Latest / Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast / 🍊 RHOC Reunion Finale Plus Serving Dish; Jen Shah, Meghan King & more!
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Hi, welcome back in. It's a fabulous Friday
- 0:23Speaker 2: and rainy at that here in Los Angeles, and we
- 0:27Speaker 2: are going to be talking about the Real Housewives of
- 0:29Speaker 2: Orange County today. And what's wonderful is not only is
- 0:33Speaker 2: Emily teresis joining us. Hi, Emily, Hello, good morning, Good
- 0:37Speaker 2: morning one and all, but the darlings are here as well,
- 0:40Speaker 2: because we are doing a livestream exclusive for the Patreon friends,
- 0:45Speaker 2: and they are in the chat. I'm looking at them
- 0:48Speaker 2: right now. I got a lot of thumbs up. Hey everybody,
- 0:51Speaker 2: So Hi, ta cash for seventeen. Hey, Tracy Robin and
- 0:59Speaker 2: Stephen Hide. So we are going to get into Orange
- 1:02Speaker 2: County in just a moment. Before we do, we have
- 1:06Speaker 2: some things to discuss that's going on in the news.
- 1:10Speaker 2: So let me do a little little dish for you. Okay,
- 1:12Speaker 2: everybody serving dish. Well, Well, well, it hasn't been a
- 1:18Speaker 2: dull twenty four hours. You know, I was reading through
- 1:22Speaker 2: Instagram this morning. As it turns out, I was looking
- 1:25Speaker 2: at all about the tea. They have a story that
- 1:27Speaker 2: says that Candy Buris removes Tucker from her ig and
- 1:32Speaker 2: she spotted without her wedding ring. So divorce rumors are swirling.
- 1:36Speaker 2: That is allegedly what people are saying. Lord, I can't
- 1:40Speaker 2: imagine a world where Candy and Todd are not together.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I just I thought that they Look, let's just hope
- 1:48Speaker 2: it's not true. Darlings, How are you feeling about Todd
- 1:51Speaker 2: and Candy?
- 1:53Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it happens. Honestly, I can't believe
- 1:58Speaker 3: they made it this far, but okay, and it's not
- 2:01Speaker 3: a failure that that relationship is. I mean they've they
- 2:05Speaker 3: had a really great relationship. Maybe it's not gonna last
- 2:09Speaker 3: the end of time, but I think that marriage was
- 2:13Speaker 3: like a really good partnership for a long time.
- 2:16Speaker 2: As I love how we're just immediately calling it it's over. Well,
- 2:21Speaker 2: I mean they had a good run. They had a
- 2:24Speaker 2: good run. Yeah, we hope it's not true either.
- 2:26Speaker 3: I'm saying if it's if it's going that way, yeah,
- 2:29Speaker 3: let's not look at it as like a failure. It's
- 2:32Speaker 3: just it's going to evolve, maybe into a different kind
- 2:35Speaker 3: of relationship.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Maybe they might get ron when in Todd involved, I mean, you.
- 2:40Speaker 3: Never maybe perhaps you never know.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Well, there's other news that happened, and this was alarming
- 2:47Speaker 2: for most that Megan King temporarily lost custody of her
- 2:53Speaker 2: three kids to her ex husband, Jim Edmunds, And this
- 2:58Speaker 2: happened a couple of days ago when apparently the school
- 3:03Speaker 2: called CPS. And the account is that allegedly she gave
- 3:10Speaker 2: one of her twins unprescribed medication, and I believe that's
- 3:14Speaker 2: allegedly Riddlin, if that's if I'm correct about that. Page
- 3:20Speaker 2: six is told that she allegedly gave Hayes, who's seven,
- 3:25Speaker 2: riddle in multiple times, even though he has not been
- 3:27Speaker 2: diagnosed with attention deficit deficit hyperactivity disorder, and the source
- 3:35Speaker 2: is saying that the school nurse to administer the medication,
- 3:39Speaker 2: which prompted Child Protective Services to get involved. A yeah, yea,
- 3:46Speaker 2: this is just a mess. You know, we've seen Megan
- 3:50Speaker 2: on the show. We've seen her be an incredible mom
- 3:53Speaker 2: to both of her twins and to her daughter, and
- 3:58Speaker 2: this is alarming. I'd like to know what is actually
- 4:01Speaker 2: happening here. It just seems like, you know, I just
- 4:05Speaker 2: hope it's not what it looks like, because sometimes these
- 4:09Speaker 2: types of things can be incredibly misleading, incredibly misinformed. You know,
- 4:16Speaker 2: in it's possible maybe he did have a prescription and
- 4:21Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't refilled and so maybe she had I
- 4:26Speaker 2: don't know, riddle in from another thing and that's what
- 4:29Speaker 2: it was. You know, there could be something that is
- 4:32Speaker 2: to explain here, And I would.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Say in the state of California, that's where they are, right.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Are they still in California?
