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The End of an Era · Tigs Bits Podcast

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  All right, all right. Welcome to Tigs Bits.
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  Tonight we are beginning Season 3 here on the show, but we're
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  going to be talking about the end of an era.
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  As we know, yesterday Nick Saban announced he was retiring from
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  the University of Alabama. Pete Carroll was fired as well
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  from the Seahawks. And then today, Bill Belichick
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  is parting ways with the Patriots.
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  What a wild couple of days it has been.
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  So we're just going to get into that.
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  Look, this makes the second coaching departure that the show
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  has experienced in the past month.
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  We have someone in here with a little experience with this.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back as always.
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  Mr. Chad Blasey, AKA Blasey, the One Man Posse.
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  Welcome. What?
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  Is happening there, Tiggs. How you doing, brother, Man,
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  Crazy times. Crazy times.
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  Turn the page on a lot of people, man.
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  This is wild. You know it is wild.
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  You don't expect to see. Especially, I mean, the top of
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  the food chain like that. Belichick Sabin, I know in the
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  same year. I mean, one's just completely
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  done. The other one's moving on.
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  He's not done yet. But I don't know where he's
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  going. What happens with him next.
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  And then like you said, you got Pete Carroll.
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  You know, I didn't realize he'd been out there as long as he
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  had. When they announced it the other
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  day, I was like, Dang, this cat's been doing this for a
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  minute too up there, you know, he just becomes Seattle, you
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  know. So yeah, I mean it's it's
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  definitely crazy times here in in football land you know, with
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  every with all the changes you know college and nil and portal
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  and and we're going, we're going.
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  To Yeah, we're going to dive in into all of that.
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  You would think, you know, college football season ended
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  Monday national championship game.
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  Michigan takes care of Washington.
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  Kind of a ho hum game really. But you know, that's the end of
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  the season. There'll be some coaching
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  changes, there'll be some recruiting news, some players
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  transferring and all that. And then bam, Nick Saban's
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  retiring. Like holy.
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  Cow man. Believable.
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  He wins that football game and he wins the national
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  championship. I think everybody talked about
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  you might could expect that to happen but to I mean he had a
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  still got a great. I mean obviously unbelievable
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  career but it's still a great season.
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  I mean, you may get the playoffs, you go to overtime and
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  gets the national champion. Like, you know what I mean?
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  Like it's about as good as it gets, You know what I mean?
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  You're you're a couple plays away from being right there
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  doing the same thing. So I guess to him he was like,
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  whatever man, let's, I'm still on top.
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  Let's just let's exit. It's time to go.
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  That's right. That's right.
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  That's right. I mean, but it.
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  Surprised me. It surprised me.
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  It it surprised me too, but at but at the same time not totally
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  not totally surprised that that you know that it kind of played
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  out. I heard him I think he was on
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  Pat McAfee maybe Tuesday and I went they I think he point blank
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  asked him are you going to retire coach and all that and he
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  kind of gave an answer that didn't really he did certainly
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  did not say no I went it was then I went I I think he may
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  actually, I think he may hang it up.
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  This actually may happen and and it's A and it's a bitter
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  Honestly, it's a bittersweet kind of kind of deal as an LSU
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  guy and we're going to have some controversy.
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  Jr. the handlers sitting on the sidelines getting ready to hop
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  in here probably cuss my ass out up and down.
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  I'm fine with it. Made a little thumbnail earlier
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  today to post that we were going to be going Live Today and
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  somehow or another, the only good photograph I could find, a
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  Nick Saban was him wearing an LSU man.
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  He looked amazing though. He looked tan young.
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  I mean that's the saving that I remember 19 years ago.
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  Yeah, probably when the picture. Was taken at least at least.
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  But yeah, I added that in there. It was just for a little bit of
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  fun it. Was funny.
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  I did not pick up on that until I saw Jr. fire back on it.
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  And it's like I said, what's he talking about?
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  I went back. I was like, Oh my God, how did I
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  not notice that? E-mail season never ends.
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  We never sleep here. We're in the middle of a
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  coaching search now and I'm I'm riding with it.
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  It's fun. But anyhow, without further ado,
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  we do have Mr. Jr. the handler in here.
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  Just. Flew in town.
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  Just flip. God knows where he came from.
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  Handler welcome. Hey, what's going?
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  Off some private jet somewhere. Man.
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  What? Where'd you fly in from?
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  Oh, where you been lately? Oh, just a little condo down on
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  the coast doing some remodeling today.
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  Not as glamorous as some days. What's going on, guys?
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  Anything interesting happening lately?
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  I hadn't heard anything. I mean, just pretty normal.
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  Now it's pretty quiet in the coaching world, what I've called
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  football and Pro Football. Yeah.
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  No football, No comedians calling anybody now.
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  No former quarterbacks calling out a TV show host.
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  I mean, it's just this is so awesome that we've had such a
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  quiet, uneventful week so far. It's unbelievable.
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  My phone's still blowing up. There's still things happening
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  around the world. There's no way we could cover
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  everything. There isn't enough.
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  You just need to be in a continuous emergency podcast
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  mode. You just want to stay here all
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  the time. One of us should just stay here
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  all the time and just the other one pop in with on me just.
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  Come on in. Somebody you need a break.
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  Need a bathroom break. You know somebody else.
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  Come in. Handle the next shift.
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  It is coming and going. It's coming in 1,000,000 miles
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  an hour. But Jr. we know this has been
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  tough. We see you've got your tide gear
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  on. I've.
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  I've been through. I've been through this man.
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  I tried to respond back to your your little ex post with the
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  with that famous what's Franco what's his name?
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  James Franco with the the news first time you know yeah it's
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  going to be tough. It's going to be a tough Rd.
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  after saving brother. I mean it won't be Alabama's
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  going to be fine. I'm just mean that first couple
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  of years get that transition of getting back to to new new deal
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  moving forward right. It isn't easy.
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  I've been there. No, Yeah, no doubt.
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  Well you know oh God I I I got so many places to go with this
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  but we'll we'll get with that first though.
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  Yeah. It is definitely this first guy
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  whoever the next guy is boy he's scrutiny is going to be all
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  amongst his world But you know I like I Moore texts me and and
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  you know I I told him I said you know I I remember when Gene
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  Stallings retired because he wanted to spend more time with
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  his family and you know I was 12 when we won the national
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  championship in 92 and we had won one the year I was born.
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  So obviously I didn't wasn't around to celebrate that one so
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  12 we get one. Everybody loves Coach Stallings.
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  I mean he's just everybody's great uncle, you know and then
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  he has to retire. So I can remember crying as a 12
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  year old thinking you know the the world's going to stop but
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  then we start, then we then we bring in Mike Dubose.
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  So I mean, no, no. Jane Backtrack that the Perkins
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  Curry years. Ray Perkins, Which will Curry
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  Ray Perkins. Yeah, which, which Both were
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  Bama guys, you know, the whole thing.
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  So I knew it was tough on them, but I was too young to
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  understand. Like, I'm going through this
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  now. But I will say having, you know,
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  winning a national championship back when because before Saban,
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  no one won multiple championships in.
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  Yeah, I mean, you might get one or two in a, you know, Bear
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  Bryant won every decade or so throughout a long span, but it
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  just wasn't like it was now. So I was fine with if we never
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  won another when I got one at 12, because I know it's not, it
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  just doesn't happen. It's just, it's not, it's not
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  going to happen just because you're there.
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  At some point they're going to give you one.
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  So like they did in Michigan but so I waited around and so I so I
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  noticed then you know how it was but not to the impact I do now.
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  Heard my dad hollering about it things like that.
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  This definitely going to be a big deal.
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  But yeah I believe we will get through.
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  Before I get to who I think you know the higher she'd be or who
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  my my thoughts on any of that stuff.
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  I got to tell you how the news was broke to me because this you
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  know. I was If it goes to what your
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  phone call, then please do because it was hilarious.
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  I have. I was still laughing about it.
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  Well, so I'm. I'm doing it, you know,
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  Everybody knows. I got 15 jobs here.
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  I got a main job, tour manager extraordinaire for Justin Moore.
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  Besides that, I do any and everything I can do to stay
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  busy. I don't have kids.
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  I got to make enough money now to take care of myself when I'm
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  old. So I'm on a side hustle
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  yesterday at a condo and I'm knee deep in some replacing
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  faucets and stuff and I I I'm not looking at my phone.
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  I'm not paying attention. Well next to us we're if
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  anybody's familiar with Orange Beach, AL beautiful spot down
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  here on the coast. They have the Phoenix
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  properties, which is Phoenix one through 10, and Phoenix East and
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  West, which is each one is just its own condominium complex.
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  Well, we're working on one and I can see we're on the 8th floor,
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  so I can see down over to the next one.
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  Or actually my my boy Mike Diamond, who was with me, looked
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  over to the next one. He could see the pool.
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  And inside the pool is the Phoenix logo, which looks like
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  the Ruger logo, which looks like Hank Junior's logo.
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  So Diamond goes, You ought to take a picture of that, send it
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  to Nathan, who is my assistant on the road, who is also the
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  assistant tour manager for Hank Williams Junior.
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  So he said you ought to send a picture of this to Nate to see
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  if Hank's got one like that. Another side, I don't want to go
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  Side Story, but I had one if I needed it.
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  So I take the Remind me to tell you about famous people's pools
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  at some point, OK? Yeah, that's where we're going.
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  I will write that. Down in Alabama, Jeff Cook so,
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  but so I take the picture. I sent it to Nathan, you know, I
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  get back to work a little bit later.
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  I feel I look down. I see his replied and he says
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  the best to ever do it is retiring.
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  So I just put win and I tell I so I look at Diamond I said shit
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  man, Bocephus is going to retire because I thought.
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  I just thought for sure he was responding to me sending the
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  picture of the Ruger and he worked for Hank.
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  We always we talk about Hank. We send texts to each other all
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  day about Hank Junior. We're all love Hank Junior.
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  You know, so, so I think he's talking about Bocephus.
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  So then when I click out of his text and go back to my main text
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  line where it's got every all the text lined up, I notice I
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  got about 78 other text already and I'm like, damn, it's busy.
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  And now and Lacey can tell you our pie cap brother chat can
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  get. I mean you can look down and be
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  200. You just blinked on it.
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  But this was like. And it did.
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  It did. Oh yeah.
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  But this was like 1618 different people, but it had the, the
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  right red number said like 70 something.
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  I'm like, Oh my God. The first one I click on is a
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  picture of the ESPN shot. Saban's retired.
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  So then I'm backtracking my mind.
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  I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, Saban, Saban, hey,
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  junior, go retired the same day. Then I'm like, Oh my God, I'm
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  like, man, this is too much. I can't be at work for this, you
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  know, so I so then I and so and then so then I'm putting two and
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  two together. I'm realizing that's probably,
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  that's probably what he's talking about.
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  Then I look down and Nathan puts, I was talking about Saban.
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  I'm like, OK, all right, well, I kind of finally put that
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  together after I saw the other 300 texts.
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  But then it's just and then it's just on like a chicken bone.
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  And I can't even dive into it, 'cause I still.
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  I'm still trying to get something accomplished.
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  And I can't changed my thought pattern over there that strong
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  yet. But in my in my my buddy I'm
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  working with is a huge Bama guy too.
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  So I mean we're just like this just threw us in the, you know,
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  flustered mode. We're trying to do something
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  integral here and we're like, oh boy, all right, let's focus back
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  in And then we'll. And then the whole time it's
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  like, oh, we got bad news. But man, how do we, you know
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  keep going. But so anyway, that's how I got
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  the news broke. Was thinking Hank Junior
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  retired, but actually it was Saban.
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  Which, you know, I figured Hank would 'cause he doesn't do that
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  many shows anyway. And he He's a hair older than
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  Coach Saban, but and he definitely, probably partied a
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  little harder. You'd think it's.
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  Amazing. He still looks as good as he
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  does he. Really is dude.
