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Teen girl shoots abusive sex trafficker, burns home, claims self-defense · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: You know, it's certainly a shock when you think that
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  Speaker 1: someone died in a home fire, and then when the
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  Speaker 1: autopsy comes back gunshot wound. That's certainly a kick in
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  Speaker 1: the pants. What happened to thirty four year old Randy
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  Speaker 1: Volare Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The fire, I guess
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  Speaker 1: that's in the corner of seventy eighth Street and fourteenth
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  Speaker 1: Avenue was on fire? Yes, do you see flames? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Everything does No? What's his name? I just guess I
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  Speaker 1: know when it was in the house. I don't know nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I vantis nos in what blame? What? What corner of
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  Speaker 1: the streets is in? From seventy fourteen seven corner north
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  Speaker 1: southeast west? This is best? Okay? Door open? Yeah? I
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  Speaker 1: then was I was looking for binbo and so looks
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  Speaker 1: the same and then open the door. Okay, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I Meancy Grace, this is crime story. So what did
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  Speaker 1: happen to thirty four year old Randy Volar? Ostensibly a
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  Speaker 1: fire there in Kenosha, Wisconsin, but then after the autopsy
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  Speaker 1: we find out it is anything but. Joining me an
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  Speaker 1: all star panel judge, trial lawyer, anchor, Court TV at
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcot dot com Ashley Wilcot twenty seven years Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: a major k SWAT officer, now lawyer, James shell Nutt,
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  Speaker 1: Karen Smith, forensics expert, founder of Beer Bones Consulting for Now.
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  Speaker 1: Medical examiner from the State of Florida, Doctor Tim Gallagher
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  Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrists, and boy do we need a shrink? You
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  Speaker 1: can find him on ig Instagram, doctor Dangel Bober and
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  Speaker 1: right now to Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Levi Page.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just start at the beginning. So, Nancy, on the
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  Speaker 1: night of June fifth, twenty eighteen, a fire erupted in
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  Speaker 1: the home of Kenosha, Wisconsin and a man was found
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  Speaker 1: inside dead, shot in the head twice. Okay, now what
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  Speaker 1: I'm always shocked to Doctor Tim Gallagher, medical examiner, State
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  Speaker 1: of Florida. EMTs and fire tricks arrive on the scene.
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  Speaker 1: You expect the victim to be carried out on a
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  Speaker 1: stretcher if you can find the victim in a fire scene,
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  Speaker 1: but no one typically knows when the body is totally burned,
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  Speaker 1: whether they died or smoke inhalation where they were burned
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  Speaker 1: to death with a fast moving eccelerant like Amolotov cocktail,
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  Speaker 1: where they strangled or asphyxiated. Were they shot where they stepped?
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to tell when the body is being consumed
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  Speaker 1: with flames. If the body was in fact shot, then
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  Speaker 1: tell me how do you determine that? Well, every fire
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  Speaker 1: victim is x rayed athematical Examiner's office at the very
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  Speaker 1: least if they're not put in a cat scanner, and
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  Speaker 1: the bullets which are metallic will show up on the
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  Speaker 1: cat scan And if we determine that there are bullets
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  Speaker 1: inside the head or inside any of the vital organs,
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  Speaker 1: then we could determine that that was probably the cause
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  Speaker 1: of death and that that the person was dead before
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  Speaker 1: the fire started. We also have to look at the
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  Speaker 1: lungs and if there's smoke and soot within the lungs,
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  Speaker 1: then we know that the person was alive. But if
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  Speaker 1: there is smoke, but if there's no sign of smoke
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  Speaker 1: or fire damage inside the lungs, then we know that
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  Speaker 1: that person was dead before the fire started. So if
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  Speaker 1: a body is totally consumed with fire, do the bones
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  Speaker 1: burn as well? Doctor? The bones do burn, but they
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  Speaker 1: do not burn to becoming unidentifiable. They do char Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: there are fractures in the bones, but for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: unless the fire is going on for hours and hours,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, eight or nine hours, there will be some
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  Speaker 1: bones recognizable that we could use for identification, the bones
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  Speaker 1: as well as the chief. Interesting because in the Hallback
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  Speaker 1: Teresa Hallback case, where I know you all are familiar
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  Speaker 1: with to make a murderer regarding the death of amateur, well,
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  Speaker 1: she's a professional photographer, Teresa Hallback. Her bones were gone.
