
  new
• 12:17
  presentation.
• 12:17
  Oh
• 12:18
  yeah,
• 12:18
  they
• 12:18
  do
• 12:18
  an
• 12:18
  excellent
• 12:19
  job.
• 12:19
  Actually.
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  walked
• 12:21
  in
• 12:22
  with
• 12:22
  a
• 12:22
  preconception
• 12:23
  that
• 12:23
  I
• 12:23
  was
• 12:24
  going
• 12:24
  to
• 12:24
  slam
• 12:24
  it
• 12:24
  because
• 12:25
  they
• 12:25
  had
• 12:25
  gotten
• 12:25
  rid
• 12:25
  of
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  chronological
• 12:26
  order.
• 12:27
  And
• 12:27
  I
• 12:27
  came
• 12:27
  out
• 12:28
  loving
• 12:28
  it.
• 12:28
  You
• 12:28
  know,
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  just
• 12:29
  thought
• 12:29
  it
• 12:29
  was.
• 12:29
  Really
• 12:30
  human,
• 12:30
  which
• 12:31
  all
• 12:31
  objects
• 12:31
  are.
• 12:32
  Yeah,
• 12:33
  yeah,
• 12:34
  they
• 12:34
  have
• 12:34
  portraits
• 12:35
  and
• 12:35
  they
• 12:35
  have
• 12:35
  other
• 12:36
  religious
• 12:37
  objects
• 12:37
  and
• 12:38
  then
• 12:38
  they
• 12:38
  have
• 12:38
  just
• 12:38
  like
• 12:39
  fashion
• 12:39
  objects.
• 12:40
  Like
• 12:40
  Isaac
• 12:41
  Mizrahi
• 12:42
  created
• 12:43
  a
• 12:43
  belt
• 12:44
  buckle
• 12:45
  with
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  Star
• 12:45
  of
• 12:46
  David
• 12:46
  on
• 12:46
  it.
• 12:46
  What
• 12:47
  does
• 12:47
  that
• 12:47
  mean?
• 12:47
  Who
• 12:48
  should
• 12:48
  be
• 12:48
  wearing
• 12:48
  that
• 12:49
  belt
• 12:49
  buckle?
• 12:50
  They
• 12:50
  go
• 12:50
  into
• 12:50
  all
• 12:50
  the
• 12:51
  interesting
• 12:51
  issues.
• 12:52
  I
• 12:52
  don't
• 12:52
  know.
• 12:53
  It
• 12:53
  was
• 12:53
  well
• 12:53
  done.
• 12:54
  So
• 12:54
  those
• 12:54
  are
• 12:55
  a
• 12:55
  couple
• 12:55
  of
• 12:55
  the
• 12:55
  new
• 12:56
  things
• 12:56
  you'll
• 12:56
  see
• 12:57
  in
• 12:57
  New
• 12:57
  York
• 12:57
  City
• 12:58
  if
• 12:58
  you
• 12:58
  come
• 12:58
  to
• 12:59
  visit,
• 12:59
  if
• 12:59
  you
• 13:00
  can
• 13:00
  afford
• 13:00
  to
• 13:01
  stay
• 13:01
  here.
• 13:02
  Last
• 13:02
  year
• 13:03
  when
• 13:03
  I
• 13:04
  saw
• 13:04
  how
• 13:04
  much
• 13:04
  the
• 13:05
  hotel
• 13:05
  prices
• 13:06
  had
• 13:06
  risen
• 13:07
  for
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  first
• 13:07
  time
• 13:08
  ever,
• 13:09
  I
• 13:09
  added
• 13:10
  hotels
• 13:10
  in
• 13:11
  New
• 13:11
  Jersey
• 13:12
  to
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  book.
• 13:12
  Just
• 13:13
  because
• 13:13
  I
• 13:13
  was
• 13:14
  so
• 13:14
  stunned
• 13:15
  by
• 13:15
  how
• 13:15
  much
• 13:16
  in
• 13:16
  high
• 13:16
  season
• 13:17
  places
• 13:18
  cost.
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  mean,
• 13:19
  in
• 13:19
  high
• 13:19
  season
• 13:20
  now
• 13:20
  it
• 13:20
  is
• 13:21
  not
• 13:21
  unusual
• 13:22
  for
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  average
• 13:23
  price
• 13:23
  of
• 13:23
  a
• 13:24
  one
• 13:24
  night
• 13:24
  stay
• 13:24
  in
• 13:25
  New
• 13:25
  York
• 13:25
  to
• 13:26
  be
• 13:26
  $500
• 13:26
  plus
• 13:27
  dollars.
• 13:28
  And
• 13:28
  that
• 13:28
  is
• 13:28
  for
• 13:29
  a
• 13:29
  hotel
• 13:29
  that
• 13:30
  in
• 13:30
  low
• 13:30
  season
• 13:31
  goes
• 13:31
  for
• 13:31
  $149.
• 13:35
  So
• 13:35
  I
• 13:35
  thought
• 13:35
  it
• 13:35
  couldn't
• 13:36
  get
• 13:36
  worse.
• 13:37
  It
• 13:37
  hasn't
• 13:37
  gotten
• 13:38
  that
• 13:38
  much
• 13:38
  worse
• 13:39
  on
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  high
• 13:40
  end.
• 13:40
  But
• 13:40
  in
• 13:41
  off
• 13:41
  season
• 13:42
  now,
• 13:42
  prices
• 13:42
  are
• 13:43
  slightly
• 13:43
  higher.
• 13:45
  So
• 13:46
  there's
• 13:46
  still
• 13:46
  this
• 13:47
  incredible
• 13:47
  swinging
• 13:48
  that
• 13:48
  goes
• 13:49
  between
• 13:49
  high
• 13:50
  season
• 13:50
  and
• 13:50
  low
• 13:51
  for
• 13:51
  pricing,
• 13:52
  but
• 13:54
  it's
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  little
• 13:55
  higher
• 13:55
  on
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  low
• 13:56
  end
• 13:56
  too
• 13:56
  now,
• 13:57
  sadly.
• 13:58
  And
• 13:58
  then
• 13:58
  restaurant
• 13:59
  prices
• 13:59
  also
• 14:01
  have
• 14:01
  just
• 14:01
  gone
• 14:01
  through
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  roof,
• 14:02
  but
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  think
• 14:03
  that's
• 14:03
  across
• 14:03
  the
• 14:03
  United
• 14:04
  States.
• 14:04
  Yeah,
• 14:05
  I
• 14:05
  see
• 14:05
  that
• 14:05
  everywhere
• 14:05
  now.
• 14:06
  And
• 14:06
  before
• 14:07
  we
• 14:07
  go
• 14:07
  away
• 14:07
  from
• 14:07
  hotels,
• 14:08
  you
• 14:08
  just
• 14:09
  wrote
• 14:09
  an
• 14:09
  interesting
• 14:09
  article
• 14:10
  about
• 14:10
  Mamdani
• 14:11
  getting
• 14:12
  rid
• 14:12
  of
• 14:12
  junk
• 14:12
  fees.
• 14:13
  Or
• 14:13
  did
• 14:14
  he?
• 14:14
  What
• 14:15
  actually
• 14:15
  happened?
• 14:16
  It
• 14:17
  was
• 14:17
  announced
• 14:17
  by
• 14:17
  the
• 14:18
  New
• 14:18
  York
• 14:18
  City
• 14:18
  mayor
• 14:18
  Mandani,
• 14:19
  that
• 14:20
  hotel
• 14:20
  junk
• 14:21
  fees
• 14:21
  will
• 14:22
  now
• 14:23
  be
• 14:23
  required
• 14:24
  to
• 14:24
  be
• 14:24
  disclosed
• 14:25
  from
• 14:26
  the
• 14:26
  very
• 14:26
  start
• 14:26
  of
• 14:27
  every
• 14:27
  transaction.
• 14:28
  So
• 14:28
  you
• 14:28
  have
• 14:29
  to
• 14:29
  be
• 14:29
  told
• 14:29
  it
• 14:30
  up
• 14:30
  front
• 14:30
  when
• 14:30
  you
• 14:30
  get,
• 14:30
  you
• 14:31
  know,
• 14:31
  when
• 14:31
  you
• 14:31
  enter
• 14:31
  the,
• 14:32
  you
• 14:32
  know,
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  purchase
• 14:33
  process.
• 14:33
  Otherwise
• 14:34
  the
• 14:34
  hotel
• 14:34
  is
• 14:34
  in
• 14:34
  violation
• 14:35
  and
• 14:36
  their
• 14:37
  fees
• 14:37
  they'll
• 14:38
  have
• 14:38
  to
• 14:38
  pay
• 14:38
  if
• 14:38
  they're
• 14:39
  caught
• 14:40
  doing
• 14:40
  this,
• 14:40
  up
• 14:40
  to
• 14:41
  3,3500
• 14:42
  for
• 14:42
  a
• 14:42
  violation.
• 14:43
  That's
• 14:44
  something
• 14:44
  that
• 14:44
  California
• 14:44
  did
• 14:45
  a
• 14:45
  couple
• 14:45
  years
• 14:45
  ago
• 14:45
  as
• 14:46
  well,
• 14:46
  something
• 14:46
  the
• 14:46
  FTC
• 14:47
  has
• 14:47
  been
• 14:47
  sniffing
• 14:47
  around.
• 14:48
  So
• 14:48
  there
• 14:48
  is
• 14:48
  a
• 14:49
  lot
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  legal
• 14:49
  support
• 14:49
  for
• 14:50
  that.
• 14:51
  But
• 14:51
  he
• 14:51
  also
• 14:51
  added,
• 14:52
  if
• 14:53
  a
• 14:53
  hotel
• 14:53
  takes
• 14:54
  a
• 14:54
  credit
• 14:54
  card
• 14:54
  hold
• 14:55
  or
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  deposit,
• 14:56
  which
• 14:56
  is
• 14:57
  something
• 14:57
  that
• 14:57
  I
• 14:57
  think
• 14:58
  a
• 14:58
  lot
• 14:58
  of
• 14:58
  the,
• 14:58
  the
• 14:59
  less
• 14:59
  expensive
• 15:00
  hotels
• 15:00
  do,
• 15:00
  especially
• 15:00
  for
• 15:01
  younger
• 15:01
  travelers,
• 15:02
  they
• 15:02
  also
• 15:03
  have
• 15:03
  to
• 15:03
  tell
• 15:03
  you
• 15:03
  up
• 15:04
  ahead
• 15:04
  of
• 15:04
  time,
• 15:04
  it's,
• 15:05
  it's
• 15:05
  being
• 15:05
  more
• 15:05
  regulated.
• 15:06
  It's
• 15:06
  being,
• 15:06
  they're
• 15:07
  keeping
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  sharp
• 15:07
  eye
• 15:07
  on
• 15:08
  it
• 15:08
  and
• 15:08
  they
• 15:08
  pro.
• 15:09
  The
• 15:09
  city's
• 15:09
  consumer,
• 15:10
  you
• 15:10
  know,
• 15:10
  protection
• 15:11
  division
• 15:11
  is
• 15:11
  promising
• 15:12
  to
• 15:12
  go
• 15:12
  to
• 15:12
  bat
• 15:12
  for
• 15:13
  people
• 15:13
  if
• 15:13
  they
• 15:13
  feel
• 15:14
  like
• 15:14
  either
• 15:14
  of
• 15:14
  those
• 15:16
  new
• 15:16
  rules
• 15:16
  is
• 15:16
  being
• 15:17
  violated.
