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State of the Sides 2025 · My First Dungeon

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey gamers, welcome to the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's crazy that I, it's crazy that Abby tried to start a thing and then bail a midway through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was never genuinely trying, I just thought it would be funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you have to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy the story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's funny enough that it is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here's how you save it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here's how you save it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You go all in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You do it again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is the take I'll use after the previous day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Abby go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is the new direction of the pod.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's our new thing is that we've got rid of.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just fun to do it, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's now hell of a gamer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and for a second, I thought you'd be in Shenuk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're silently committing to not saying anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just seeing the moment and roll with that new.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just let Abby talk for 30 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh wait, but let's be clear.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Number one should be Wow Damn the rams are crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I already know what they are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't even have to say anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, if you have to ask folks You already know So me and Brian are number one tied for number one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think
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[SPEAKER_04]: Who's to say no easy number three
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[SPEAKER_04]: And boy, howdy, we did a lot of stuff in that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Boy, howdy, howdy, to kind of kick us off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So what we want to do with this conversation is talk about what we did in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What we're really excited about, like the highlights, the low lights, all the stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then also what we're looking forward to in 2026 to kind of start the year off right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you guys want to hear some of our stats for this year?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, stats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do a little, let's do a little, many-sided rafts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So as of December 20, second, when this is being recorded at 917 PM, we have released 25 episodes of my first dungeon, 26, including this one, and that's not including feed drop, that's just like main feed stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We released 27 public episodes of Talk of the Table.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We put out way at the beginning of the year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It feels forever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We put out seven episodes of Bidcherton this year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we put out 28 issues of the many-sided news letter this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hot dog.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Damn.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's more than one every two weeks, you know, with a little extra special additions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They say we can't do 30 of anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But here's what's going to happen in 2026.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be 30 flirty and thriving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to prove the engine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Would y'all like to guess how many and this is so I did some math of everything we put out this year main feed patreon all the stuff Would you like to guess how many minutes hours or days of Audio content we put out this year and that's combining everything that's it's all what minutes Shit okay, sorry, but but Abby is poll did it at the beginning of this was probably like five
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't tell time good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So this is main feed and like patreon bonus content for my first dungeon talk of the table specifically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Main feed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is everything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So this includes patreon stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, includes patreon.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So if you want to guess how many hours and or days, or minutes, if you want to get crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, four nights.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're just in seven days.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Abby's going to be looking seven days.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We put out lane less than that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, let me just go ahead and let's go ahead and let's see if better is it better if I guess lower.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Man, this is a real bummer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If it's closest for now, if we're doing prices right, rules, the Shenard wins for four minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it's four days.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Four days?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Shenuk still wins, because you went over.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We released 5,231 minutes, which is 87 hours, which is 3.63 days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, we, we are a loopy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is our goal to dower actually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to dower.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to dower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to dower.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We just fit, so for the listener to know we just finished recording episode seven of parals and princesses And then immediately went from that which was a very fun episode And we only went from that to this and everyone got their giggles on So that's what we yeah Also a little sick
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're just, you got the fuck off of me, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's getting fun, apparently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not even more, now it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so some other, some other like big milestones to miss, you're just reminding guys of all the stuff we've done this year, because it's honestly, it's easy to forget.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We took home two awards from the New Jersey web fest for Best Editing Best Sound Design.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We also took home Best Actual Play podcast from the T.O.
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[SPEAKER_04]: web fest in Toronto.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, Toronto.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, Toronto.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Plus, I truly don't even know how many nominations we got across.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like every, a lot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A lot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A lot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which was great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We also, this year, started the many side of network, and added eight new shows.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have facilitated over $10,000 in sponsorships for those shows between August and November.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And just three months.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And also distributed to affiliate shows over $2,000 in ad revenue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, hell yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The next one is thriving and making so many in actual play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you hear that listener?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Making the money in actual play.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is also going to a lot of shows who had never really done any kind of sponsored stuff or had any really like ad revenue stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we love them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we're doing our, we're doing our, the many side of the ad been calendar right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: As we're recording this and like kind of dropping episodes of other people shows on the my first lunch and feed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're getting a little taste.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna say a little snack, a snack pack, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A young and young and a young and a young and a young and a young and a young person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A snack pack for your ears.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So when we did this last year, you know, going into 2025, this was 2025 is kind of the year about like getting serious buckling down and like really making a go at making many sided media a long term like full-throated project, which like, you know, we put together an LLC.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We like are treating this more like a business.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we have just this year that we made the LLC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We made it last year, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we didn't make a rest here for a bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we've done a lot of like made a lot of moves to make this more serious and more sustainable and we're still along this in so way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we've made some pretty big leaps over the past 12 months.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I think you're just like really it's exciting to celebrate those things.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm curious from everyone here favorite moments from 2025 related to many side of media.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do like a specific episode or moment or thing that we got to do in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I loved doing so much was writing with Carolyn Page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Carol, the Bitterton Gossip Braggs, the physical sheets that we got to print out and send to people who backed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was such a fun, like additional way to world build and be part of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was so much fun working with Carolyn all of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was very proud of, and that if if a season two is in the air, maybe I'll get to do more, maybe
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[SPEAKER_04]: And all of those letters were hand, I watched a lot of TV while the hands stamping the dressing goes on for lunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we did a lot of, um, what's the word I'm looking for at the assembly line?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we did a lot of assembly line of putting that together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our printer was mostly great, but every now and again, everything would arrive like the trifold would be wrong where you had to just like adjust the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right, you had to go through 200 of them and
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, shit, what about you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stand up moment from the year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you pick on me because my hand looked like it was raised?