- 4:41Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought she was an Idaho so okay,
- 4:44Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 4:45Speaker 3: In the state of California, they would drill down on
- 4:49Speaker 3: that and figure that out real fast, and they would
- 4:52Speaker 3: do everything possible to not give one parent soul custody.
- 4:57Speaker 3: So I don't know what that. If they're in California,
- 5:02Speaker 3: I would say that they had really looked into it.
- 5:05Speaker 3: But I don't know where they are. They live in Missouri.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Robin says, I just saw the chat.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Oh Missouri, thank you, I said, I don't.
- 5:14Speaker 3: Know what goes on there. I don't know what goes
- 5:16Speaker 3: on there, but.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Well, yeah, maybe should you.
- 5:19Speaker 3: See Kelly well Mems.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Wait, I didn't see that.
- 5:26Speaker 3: What she's like, I really liked Megan, me me Mers.
- 5:31Speaker 3: She didn't even say the name. She was like going
- 5:34Speaker 3: so fast. She was a microwaving quiet woman leftover.
- 5:39Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
- 5:40Speaker 3: She's like making me members.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Was No, I didn't see the actual live like I
- 5:47Speaker 2: saw a screenshot of it, but I did hear that
- 5:50Speaker 2: she was the source that brought this to the masses
- 5:55Speaker 2: because she had spoken with Meghan. So you know, you know,
- 6:00Speaker 2: Stephen brings up something in the comments. You know, Jim
- 6:03Speaker 2: Edmonds was looking for anything to knock Megan down. I mean, listen,
- 6:07Speaker 2: I believe that in any way possible, she does have
- 6:11Speaker 2: temporary like she can you know, visit with the kids
- 6:14Speaker 2: right now. She just has temporary loss of custody. The
- 6:18Speaker 2: hearing is coming up very soon. I believe.
- 6:21Speaker 3: That's why I was like, if they're in California, they
- 6:24Speaker 3: I will say, California is very good at like not
- 6:30Speaker 3: picking with a parent like they're very It's very hard.
- 6:34Speaker 3: It's almost impossible to get soul custody like that. So
- 6:39Speaker 3: that's why I'm saying, like, unless it's they like drill
- 6:42Speaker 3: down into it, at least in Alameda County and Los
- 6:46Speaker 3: Angeles County. I'm very aware of that because of different
- 6:49Speaker 3: friends situations. It's like so hard. So that's why I
- 6:54Speaker 3: was like, woof wow. But I don't know where she is,
- 6:57Speaker 3: so I.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Don't know Missouri. Yeah, Robin is saying, apparently, yes, thank you, Julie.
- 7:03Speaker 2: She likes my glasses. I just switched out one pair
- 7:06Speaker 2: for another. I'm just gonna keep doing that the whole episode.
- 7:12Speaker 2: I'm gonna go through my library of readers here. Okay,
- 7:16Speaker 2: this is breaking news and I got I got this
- 7:18Speaker 2: on Queen's and Bravo. But Jen Shaw is going to
- 7:20Speaker 2: be released from prison on December tenth, according to People
- 7:24Speaker 2: You guys December tenth, December tenth.
- 7:29Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not cool with this. I'm not I'm.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Not cool with it either. I don't think it's I'm sorry,
- 7:35Speaker 2: but I don't think it's enough time.
- 7:36Speaker 3: I don't either, like she fully like robbed elderly people
- 7:42Speaker 3: out of their all their money, Like I hate this.
- 7:46Speaker 3: What does that smirk for? Amy?