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  Speaker 1: She had been stirred in a fire pit for hours
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  Speaker 1: and hours and hours. But doctor Gallo, they did find
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  Speaker 1: her teeth. Now, how is it Teeth survived? But bones
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  Speaker 1: do not. Teeth have a property that are unique to them.
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  Speaker 1: It's the type of enamel that surrounds them and that
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  Speaker 1: protects them much longer from fire than a typical bone would.
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  Speaker 1: So teeth with good enamel, or sometimes teeth that have
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  Speaker 1: metallic fillings or restorations, do survive a fire much longer
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  Speaker 1: than that of regular bones. All the things you never
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  Speaker 1: wonder because it's so in depth, suddenly take on major
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  Speaker 1: significance at a homicide scene. To Ashley Wilcott, judge and
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  Speaker 1: trial lawyer anchor Court TV, Ashley, here's the kicker. So
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  Speaker 1: if this guy thirty four year old Randy Volar was
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  Speaker 1: actually shot twice, and Gallagher is telling us, you find
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  Speaker 1: that out if the body is consumed with flames by
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  Speaker 1: a cat scan or X rays, you find bullets and
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  Speaker 1: what's left to the body. That mays that someone not
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  Speaker 1: only murdered him, but that they also at too great
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  Speaker 1: great measures to dispose of evidence. Ashley, that matters at
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  Speaker 1: trial absolutely, because, as you just pointed out, if you
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  Speaker 1: have a victim who's been shot, then you have evidence
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  Speaker 1: that you can take from the crime scene, which includes
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  Speaker 1: the angle of the shot, what he was shot with,
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  Speaker 1: if there's blood spatter or not in the house or
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  Speaker 1: wherever the person was shot. When you light a fire
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  Speaker 1: and burn not only the body, you burn all of
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  Speaker 1: that other evidence that law enforcement uses to tell the
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  Speaker 1: story of what really happened to James shell nutt twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven years Atlanta Metro Major k SWAT officer now lawyer
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  Speaker 1: James shellnut How many times have you been to a
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  Speaker 1: scene you think, well, here's the house fire, he died
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  Speaker 1: of smoke inhalation, and then you find out, bam, he's
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  Speaker 1: got two bullets to the head. Oh yeah, it happens.
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  Speaker 1: A matter of fact, one of the common ways is
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  Speaker 1: you know, Nancy, is that people do set fires to houses.
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  Speaker 1: They put people in automobiles and set those on fire,
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  Speaker 1: and fire does destroy a good bit of evidence sometimes
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  Speaker 1: and it does create a little bit of a roadblock
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  Speaker 1: to investigating exactly what occurred. You know, in this case
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  Speaker 1: there was there was enough evidence to determine a cause
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  Speaker 1: of death. But in some cases it makes it difficult,
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  Speaker 1: especially in strangling cases and things that make you know.
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  Speaker 1: What we know about Kenosha is it's a Wisconsin city
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  Speaker 1: right there on Lake Michigan. They have a beautiful waterfront
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  Speaker 1: in Kenosha. People love to go live there. And a
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  Speaker 1: big question is Kenosha, Wisconsin safe? Here's what we know.
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  Speaker 1: The chance of becoming a victim of either violent or
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  Speaker 1: property crime in Kenosha is one in forty five. Okay. Now,
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  Speaker 1: relative to Wisconsin, it's got a crime rate a little
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  Speaker 1: bit higher than most of the state. But in the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the world, you compare that to Atlanta, Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: New York, Baltimore, DC. It's heaven on earth. So we
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  Speaker 1: know this goes down in Kenosha, Wisconsin. What else do
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  Speaker 1: we know about the area? Levi Page. We know, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: that it's about forty miles away from Milwaukee, which is
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  Speaker 1: a big metropolitan area with a pretty big crime rate there. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: close to a heavy crime area. To Karen Smith, let's
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  Speaker 1: circle back to the scene. The house set on fire,
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  Speaker 1: the body's been set on fire or has been burned.
