Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 9-08-26 Hour 1 - A crazy college football weekend/Rush the field at your own risk/High Broncos hopes
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
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- 0:18Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that. I really enjoyed that weekend. That
- 0:22Speaker 2: was nice.
- 0:22Speaker 3: That was a nice thing to come back into my
- 0:24Speaker 3: system to be like, oh, back college game day on Saturday,
- 0:29Speaker 3: get that done in the morning, even though a lot
- 0:33Speaker 3: of these games were against like non-marquee opponents. I got
- 0:37Speaker 3: to tell you, I know you guys talked about CU
- 0:40Speaker 3: on Friday. Heck of a win, heck of a finish
- 0:45Speaker 3: to start their season. I was excited about the hire
- 0:49Speaker 3: of Jim Moore the second that it was announced. I
- 0:53Speaker 3: think he's going to be so good for them. You
- 0:55Speaker 3: know what they looked like that they didn't over the
- 0:57Speaker 3: last two years? That was a disciplined football team. Didn't
- 1:01Speaker 3: make mistakes, didn't commit penalties, and beat the hell out
- 1:05Speaker 3: of Wyoming. And what he said after the game I
- 1:08Speaker 3: thought was even better when he was talking about this.
- 1:11Speaker 4: The bronze boot returns to Fort Collins. Where it belongs.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Where it's going to stay for a while. What does
- 1:17Speaker 2: it mean to have this as your first game here? This, this.
- 1:21Speaker 2: These students... are unbelievable. And when I say students, I'm
- 1:25Speaker 2: including our student athletes who just played their hearts out.
- 1:29Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't beautiful early, but they just played
- 1:31Speaker 2: so well. I'm so proud of them. I'm so happy
- 1:33Speaker 2: for the community. Look at it. Look at it. That's
- 1:36Speaker 2: what college ball is all about right there. That's freaking
- 1:40Speaker 2: why I love college ball right there.
- 1:42Speaker 3: He, I'm telling you, Moj, he, to me, it just
- 1:46Speaker 3: feels so perfect.
- 1:47Speaker 2: It certainly does. It feels like it's This is, Vic,
- 1:52Speaker 2: hand-in-glove type of stuff. And as soon as he took
- 1:56Speaker 2: the job, I thought the same thing. I thought, this
- 2:00Speaker 2: is perfect because this is where he wants to... In
- 2:02Speaker 2: my mind, I'm like, he wants to die there. You're
- 2:10Speaker 2: going straight to that? Well, you know what I mean.
- 2:11Speaker 3: To your point, he doesn't take that job unless he's like, look,
- 2:14Speaker 3: I'm riding off in the sunset.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Exactly right. I am here for the long haul. I
- 2:19Speaker 2: am committed to... I want to be a Ram again.
- 2:21Speaker 2: This is important to me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 2:24Speaker 2: And I thought it was going to be really good.
- 2:26Speaker 2: And they just played a steady, eddy game and then
- 2:29Speaker 2: poured it on in the fourth quarter and pretty much
- 2:32Speaker 2: knocked those cowpokes all over the turf, Vic, pretty much.
- 2:36Speaker 4: I think we learned something about each team, and that
- 2:40Speaker 4: is each team cannot be judged on what happened in
- 2:45Speaker 4: the past. And that's the beauty of college football. I'm
- 2:48Speaker 4: going to go– do you mind– Can I go into
- 2:50Speaker 4: a little bit of a monologue here?
- 2:51Speaker 2: Sure. Because here's what I noticed. By all means. Here's
- 2:55Speaker 2: what I noticed about college football. Is it going to
- 2:57Speaker 2: be a long one? No, it's not going to be.
- 3:00Speaker 2: I'm not going to go into a full Mosier monologue.
- 3:02Speaker 4: But college football over the opening weekend, and I came
- 3:06Speaker 4: to this determination driving in, listening to you talk about
- 3:09Speaker 4: the games.
- 3:10Speaker 2: What happened in the past? Is the past now. History
- 3:14Speaker 2: is truly that. History is a waste of time.
- 3:16Speaker 4: To look at a team and evaluate that team based
- 3:19Speaker 4: on what it's done last year, the year before that, it.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't matter.
- 3:24Speaker 4: The transfer portal has microwaved the production of each outfit
- 3:30Speaker 4: to the point now where you cannot evaluate teams based
- 3:34Speaker 4: on their history or their labels. I mean, go around
- 3:37Speaker 4: the entire country and watch some of these games.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Whatever game you watch. See you. Let's start there. Well, historically,
- 3:44Speaker 2: you know, Prime's teams can't run or stop the run. Well,
- 3:47Speaker 2: they did exactly that. Yeah. Well, CSU, you know, they've
- 3:50Speaker 2: always had quarterback issues. Not anymore.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Haney came in and just lit it up. Look at
- 3:57Speaker 4: some of the national games. It doesn't matter what you've
- 4:01Speaker 4: done yesterday. I mean, Lane Kiffin walked into LSU in what,
- 4:07Speaker 4: six short months and has turned that program into Into
- 4:11Speaker 4: a national championship contender.
- 4:14Speaker 3: And Clemson, who's been good forever, looks like they're done.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Yes.
- 4:19Speaker 4: And case in point, the perfect example of that is
- 4:24Speaker 4: Jordan Seton. They showed a shot of Jordan Seton, who
- 4:26Speaker 4: has transformed his body. He looks like a completely different
- 4:29Speaker 4: human being than he did at CU.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Yep. I guess $ 3 million will do that for you.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:34Speaker 4: Because his salary was doubled by going to LSU.
- 4:37Speaker 2: So he brings in a bunch of hosses like that. Suddenly.
- 4:41Speaker 4: LSU, which has struggled recently in their standards, is a
- 4:45Speaker 4: national championship contender. I look at my school, Notre Dame.
- 4:49Speaker 4: They brought a bunch of guys back. Oh, they're going
- 4:51Speaker 4: to be great.
- 4:51Speaker 2: They look pretty stale in my book. I was not
- 4:54Speaker 2: that impressed.
- 4:55Speaker 4: They lost the running game of love and price, and
- 4:57Speaker 4: they don't look the same.
- 4:59Speaker 2: They just don't.
- 4:59Speaker 4: They don't feel the same. So you cannot measure what
- 5:04Speaker 4: they did last year. Oregon, I know that's an open hat,
- 5:07Speaker 4: but it looks like an Oregon hat, too. Ranked number
- 5:10Speaker 4: two in the country.
- 5:11Speaker 2: They look like crap. Yeah. They look like crap. Boise
- 5:16Speaker 2: was right there, dude. They were right there.
- 5:19Speaker 4: It's impossible to judge anymore. You have expectations, but the
- 5:26Speaker 4: portal has changed everything.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Well, here becomes, to your point, it's like when we
- 5:31Speaker 3: discussed the NFL coming up this weekend. We have data
- 5:35Speaker 3: to pull from to be like, I think this team
- 5:37Speaker 3: is going to do this or that, right? You can
- 5:40Speaker 3: look back to last year. Do you think the Broncos
- 5:42Speaker 3: are going to be a good football team? Yeah, because
- 5:44Speaker 3: they were good last year and they kept 46 guys
- 5:47Speaker 3: from their 53-man roster last year. Sounds like a good team.
- 5:51Speaker 3: In the case of college football and some of the
- 5:55Speaker 3: games I witnessed over the weekend, I don't know what's
- 6:01Speaker 3: happening in Michigan. I don't know what this turn is.
- 6:05Speaker 3: I don't know if this is penance for all of
- 6:07Speaker 3: the stuff that they got away with years prior to it.
- 6:10Speaker 2: They cheated.
- 6:13Speaker 3: The fact that they were gifted that.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Extra play is one of... It's disgraceful. I'm glad they
- 6:20Speaker 2: were because it makes them look worse. Well, that's the thing.
- 6:23Speaker 3: What I was talking about was it's almost more embarrassing
- 6:27Speaker 3: that they won that game than they lost.
- 6:29Speaker 2: It's embarrassing mostly for the Big Ten.
- 6:31Speaker 4: And the Big Ten officiating crew, and the Big Ten
- 6:34Speaker 4: poobahs who try to legitimize this secondary clock, this secret clock.