• 15:17
  That
• 15:17
  that's
• 15:18
  gone
• 15:18
  into
• 15:18
  effect
• 15:19
  in,
• 15:19
  in
• 15:20
  the,
• 15:20
  in.
• 15:20
  In
• 15:20
  February.
• 15:21
  Yeah,
• 15:21
  sometime
• 15:22
  in
• 15:22
  February.
• 15:23
  So,
• 15:23
  yeah,
• 15:23
  it's
• 15:23
  something.
• 15:23
  It's
• 15:24
  not.
• 15:24
  It's
• 15:24
  not,
• 15:25
  you
• 15:25
  know,
• 15:25
  restaurants
• 15:26
  aren't
• 15:26
  included.
• 15:26
  They
• 15:26
  can,
• 15:26
  Restaurants
• 15:27
  can
• 15:27
  still
• 15:27
  stick
• 15:27
  hidden
• 15:28
  fees
• 15:28
  on
• 15:28
  there,
• 15:29
  but,
• 15:29
  you
• 15:29
  know,
• 15:29
  we're
• 15:29
  getting
• 15:30
  there.
• 15:30
  Interestingly,
• 15:30
  Mandani
• 15:31
  didn't.
• 15:31
  Isn't
• 15:32
  the
• 15:32
  one
• 15:32
  who
• 15:32
  wrote
• 15:32
  this
• 15:32
  up.
• 15:33
  This
• 15:33
  was
• 15:33
  all
• 15:33
  been
• 15:33
  formulated
• 15:34
  in
• 15:34
  2025
• 15:35
  under
• 15:35
  the
• 15:35
  PRE.
• 15:36
  Previous
• 15:36
  mayor
• 15:36
  and
• 15:36
  has
• 15:37
  already
• 15:37
  gone
• 15:37
  through
• 15:37
  the
• 15:37
  public
• 15:38
  comment
• 15:38
  period
• 15:39
  even
• 15:39
  before
• 15:39
  Mamdani
• 15:40
  took
• 15:40
  over.
• 15:40
  So
• 15:40
  this
• 15:41
  is,
• 15:41
  this
• 15:41
  has
• 15:41
  been
• 15:41
  something
• 15:41
  that
• 15:42
  the
• 15:42
  city
• 15:42
  has
• 15:42
  been
• 15:42
  trying
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  do
• 15:43
  for
• 15:43
  quite
• 15:44
  a
• 15:44
  while
• 15:44
  and
• 15:44
  they
• 15:44
  got
• 15:44
  it
• 15:44
  through.
• 15:45
  Yeah,
• 15:45
  no,
• 15:46
  I
• 15:46
  like
• 15:46
  it.
• 15:46
  I'm
• 15:46
  very
• 15:47
  happy
• 15:47
  that
• 15:47
  they're
• 15:47
  doing
• 15:47
  it.
• 15:48
  And
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  final
• 15:49
  thing
• 15:49
  I'm
• 15:49
  seeing
• 15:50
  that's
• 15:50
  different
• 15:51
  or
• 15:51
  will
• 15:51
  be
• 15:51
  different
• 15:51
  in
• 15:52
  my
• 15:52
  next
• 15:52
  edition
• 15:53
  is
• 15:53
  there's
• 15:54
  two
• 15:54
  new
• 15:55
  really
• 15:55
  unexpected
• 15:57
  cuisine
• 15:57
  trends
• 15:58
  in
• 15:58
  New
• 15:58
  York
• 15:58
  City.
• 15:59
  And
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  mention
• 15:59
  them
• 16:00
  not
• 16:00
  only
• 16:00
  for
• 16:00
  visitors
• 16:01
  to
• 16:01
  New
• 16:01
  York
• 16:01
  City,
• 16:02
  but
• 16:02
  because
• 16:02
  I
• 16:03
  do
• 16:03
  think,
• 16:03
  and
• 16:03
  maybe
• 16:04
  this
• 16:04
  is
• 16:04
  the
• 16:04
  New
• 16:04
  York
• 16:04
  snob
• 16:05
  in
• 16:05
  me,
• 16:05
  that
• 16:05
  the
• 16:06
  culinary
• 16:07
  trends
• 16:08
  that
• 16:08
  start
• 16:08
  in
• 16:08
  New
• 16:09
  York
• 16:09
  often
• 16:09
  go
• 16:10
  to
• 16:10
  other
• 16:10
  parts
• 16:11
  of
• 16:11
  the
• 16:11
  country.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:13
  the
• 16:13
  first
• 16:13
  Culinary
• 16:14
  trend
• 16:14
  is
• 16:16
  Caribbean
• 16:16
  food,
• 16:17
  but
• 16:18
  I'm
• 16:18
  not
• 16:18
  talking
• 16:18
  about
• 16:19
  cheap
• 16:19
  patties
• 16:20
  and,
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  don't
• 16:21
  know,
• 16:21
  jerk
• 16:22
  chicken
• 16:23
  that
• 16:23
  is
• 16:24
  sold
• 16:24
  very
• 16:25
  inexpensively.
• 16:26
  Caribbean
• 16:26
  food
• 16:27
  has
• 16:27
  gone
• 16:28
  high
• 16:28
  end.
• 16:29
  And
• 16:29
  some
• 16:29
  of
• 16:29
  the
• 16:30
  best
• 16:30
  chefs
• 16:31
  working
• 16:31
  in
• 16:31
  New
• 16:32
  York
• 16:32
  City
• 16:33
  are
• 16:33
  exploring
• 16:34
  trends
• 16:35
  in
• 16:35
  Caribbean
• 16:36
  food
• 16:36
  from
• 16:37
  all
• 16:37
  parts
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  the
• 16:37
  Caribbean,
• 16:38
  many
• 16:38
  different
• 16:39
  nations,
• 16:40
  and
• 16:40
  elevating
• 16:41
  them.
• 16:42
  And
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  had
• 16:43
  something
• 16:43
  called
• 16:44
  a
• 16:44
  blas.
• 16:45
  I
• 16:45
  think
• 16:45
  it
• 16:45
  was
• 16:45
  called
• 16:45
  a
• 16:46
  blas,
• 16:46
  which
• 16:46
  is
• 16:46
  actually
• 16:47
  a
• 16:47
  seafood
• 16:48
  stew
• 16:49
  at
• 16:50
  this
• 16:50
  new
• 16:50
  restaurant
• 16:51
  called
• 16:51
  Kabawa,
• 16:52
  where
• 16:53
  they're
• 16:53
  playing
• 16:53
  reggae
• 16:54
  and
• 16:54
  ska
• 16:55
  and
• 16:55
  soca
• 16:56
  and
• 16:56
  other
• 16:56
  Caribbean
• 16:57
  music
• 16:58
  as
• 16:58
  you
• 16:58
  eat,
• 16:59
  as
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  do
• 17:00
  this
• 17:00
  three
• 17:00
  course
• 17:01
  tasting
• 17:01
  menu
• 17:02
  that
• 17:02
  is
• 17:02
  $145
• 17:04
  but
• 17:04
  is
• 17:05
  incredibly
• 17:05
  delicious,
• 17:06
  incredibly
• 17:07
  memorable
• 17:07
  because
• 17:08
  you
• 17:08
  sit
• 17:08
  at
• 17:08
  a
• 17:09
  counter
• 17:10
  around
• 17:10
  the
• 17:11
  kitchen
• 17:11
  and
• 17:11
  so
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  can
• 17:12
  talk
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  chefs
• 17:13
  and
• 17:13
  watch
• 17:13
  what
• 17:13
  they're
• 17:13
  doing.
• 17:14
  And
• 17:14
  it's,
• 17:14
  it's
• 17:15
  really
• 17:15
  fun.
• 17:15
  One
• 17:16
  of
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  best
• 17:16
  meals
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  had
• 17:17
  and
• 17:18
  that's
• 17:18
  what
• 17:18
  I.
• 17:19
  What
• 17:19
  so
• 17:20
  surprised
• 17:20
  me
• 17:20
  is
• 17:21
  I
• 17:21
  feel
• 17:22
  like
• 17:22
  they're
• 17:22
  doing
• 17:22
  this
• 17:22
  in
• 17:23
  New
• 17:23
  York
• 17:23
  City.
• 17:24
  You
• 17:24
  often
• 17:24
  don't
• 17:25
  get
• 17:25
  this
• 17:25
  in
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  Caribbean.
• 17:27
  In
• 17:27
  the
• 17:27
  Caribbean,
• 17:28
  when
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  go
• 17:29
  out
• 17:29
  for
• 17:29
  a
• 17:29
  high
• 17:29
  end
• 17:30
  meal,
• 17:30
  it's
• 17:31
  usually
• 17:31
  going
• 17:31
  to
• 17:31
  be
• 17:31
  French
• 17:32
  or
• 17:32
  Italian.
• 17:33
  It's
• 17:33
  not
• 17:34
  Caribbean
• 17:34
  food,
• 17:35
  you
• 17:35
  know,
• 17:35
  so
• 17:36
  it
• 17:36
  usually
• 17:36
  you
• 17:36
  either
• 17:37
  get
• 17:38
  so,
• 17:38
  so
• 17:39
  inexpensive
• 17:40
  Caribbean
• 17:40
  food
• 17:41
  in
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  Caribbean
• 17:42
  or
• 17:43
  you
• 17:43
  get
• 17:43
  high
• 17:44
  end
• 17:44
  food
• 17:45
  from
• 17:45
  another
• 17:46
  cuisine
• 17:46
  tradition.
• 17:48
  So
• 17:48
  I'm
• 17:49
  hoping
• 17:49
  that
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  Caribbean
• 17:50
  will
• 17:50
  take
• 17:50
  note
• 17:51
  and
• 17:51
  maybe
• 17:52
  support
• 17:53
  their
• 17:53
  own
• 17:54
  cuisine
• 17:54
  styles.
• 17:55
  It
• 17:55
  does
• 17:56
  make
• 17:56
  sense.
• 17:56
  But,
• 17:56
  you
• 17:56
  know,
• 17:56
  a
• 17:57
  lot
• 17:57
  of
• 17:57
  places
• 17:57
  where
• 17:58
  you
• 17:58
  get
• 17:58
  high
• 17:58
  end
• 17:58
  food
• 17:58
  in
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  Caribbean
• 17:59
  are
• 17:59
  hotels
• 18:00
  and
• 18:00
  resorts.
• 18:00
  Sure.
• 18:01
  They're
• 18:01
  often
• 18:01
  not
• 18:02
  run
• 18:02
  by
• 18:02
  Caribbeans.
• 18:03
  Right.
• 18:03
  They're
• 18:03
  run
• 18:03
  by
• 18:03
  outside
• 18:04
  forces.
• 18:05
  Right.