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  Speaker 1: Karen Smith, forensics expert, founder Brett Bones Consulting. What do
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  Speaker 1: you do with a fire scene. I've handled a lot
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  Speaker 1: of arson cases, which they are a specialty in themselves, Karen,
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  Speaker 1: Because first of all, let's pretend he wasn't shot in
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  Speaker 1: the head. You come upon an arson, you've got a
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  Speaker 1: first proof there was a crime, because typically you don't
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  Speaker 1: assume a crime has been committed. You have to find
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  Speaker 1: evidence a crime occurs, such as an accelerant pattern on
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  Speaker 1: the floor, tampering with electrical devices, evidence of the throwing
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  Speaker 1: molotov cocktail matches. Even it's pretty easy to determine where
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  Speaker 1: in the home the fire started because that area, it's
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  Speaker 1: visible to the naked. I've seen it one hundred times,
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  Speaker 1: is more burned out. You can see where a fire started.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to be an expert for that. But
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  Speaker 1: how do you process a fire scene? Karen Smith? It's
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  Speaker 1: very complicated, Nancy. Fire scenes are difficult. Yes, we look
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  Speaker 1: for accelerance. There are actually accelerant sniffers that most fire
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  Speaker 1: departments have their portable devices. You can bring in and
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  Speaker 1: actually sniff with this device for accelerance in certain area. WHOA,
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  Speaker 1: what about a good old fire dog too, You can
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  Speaker 1: bring in an accelerant sniffing dog. We have all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of tools. But once we find an accelerant, if that's present,
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  Speaker 1: then we know it's arson. If it's not, and in
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  Speaker 1: this case, I don't know if an accelerate it was
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  Speaker 1: you guys. So we're saying accelerant or saying accelerant. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking about kerosening, gasoline, acetone, anything they'll catch on fire absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: And if we don't find that, then we start looking
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  Speaker 1: for electrical wiring. There are a specific fire marshals that
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  Speaker 1: come in and can look at the wiring. They can
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  Speaker 1: look at the house that closed dryers or notorious ovens,
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  Speaker 1: notorious for that kind of thing. If we don't find
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  Speaker 1: those kinds of things, then what we have to do
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  Speaker 1: is we have to do a layer pull of every
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  Speaker 1: single bit of evidence in there. You start with the
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  Speaker 1: top layer. You sist that out you collect what you
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  Speaker 1: think is important. You collect samples from all of that,
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  Speaker 1: pieces of burned wood, pieces of the carpeting, pieces of
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  Speaker 1: the wall, all of that has to be collected in
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  Speaker 1: sealed cans, and then those are taken to the laboratory
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  Speaker 1: and there are specific instruments that can measure the any
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  Speaker 1: accelerants that are present in those areas. The body itself,
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  Speaker 1: as the doctor explained, that in itself is a crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: So that's done down at the medical examiner's office. The
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  Speaker 1: rest of the evidence, if it's just limited to one
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  Speaker 1: room in the house, that's fine. You look in other
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  Speaker 1: parts of the house for any evidence that may be
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  Speaker 1: part of a crime scene. If that's what you're dealing with,
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  Speaker 1: you look in bedrooms, You look in bathrooms, other places
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  Speaker 1: that may have soot damage but are not completely burned.
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  Speaker 1: You know, interesting, you said the addence is taken away
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  Speaker 1: and a sealed can. If you go buy everything see
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  Speaker 1: on TV, evidence is put in plastic bags or manila bags.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you say sealed can? And you're absolutely correct
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  Speaker 1: because when you it's basically just a empty paint can,
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  Speaker 1: and you put it in a sealed can because that
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  Speaker 1: accelerant is going to rise to the top of that can.