- 7:49Speaker 2: Well, I was actually just thinking about the Orange County
- 7:52Speaker 2: reunion and someone said on the reunion like, well, yeah,
- 7:57Speaker 2: or no, it was Salt Lakes. I don't remember where
- 7:58Speaker 2: this was. Maybe was on a panel, maybe's watch what
- 8:01Speaker 2: Happens Live Maybe you guys can tell me. But somebody
- 8:04Speaker 2: was like, well, yeah, jen Shaw, I mean she's really.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Oh yeah, somebody was like, she's got a really good personality,
- 8:10Speaker 2: like she's really charming. I mean she can she can
- 8:12Speaker 2: charm like anybody from like, you know, a teenager to
- 8:16Speaker 2: like an old person. I mean what I meant was
- 8:19Speaker 2: so like they they backed into basically saying exactly what
- 8:24Speaker 2: she did, which is she took advantage of senior citizens
- 8:27Speaker 2: because she's so charming. Yeah, it had to have been
- 8:30Speaker 2: on a Watch What Happens Live show because yeah, and
- 8:36Speaker 2: it was maybe it was Angie that said it. Yeah,
- 8:38Speaker 2: I think it was. So that's what I was laughing at. Yeah, Aaron,
- 8:44Speaker 2: I don't think it's enough time. It's shocking. Who's the
- 8:48Speaker 2: gallon there with her? Again? I always forget her name
- 8:50Speaker 2: is Zizabeth? Okay? Yeah, So like I just saw shots
- 8:55Speaker 2: of her with her kids visiting her, you know, I
- 8:57Speaker 2: mean like she's still in there and she was in
- 8:59Speaker 2: there for Jenshaw.
- 9:02Speaker 3: I mean, yes, I think Elizabeth Holmes different crimes. Yeah,
- 9:08Speaker 3: but I do think that. I mean, thirty thirty three
- 9:12Speaker 3: months is not enough. That's just my I think it
- 9:17Speaker 3: needs to be longer. I don't think Heather's going to
- 9:20Speaker 3: feel good this Christmas.
- 9:21Speaker 2: No, everyone's going to be looking over their shoulder. You're right,
- 9:27Speaker 2: that's so true.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:30Speaker 2: How long is Gilaine Maxwell in there?
- 9:34Speaker 3: Oh?
- 9:34Speaker 2: Well, yeah, someone I don't know, Elaine okay.
- 9:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like she's supposed to be in there
- 9:41Speaker 3: a long time, but given the nature of everything.
- 9:45Speaker 2: She might pop on out. Oh, Elizabeth serving eleven years,
- 9:49Speaker 2: that's right. I think it was that, Aaron, thank you
- 9:52Speaker 2: all right.
- 9:52Speaker 3: Well.
- 9:53Speaker 2: In other news, Jenna lyons actually, oh, Aaron says twenty
- 9:58Speaker 2: twenty years okay. Alliance has posted to her Instagram this morning.
- 10:03Speaker 2: She said the rumors are true and so ultimately she
- 10:08Speaker 2: is not going to be coming back to the Real
- 10:09Speaker 2: Housewives of New York. She said, I was grateful to
- 10:12Speaker 2: be asked to join season sixteen of Ronnie as a
- 10:15Speaker 2: friend of knowing my personal that's weird, Okay, I guess
- 10:19Speaker 2: she was bumped up to housewife even though she wasn't
- 10:21Speaker 2: going to share, she said, knowing my personal life wasn't
- 10:24Speaker 2: really available to be filmed. We agreed that made sense,
- 10:28Speaker 2: and after thinking, oh, season sixteen meaning the next one,
- 10:33Speaker 2: not when she originally came on, my apologies, so that
- 10:37Speaker 2: that actually makes sense. She was asked to join as
- 10:39Speaker 2: a friend of.
- 10:41Speaker 3: That's great, that's great. That's what she always wanted to
- 10:45Speaker 3: be anyway, she just wants to come in and bring
- 10:47Speaker 3: bags of swag.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Yeah, have a laugh, y and jump into her closet
- 10:53Speaker 2: and v the Yeah, I mean it's great. So she said,
- 10:56Speaker 2: you know, that made sense, But after thinking it through,
- 10:59Speaker 2: she's made the difficult decision not to return the show,
- 11:03Speaker 2: and I think that's really stupid. Quite frankly, it says,
- 11:06Speaker 2: she says, I will be the I would be the
- 11:08Speaker 2: oldest and openly gay woman on the show, and feel
- 11:12Speaker 2: like this is an opportunity for a new dynamic to emerge.