• 18:05
  So
• 18:05
  it
• 18:05
  will
• 18:05
  be
• 18:06
  interesting
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  see
• 18:06
  if,
• 18:06
  as
• 18:07
  these
• 18:07
  great
• 18:07
  chefs
• 18:08
  of
• 18:08
  New
• 18:08
  York
• 18:08
  City
• 18:09
  gain
• 18:09
  more,
• 18:10
  you
• 18:10
  know,
• 18:10
  power
• 18:11
  and
• 18:11
  influence,
• 18:11
  that
• 18:11
  they're
• 18:12
  poached
• 18:12
  to
• 18:12
  go
• 18:12
  to
• 18:13
  the
• 18:13
  Caribbean
• 18:13
  and
• 18:13
  bring
• 18:13
  Caribbean
• 18:14
  food
• 18:14
  back
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  the
• 18:15
  Caribbean
• 18:15
  islands.
• 18:16
  Yeah,
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  hope
• 18:17
  so.
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  hope
• 18:17
  so
• 18:17
  because
• 18:18
  I've
• 18:18
  been
• 18:18
  really
• 18:18
  impressed.
• 18:19
  There's
• 18:19
  another
• 18:20
  restaurant
• 18:20
  called
• 18:20
  Tatiana,
• 18:21
  which
• 18:21
  is
• 18:21
  Lincoln
• 18:22
  center,
• 18:22
  where
• 18:23
  the
• 18:23
  same
• 18:23
  thing
• 18:23
  is
• 18:23
  happening.
• 18:24
  And
• 18:24
  I
• 18:24
  think
• 18:24
  there
• 18:24
  are
• 18:25
  more
• 18:25
  in
• 18:25
  the
• 18:25
  works.
• 18:26
  So
• 18:26
  that's
• 18:26
  trend
• 18:26
  number
• 18:27
  one.
• 18:27
  Trend
• 18:27
  number
• 18:28
  two
• 18:29
  are
• 18:29
  wine
• 18:30
  bars.
• 18:31
  When
• 18:31
  I
• 18:31
  say
• 18:31
  wine,
• 18:32
  I
• 18:32
  mean
• 18:32
  wine
• 18:33
  made
• 18:33
  with
• 18:33
  grapes
• 18:34
  that
• 18:34
  are
• 18:34
  serving
• 18:35
  really
• 18:36
  delicious
• 18:37
  Asian
• 18:37
  food,
• 18:38
  which
• 18:39
  is
• 18:39
  also
• 18:39
  kind
• 18:40
  of
• 18:40
  an
• 18:40
  unexpected
• 18:41
  combination.
• 18:42
  Usually
• 18:43
  if
• 18:43
  it's
• 18:43
  a
• 18:43
  great
• 18:44
  Asian
• 18:44
  restaurant,
• 18:45
  they'll
• 18:45
  be
• 18:45
  serving
• 18:46
  rice
• 18:46
  wine
• 18:47
  or
• 18:48
  alcohol
• 18:48
  or
• 18:49
  maybe
• 18:49
  grape
• 18:50
  wine,
• 18:50
  but
• 18:50
  it's
• 18:51
  usually
• 18:51
  not
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  focus.
• 18:52
  It's
• 18:53
  usually
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  focus
• 18:54
  on
• 18:54
  the
• 18:54
  food
• 18:55
  here.
• 18:55
  These
• 18:55
  great
• 18:56
  Asian
• 18:56
  chefs
• 18:57
  have
• 18:57
  teamed
• 18:58
  up
• 18:58
  with
• 18:58
  great
• 18:59
  sommeliers.
• 19:00
  So
• 19:00
  they're
• 19:00
  doing
• 19:01
  Korean
• 19:01
  food
• 19:02
  or
• 19:02
  they're
• 19:02
  doing
• 19:03
  Vietnamese.
• 19:03
  Food,
• 19:04
  or
• 19:04
  they're
• 19:04
  doing
• 19:04
  Chinese
• 19:05
  food
• 19:06
  with
• 19:06
  incredible
• 19:07
  European
• 19:07
  wines.
• 19:08
  So
• 19:09
  it's
• 19:09
  kind
• 19:09
  of
• 19:09
  an
• 19:09
  odd
• 19:10
  combination,
• 19:10
  but
• 19:11
  it
• 19:11
  works.
• 19:11
  It's
• 19:11
  delicious.
• 19:12
  One
• 19:13
  is
• 19:13
  called
• 19:14
  Ha's
• 19:15
  Snack
• 19:15
  Bar.
• 19:16
  That's
• 19:16
  my
• 19:16
  least
• 19:17
  favorite
• 19:17
  of
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  three
• 19:18
  that
• 19:18
  was
• 19:18
  put
• 19:19
  on
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  list
• 19:19
  by
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  New
• 19:20
  York
• 19:20
  Times
• 19:20
  of
• 19:20
  the
• 19:21
  top
• 19:21
  10
• 19:21
  new
• 19:21
  restaurants
• 19:22
  in
• 19:22
  New
• 19:23
  York
• 19:23
  City.
• 19:23
  And
• 19:23
  because
• 19:24
  of
• 19:24
  that,
• 19:24
  it's
• 19:25
  impossible
• 19:25
  to
• 19:25
  get
• 19:26
  a
• 19:26
  reservation.
• 19:27
  In
• 19:27
  fact,
• 19:27
  I
• 19:28
  was
• 19:28
  sitting
• 19:28
  next
• 19:28
  to
• 19:28
  a
• 19:29
  finance
• 19:29
  bro
• 19:30
  when
• 19:30
  I
• 19:30
  went.
• 19:30
  I
• 19:31
  waited
• 19:31
  in
• 19:31
  line
• 19:31
  in
• 19:31
  the
• 19:32
  cold
• 19:32
  for
• 19:32
  an
• 19:32
  hour.
• 19:33
  Get
• 19:34
  in.
• 19:34
  And
• 19:35
  I
• 19:36
  lucked
• 19:36
  out.
• 19:36
  I
• 19:37
  got
• 19:37
  a
• 19:37
  seat.
• 19:38
  The
• 19:38
  people
• 19:38
  around
• 19:39
  me
• 19:39
  online
• 19:40
  all
• 19:40
  got
• 19:40
  room
• 19:41
  at
• 19:41
  the
• 19:41
  standing
• 19:42
  counter,
• 19:42
  so
• 19:43
  they
• 19:43
  had
• 19:43
  to
• 19:43
  eat
• 19:43
  their
• 19:44
  meal
• 19:44
  standing
• 19:45
  up.
• 19:45
  I
• 19:45
  was
• 19:45
  seated
• 19:46
  next
• 19:46
  to
• 19:46
  this
• 19:47
  finance
• 19:47
  bro,
• 19:48
  and
• 19:49
  his
• 19:49
  friends
• 19:49
  were
• 19:49
  saying
• 19:50
  to
• 19:50
  him,
• 19:50
  how'd
• 19:50
  you
• 19:50
  get
• 19:50
  the
• 19:50
  reservation?
• 19:51
  He's
• 19:51
  like,
• 19:51
  oh,
• 19:51
  I
• 19:51
  got
• 19:52
  an
• 19:52
  app.
• 19:52
  And
• 19:52
  so
• 19:52
  I
• 19:52
  said
• 19:53
  to
• 19:53
  him,
• 19:53
  what's
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  app?
• 19:54
  What's
• 19:54
  the
• 19:54
  app?
• 19:54
  He
• 19:55
  said,
• 19:55
  well,
• 19:56
  I
• 19:57
  feel
• 19:57
  like
• 19:57
  an
• 19:57
  asshole
• 19:58
  telling
• 19:58
  you
• 19:58
  this,
• 19:58
  But
• 19:59
  I
• 19:59
  pay
• 19:59
  $65
• 20:01
  a
• 20:01
  month
• 20:02
  for
• 20:02
  AI
• 20:03
  to
• 20:03
  go
• 20:04
  in
• 20:04
  through
• 20:04
  this
• 20:05
  app
• 20:05
  and
• 20:05
  grab
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  first
• 20:06
  reservation.
• 20:07
  He
• 20:07
  said,
• 20:08
  do
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  want
• 20:08
  me
• 20:08
  to
• 20:08
  recommend
• 20:09
  you?
• 20:09
  I
• 20:09
  have
• 20:09
  to.
• 20:10
  You
• 20:10
  have
• 20:10
  to
• 20:10
  know
• 20:11
  somebody
• 20:11
  to
• 20:11
  get
• 20:11
  on
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  app.
• 20:12
  And
• 20:12
  I
• 20:12
  said,
• 20:12
  no,
• 20:13
  thanks.
• 20:13
  That's.
• 20:13
  Oh,
• 20:14
  they're
• 20:14
  using
• 20:14
  AI
• 20:15
  to
• 20:16
  cordon
• 20:16
  people
• 20:16
  out
• 20:17
  of
• 20:17
  experiences
• 20:17
  now
• 20:18
  like
• 20:18
  that.
• 20:18
  Oh,
• 20:18
  that's
• 20:18
  gross.
• 20:19
  Yeah.
• 20:19
  Isn't
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  gross?
• 20:20
  So
• 20:21
  Ha
• 20:21
  Snack
• 20:21
  Bar
• 20:22
  is
• 20:22
  one
• 20:22
  that
• 20:22
  was
• 20:22
  my
• 20:22
  least
• 20:23
  favorite
• 20:23
  in
• 20:23
  terms
• 20:23
  of
• 20:24
  food
• 20:24
  and
• 20:24
  in
• 20:24
  terms
• 20:25
  of
• 20:25
  how
• 20:25
  insane
• 20:25
  it
• 20:25
  is
• 20:26
  to
• 20:26
  get
• 20:26
  in.
• 20:26
  My.
• 20:27
  My
• 20:27
  favorite.
• 20:28
  I
• 20:28
  went
• 20:28
  with.
• 20:29
  To.
• 20:29
  With
• 20:29
  our
• 20:29
  mutual
• 20:30
  friend
• 20:30
  Adrian.
• 20:31
  It's
• 20:31
  called
• 20:32
  Suns
• 20:32
  S
• 20:33
  U
• 20:33
  n
• 20:33
  N.
• 20:34
  And
• 20:34
  that
• 20:34
  is
• 20:35
  Korean
• 20:36
  food.
• 20:37
  And
• 20:37
  they
• 20:37
  have
• 20:37
  an
• 20:38
  incredible
• 20:38
  assortment
• 20:39
  of
• 20:39
  banchan.
• 20:40
  Those
• 20:40
  are
• 20:41
  the
• 20:41
  little
• 20:41
  dishes
• 20:42
  that
• 20:42
  you
• 20:42
  get
• 20:42
  with
• 20:42
  the
• 20:43
  Korean
• 20:43
  meal.
• 20:44
  But
• 20:44
  here
• 20:44
  it's
• 20:45
  elevated
• 20:45
  to
• 20:46
  a,
• 20:46
  you
• 20:46
  know,
• 20:47
  high
• 20:47
  art.
• 20:47
  I
• 20:48
  had
• 20:48
  candied
• 20:48
  anchovies,
• 20:49
  and
• 20:50
  if
• 20:50
  I
• 20:50
  could
• 20:50
  have
• 20:51
  candied
• 20:51
  anchovies
• 20:52
  every
• 20:52
  day,
• 20:52
  I
• 20:53
  would.
• 20:53
  They
• 20:53
  were
• 20:53
  delicious.