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  Speaker 1: Accelerants are lighter than air, and they will use a
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  Speaker 1: syringe and extract literally the air from that can place
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  Speaker 1: it into an instrument, and that instrument can measure if
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  Speaker 1: there's any gasoline kerosene. They can even look and see
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  Speaker 1: if it's used gasoline. There are certain parts of it
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  Speaker 1: that are placed in that ga gasoline that can lead
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  Speaker 1: to a specific manufacturer. Shell Mobile, whoever made it, has
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  Speaker 1: specific ingredients in their gasoline that are in these databases
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  Speaker 1: that can come back and tell you where that gas
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  Speaker 1: may have come from. It's pretty incredible, guys. What she
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  Speaker 1: said is significant because in many crime scenes evidence has
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  Speaker 1: taken away in a bag, paper bag, plastic bag. But
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  Speaker 1: at an arson scene, you can't do that because you
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  Speaker 1: need to get as Karen just told you, fumes. If
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  Speaker 1: any from the articles for allowing us some of the
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  Speaker 1: articles may in some way still be hot and it
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  Speaker 1: would ruin the plastic or the middle of bag, you
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  Speaker 1: lose your evidence. But let me bring this home. Remember
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  Speaker 1: in todd mom Casey Anthony case, where air samples were
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  Speaker 1: taken out of her trunk and those air samples were
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  Speaker 1: analyzed for particles of human decomposition that was attacked at
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  Speaker 1: trial as unproven evidence, but actually that evidence has been
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  Speaker 1: around for decades. In arson cases, when you go to
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  Speaker 1: a gas station you smell gasoline in the air, That's
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  Speaker 1: exactly what happens. That's what Karen Smith was describing. They
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  Speaker 1: extract some of the air from their sealed cans and
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  Speaker 1: then they can analyze it and determine is their accelerant.
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  Speaker 1: In the air crime stories with Nancy Grace the fire,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that in the corner of the street and
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  Speaker 1: fourteenth Haavenue was on fire. Yes, do you see flames? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Everything is no. What's the name? I just guess, you
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  Speaker 1: know house. I don't know nothing, ivanti what what? What
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  Speaker 1: corner of the streets is in? From seventy three corner
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  Speaker 1: north south east west? This is best they will ouse.
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  Speaker 1: Don't reply, Okay you any sar? Door open? Yeah I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was looking to Bindle and looks like same and
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  Speaker 1: so do Okay, Oh my god. But just then, when
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  Speaker 1: you think you may have death by an accidental fire,
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  Speaker 1: listen to this. She had watched um uh several crime
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  Speaker 1: shows and so thought to herself, I better cover my tracks,
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  Speaker 1: and so she washed her dishes and she cleaned up
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  Speaker 1: the things she thought would be evidence. Hours later, police
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  Speaker 1: say Kaiser boasted about what she'd just done, writing on
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  Speaker 1: Facebook this is my mug shot. Bragging on Facebook Live
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  Speaker 1: that takes place in this case, the sort of celebration
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  Speaker 1: of parts of this criminal offense, telling viewers that she
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  Speaker 1: was not afraid to kill again. Police also say Kaiser
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  Speaker 1: went to her boyfriend's house and stated that she had
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  Speaker 1: shot the white dude, saying she was sick of him
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  Speaker 1: touching her. Certainly, if you come to this community from
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  Speaker 1: another community and you shoot someone twice in the head
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  Speaker 1: and then light them on fire, there's going to be
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  Speaker 1: severe consequences. And police say they're still trying to piece
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  Speaker 1: together exactly how Kaiser and the victim met, what their
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  Speaker 1: relationship was. Meantime, we were in touch with one of
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  Speaker 1: Vohler's friends who tells us he was an intelligent and
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  Speaker 1: caring man. Intelligent and caring man, shot twice in the
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  Speaker 1: head and then the home burn You were just hearing
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  Speaker 1: our friends at Fox six. That was Casey Crowns. But
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  Speaker 1: now take a listen to WISN twelve and years Reporter
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  Speaker 1: Terry Sayer just seventeen years old Krystal Kaiser of Milwaukee
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  Speaker 1: is charged with first degree intentional homicide in the murder
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  Speaker 1: of thirty four year old Randall Vlaar. Investigators say the
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  Speaker 1: victim was shot twice in the head as he sat
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  Speaker 1: in a chair in his home. Kenosha police guarded the
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  Speaker 1: crime scene today. Kaiser is accused of setting fire to
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  Speaker 1: Volar's body and stealing his BMW. The car found later
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  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee at sixth and Canal. The criminal complaint says
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  Speaker 1: Kaiser and the victim knew each other, although the relationship
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  Speaker 1: is unclear. Then they check into that more. Yolanda Nelson
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  Speaker 1: says Kaiser was arrested at her fam Hiser's boyfriend. Her
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  Speaker 1: theory Kaiser was paid by a woman who knew the victim. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: her name she uses every month. She's saying, Krystal money.