- 11:17Speaker 2: What I don't understand that. What does that have to
- 11:19Speaker 2: do with anything a new dynamic on the actual show.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Yeah, she's just saying like she doesn't think she at
- 11:27Speaker 3: this time can vibe with what the show is because
- 11:31Speaker 3: that's not her thing anymore. Like you can't get it.
- 11:34Speaker 2: I mean she would.
- 11:38Speaker 3: Instead. Yeah, I love Jenna, but that's not a show.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, we need that's not a show.
- 11:47Speaker 3: That's not a show we need. We do need sy,
- 11:50Speaker 3: we do need Aaron, Like we don't need Jenna coming
- 11:53Speaker 3: in with swag and silence.
- 11:57Speaker 2: If she's a lend of you know that would be
- 12:00Speaker 2: right perfect. I'm very disappointed because also she would have
- 12:04Speaker 2: made a lot of money. If she's doing like these
- 12:06Speaker 2: day rights, she would still be majorly on the radar.
- 12:10Speaker 2: And I think she's gonna regret it, I really really do.
- 12:14Speaker 2: I mean, I look, I think that she could get
- 12:17Speaker 2: along with anybody. I don't think people in New York
- 12:19Speaker 2: would judge her, maybe if they were in other cities.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Like I just think that that, you know, she's a
- 12:25Speaker 2: hip It doesn't matter how old you are, it doesn't
- 12:27Speaker 2: matter what your sexual orientation is. But so I'm actually
- 12:31Speaker 2: quite I'm mad. Do I see mad? I'm mad. I'm mad.
- 12:33Speaker 2: I'm mad, I'm mad.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm mad. Okay, Well, the good news is it's
- 12:38Speaker 3: never over, so she could come back at any time.
- 12:42Speaker 3: That's on good terms.
- 12:43Speaker 2: That is true.
- 12:44Speaker 3: We all love her.
- 12:46Speaker 2: We love her, bummer. How do you guys feel about
- 12:50Speaker 2: the Ema Thornton arrest? Anyone have anything to say about that?
- 12:54Speaker 2: That was again shocking. We talked a little bit about
- 12:57Speaker 2: it yesterday. Oh my god, Bravo snark side put up
- 13:02Speaker 2: the real mugshot jail shots of Bravo and said Mia Thornton,
- 13:05Speaker 2: welcome to the hall. Of mugshots and jail shots. So
- 13:10Speaker 2: it's just there's a lot.
- 13:12Speaker 3: It looks she has a great mugshot. I will give
- 13:15Speaker 3: her that.
- 13:15Speaker 2: I mean, it's me, let me zeem it. And she
- 13:18Speaker 2: looks beautiful. Yeah, she looks so good, super stunning, especially
- 13:23Speaker 2: for leaving in the dead of matter.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Yeah, she did.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Leaving in the dead of night like that. You know,
- 13:30Speaker 2: this is what she was bringing to the table, like
- 13:33Speaker 2: a chic black jumpsuit, just hair perfect, very like on
- 13:37Speaker 2: naturelle makeup, love it very good. I felt my heart
- 13:42Speaker 2: growing broke.
- 13:43Speaker 3: My heart broke for her when the cops were putting
- 13:47Speaker 3: the handcuffs on her and she was just like, just
- 13:50Speaker 3: do it, and he's asking her as a comfortable here.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Oh my god. I was just like no, no, no, no,
- 13:57Speaker 3: like poor me. I don't know. I I have not
- 14:00Speaker 3: read anything about it, so before I'm like poor Mia.
- 14:04Speaker 3: I just felt a lot of compassion for her in
- 14:06Speaker 3: that moment.