• 20:54
  So
• 20:55
  sons.
• 20:56
  And
• 20:56
  then
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  other
• 20:57
  one
• 20:57
  was.
• 20:58
  Oh,
• 20:59
  gosh.
• 20:59
  What
• 20:59
  was
• 20:59
  the
• 21:00
  other
• 21:00
  one?
• 21:01
  The
• 21:02
  other.
• 21:02
  I'm
• 21:03
  blanking
• 21:03
  on
• 21:03
  the
• 21:03
  name,
• 21:03
  but
• 21:04
  it.
• 21:04
  Will
• 21:04
  be
• 21:04
  in
• 21:04
  the
• 21:04
  book.
• 21:05
  It
• 21:05
  will
• 21:05
  be
• 21:06
  in
• 21:06
  the
• 21:06
  book.
• 21:06
  So
• 21:06
  that's
• 21:06
  a
• 21:07
  reason
• 21:07
  to
• 21:07
  buy
• 21:07
  the
• 21:07
  book.
• 21:08
  You
• 21:08
  really
• 21:08
  did
• 21:09
  blank,
• 21:09
  though.
• 21:09
  That
• 21:09
  wasn't
• 21:09
  a
• 21:10
  joke.
• 21:10
  I
• 21:10
  mean,
• 21:11
  no.
• 21:12
  And
• 21:12
  it
• 21:12
  will
• 21:12
  be
• 21:13
  in
• 21:13
  the
• 21:13
  book.
• 21:14
  Yes.
• 21:14
  Yes,
• 21:14
  it
• 21:14
  will
• 21:15
  be
• 21:15
  in
• 21:15
  the
• 21:15
  book.
• 21:15
  So
• 21:15
  it's
• 21:16
  been
• 21:16
  a
• 21:16
  fun
• 21:16
  time
• 21:17
  running
• 21:17
  around
• 21:17
  New
• 21:18
  York.
• 21:18
  Things
• 21:18
  are
• 21:19
  always
• 21:19
  changing.
• 21:19
  I
• 21:20
  also
• 21:20
  went
• 21:20
  to.
• 21:20
  You
• 21:21
  were
• 21:21
  talking
• 21:21
  about
• 21:22
  views
• 21:22
  in
• 21:22
  Times
• 21:23
  Square.
• 21:23
  The
• 21:24
  revolving
• 21:24
  restaurant
• 21:25
  in
• 21:25
  Times
• 21:26
  Square
• 21:26
  is
• 21:27
  now
• 21:27
  back.
• 21:28
  It's
• 21:28
  at
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  top
• 21:28
  of
• 21:28
  the
• 21:29
  Marriott
• 21:29
  Marquis.
• 21:30
  It
• 21:30
  slowly
• 21:31
  goes
• 21:31
  around.
• 21:31
  You
• 21:32
  have
• 21:32
  a
• 21:32
  Great
• 21:32
  view.
• 21:33
  The.
• 21:35
  Sometimes
• 21:38
  the
• 21:38
  cuisine
• 21:38
  is
• 21:39
  by
• 21:40
  restaurateur
• 21:40
  Danny
• 21:41
  Myers,
• 21:41
  and
• 21:42
  it's
• 21:42
  better
• 21:42
  than
• 21:42
  it
• 21:43
  has
• 21:43
  to
• 21:43
  be,
• 21:43
  but
• 21:43
  it's
• 21:44
  not
• 21:44
  as
• 21:44
  good
• 21:44
  as
• 21:44
  you'd
• 21:45
  get
• 21:45
  for
• 21:45
  other.
• 21:46
  At
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  same
• 21:46
  price
• 21:47
  point
• 21:47
  in
• 21:47
  other
• 21:47
  places.
• 21:48
  But
• 21:48
  it's.
• 21:48
  It's
• 21:49
  better
• 21:49
  than
• 21:49
  it
• 21:49
  used
• 21:50
  to
• 21:50
  be.
• 21:50
  So
• 21:50
  I'm.
• 21:51
  I'm
• 21:51
  recommending
• 21:51
  that
• 21:52
  again
• 21:52
  because
• 21:52
  it's.
• 21:52
  It's
• 21:53
  fun
• 21:53
  to
• 21:53
  be
• 21:54
  revolving
• 21:54
  around
• 21:55
  time.
• 21:55
  You
• 21:55
  know,
• 21:55
  revolving
• 21:56
  restaurants.
• 21:56
  Remember,
• 21:56
  they
• 21:57
  were
• 21:57
  so
• 21:57
  huge
• 21:57
  when
• 21:57
  we
• 21:57
  were
• 21:58
  young
• 21:58
  and
• 21:58
  now
• 21:58
  they're
• 21:58
  hard
• 21:59
  to
• 21:59
  find.
• 21:59
  Yeah,
• 22:00
  no,
• 22:00
  no,
• 22:00
  I
• 22:00
  think
• 22:01
  this
• 22:01
  is
• 22:01
  probably
• 22:01
  one
• 22:01
  of
• 22:01
  the
• 22:02
  few
• 22:02
  left.
• 22:02
  So
• 22:02
  that's
• 22:03
  it.
• 22:03
  Thank
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  so
• 22:04
  much,
• 22:04
  Jason,
• 22:05
  for
• 22:05
  coming
• 22:06
  on
• 22:06
  and
• 22:06
  talking
• 22:07
  New
• 22:07
  York
• 22:07
  City
• 22:08
  with
• 22:08
  me.
• 22:25
  Camping
• 22:26
  is
• 22:26
  a
• 22:26
  hugely
• 22:27
  popular
• 22:27
  way
• 22:28
  to
• 22:28
  vacation,
• 22:30
  to
• 22:30
  get
• 22:30
  your
• 22:30
  family
• 22:31
  out
• 22:31
  into
• 22:31
  the
• 22:32
  wilderness,
• 22:33
  to
• 22:33
  get
• 22:33
  yourself
• 22:34
  out
• 22:34
  into
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  outdoors.
• 22:36
  And
• 22:36
  one
• 22:36
  of
• 22:36
  the
• 22:37
  greatest
• 22:37
  experts
• 22:38
  in
• 22:38
  that
• 22:39
  vacation
• 22:40
  sphere
• 22:41
  is
• 22:41
  Kevin
• 22:42
  Long.
• 22:42
  He
• 22:43
  is
• 22:43
  the
• 22:43
  CEO
• 22:44
  of
• 22:45
  the
• 22:45
  Dyrt.
• 22:46
  The
• 22:46
  Dyrt
• 22:47
  is
• 22:47
  spelled
• 22:47
  D
• 22:47
  Y
• 22:48
  R
• 22:48
  t
• 22:49
  dot
• 22:49
  com
• 22:50
  and
• 22:50
  it
• 22:50
  is
• 22:51
  an
• 22:51
  excellent
• 22:52
  website
• 22:53
  to
• 22:53
  help
• 22:53
  you
• 22:54
  find
• 22:54
  room
• 22:55
  at
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  camp
• 22:55
  space.
• 22:56
  Hey,
• 22:56
  Kevin,
• 22:57
  thank
• 22:57
  you
• 22:57
  so
• 22:57
  much
• 22:58
  for
• 22:58
  returning
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  the
• 22:58
  Fromer
• 22:59
  Travel
• 22:59
  Show.
• 23:00
  Thanks
• 23:00
  for
• 23:01
  having
• 23:01
  me.
• 23:01
  Good
• 23:01
  to
• 23:01
  see
• 23:01
  you.
• 23:02
  Good
• 23:02
  to
• 23:02
  see
• 23:02
  you
• 23:02
  too.
• 23:03
  So
• 23:04
  you
• 23:04
  guys
• 23:05
  do
• 23:05
  an
• 23:06
  annual
• 23:07
  study
• 23:08
  that
• 23:08
  always
• 23:09
  has
• 23:09
  some
• 23:10
  really
• 23:10
  interesting
• 23:11
  findings
• 23:12
  in
• 23:12
  it.
• 23:13
  Before
• 23:13
  we
• 23:13
  get
• 23:13
  to
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  findings,
• 23:14
  tell
• 23:15
  me
• 23:15
  how
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  study
• 23:16
  is
• 23:16
  done.
• 23:17
  So,
• 23:17
  you
• 23:17
  know,
• 23:17
  the
• 23:18
  study
• 23:18
  is
• 23:18
  built
• 23:19
  by
• 23:19
  the
• 23:19
  Dirt.
• 23:19
  And
• 23:20
  as
• 23:20
  you
• 23:20
  know,
• 23:20
  the
• 23:20
  Dirt
• 23:21
  is
• 23:21
  the
• 23:21
  app
• 23:21
  to
• 23:21
  get
• 23:21
  the
• 23:22
  best
• 23:22
  campsites
• 23:23
  built
• 23:23
  by
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  largest
• 23:24
  RVing
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  camping
• 23:25
  community
• 23:26
  in
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  US
• 23:27
  so
• 23:27
  we
• 23:27
  at
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  Dirt
• 23:28
  are
• 23:28
  at
• 23:28
  a
• 23:29
  particular
• 23:29
  advantage
• 23:30
  to
• 23:30
  be
• 23:30
  able
• 23:30
  to
• 23:30
  capture
• 23:31
  information
• 23:32
  because
• 23:32
  we
• 23:33
  have
• 23:33
  20
• 23:33
  million
• 23:34
  campers
• 23:34
  that
• 23:34
  visit
• 23:35
  our
• 23:35
  platform
• 23:35
  every
• 23:36
  year.
• 23:36
  Wow.
• 23:37
  What
• 23:37
  we
• 23:37
  do
• 23:37
  is
• 23:38
  we
• 23:38
  survey
• 23:38
  our
• 23:39
  entire
• 23:39
  audience,
• 23:40
  plus
• 23:40
  we
• 23:41
  hire
• 23:41
  a
• 23:41
  third
• 23:42
  party
• 23:42
  provider
• 23:43
  to
• 23:43
  survey
• 23:43
  the
• 23:43
  nation.
• 23:44
  And
• 23:44
  then
• 23:45
  we
• 23:45
  put
• 23:45
  all
• 23:45
  of
• 23:45
  that
• 23:46
  data
• 23:46
  together
• 23:47
  on
• 23:47
  a
• 23:47
  report
• 23:47
  that
• 23:48
  we've
• 23:48
  been
• 23:48
  doing
• 23:48
  for
• 23:49
  years
• 23:49
  now.
• 23:50
  This
• 23:50
  is
• 23:50
  the
• 23:50
  third
• 23:51
  year
• 23:51
  in
• 23:51
  a
• 23:51
  row
• 23:51
  that
• 23:52
  we
• 23:52
  partnered
• 23:52
  with
• 23:53
  Toyota
• 23:53
  Trucks,
• 23:54
  and
• 23:54
  so
• 23:54
  they
• 23:54
  help
• 23:55
  us
• 23:55
  really
• 23:55
  have
• 23:56
  the
• 23:56
  resources
• 23:56
  to
• 23:57
  be
• 23:57
  able
• 23:57
  to
• 23:57
  dive
• 23:57
  much
• 23:58
  deeper
• 23:58
  into
• 23:58
  the
• 23:59
  data
• 23:59
  than
• 23:59
  we
• 23:59
  normally
• 23:59
  would
• 24:00
  otherwise.