- 6:39Speaker 4: So now, every game we watch on national television, you're wondering,
- 6:44Speaker 4: is there another clock that we're not seeing?
- 6:47Speaker 2: You know, I hate it enough when we watch.
- 6:49Speaker 4: Replays, guys, of games. Well, we didn't get that replay
- 6:52Speaker 4: on the broadcast. You probably see that.
- 6:54Speaker 2: A lot in hockey, right? Oh, I can't stand it.
- 6:55Speaker 2: We see that in hockey. Yeah, exactly. In basketball, too.
- 6:57Speaker 4: Well, we didn't get that replay. Well, the people at home, guys,
- 7:00Speaker 4: this is a television show now. And to be part
- 7:03Speaker 4: of the television show, you cannot have inside jokes.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Inside jokes don't fly.
- 7:09Speaker 4: So either you're going to show us those angles or
- 7:12Speaker 4: we're not going to jump on that wagon.
- 7:14Speaker 2: It's stupid. You know how a conspiracy starts?
- 7:17Speaker 3: When you see something, and then they tell you, oh,
- 7:20Speaker 3: we have the actual clock, though.
- 7:22Speaker 2: That's so dumb. You're watching the fake one. It'd be
- 7:26Speaker 2: like this. I don't know what your eyeballs told you,
- 7:29Speaker 2: but they lie. Yeah, exactly. Well, no, my eyeballs told
- 7:32Speaker 2: me the frigging game is frigging over. And frigging Western
- 7:35Speaker 2: Michigan won the frigging game. Oh, no, your eyeballs are
- 7:37Speaker 2: lying to you, bro, because guess what? We got a
- 7:40Speaker 2: special clock over here with a second on it. And dude,
- 7:43Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to hear it. And it
- 7:46Speaker 2: got me to thinking.
- 7:48Speaker 4: Next time Steve here gets in our ears and tells
- 7:52Speaker 4: us clock, clock, and Shockey wants us to abide by
- 7:55Speaker 4: the clock.
- 7:56Speaker 2: We got our own clock. We got our own clock.
- 7:58Speaker 2: We got our own big 10 clock.
- 8:00Speaker 4: And that's the one we're going to abide by. Actually,
- 8:02Speaker 4: upon further review, Vic, I have the definitive clock that
- 8:05Speaker 4: you can't see.
- 8:06Speaker 2: And I see the clock that says it's time for commercial.
- 8:09Speaker 2: You can't see it, though. Here was the audio feed
- 8:12Speaker 2: of that review.
- 8:13Speaker 5: Where's it left? It wasn't there. Look at program. Let's
- 8:16Speaker 5: see here. We're taking a look here. Okay, he's jumping
- 8:19Speaker 5: from out of bounds. So when 18 is touching the football, Jim,
- 8:23Speaker 5: do you see that?
- 8:24Speaker 2: It's dead when he touches the ball.
- 8:25Speaker 5: When 18 is touching the football, we've got one second
- 8:28Speaker 5: on the clock. Do you see that?
- 8:30Speaker 2: I do.
- 8:32Speaker 5: And we've got him.
- 8:34Speaker 2: It's a program feed.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Jim, are you with me?
- 8:36Speaker 2: Yes.
- 8:36Speaker 5: Can you hear me, guys? We are going to put
- 8:39Speaker 5: one second on the game clock, and we're going to
- 8:41Speaker 5: have another play from the previous spot, okay?
- 8:45Speaker 2: Gross. The clock, why are the clocks not synced? Listen,
- 8:50Speaker 2: let's say everything they're saying is true. But why? Why?
- 8:56Speaker 2: Why are they not synced? Why is it that the
- 8:58Speaker 2: people at home don't get to trust their own eyeballs
- 9:02Speaker 2: and see that the dude clearly had not touched the
- 9:04Speaker 2: ball by the time it went triple zeros? You know
- 9:06Speaker 2: what's funny? I don't get it. If the game ends there,
- 9:09Speaker 2: is there anyone in the world Is there anyone in America?
- 9:13Speaker 4: Is there anyone at Michigan? Is there anyone on the
- 9:15Speaker 4: Michigan coaching staff? Is there anyone crying that there was
- 9:18Speaker 4: still time on the clock?
- 9:19Speaker 2: Nope. Anyone? Nope. Head coach, Kyle Whittingham, anybody?
- 9:23Speaker 4: Is there anybody that's going to knock on the Big
- 9:26Speaker 4: Ten's door, the official's door, and say, hey, I.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Think we still had three-fourths of us? Anyone? Nobody would
- 9:31Speaker 2: have said a word, right? Correct. Because the game was
- 9:34Speaker 2: over and everybody knows it was over. Yeah. That's why
- 9:36Speaker 2: it's so stupid. And because we've had people pontificating on
- 9:40Speaker 2: this for years. A couple days now since it happened
- 9:44Speaker 2: three days ago. I also agree with the idea that
- 9:49Speaker 2: if it were the other way around, there's no way
- 9:54Speaker 2: on God's green earth that Western Michigan gets another play. Yeah,
- 9:58Speaker 2: I have no proof, but I'm kidding. of it. There's
- 10:01Speaker 2: no way Western Michigan gets another play. No way. It's
- 10:08Speaker 2: like they search for an outcome they want it to happen.
- 10:11Speaker 2: They want to have happen. And they found, quote, found it.
- 10:14Speaker 2: That's just incredibly frustrating. I've seen egregious things in sports,
- 10:18Speaker 2: but When you see something that you believe with your
- 10:22Speaker 2: own eyeballs and it feels like they're ripping you off
- 10:25Speaker 2: and gaslighting you, it just leaves a horrible, horrible taste
- 10:28Speaker 2: in your mouth.
- 10:29Speaker 3: So with the way that game finished, let me ask
- 10:32Speaker 3: you a question. You have two options here for what
- 10:35Speaker 3: was more embarrassing over the college football weekend. Was it
- 10:40Speaker 3: Michigan storming the field after winning that game as 27
- 10:45Speaker 3: and a half point favorites, which I believe is the
- 10:48Speaker 3: The highest spread to ever storm the field.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Do you know what second is, by the way? What? Sorry,
- 10:55Speaker 2: since 2019.
- 10:56Speaker 3: There's been about 175 of these since 2019 in football.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Talk about storming the field? Yes.
- 11:02Speaker 4: We're not allowed, I was told by a bunch of
- 11:04Speaker 4: CU fans last year and the year before, we are
- 11:07Speaker 4: not allowed to complain about field storming because we're boomers,
- 11:13Speaker 4: we're out of touch, we don't understand the The beauty
- 11:18Speaker 4: of college ball.
- 11:19Speaker 2: So we're not allowed to discuss that.
- 11:22Speaker 3: The second highest spread to storm the field since 2019 is.
- 11:28Speaker 2: CU when they beat CSU. Doesn't surprise me. In 2023.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Was it triple overtime? What do you say? Double.
- 11:36Speaker 3: Double overtime, yeah.
- 11:37Speaker 2: Because the game has changed so much.
- 11:39Speaker 4: These kids that are storming the field, tell me you
- 11:42Speaker 4: don't know anything about college football.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Show me.
- 11:44Speaker 4: Show me you don't know a damn thing about the game.
- 11:47Speaker 4: Storm the field when you're favored by that much. And
- 11:49Speaker 4: tell me you don't know a damn thing about college ball.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Did you forget the... Or your team. Did you forget
- 11:54Speaker 2: the line you were trying to say? Yeah. What was it?
- 11:57Speaker 2: Was it one of those... Uh-huh. Tell me you don't
- 11:59Speaker 2: know college football without telling me. Without telling me you
- 12:02Speaker 2: don't know. I saw you stop. Are you telling me
- 12:09Speaker 2: that I don't think that you know what I mean?
- 12:13Speaker 2: Let me finish the question, though.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Was it Michigan fans storming the field? Or was it
- 12:19Speaker 3: Rutgers paying a million and a half dollars for UMass
- 12:21Speaker 3: to beat them and then setting off a fireworks show?
- 12:24Speaker 2: We talked about that on Friday. The fireworks went off.
- 12:27Speaker 2: It's like Well, they're loaded up anyway. Are you going
- 12:31Speaker 2: to send Jimmy up to haul all those suckers down again? No,
- 12:34Speaker 2: just shoot them off.