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[SPEAKER_04]: A little bit, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you want me to come back to you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, I haven't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just like, I see, I think I see why he did this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I think there were a lot of cool moments for us in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, while it's the winning, the best actual play of fucking rocked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's so pretty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this year, like, really, like, not understanding, like, I guess being able to put words to why I constantly, like play characters with, like, ethnically Sri Lankan names are ethnically brown names.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you're doubling down on the, like, games as a tool of embracing your identity and, like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: really claiming who you are has been such a like a healing and and fun Processed for me and like as someone that ever grew up seeing their name and you wear in media like being able to do that and like Have like a place where people with ethnically south Asian names can kind of see themselves feels like a really nice gift to give younger me
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very sweet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's he did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That also came out in all of like so so many of the newsletter articles that you wrote Yeah, specifically going into like that space Which is really cool to see yeah Who thought I would be Ernest on this huh?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ernest Your name's Fennu The importance of being Ernest
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[SPEAKER_04]: So Ellie, how do you want to follow that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a spot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's like, I'm going to just like, I'm going to jump on that as a thought real quick, but that's not my thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But specifically playing Sammy opposite you in Slug Blaster was like the most explicitly queer I've ever been, and which was also a very important kind of meaningful experience for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, my favorite moment of the year,
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[SPEAKER_02]: so many good ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I don't know, I, I think that, like, boo, I can't pick one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I keep going back and forth between a few.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say that you're allowed to have multiple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I have more than bitter taste as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I won't do any more than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to highlight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's been a lot of, there's been a lot of like non-public moments where I hear what people think of many side of media that really lifts my spirits in a really big way that I think if I add all those together this year I have I can count more times that things like that happen where people are like like
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[SPEAKER_02]: the network happens and people are like, wow, you guys are really doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you guys are really, you know, making actual play sustainable for people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you are, you know, a big player, you are doing this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, it's like, there was just...
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[SPEAKER_02]: moments that are private and like in passing where it's just and social posts from people and stuff where it's just like people really Respect what we're doing and can see the effort and it's paying off and add all those together and that's pretty cool right
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[SPEAKER_01]: My God, similar to that of another moment that I am, I just so grateful for and proud of is that a person from Australia, told me by Australia that accent was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sub her box.
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[SPEAKER_04]: summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I didn't know how important it was to be for someone to say that until it discord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, hey, I'm Australian, and at first I was like, fuck no, and then I was like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, she's holding that to a pretty okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, that is great to hear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank
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[SPEAKER_04]: I noticed that my brief dance with an Australian accent was never coming to the pond and that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like summer's family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's family memories.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, all right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was really cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brian, you're not really in this want to get in the chat, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian wants you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Brian, what's your highlight moment or you're not allowed to have more than I know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I prepared a lot of this outline and then didn't come up with answers from this has been a year that has felt like
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to say, like, it's always hard to do the stuff like the day to day work can always be like a lot, but it's felt easier overall.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like we're all kind of finding our groove, we're moving through like kind of to echo what Elliot's saying like there is more people who are responding to what we're doing, whether that be
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[SPEAKER_04]: listeners or just like people who know about us, people in the network, you know, the advertisers and sponsors we work with are now like more seeing the value of actual play as a way to like help spread the word about various games, which has been really great to see from just like a business perspective that kind of has to happen otherwise this thing won't work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But also like yet, I think getting to tell more stories that people that we're able to do like for a little bit longer, give a little bit deeper and have moments that like individual players are more excited about like exploring things has been really cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It feels like we're flipping a switch into a new gear of what my first dungeon can be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I think like similar with talking to table, like, it's just been on for long enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, and I think we've had enough good conversations that more people are excited to come on the show, knowing that the tier of discussion will be higher than just, hey, how did you get into role-playing games?