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  Speaker 1: You think, what are you saying that Crystal was paid
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  Speaker 1: to kill? I think so. Yeah. We ask police about
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  Speaker 1: what Yolanda told us, and they say they're investigating. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's a far cry from where the defense is turning
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  Speaker 1: out to be. To Levi Page, Trime online dot Com
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter, how could it? Then? Sixteen year old girl
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  Speaker 1: pull off a crime like that. Who is Crystal Kaiser, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: She's a sixteen year old girl and she apparently met
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  Speaker 1: Randy Valor on backpage dot com, which is a human
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  Speaker 1: trafficking website. Okay, stop right there. Backpage dot com a
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  Speaker 1: human trafficking website. You know. Ashley Wilcott, judge and trial
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  Speaker 1: lawyer at Ashley Wilcott dot com. Ashley, we typically think
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  Speaker 1: of human trafficking as being a child or a teen
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  Speaker 1: abducted off the streets and then kidnapped. They go missing,
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  Speaker 1: they're never found again, but they're not dead. They're being
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  Speaker 1: sex trafficked, and it happens very often. It's true. It
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  Speaker 1: is true. You don't typically think of the trafficking victim
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  Speaker 1: meeting up with their pimp on a website. Well, I agree,
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  Speaker 1: you don't typically, Nancy, But I have to say this,
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  Speaker 1: it was a very do you remember Backpage and all
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  Speaker 1: the media attention that it got a very common way
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  Speaker 1: for that black market, and that really really just horrible
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  Speaker 1: way of getting victims, and people knew what words to
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  Speaker 1: look for and how to find this market, not only
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  Speaker 1: for those consumers of this horrific crime, but also the victims.
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  Speaker 1: They're kids, So they're victims. I don't understand how a
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  Speaker 1: child would know how to get onto backpage dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace leave by Page. What can
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  Speaker 1: you tell me about backpage dot com? So, Nancy, it's
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  Speaker 1: part of what they call a part of the dark Web,
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  Speaker 1: and it's the largest marketplace for buying and selling sex
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  Speaker 1: on the Internet, and it's pretty big in human trafficking
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  Speaker 1: of children. And it was actually seized by the Justice
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  Speaker 1: Department late last year. Backpage was a classified advertising website
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  Speaker 1: and it grew to become the largest marketplace for buying
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  Speaker 1: and selling sex. So let me explain to doctor Daniel
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  Speaker 1: Bober forensic psychiatrists. You can find them on Instagram, doctor
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Bober, Doctor Bober, a child a teen, say, like
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  Speaker 1: this girl fifteen, sixteen years old goes on this website.
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  Speaker 1: She may not realize that she's actually going to be
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  Speaker 1: sold into sex trafficking. I agree, Nancy, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately now there are all sorts of other social media
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  Speaker 1: sites where this occurs. Backpage is was just sort of
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of it all. So Backpage started the whole trend.
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  Speaker 1: So to Karen Smith, forensic expert, Beerbones consulting Karen. Now
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  Speaker 1: that we know he's been shot twice, I'm you got
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what actually happened, because you know, let
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  Speaker 1: me revert back to Levi page. So, Levi, is that
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  Speaker 1: how we think this fifteen, sixteen year old girl meets
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  Speaker 1: up with Randy Volar? What is he to her? Or
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  Speaker 1: is he a john or a pimp? Well, Nancy, he
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  Speaker 1: was apparently a regular on backpage dot com and this
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  Speaker 1: is not the only young miner that he had met
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  Speaker 1: on there. He actually had other young girl miners that
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  Speaker 1: he would teach how to advertise their services to other
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  Speaker 1: men on backpage dot com. And there's even video that
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement found in his home where he's instructing them.