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  He he he can go all squat all the way to the ground when he
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  does his little move and stuff. But so anyway, so then I
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  realized it was Coach Saban, so and I waited till I got home to
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  start going and that's when I called you Tigs on the way home
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  was like we got to do something because I've been looking
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  through these texts and I don't, I can't even respond to
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  everybody all at once, you know, or I can't even start.
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  It's like after you know somebody starts sending you
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  Merry Christmas texts and then you know you're going, you're
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  going to have to reply to or birthday on Facebook or
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  something. So I just thought we'd come on
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  here and and and and tell it all and then come to find out 2 two
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  other legendary coaches retire the same day, one being his
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  Saban's former boss. I mean this is just and 1A
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  former adversary. I mean, this is just crazy.
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  You know what two of those people have in common?
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  Pete Carroll and Saban right now is, and this is a little
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  unusual. OK, so Belichick's leaving.
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  He's not just retiring, he's just leaving and going to go
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  coach somewhere else, it sounds like.
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  But Nick and. Parting ways Pete Carroll have.
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  Also both said they're gonna remain active with you know he's
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  gonna he there's gonna be a role for saving with Alabama and he's
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  gonna help out with Seattle. So you might see a different
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  type of transition in both those organizations versus just this
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  start over. You know what I mean?
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  Like you know what I mean like that's do you still got save in
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  there to help advise a little bit in some capacity and help
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  recruit in some capacity. I don't.
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  You know what I mean. Just having him still there,
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  just standing there and just standing there, you know, like,
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  I think it'll be, it's gonna make that transition for Alabama
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  a lot smoother, I think, than what people probably think it
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  is. Yeah, if you get the right guy.
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  Right if you. Get if you get the right guy if.
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  It's a jail thing. And they can, they can Ying and
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  Yang off each other. Yeah, absolutely.
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  That's a great point. I didn't know that.
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  Like I said, I'm still, I don't know anything.
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  I haven't watched ESPNI, hadn't listened to the radio.
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  I'm any new info I've gotten a little off the Twitter or X and
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  some stuff and whatever you you guys tell me tonight.
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  Yeah so that's interesting to know that they are going to stay
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  around. It's not going to be.
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  I'm going to the lake, you know, I'll see you at a game or.
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  Time see y'all. Yeah, I'll see you at a game.
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  Yeah, they said Sabin was at work today.
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  They said he got up same time I read this article, got up exact
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  same time this morning, went through the same routine, was
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  there at the office the exact same time he is every day and.
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  He's not going to turn it off that fast.
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  He can. I mean, it's impossible.
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  It's impossible. He probably needs that.
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  It's like necessary for him. He can.
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  Do like Bear Bryant did. Just go home and die.
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  He didn't want to do that, you know.
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  I I've said it 20 times. I'll hear that.
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  That movie, the blue zones, If you watch the Blue Zones, if you
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  want to live to be old, one thing you do is you continue to
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  have purpose. You have something you got to go
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  do every day or to do or get accomplished every day and that
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  helps you live longer. So you know that's really how it
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  is usually when you get if you retire and go sit at home or
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  it's like off you know so but so that's great.
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  And I've always thought that in general with players and former
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  personnel if you're a especially if you've got connection with
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  the younger guys and gals that are playing these sports so you
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  can help with recruiting and just the navigating the new
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  rules and the different things that change ever so often.
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  And then just the name recognition.
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  I mean, you think if you. Yeah, and I know they show them
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  on the sidelines when there's games and stuff, but like that.
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  I mean have roles for. I always said if you go to a
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  school and don't quit and you know, or ruin your name at that
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  school and go play for the other school or do something crazy or
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  talk smack after you leave or whatever, you will probably
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  always have a job. You know what I mean?
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  You can always go. They'll always have a job for
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  you there to do something. And I thought, yeah, if anybody
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  wants to just move them back, let them be the whatever, give
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  them a minimal salary, 'cause you think if you had like like
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  those two coaching figures, but then the ballplayers say, say,
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  Derrick Henry, 'cause I think he's leaving the Titans.
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  I don't know if he's retiring. He is.
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  He did. He'd addressed, addressed the
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  Titans. He's going to retire.
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  On the PA, yeah. I don't know if he's retiring.
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  He's leaving the Titans. Likely leaving, Yeah.
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  Right. I saw and y'all see that he went
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  through and thanked everyone on the whole staff by name.
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  That high? Classy, right?
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  So somebody like that. How big do you think it would
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  help if Derrick Henry was on campus when these recruits
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  showed up? I know from I know personally
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  when I was with Wayne Mills and we got our jerseys when coach
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  Mike Shula was at the helm. We went to the field house that
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  day and we're walking through to go to Wayne's going to show me
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  his old locker room and we're walking through and it's cool
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  enough, you know, we're there. And Mike he, we get to talk to
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  Mike Shula. Don Shula was there.
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  We're walking through the weight room and me and Wayne are kind
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  of beat by. And we hadn't barely been to bed
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  yet. We're in cowboy outfits and blue
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  jeans still. They always smell like the
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  Harry's bar. And we look up and there's Don
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  Shula and we're like, oh, hey, hey, and he and we've kind of
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  started. He looks up it UPS.
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  Hey gentlemen or boys, how y'all doing today or something?
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  Oh good. Coach could see coach and we're
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  just walking by and a couple steps later we're like, holy
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  crap, that was Don Shula, 72 Dolphins.
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  So I say that. To say it it that would have to
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  do the same to any player. If you show up in one of your
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  idols is there, like if you're running back in high school, you
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  show up. There's Derrick Henry.
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  Oh, I I think that the impact that Nick Saban will have on the
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  University of Alabama for decades to come will it will be
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  felt for decades. It's felt here at LSU.
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  We'll get into some of that here.
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  Here in a little bit, too. His hands of what he has touched
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  over the last 2530 years, however long he's been coaching.
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  Longer than that, but just go in the last 25 years, you know, his
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  imprint in college football, in the college football fabric is
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  unrivaled with what he's done, what he did, what he set up here
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  at LSU in Baton Rouge to begin to propel that to where we still
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  pumping it out, where, you know, it really, really turned it
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  over. I have a couple of videos I'll
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  show up show from some of those old press conferences that are
• 18:22
  classic freaking Saban where it all began the the talking of the
• 18:28
  process. I found a video on that today.
• 18:30
  I'm going to share it. I mean, it's just he he's
• 18:34
  unbelievable, easily, probably as far as coaches goes, one of
• 18:40
  the greatest messengers of our time with his philosophies.
• 18:45
  And he's so wise, Probably the greatest messenger, you know.
• 18:49
  I think, I mean, it's greatest, like, he was a great coach,
• 18:53
  unbelievable, the best ever. But dude, that messaging and how
• 18:56
  he could dictate the message and like manipulate the media and
• 19:02
  his ability to do that was like beyond anything I'd ever seen or
• 19:06
  have seen since, you know what I mean?
• 19:08
  He is as good as anybody ever. He was perfect at it.
• 19:11
  Almost, you know, rat poison. I'm sure you got all the stuff,
• 19:14
  man. Oh, all the stuff.
• 19:16
  I don't have them all. But yeah, I mean, that list is
• 19:19
  so long. Didn't have enough time to to
• 19:21
  put them all together. But but look, before we go
• 19:24
  further, I do want to say thanks everybody.
• 19:27
  That's in the chat. I see you guys in there.
• 19:30
  We got to say hello to Paul. Paul's out there toasting it up
• 19:34
  with us, having a good night. Love it, Aaron, Ryan says.
• 19:39
  Thoughts and prayers Jr. He knows what you're going
• 19:43
  through. He I thought I said Aaron.
• 19:46
  Rodgers For a minute I thought, I thought since he couldn't go
• 19:48
  on Pat McAfee Show, I thought that was him coming in here to
• 19:50
  chat with us, but that was Aaron.
• 19:51
  Who's the next Cat Williams? Hilton is in the house, he says.
• 19:57
  What's up? What's up?
• 20:00
  And and and everybody else. Y'all, keep talking.
• 20:03
  Look, if you have a question for us, of course don't hesitate to
• 20:07
  to put it in the chat. If you have something that you
• 20:09
  want to say about the Nick Saban era or if you're a Patriots fan,
• 20:13
  you have something to talk about.
• 20:14
  Belichick. Or for God's sakes, if you're a
• 20:17
  Pete Carroll fan, then I mean, by all means, please chime in.
• 20:21
  But look boys, I kind of hinted to this earlier in our little
• 20:26
  side text talking about doing this show and everything, that I
• 20:30
  potentially had a guest that may join us.
• 20:33
  A very knowledgeable football fan, one of my best friends in
• 20:39
  the world. He is an amazing fellow and I've
• 20:42
  had him on the show three times is in season one.
• 20:47
  He did not make it on the season 2.
• 20:49
  We just couldn't ever make it work out.
• 20:51
  We we tried a time or two, but very happy to have the legendary
• 20:58
  Eunice cattleman. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. David
• 21:02
  Ware is back folks. David Ware, what is going on?
• 21:11
  The lady. Well, you and I are free, David.
• 21:19
  Yeah. Oh man, y'all been held captive
• 21:22
  for a long time. I didn't realize it was that,
• 21:23
  like that, bent up in there. Like, you know what I mean?
• 21:26
  All that. It's.
• 21:28
  I mean, it's a lot. There, isn't it?
• 21:30
  There's a lot. There's a lot, there's a lot
• 21:32
  there because of, you know, just there's just so much.
• 21:38
  There's so much. I know that that.
• 21:40
  David. David, what are your thoughts on
• 21:42
  this? Chime in.
• 21:44
  Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me.
• 21:48
  So you know Nick Saban, it's really it.
• 21:53
  It's, I kind of have two different categories, I guess,
• 21:58
  that I'm putting this in. There's like Nick Saban came to
• 22:01
  LSU, which we definitely need to get into that, and he changed
• 22:06
  the culture. Like the podcast that we did
• 22:09
  about Sean Payton changing the Saints culture.
• 22:11
  Nick Saban did that for LSU. He changed our culture.
• 22:15
  He completely redirected the direction of the program and
• 22:18
  turned it into really what it is, you know, and absolutely you
• 22:25
  know, love him for doing that. And when he left from Miami,
• 22:30
  honestly, I was like, you know what?
• 22:32
  Tip of the cap. Thanks.
• 22:34
  I'm going to root for you and I hope he does well in the NFL.
• 22:39
  And then obviously that didn't work out.
• 22:40
  So he decides to come back to college football, you know, and
• 22:44
  then he just had to go to Bam and.
• 22:47
  That's the problem. There's the problem.
• 22:50
  So at that, at that time I I I placed a fatwa on him which I am
• 22:56
  now happy to report is been lifted and so.
• 22:58
  That's so great. This is huge news.
• 23:00
  Yes, this is big. This is.
• 23:02
  Big, huge news for Coach Saban. So my love and admiration for
• 23:06
  Saban, you know, had to. I had to hit the pause button
• 23:09
  for 17 years and now that he now that he's laid down his rockets
• 23:14
  and he's no longer trying to attack us and kill us, OK, we
• 23:20
  have peace. We have peace across the land
• 23:22
  and it's beautiful. I can go back to admiring saving
• 23:26
  and and and rooting for him and and so it's really like I said
• 23:32
  two different you know the the pause, I can, I can depress the
• 23:36
  pause button again and so now I can I can go back to liking him
• 23:39
  and it's fine. So yes, but I don't know if you
• 23:42
  guys saw the Reese Davis interview that Saban did a
• 23:46
  little a few hours ago. Well, I did.
• 23:49
  I did. I I wanted to ask Jr. hey, I
• 23:52
  know he's been busy doing everything.
• 23:54
  Have you heard anything from the Reese Davis interview?