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If that's been a very great thing with talk of the table of you have both from the start of it been very intentional about, you know, when you sit down to have a conversation of like, why is this conversation with this specific person, some, you know, important or need it, and that it's, I think that intentionality really has come through and everything,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thanks, Sam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like talk to the table is where we like, at least for me, and maybe you agree, Brian, is like where we work out are like feelings about like, about the industry and like, you know what we want to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, I think about so many driving forces and like the way we do stuff, like Abby, you just said intentionality, and I like, I mean, as soon as you said that, I was like, we say intentionality all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to talk to the table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like so much of what we learned in talk about on talk of the table and it's a playing a director role in the business.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And even the idea of like intentionality, like that came from an episode.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like when we were dialing down on like what are the things we care about an actual play, I don't know if we talked about it before, but that was where we kind of cemented it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then it became a thing where we just like, we'd reference our old episodes and so it just kind of became more and more and more cemented.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Talk to tables just to sniff in our own farts
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is great though, because there were a number of times this year where we'd go into an episode or like, planned to have on a guest and I didn't know, I'm always, I always love these episodes because as we're prepping for an episode, we'll kind of go back and forth on stuff and sometimes we won't know as much about a person or a game or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so we're like, kind of finding it, we're like worried about I get especially worried about episodes why just don't know enough going into it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm like, oh, well, I be able to have a good conversation and then turning the corner and getting like really excited about a thing and finding that thing to latch on to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm specifically thinking of the Dragon Reactor episode.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, of like going into that I just didn't know a lot about the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we knew Nova from seeing them at a breakout con from Frank out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I didn't know much about the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I found like a few mechanics that like really got me excited.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And now that became like a really great conversation like about game design and specific things that I know like we want to steal for other game design things.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did also think of a thing that I was really excited about this year was both practical and like a necessary business thing but also a creative boon which was bringing on Jay Strautman to do half of these lug blaster sound designs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which is huge, like end of 2024, I was getting very burnt out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like Wild Sea was I was almost done and like Pantheon
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[SPEAKER_04]: being able to bring on a second editor for that because, you know, myth works was so generous in how they sponsored us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was like possible.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And like we were able to pay J.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Certainly not which is worth.
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[SPEAKER_04]: J is worth way more than what we were able to pay them right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: J, we'll give you everything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But still able to pay them a solid rate.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was really excited going into that collaboration of getting the first cut back of like, oh, how is this going to feel for me?
19:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm kind of letting go of a thing that I've had pretty a tight grip on from the editor chair.
19:24
[SPEAKER_04]: And within the like first five or six minutes of getting the first episode back, Jay made like a small choice in the sound design that I wouldn't have made.
19:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Not that it's not bad, bad.
19:36
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just I wouldn't have thought to do it.
19:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And I heard it and I was like, oh, that's good.
19:41
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was like, and luckily it came within the first like six minutes of the first step.
19:50
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's on design.
19:51
[SPEAKER_04]: So I got to hear that and immediately be like, oh, yes, this is what I wanted.
19:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to have like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: a person across from me and the editor's chair for different episodes where now it can be a conversation back and forth.
20:04
[SPEAKER_04]: We can build off each other a little bit.
20:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Each of us kind of finds things that is interesting.
20:08
[SPEAKER_04]: And by the end of the season, like there's a great synthesis between the design that J did, the design that I did.
20:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I haven't j backed for perils and princesses already done episode two.
20:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like we also absolutely one hundred percent need to shut out, um, behold, our perennial partner.
20:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Behold.
20:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And specifically this year, I think, because, this is always incredible.
20:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just such a joy and so cool to get to have custom music for these things.
20:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But specifically this year, the Slug Blaster theme song.
20:46
[SPEAKER_01]: All of us, I think, independently, had a moment where we were like, you know, there's 90s, like, toy commercials, where it was like, done, na, na, na, na, na, na, and Brian did, like, a voice note recording, said it to behold.
21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I called it was like, yeah, I already, I had that thought also.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a draft of the theme song, like immediately back and it was that and it was like, yeah, that's the sound.
21:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the exact thing that we want and it was such a funny thing.
21:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, I sing that song multiple times a week.
21:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's stuck in my head randomly.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I will just be like hanging out after school.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a like the to hold on to hold on behold for a sec if for folks who might not know that that guy got like over a million streams this year
21:41
[SPEAKER_02]: What is that?
21:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Fucking sick, um, and it's just like, well earned.
21:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, what?
21:47
[SPEAKER_02]: You're sick?