- 12:35Speaker 4: When I saw the Michigan fans storm the field, I've
- 12:38Speaker 4: been to the big house.
- 12:39Speaker 2: It is historic, man. It is like, you know, it's
- 12:42Speaker 2: like the Vatican. It's beautiful. There's so much history there.
- 12:45Speaker 4: When I saw these idiots storm the field after beating
- 12:48Speaker 4: Western Michigan or Central Michigan.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Was it Central? Central Western.
- 12:52Speaker 4: Let's call it Central Western. I could not help but
- 12:55Speaker 4: think to myself, what is going on with society? How
- 12:59Speaker 4: far have we fallen where these morons think this is
- 13:03Speaker 4: worthy of storming the field?
- 13:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:05Speaker 4: And again, there are going to be people listening to
- 13:07Speaker 4: the show saying, here they go again, the old guys.
- 13:11Speaker 2: You say what you want. You guys are idiots.
- 13:14Speaker 4: You have no idea what it means, what's worthy of
- 13:18Speaker 4: jumping on that field, why you're worthy to jump on
- 13:21Speaker 4: that field. If you think it's worthy to jump on
- 13:24Speaker 4: a field by beating a team you were three, four
- 13:26Speaker 4: touchdown favorites over, you're a moron.
- 13:29Speaker 2: Sorry.
- 13:31Speaker 3: A lot more to get to college football-wise. Adam Schefter
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- 13:51Speaker 3: So a lot to get to as we roll along
- 13:53Speaker 3: this week. We're heading into the first week of the
- 13:54Speaker 3: NFL season. Still a lot of college football to discuss
- 13:57Speaker 3: from over the weekend. And a few things college football-wise
- 14:00Speaker 3: that I think should.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Be of note.
- 14:03Speaker 3: Because as Vic pointed out, it's totally true. You don't
- 14:07Speaker 3: really know in this era.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Nothing.
- 14:10Speaker 3: Who's good, who's bad, who's anything. We still don't even
- 14:14Speaker 3: after one week. But there's one thing that I think
- 14:16Speaker 3: is pretty declarative. Whether you love or hate this man,
- 14:21Speaker 3: he's going to get your program right.
- 14:23Speaker 2: And we'll get to it next. Go on, we'll make adjustments.
- 14:25Speaker 2: We've got to play better in the second half. We
- 14:26Speaker 2: can't give away something like the first turnover, man. This ball, whatever, 38-0.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Thank you, Coach. Good map. Everything to say, not say.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Imagine if we had pro players. That's Lane Kiffin at halftime.
- 14:43Speaker 3: His score was 31-3. He said if we didn't have
- 14:45Speaker 3: the turnover, it should be 38-3. And then he drops a,
- 14:48Speaker 3: imagine if we had pro players at the end of this.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Here's what's funny. Smart Alec.
- 14:53Speaker 3: A lot of people hate Lane Kiffin.
- 14:55Speaker 2: I get it.
- 14:55Speaker 3: I don't even know what I feel about Lane Kiffin.
- 14:57Speaker 3: I don't hate him, but he's, you know what it
- 15:01Speaker 3: reminds me of? I feel like Lane Kiffin could be
- 15:07Speaker 3: Deion if Deion had the winning resume to go along
- 15:10Speaker 3: with it, where he's going to have a whole bunch
- 15:12Speaker 3: of people that hate him, but as long as you
- 15:14Speaker 3: do what Lane Kiffin does, it doesn't matter. Sam Levitt,
- 15:17Speaker 3: who's the quarterback now of LSU, was at Arizona State
- 15:20Speaker 3: the last couple years, Moshe.
- 15:22Speaker 2: He looked so much.
- 15:27Speaker 3: I don't want to say, like, just better. They opened
- 15:30Speaker 3: up his rushing attack. He had over 100 rushing yards
- 15:33Speaker 3: against Clemson. He had 300 on the year last year.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin is just somebody he's going to find. Whatever
- 15:40Speaker 3: it is that you have inside of you, whatever your
- 15:42Speaker 3: potential is, and he will unleash it.
- 15:45Speaker 2: We saw what happened last year.
- 15:46Speaker 3: Trinidad Chambliss, this guy who's a D2 player, Walks into
- 15:51Speaker 3: Ole Miss and takes him to a college football playoff.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Look what he did to Jordan Seton.
- 15:54Speaker 4: Again, I hate to bring that up, but he's transformed
- 15:57Speaker 4: his body just by showing up.
- 15:59Speaker 2: He is so remarkably good.
- 16:02Speaker 3: And he is so remarkably good for college football because
- 16:05Speaker 3: he's going to win football games and people are going
- 16:07Speaker 3: to despise him.
- 16:08Speaker 2: He doesn't mind playing the villain. And he doesn't care.
- 16:10Speaker 2: College football needs that. College, you're so right. Anything in sports, right?
- 16:15Speaker 4: Someone has to play the villain. Someone has to willingly
- 16:18Speaker 4: take that on. And he doesn't mind doing it.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Did you see what he did? You know, they were, Vic,
- 16:23Speaker 2: you had your own lightning delay on Friday night, did
- 16:25Speaker 2: you not, out of Echo?
- 16:27Speaker 4: One hour delay for a lightning bolt that struck, I think,
- 16:31Speaker 4: in Albuquerque.
- 16:32Speaker 2: But whatever, I'm afraid of lightning, so it's fine. Did
- 16:35Speaker 2: you lose power? No power loss. No power loss.
- 16:39Speaker 3: I was waiting for that game last night, and I
- 16:41Speaker 3: keep flipping over, I go, it's still not going?
- 16:44Speaker 2: I think XL Energy was on the call. You know
- 16:48Speaker 2: what's great?
- 16:48Speaker 3: When they went back to, you guys have been there.
- 16:53Speaker 3: I haven't because I don't do TV. The closest thing
- 16:55Speaker 3: I had to it when I was doing Summer League
- 16:57Speaker 3: and that one game before went into overtime and you're
- 17:00Speaker 3: just waiting, you're vamping, right? They were an hour 45 in.
- 17:05Speaker 3: That desk was like.
- 17:07Speaker 2: So we're still waiting for, you know, something. Kiffin says
- 17:11Speaker 2: they came to him and said you can come out early.
- 17:13Speaker 2: He said no. He said, if we're going to wait,
- 17:18Speaker 2: we're going to make Clemson wait in that crappy visitor's
- 17:21Speaker 2: locker room where it's hot, smelly. They could have gotten
- 17:25Speaker 2: that game on earlier. He said, no, we're taking the
- 17:28Speaker 2: full-time allotted. And he let them stew inside that visitor's
- 17:34Speaker 2: locker room at LSU. I mean, that's gamesmanship, right? He's
- 17:37Speaker 2: not doing anything wrong. And he said, yeah, no, no problem. Yeah,
- 17:41Speaker 2: we absolutely did that. It's pretty funny. I look at
- 17:45Speaker 2: his record. Remember, he took The Raiders job back in
- 17:47Speaker 2: the day, and he was terrible. Went to Tennessee. It
- 17:52Speaker 2: took off for USC. Do you remember that he coached
- 17:56Speaker 2: at Florida Atlantic, the Owls? Yeah. FAU, baby. FAU for
- 18:01Speaker 2: three years. Then he went to Ole Miss, obviously, and
- 18:04Speaker 2: won a lot. And now here he is at LSU.
- 18:08Speaker 2: I would say he's, is he a villain? Yeah, I
- 18:11Speaker 2: guess he is. He really relishes that role, though he
- 18:14Speaker 2: has absolutely no problem with that role. Loves it.
- 18:18Speaker 3: Well, here's the other thing in watching that game. First
- 18:21Speaker 3: of all, I'm struck by just how incredible LSU looked. Guys,
- 18:25Speaker 3: they didn't beat Clemson.
- 18:27Speaker 2: No, they dominated.
- 18:29Speaker 3: They had 644 yards of offense and held Clemson to 145.
- 18:33Speaker 3: That's clowning a team.
- 18:35Speaker 4: It also showed that two programs going in vastly different
- 18:38Speaker 4: directions because Clemson, as you know, they're just not playing
- 18:42Speaker 4: these games like they're supposed to be playing, these transfer
- 18:44Speaker 4: portal games. I know they now have embraced it, but
- 18:47Speaker 4: they're very slow to the punch and it's costing them dearly.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Dabo.