- 14:08Speaker 2: I mean she took eleven thousand dollars worth of furniture
- 14:10Speaker 2: from the condo. Obviously it was like pre uh you know,
- 14:16Speaker 2: you know when they they put decor in stage like stage, Yeah,
- 14:22Speaker 2: furniture okay, right, And so she took that. You know,
- 14:28Speaker 2: pam is saying Pamela is saying that Ink was arrested too. Interesting, Wow,
- 14:33Speaker 2: I furnished?
- 14:34Speaker 3: Is the word?
- 14:35Speaker 2: Thank you?
- 14:36Speaker 3: Cash? Yeah?
- 14:39Speaker 2: He you know, lookan, I guess because it's it's a
- 14:44Speaker 2: high ticket number. But like, I'm just like becoming a
- 14:49Speaker 2: major softy. I'm like looking at these mugshots. I'm going,
- 14:53Speaker 2: you know what, you know, let's just oh god, I
- 14:57Speaker 2: just I just feel bad. I feel bad. I feel bad.
- 14:59Speaker 3: I do too, because then I think about like Erica
- 15:02Speaker 3: Jeane It's like, you know, one hundred.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Thousand never had to be put handcuffs on her.
- 15:10Speaker 3: And Kim Zulciak crazy credit card like debt that she
- 15:15Speaker 3: racked up and that they were gonna arrest but they
- 15:17Speaker 3: never arrested her.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Is that a crime though? Is that a crime?
- 15:21Speaker 3: It it becomes a crime once it like goes to
- 15:27Speaker 3: you get summoned and then you don't show up to
- 15:30Speaker 3: court and all that. I don't know, you know, every
- 15:34Speaker 3: state is different. I just was like, man, I just
- 15:38Speaker 3: assumed there was more to it than the furniture thing.
- 15:40Speaker 2: To your point, interesting, Okay, I guess time will tell,
- 15:45Speaker 2: and my gosh, just tough times.
- 15:49Speaker 3: I just saw Steven say poor Mia, Emily. That's how
- 15:53Speaker 3: I'm doing my Stephen reading poor Miah.
- 16:00Speaker 2: It was just that moment at a girl Addie girl
- 16:03Speaker 2: says civil penalty but could be found in contempt. Oh okay,
- 16:08Speaker 2: and that's that's pam Yeah, I'm sorry, Pamela Addie. I
- 16:13Speaker 2: like your addie girl name. I think that's super cute.
- 16:15Speaker 2: I love that I.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Haven't missed Mia this season, though I will know. It's
- 16:21Speaker 3: I kind of not that I forgot about her, but
- 16:24Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, Mia.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So all right, Well that's all the news
- 16:30Speaker 2: that I have right now, unless something else has popped
- 16:33Speaker 2: up on Instagram. Uh da da da da. Let's see here.
- 16:37Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just kind of scrolling Denise Richards
- 16:40Speaker 2: ex Aaron Viper's I'm in danger of being homeless. That's
- 16:44Speaker 2: TMZ eleven minutes ago, and he's saying that there's new
- 16:49Speaker 2: legal doc. Oh, TMZ is saying there's new legal docs
- 16:52Speaker 2: obtained by TMZ. Denise Richard's a strange husband says he's
- 16:55Speaker 2: begging friends for money to afford food, and his pickup
- 16:58Speaker 2: truck is subject to re possession, and he says he's
- 17:01Speaker 2: in danger of being evicted at any time. He says
- 17:05Speaker 2: the bills have stacked up to the six figures he
- 17:07Speaker 2: desperately needs. In an earlier hearing, well you know, what
- 17:12Speaker 2: are you gonna say? What are you gonna do this guy?
- 17:15Speaker 2: He's yeah, he's got criminal charges. You know, he's got
- 17:18Speaker 2: a felony for domestic violence case that he needs to
- 17:20Speaker 2: come He needs to come up one hundred and fifty
- 17:22Speaker 2: k for legal fees. Yeah, he's a danger.
- 17:25Speaker 3: I don't have any sympathy for him at all.
- 17:28Speaker 2: I don't either. That's what TMZ is up there. Okay,
- 17:32Speaker 2: shall we move on.