• 23:57
  I have not. Well, I've got a clip of him
• 24:00
  talking about. It's about a minute, a minute
• 24:01
  and 19 seconds. Pretty much his intro of what he
• 24:04
  has to say to be the first time that the handlers seen it.
• 24:08
  Let's just start there and kind of talk about some of that,
• 24:11
  David, I like. It that beautiful being footage
• 24:13
  roll. Let's start with the simplest
• 24:15
  question of all. Why did you decide that this was
• 24:19
  the right time to retire? No, I don't think there's any
• 24:22
  good time, especially when you're a coach, because once
• 24:25
  you're a coach, you think you're going to be a coach forever.
• 24:29
  But I actually thought that in hiring coaches, recruiting
• 24:33
  players, that my age started to become a little bit of an issue.
• 24:38
  People wanted assurances that I would be here for three years,
• 24:42
  five years, whatever. And it got harder and harder for
• 24:44
  me to be honest about. And to be honest, this last
• 24:48
  season was gruelling. It was a real grind.
• 24:52
  For us to come from where we started to where we got to took
• 24:56
  a little little more out of me than usual.
• 24:59
  And, you know, when people mention the health issue, it was
• 25:02
  really just the grind of can you do this the way you want to do
• 25:07
  it? Can you do it the way you've
• 25:09
  always done it and be able to sustain it and do it for the
• 25:12
  entire season? And if I couldn't make a
• 25:15
  commitment to do that in the future the way I think I have to
• 25:19
  do it, I thought maybe this was the right time based on those
• 25:24
  two sets of circumstances that, like I said, there's never a
• 25:29
  good time, but I thought maybe this was the right time.
• 25:34
  So there you have it. He thought it was the right time
• 25:37
  to go. And it makes sense.
• 25:39
  With the College Football Playoff coming now, the SEC
• 25:42
  expanding. It's a It's a new era of
• 25:47
  college. Football, the nil and the portal
• 25:51
  he could not stand. He hated it.
• 25:53
  And it just this year became just like the OR the last 12
• 25:56
  months, Let's be honest, it just became this overbearing
• 25:59
  creature, you know what I mean? It had its fangs in there.
• 26:02
  But this past year, so it really just took off.
• 26:04
  And I think that to me, in my mind, I think that's what
• 26:07
  finally just said, OK, it's time for me to go like, 'cause I hate
• 26:09
  it. And now it's become it's the the
• 26:12
  most important part of the game and it's and it's kind of messed
• 26:14
  up and. He did address that some, but he
• 26:18
  it it throughout that interview that he, you know, of course
• 26:20
  says it's not totally that's not it.
• 26:22
  But then there's also this, and I have this little clip speaking
• 26:26
  about that about the transfer portal, and he brings up
• 26:30
  something that I had not ever thought about.
• 26:32
  Did y'all just get the? Deck makes really, really,
• 26:35
  really good sense now Here. Here it goes.
• 26:38
  Questions. I think we got breaking news
• 26:39
  boys. What is it?
• 26:41
  I just got a thing breaking Dabo Sweeney to be introduced as the
• 26:45
  28th head coach of the University of Alabama, per ESPN
• 26:48
  Chris Lowe, Greg Byrne told Chris Bafferts 11:00 AM Central.
• 26:53
  Chris Lowe broke it Well, we've been saying this for.
• 26:57
  Unless. And that's on our text blasey.
• 27:00
  So I don't think it's OK. I don't want to click it, you
• 27:02
  know why, but I'm hoping. It's true.
• 27:05
  Yeah, somebody. Yeah, somebody in chat.
• 27:08
  I don't, I don't think. Woo.
• 27:09
  Chat y'all check this out. See if this.
• 27:11
  Looks, Sparky said he. Ain't.
• 27:12
  It's fake. It's fake.
• 27:14
  It's fake. It's I did, but I wouldn't be
• 27:20
  shot. Who's Woo, an Auburn fan?
• 27:23
  That's messed. Up is Woo and Auburn fan Woo.
• 27:25
  Yeah, I thought it was only one Auburn fan on that whole wheel.
• 27:27
  I thought was Troy fans and Bama fans on one wheel.
• 27:30
  That's what I thought was woot stirring the pot.
• 27:32
  Were you messing me up, man? And.
• 27:34
  Of course, that's fan. Anyway, sorry.
• 27:36
  Wow. Anyway, moving on.
• 27:38
  No Dabo. No Dabo.
• 27:39
  A bad guy. Awesome if we had live breaking
• 27:43
  news. I know.
• 27:45
  And it could happen. It totally could happen.
• 27:47
  So folks, it. Was just Barry.
• 27:49
  It was just Barry, that's what. I thought Jesus.
• 27:52
  So look, if you're listening to this and it's like Saturday or
• 27:55
  Sunday or next week, there is a chance that that Alabama has
• 27:58
  already named their next head coach.
• 28:00
  We do not know who it is going to be, but we are definitely
• 28:03
  going to get into that here in a little bit.
• 28:06
  But, but kind of going back to Saban and the Nil and all of
• 28:11
  those kind of things that maybe that may be something that's
• 28:13
  pushing him out. He made a very good point about
• 28:16
  something that I had not thought about with how the Nil can
• 28:20
  affect college kids and all. Check this out.
• 28:23
  I don't think that, you know, guys transferring multiple times
• 28:28
  really enhances graduation. And I hope we don't see things
• 28:32
  in the future 10 years from now that we have guys that didn't
• 28:36
  graduate and their careers over and now they're having a
• 28:40
  difficult time being successful in life.
• 28:42
  I think we saw that in the NFL few years ago.
• 28:45
  I don't want to see that happen to college players.
• 28:48
  You know, I think that's a great clip.
• 28:52
  That whole interview is about 25 minutes and I watched it like an
• 28:55
  hour ago. Just before I think he told us
• 29:00
  what he's going to do in that video, he, you know, that's is
• 29:06
  NL the reason you're leaving. He said no.
• 29:08
  But then he listed his issues about it.
• 29:12
  I think he's going to try to fix college football.
• 29:15
  I think that's what he's going to do.
• 29:17
  It sounds like that's what he wants to do.
• 29:19
  I think that he was going to do and he was going to try.
• 29:23
  Who was the coach that had the the plan laid out at his press
• 29:26
  conference the other week? The the the the coach from?
• 29:29
  Was it W somewhere that had it laid out and it made perfect
• 29:32
  sense? How to To get the alignment and
• 29:36
  everything straight. I remember that guy see, and I'm
• 29:40
  sure he's he's obviously a big time, fantastic coach.
• 29:42
  But man with wielding power? If Saban puts his mind to it,
• 29:46
  there's a shot. Carrollton here and Kirby Smart,
• 29:50
  people like Kirby Smart, you get the right people at the right
• 29:52
  level that start making enough noise.
• 29:54
  That's when, that's when change and all those in any
• 29:57
  organization or anything in the world.
• 29:59
  And you think about this. Saban not being the coach
• 30:02
  anymore and being this a separate entity.
• 30:04
  All of his former coaches like Kirby Smart and the 12 other big
• 30:09
  time coaches that he that coached under him, he can go.
• 30:11
  We're not competing against etching anymore.
• 30:13
  Let's team up and get this thing.
• 30:14
  Fixed. I'll talk to Papa.
• 30:16
  You know, like minded. Yeah.
• 30:18
  Yeah, I I do. I think.
• 30:20
  He That's a good point. He.
• 30:22
  Was thinking about retiring and then you know in the quote in in
• 30:25
  the interview, he said. You know I don't want to just be
• 30:27
  a like a year to year guy, Maybe one more year, maybe one more
• 30:31
  year. And but he very specifically
• 30:33
  said that he was going to keep working.
• 30:36
  And then just the way he kind of was talking about problems with
• 30:39
  the with the system. I think he's sitting here
• 30:42
  thinking like you know who's going to fix this?
• 30:47
  No one can. I'm going to fix it.
• 30:49
  I'm going to fix I'm. The only one who can do it.
• 30:51
  I can do this, you know and I think.
• 30:54
  I think he probably started today.
• 30:56
  That's probably why he was there this morning.
• 30:58
  Yeah, he's probably working on it right now.
• 30:59
  Yeah, he's keeping it all as. We speak his past.
• 31:01
  He's already moved on. Well, he's probably taking a
• 31:04
  break watching Tigs Bits podcast, but after that I'm sure
• 31:07
  he's going to get right back into it, you know, of course.
• 31:09
  Coach, we'd love to have you on. You're going to have absolutely
• 31:12
  a little bit of time, maybe not much.
• 31:14
  Yeah, we can discuss that. You We'll get Marty on here as
• 31:17
  well, Coach. That's what I'll say.
• 31:18
  We'll sideswipe him. I'll get, I'll wait.
• 31:20
  I'll tell Marty to text me when he's near him and then just
• 31:23
  throw up on his FaceTime real quick, and here we are.
• 31:29
  We'll take it. Yes, we'll.
• 31:30
  Take it. But yeah, man, it.
• 31:33
  Well, go ahead, Tiggs. Well, I I didn't have anything.
• 31:36
  I was just going to ask David, how do you think this impacts?
• 31:40
  And I, and I got this question from from from Jason in the in
• 31:44
  the chat. How do you think this affects
• 31:47
  the LSU and Alabama rivalry? I know that Alabama doesn't
• 31:52
  consider it a rivalry and I don't really consider it a
• 31:55
  rivalry either, but it is a big game between the two.
• 31:58
  There's a lot of blood between the two.
• 32:01
  So it call it whatever you want. I mean, the nation calls it a
• 32:05
  rival. Man, they call it a rival.
• 32:06
  What you want to it is. It is a rival.
• 32:09
  I think it's. I think it's just under Alabama
• 32:12
  Auburn, like just a hair under. That's a big game.
• 32:15
  I'm not an Alabama Auburn fan. Like just an outside looking in,
• 32:18
  like, that's funny you say that, but, like, I'd consider that to
• 32:21
  be what's LSU's biggest game. Well, we're we're it is now.
• 32:25
  But what's LSU's? Biggest game?
• 32:26
  It's going to be Alabama. Yeah, I mean such a.
• 32:29
  Big. Oh, yeah, Yeah.
• 32:30
  In my opinion, that's right. It's right there.
• 32:32
  More years than not. Whoever wins that game wins the
• 32:35
  West, you know, and that's that's been true over the last
• 32:38
  15 years. Well, that's what I was going to
• 32:40
  say. It depends on how far back in
• 32:41
  history of rival we were talking about, because like you're
• 32:44
  talking about recent rivalries. But to me it's always going to
• 32:46
  be Auburn Tennessee and and no matter what because it could
• 32:49
  flop and we could not be. We've not won.
• 32:52
  We've not been we've there's the in between years and you know
• 32:56
  there was times when I wouldn't consider our rivalry with LSU
• 33:00
  any more important than with Ole Miss or Mississippi State or you
• 33:04
  know what I'm saying? And and some and there was times
• 33:07
  when Florida was our LSU and there was times we weren't in
• 33:09
  the picture and it was you know Arkansas and Florida whoever was
• 33:13
  hot or LSU and whoever was hot that year.
• 33:16
  Tennessee, hell, that the years we were out they were winning
• 33:18
  championships in the late 90s. So I, I, I it's hard to say
• 33:24
  everybody's arrival and when you because Alabama's been on top
• 33:27
  for a while. So everybody's that's.
• 33:28
  Everybody's the king of the mountain, so yeah, yeah.
• 33:30
  Yeah, but so, so now. But then, like, but so like if
• 33:34
  Georgia stays hot as Firecracker forever, it'll be Georgia now.
• 33:37
  Or, you know, if Clemson. I think it is Georgia now.
• 33:40
  It is Georgia now. No, that's the best, well oiled
• 33:43
  rolling machine right now. No doubt.
• 33:45
  Yeah, no doubt. I mean just totally efficient
• 33:49
  with what they're doing it. But it all came from Saban.
• 33:53
  Just another another touch point of of Nick Saban.