• 24:01
  Interesting.
• 24:01
  And
• 24:01
  you
• 24:01
  also
• 24:02
  poll
• 24:03
  campsite
• 24:04
  owners
• 24:04
  too,
• 24:04
  right?
• 24:05
  So
• 24:06
  it's
• 24:06
  campers,
• 24:06
  campsite
• 24:07
  owners,
• 24:07
  and
• 24:08
  then
• 24:08
  just
• 24:08
  everybody
• 24:09
  in
• 24:09
  America.
• 24:10
  That
• 24:10
  way
• 24:10
  we
• 24:10
  have
• 24:11
  a
• 24:11
  really
• 24:11
  nice
• 24:12
  sloth
• 24:13
  of
• 24:13
  data
• 24:13
  to
• 24:13
  be
• 24:14
  able
• 24:14
  to
• 24:14
  pull
• 24:14
  from.
• 24:15
  Well,
• 24:15
  let's
• 24:15
  talk
• 24:15
  about
• 24:16
  some
• 24:16
  of
• 24:16
  the
• 24:16
  numbers.
• 24:17
  How
• 24:17
  many
• 24:18
  people
• 24:19
  did
• 24:19
  a
• 24:19
  camping
• 24:20
  vacation
• 24:20
  this
• 24:21
  year,
• 24:21
  to
• 24:21
  the
• 24:21
  best
• 24:21
  of
• 24:22
  your
• 24:22
  knowledge?
• 24:23
  Yeah.
• 24:23
  So
• 24:23
  our
• 24:23
  report
• 24:24
  showed
• 24:25
  that
• 24:25
  82.4
• 24:27
  million
• 24:27
  Americans
• 24:28
  camped
• 24:28
  in
• 24:28
  2025.
• 24:30
  That's
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  second
• 24:31
  highest
• 24:32
  year
• 24:32
  on
• 24:32
  record.
• 24:33
  The
• 24:34
  highest
• 24:34
  year
• 24:34
  record
• 24:34
  was
• 24:35
  2023
• 24:35
  was
• 24:36
  84
• 24:36
  million.
• 24:37
  Interesting.
• 24:38
  I
• 24:38
  think
• 24:38
  when
• 24:39
  you're
• 24:39
  up
• 24:39
  in
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  80s,
• 24:40
  80
• 24:40
  millions,
• 24:41
  it's
• 24:42
  just
• 24:42
  showing
• 24:42
  that
• 24:43
  camping
• 24:43
  is
• 24:43
  consistent
• 24:44
  and
• 24:44
  strong.
• 24:44
  And
• 24:45
  last
• 24:45
  year
• 24:45
  was
• 24:45
  a
• 24:45
  really
• 24:45
  good
• 24:46
  year
• 24:46
  for
• 24:46
  camping.
• 24:47
  Last
• 24:47
  year
• 24:47
  was
• 24:47
  a
• 24:47
  really
• 24:47
  good
• 24:48
  year.
• 24:48
  But
• 24:48
  I
• 24:48
  guess
• 24:48
  2003,
• 24:49
  23,
• 24:50
  we
• 24:50
  were
• 24:50
  just
• 24:51
  coming
• 24:51
  out
• 24:51
  of
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  pandemic.
• 24:52
  I
• 24:53
  think
• 24:53
  there
• 24:53
  was
• 24:53
  this
• 24:53
  sur
• 24:54
  travel
• 24:55
  in
• 24:55
  all
• 24:55
  modalities,
• 24:56
  not
• 24:57
  just
• 24:57
  camping.
• 24:58
  Exactly.
• 24:58
  And
• 24:59
  so
• 24:59
  when
• 24:59
  you
• 24:59
  see
• 24:59
  that,
• 24:59
  well,
• 25:00
  last
• 25:00
  year
• 25:00
  was
• 25:00
  the
• 25:01
  second
• 25:01
  highest
• 25:01
  year
• 25:02
  on
• 25:02
  record.
• 25:02
  And
• 25:02
  we've
• 25:03
  been
• 25:03
  doing
• 25:03
  this
• 25:03
  report,
• 25:04
  you
• 25:04
  know,
• 25:04
  for
• 25:04
  over
• 25:04
  five
• 25:05
  years
• 25:05
  now.
• 25:06
  I
• 25:06
  think
• 25:06
  it
• 25:06
  shows
• 25:07
  that
• 25:07
  camping
• 25:07
  is,
• 25:07
  is
• 25:08
  holding
• 25:08
  strong.
• 25:09
  In
• 25:09
  addition
• 25:09
  to
• 25:10
  that,
• 25:10
  we
• 25:10
  had
• 25:11
  2.6
• 25:11
  million
• 25:12
  first
• 25:13
  time
• 25:13
  campers
• 25:13
  in
• 25:14
  2025
• 25:15
  and
• 25:16
  more
• 25:16
  than
• 25:17
  27
• 25:17
  million
• 25:18
  first
• 25:18
  time
• 25:19
  campers
• 25:19
  have
• 25:20
  camped
• 25:20
  in
• 25:20
  the
• 25:20
  last
• 25:20
  five
• 25:21
  years.
• 25:22
  So
• 25:22
  I
• 25:22
  think
• 25:22
  what
• 25:22
  that's
• 25:22
  showing
• 25:23
  is
• 25:23
  that
• 25:23
  camping
• 25:24
  has
• 25:24
  a
• 25:24
  continual
• 25:26
  influx
• 25:27
  of
• 25:27
  people
• 25:28
  coming
• 25:28
  into
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  segment
• 25:30
  year
• 25:30
  after
• 25:31
  year
• 25:31
  after
• 25:31
  year.
• 25:32
  Well,
• 25:32
  that's
• 25:33
  the
• 25:33
  good
• 25:33
  news.
• 25:33
  The
• 25:34
  bad
• 25:34
  news
• 25:34
  is
• 25:36
  half
• 25:36
  of
• 25:36
  your
• 25:36
  respondents
• 25:37
  said
• 25:37
  they
• 25:38
  had
• 25:38
  trouble
• 25:38
  finding
• 25:39
  room
• 25:40
  at
• 25:40
  campgrounds.
• 25:41
  Right.
• 25:41
  It
• 25:42
  is
• 25:42
  tough
• 25:42
  because
• 25:43
  camping
• 25:43
  is
• 25:43
  growing
• 25:44
  and
• 25:44
  you
• 25:44
  know,
• 25:45
  there's
• 25:45
  only
• 25:45
  so
• 25:45
  many
• 25:45
  spots
• 25:46
  to
• 25:46
  go
• 25:46
  around.
• 25:47
  When
• 25:47
  I,
• 25:47
  when
• 25:47
  you
• 25:48
  look
• 25:48
  at
• 25:48
  the
• 25:49
  difficulty
• 25:49
  booking,
• 25:50
  53%
• 25:51
  of
• 25:51
  campers
• 25:52
  had
• 25:52
  trouble
• 25:52
  booking
• 25:53
  because
• 25:53
  the
• 25:53
  campsites
• 25:54
  were
• 25:54
  full.
• 25:55
  Now
• 25:55
  that
• 25:56
  was
• 25:56
  down
• 25:56
  slightly,
• 25:57
  but
• 25:58
  three
• 25:58
  out
• 25:58
  of
• 25:58
  the
• 25:59
  last
• 25:59
  four
• 25:59
  years
• 26:00
  it
• 26:00
  has
• 26:00
  been
• 26:01
  over
• 26:01
  50%
• 26:02
  of
• 26:02
  our
• 26:02
  respondents
• 26:03
  have
• 26:03
  said
• 26:03
  that
• 26:04
  they've
• 26:04
  had
• 26:05
  troubles
• 26:05
  booking.
• 26:06
  So
• 26:07
  they
• 26:07
  had
• 26:07
  trouble
• 26:07
  booking.
• 26:08
  Does
• 26:08
  that
• 26:08
  mean
• 26:09
  they
• 26:09
  canceled
• 26:10
  their
• 26:10
  vacations
• 26:11
  or
• 26:11
  they
• 26:11
  simply
• 26:12
  couldn't
• 26:12
  get
• 26:13
  their
• 26:13
  first
• 26:13
  choice?
• 26:14
  Cannot
• 26:14
  get
• 26:15
  their
• 26:15
  first
• 26:15
  choice
• 26:16
  because
• 26:16
  campgrounds
• 26:17
  are
• 26:17
  full.
• 26:17
  You
• 26:18
  know,
• 26:18
  state
• 26:18
  parks
• 26:18
  and
• 26:18
  national
• 26:19
  parks
• 26:20
  are
• 26:20
  definitely
• 26:20
  the,
• 26:21
  the,
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  two
• 26:21
  trickiest
• 26:22
  because
• 26:22
  they're
• 26:23
  so
• 26:23
  popular.
• 26:24
  And
• 26:24
  you
• 26:24
  know,
• 26:24
  this
• 26:25
  is
• 26:25
  a
• 26:25
  big
• 26:25
  reason
• 26:25
  that,
• 26:26
  that
• 26:26
  we
• 26:26
  form
• 26:26
  the
• 26:27
  dirt
• 26:27
  is
• 26:28
  because
• 26:28
  we
• 26:28
  have
• 26:29
  state
• 26:29
  parks
• 26:29
  and
• 26:30
  national
• 26:30
  parks,
• 26:31
  but
• 26:31
  we
• 26:31
  also
• 26:31
  have
• 26:32
  all
• 26:32
  the
• 26:33
  private
• 26:33
  land,
• 26:34
  all
• 26:34
  the
• 26:34
  RV
• 26:35
  parks,
• 26:35
  all
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  county
• 26:36
  parks
• 26:37
  and
• 26:37
  all
• 26:37
  the
• 26:37
  free
• 26:37
  camping.
• 26:38
  So
• 26:38
  what
• 26:39
  we
• 26:39
  really
• 26:39
  encourage
• 26:39
  people
• 26:40
  at
• 26:40
  the
• 26:40
  dirt
• 26:40
  to
• 26:41
  do
• 26:41
  is,
• 26:41
  is
• 26:41
  understand
• 26:42
  that
• 26:42
  there
• 26:43
  are
• 26:43
  so
• 26:43
  many
• 26:44
  different
• 26:44
  types
• 26:44
  of
• 26:44
  camping
• 26:45
  if
• 26:45
  you're
• 26:45
  willing
• 26:46
  to
• 26:46
  go
• 26:46
  look
• 26:46
  at
• 26:47
  the
• 26:47
  dirt,
• 26:47
  because
• 26:47
  we
• 26:47
  have
• 26:48
  all
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  inventory
• 26:49
  now.
• 26:49
  You
• 26:49
  don't
• 26:50
  list
• 26:50
  like
• 26:50
  Walmart
• 26:51
  parking
• 26:51
  lots,
• 26:52
  do
• 26:52
  you?
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  remember
• 26:53
  that
• 26:53
  RV
• 26:54
  campers
• 26:54
  always,
• 26:55
  sometimes
• 26:56
  use
• 26:56
  them
• 26:56
  when
• 26:56
  they
• 26:57
  can't
• 26:57
  find
• 26:57
  places
• 26:58
  elsewhere.