- 17:33Speaker 3: To Yeah, and I'm glad that you didn't bring up
- 17:36Speaker 3: any Carol Radsweld news because she has now said she
- 17:39Speaker 3: was just flat out for her own pranks, telling people
- 17:43Speaker 3: things that provo con on the red carpet. She's like, yeah,
- 17:46Speaker 3: I told people I was coming back. Then I told
- 17:48Speaker 3: people I was gonna do this like every She was like, yeah,
- 17:52Speaker 3: it was just because nobody was listening to me when
- 17:54Speaker 3: I was saying no. So then I was just like,
- 17:57Speaker 3: I'm just gonna lie.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Oh my god, I haven't seen anything about that. No
- 18:02Speaker 2: one was in the new cast.
- 18:04Speaker 3: I was like what she's back.
- 18:06Speaker 2: Okay, that's hilarious. Good job, Carol. She's you know, she's
- 18:11Speaker 2: one of She's one of you, Emily, she's your people.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Love that woman.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Yes, yes, oh my god, thank you so much. Who
- 18:19Speaker 2: watched the extended, unfiltered, uncensored unbeknownst to us version of
- 18:28Speaker 2: Orange County on Peacock because they.
- 18:30Speaker 3: Were really pushing it. I watched Bravo?
- 18:36Speaker 2: Okay, so good, did you?
- 18:38Speaker 3: I did?
- 18:39Speaker 2: I watched Bravo. I watched Bravo, and then I watched
- 18:44Speaker 2: most of the uncensored and unother did I mean? I
- 18:47Speaker 2: don't know if I could tell much of a difference,
- 18:49Speaker 2: you know, except just so much yelling and screaming and words.
- 18:53Speaker 2: You know you watched it, uh Tina? Okay, well let's
- 18:58Speaker 2: get into it. Let's get talk about Orange County, you guys.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Amsterdam a real just just a romp, a joyful romp
- 19:06Speaker 2: through all the ladies having a great time there. Andy
- 19:09Speaker 2: had a lot of wonderful shout outs for the ladies
- 19:13Speaker 2: having fun, and you know, Heather du Bro basically getting
- 19:17Speaker 2: into you know, being surprisingly really into you know, micro dosing,
- 19:24Speaker 2: Thank you mushrooms and Shannon tripping out and the whole thing.
- 19:29Speaker 2: That was great. I loved it, and then we like
- 19:32Speaker 2: got and we got right into it, we got into
- 19:34Speaker 2: the hate posts, we got into the Gretchen and this
- 19:38Speaker 2: is when things really really went and it took a
- 19:42Speaker 2: while to come back. And I feel like they were
- 19:44Speaker 2: yelling for probably like forty seven minutes of the entire episode.
- 19:49Speaker 2: I mean it was a lot.
- 19:51Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't I was not. I'm not convinced
- 19:57Speaker 3: with Gretchen, Like, I don't know what she was trying
- 20:00Speaker 3: to prove or not prove, like what. I don't. I'm
- 20:04Speaker 3: not like, I'm still like, you did this, you did this,
- 20:08Speaker 3: and they still were out there. I even after that
- 20:11Speaker 3: episode aired, somebody sent me something and I went right
- 20:15Speaker 3: there and it was still liked in her page, Like
- 20:17Speaker 3: it wasn't like so, yeah, I don't know.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that what she was trying to
- 20:26Speaker 2: isolate was, as she said, the most egregious post and
- 20:31Speaker 2: I don't know which one that was, but she is
- 20:34Speaker 2: basically saying the cyber investigator that she hired was what
- 20:41Speaker 2: honed in on the most egregious post and then was
- 20:46Speaker 2: saying that that is attached, that wasn't real, and there's
- 20:51Speaker 2: you can't authenticate that actual post and that it's actually
- 20:55Speaker 2: tied to Tamera. So that's where she was trying to
- 20:59Speaker 2: pull from that. She was trying she was owning up
- 21:02Speaker 2: to everything else except for the most egregious post. Again,
- 21:06Speaker 2: I don't know what that was, but Tamra, according to
- 21:09Speaker 2: tamer she's saying they probably took it down because it
- 21:11Speaker 2: had a hate word in it, and you know, well,
- 21:16Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it, but she said it because
- 21:17Speaker 2: it's beeped out, and and so that's where, you know,
- 21:22Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know what this cyber investigator
- 21:27Speaker 2: what they're up to, but I can't see like it
- 21:30Speaker 2: being tied to Tamra. Maybe because Tamra, I don't. I
- 21:35Speaker 2: don't know. But at the end of the day, Gretchen
- 21:41Speaker 2: did the right thing. She denounced everything that she liked
- 21:45Speaker 2: and what she did everything that everybody wanted her to do,
- 21:48Speaker 2: which is essentially saying sort of like, yes, I liked
- 21:53Speaker 2: all those posts and I believe in that. But she
- 21:56Speaker 2: was like, I don't realize when I'm what I'm liking.