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  Speaker 1: And this is sickening, Nancy, warning on how to better
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  Speaker 1: pleasure men and advertise themselves on backpage dot com. Oh
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  Speaker 1: we know. Crystal Kaiser was just sixteen when she allegedly
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  Speaker 1: shot and killed a Q sex traff Grandy Volar. She
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  Speaker 1: says in self defense, LEVI, what type of abuse did
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  Speaker 1: she allegedly suffer before the shooting? So apparently she claimed
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  Speaker 1: that she had gone over to his home and that
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  Speaker 1: they were eating pizza drinking alcohol, which is illegal for
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  Speaker 1: an adult to give a minor alcohol. They were also
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  Speaker 1: smoking weed. She said that he started coming on to
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  Speaker 1: her and she tried to get away from him, and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that is when she says that the gun that her
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: boyfriend gave her to protect herself, it went off. She
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: heard a pop. She doesn't remember pulling the trigger though,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and she also said she doesn't remember setting the fire
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: as well, and then she remembers leaving in his BMW.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: We also know this girl, Crystal Tizer, seventeen at the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: time sixteen to seventeen, met up with the victor Randy
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Volar on backpage dot com and she says he allegedly
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: sold her to other people and would drive her from
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: one hotel to the next from meetups and then he
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: would take the cash that she earned. James schellnot, you're
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: very familiar with this case. What more do we know
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: about the abuse she allegedly suffered. She supposedly was sexually
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: abused for a long period of time by this guy
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: taking advantage of manipulated, supposedly was forced to commit sex
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: acts that she was pressured into committee and that's the
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: crux of the of what the manipulation was. Supposedly he
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: gave her money, allowed her to drive his car occasionally,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and essentially forced her by manipulation into prostituting for him.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: But that day, as she willcott, that day things went differently.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Now she says that she had been drugged and raped.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: But did that occur the day of the shooting, because
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: she is saying that that day he gave her a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: particular drug she doesn't know what it was, and they
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: started watching movie and then the drugs started making her
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: feel weird. She says, her word, not mine. That he
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: began to come on to her and touch her leg,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and she suddenly jumped and told him she didn't want
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to do that, that she didn't want to do any
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: of it anymore. She tried to get away, but she tripped,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: fell on the floor, and he was attempting to rape
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: her again. And then suddenly she says she doesn't remember
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: retrieving the pistol, but she still can hear the noise
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: when she pulled the trigger. She says she doesn't remember
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: starting the fire. Neighbors report the fire after she leaves
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the scene at five am. Now, the way he got
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: all linked back to her. The team girl Crystal Tizer
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: is because they found the victim Volar's missing BMWM Milwaukee,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and they connected items in the car to her and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: her brother. Now, her story changed several times after her
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: first interview with the investigators, of first claiming she didn't
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: know Volar, then she said she saw a woman shoot him.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Finally she confesses she was the one who killed him.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: What about it, as she will cut, well, so a
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: couple of things. First of all, as you well know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: sex traffickers and perpetrators of sexual crimes against children groom
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: them and so they do build this relationship and they
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: get hold of them and then they groom them and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: they do sexually abuse them. They're juveniles. So these girls
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: aren't prostitutes, but rather victims. So here this girl is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that a Liz alleging right that Randy Bollard did this
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to her and did assault her more than once, multiple times,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: but she also states that he filmed it. Now, we
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: would hope if that's the case, some of that evidence
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: is found or exists to help support her case. She snapped,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that's my word, nobody else's. But I think that she
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: got to a point based on the versions of the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: story that she's given that she said enough, no more.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: He's been assaulting me, he's been abusing me. I'm not
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: putting it up with it anymore, and she ended up
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: shooting him. Take a listen to our friends at WISN twelve.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: This is Hillary Mince. You believe that she went there
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: with a plan to kill mister Valar. That's right from
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the start. Kenosha County District Attorney Mike Gravely says he's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: been pressured to drop all charges, but argues v large
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: murder was premeditated and says she bragged about it after
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: on social media, and then during the course of the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: evening she texts multiple people talking about how she is
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: planning to do it, that she has googled, and that
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it's going to create a splatter. Vlar's house here has
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: since been torn down, but the district attorney says the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: day they found his body was the same day they