• 33:57
  Jason brings up a good point both now currently since
• 34:01
  especially since Saban has been at Alabama that both both LSU
• 34:06
  and Alabama have an off week before they play and that that
• 34:09
  mean that's a that's a valid point because it does it does.
• 34:12
  I mean that tells you all you need to know it's it cause the
• 34:16
  winner is in the catbird seat in that game every year and even if
• 34:20
  it's a LSU beats Alabama this year they are are in that
• 34:24
  catbird seat to to to move move forward.
• 34:27
  You know, if they and if they don't stumble against Ole Miss,
• 34:30
  it's all a lot of what ifs. But Alabama grinded it out.
• 34:34
  It was an impressive thing that they did this season.
• 34:37
  It made it easy to not hate them as much because I respected
• 34:42
  them. I could see what was happening
• 34:44
  every week. They were very obviously from
• 34:47
  the jump, not what people think of Alabama, you know, not the
• 34:52
  expectations they did. They look like a team that was
• 34:55
  going to lose three or four games, easily lose three or four
• 34:59
  games, You know, they they didn't look good at all.
• 35:02
  But then as the season went on, that shows you Nick Saban, and
• 35:08
  it could be, and people have said it, but really and truly, I
• 35:11
  think it may be one of his best coaching jobs that he's ever
• 35:15
  done to get one end season, end game like that.
• 35:18
  Switch. Yes, absolutely.
• 35:20
  Yeah, well, that's. And I think.
• 35:21
  It looked like a drain. Here's a team like you said that
• 35:25
  went all the way against Michigan who won the national
• 35:27
  championship and just, you know, dominated up front against
• 35:31
  Washington who was a fantastic football team and and they went
• 35:35
  overtime and then you know you you kind of think Dang if Bama
• 35:38
  kind of shot themselves in the foot in that game.
• 35:40
  If they hadn't done that, they would have won that game.
• 35:43
  Credit to Michigan though, but still they got that far.
• 35:45
  They got right there at the edge.
• 35:47
  You know what I mean? So.
• 35:48
  They were there. Unbelievable coaching season
• 35:51
  from where you saw him going after that Central Florida game.
• 35:55
  I think talking about the rivalry thing, Saban having
• 35:58
  coached at LSU and then Alabama, that enhanced that rivalry over
• 36:02
  those years because, you know, it was, it was always a big
• 36:05
  game. Because I can remember when I
• 36:07
  was, you know, younger and my, my uncle lived in, had a
• 36:10
  business in Slidell and it had to, you know, had a big
• 36:13
  tailgated LSU. And my dad and brother went down
• 36:15
  there and they'd go visit and it was a big thing, but it it is in
• 36:19
  super intense now and just the national spotlights bigger on
• 36:23
  on. College.
• 36:23
  Yeah, I mean, I think that's a that that's a thing too.
• 36:26
  You know, the national media, they put it on prime time, you
• 36:29
  know? 7000 Ways to Consume It on
• 36:32
  Socials and Mean. Exactly, exactly.
• 36:34
  So I I think it will be. I mean the SEC found it to be
• 36:39
  because they still have us as permanent, you know, opponents
• 36:42
  moving forward in the new conference.
• 36:44
  And I I mean, I would be very upset if we weren't because I I
• 36:49
  look forward to that game. It's either home or away.
• 36:52
  It's just you know, I look forward to it.
• 36:54
  There's LSU doesn't truly have one rival either.
• 36:59
  Kind of in a different situation, Not necessarily from
• 37:03
  winning all the championships and everything, but just, you
• 37:06
  know, Ole Miss went to crap. They were the biggest rival for
• 37:10
  so long. And then, I mean, they're good
• 37:11
  now. I'm not knocking them.
• 37:13
  Arkansas was never our rival. That was all they wanted.
• 37:17
  The SEC wanted that to happen. It didn't.
• 37:21
  Arkansas, as you know, they hate us beyond.
• 37:24
  I mean, to them, we are a rival to us.
• 37:27
  They're not. We're not.
• 37:29
  You know, that's how. That's how it works.
• 37:31
  Usually the better team doesn't consider the lower one arrival
• 37:34
  and stuff. Like that, right?
• 37:35
  Until the other one gets up and gives them A and then right.
• 37:38
  That's right. And I think that's what happened
• 37:40
  with LSU and Alabama is that that Alabama kind of looked down
• 37:44
  on LSU a little bit and then over the last, you know, with
• 37:48
  Satan and then over that time at the last 25 years, you can't
• 37:52
  look down on either one of them. So I think that kind of levelled
• 37:56
  it up to win. OK You know, they're worthy of
• 37:59
  being in the conversation and and having those good games and
• 38:04
  and all of that. So, yeah, I mean, I think that
• 38:06
  that changed it. My thoughts, Hilton, I don't
• 38:09
  think anything changes with LSU and Alabama.
• 38:13
  I think next year, whenever they play here in Death Valley, it's
• 38:16
  going to be just as wild and crazy as it always will be.
• 38:21
  It'll be just as fun as always and I look forward to whoever
• 38:25
  the first year coach is coming to having to come to Death
• 38:28
  Valley and experience that in year one, so.
• 38:32
  You know, and what contributes to a rivalry, right?
• 38:35
  So it's always a big match up, has always been a big match up,
• 38:38
  you know for years. But now that lasting impression
• 38:41
  of Nick Saban has like, put his footprint upon both those
• 38:45
  programs and intensified this rivalry to last forever.
• 38:50
  It's how that those things happen, right?
• 38:51
  So probably 1520, thirty years from now, this thing's still
• 38:54
  rolling, right? You know, even after he's dead,
• 38:57
  you know, And so it's because what he did, he was there.
• 39:00
  He won. He went to Miami.
• 39:01
  Yeah, he went to coaching job. He went to Alabama.
• 39:03
  Oh, my God. He won six.
• 39:05
  You know what I mean? And like, here we are it just,
• 39:07
  it it intensified this thing. So that's the Nick Saban effect,
• 39:10
  like the butterfly effect of that rivalry that'll always
• 39:13
  probably stand the test of time because of.
• 39:15
  That and rivalries happen because of the coaches you know
• 39:18
  you think about and and and it's funny because you know you think
• 39:21
  about like Coach Bryant coaching at Kentucky, Vanderbilt, you
• 39:28
  know and you know and was going to go to Arkansas.
• 39:31
  But neat documentary on that. But, you know, you think of the
• 39:36
  coaches make it 'cause it was always these two, you know, it
• 39:38
  was Suge Jordan and Bear Bryant, or it was Dooley and Bryant or
• 39:42
  this one and that one. So it was that.
• 39:43
  So that's and Saban kind of made those both himself cause LS US
• 39:46
  been through a few which, you know, y'all had some great ones
• 39:50
  in the. But just somehow, I don't know.
• 39:51
  That's always blows my mind how that worked out, 'cause you had
• 39:55
  some blue ones there and then it and and we'll see how this guy
• 39:59
  works out, the Notre Dame guy. But it's But Saban did like, to
• 40:03
  Blasey's point, Saban kind of did this by himself from
• 40:05
  switching them, kind of heightened that by himself made,
• 40:09
  you know made into it over the over that period of time.
• 40:11
  First of all. I think, I think Brian Kelly
• 40:14
  will be referred to as the LSU guy by the end of his tenure.
• 40:17
  I hope so, brother. I hope so.
• 40:19
  I do. So do we.
• 40:21
  So brother, hey, I was pulling for Mike Shula.
• 40:23
  I was pulling for Mike Dubose. I was pulling for Mike Price.
• 40:26
  I was pulling for Mike White. I was pulling for the guy who
• 40:28
  was in there for at the. Coach, friend, Don't forget
• 40:32
  about franchioni. Dennis Franchioni Oh yeah, he
• 40:35
  left. He left y'all to go to.
• 40:37
  He still loved that halftime speak by Joe.
• 40:39
  That too. Gotta stop that inside trap.
• 40:40
  Gotta stop that inside trap. That's who I want.
• 40:42
  That's who. I appreciate you.
• 40:44
  But I want them all. It's like presidents.
• 40:46
  I want them all to succeed. I hope they all do.
• 40:48
  Great. You know what I mean?
• 40:49
  And. I think Bama ought to get Willy.
• 40:51
  Willy be a hell of a coach. So that's the next Do it for
• 40:54
  beer. That's the next, that's the next
• 40:57
  turn. You know, you know people,
• 40:59
  everybody's asking me who, who's who's?
• 41:01
  You know, it's every text I got. I just got another one.
• 41:03
  Dan Mullen to Bama from A. Georgia Bank, they go.
• 41:08
  I've got, I've got, I know y'all have seen the meet with coach O,
• 41:11
  coach in a coach O in a Bama uniform and I'm like, that's
• 41:15
  fine because we would have to pay much because already loaded
• 41:17
  from all the money y'all gave him for free.
• 41:19
  So it's like and to me would be. Awesome.
• 41:22
  The first thing that go, and I'm good with that too.
• 41:24
  I thought he was that was your guy.
• 41:26
  That coach O was great. He talks like y'all, looks like
• 41:28
  y'all acts like y'all. That's your guy.
• 41:30
  You won. Hell, that's your guy.
• 41:31
  Ask. Hey, go ask Tennessee what they
• 41:34
  think. If they wish they could have got
• 41:35
  full Phillip former back and kept him when they got rid of
• 41:37
  him 35 years later. Still sucking.
• 41:39
  You know what I mean? Or, you know, but.
• 41:42
  It's been a long. I'm saying so, yeah, but so I,
• 41:47
  you know, I'm pulling for all of them.
• 41:48
  But when it comes to who I would pick, my first thoughts on this,
• 41:52
  if you'd have asked me several years ago, it was Dabo.
• 41:54
  Yeah, Who you got? Dabo by landslide.
• 41:58
  Dabo by landslide. Back in the day.
• 42:00
  Now, my first would be Damiko Ryan's but he's the head coach
• 42:04
  of the Houston Texans. But he's former All American
• 42:08
  from Alabama. You know, I mean obviously he's
• 42:10
  the coach of the Texans. He's good enough to do it.
• 42:12
  He's cool. I'm younger you know so so
• 42:16
  either one of those and I would still take Dabo if he wanted to
• 42:19
  do it. I mean I've I kind of go with
• 42:21
  the old I'm. It's hurt.
• 42:23
  It's hurt us but it's helped us that Saban didn't come off that
• 42:26
  tree. But I'm always like this get a
• 42:29
  former somebody who played under us that went to school or from
• 42:32
  here or had some ties. More than just he was a coach.
• 42:36
  It worked for Saban, but everything worked for Saban
• 42:40
  except for the Dolphins. So you know, but, and maybe
• 42:44
  that's it too. Maybe he sees college sports
• 42:47
  going into NFL and he don't want to be on the Dolphins.
• 42:49
  Again, well, I think that is part.
• 42:51
  It's a 1,000,000% a part of it. It is a whole different thing.
• 42:54
  And it goes back to he needs to be the policeman to help right
• 42:58
  this ship to where it doesn't just turn into the NFL light
• 43:03
  because you're talking about kids that are going to college
• 43:05
  to get an education, not to go and necessarily not necessarily
• 43:10
  to go to play ball, you're going to get an education.
• 43:12
  And he harps on that in that interview with Reese Davis about
• 43:16
  that. That's that's what he's the most
• 43:18
  proud of, is graduating those men.
• 43:22
  You've got to have something the NFL stands for not for long.
• 43:26
  Here's what you can do for the rest of your life.
• 43:28
  That's right, right. That's a small, small, small
• 43:32
  part of your life. You know what I mean?
• 43:33
  He's. Going to have to go do it in
• 43:34
  high school too, then. Because they're they've got
• 43:36
  schools that you don't go to school at high school.
• 43:38
  You just train for whatever you're supposed to be doing.
• 43:40
  You know, that's. Right.