- 21:59Speaker 2: I don't realize how many people I'm following that have
- 22:01Speaker 2: this rhetoric. And I learned my lesson, So it doesn't
- 22:06Speaker 2: excuse anything. But she's guilty. We all know it. We
- 22:11Speaker 2: all know she did it. And she said she's sorry
- 22:13Speaker 2: and she learned a lesson. There's nothing else more to
- 22:15Speaker 2: say about it. Like, that's where I go. She she
- 22:19Speaker 2: did take ownership. There's nothing The hiring the cyber person
- 22:24Speaker 2: was stupid because it couldn't really prove anything. And if
- 22:28Speaker 2: she's just isolating one post, it kind of negates everything
- 22:32Speaker 2: she's saying. It's like, okay, so then you liked all
- 22:34Speaker 2: these other ones, but you didn't like one that bad.
- 22:39Speaker 2: You know that not one that's that bad. But it
- 22:41Speaker 2: doesn't matter. And I really enjoyed hearing Heather say, look,
- 22:47Speaker 2: when you follow this many accounts like this, I mean,
- 22:51Speaker 2: there's no there's no way around it. It's obviously a
- 22:53Speaker 2: reflection of you know who you are and what you
- 22:57Speaker 2: what you want again, and Andy said, it's a free country.
- 23:00Speaker 2: You know, not every single housewife is going to be
- 23:02Speaker 2: on the same page as the next person, as us
- 23:05Speaker 2: as whomever. That's just a fact, you know, that's a fact. Yes,
- 23:09Speaker 2: she got caught in.
- 23:11Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that she is saying, she's one thing and
- 23:15Speaker 3: she's operating a different way, and it's and it's the
- 23:19Speaker 3: line of like us. It's very hateful, I mean, like
- 23:23Speaker 3: the things that that she is saying that. The other
- 23:27Speaker 3: part of this is like, how is your whole business
- 23:30Speaker 3: this Instagram account? And yet you seem to have no
- 23:33Speaker 3: idea of how to operate it in a like you
- 23:37Speaker 3: just have no governance. You just like like life like
- 23:40Speaker 3: and then like whatever and follow, follow follows.
- 23:43Speaker 2: What's weird is that she never even blamed people who
- 23:46Speaker 2: run her social media. She never even tried to blame
- 23:50Speaker 2: anyone other than herself, which was surprising to me, because
- 23:53Speaker 2: she does have to have help. She's probably not able
- 23:57Speaker 2: to like all these things all the time. I mean,
- 24:01Speaker 2: in my opinion, and when you're following forty five hundred
- 24:04Speaker 2: people and you're that one person, like, I don't think
- 24:10Speaker 2: that that's something that she's in charge of. So I
- 24:12Speaker 2: was shocked. Usually people in this situation say it's the people,
- 24:18Speaker 2: it's my social media people. It must have been some
- 24:20Speaker 2: person from my team. That's where they go. She didn't.
- 24:23Speaker 3: She's never going to throw Slade under the bus.
- 24:26Speaker 2: And it was and it had to have been. Yeah,
- 24:28Speaker 2: that's what I for sure.
- 24:30Speaker 3: I did think that there was some redeeming moment there
- 24:33Speaker 3: for Tamra, because Tamra reminded us that she had talked
- 24:38Speaker 3: about this on her show a couple of years ago,
- 24:41Speaker 3: and she had mentioned it throughout the season to Heather
- 24:46Speaker 3: who didn't want to know about it, and to Yea
- 24:50Speaker 3: and to Gina, and people were like, I'm not touching it.