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: were about to charge him with child sex crimes. I mean,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: it's ridiculous that the police knew what was going on
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: with Vaer and allowed her to continue. If somebody commits
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: crimes against you, even horrible crimes, that you aren't allowed
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to go and kill them. In response crime stories with
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, what we haven't told you yet. Is this guy.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: When they searched his home, Randy Volar thirty four, they
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: find the first of all, he was out on bond
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: for filming himself abusing girls as young as twelve years old,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: sex abusing twelve year old girls. My daughter is twelve, Ashley,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: your daughter is twelve, twelve years old filming it. And
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: there were twenty that we know of, twenty videos that
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: we know of, including this girl, Crystal Kaiser, and some
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: of these videos he calls himself quote escort trainer. Now
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't support vigilante juice. Let me just
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: say that up front. But if the courts can't deal
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: with him, you think a jury is going to convict
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: her for shooting him when she's in that video being abuse.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Let's just get real for a minute, James sheldonutt, I mean,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: come on, you know the defense is going to show
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: this to the jury. Of course they are. Oh, they're
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: gotta wait it around like a red flag. They are
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: going to beat it like a drum, and they're gonna
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: beat it all trial long. It's gonna be an ocause stated,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: it's going to be in a cross examination, it's gonna
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: be at the red It's gonna be in the closing.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: They are going to pound this and pound this and
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: pound this the entire trial. You know. Another issue is
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: why why was Volar released from jail without bell after
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: being arrested on pending charges of sex assault on a child. Why, LEVI,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: please give me an answer on that, Nancy. I don't
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: have an answer, But what I can tell you is
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: that months before he was killed, there was a fifteen
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: year old girl that called police nine one one and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: she said, Volar's trying to kill me. She said she'd
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: been given drugs. And when police responded, they found this
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: fifteen year old girl near his property, dazed, confused, wandering
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: around and only her underwear. And she told police that
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: he did this to other minor young girls and gave
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the name of the defendant in this case and Nancy.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Police also seized a bank account during their investigation. I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: was just gonna say that, LEVI page because I want
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: shell Nut weighing in on this. James shell Nut, twenty
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: seven years Metro major case now lawyer one point five
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: million dollars in transfers in his bank account that is
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: consistent with sex trafficking. Well, I mean what does this
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: guy even do for a living? What's he doing? One
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: point five million dollars in transfers. He claimed that he
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: got some of it through buying and selling cryptocurrency. Well,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I can guarantee you. I can guarantee you. You mean
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the fake money, but the fake internet. That is so like,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: call me crazy, call me old fashioned, but that's just
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like the Emperor's close. As soon as somebody says, hey,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: crypto money is not real and people get that in
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: their head, I think it's gonna crash. But you know,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to keep my little checking account with
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: real cash in it. Okay, back to you, shell nut. No,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you know, from an investigative standpoint, here's what, Like, the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: investigator is gonna say, Okay, that's your story. That's fine,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Let's go back and let's start serving subpoenas. They're gonna
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: identify these bank accounts. They're gonna serve subpoenas. They're gonna
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: forensically audit with an accountant this money and see how
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: much of this money actually came from it, if at all,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and if not, if there's unsubstantiated money that can't be determined,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you know who else is going to get a phone
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: call Alphabet agency called the IRS and they're going to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: get involved. And so I think you're not you're not
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: kidding on that. Don't even say IRS. That's like bringing
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Baltimore into the room. Sometimes sometimes that's the worst one.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: You do not mess with the tax man. No, n O.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: You know, another big question I don't understand, as you
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: will caught judge and trial law your anchor Court TV,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: maybe you can explain it. Why was he l released
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: from jail without bell after being arrested on police charges
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: that's not a grand jury indictment. He was released on
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: pending charges of child sex assault. Why? I don't know.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I am a ji. If I were the judge,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have released him because this is what I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: do for a living, and he's a perpetrator, an alleged perpetrator,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: but enough that he should have been held on bond
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: if there is probable cause of my opinion, now stop
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: right there. To James Shellnutt, twenty seven years Atlanta Metro
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: major case swat officer now lawyer. The judge is refusing
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to allow the defense of affirmative defense and just in