- 18:52Speaker 3: So that's the other part. Remember Dabo last year, Clemson
- 18:56Speaker 3: was struggling. And do you remember that press conference he
- 18:58Speaker 3: had where he basically, I don't know the exact quote,
- 19:01Speaker 3: but he said something like, they want to fire me.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Go ahead. I'll get a job tomorrow.
- 19:06Speaker 3: Like that's, that was his response to people criticizing him.
- 19:09Speaker 3: And look, the team wasn't good, but this reminds me
- 19:11Speaker 3: a lot. Remember when coach K was like, I'm not
- 19:14Speaker 3: having one and dones here. And it's like, Do you
- 19:16Speaker 3: want to win?
- 19:17Speaker 2: Because you're going to have to start doing a little
- 19:18Speaker 2: bit of this.
- 19:19Speaker 3: And then he finally got on board. It feels like
- 19:20Speaker 3: Dabo was like that with transfers. And then he goes, well,
- 19:23Speaker 3: I think that we have to, I Clemson's going in
- 19:27Speaker 3: a bad direction.
- 19:28Speaker 2: They are definitely behind the curve. Definitely behind. And Dabo
- 19:33Speaker 2: is the winningest coach in that franchise.
- 19:35Speaker 3: His history has been one of the best coaches in
- 19:36Speaker 3: college football last what?
- 19:38Speaker 2: 15, 20 years, whatever it is. I don't know how
- 19:41Speaker 2: he turns that thing around now.
- 19:42Speaker 3: And I don't, It's such a weird place to be
- 19:45Speaker 3: in when you have a coach like that because how
- 19:46Speaker 3: do you get to the point where if it's the end,
- 19:49Speaker 3: how do you handle that? You don't want to fire
- 19:51Speaker 3: that guy that turns your program around. But if you
- 19:54Speaker 3: go to him and say, hey, what if you step away?
- 19:56Speaker 3: And he's like, how about no? How about I just
- 19:59Speaker 3: stay here as long as I please?
- 20:00Speaker 4: They had to do the same thing at Oklahoma State
- 20:02Speaker 4: with a longtime coach.
- 20:04Speaker 2: He just didn't have it anymore, right? Yeah, but he
- 20:06Speaker 2: paid him a lot of money to go away. Gunny
- 20:08Speaker 2: did not win a natty. I understand, but it's the
- 20:10Speaker 2: same type of... They got close, though. To get close
- 20:12Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State, it's pretty crazy.
- 20:13Speaker 4: It's the same type of, like, you've been there, you're
- 20:15Speaker 4: part of the program, you built the program, you are
- 20:17Speaker 4: the program, and now, eh, we really don't want your
- 20:20Speaker 4: services anymore.
- 20:20Speaker 2: I can tell you this. The CSU hire may have
- 20:24Speaker 2: been the most brilliant hire, and we thought about it
- 20:26Speaker 2: at the time. We said it at the time. This
- 20:28Speaker 2: is perfect.
- 20:29Speaker 4: But the fact that they landed Jim Mora Jr. at
- 20:31Speaker 4: a time in his life, in his career, where this
- 20:35Speaker 4: is perfect for him, too. It's a match made in heaven.
- 20:38Speaker 2: It really is. If If you had a dating app,
- 20:41Speaker 2: that dating app hit on everything. It's called Glossite. It's
- 20:47Speaker 2: really perfect.
- 20:47Speaker 4: I mean, a coach, you know, the dating app says,
- 20:51Speaker 4: are you interested in the wild, wild west outdoors? You
- 20:55Speaker 4: like lakes. You like long walks in the park. And yes,
- 20:59Speaker 4: he said yes to everything.
- 21:00Speaker 3: You know what's funny is this is what I was
- 21:02Speaker 3: thinking about in watching CSU. In the one game that
- 21:06Speaker 3: they played, so take it with a grain of salt,
- 21:08Speaker 3: but in the one game they played, they had good
- 21:12Speaker 3: quarterback play, they ran the football effectively, they played great defense,
- 21:16Speaker 3: and they forced turnovers. And they also were penalized only
- 21:19Speaker 3: four times in that game. All of that is just
- 21:22Speaker 3: being a highly disciplined team. And I looked at the Pac-12,
- 21:25Speaker 3: and I thought to myself, if you're the more disciplined
- 21:28Speaker 3: team on a week-to-week basis in this version of the Pac-12,
- 21:32Speaker 3: You're going to win a lot. You will win a
- 21:34Speaker 3: lot of games by just not making mistakes.
- 21:36Speaker 2: And he's got a quarterback. Yeah. He's got a quarterback.
- 21:39Speaker 2: That kid makes plays. That kid's an Okie State kid, right?
- 21:41Speaker 2: I know. He makes plays. You know, I also saw
- 21:43Speaker 2: where the players, one of the players said, we've worked
- 21:46Speaker 2: harder coming into this year than ever, ever before. So
- 21:52Speaker 2: clearly he's got them on the right, you know, preparation
- 21:56Speaker 2: track in addition to X's and O's and a quarterback
- 21:58Speaker 2: that can throw the ball and play football. It's Pretty cool, man.
- 22:02Speaker 2: I'm very, very hopeful for this season.
- 22:04Speaker 4: I'm happy for CSU and the Rams fans because Canvas
- 22:08Speaker 4: is a beautiful venue.
- 22:09Speaker 2: You guys have been there. It's outstanding, superb.
- 22:14Speaker 4: And to have that many fans there watch that on
- 22:17Speaker 4: the opening night.
- 22:18Speaker 2: It was cool to see. They had over 42,000. I
- 22:21Speaker 2: don't know what Canvas holds, but I think it's right
- 22:23Speaker 2: about there. Isn't it right about 42? What is it?
- 22:27Speaker 4: It's the perfect size stadium for that kind of program.
- 22:31Speaker 2: It's perfect. It's wonderful.
- 22:35Speaker 4: And they made it wonderful. And you heard Jim Moore Jr.
- 22:37Speaker 4: at the end of the game about why he loves
- 22:39Speaker 4: college ball.
- 22:40Speaker 2: Right there. Right there. He's pointing to the fans.
- 22:45Speaker 3: Canvas Stadium has seating capacity of 36,500 but can hold
- 22:49Speaker 3: as many as 41,000.
- 22:51Speaker 2: I was wrong. It had 40,546 was the attendance. That's
- 22:54Speaker 2: freaking why I love college ball. Right there. So they
- 22:58Speaker 2: were at capacity. Back to field storming. Which, again, it's
- 23:02Speaker 2: very subjective. I understand that.
- 23:04Speaker 4: You be the judge of when it's proper to storm
- 23:07Speaker 4: the field. They stormed it after the CSU win, right?
- 23:10Speaker 2: They stormed it. Did you see the Wyoming player knock
- 23:14Speaker 2: out a couple CSU fans? Oh, yeah.
- 23:16Speaker 5: Did you see that video?
- 23:18Speaker 4: I think if you're going to endanger yourself by storming
- 23:22Speaker 4: the field and the opposing team is still on the field,
- 23:25Speaker 4: I'm of the belief that anything goes.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Ha ha ha! I mean, sorry, but that's just sort of, okay,
- 23:34Speaker 2: I get it.
- 23:35Speaker 4: Everyone wants to have fun. But if you're going to
- 23:38Speaker 4: run up on a big lineman, now you're part of
- 23:42Speaker 4: the game.
- 23:42Speaker 2: You're on the field of play.
- 23:44Speaker 3: Was that guy taunting him?
- 23:46Speaker 2: Who knows? Or was he just running by him? I
- 23:49Speaker 2: think if you taunt, it's fair game. I did not
- 23:51Speaker 2: see this. I need to see this. Oh, you haven't
- 23:54Speaker 2: seen it yet? No, I have not seen it. Brett,
- 23:56Speaker 2: put yourself in the shoes of that. Big man. I
- 23:58Speaker 2: don't know if it was an offensive or defensive lineman.
- 24:00Speaker 2: He's a big boy. You just lost the border war.
- 24:03Speaker 2: You're mad. You ever been mad after losing a game? Sure. Okay.