• 43:41
  They got them. That's right, the.
• 43:42
  Whole thing is kind of crazy. Yeah, that that's a subject for
• 43:46
  a whole show. That's a subject for like a A5
• 43:49
  part series, you know what I mean?
• 43:51
  Like, it's so crazy. When do you think Saban made the
• 43:54
  decision? I, I I was under the assumption
• 43:56
  that he made this decision a couple of months ago, In his in
• 43:59
  his head at least. But on that interview he tells
• 44:03
  Reese Davis that he had the 4:00 meeting with the team and at 355
• 44:08
  he was looking at the clock on the phone with Miss Terry.
• 44:13
  And he's he's like it's 5 minutes I got to make up my mind
• 44:17
  and there and he's like what should I do?
• 44:19
  And and Terry said I'll support you either way.
• 44:23
  The way he tells it is he didn't even know until 4 minutes before
• 44:28
  that meeting. What do you all think about
• 44:29
  that? I think it's possible that he
• 44:33
  was. It took to the last minute and
• 44:35
  it took being pushed off the edge.
• 44:36
  I'm. Not saying it didn't cross his
• 44:37
  mind. To make that decision?
• 44:38
  No, I just think he kind of was leaning that way.
• 44:41
  But maybe. He was really struggling with
• 44:43
  it. I think I probably had.
• 44:44
  Doubts at the end when he's like, I've got to go in there,
• 44:47
  you know? I think he probably went when?
• 44:50
  During the season, whatever point in the season, the first
• 44:53
  inkling of him, he thought, damn, this is tiring.
• 44:55
  I am wore out, man. And I think it hit him for the
• 44:59
  first time probably ever. I do believe this probably ever.
• 45:02
  He had that first inkling of boy, if I wasn't doing it, man,
• 45:06
  you know I wonder. I wonder if I I mean, oh I don't
• 45:08
  even want to think that way you know.
• 45:10
  And then he, he probably fought it off a few times and then he
• 45:15
  probably buried it. Buried it.
• 45:17
  Didn't think about it for months after the season's over.
• 45:20
  He probably had him a glass of wine and that that little thing
• 45:23
  tweaked back up and said, boy, you know, you could just show
• 45:26
  sit on the couch next year and go play more golf and go, you
• 45:29
  know, lay in the hot tub whatever you want to do.
• 45:33
  And it was like tomorrow, tomorrow I got to start making
• 45:36
  all these phone calls and emails and face timing and zoom
• 45:41
  calling. And he's like and so then
• 45:44
  there's the, then there's the back and forth with himself for
• 45:47
  how long that took. And then I don't know what
• 45:50
  during that process he mentioned that to her they may have had
• 45:52
  this. I mean they're pretty
• 45:54
  calculated. So I doubt he thought I doubt it
• 45:58
  came. I doubt it hit him a week ago.
• 46:02
  I you know the first thought of it but I I believe totally that
• 46:06
  yeah it was right up. It took to the end that he
• 46:08
  decided he was he was at some point in that day he thought I
• 46:12
  ain't the hell I can't do this. I'm just I'm going to suck it up
• 46:14
  and go do it, you know. And then I'll it was.
• 46:18
  And then he I. Think he ran out of it?
• 46:20
  What else can I do? I mean he's got I don't know 15
• 46:23
  Mercedes dealerships and he's got, but I I do I think he's
• 46:26
  going to take some kind of advisory or leadership role with
• 46:30
  the structure of college football.
• 46:32
  He mentioned you know instead of like I want the players to get
• 46:36
  paid. That's great.
• 46:37
  Look, we got to have a system and we got to have limits on
• 46:41
  transfers and you know, almost like a almost like maybe
• 46:46
  modeling that not, not, but maybe pro in a way of a
• 46:49
  collective barting agreement is what I'm trying to say of, you
• 46:52
  know, you can't just go to four different schools in four years
• 46:54
  and because your chances of making the NFL are one or 2% and
• 47:00
  even if you play for Bama, it's still only like it's, you know,
• 47:04
  less than half so. Yeah.
• 47:05
  Oh yeah, It helps. But it doesn't guarantee
• 47:08
  anything. Yeah, you know.
• 47:10
  This, yeah. Well, that was that was someone
• 47:12
  just that was what one of the listeners just posted.
• 47:15
  You know it's the. Yeah, our panic fan that that
• 47:22
  recruiting was getting a little old for him.
• 47:24
  And you know, and then they can leave.
• 47:26
  Let me say, leave it in my How much work it is to have to go do
• 47:29
  all these flying to their house and sitting with their parents,
• 47:32
  and then you get them there for a year and they decide they're
• 47:33
  going somewhere else. There ain't nothing you can do
• 47:35
  about it, 'cause there's no pet they don't penalize them.
• 47:38
  It sounds like sales. Yeah, Let me ask you a question.
• 47:41
  How much of his decision and this may be like I may get
• 47:43
  roasted. For what I'm about to say, I may
• 47:46
  get absolutely roasted. On that, that's what we're here
• 47:48
  for. How much, how much of his
• 47:50
  decision do you think was motivated by a certain amount of
• 47:53
  fear of what is to come that maybe he has done such a great
• 47:58
  job? He's been so phenomenal for so
• 47:59
  many years. He has dominated this game.
• 48:03
  Was there a little bit of like man, I'm not so sure like how
• 48:06
  much more I can hang on with what I do and my approach to
• 48:09
  this game based on what college football is today and where it's
• 48:14
  heading. You mean?
• 48:15
  I think you know what I mean? Do I wanna wake up and win 8
• 48:18
  ball games or seven and let go? They got a mighty dude.
• 48:20
  I wanna go out like. That, I mean, that's what
• 48:22
  Melichick. 'S name in Boston is mud.
• 48:24
  Well, I mean, I know we quit today and all that, but like
• 48:27
  every week Last week, Last week, that guy's terrible.
• 48:30
  You know I won you 6 Super Bowls, but it.
• 48:33
  Always happens. It always happens.
• 48:35
  If you stay too long, it usually always does unless you go out on
• 48:38
  top. But I think he said that exact
• 48:40
  thing in his in the in the interview he you know he said to
• 48:44
  do what I want to do at the level I I think I don't know if
• 48:46
  it was fear or he just he knew the energy and level of
• 48:51
  physicality it takes to get all their.
• 48:53
  Failure, man. Like at the end he he did not
• 48:55
  want to fail it, yeah. He's like, I can't do this.
• 48:57
  No. He's like, I can't do well
• 48:59
  enough to do the job I want to do.
• 49:01
  I'm not physically able to do this job that I want to get done
• 49:03
  anymore, and I'm not going to go out there if I can't do 100% how
• 49:07
  I know I can be effective. And I mean good on him.
• 49:11
  Because I think he don't. I think that's admirable.
• 49:13
  Absolutely, it is Barry's saying Nobody ever complaints about.
• 49:17
  I mean, people say that's weird, but you know.
• 49:20
  It's weird because he had the record just right there and the
• 49:22
  last. David has nothing left to break.
• 49:25
  There's no other He is the record.
• 49:27
  He just no. He has nothing left to break,
• 49:30
  approve or anything. But it wasn't like the last
• 49:32
  memory you have of them was them getting smoked or, you know, or
• 49:35
  or not? Not.
• 49:36
  Doing right. Looking.
• 49:37
  Looking. Tired.
• 49:38
  Looking anything, most great champions end up going out.
• 49:41
  Not only exactly the, you know, the the the way that they would
• 49:45
  envision it that, but it's just the way it is, 'cause they fight
• 49:47
  to the end and they just want to see, OK, OK, now I know I'm
• 49:49
  done, 'cause that just proved to me that I'm done.
• 49:51
  But like Jordan or whatever. So but, you know, with him, you
• 49:54
  know, I just think he just knew. I think he's so insightful into
• 49:58
  everything and like he just it's time to go.
• 50:01
  Yeah, and it's, I mean, it's just, and it wasn't like he had
• 50:03
  he left after a three peat, which would have been cool,
• 50:06
  which would have been great. I'll get one more than I'm out,
• 50:08
  which, you know, players do. But he did it actually even
• 50:12
  cooler. He had won a championship and
• 50:14
  then he had a team that wasn't, as it started off, rocky and it
• 50:19
  showed that he could still get them back into the college
• 50:22
  national playoffs. And they come up, they come up
• 50:24
  just a little short, but can do that too.
• 50:28
  Can ride while we're hot, then bring one up still.
• 50:29
  And then it's like, yeah, and but also it's humble.
• 50:32
  It's humble brag because like, I don't have to go out on top
• 50:35
  because I've done enough. I ain't got to be the champ when
• 50:37
  I leave. I got enough.
• 50:38
  I'm good. So I I I think it was well
• 50:41
  played coach which everything he's, you know, I mean you can't
• 50:45
  question the process. You know, no, no, you can't.
• 50:48
  And I'm glad that you bring that up.
• 50:50
  I'm glad that you bring the process up because the process,
• 50:54
  one of the biggest things that has been, I would say one of the
• 50:59
  most instrumental things that that he talks about is the
• 51:03
  process and and that really he became famous, I guess you could
• 51:08
  say or popular and was talked about a lot more.
• 51:11
  Once he was at the University of Alabama and was there and
• 51:15
  started winning multiple championships, it became the
• 51:18
  process. But watching back because I
• 51:22
  hadn't really wanted to look at some of these archive footages
• 51:26
  of Nick Saban at LSUI, just haven't wanted to watch it.
• 51:30
  It wasn't a bad memory. It's just he ain't here and he's
• 51:35
  over there. He now I can look back on it
• 51:39
  with a lot of reverence and wow, this is what he did at LSU.
• 51:45
  But here he is talking. I'm not sure what game David,
• 51:50
  actually, David actually may know what game, but he he's hot.
• 51:56
  He's hot. But this is the first time I do
• 51:58
  believe. I'm sure it was brought up at
• 52:01
  some point, but this is one of the first clips where he starts
• 52:03
  to talk about the process and look how good he looks.
• 52:08
  This is 2 years in a row that we beat these guys, but we we won
• 52:11
  the game. But we didn't really defeat the
• 52:13
  team, all right? We didn't knock the snot out of
• 52:15
  them for 60 minutes like we're supposed to, all right?
• 52:17
  We didn't make the plays in the game like we're supposed to, to
• 52:19
  win the game, all right? So if you want to get happy
• 52:22
  about the results, I'm happy about the results.
• 52:25
  If you want to be happy about the process, I'm not.
• 52:27
  All right? And if we're going to do what we
• 52:30
  need to do as a football team to be as good as I want to be and
• 52:33
  as we want to be, then that process is not good enough.
• 52:35
  All right. So and and if you and if you
• 52:38
  think because you won you don't have to change, you got another
• 52:41
  thing coming nailed. It.
• 52:42
  That's so good, isn't it? God, I know that guy.
• 52:44
  Don't. Care who you are, man.
• 52:46
  That's just good. What game was that I am?
• 52:48
  99% sure that is what he said after the Bluegrass Miracle.
• 52:57
  Do you remember that game at Kentucky?
• 52:59
  Well, I do and I do have. I've got that looks like that
• 53:03
  could be it Post game that. Could.
• 53:05
  I'd bet a dollar that that was the bluegrass.
• 53:08
  Miracle. Well, I do have another clip on
• 53:11
  what he said about the Bluegrass Miracle and that could have been
• 53:14
  in the locker room after the game and this is probably at the
• 53:17
  press conference on that Monday. Because we had the most exciting
• 53:21
  play in college football happen. That doesn't mean that there's
• 53:24
  not a lot of things that need fixing or the game would have
• 53:27
  never been like that. We wouldn't have been behind 30
• 53:30
  to 27 had we done it right. To start with, I'm a process
• 53:33
  person, all right? And the process that got us
• 53:36
  behind by three points in the game, I is what I'm concerned
• 53:40
  about, OK? And I've been concerned about
• 53:43
  it. And I was up at 4:38 this
• 53:45
  morning, concerned about it, not watching the play on ESPN
• 53:48
  because I could care less about it.