21:49
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
21:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
21:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Shinnick, no one told you.
21:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
21:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
21:54
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, it's just like, it's like, and I, there's, there's an impulse in me where it's like, I don't, I don't want to, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: to have my first dungeon take credit for like that success because Collins talent is why that why behold is that good but it is so cool to see him springboard off of working with us into that kind of success you know like like behold kind of started with
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... project echo i think was the first no die died was the first one yeah yeah yeah i'm testing right now you're welcome
22:35
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's just like it's just so good to see for anyone who hasn't listened to it yet This year, Bill put out an album called Where They Landed which is like imagining if aliens landed in like rural Appalachia It's very good.
22:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's like a lot of like the intro synth.
22:50
[SPEAKER_04]: It's very cool.
22:51
[SPEAKER_04]: He did a lot of like weird CRT Visualizers for it on social media Very cool stuff.
22:58
[SPEAKER_04]: So definitely go check that out
23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the other thing, if you'll take the ball when I throw it to you, Abby, is I feel like this year you got real serious on the newsletter is another part of the success story of this year.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: We tried to buckle down on newsletter and really try to figure out
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: How to make some things that were were to really dive into what I felt like people were interested in reading and what they wanted to see in here and and thinking a lot more about sort of the person opening this every two weeks and I feel like it's been fun to get to do that because the other thing is in my in my
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: My nine to five, doing a lot of writing and similar sorts of things, and it was nice to get to bring a lot of that into this and have that kind of crossover.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And then fun as well when we get to highlight the network and whatever it is up to.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You have a great job here.
23:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
23:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because we're how big did it grow?
23:56
[SPEAKER_02]: How big did the newsletter grow this year?
23:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell us how big it got.
24:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell us how big it got.
24:01
[SPEAKER_04]: We are we are just Tell us how big it got was a little aggressive for me You know what hurt I'm not saying I'm just saying like one first
24:18
[SPEAKER_04]: So, we're ending right now, currently, as of December 22nd, we have 1,968 total subscribers to the newsletter.
24:25
[SPEAKER_04]: We've grown 54% this year up from 1,276.
24:28
[SPEAKER_04]: We also have one stretch in the middle here in May, from May 19th to May 22nd, where we grew like 200 people, and I have no idea why.
24:43
[SPEAKER_01]: if anyone knows if you should have credit for boosting our newsletter please let me know you keep there's always comments open on all the newsletters would love to hear more from people uh would be great yeah
25:00
[SPEAKER_04]: We also did have, you know, we're getting into a realm where, you know, the paper, the Patreon numbers and like the money we're getting in from Patreon every month is starting to be, it is certainly not sustainable.
25:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Like no one is making a full-time living or anywhere close to that, but it is getting to a point where like, it is a legitimate help to like augment each season and like make sure that everyone who's like,
25:23
[SPEAKER_04]: when Shenukh is editing like talkbacks or some bonus content in Eliot's editing, talk to the table like now we can actually like pay ourselves a pittance, but still something.
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I say it really supports the actual making of all of this in a very real way and is something that we're going to do some cool new stuff within the new year.
25:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
25:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Colin texted me back.
25:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that a threat?
25:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you just fix him?
25:55
[SPEAKER_03]: You're welcome.
25:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
26:00
[UNKNOWN]: Nice.
26:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
26:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I do want to say something to anyone out there who's who's ever considered becoming a patron because I did I did some math recently and if you are a big fan of everything we make and if listen to every single episode of everything we've ever made.
26:16
[SPEAKER_04]: if we track that amount of listens and multiply that by our average like ad spend or whatever, you will have helped us by about five total dollars, which is great, but also the lowest tier of our Patreon is five dollars.
26:31
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you go to Patreon right now and go to our $10 tier, sign up for one month and then download literally everything and then immediately cancel your subscription, you will have helped us 200% as much as listening to everything that is publicly available.
26:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it is very legitimate the amount of
26:53
[SPEAKER_04]: help to what we are doing, and making it sustainable, that going to Patron doing it for one month.
27:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it does not have to be a month of a month.
27:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we'd love it if people can do that.
27:04
[SPEAKER_04]: But for anyone who can't, who just wants to support us one time, please go to Patron, give us $10.
27:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Download, what did we do this year?
27:11
[SPEAKER_04]: 60, some three days, and that's just this year.
27:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Like download the past two years.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got it.
27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: it all.
27:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus there's like all of the original year because we did weekly releases.
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:23
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't agree.
27:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
27:24
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just to be longer.
27:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
27:26
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a lot of stuff for you to go get this.
27:30
[SPEAKER_04]: This a part of this is very much me shilling for our stuff because it's very cool.