- 24:07Speaker 2: You're mad.
- 24:08Speaker 4: And you see some kid running around, some co-ed running
- 24:12Speaker 4: around shirtless. He's going to be mad. Things are going
- 24:16Speaker 4: to happen. This is your domain. You're on the field
- 24:19Speaker 4: of play.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Oh, okay. I just saw it. He mostly trucked him.
- 24:24Speaker 2: I have no problem. He trucked him pretty good. I
- 24:28Speaker 2: like that.
- 24:29Speaker 4: Listen, and again, there's rules about field storming in my book.
- 24:32Speaker 4: There's lines you cross, and that was fine. But if
- 24:36Speaker 4: you're going to get trucked by a player who's still
- 24:38Speaker 4: on the field, that's on you.
- 24:42Speaker 2: What if you get LeGarrette Blount territory? Please explain.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Well, LeGarrette Blount, it wasn't a fan, but remember after
- 24:50Speaker 3: the game, he got in big trouble. He got suspended
- 24:51Speaker 3: when he was at Oregon for just cold cocking some
- 24:54Speaker 3: guy who was walking off the field.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Well, let's take a look. You be the judge of this.
- 24:59Speaker 2: You watch. Oh, gosh. That was pretty. And he goes back.
- 25:04Speaker 2: He said something to him, I guarantee. He sent him
- 25:06Speaker 2: to the moon.
- 25:07Speaker 4: Yeah, I guarantee that that kid said something.
- 25:10Speaker 2: Wow, that's a tackle. Tackle for loss.
- 25:12Speaker 3: That kid flew five yards.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Yeah. He caught air. He definitely caught air. So, you know, Vic,
- 25:18Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you. You know my stance
- 25:20Speaker 2: on people running on the field in baseball and whatnot?
- 25:26Speaker 2: It's a very simple fix. Very simple. Dobermans? Dobermans. Moj,
- 25:33Speaker 2: you've seen these people. Dobermans, Shepherds, and Roddies. And I'm
- 25:36Speaker 2: telling you, they will not run on the field. Hey, guys,
- 25:40Speaker 2: are there people in this world who like to swim
- 25:41Speaker 2: among the sharks?
- 25:43Speaker 1: Yes.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Yeah. So if a shark devours a person, is it
- 25:46Speaker 2: the shark's fault? It is not. You're swimming among the sharks.
- 25:50Speaker 2: That is correct. Hey, let's check out these sharks. It's just...
- 25:54Speaker 2: I mean, think about that for a second.
- 25:56Speaker 4: If you're saying that everybody on the field is fair
- 25:59Speaker 4: game to get blown up by somebody.
- 26:01Speaker 2: Walking off the field... That guy ran up on him, though.
- 26:03Speaker 2: That guy ran right up on him. Which is fine.
- 26:06Speaker 3: Like I said, if you get in their face and
- 26:07Speaker 3: go nana-nana-boo-boo, like, you deserve to get sent five yards.
- 26:11Speaker 2: It's fine. Now, if you're just trying to sidestep them.
- 26:15Speaker 3: and you happen to cross paths, and he's angry, and
- 26:17Speaker 3: he wants to take the anger out on somebody who's just.
- 26:19Speaker 2: Running by him. Different story. You know what? I think
- 26:22Speaker 2: it's fair, too. It's a get-out-of-jail-free card. If they're storming
- 26:25Speaker 2: the field and they're running at you, you know what?
- 26:27Speaker 2: I'd start targeting. Here's the deal. I'd start picking my victims. Bam!
- 26:32Speaker 2: I just lost a game. I'm in the border war.
- 26:34Speaker 2: I'm emotional. I'm an emotional wreck.
- 26:36Speaker 4: All I'm trying to do is get to my locker
- 26:38Speaker 4: room mad, and I got a bunch of shirtless people running.
- 26:42Speaker 2: No, someone's taking it. Someone's paying the price. Um, I mean,
- 26:47Speaker 2: what if, I mean, the kid doesn't have a weapon
- 26:49Speaker 2: or anything, but yeah, I guess you never know. You
- 26:51Speaker 2: never know. What if you get five of those little
- 26:53Speaker 2: runts running up on alignment and try to take him to,
- 26:55Speaker 2: I don't know. Hey, I'm saying, Hey, there's no jury.
- 26:59Speaker 2: No jury would convict me. If I'm trucking dudes all
- 27:02Speaker 2: over the field because they're running.
- 27:03Speaker 5: Up on it.
- 27:04Speaker 3: What if we get in this territory? Is there a
- 27:06Speaker 3: line that's drawn? Texture says, I heard this. Didn't see video.
- 27:10Speaker 3: There was, I guess another one that happened too, but
- 27:13Speaker 3: it was a, it was a woman. Who got hit
- 27:15Speaker 3: like that?
- 27:15Speaker 2: Don't run on the field. So there's no lines. Equal opportunity.
- 27:19Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. I raise a very pertinent question
- 27:22Speaker 2: at this point. How big was the woman? Is she
- 27:28Speaker 2: like a Minnesota Wild fan size? Brett. If she's a
- 27:33Speaker 2: Minnesota Wild fan size, she could be playing for Wyoming. Brett.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Look how big and thick he is. You're a great
- 27:41Speaker 2: white shark. You're just going about your day. Looking for
- 27:45Speaker 2: a seal hanging out. Yeah, you're hungry. You're hungry, right?
- 27:47Speaker 2: You're trying to feed your family. And I'm angry because
- 27:49Speaker 2: I haven't found my food. You're trying to feed your family.
- 27:51Speaker 2: You're feeding your family, right? You're in the waters.
- 27:54Speaker 4: All of a sudden, some old lady with a Polaroid
- 27:58Speaker 4: pops up in front of you trying to take pictures.
- 28:02Speaker 2: I'm eating.
- 28:05Speaker 3: When you say feed your family, I don't think sharks
- 28:09Speaker 3: are the type of people that get a kill and
- 28:11Speaker 3: then bring it back to.
- 28:13Speaker 2: Little Tommy and Susie. No, it's like they're sitting down
- 28:17Speaker 2: at the table and eating right there. See, here we go.
- 28:19Speaker 2: We're coming up with this again.
- 28:21Speaker 4: And I got the same reaction after the Jaden McDaniels
- 28:24Speaker 4: episode with the Nuggets.
- 28:26Speaker 2: Someone on the Twitch feed said, Vic, you're just condoning violence. Yeah,
- 28:30Speaker 2: I am.
- 28:31Speaker 4: Just like I was during that basketball series against Minnesota.
- 28:35Speaker 4: 100% condoning violence.
- 28:37Speaker 2: I just thought about something. Hey, were you condoning something
- 28:40Speaker 2: during that? Were you of the same.
- 28:43Speaker 4: same feel yeah yeah i didn't say a fan should
- 28:46Speaker 4: run out there and start.
- 28:47Speaker 2: I'm not saying use a trident.
- 28:50Speaker 3: You know what what's really funny about this there's an
- 28:53Speaker 3: old bill burr bit where he talks about if somebody
- 28:58Speaker 3: gets uh uh attacked by an alligator or something it's
- 29:02Speaker 3: like well nobody would ask questions he goes yes you
- 29:04Speaker 3: would it would say, were you messing with it? It's
- 29:08Speaker 3: kind of like, to me, that's how I'm applying the
- 29:11Speaker 3: court storming or the field storming stuff. If you get
- 29:13Speaker 3: blown up, my first question is, well, were you messing
- 29:16Speaker 3: with him?
- 29:17Speaker 2: Well, that reminds me of the Norm Macdonald story and
- 29:23Speaker 2: the joke about the crocodile hunter. Yeah, it's... Which... Some
- 29:28Speaker 2: fruity fish. It wasn't even... Was it Jim? No, it
- 29:32Speaker 2: was just some fish. Did he say, like, the tragic death?
- 29:34Speaker 2: He goes, well.
- 29:36Speaker 2: He's the crocodile. He's the crocodile hunter. What do you expect?
- 29:40Speaker 2: And you're messing with the stingray. I mean, it's sad.
- 29:42Speaker 2: It's tragic. But I get what you're saying. From David
- 29:46Speaker 2: on the text line.