• 53:52
  He's a good looking man. I mean he besides Elvis, he's
• 53:56
  like the best looking man there ever was.
• 53:58
  That'll be. Damn, I forgot how tan and
• 54:00
  crispy look. Well.
• 54:02
  He got a jacket. He.
• 54:03
  Was very crisp, yeah. Yep.
• 54:05
  Yes, Sir. But man, yeah, the process.
• 54:08
  He was not happy about the bluegrass miracle, of course.
• 54:11
  Y'all remember that game against Kentucky?
• 54:14
  It's just insanity, but I I think that I think you may be
• 54:18
  right, David. I think that that that was him
• 54:21
  postgame. That first clip was postgame,
• 54:23
  and then that next clip was him at the press the press
• 54:26
  conference on Mondays. And just finish the story so he
• 54:30
  so he's not happy right after the game screaming on Monday
• 54:34
  about, well, guess what happened the next Saturday?
• 54:38
  We play Alabama and they beat us 31 to 0 and he says I told you,
• 54:45
  I told you nobody wants to learn nothing because we won the game.
• 54:49
  You you'll win after you lose and change, but after you win
• 54:53
  you feel good and everything's great and we don't ever need to
• 54:55
  get any better. And so he, he wow.
• 54:58
  Basically, what he was worried about is exactly what happened.
• 55:01
  He knew, Yeah. Trust the process.
• 55:03
  I mean it. Trusts the process.
• 55:05
  I mean and it's working for these other coaches who've
• 55:07
  implemented into their schools. Yeah.
• 55:09
  You know I it's funny everybody gave talk to ULSU guys.
• 55:13
  I you know my wife I only if who knows Dave my wife's from Houma,
• 55:15
  LA. So I've got a lot of dear
• 55:17
  friends down in. Yeah I got a lot of friends down
• 55:19
  in Terrebonne Parish and I lived there for a few years and we
• 55:22
  still have a house there and there a lot.
• 55:24
  Her family's all still there but so I'm on a big group text with
• 55:27
  about 15 of my buddies from down there and boy I'm the only Bama
• 55:30
  guy. There's one FSU guy on there.
• 55:32
  So I just constant me, you know the all the memes to me and I'm
• 55:36
  like guys, they keep digging at me.
• 55:37
  I never would fight back. It's that hole.
• 55:39
  You're not my rival. I'm not fighting you guys.
• 55:41
  You're not worth it, you know, you know, so but but you know
• 55:46
  they'd always back and forth and and trying to hype it up.
• 55:48
  But then I give them credit. My buddy Tommy Piku, he said
• 55:52
  yesterday amongst all the different texts they were
• 55:54
  sending me, you know, he said y'all all know we just mad
• 55:58
  because he left us to go to Bama.
• 56:01
  You know, So I was like, you know, I I I know that time.
• 56:04
  But thank y'all for finding because they would never say
• 56:06
  that. Oh my God, they'd say every.
• 56:08
  I mean you, you could imagine. I mean my buddy Mark Bonveland.
• 56:11
  I mean he could come up with some crap.
• 56:13
  I mean, but Tommy said it best. That was all it was.
• 56:17
  And hell, who wouldn't be if he if it was vice versa, I'd be the
• 56:19
  same way. I'd act like it was a scumbag,
• 56:22
  but it's just because he left us and I loved him so much, you
• 56:24
  know so. Yeah, no, the analogies, like,
• 56:27
  you know, your wife divorces you and moves to Florida for a
• 56:31
  couple years. Well, OK, that's cool.
• 56:33
  You're in Florida? Well, then she moves back to
• 56:35
  your neighborhood and starts, you know, trying to kill you
• 56:39
  every day. She's all tan.
• 56:41
  Got a new big buff One boyfriend.
• 56:44
  Just stay down in Florida. Just stay in Florida.
• 56:46
  It's okay like, you know. On South.
• 56:48
  Beach We'll still exchange Christmas cards and everything.
• 56:50
  You know, it'll be great. So I don't know, but we had it.
• 56:55
  I did pull this down. Like Speaking of somebody who
• 56:57
  stayed too long, which I love to death was Roy Jones, Juniors and
• 57:00
  Roy. Jones A lot of boxers love a lot
• 57:01
  of boxers. Do right, he could have become
• 57:04
  Roy Jones. And as much as I love Roy, who I
• 57:06
  think is the greatest boxer that ever lived, he stayed way.
• 57:09
  Too a lot of them do. A lot of entertainers do, too.
• 57:12
  A lot of, a lot of, you know at some point, sometimes it's just
• 57:14
  time to, you know, and some just stay too.
• 57:17
  But Saban did not do that. They can.
• 57:19
  Nobody can ever say that about him.
• 57:21
  And that's one thing he can. Yeah, no, he he perfect timing.
• 57:25
  And there's no, there's no, and he's still around to to field
• 57:28
  questions if you got him too, you know, it's not like he's,
• 57:32
  you know, That's right. Happened to him or something,
• 57:33
  'cause Coach Bryant passed, you know, several months after he
• 57:36
  retired. But you know, they show the
• 57:39
  pictures and what's the difference, you know, I mean,
• 57:40
  you got to be kidding me. You know, Coach Bryant was in
• 57:42
  World Wars and stuff. You know what I mean?
• 57:44
  These these were hard men back then.
• 57:47
  But you know when it talk talking about the the new coach
• 57:50
  that will be coming in. You know, I said I would have
• 57:52
  taken Dabo Sweeney would used to, would have been my number
• 57:55
  one pick. I think that's moved.
• 57:56
  Amico Ryan's would be my #1 now. But the whole line, I mean,
• 58:00
  there's so many options and we know we're taking the landing
• 58:03
  guy off the organs coach off the list because he.
• 58:06
  Said, Man, I really thought that that guy.
• 58:08
  I thought, I thought that was going to be it.
• 58:09
  I thought everything made sense. Lined up that it did.
• 58:12
  And I told you I sent you all a text, and I thought that text.
• 58:15
  I sent you all of my interaction on Sunday with a couple of the
• 58:19
  coaches from Alabama like lined up with Lamb becoming the coach.
• 58:23
  And I was like, I was convinced. I thought, this has been in, in
• 58:26
  my mind, I thought I'd been in play for probably a year.
• 58:29
  Like at that point, you know what I mean?
• 58:30
  Like the way one coach moved to Oregon, back to Alabama, you
• 58:32
  know. Anyway, that dude boom and here
• 58:36
  he comes. He drops that thing on social
• 58:37
  media. And I don't blame him, though.
• 58:39
  That's a big shoes to fill and he's got the NIL situation
• 58:42
  figured out there in Oregon. He's got everything rolling for
• 58:45
  him. Like why do I want to go over
• 58:46
  there in the pressure that possibly in two years, two or
• 58:49
  three games a a season and then be out?
• 58:52
  And and follow up the goat. I mean, that's what we mentioned
• 58:55
  it earlier. Whoever this next guy is going
• 58:56
  to be under a magnifying glass and nothing's going to be funny
• 59:00
  mane. Funny Mane's a guy who doesn't.
• 59:04
  I love that dude. He put one out.
• 59:06
  He put the one out today, everybody.
• 59:08
  The the next coach it was, it was losing the coin toss and
• 59:11
  everybody's get him out of here. The first coin toss of the next
• 59:15
  coach and he and he, we lose the coin toss.
• 59:18
  He's got to go. So hey, man, what's, you know
• 59:23
  it, it's rough here in Baton Rouge.
• 59:26
  It's a pressure cooker. Expectations.
• 59:28
  Or if you win it. Is but my God.
• 59:30
  In Tuscaloosa, though, there are it.
• 59:32
  It's going to be tough, whoever the next guy is.
• 59:36
  Who are the a little bit for them?
• 59:38
  Who's? Well, get somebody throw me a
• 59:39
  short list. At Lane Kiffin.
• 59:40
  You got Sark on that list, right?
• 59:42
  Kiffin. Now there's a.
• 59:43
  There's a name. I mean, there's a.
• 59:44
  Kiffin is what I thought would happen.
• 59:46
  We talked about that on a show here recently, not too long ago.
• 59:50
  I've been through his name out. Didn't think it'd be happening
• 59:53
  this soon. But after what he's done and
• 59:56
  what he's doing at Ole Miss, it sounds crazy that he would be
• 59:59
  like he's just going to stay at Ole Miss.
• 1:00:01
  But why the hell would he want the pressure in Alabama?
• 1:00:03
  If he doesn't win, they'll run his ass out.
• 1:00:05
  In a year, he won't have a he would have a very short leash.
• 1:00:08
  Well, and I think things have changed so much because these
• 1:00:11
  coaches get paid so much now. It's not like they're broke,
• 1:00:15
  needing this job, and it's going to change their life if they go
• 1:00:18
  to this other one, 'cause he's getting paid billions here and
• 1:00:20
  billions there. So I think that's I think you
• 1:00:24
  could take. They're getting rich at West
• 1:00:25
  Virginia and then they're coaching at these other
• 1:00:27
  programs. To win championships.
• 1:00:29
  Let's just be real, exactly. But, but I don't see.
• 1:00:32
  I don't. And another thing that's changed
• 1:00:34
  too, doesn't matter if you have a contract or not, because used
• 1:00:37
  to if you had, you had a contract you knew he couldn't
• 1:00:39
  because he's under contract at this school.
• 1:00:41
  But now that really doesn't matter because they can let a
• 1:00:44
  coach go and pay him a billion dollars or you can quit and pay
• 1:00:47
  your thing out and go. So you know what I mean?
• 1:00:49
  That used to help hold some water and it it was a little
• 1:00:52
  leeway. But now it seems like I don't
• 1:00:53
  even know why they have them, really.
• 1:00:56
  So I don't think I I don't think that's so.
• 1:00:58
  I think the board's open, but I would.
• 1:01:02
  I mean, you know, I would Kiffin and everybody's took Dion.
• 1:01:06
  Hey, if Dion if coach prime coaches at Alabama will never
• 1:01:09
  lose another game so y'all don't want that to happen.
• 1:01:12
  You think we got some players now?
• 1:01:14
  You let brand? You kidding me?
• 1:01:16
  The nil deals we'd get, that would be a gajillion dollar
• 1:01:19
  company. I mean, it'd be stupid.
• 1:01:20
  So it would be. Well, who do you think?
• 1:01:23
  Blasey? Who?
• 1:01:23
  Who was your who? Who'd you say your would be?
• 1:01:27
  Kiffin and Sark. Yeah, man.
• 1:01:30
  I just, you know, I don't. I don't know that you can get
• 1:01:31
  Sark or not, but like, I think it's, you know, Kiffin.
• 1:01:34
  Where's he at? Stark's.
• 1:01:35
  Texas. Yeah, he's at Texas.
• 1:01:37
  Yeah. You know and he's.
• 1:01:38
  I'm, I'm gonna make a prediction.
• 1:01:40
  I'm gonna go. I'm gonna say it's gonna be
• 1:01:43
  Galen de Boer from Washington. I've heard that name tossed
• 1:01:46
  around. Correctly, that's my call.
• 1:01:49
  That's your call, OK. Kiffin.
• 1:01:51
  Kiffin. I don't know if Kiffin wants it.
• 1:01:54
  He might. He could be the not the backup
• 1:01:56
  plan. But like, I don't know.
• 1:01:59
  I really don't know what to think about Kiff.
• 1:02:00
  I don't know. He's a wild guard dude, he is.
• 1:02:04
  But I I think, I think it I'm my call is Galen Devore.
• 1:02:07
  That's my that's my prediction. That's my vote.
• 1:02:09
  I think, and he's a good he do it.