• 26:59
  Is
• 26:59
  that
• 26:59
  what
• 26:59
  you're
• 27:00
  talking
• 27:00
  about?
• 27:00
  Or
• 27:01
  different
• 27:01
  types
• 27:01
  of
• 27:02
  private
• 27:02
  land?
• 27:03
  It's
• 27:04
  a
• 27:04
  good
• 27:04
  question.
• 27:04
  There's
• 27:05
  a
• 27:05
  few
• 27:05
  different
• 27:05
  segments
• 27:06
  of
• 27:06
  it.
• 27:06
  So
• 27:06
  one,
• 27:07
  there's
• 27:07
  private
• 27:08
  land
• 27:08
  and
• 27:08
  these
• 27:08
  are
• 27:09
  just
• 27:09
  landowners
• 27:10
  that
• 27:10
  have
• 27:10
  a
• 27:11
  farm
• 27:11
  or
• 27:12
  just
• 27:13
  have
• 27:13
  space.
• 27:13
  And
• 27:14
  they
• 27:14
  decided,
• 27:14
  hey,
• 27:15
  I'm
• 27:15
  Going
• 27:15
  to
• 27:15
  open
• 27:16
  up
• 27:16
  10
• 27:16
  spots
• 27:17
  for
• 27:17
  campers
• 27:18
  that
• 27:18
  want
• 27:18
  to
• 27:19
  camp
• 27:19
  on
• 27:19
  our
• 27:19
  50
• 27:20
  acres
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  land.
• 27:21
  They
• 27:21
  list
• 27:21
  their
• 27:22
  private
• 27:22
  land
• 27:22
  on
• 27:23
  the
• 27:23
  dirt,
• 27:23
  they
• 27:23
  take
• 27:24
  bookings
• 27:24
  and
• 27:25
  they
• 27:25
  essentially
• 27:25
  become
• 27:26
  an
• 27:26
  Airbnb
• 27:27
  campground.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  they're
• 27:28
  listed
• 27:29
  right
• 27:29
  on
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  dirt.
• 27:29
  So
• 27:30
  that's
• 27:30
  private
• 27:30
  land.
• 27:31
  Then
• 27:31
  you
• 27:32
  have
• 27:32
  free
• 27:32
  camping
• 27:33
  on
• 27:33
  any
• 27:34
  Bureau
• 27:34
  of
• 27:34
  Land
• 27:35
  Management
• 27:35
  and
• 27:35
  National
• 27:36
  Forests.
• 27:37
  You
• 27:37
  can
• 27:37
  camp
• 27:37
  anywhere
• 27:38
  for
• 27:38
  free.
• 27:38
  And
• 27:39
  on
• 27:39
  the
• 27:40
  dirt,
• 27:40
  we
• 27:40
  have
• 27:40
  a
• 27:40
  free
• 27:40
  camping
• 27:41
  location
• 27:41
  with
• 27:41
  over
• 27:42
  5,000
• 27:43
  locations
• 27:44
  where
• 27:44
  campers
• 27:45
  have
• 27:45
  stayed
• 27:45
  there,
• 27:46
  taken
• 27:46
  pictures,
• 27:47
  done
• 27:47
  reviews,
• 27:48
  added
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  location.
• 27:49
  So
• 27:49
  you
• 27:50
  don't
• 27:50
  just
• 27:50
  have
• 27:50
  to
• 27:50
  guess
• 27:51
  where
• 27:51
  to
• 27:51
  camp
• 27:51
  on
• 27:52
  federal
• 27:52
  land
• 27:52
  using
• 27:53
  dirt,
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  can
• 27:53
  actually
• 27:54
  see
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  spot.
• 27:55
  And
• 27:55
  then
• 27:55
  the
• 27:56
  last
• 27:56
  category
• 27:57
  on
• 27:57
  that
• 27:57
  free
• 27:57
  camping
• 27:58
  area
• 27:58
  is
• 27:59
  the
• 27:59
  Walmarts,
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  Cracker
• 28:00
  Barrels,
• 28:01
  all
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  places
• 28:02
  that
• 28:02
  allow
• 28:03
  one
• 28:03
  night
• 28:04
  overnight
• 28:04
  for
• 28:05
  free,
• 28:06
  which
• 28:06
  what
• 28:06
  we
• 28:06
  find
• 28:07
  is
• 28:07
  a
• 28:07
  lot
• 28:08
  of
• 28:08
  campers
• 28:08
  use
• 28:08
  those.
• 28:09
  When
• 28:09
  you're
• 28:10
  working
• 28:10
  your
• 28:10
  way
• 28:10
  across
• 28:11
  the
• 28:11
  country
• 28:11
  and
• 28:11
  you
• 28:12
  want
• 28:12
  to
• 28:12
  get
• 28:12
  a
• 28:12
  big
• 28:12
  day
• 28:13
  of
• 28:13
  driving
• 28:13
  in,
• 28:14
  you
• 28:14
  know,
• 28:14
  you're
• 28:14
  pulling
• 28:15
  in
• 28:15
  at
• 28:15
  ten
• 28:15
  o'
• 28:15
  clock
• 28:15
  at
• 28:16
  night,
• 28:16
  you're
• 28:16
  getting
• 28:16
  back
• 28:17
  on
• 28:17
  at
• 28:17
  five
• 28:17
  in
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  morning.
• 28:18
  It's
• 28:19
  pretty
• 28:19
  nice
• 28:19
  to
• 28:19
  be
• 28:19
  able
• 28:19
  to
• 28:20
  pull
• 28:20
  in
• 28:20
  a
• 28:20
  parking
• 28:20
  lot,
• 28:21
  get
• 28:21
  a
• 28:21
  good
• 28:21
  night's
• 28:22
  sleep
• 28:22
  and
• 28:22
  then
• 28:22
  in
• 28:22
  the
• 28:23
  morning,
• 28:23
  you
• 28:23
  know,
• 28:24
  run
• 28:24
  in
• 28:24
  and
• 28:24
  get
• 28:24
  a
• 28:24
  cup
• 28:25
  of
• 28:25
  coffee
• 28:25
  or
• 28:25
  some
• 28:25
  supplies
• 28:26
  and
• 28:26
  you're
• 28:26
  out
• 28:26
  on
• 28:26
  the
• 28:27
  road.
• 28:27
  Right,
• 28:28
  right.
• 28:29
  You
• 28:29
  also
• 28:29
  found
• 28:30
  two
• 28:30
  other
• 28:30
  things
• 28:31
  that
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  think
• 28:31
  bear
• 28:32
  explaining.
• 28:33
  You
• 28:33
  found
• 28:34
  that
• 28:34
  short
• 28:35
  term
• 28:35
  cancellations
• 28:37
  are
• 28:37
  up
• 28:37
  and
• 28:38
  that
• 28:38
  more
• 28:38
  people
• 28:39
  are
• 28:39
  leaving
• 28:40
  early.
• 28:41
  So
• 28:41
  what
• 28:41
  do
• 28:41
  you
• 28:42
  think
• 28:42
  that
• 28:42
  means
• 28:43
  in
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  larger
• 28:44
  scope
• 28:44
  of
• 28:44
  things?
• 28:45
  You
• 28:45
  know,
• 28:45
  there's
• 28:46
  a
• 28:46
  couple
• 28:46
  things.
• 28:47
  First
• 28:47
  thing
• 28:47
  is
• 28:48
  etiquette.
• 28:48
  Right.
• 28:49
  And
• 28:49
  so
• 28:49
  we
• 28:49
  always
• 28:49
  look
• 28:50
  at
• 28:50
  etiquette
• 28:50
  and
• 28:50
  we
• 28:51
  survey
• 28:51
  etiquette
• 28:51
  every
• 28:51
  year
• 28:52
  on
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  dirt.
• 28:53
  What
• 28:53
  we
• 28:53
  found
• 28:53
  is
• 28:54
  that
• 28:54
  73%
• 28:55
  of
• 28:55
  campers
• 28:56
  used
• 28:56
  all
• 28:56
  their
• 28:57
  reservations.
• 28:58
  That's
• 28:59
  pretty
• 28:59
  good.
• 28:59
  And
• 29:00
  this
• 29:00
  number
• 29:00
  has
• 29:01
  actually
• 29:01
  been
• 29:01
  increasing
• 29:02
  the
• 29:02
  last
• 29:03
  three
• 29:03
  years
• 29:03
  in
• 29:04
  a
• 29:04
  row.
• 29:05
  So
• 29:05
  I
• 29:05
  think
• 29:05
  there
• 29:06
  is
• 29:06
  a
• 29:06
  little
• 29:06
  bit
• 29:07
  more
• 29:07
  awareness
• 29:07
  coming
• 29:08
  in
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  camping
• 29:08
  category
• 29:09
  that
• 29:09
  like,
• 29:09
  hey,
• 29:10
  a
• 29:10
  lot
• 29:10
  of
• 29:10
  these
• 29:11
  reservations
• 29:11
  are
• 29:11
  hard
• 29:11
  to
• 29:12
  get.
• 29:12
  People
• 29:12
  want
• 29:12
  them.
• 29:13
  If
• 29:13
  you're
• 29:13
  not
• 29:13
  going
• 29:13
  to
• 29:14
  use
• 29:14
  them,
• 29:14
  you
• 29:14
  should
• 29:15
  cancel
• 29:15
  them.
• 29:15
  Right.
• 29:16
  No,
• 29:16
  shows
• 29:17
  were
• 29:18
  down
• 29:18
  5%,
• 29:19
  but
• 29:20
  short
• 29:20
  term
• 29:20
  notice
• 29:21
  cancellations,
• 29:21
  you're
• 29:22
  right,
• 29:22
  we're
• 29:23
  up
• 29:23
  22%.
• 29:25
  So
• 29:25
  we're
• 29:25
  not
• 29:25
  quite
• 29:25
  sure
• 29:26
  why
• 29:26
  that
• 29:26
  happened
• 29:27
  this
• 29:27
  year.
• 29:27
  This
• 29:27
  is
• 29:27
  a
• 29:27
  little
• 29:28
  bit
• 29:28
  of
• 29:28
  an
• 29:28
  anomaly
• 29:28
  of
• 29:28
  our
• 29:29
  stats.
• 29:29
  Right.
• 29:30
  But
• 29:30
  these
• 29:31
  last
• 29:31
  minute
• 29:31
  cancellations
• 29:32
  are
• 29:32
  up.
• 29:32
  Now
• 29:33
  what's
• 29:33
  nice
• 29:33
  about
• 29:34
  it
• 29:34
  is
• 29:34
  the
• 29:35
  cancellations
• 29:35
  are
• 29:36
  happening
• 29:36
  because
• 29:37
  cancellations
• 29:37
  are
• 29:38
  better
• 29:38
  than
• 29:38
  no
• 29:38
  shows.
• 29:39
  Sure.
• 29:39
  Because
• 29:40
  people
• 29:40
  can
• 29:40
  still
• 29:40
  get
• 29:41
  those
• 29:41
  reservations.
• 29:42
  Can
• 29:42
  people
• 29:43
  still
• 29:43
  get
• 29:43
  the
• 29:43
  reservations
• 29:44
  if
• 29:44
  somebody
• 29:45
  leaves
• 29:45
  early
• 29:46
  or
• 29:46
  Is
• 29:47
  that
• 29:47
  another
• 29:47
  etiquette
• 29:48
  issue?