- 29:47Speaker 4: A Lombardian Mosier trying to argue violence against fans is
- 29:50Speaker 4: okay because they're no better than their basic animal instincts.
- 29:54Speaker 2: I'd like to think that those.
- 29:55Speaker 4: Two would be one step above chimp or shark.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Okay. The people who are on the field do not
- 30:00Speaker 2: belong there. I mean, you don't know what somebody's intent
- 30:05Speaker 2: is when they come onto your playing field and mess
- 30:09Speaker 2: with your playing field. Turn around.
- 30:11Speaker 3: On the TV right now, there is a bear that's
- 30:13Speaker 3: inside somebody's car. Now, if you got in the driver's
- 30:16Speaker 3: seat of that car.
- 30:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my car. It's a cougar in the car.
- 30:20Speaker 2: So you have to understand the boundaries, right? Yeah.
- 30:24Speaker 4: Like, what are your boundaries? I'm not going in that car. Well,
- 30:28Speaker 4: if you want to celebrate your wedding anniversary.
- 30:31Speaker 2: It's my car.
- 30:32Speaker 3: Does that car have two kilos of Colombian Bam Bam
- 30:35Speaker 3: in the trunk, too?
- 30:36Speaker 2: It's a cougar in the car. I know there's a
- 30:38Speaker 2: cougar in the car. I put him in there. This
- 30:41Speaker 2: is so funny.
- 30:41Speaker 3: This bear's just chilling in this passenger seat.
- 30:45Speaker 4: Guys, there's a texter here who says, Hey, CSU fan here.
- 30:49Speaker 2: I was at the game. There was a big message
- 30:51Speaker 2: on the screen telling fans to wait 60 seconds before
- 30:55Speaker 2: rushing the field.
- 30:56Speaker 4: To let Wyoming get off the field. These fans did
- 31:00Speaker 4: not wait. You have a warning sign above you.
- 31:02Speaker 2: I don't care who you are. I don't care who the.
- 31:06Speaker 4: If you don't abide by the warnings, You're going to
- 31:08Speaker 4: get trucked by a Wyoming defensive lineman.
- 31:11Speaker 2: That's the way it should be.
- 31:12Speaker 3: Speaking of violence, because that's what that sport is, I
- 31:16Speaker 3: think my favorite two minutes of the college football weekend...
- 31:22Speaker 3: Did you guys see Indiana's new quarterback get his head
- 31:25Speaker 3: almost ripped off with the face mask?
- 31:26Speaker 2: Well, the helmet went backwards on his head. Yes. That
- 31:30Speaker 2: was scary.
- 31:31Speaker 3: So messed up his nose. His nose was like crooked.
- 31:34Speaker 3: He's got blood everywhere. Here's my question, though.
- 31:37Speaker 2: Josh Hoover. Yes.
- 31:42Speaker 3: In sports, don't they stop you if you're bleeding? Does
- 31:45Speaker 3: football not have those rules apply?
- 31:47Speaker 4: I guess not, because football, it's impossible to police. But
- 31:50Speaker 4: that was a faucet coming down. Yeah, but everybody's bleeding
- 31:53Speaker 4: at some point in football. In basketball, they stop the game.
- 31:55Speaker 4: They stop everything. They clean you up. They make sure
- 31:57Speaker 4: you're not bleeding.
- 31:58Speaker 2: Yeah, in hockey, when guys are bleeding in hockey, they
- 32:01Speaker 2: stop the game forever. Make sure they're all fit.
- 32:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 32:04Speaker 2: Of course they don't. I mean, guys are what?
- 32:07Speaker 3: When somebody's leaking through their face, they do stop hockey
- 32:10Speaker 3: and they shave the ice down.
- 32:11Speaker 2: They do. They do. But, I mean, but guys still,
- 32:14Speaker 2: they still got stuff on, you know, on their face
- 32:16Speaker 2: and blood and all that.
- 32:17Speaker 3: Yeah, but that guy is leaking as he's taking a snap.
- 32:19Speaker 3: It's probably getting on the football. Hockey does stop it
- 32:23Speaker 3: for that.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Yeah, but, you know, COVID's over, so they don't care anymore.
- 32:26Speaker 2: Game goes on. I don't know if that's the case.
- 32:31Speaker 2: It was just shocking.
- 32:31Speaker 4: What do you mean it's not the case? If that
- 32:33Speaker 4: happened four years ago, would they have stopped the game?
- 32:38Speaker 4: If that exact thing happened four years ago, do you
- 32:39Speaker 4: think they would have stopped the game?
- 32:40Speaker 3: Probably.
- 32:42Speaker 2: COVID was not a bodily fluid. It wasn't blood transferred.
- 32:47Speaker 2: He was simply... I mean, if we had an Ebola epidemic,
- 32:50Speaker 2: perhaps they would say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There was
- 32:54Speaker 2: a transfusion taking place mid-game. I was just like... It
- 32:59Speaker 2: was just so funny to me. And then he goes
- 33:01Speaker 2: out and he rifles a touchdown. It was pretty bad.
- 33:03Speaker 2: I mean, it was, I sent you the thing. This
- 33:04Speaker 2: is why I love college football. And I mean, he's
- 33:07Speaker 2: literally bleeding out of his mouth and his nose. It's
- 33:10Speaker 2: dripping everywhere. It's all over his mouth guard, all over
- 33:13Speaker 2: his face mask. And he's like, Lou 36.
- 33:15Speaker 4: So college football polls, you just hit on something. They're
- 33:21Speaker 4: so dumb and they're so crazy. If I asked you today,
- 33:23Speaker 4: who's the best team in the country?
- 33:25Speaker 2: Nobody knows. Even after week one, right? You don't know
- 33:29Speaker 2: that it's LSU. You have no idea. You don't know.
- 33:31Speaker 3: If you're basing it just off of a performance after
- 33:33Speaker 3: one week, I would say LSU.
- 33:34Speaker 2: We don't know.
- 33:34Speaker 4: We don't know how good Clemson really is. Did you
- 33:37Speaker 4: watch any of that SMU Florida.
- 33:39Speaker 2: State game last night? I did, yeah. Terrific football game.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Kevin Jennings is a baller. Those guys, both those teams
- 33:44Speaker 2: might be pretty good, but we don't know it yet.
- 33:46Speaker 2: SMU's pretty highly ranked right now. Yeah. And Jennings was awesome.
- 33:51Speaker 2: So I'm saying, you know, you just, you, you really
- 33:53Speaker 2: can't tell you're going to have to have some base
- 33:56Speaker 2: of evidence to go by after week three, four, and
- 33:59Speaker 2: so on. And we're going to have some big games
- 34:00Speaker 2: coming up this weekend. I mean, Ohio state is on
- 34:02Speaker 2: the road in Texas this weekend. I get any bigger
- 34:06Speaker 2: than that.
- 34:07Speaker 3: Uh, so time change here. We'll talk to Adam Schefter
- 34:09Speaker 3: at eight 20 this morning, getting you ready for week
- 34:12Speaker 3: one of the NFL season back after this. Hey, um,
- 34:15Speaker 3: Adam Schefter is going to join us at in about
- 34:18Speaker 3: 30 minutes. Uh, I heard DMACC talking about this last week,
- 34:23Speaker 3: and I do think that this is, I don't want
- 34:27Speaker 3: to say inarguable, but pretty close. He was talking about
- 34:30Speaker 3: if you aren't expecting the Broncos to make the Super
- 34:32Speaker 3: Bowl this year, then what are you waiting for? What's
- 34:35Speaker 3: holding you back? And think about what we're talking about here.
- 34:38Speaker 3: A team that won 14 games last year, made the
- 34:41Speaker 3: AFC Championship game. We all think a healthy quarterback away
- 34:45Speaker 3: from making the Super Bowl, and who knows what happens.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Maybe you win, maybe you lose.
- 34:48Speaker 3: I don't know. You retain your entire roster essentially coming back.
- 34:53Speaker 3: You add a sorely needed playmaker to the offense and
- 34:56Speaker 3: one that's dynamic and explosive.
- 35:00Speaker 2: What would be the holdup?
- 35:01Speaker 3: And are the Broncos now in this territory of where
- 35:04Speaker 3: the Avs and the Nuggets find themselves, which is the
- 35:07Speaker 3: Avs make it all the way to the Western Conference Finals, lose,
- 35:09Speaker 3: and you feel like the world's coming to an end?