• 1:02:12
  What? And what's his background, young
• 1:02:14
  guy? Yeah, he was the Washington
• 1:02:16
  Huskies coach and he's, yeah, he's young.
• 1:02:19
  I don't know. Is he a former player or
• 1:02:20
  anything fortyish? That I don't know.
• 1:02:23
  I got you. I.
• 1:02:24
  Didn't know if there was some tie.
• 1:02:25
  How I would know the names I I saw that tossed.
• 1:02:28
  Around high was name. Familiar with Washington, you
• 1:02:30
  know, for the great years. But he he came and he turned.
• 1:02:34
  I mean, you know, they just. Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  Obviously, obviously, you know, I'm trying to remember where he
• 1:02:41
  went, you know, left to go to Washington.
• 1:02:44
  But yeah, that's kind of, I kind of feel like.
• 1:02:51
  Yeah, no, that's a hey, he's a it's unbelievable what he's done
• 1:02:54
  up there, you know, with Washington and how quickly
• 1:02:56
  that's happened. Like, no, I doubt that's.
• 1:02:58
  I mean, he's a great coach, great name, who knows well, hey,
• 1:03:02
  what would happen if tomorrow, breaking news Brian Kelly
• 1:03:08
  accepts the head coaching job at Alabama?
• 1:03:11
  Dude, straight up, straight up. I'd hope his plane would crash
• 1:03:15
  on his way there. Straight up.
• 1:03:17
  So yeah, so I just throw that in there.
• 1:03:20
  That would be that would be a bad movie.
• 1:03:22
  Brian. I don't think he would make it
• 1:03:24
  out of baton. Rouge I got some odds.
• 1:03:26
  Y'all I want the odds he's. Brian Kelly on the list.
• 1:03:29
  Odds of the next Alabama head coach bet online Mike Norvell
• 1:03:35
  Mike Norvell plus 150 Kayla de Boer Kayla de Boer plus Kevin de
• 1:03:41
  Boer plus 200. Lane Kiffin plus 550.
• 1:03:46
  Sark plus 1400. Dabo plus 2800.
• 1:03:51
  Dion plus 3300. Urban Meyer plus 3300.
• 1:03:56
  Billy Napier 3300. Pat Shermer 4000.
• 1:04:01
  Derek Dooley plus 4000. I don't know how Betty I.
• 1:04:06
  Hope y'all get Derek Dooley. That's who I'm pulling for.
• 1:04:09
  I think that would be a fantastic pick up.
• 1:04:12
  You know, legendary name. Former Derek coached at LSU at
• 1:04:17
  one point as well, so you know he knows how to how to do it.
• 1:04:21
  Mike Nortel is the leading candidate, according to Vegas.
• 1:04:24
  Wow. Yeah.
• 1:04:26
  And I've been hearing his name pop up today.
• 1:04:28
  You know, I I tried to think though what what it.
• 1:04:32
  I mean he can work the nil deal. He's a good coach.
• 1:04:35
  He's no doubt about great. Nil.
• 1:04:37
  Yeah, that. Is it?
• 1:04:38
  Do y'all think now being a pro coach will probably be easier
• 1:04:41
  than a college coach? It's probably always been hard
• 1:04:43
  to be a college, but now probably even more.
• 1:04:45
  You're like, I think I'd rather be a pro coach, 'cause you're
• 1:04:48
  paying your worker. I mean, you got people working
• 1:04:50
  with you. You know it's.
• 1:04:51
  Co workers. It's way more simple than all
• 1:04:54
  the other stuff you know and having.
• 1:04:56
  At this point. Yes.
• 1:04:57
  How advanced are are your collectives and like that whole
• 1:05:00
  part, That's all. That's something else.
• 1:05:02
  It's just a whole other anime, man.
• 1:05:04
  It's crazy. It's crazy town right now.
• 1:05:06
  It it needs some kind of structure some somehow?
• 1:05:11
  Yes it does. Yeah, Aaron.
• 1:05:13
  Aaron brings a good point that FSU got hit with some sanctions.
• 1:05:18
  I saw that earlier this afternoon that Norvell's
• 1:05:21
  probably looking to get out of there while he can.
• 1:05:23
  Might change my vote. Yeah, I mean, that's probably
• 1:05:27
  why they're the favorite there. Plus, 150 is pretty good odds.
• 1:05:30
  I might have to hit that. That's, yeah.
• 1:05:35
  Yeah, that's so crazy. Somebody knows though that's a
• 1:05:39
  whole nother subject. But yeah, I can't believe that
• 1:05:44
  the that this era is ending though, you know, just kind of
• 1:05:47
  bring it all back full circle folks.
• 1:05:50
  We love everybody. We're not going two hours
• 1:05:52
  tonight. I gotta I.
• 1:05:54
  Gotta bounce in a SEC. Anyway, whenever.
• 1:05:56
  Yeah, exactly, exactly. We're going to try to try to
• 1:05:58
  keep this one but man down a little bit, but I can't believe
• 1:06:02
  that this. Jumping on though, I'm glad
• 1:06:04
  everybody was playing for sure. Thank you, Dave.
• 1:06:06
  I appreciate it, brother. Yeah, thanks for having me man.
• 1:06:08
  And look if you need to drop out handler, just drop on out, no
• 1:06:11
  big deal. Yeah, yeah, we can we we can
• 1:06:14
  drop and roll like I I can go a few more minutes, but then yeah.
• 1:06:18
  Yeah, yeah, but. But I just.
• 1:06:20
  Wanted to I want tigs for. Us.
• 1:06:21
  Yeah. I just wanted to kind of sum it
• 1:06:23
  up that that it's just it's almost a little bit sad in a way
• 1:06:28
  I I I had wondered. No, I'm not, I thought.
• 1:06:32
  I'm not sad. No, I'm not.
• 1:06:33
  Hear me out. I'd wondered what my reaction
• 1:06:36
  would be on the day that I heard that Nick Saban was going to
• 1:06:40
  retire just as kind of being released as a prisoner, as we've
• 1:06:44
  alluded to. It's just kind of that freedom
• 1:06:47
  we can breathe again. So I'm in this grocery store
• 1:06:51
  called Sprouts. Yesterday the good folks at
• 1:06:54
  Sprouts mainly organic and all that stuff.
• 1:06:57
  So I'm in there and I look at my phone.
• 1:07:00
  Similar deal. JRI had like 88 text messages.
• 1:07:04
  I'm like, what in the hell is going on?
• 1:07:06
  And I saw that Saban was retiring.
• 1:07:09
  I can't make this up. Things will only get better.
• 1:07:13
  Was playing over the PA in there as I read this.
• 1:07:16
  Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, and I tell everybody
• 1:07:21
  I'm in there, you know. Oh my God.
• 1:07:23
  Nick Saban is retiring. But I didn't get the reaction
• 1:07:26
  that I thought I would get. But still, whatever it was, it
• 1:07:30
  was a happy moment for me. In a sense.
• 1:07:33
  I was kind of happy. But then as I walked to the
• 1:07:35
  truck, I started thinking, am I really happy?
• 1:07:37
  This is kind of, in a way, it's sad.
• 1:07:40
  It's almost like you you kind of just, well we're well that it's
• 1:07:46
  over, it's over. Yeah, like whoa whoa whoa.
• 1:07:49
  Like yeah, you wanted you enjoyed like some of the.
• 1:07:51
  I want more. I want more.
• 1:07:53
  Issues and some of the you know, like I want to be, I want to do
• 1:07:55
  the whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, you can't leave.
• 1:07:58
  I didn't get to tell you can't. Walk away, yeah.
• 1:08:03
  But I guess I did the last time I saw him.
• 1:08:06
  I guess I did tell them goodbye. There you do it.
• 1:08:09
  You did. Hey, I say talk.
• 1:08:10
  Hey, go ahead, Blasi. No, no, you go.
• 1:08:14
  I was just going to say talking about the talking about this
• 1:08:17
  have some ha ha. I rolled my yard last night
• 1:08:24
  talking about the some room to breathe now I I tell you it
• 1:08:27
  might hopefully it's going to be like Eddie Murphy told Sergeant
• 1:08:32
  Phil Canton when he was in the the empty vault in Harlem
• 1:08:36
  nights. It's not.
• 1:08:37
  You only got so much time, so you better take short breaths,
• 1:08:40
  You know, like as you breathe like this, you're a dead mother.
• 1:08:47
  That's right. So, but.
• 1:08:49
  And before we get out of here, I got one thing I want to drop on
• 1:08:51
  everybody. And this ties back into Alabama
• 1:08:53
  somehow. Sweet Home Alabama by God was by
• 1:08:56
  the famous band Lynyrd Skynyrd from Florida.
• 1:09:00
  But members of that band went on to form the Rossington Collins
• 1:09:04
  Band in the early 80s. They were an offshoot of that
• 1:09:06
  and that was a great piece, but very little footage on them.
• 1:09:11
  A couple days ago. As of this past week, a ton of
• 1:09:14
  unearthed new footage has come out on Rossington Collins Band.
• 1:09:17
  It's on YouTube. Go find it.
• 1:09:20
  There's about 6 or 8 songs. It's got them backstage signing
• 1:09:23
  stuff, it's got them at some press stuff and it's actually
• 1:09:25
  got Alan Collins doing some talking and doing things which
• 1:09:28
  besides him on stage with Skynyrd, the few things there
• 1:09:31
  are of him, there's not any of him doing any of that.
• 1:09:33
  This from 83 SO. Send me that.
• 1:09:37
  Send me that link Jr. I'm.
• 1:09:39
  I'll post that in the show notes in in here.
• 1:09:42
  So if you're listening to this after the fact, it'll be in the
• 1:09:45
  show notes. That link will be that.
• 1:09:47
  I wanna see that. Yeah, everybody.
• 1:09:48
  It You'll be wanted after you go after you.
• 1:09:50
  You think that when you make you a a a glass of whiskey later and
• 1:09:54
  listen to enlist the free bird in honor of Coach Saban then go
• 1:09:57
  on turn it on over this Rossington Collins new unearthed
• 1:10:00
  material it's I've only watched a few minutes today while I was
• 1:10:03
  at work but it is I can't wait to go turn it on the the big
• 1:10:06
  screen. I got it written down.
• 1:10:07
  Yep. I can't.
• 1:10:08
  I can't wait to get in it. Hey, I do want to share a quick
• 1:10:11
  story about our show and and this will take give me like a
• 1:10:16
  minute and a. Half.
• 1:10:17
  No, you're good, brother. I'm good.
• 1:10:20
  So. So I applied for media
• 1:10:22
  credentials. We all know what happened at the
• 1:10:25
  Sunbelt Conference championship game, but I ended up eventually
• 1:10:27
  getting those. I had to fight for them.
• 1:10:29
  Well, I applied for it at the Birmingham Bowl and at the very
• 1:10:32
  last minute I was denied. And I was like, I know why I got
• 1:10:36
  denied. You know, it's 'cause this name
• 1:10:37
  of this show. You know what I mean?
• 1:10:38
  Like, heck yeah, it made me mad. But I was kind of busy that
• 1:10:42
  week. I ended up going.
• 1:10:43
  It was a great, I mean unbelievable experience.
• 1:10:45
  JD my buddy John David got AI mean the pimpus box there.
• 1:10:51
  Like right in the middle on the 50 yard line.
• 1:10:52
  It's the BJCC box. I mean, they're bringing out
• 1:10:55
  like, you know, tomahawk rib eye, slicing them up sandwiches.
• 1:11:00
  We had breakfast, we had lunch. Like it was just, wow, multiple
• 1:11:03
  meals coming out to us. It was.
• 1:11:05
  Phenomenal. We played that.
• 1:11:06
  Bowl for my I'm. Sorry.
• 1:11:08
  So that's Troy. I'm sorry.
• 1:11:09
  Yeah, that's Troy and that's Duke.
• 1:11:10
  Duke, Yeah. We played the Duke.
• 1:11:12
  Yeah, that's right. Yep, Yep.