• 29:49
  That's
• 29:49
  another
• 29:49
  etiquette
• 29:50
  issue.
• 29:50
  That's
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  same
• 29:51
  as
• 29:51
  not
• 29:51
  using
• 29:51
  a
• 29:51
  reservation
• 29:52
  in
• 29:52
  our
• 29:52
  eyes.
• 29:54
  Now
• 29:54
  we
• 29:55
  know
• 29:55
  or
• 29:55
  we
• 29:55
  don't
• 29:56
  know,
• 29:57
  but
• 29:57
  a
• 29:57
  lot
• 29:57
  of
• 29:57
  people
• 29:58
  are
• 29:59
  looking
• 29:59
  at
• 30:00
  signs
• 30:01
  that
• 30:01
  the
• 30:01
  economy
• 30:02
  may
• 30:02
  be
• 30:03
  slowing
• 30:04
  down.
• 30:05
  Will
• 30:06
  that
• 30:06
  affect
• 30:07
  camping?
• 30:07
  Will
• 30:08
  people
• 30:08
  still
• 30:09
  take
• 30:09
  these
• 30:09
  types
• 30:09
  of
• 30:10
  vacations
• 30:10
  or
• 30:11
  is
• 30:11
  this
• 30:11
  the
• 30:12
  type
• 30:12
  of
• 30:13
  non
• 30:13
  necessary
• 30:14
  expenditure
• 30:15
  that
• 30:15
  people
• 30:15
  are
• 30:16
  going
• 30:16
  to
• 30:16
  cut
• 30:16
  back
• 30:16
  on,
• 30:16
  do
• 30:17
  you
• 30:17
  think?
• 30:18
  Well,
• 30:18
  camping
• 30:18
  has
• 30:18
  been
• 30:19
  proven
• 30:19
  over
• 30:19
  and
• 30:19
  over
• 30:20
  again
• 30:20
  to
• 30:20
  be
• 30:20
  recession
• 30:21
  proof.
• 30:21
  On
• 30:21
  a
• 30:21
  down
• 30:22
  economy,
• 30:22
  camping
• 30:23
  goes
• 30:23
  up.
• 30:23
  You
• 30:24
  don't
• 30:24
  get
• 30:24
  on
• 30:24
  those
• 30:24
  airplanes
• 30:25
  with
• 30:25
  the
• 30:25
  whole
• 30:25
  family.
• 30:27
  You
• 30:27
  don't
• 30:27
  have
• 30:27
  those
• 30:28
  expensive
• 30:28
  hotels.
• 30:29
  Camping
• 30:30
  is
• 30:30
  one
• 30:30
  of
• 30:30
  the
• 30:30
  most
• 30:30
  affordable
• 30:31
  vacations
• 30:32
  you
• 30:32
  can
• 30:33
  go
• 30:33
  on.
• 30:34
  And
• 30:34
  it's
• 30:34
  even
• 30:34
  more
• 30:35
  affordable
• 30:36
  if
• 30:36
  you
• 30:36
  leverage
• 30:37
  free
• 30:37
  camping.
• 30:37
  You
• 30:38
  know,
• 30:38
  in
• 30:38
  the
• 30:38
  United
• 30:39
  States
• 30:39
  we
• 30:40
  have
• 30:40
  an
• 30:41
  unbelievable
• 30:42
  amount
• 30:42
  of
• 30:43
  epic,
• 30:43
  epic
• 30:44
  Bureau
• 30:44
  of
• 30:44
  Land
• 30:44
  Management
• 30:45
  property
• 30:45
  that
• 30:46
  you
• 30:46
  can
• 30:46
  camp
• 30:46
  anywhere
• 30:47
  for
• 30:47
  free.
• 30:48
  Right.
• 30:49
  And
• 30:49
  our
• 30:49
  survey
• 30:50
  at
• 30:50
  the
• 30:50
  Dirt
• 30:50
  this
• 30:50
  year
• 30:51
  showed
• 30:51
  that
• 30:51
  60%
• 30:52
  of
• 30:52
  all
• 30:52
  campers
• 30:53
  have
• 30:53
  camped
• 30:54
  for
• 30:54
  free
• 30:55
  at
• 30:55
  least
• 30:56
  once.
• 30:57
  80%
• 30:58
  of
• 30:58
  those
• 30:59
  actually
• 30:59
  went
• 31:00
  on
• 31:00
  dispersed
• 31:00
  land.
• 31:01
  So
• 31:01
  not
• 31:01
  just
• 31:01
  staying
• 31:01
  at
• 31:02
  Walmarts,
• 31:02
  but
• 31:03
  actually
• 31:03
  going
• 31:03
  out
• 31:04
  on
• 31:04
  dispersed
• 31:04
  land.
• 31:05
  The,
• 31:06
  the
• 31:06
  free
• 31:06
  camping
• 31:07
  on
• 31:07
  dispersed
• 31:07
  land
• 31:07
  too.
• 31:08
  I
• 31:09
  can't.
• 31:09
  Can
• 31:09
  you
• 31:09
  define
• 31:10
  dispersed
• 31:11
  land?
• 31:11
  Yeah,
• 31:12
  dispersed.
• 31:13
  I
• 31:14
  should
• 31:14
  say
• 31:14
  dispersed
• 31:15
  camping
• 31:15
  on
• 31:16
  Bureau
• 31:16
  of
• 31:17
  Land
• 31:17
  Management
• 31:17
  property.
• 31:18
  Oh,
• 31:18
  I
• 31:18
  see.
• 31:19
  Okay.
• 31:19
  Yeah.
• 31:20
  So
• 31:20
  dispersed
• 31:21
  camping
• 31:21
  is
• 31:21
  what
• 31:21
  I
• 31:21
  meant.
• 31:22
  I
• 31:23
  think
• 31:23
  about
• 31:23
  where
• 31:23
  I've
• 31:23
  gone.
• 31:24
  I've
• 31:24
  gone
• 31:24
  on
• 31:24
  Bureau
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  Land
• 31:25
  Management
• 31:25
  property.
• 31:26
  I've
• 31:27
  driven
• 31:27
  up
• 31:28
  on
• 31:28
  dirt
• 31:28
  roads
• 31:29
  and
• 31:29
  back
• 31:29
  roads
• 31:30
  and
• 31:30
  you
• 31:30
  go
• 31:30
  up
• 31:30
  to
• 31:30
  a
• 31:30
  winding
• 31:31
  mountain
• 31:31
  and
• 31:32
  I
• 31:32
  come
• 31:32
  through
• 31:32
  like
• 31:33
  an
• 31:33
  opening
• 31:34
  and
• 31:34
  boom.
• 31:35
  All
• 31:35
  of
• 31:35
  a
• 31:35
  sudden
• 31:36
  I'm
• 31:36
  at
• 31:36
  the
• 31:36
  top
• 31:36
  of
• 31:36
  this
• 31:37
  huge
• 31:37
  hill
• 31:38
  that
• 31:38
  was
• 31:38
  like
• 31:39
  a
• 31:39
  rock
• 31:39
  quarry
• 31:41
  probably
• 31:42
  from
• 31:42
  50
• 31:42
  years
• 31:43
  ago
• 31:43
  that
• 31:43
  hasn't
• 31:43
  been
• 31:44
  touched.
• 31:44
  And
• 31:44
  imagine
• 31:45
  the
• 31:45
  size
• 31:45
  of
• 31:46
  almost
• 31:46
  a
• 31:46
  football
• 31:47
  field.
• 31:48
  And
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  am
• 31:49
  up
• 31:49
  there
• 31:49
  by
• 31:50
  myself
• 31:51
  for
• 31:51
  four
• 31:52
  days
• 31:53
  raising,
• 31:53
  yeah,
• 31:54
  camping.
• 31:55
  And
• 31:55
  that's
• 31:55
  free,
• 31:56
  right.
• 31:56
  We
• 31:56
  pay
• 31:57
  for
• 31:57
  that
• 31:57
  with
• 31:57
  our
• 31:57
  taxes
• 31:58
  to
• 31:58
  have
• 31:58
  this
• 31:58
  land,
• 31:59
  to
• 31:59
  have
• 31:59
  this
• 31:59
  beautiful
• 32:00
  country.
• 32:00
  And
• 32:01
  I,
• 32:01
  and
• 32:01
  I.
• 32:01
  If
• 32:02
  I
• 32:02
  had
• 32:02
  to
• 32:02
  make
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  prediction
• 32:04
  of
• 32:04
  the
• 32:04
  future,
• 32:05
  I
• 32:05
  would
• 32:05
  think
• 32:05
  that
• 32:06
  free
• 32:06
  camping
• 32:07
  is
• 32:07
  going
• 32:07
  to
• 32:07
  have
• 32:07
  a
• 32:07
  big
• 32:07
  surge
• 32:08
  this
• 32:08
  next
• 32:08
  year
• 32:09
  because
• 32:09
  of
• 32:09
  the
• 32:09
  things
• 32:10
  we're
• 32:10
  going
• 32:10
  to
• 32:10
  be
• 32:10
  going
• 32:10
  through
• 32:10
  with
• 32:10
  the
• 32:11
  economy.
• 32:11
  Right.
• 32:12
  One
• 32:12
  last
• 32:12
  question.
• 32:13
  I'm
• 32:13
  going
• 32:13
  to
• 32:14
  be
• 32:14
  on
• 32:14
  the
• 32:14
  Kelly
• 32:15
  and
• 32:15
  Mark
• 32:15
  show
• 32:16
  Thursday.
• 32:17
  We're
• 32:17
  talking
• 32:17
  about
• 32:18
  affordable
• 32:19
  beach
• 32:19
  vacations.
• 32:21
  Does
• 32:21
  camping
• 32:22
  out
• 32:23
  change
• 32:24
  in
• 32:24
  the
• 32:24
  summer?
• 32:25
  Do
• 32:25
  people
• 32:26
  need
• 32:26
  to
• 32:26
  take
• 32:26
  anything
• 32:27
  into
• 32:27
  account
• 32:28
  if
• 32:28
  they're
• 32:28
  going
• 32:28
  to
• 32:29
  a
• 32:29
  beachy
• 32:30
  destination
• 32:30
  that
• 32:31
  they
• 32:31
  don't
• 32:31
  need
• 32:31
  to
• 32:31
  for
• 32:32
  other
• 32:32
  types
• 32:32
  of
• 32:32
  destinations?
• 32:34
  Reserve
• 32:34
  in
• 32:35
  advance.
• 32:37
  You
• 32:37
  know,
• 32:37
  when
• 32:37
  you
• 32:37
  look
• 32:38
  at
• 32:38
  beach,
• 32:39
  a
• 32:39
  lot
• 32:39
  of
• 32:40
  beach
• 32:40
  Properties
• 32:41
  are
• 32:42
  state
• 32:42
  parks
• 32:43
  along
• 32:43
  the
• 32:44
  actual
• 32:45
  ocean
• 32:46
  fronts.
• 32:47
  Those
• 32:47
  book
• 32:48
  way
• 32:48
  in
• 32:48
  advance.