- 35:12Speaker 2: Are they there? Because I think they should be. The
- 35:14Speaker 2: expectations are to compete for a championship. Are they not? Mm-hmm.
- 35:18Speaker 4: They're the same expectations that those other two teams you
- 35:20Speaker 4: just mentioned have had over the last couple of years, correct?
- 35:23Speaker 4: So if you don't meet the expectations, especially after coming
- 35:26Speaker 4: to the doorstep last year, you understand why they weren't
- 35:30Speaker 4: able to knock down that door.
- 35:32Speaker 2: A great reason why. But if you don't have those expectations,
- 35:36Speaker 2: what are you doing? Of course you should have. Yeah, Vic. Yeah,
- 35:39Speaker 2: but I think in all of our own minds, we
- 35:44Speaker 2: have expectations for sure. But there's a certain amount of
- 35:48Speaker 2: reality that sets in with every single one of these teams.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Like the Nuggets right now, I have expectations of playoffs
- 35:55Speaker 2: and so on, but that's kind of where I'm at.
- 35:58Speaker 2: That's kind of it.
- 35:59Speaker 3: They've fallen off that over the last couple of years.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Now with the Avs, this is going to sound biased
- 36:04Speaker 2: because I do the Avalanche games. But, dude, they are
- 36:09Speaker 2: a big favorite to win it all. But, Moshe, they
- 36:11Speaker 2: were the best team in the league for five months
- 36:13Speaker 2: last year. So there's a certain amount of belief that
- 36:16Speaker 2: creeps in that's more than it is for the Nuggets.
- 36:19Speaker 2: And for me, more than it is for the Broncos.
- 36:21Speaker 2: I guess because I look at the AFC and I
- 36:24Speaker 2: realize how difficult it is just to get through the
- 36:26Speaker 2: damn AFC. Now, maybe we should throw all of those
- 36:29Speaker 2: expectations on the Denver Broncos. All of them. Maybe we should. But,
- 36:35Speaker 2: and I guess I feel about the Broncos the same
- 36:36Speaker 2: way I feel about the Patriots who went to the
- 36:38Speaker 2: damn Super Bowl. Okay, wait, how about this then?
- 36:40Speaker 3: Let me ask it this way.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Is this the first time in 10 years.
- 36:48Speaker 3: That when you are ranking teams that you think have
- 36:50Speaker 3: a shot to win a championship that the Avs and
- 36:53Speaker 3: Nuggets aren't the top two anymore?
- 36:55Speaker 2: The Avs are number one.
- 36:57Speaker 3: I'm saying those, they aren't the top two. Oh, you
- 37:00Speaker 3: mean the top two. So you would take Nuggets out
- 37:02Speaker 3: and put the Broncos at two?
- 37:03Speaker 2: Yes, I would. I would, yes, absolutely.
- 37:06Speaker 3: I think that's probably true. Like, it's the first time
- 37:10Speaker 3: in forever that's been the case, though.
- 37:11Speaker 2: But I also, again, I'm watching over the weekend all
- 37:13Speaker 2: of this Patrick Mahomes stuff. And, you know, Graziano, everybody's like, look,
- 37:20Speaker 2: I'm watching him. He looks like old Patrick Mahomes. He
- 37:24Speaker 2: looks like that guy. I know they had a crappy season.
- 37:27Speaker 2: I know that they're not what they used to be,
- 37:30Speaker 2: but they still have that guy. So then that's where
- 37:32Speaker 2: that doubt creeps into my head, even inside the damn division.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Holy crap. It just hit me. What's that? There's an
- 37:40Speaker 2: NFL football game tomorrow. Tomorrow? Yes, there is. It's a
- 37:43Speaker 2: rematch of the Super Bowl. I'm like, wait, tomorrow? Super
- 37:46Speaker 2: Bowl rematch. So listen, this is inarguable, right? By the way, yeah.
- 37:51Speaker 2: By the way, the New England Patriots are in Seattle
- 37:53Speaker 2: as we speak.
- 37:56Speaker 3: This is inarguable, right? If I said this, is this
- 38:01Speaker 3: true or false? If we're just talking about winning the conference, okay?
- 38:07Speaker 2: In each sport.
- 38:08Speaker 3: The Avs are most likely to win the Western Conference.
- 38:11Speaker 2: Correct.
- 38:13Speaker 3: Then the Broncos would be most likely to win the West.
- 38:16Speaker 2: The AFC. The AFC, yes. The AFC or the West.
- 38:19Speaker 2: The AFC. They're most likely to win the West, for sure.
- 38:22Speaker 2: But the whole AFC... And then it would be Nuggets, right?
- 38:27Speaker 2: Then it would be Nuggets, correct.
- 38:28Speaker 3: They would have the least likely shot to overcome the
- 38:31Speaker 3: Spurs and the Thunder and everybody else.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Hell, Minnesota, which is painful to say.
- 38:37Speaker 3: The funny thing, though, is if I said this, and
- 38:39Speaker 3: this is where I'm at with the Broncos because we
- 38:41Speaker 3: have said on numerous occasions, I will say it tens
- 38:45Speaker 3: of times more before Monday night, I don't think the
- 38:49Speaker 3: Broncos are going to get to 14 wins again this year.
- 38:51Speaker 3: I just think it's going to be borderline impossible. My
- 38:54Speaker 3: goal for the Broncos, bare minimum, is just make the playoffs.
- 38:58Speaker 3: As long as they're in the dance, I'm okay with that.
- 39:01Speaker 3: If that's a 10-7 record, to me, it's like, whatever.
- 39:05Speaker 2: You got to get in the dance.
- 39:06Speaker 4: Yes, it'd be great to win the West again and
- 39:09Speaker 4: get a home playoff game and be number one in
- 39:11Speaker 4: the AFC and all that stuff.
- 39:13Speaker 2: That'd be great.
- 39:14Speaker 3: I'm less concerned with that as just like, get in.
- 39:18Speaker 3: And once I think you're in there, they have, if
- 39:21Speaker 3: there's five things in football, that a team needs to
- 39:25Speaker 3: be successful and to be a championship contender. It's good
- 39:29Speaker 3: quarterback play at a minimum. probably great, but good at
- 39:31Speaker 3: a minimum, offensive line play, edge rushing, secondary, and a playmaker.
- 39:38Speaker 3: The Broncos have all of that stuff.
- 39:39Speaker 2: They have all that. They have it all there. You
- 39:42Speaker 2: make the.
- 39:42Speaker 3: Playoffs and you dominate offensive and defensive line like they did.
- 39:45Speaker 2: Yeah, but Vic, Brett, do me a favor right now
- 39:48Speaker 2: in your brains. You're a little pea brain. Not much
- 39:52Speaker 2: room left here, dude. Not in the brain area. Okay.
- 39:56Speaker 2: All right, in your... Is there room in the groin area? Yeah,
- 39:59Speaker 2: where's the... Where's the room? What area has the room?
- 40:01Speaker 2: Like your flank? I'm just trying to forget, like, minor words.
- 40:05Speaker 2: Words that you... Seriously. Okay. I'm just trying to forget, like...
- 40:08Speaker 2: Easy words. Like, the... I forgot how to... This is
- 40:13Speaker 2: about five years ago, Brett. I forgot how to spell
- 40:15Speaker 2: the word who. Who? In my brain. I couldn't think
- 40:18Speaker 2: of how to spell it. I get words that are
- 40:20Speaker 2: like that, too. That was freaky to me. Like, that
- 40:22Speaker 2: is a, what, a senior moment? I don't know what
- 40:24Speaker 2: you call that. But it was weird.
- 40:25Speaker 4: Do you ever have a certain word that you can
- 40:27Speaker 4: never remember? And you always, always, like, okay, I'm not
- 40:30Speaker 4: going to forget this word this time. And you always
- 40:32Speaker 4: go back to the well, and you can't remember that.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Not words, names. I've got words.
- 40:37Speaker 3: There are people I see, and I'm like, how do
- 40:39Speaker 3: I not know your name by now?