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: a nutshell, a self defense, Okay, self defense is a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: complete defense. If you tell a jury you acted in
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: self defense, you are and they believe it, you are exonerated.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: You're not guilty. What message does this send to people
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: fighting back against their attackers. It's basically said of the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: message that the criminal justice system is not going to
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: stand behind you. Nancy. You know I'll tell you. The
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: reason that I believe the judge is not allowing the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: affirmative defense the fact that he the judge, claims that
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: this was all premeditated, that it was all planned. Take
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: a listen to our friends CBS fifty eight rapport Jacqueline
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I bought, the car, was recovered, and investigators found evidence
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: leaking Kaiser to the crime. She was even seen bragging
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: about the crime on Facebook Live. The sort of celebration
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: of parts of this criminal offense to take place in
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: social media, I think shocked the conscience and our again
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: predictive of a person who has absolutely no compunction or
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: willingness to comply with any court orders. But the question
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: is why. The motive is still unclear. But she did
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: tell investigators she had gone upset and she was tired
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: of mister Valar touching her. We do believe that there's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: more to the story that hasn't been presented yet. We
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: would ask the court to consider a reasonable cash bomb.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Her bail was set at one million dollars. If Kaiser
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: is convicted, she could face a life sentence. Okay, that's
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: what we're learning that the judge believes that there is
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: evidence of premeditation. If it's premeditated, our planned ahead of time,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it can't be self defense. But take a listen to
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: our friends over at WISN twelve. This Hillary mints the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: one million dollars cash bond is appropriate. Twelve News was
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: there in court when one million dollars bail was set
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: for Crystal Kaiser. The Milwaukee team is charged with shooting, killing,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: and setting Randall Vlaar on fire in his Kenosha home
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: last June. She was just seventeen at the time. And
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: what do you think that people need to know about
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: where he died? The case now making national headlines and
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: in a jailhouse interview with The Washington Post, Kaiser now
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: alleges she killed Valar because he used her for sex trafficking.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Supporters of Kaiser say it was self defense. She had
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: been trying to get out of the whatever arrangement that
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: they had and he was threatening to kill her. In
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: court last week, her attorney, a public defender, argued the
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: murder falls under state law called affirmative defense, which acquits
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: sex trafficking victims of certain crimes, but a judge disagreed,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: saying it only applies to prostitution or child trafficking cases. Okay,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: what does that mean that it only applies to prostitution
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: or child trafficking? To judge and trial lawyer Ashley Wilcot, well,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and so I do know. I do
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: understand what that means. It applies in cases in which
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: a child is a victim of sex trafficking. They can
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: then claim that affirmative defense. That's my understanding. What I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: don't understand is in this particular case, I think it
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: fits the bill. I think that she is a victim
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: of sex trafficking with this older man, and so I'm
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: not certain why the judge isn't allowing it. You know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I think that a better defense would be something akin
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: to battered Woman's defense. James shell Nutt, Metro major case
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and lawyer, because that addresses a long period of abuse
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and then a response in an altered state a response
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you would normally normally have, and often in a battered
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: woman syndrome case or something similar to that, you have
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: the victim, the battered woman. Let's just say pick up.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Let's say a knife walk into the den where the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: husband's watching TV in the easy chair and stab him.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: In most cases, that would not be self defense because
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: you've got a few moments of premeditation getting the knife,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: walking into the den the TV's going, and stabbing your husband.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: All right, but it's allowed self defense under the better
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Women's syndrome after a long period of abuse. Now the
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: prosecutors say, we don't know the whole story us on
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the outside looking in. Is there more question to you,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Leavi Page? How does this parallel with the case. Do
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: you recall Cynthia Brown who was granted clemency last year.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: It's the case that the Kardashians became involved with. Yes,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: that was in Tennessee, Nancy, and she actually shot and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: killed her pimp as well. She was a child trafficking victim.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: And what happened, well, what happened there, Nancy, She was
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: convicted of his murder, spent a lot of time behind bars,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of berties started bringing her case to social media.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: They brought attention to it and she was granted clemency
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: by the governor and she's now released. We wait as
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: justice unfolds. Nancy Grace Crim's toy signing off Goodbye Friend,