• 32:49
  So
• 32:49
  that's
• 32:49
  one
• 32:49
  thing
• 32:49
  that
• 32:50
  you
• 32:50
  want
• 32:50
  to
• 32:50
  be
• 32:50
  looking
• 32:50
  at.
• 32:51
  Another
• 32:51
  thing
• 32:52
  that
• 32:52
  users
• 32:52
  can
• 32:52
  think
• 32:53
  about
• 32:53
  is
• 32:53
  on
• 32:53
  the
• 32:54
  dirt.
• 32:54
  We
• 32:54
  have
• 32:54
  the
• 32:54
  dirt
• 32:55
  alerts
• 32:55
  where
• 32:56
  you
• 32:56
  can
• 32:56
  get
• 32:56
  reservations
• 32:57
  at
• 32:57
  sold
• 32:57
  out
• 32:58
  campgrounds.
• 32:58
  So
• 32:59
  you
• 32:59
  can
• 32:59
  say,
• 32:59
  I
• 33:00
  want
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  go
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  that
• 33:01
  state
• 33:01
  park
• 33:01
  on
• 33:02
  that
• 33:02
  beach
• 33:02
  on
• 33:02
  these
• 33:03
  dates.
• 33:04
  And
• 33:04
  we
• 33:04
  will
• 33:05
  sit
• 33:05
  there
• 33:05
  and
• 33:05
  ping
• 33:06
  the
• 33:06
  reservation
• 33:07
  system
• 33:07
  every
• 33:07
  five
• 33:08
  minutes.
• 33:08
  And
• 33:08
  as
• 33:09
  soon
• 33:09
  as
• 33:09
  someone
• 33:09
  cancels,
• 33:10
  we
• 33:11
  send
• 33:11
  you
• 33:11
  a
• 33:11
  text.
• 33:11
  Hey,
• 33:12
  Pauline,
• 33:12
  the
• 33:12
  campground
• 33:13
  you
• 33:13
  wanted
• 33:13
  on
• 33:13
  the
• 33:14
  dates
• 33:14
  you
• 33:14
  wanted
• 33:14
  just
• 33:15
  opened
• 33:15
  up.
• 33:15
  Go
• 33:15
  book
• 33:16
  it.
• 33:16
  So
• 33:17
  there
• 33:17
  is.
• 33:17
  Even
• 33:18
  though
• 33:18
  things
• 33:18
  look
• 33:19
  full,
• 33:20
  people
• 33:20
  all
• 33:20
  the
• 33:21
  time
• 33:21
  are
• 33:21
  getting
• 33:21
  dirt
• 33:22
  alerts
• 33:22
  through
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  dirt.
• 33:23
  The
• 33:24
  other
• 33:24
  thing
• 33:24
  I
• 33:25
  would
• 33:25
  say
• 33:25
  for
• 33:25
  your
• 33:26
  readers
• 33:26
  and
• 33:26
  viewers
• 33:27
  to
• 33:27
  think
• 33:27
  about
• 33:28
  is
• 33:29
  people
• 33:29
  underestimate
• 33:30
  the
• 33:31
  power
• 33:31
  of
• 33:31
  these
• 33:31
  private
• 33:32
  landowner
• 33:33
  properties
• 33:34
  and
• 33:34
  we
• 33:35
  have
• 33:35
  thousands
• 33:36
  and
• 33:36
  thousands
• 33:37
  of
• 33:37
  them
• 33:37
  on
• 33:37
  the
• 33:37
  dirt.
• 33:38
  And
• 33:38
  if
• 33:38
  that
• 33:38
  state
• 33:38
  park
• 33:39
  is
• 33:39
  full,
• 33:39
  I
• 33:40
  bet
• 33:40
  you
• 33:41
  five
• 33:41
  miles
• 33:41
  down
• 33:42
  the
• 33:42
  road
• 33:43
  right
• 33:43
  on
• 33:43
  the
• 33:43
  ocean
• 33:44
  is
• 33:44
  someone
• 33:44
  who
• 33:44
  owns
• 33:45
  private
• 33:45
  land
• 33:45
  and
• 33:46
  they're
• 33:46
  renting
• 33:47
  it
• 33:47
  out
• 33:47
  to
• 33:47
  campers
• 33:48
  for
• 33:48
  20
• 33:48
  bucks
• 33:48
  a
• 33:48
  night,
• 33:49
  you
• 33:49
  know,
• 33:50
  so
• 33:50
  really
• 33:50
  encourage
• 33:51
  people.
• 33:51
  If
• 33:51
  you
• 33:51
  want
• 33:52
  to
• 33:52
  go
• 33:52
  hit
• 33:52
  that
• 33:52
  beach
• 33:52
  vacation,
• 33:53
  check
• 33:53
  out
• 33:54
  that,
• 33:54
  check
• 33:55
  out
• 33:55
  private
• 33:55
  property
• 33:56
  land
• 33:56
  as
• 33:56
  well.
• 33:57
  Very
• 33:57
  cool.
• 33:58
  Well,
• 33:58
  thank
• 33:58
  you
• 33:59
  so
• 33:59
  much,
• 33:59
  Kevin.
• 34:00
  Always
• 34:00
  such
• 34:00
  a
• 34:00
  delight
• 34:01
  speaking
• 34:01
  with
• 34:01
  you.
• 34:02
  Great
• 34:02
  to
• 34:03
  talk
• 34:03
  to
• 34:03
  you.
• 34:04
  And
• 34:04
  that
• 34:04
  is
• 34:04
  it
• 34:05
  for
• 34:05
  this
• 34:05
  week's
• 34:06
  show.
• 34:06
  If
• 34:06
  you've
• 34:06
  enjoyed
• 34:07
  what
• 34:07
  you've
• 34:07
  heard,
• 34:07
  I
• 34:08
  hope
• 34:08
  you'll
• 34:08
  give
• 34:08
  us
• 34:08
  a
• 34:08
  five
• 34:09
  star
• 34:09
  rating.
• 34:10
  If
• 34:10
  you
• 34:10
  haven't,
• 34:11
  well,
• 34:11
  nice
• 34:11
  knowing
• 34:11
  you.
• 34:13
  And
• 34:13
  I
• 34:13
  thank
• 34:13
  you
• 34:14
  all
• 34:14
  for
• 34:14
  listening
• 34:16
  to
• 34:16
  those
• 34:16
  who
• 34:16
  are
• 34:17
  traveling.
• 34:17
  May
• 34:17
  I
• 34:18
  wish
• 34:18
  you
• 34:18
  a
• 34:18
  hearty
• 34:19
  bon
• 34:20
  voyage.
• 34:33
  Sour
• 34:33
  candy
• 34:34
  on
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  table.
• 34:37
  Lazy
• 34:38
  afternoons
• 34:39
  in
• 34:40
  your
• 34:40
  sweatpants
• 34:41
  watching
• 34:41
  cable
• 34:44
  well,
• 34:44
  it
• 34:44
  feels
• 34:45
  so
• 34:45
  far
• 34:46
  away.
• 34:49
  All.
• 34:49
  The
• 34:49
  channels
• 34:50
  seem
• 34:51
  the
• 34:51
  same.
• 34:53
  Trying
• 34:54
  to
• 34:54
  remember
• 34:56
  all
• 34:56
  the
• 34:56
  time
• 34:57
  Songs
• 34:57
  we
• 34:57
  like
• 34:57
  to
• 34:58
  play.
• 34:58
  Cause
• 34:59
  those
• 34:59
  lazy
• 35:00
  afternoons
• 35:01
  don't
• 35:01
  come
• 35:02
  so
• 35:02
  frequently
• 35:03
  these
• 35:03
  days.
• 35:05
  Oh,
• 35:06
  it's
• 35:06
  been
• 35:07
  so
• 35:08
  long
• 35:09
  and
• 35:09
  I
• 35:09
  cannot
• 35:10
  help
• 35:10
  but
• 35:11
  wonder
• 35:12
  Are
• 35:12
  you
• 35:12
  ever
• 35:13
  coming
• 35:14
  home?
• 35:14
  I
• 35:15
  like
• 35:15
  you
• 35:15
  with
• 35:16
  your
• 35:16
  sour
• 35:16
  candy
• 35:17
  in
• 35:17
  the
• 35:18
  boat
• 35:18
  house
• 35:18
  on
• 35:19
  the
• 35:19
  lake.
• 35:20
  Oh,
• 35:20
  but
• 35:20
  I
• 35:21
  hate,
• 35:21
  I
• 35:21
  hate
• 35:22
  I,
• 35:22
  I
• 35:22
  hate,
• 35:22
  I
• 35:22
  hate,
• 35:23
  I
• 35:23
  hate,
• 35:24
  I
• 35:25
  hate
• 35:25
  the
• 35:25
  way
• 35:25
  it
• 35:26
  takes.
• 35:37
  I
• 35:38
  can't
• 35:38
  get
• 35:38
  you
• 35:39
  off
• 35:39
  of
• 35:39
  my
• 35:40
  mind
• 35:42
  Looking
• 35:43
  out
• 35:43
  the
• 35:43
  window
• 35:44
  where
• 35:44
  we
• 35:45
  spend
• 35:45
  so
• 35:45
  much
• 35:45
  of
• 35:46
  our
• 35:46
  time.
• 35:48
  Cause
• 35:49
  I
• 35:49
  miss
• 35:49
  the
• 35:49
  way
• 35:50
  it
• 35:50
  felt.
• 35:52
  But
• 35:53
  I
• 35:53
  guess
• 35:53
  you
• 35:53
  can't
• 35:54
  control
• 35:54
  those
• 35:55
  damn
• 35:55
  cards
• 35:56
  with
• 35:58
  Babe.
• 35:59
  I
• 35:59
  know
• 35:59
  that
• 36:00
  both
• 36:00
  of
• 36:00
  us
• 36:00
  are
• 36:01
  happy
• 36:02
  when
• 36:02
  we're
• 36:02
  free.
• 36:03
  But
• 36:04
  would
• 36:04
  it
• 36:04
  be
• 36:05
  so
• 36:05
  hard
• 36:05
  to
• 36:06
  find
• 36:06
  your
• 36:07
  freedom
• 36:07
  here
• 36:07
  with
• 36:08
  me?
• 36:10
  Oh,
• 36:11
  it's
• 36:11
  been
• 36:12
  so
• 36:12
  long
• 36:14
  and
• 36:14
  I
• 36:14
  cannot
• 36:15
  help
• 36:15
  but
• 36:16
  wonder
• 36:16
  Are
• 36:17
  you
• 36:17
  ever
• 36:17
  coming
• 36:18
  home?
• 36:19
  I
• 36:19
  like
• 36:20
  you
• 36:20
  with
• 36:20
  your
• 36:20
  sour
• 36:21
  candy
• 36:22
  in
• 36:22
  the
• 36:22
  boat
• 36:23
  house
• 36:23
  on
• 36:23
  the
• 36:24
  lake.
• 36:25
  But
• 36:25
  I
• 36:25
  hate,
• 36:26
  I
• 36:26
  hate,
• 36:26
  I
• 36:27
  hate,
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  hate,
• 36:27
  I
• 36:28
  hate,
• 36:29
  I
• 36:29
  hate
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  way
• 36:30
  it
• 36:30
  takes.