- 40:40Speaker 2: That's true. How do I not know this? But use
- 40:43Speaker 2: your brains in this regard. Okay, got it. Separate your
- 40:45Speaker 2: expectations this year for the Denver Broncos with how they
- 40:50Speaker 2: got to 14 wins last season. Try to separate those two, okay?
- 40:55Speaker 2: Because I think how they got to 14 wins, and yes,
- 40:59Speaker 2: they were an injured quarterback away from playing in the
- 41:01Speaker 2: Super Damn Bowl. I like that name better. The Super
- 41:05Speaker 2: Damn Bowl. Super Damn Bowl. Seriously, that's good. W.superdamsbowls.com.
- 41:11Speaker 3: It's like the bleeping Catalina wine mixer.
- 41:13Speaker 2: Exactly. So how they got to 14 wins, well, it
- 41:18Speaker 2: was very anomalous. Very. Time of possession-wise and... The turnover
- 41:23Speaker 2: battle-wise and one score game-wise and teams giving them games
- 41:28Speaker 2: away and all these kinds of things. So it's, yeah,
- 41:30Speaker 2: they got the 14 wins and yeah, you know what?
- 41:32Speaker 2: They earned a hell of a lot, but it's hard
- 41:35Speaker 2: for me to separate that out when I come into
- 41:37Speaker 2: this season, which is why you said with a tougher schedule,
- 41:40Speaker 2: a first place schedule, 14 wins seems like it would
- 41:45Speaker 2: be a miracle if they got there again. See, I'm
- 41:47Speaker 2: at that. There it is. It's happening again. The words.
- 41:51Speaker 2: There's a word. And I always go back to analog.
- 41:54Speaker 2: It's not analog. What is the word? Analogy? No. And
- 41:59Speaker 2: I never get this word right. Digital? Analogous. No! It's
- 42:03Speaker 2: when you go.
- 42:04Speaker 4: Through your feed and it automatically brings up videos that you.
- 42:07Speaker 2: Algorithm. Yes! Why do I always go to analog? I
- 42:12Speaker 2: don't know. I'll never... To my dying second, I will
- 42:18Speaker 2: never remember that word. Or be able to use it correctly.
- 42:21Speaker 2: It's just one of those things. It's a malfunction. Again,
- 42:23Speaker 2: I had my analog. I had the most difficult time
- 42:27Speaker 2: in my life. I never have problems with hockey names ever,
- 42:31Speaker 2: but I've had a problem with one name. And when
- 42:35Speaker 2: he came into the league with the Detroit Red Wings,
- 42:37Speaker 2: I couldn't I just I couldn't do it. His name
- 42:38Speaker 2: was is Andreas Athanasiu. Yeah. And I couldn't say Athanasiu. Athanasiu. Athanasiu.
- 42:46Speaker 2: So I had to say to myself over and over again,
- 42:48Speaker 2: happy to see you. I'm happy to see you. Happy
- 42:50Speaker 2: to see you. Athanasiu. Happy to see you. I had
- 42:52Speaker 2: to train my frigging head because I couldn't. That's the
- 42:56Speaker 2: one name I couldn't get out. Wasn't that how Marty
- 42:58Speaker 2: greeted you every morning? Hey, Moshe. Athanasiu. Yeah. Athanasiu too,
- 43:04Speaker 2: Jack Wagon.
- 43:06Speaker 3: We'll talk to Adam Schefter more about this at 820.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Can I tell you something remarkable today? I had to
- 43:13Speaker 2: stop at the gas station down the street, down there
- 43:15Speaker 2: in Quebec. Get a can of chew on the way in.
- 43:20Speaker 2: There was a guy out there, a rough guy, not
- 43:24Speaker 2: on a phone, I can promise you that. But he
- 43:27Speaker 2: was standing outside the gas station, down the way a
- 43:31Speaker 2: little bit, and he was having a conversation with someone
- 43:36Speaker 2: who wasn't there. I do that every day. It wasn't, no,
- 43:41Speaker 2: I'm talking about, he wasn't crazy talking, stumbling around and
- 43:43Speaker 2: whatever else. He was literally having like a normal human discussion.
- 43:51Speaker 2: Don't you have a pretend friend? Was it Nelly? It
- 43:53Speaker 2: was not Steve. I'm not kidding, Moshe.
- 43:57Speaker 3: I walk in here sometimes at, let's be honest, 5, 59, 52.
- 44:00Speaker 2: And Nelly is speaking. And I look in the room
- 44:07Speaker 2: and there's nobody there. And Nellie goes, yeah, sometimes they
- 44:09Speaker 2: just talk. It's like, oh, okay. Creep. I don't know
- 44:15Speaker 2: if this was, let me explain before we get to
- 44:18Speaker 2: break here. Either because he was, you know, obviously had
- 44:25Speaker 2: mental issues. But his mannerism, it could have been a
- 44:30Speaker 2: Wall Street broker. He's talking to someone and having a
- 44:33Speaker 2: conversation with someone who was not there. Now, that being said,
- 44:38Speaker 2: maybe somebody was there. I just couldn't see that person.
- 44:40Speaker 2: You've been locked in your room all day? I mean,
- 44:42Speaker 2: it happens all the time. Moshe, you ever go to
- 44:43Speaker 2: the grocery store? You have your AirPods in. You're talking.
- 44:45Speaker 2: You're having a conversation. No, no, Vic, I'm telling you.
- 44:47Speaker 2: He went by me. He came out of the store
- 44:49Speaker 2: when I went. Moshe, Moshe. You're acting like an old man. I...
- 44:54Speaker 2: Are you telling me you've never seen... Is that the
- 44:56Speaker 2: first time you've seen that? Where have you been?
- 44:58Speaker 3: A homeless person that might be dealing with some sort of.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Problem that talks to themselves? What is wrong with you? Dude,
- 45:04Speaker 2: I've seen guys beat up trash cans and getting in
- 45:06Speaker 2: a fight with a trash can downtown. Getting in a
- 45:08Speaker 2: fight with the streets.
- 45:08Speaker 3: So why are you acting like this is the most
- 45:10Speaker 3: surprising thing in the world?
- 45:11Speaker 2: This happens. Because of the calm nature of this guy. No,
- 45:15Speaker 2: there were no listening devices. There was nothing like that.
- 45:18Speaker 2: Believe me when I tell you. This guy was struggling. Moshe,
- 45:22Speaker 2: don't look at your computer. I'm going to end this
- 45:24Speaker 2: segment with this. Y-E-S spells the word yes. Correct. What
- 45:31Speaker 2: does E-Y-E-S spell? Eyes. Damn it. I would have said E-S. No,
- 45:38Speaker 2: you wouldn't have. Probably.
- 45:41Speaker 3: What does F-A-T spell?
- 45:42Speaker 2: Fat. What does H-E-R spell? H-E-R? H-E-R. Her. Put them together.
- 45:52Speaker 2: At her. I know it's father. Yeah, father. Eric says, Moj,
- 45:59Speaker 2: no one cares. No, no, no, I'm sorry, Moj.
- 46:01Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt your story about a guy who was
- 46:03Speaker 3: talking to himself.
- 46:03Speaker 2: That's my bad. I shouldn't have done that. You're right.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Bad decision on my part. Moj, I do have to say.
- 46:08Speaker 2: I think I now believe in the supernatural because there
- 46:10Speaker 2: had to be a ghost. There had to be somebody
- 46:12Speaker 2: in front of him. No, Moj, it was just the
- 46:13Speaker 2: guy that was dealing with something.
- 46:15Speaker 4: Can we get the, the only way Moj shuts up
- 46:18Speaker 4: about this stuff is if you text it in. Did
- 46:20Speaker 4: Moj waste five minutes of our morning this morning?
- 46:23Speaker 2: Yes or no? Did Mosher wait? Straw pole. Oh, yeah. Hey, guys.
- 46:30Speaker 2: I saw something that's never been seen before. What? Bad dog.
- 46:34Speaker 2: Guy talking to himself. I'm not saying that. Oh, my God.
- 46:37Speaker 2: He wasn't talking to himself. He was carrying out what
- 46:41Speaker 2: looked to be a very normal conversation as if somebody
- 46:45Speaker 2: else was standing there, bro.
- 46:46Speaker 3: We're just going to move on from this. Adam Schefter
- 46:48Speaker 3: is going to join us at 820.
- 46:49Speaker 2: Supernatural.