27:36
[SPEAKER_04]: And everyone who signs up for Patreon is very legitimately helping us to grow and like keep doing this and keep making the show.
27:42
[SPEAKER_04]: but also like, that does not have to be a big investment for anybody.
27:47
[SPEAKER_04]: If you can't do it month to month, don't, that's totally fine.
27:50
[SPEAKER_04]: But please, I want you to listen to all this stuff on Patreon because it is really, like we did a three part series with Felix Isaacs running us through the Wild Sea this year.
27:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That was so cool.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was so spooky, oh my God.
28:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably my favorite character I've gotten to play in like in two or three years.
28:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I love that like, Mothrin, Ravler, conspiracy theorist guy.
28:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Great freak.
28:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that was a good character.
28:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's a great way.
28:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we Caleb's ain't he would ran us through a three-part of triangle agency.
28:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that was so fucking good.
28:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that was this year's season.
28:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this year too.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Does anybody have a favorite character that they played this year?
28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be an MPC.
28:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh It could be an MPC.
28:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, actually.
28:32
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a kid.
28:34
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a character from Ferrell's in Princess's then people will meet in episode one
28:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.
28:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the fucking kid, isn't it?
28:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it.
28:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
28:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's it.
28:46
[SPEAKER_03]: No spoiler.
28:47
[SPEAKER_03]: You've never made a character that I've hated more.
28:49
[SPEAKER_04]: It is the worst little guy.
28:52
[SPEAKER_04]: I love him so much.
28:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
28:56
[SPEAKER_04]: It's either that or the Maultern Ravler from Wild Sea though.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I did love that conspiracy theorist.
29:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That was so funny.
29:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got to go Sammy.
29:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
29:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that little boy.
29:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Same way.
29:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoa, wait, whoa, no sorry, I love that little guy.
29:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that's what I meant to say.
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not better.
29:16
[SPEAKER_02]: No, oh, God, all right.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I was him, he is me, it's all right.
29:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Sammy, he's great.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we love Sammy.
29:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Abby, what about you?
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm trying to think, I know I did love, I loved Summer Bog so much.
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to say building her family.
29:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
29:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, I just love to the whole, the whole of Boggs entity brought me so much joy to think about all of them and how they're interacting with each other.
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like the building.
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: The building, the building there like Boggs lure back in my head, uh, brought me specific delight.
29:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I actually might like Ruby's dad.
29:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Ruby's dad might be my favorite actually.
30:02
[SPEAKER_02]: You're, uh,
30:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Shena, what about you?
30:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I liked playing, uh, what was at the cat and caught in Bremon?
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sure.
30:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Bremon.
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Bremon was this year?
30:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Bremon was this year.
30:19
[SPEAKER_02]: We did a lot, guys.
30:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit.
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
30:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Abby, you were going to say PD.
30:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie to you.
30:27
[SPEAKER_00]: PD, I have a tough relationship with him.
30:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little upset that a piece of my psyche was like, you know what you should do.
30:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what you should do.
30:41
[SPEAKER_02]: People who have fugged state and made peace.
30:44
[SPEAKER_03]: This was a huge year for Abbey characters.
30:46
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people in the discord were like, oh, we love Abbey's characters.
30:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And like a lot of different seasons.
30:51
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Try to, try to do the Shadow School of Character Building, which is make wild swings with your guys.
31:01
[SPEAKER_04]: So Abby, are you going to grace this podcast at the end of 2012?
31:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I might the last podcast of 2025 with... Do it.
31:11
[SPEAKER_04]: A little reaper.
31:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Two weeks.
31:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And my birthday was over a month ago.
31:17
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
31:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Elliot and for his birthday.
31:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
31:25
[SPEAKER_03]: She's just shaking your head and no, no.
31:27
[SPEAKER_03]: She's just stop talking.
31:34
[SPEAKER_02]: That's for the soul, bro.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: What is that room looking forward to in 2020, sis?
31:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, she advanced the plot.
31:42
[SPEAKER_02]: She is like one week next week.
31:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Went back to the agenda.
31:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, the last thing I want to say is I want to shout out Shenuk.
31:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Shenuk, you went on, you guessed it on more shows than any of us all year.
31:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you're out there.
31:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, spreading the news, you're out in the safe spreading, you see, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
32:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sure what you did Played in our corner.
32:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Did play in our corner.
32:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I know quite a no-quest for the wicked.
32:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I did Major and high five match up.
32:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, in Major and have five did a mini series with twice-filtil's Right Was panic table this year?
32:44
[SPEAKER_03]: No, panic table.
32:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, did we know that was last year panic table last year
32:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But if that could have been early this year, I don't remember no panic.
32:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I filmed panic table in October of 2024 still yet to be released.
33:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Kevin's working on it.
33:06
[SPEAKER_03]: But Cameron's working on it.
33:07
[SPEAKER_03]: It is just a chunky edit and that guy is super busy.
33:11
[SPEAKER_01]: doing too much cool stuff.
33:13
[SPEAKER_03]: He's doing too many cool things, but then mean Elliot we're on like a one shot.
33:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That's dream.
33:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That might have been early this year.
33:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was.
33:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, at least five shows.
33:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Damn.
33:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, huge.
33:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Almost like you do this for a living.
33:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can make a little bit of money and actual play folks.
33:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Not a living wage yet.
33:35
[SPEAKER_03]: You're willing to do stand up, uh, haven't had a pocket for extra company with you.
33:40
[SPEAKER_03]: You've made your A.P.
33:42
[SPEAKER_04]: You need to add it and write.
33:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And also do social media content with the soon to be mayor of New York.
33:48
[SPEAKER_04]: So I hope, yeah.
33:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And also do social media content with Zaron Momdani.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I just got really speaking, speaking of social media content.
33:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Brian Clarity, Brian Clarity.
33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Brian Clarity, you've done it.
34:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And you've done it.
34:04
[SPEAKER_04]: You've done it.
34:05
[SPEAKER_04]: You've been doing it.
34:06
[SPEAKER_04]: It happened early this year.
34:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Someone, I've said this on talk of the table.
34:09
[SPEAKER_04]: So for any listeners of that, you'll have heard this four or five times before.
34:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw some clip online of someone being like, Oh, you know, I hate having to promote my stuff.
34:19
[SPEAKER_04]: It, like, I hate doing social media.
34:21
[SPEAKER_04]: It just sucks.
34:21
[SPEAKER_04]: And they were like, and then I thought about it and I was like, well, okay, what's the alternative?
34:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I pay $20,000 to put up a billboard, you know, design, put up a billboard on Sunset Boulevard.
34:33
[SPEAKER_04]: So someone could maybe see it while they're looking up from their texting and driving.
34:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, which one is more, like cost-efficient, which one's like also ultimately like less selfish?
34:43
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh, okay, actually, I can suck it up and do some videos on social media.
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And you made a lot of fun ones.
34:50
[SPEAKER_04]: And I've been doing almost one a day for a while.
34:53
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing is you're good at it.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
34:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, you're very good at it.
34:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I do want to do some in the new year.
35:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to do a couple of long form videos.
35:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I kind of keep hearing Queens talk about this on various podcasts that he wishes there was another reviewer out there.
35:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Of like his.
35:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to do actual play review.
35:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to do podcast reviews, I don't want to do TTRBG reviews or actual reviews.
35:19
[SPEAKER_04]: But I wouldn't mind doing like some deep dives into the games that we've played already.
35:24
[SPEAKER_04]: of like really go into my thoughts on like die or the wild sea or slug blaster of like we ran this campaign i guess what i'm describing is a review i was like where's the difference here uh... uh... slightly different format but you want to say that i don't want to be a reviewer but i went mind doing some like long form let me like i think i have a lot of thought video essays video essays i really i want to sit down and synthesize a lot of my thoughts that we've like
35:50
[SPEAKER_04]: been etching away at in talk of the table and like an outside conversations this year and see what they look.
35:57
[SPEAKER_04]: See if they become cogent and coheurins when I put them all down on paper or if these are just, you know, disparate thoughts rattling around in my head.
36:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So quins were coming for you in 2026.
36:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Quins, I'm coming for you for now.
36:12
[SPEAKER_01]: We're also planning to release some new cool stuff that I don't know.
36:17
[SPEAKER_01]: New cool stuff.
36:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
36:19
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
36:20
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
36:21
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
36:21
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to be talking about new cool stuff.
36:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been hard at work on some cool new stuff.
36:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about the rest of you, but.
36:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I supposed to be working on new cool stuff?
36:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You were special, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:43
[SPEAKER_04]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:45
[SPEAKER_04]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:47
[SPEAKER_02]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:50
[SPEAKER_02]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:53
[SPEAKER_02]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:58
[SPEAKER_04]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed to be worth it.
36:59
[SPEAKER_04]: You were supposed to be worth it, you were supposed
37:01
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to call it Project Echo the show, but if I just say Project Echo, you might get confused.
37:05
[SPEAKER_02]: There will be a new podcast called Project Echo coming out, January 7th, starring our very own Abigail Hepworth, continuing the tale of Agent 007, which you might recognize if you've listened to the My First Dungeon series.
37:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Doing a little funky thing with this show, I guess I could probably window for the folks, which you'll notice right away, if you listen on January 7th, this show is released in date order of the playthrough of Project Echo, crucially not in linear order.
37:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yes, most shows are released in chronological order, Brian, but most shows aren't time travel shows.
37:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is the time travel shows.
37:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So episodes will be coming out on the date that Abby's character encounters them, but they will not be in the order that Abby's character encountered them, because 007 bounces around time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it'll be a fun puzzle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be very audio drama.
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[SPEAKER_02]: E where we don't have a lot of like explicit play in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then me Brian and Shenukh show up in there a lot as bunch of side characters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and we're yeah, we got a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting sort of stuff planned for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a real experimental new kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that I'm very fucking amped about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's kind of like the ideal form of a project Echo AP.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I am really excited to, um, just the release cadence of it is going to be like, there's not going to be a standard release day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be, it's just whatever days I land it on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What I'm excited about is like, it's a thing that we always be checking your podcast feed for of like there could be three episodes back to back to back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There could be two episodes in a day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and then there could be a break of a month and a half, and I mean, and that is exciting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And also like the episodes are pretty varied in length from like, I think we're going to have some like minute long episodes and also some like 10, 15 minute episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just a little bite size bits of time travel.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, have a fun time trying to figure out where exactly you are in the story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm very curious to see if this works.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're at a point where we are throwing our cap over the wall and just saying, we're going to do this regardless of what it looks like.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think everything we've made so far looks and sounds great, but who knows if it comes together once it's actually being released in the world in the way that we are imagining it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm really excited to see what happens with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: going to be good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So keep an eye out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Keep an ear out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep an ear out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: To round out this conversation, I'd love to go around the horn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently, I'm clearly very, very flirty favorite.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I'll leave that phrase behind in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go around the horn and talk about what is one goal that each of us has for 26 when it comes to actual play, TTOBGs, many sided media,
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[SPEAKER_04]: you know, anything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I am, I think one of my big goals for 2026 is really getting many side of media to like a practically sustainable place.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're like very much on the road to that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've got a lot of growth to do before then.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But like I'm looking forward to us like getting way ahead on edits, you know, putting out new shows, putting new shows on the network, and all of those little things kind of coming together in order to make this whole endeavor, this whole project, you know, make sense and work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I'd love to for all of us to have the option and, you know, maybe more people beyond to make this their full-time thing if we want it to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I know even going into 26, like this little thing I'll like window, we already have our whole year booked kind of for my first dungeon and it's all already sponsored.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like we've already got stuff lined up and we're, you know, excited to be that far ahead.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It feels like we're kind of unlocking a new gear by being able to look that far ahead and know what's coming up down the horizon rather than just always kind of
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[SPEAKER_04]: laying the track in front of us, we're able to lay the track a little further down the line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next year, I very much, I mean, this is such a dorky thing to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like, but...
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to play more games.
41:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just more different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there's so many cool things that we talk about or like every time we come back from a con and you're like, I've heard about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about, hey, I had to be doing this.
41:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I want to hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I want to play more games on Mike off Mike, just doing all of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like a thing that I'm relatedly and more on Mike, but excited to do is
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep experimenting with making the weird out of like character building as I think I love so much and getting to play all these these characters and to think about how they fit into these places.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just incredibly fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm very excited to do more of that and get to push it a bit, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm also really looking forward to like I think 2025 I feel like personally a little bit I like maybe rest it on my laurels for some GMing stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, okay, I'm in my groove, but I'm not like really pushing much beyond what my usual like comfort zone was I'm excited for 2026 like, you know,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Again, just like push a little bit further, see what more I can do, take like each little bit more seriously.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think 26.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like adding maybe a show or two that is like kind of like in the project I go paying like a little bit different from the traditional games that we're going of like, I realize like, oh, like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a network of people that are kind of cookie crazy talented and like what shows they have a cooking in their brain if they got to make a podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also just seeing like kind of more of those folks play some games on the pod would be cool too of like getting some crazy characters who aren't traditionally in the space into the space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know one of the coolest one of the like the most like a surprising recorded moments of this I think you I think we recorded this here was Peter Gross on bitritten.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, God was such a good episode Really really playing a game or doing like improv with Peter Gross made me realize like, oh, this is a skill
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, even like I think in cool moment was like having Lori Hernandez on the pod playing my god.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
44:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
44:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Playing Javals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So fun to play with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we got to play on more you save us for next year too.
44:28
[SPEAKER_02]: True.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for year.
44:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Elliot, you got a thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My big one is a lot of money.
44:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I like all of these.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with Bryan on the like I want to push performance stuff.
44:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I want to next time I'm in the character because I'm producing the Paris and Princess season next time I'm either in the player urgency pushing myself to grow as a performer.
44:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to do events, baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to do more stuff at cons, many cited cons, events, many cited booths, maybe at packs with the more blueberries booth, like I think presence and, you know, we're doing more video next year and we're getting our faces out there more and I think doing that in person is all really fun and good and like doing some local New York events.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We did like a talk of the table live this year for the first time,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would love to do that again?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to the 20 side of the store in Brooklyn for hosting us on size store 20 side of store.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, we're better Yeah, so events events and in-person in people's faces shaking hands kissing babies, you know all that Kiss and hands shaking babies shaking babies kissing hands.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, packs this year really can't
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[SPEAKER_04]: understand how like transformative packs felt this year.
45:51
[SPEAKER_04]: That, like, kind of felt like we arrived.
45:55
[SPEAKER_04]: in a certain way.
45:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I think both for like many side of media stuff, but also for more blueberries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: More blues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: More blues than I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: More more more blues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: More more blueberries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: More more blues.
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[SPEAKER_03]: More blues.
46:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I think we could talk about and we do.
46:11
[SPEAKER_04]: We have meetings every week, multiple times a week about like what we want to do, where we want to go, and we're able to do in a year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the answer kind of without fail is more.
46:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, if you sum it down, it's also it's ultimately we want to do more and we want to make it better and You know 2525.
46:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we did that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think 26 we're certainly gonna be doing that just with what we have on our plate right now We've already committed to doing that
46:41
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you're listening to this, you've gotten to the end, and you know that I'm going to make one more pitch for our Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just do it.
46:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Make Brian happy.
46:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Just do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me make a pitch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me make a pitch for the Patreon.
46:53
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
46:54
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
46:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Do a blueberry pitch.
46:57
[SPEAKER_02]: My pitch for the Patreon is a pitch to, yes, one day.
47:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love for this company to be able to pay all of us a full-time salary.
47:07
[SPEAKER_02]: First and foremost, I need you to pay Brian Flair to your full-time salary.
47:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
47:12
[SPEAKER_02]: work so hard.
47:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He works so hard.
47:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He makes such beautiful art with sound and everything that like delights your ears about our shows and honestly so much of the way this ship is driven is because of him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's build his salary up first and then you can help me and be in Chinook out.
47:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But if for nobody else join the Patreon for Brian Flair.
47:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's my pitch.
47:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Please, I'm dying.
47:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm dead.
47:36
[SPEAKER_04]: It changed into the desk.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It taped my fingers to the keyboard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back to audition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back to back to you.
47:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't want to load pro tools to see it.
47:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to load pro tools to see it.
47:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Fully that sound.
47:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's funny.
47:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm really looking forward to doing this conversation in next year and seeing like what has changed, what has grown, what we're able to accomplish, what things we're still looking forward to doing.
48:04
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, if we're still saying I love you at the end of all of our
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is the first thing we were going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were going to acknowledge it on my goodness.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
48:18
[SPEAKER_04]: That's how we end all our meetings.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's both healthy company culture and maybe at a certain point not healthy company culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not even a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't be doing that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're all so down.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, once we get in turns, we can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But uh... Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once we get in turns, not other employees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Since just once we get in, we'll talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
48:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, thank you so much for joining us for this.
48:47
[SPEAKER_04]: More unhinged than anticipated end of the year wrap up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've worked together.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're not in the school.
48:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much for joining us for all of 2025 and all the different ways and directions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We went.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're really excited for you to join us for 2026, tune in January 1st for the premiere of our season of Parals and Princesses, it is our longest season yet one of our biggest seasons yet featuring Shenukh to Sarah Abby Hepworth, Danielle Radford and Bridget Jeffries.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I can't wait for y'all to use to tell you Davis produced by L.A. Davis.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks so much with with additional editing by Jay Stroutman and music by Behold plus original character art by the designer of Parallel's and Princesses Ryan Lynch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Plus we've got product echo premiering.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've got new episodes to talk to the table.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've got bigger and better crazier round tables.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've already got like eight or nine des lined up for 2026.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to be adding more shows to the network.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're hopefully going to be doing even additional shows on top of this plus we're doing Patreon bonus content every month.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So please.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Continue following us in 2026 because we got a lot more cool stuff to share with you.
49:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You thought there were a lot of sides?
49:55
[SPEAKER_02]: There's many more where that came from.
49:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And remember, if you're already supporting the Patriot on, then you're doing it, right?
50:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I had me coming in with intros and outtroughs.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Love you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, say it Brian.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Say it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the gap.