• 1:11:14
  And so anyway, the experience was great, but I didn't get my
• 1:11:16
  credentials and it was like a couple days before is when I got
• 1:11:19
  notified and I was like, whatever, I just let it go.
• 1:11:22
  So I applied for the Senior Bowl and man, like today I get a
• 1:11:29
  notification you've been denied. Hey man, this time I didn't
• 1:11:32
  want, I didn't want to sit there and just like, man, I hold on,
• 1:11:34
  I'm kind of getting upset. Like we, we have interviewed
• 1:11:37
  John Sumrall. We have had DeMarcus Ware.
• 1:11:40
  Award-winning show, for God sakes.
• 1:11:43
  Yes, it is. We've got Marty Smith coming in
• 1:11:45
  here talking to us. Like, really?
• 1:11:48
  So I sent an e-mail back to Molly and it it gave me an
• 1:11:51
  e-mail for Molly. And so I sent her an e-mail.
• 1:11:53
  That was very nice. But I was like, listen, I know
• 1:11:56
  why we're denied. Because people look at the name
• 1:11:58
  of this show and they think it means it's implying something.
• 1:12:01
  It's not, you know, like one guy, his name is Tigs and we
• 1:12:05
  bits. It's just we're talking about
• 1:12:07
  little different bits and pieces of information from around the
• 1:12:10
  world and culture and sports and music and all things Southern
• 1:12:14
  and Jr. says. And and, you know, food and
• 1:12:17
  whatever, right. So I was kind of a little fired
• 1:12:19
  up in there. I mean, I was nice, but I was
• 1:12:21
  like kind of in my e-mail, man, I'm just going on.
• 1:12:23
  And then I even sent her a link to Tonight Show.
• 1:12:25
  So Molly, I hope you're watching.
• 1:12:28
  And I sent her a link for tonight's show.
• 1:12:29
  Hey, look, we're going to talk about the end of an era.
• 1:12:32
  Here's our show tonight, dude. Within an hour, Molly sent me
• 1:12:36
  back, like with a laughing thing, approving our
• 1:12:38
  credentials. So we're credentialed now to go
• 1:12:40
  to the city, but the? Laughing thing tells us that you
• 1:12:42
  were right. Yes, I was right. 100% is the
• 1:12:46
  name. Damn it.
• 1:12:47
  It's such a clever thing. It could get us in so much
• 1:12:50
  trouble. But you know, Oh well.
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  Well, it took. It only took me about, what, a
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  year and a half before I realized that was it for
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  somebody I did. I'll never put that together.
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  Now you still got to figure it out.
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  And I know it's like, you know what people, if people don't
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  know now, I don't even say anything.
• 1:13:04
  Well I have to to get credentials for media but other
• 1:13:07
  than that. I thought it was.
• 1:13:08
  I thought it was purple and I knew Tigs was from an LSU guy
• 1:13:12
  was from Louisiana. I thought it was Tiger Bites.
• 1:13:15
  I thought it was just short for tiger bites.
• 1:13:17
  That's what I thought when I first when before I knew you and
• 1:13:20
  Blasey sent me and the boys the link and said, hey, this is my
• 1:13:22
  friend, old neighbor Y'all check it out.
• 1:13:24
  It's getting some steam. It's cool show and when I I just
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  thought it was Tiger Bites. It was stuff an LSU guy was
• 1:13:30
  cooking up, you know, so. But so I'm glad you got a you
• 1:13:33
  got an official letter to use Blasey when we need that type of
• 1:13:36
  stuff and Molly approves. Thank you Molly for hooking
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  Brother Blasey. Yeah, I'm glad she got that,
• 1:13:42
  'cause that's so cool. She responded back very quickly.
• 1:13:44
  And you weren't got us on that? And like you've said before,
• 1:13:46
  when you when when you got us all the press doing the stuff
• 1:13:50
  with Bubba the Love Sponge, you're just telling facts.
• 1:13:52
  We're not up here giving a we. We tell you when we're giving
• 1:13:54
  opinions. But if if it's, when it's facts,
• 1:13:57
  it's just. Facts.
• 1:13:58
  Thousands of dollars. Thousands of dollars to get him
• 1:14:00
  in here. Paid him a lot.
• 1:14:02
  Reading the thing down dude, dude, I wish I was going to
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  bark. Yeah, barks this weekend man.
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  That's Bubba the love spawns. You just mentioned that Jr. saw
• 1:14:10
  that come up and but yeah, that's just weekend.
• 1:14:12
  But. Bubbles fired up today.
• 1:14:15
  Yeah, I know. I never got the invite.
• 1:14:16
  We almost got the invite. You know what I mean?
• 1:14:18
  They talked about inviting. Like it was close.
• 1:14:20
  I heard it was like Bubble wanted to do it and then he
• 1:14:22
  wasn't sure. And then Bubba Army.
• 1:14:25
  We've got to be there so bad. We've got to get Blasey in.
• 1:14:29
  I don't deserve to be in. I'm not even asking for it.
• 1:14:32
  But as a show host here, there's no doubt that Blasey, the One
• 1:14:37
  Man posse, should definitely be at BARP.
• 1:14:40
  And we need the content from there 'cause it would be a lot
• 1:14:43
  of fun. So Bubba, if you listen to this,
• 1:14:47
  yeah, well, I'll send that boy an invite, man.
• 1:14:49
  I know you're a bark, but I know y'all y'all gonna have a a big
• 1:14:52
  blast. I'm a big mark.
• 1:14:54
  David. You don't probably know what's
• 1:14:56
  going on. But the Bubba love sponge.
• 1:14:57
  He does once a year the Bubba Army Royalty party and they
• 1:15:02
  invite you know certain people in for this for the year.
• 1:15:05
  And then he he considered an invite.
• 1:15:08
  Like they even talked about it on the show.
• 1:15:10
  And they they were, he was he was about to do it and then his
• 1:15:13
  Co host said something and then they started arguing about it
• 1:15:16
  and anyway they just kind of moved on from it.
• 1:15:20
  I was like, I think he was about to do that until y'all started
• 1:15:22
  talking about stuff. He started kind of getting mad
• 1:15:24
  at her because she was questioning him and like the
• 1:15:26
  whole it turned into an argument about something else.
• 1:15:28
  I'm like, wait, what about me? You know she was.
• 1:15:31
  About to happen. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:15:34
  They come get an invite here, hush on him.
• 1:15:36
  Hush, let him invite me. They let Molly do it.
• 1:15:40
  They let Molly call on and make sure make it happen.
• 1:15:42
  Yeah, we got we got references now.
• 1:15:44
  There we go. You know, hey, that's another
• 1:15:46
  thing. We never use Blasey, but I do
• 1:15:48
  got a contact that can that can find out who publicist for
• 1:15:51
  things like that and all that kind of stuff is if we ever need
• 1:15:54
  to backdoor some of that. So I know that's your people,
• 1:15:56
  they ought to let you in the front.
• 1:15:57
  But if we ever need to try to backdoor, I can make a phone
• 1:16:00
  call. That's the power of the hand.
• 1:16:03
  Believable. That might be even, like, like,
• 1:16:05
  magical. All of a sudden we show up in
• 1:16:07
  the back door like, whoa, OK. I mean, 'cause I mean obviously
• 1:16:11
  I've obviously I've we got a, you know I have we have a
• 1:16:14
  publicist and stuff and they handle and there's several in
• 1:16:16
  Nashville that handle all types of high end and all types of
• 1:16:20
  media stuff. And I'm sure, I'm sure they do
• 1:16:23
  all Jr. Favor if I needed a solid.
• 1:16:25
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah, but look.
• 1:16:28
  Before we before. We dive out of here, Joey
• 1:16:31
  eyeglasses. Look at Joey eyeglasses.
• 1:16:34
  He's new in here, says Go Cornhuskers.
• 1:16:36
  Thanks for stopping in, Joey. Nebraska we love.
• 1:16:39
  Omaha we love. Nebraska love.
• 1:16:42
  Omaha here. David and I definitely do is in.
• 1:16:46
  In fact, there is a show. I'm going to have a show.
• 1:16:49
  My son and I went on an epic journey to Omaha Hall this past
• 1:16:53
  summer to see LSU go through that run and win, win the
• 1:16:58
  national championship. Haven't documented everything
• 1:17:01
  out there yet. So I'm going to have our second
• 1:17:04
  youngest correspondent come on to the show.
• 1:17:08
  Our field correspondent, my son Riley Salter, little Tigs he
• 1:17:14
  will be, will be making a debut at some point the spring on the
• 1:17:18
  show. So you'll be.
• 1:17:20
  And I was just actually, I just got a text Blasey from our
• 1:17:23
  youngest Murphy layered. He just was texting me, asking
• 1:17:27
  me, asking me to Had we ever done a, Have I ever done a show
• 1:17:29
  with Lynyrd Skynyrd, Which is a random question.
• 1:17:33
  He's like, hey, Uncle Jr. this is Murphy.
• 1:17:35
  Have you ever done a show with Lynyrd Skynyrd?
• 1:17:36
  I'm like, hey, I had. A feeling Murphy's watching.
• 1:17:39
  So hello Murphy. Thanks for watching.
• 1:17:41
  I know. And he is itching to come on.
• 1:17:43
  Oh that's the any capacity boy. Just let him know he was like
• 1:17:46
  we're we're just trying to get back started.
• 1:17:47
  First of the year I was like we've only done two shows Let us
• 1:17:51
  get some things going. But Murphy we got you.
• 1:17:53
  We got you locked in. We're going to do some stuff
• 1:17:55
  with you, brother. I promise you.
• 1:17:56
  Yes. Sir, we are.
• 1:17:57
  We are. Look, I mean, let's just stop it
• 1:18:00
  here. This is a great, a great
• 1:18:02
  stopping point. I appreciate David Ware for
• 1:18:05
  coming on with us. It's been a bit of a stranger to
• 1:18:07
  Tigs bits. But you're coming back.
• 1:18:09
  We will have you back on this season, yeah.
• 1:18:12
  I'd love to. You'd love to.
• 1:18:14
  Good. You don't have.
• 1:18:15
  A choice or any time. Come on, Dave.
• 1:18:17
  That's right. That's right, Handler.
• 1:18:19
  I'm glad to see you're feeling better.
• 1:18:21
  Number one, 'cause he was under the weather, folks.
• 1:18:24
  But this dude grinds. He pushes through.
• 1:18:27
  He doesn't let adversity get him down.
• 1:18:29
  He's from the Sabin era, and here he is.
• 1:18:32
  You know he's here. Made it in.
• 1:18:35
  Thanks. To thanks to one of our thanks
• 1:18:37
  to, I think, Doctor Dowd and his magical steroid shots.
• 1:18:40
  Thank you, Doctor D. That's it.
• 1:18:42
  And then everybody should go home tonight.
• 1:18:44
  Like when you lay down before you go to bed, you how much you
• 1:18:46
  love them and how much Nick Saban loves them.
• 1:18:48
  Have you on them oatmeal cream? Yes, Sir, as you're listening to
• 1:18:51
  my. Way I got something for you.
• 1:18:52
  Amanda ordered this the other day.
• 1:18:55
  I'm going to show this before we leave.
• 1:18:57
  Oh, love it. Got that link?
• 1:19:00
  Love it. Yes, Sir.
• 1:19:02
  Bring that out. Let's just show that all over
• 1:19:04
  here. Y'all that's good.
• 1:19:05
  That's a perfect closer. Perfect.
• 1:19:08
  Closer. Well, gentlemen, we will see you
• 1:19:11
  all next time. Ladies and gentlemen in the
• 1:19:13
  chat, thank you all for tuning in, listening to us share this.
• 1:19:17
  Like it? Don't forget to subscribe.
• 1:19:19
  That's. Cool Alabama bottle from
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  Handler. Good to see you, David.
• 1:19:24
  We'll see y'all next week.