- 24:54Speaker 3: So now when I think back to that dinner in
- 24:57Speaker 3: Amsterdam where Heather was like the glove her off, I'm like, well,
- 25:00Speaker 3: wait a second, Heather, you knew about this and you
- 25:04Speaker 3: said you didn't want to know about it, right, so
- 25:06Speaker 3: what is this?
- 25:08Speaker 2: I agree with you? And I found it to be
- 25:13Speaker 2: very confusing because Gina felt like she was used as
- 25:17Speaker 2: a pawn and she was clearly. I mean, that was
- 25:20Speaker 2: obvious from the jump, and I could understand Emily being
- 25:23Speaker 2: mad about that. Tama couldn't. Tamara could not accept that
- 25:27Speaker 2: she set Gina up. I mean, don't can we all
- 25:29Speaker 2: agree that she kind of set Gina up to be
- 25:31Speaker 2: the messenger of this?
- 25:34Speaker 3: She did? It did seem that way, Yeah, I think so.
- 25:37Speaker 3: It's just that it's also like I finally really got
- 25:40Speaker 3: what Tamara was saying when she's like, nobody believes me
- 25:44Speaker 3: when it comes to Gretchen, and then I wish you
- 25:47Speaker 3: would have strung these two thoughts together. I've been telling
- 25:50Speaker 3: you guys this for a minute, and nobody wanted to
- 25:53Speaker 3: pay attention to me because it was me, so Gina
- 25:56Speaker 3: was the messenger.
- 25:57Speaker 2: But why bring it up then? I mean, Andy kept saying,
- 26:00Speaker 2: I bring it up?
- 26:00Speaker 3: Now?
- 26:00Speaker 2: Why bring it up now? I guess that's the question
- 26:04Speaker 2: I have too.
- 26:05Speaker 3: It seemed like she brought it. She had she and
- 26:08Speaker 3: Gina had talked about in Orange County and it was
- 26:10Speaker 3: still hanging out there. Then Tamra and Gretchen made up.
- 26:14Speaker 3: And then I was confused on that edit of why
- 26:20Speaker 3: Jean did Ginas say something again about it in Amsterdam?
- 26:24Speaker 2: But I don't That's what I'm saying, like, yeah, I
- 26:29Speaker 2: don't know why it was brought up again, Not to
- 26:32Speaker 2: say that, like it's important to know who we're watching.
- 26:37Speaker 2: But here's where I here's where this is interesting because
- 26:42Speaker 2: when you look at an audience of the Real Housewives,
- 26:45Speaker 2: you know it's not going to be the same demographic.
- 26:51Speaker 2: It's not going to be the same people with opinions,
- 26:53Speaker 2: and but you know people aren't going to have the
- 26:56Speaker 2: same opinions. So Gretchen is coming on this show knowing
- 27:02Speaker 2: that she's following these accounts that clearly go against I
- 27:08Speaker 2: would say a good portion of the audience in what
- 27:11Speaker 2: we believe, you know, and she took that risk.
- 27:15Speaker 3: If it's out there, it's it's fair game. It's how
- 27:18Speaker 3: are you going to deal with this? I mean, it's
- 27:20Speaker 3: just like in life. If somebody finds something out about
- 27:22Speaker 3: you that you were you thought you could like not reveal,
- 27:27Speaker 3: it's they're gonna find it out and they're going to
- 27:29Speaker 3: confront you.
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- 35:02Speaker 2: were basically in many ways, Tamra heard about this post
- 35:07Speaker 2: from two years ago when it was sent to like Teddy,
- 35:09Speaker 2: I guess, and then they didn't really talk about it.
- 35:12Speaker 3: They did on Two Teas and then and that's and
- 35:17Speaker 3: that was the reminder I needed.
- 35:19Speaker 2: I also, I thought that they buried it. Did they
- 35:22Speaker 2: they did talk about it on the show. I thought
- 35:24Speaker 2: that they chose not to bring it up on the show. Darlings, Darlings, Darlings.
- 35:30Speaker 2: I got, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Did they did
- 35:33Speaker 2: Two Tea's actually bring it up on their show? Or
- 35:38Speaker 2: was this information sent and then they decided not to
- 35:44Speaker 2: air it? That's the question.
- 35:46Speaker 3: It was my understanding erit or I thought that they
- 35:49Speaker 3: did airit, but erit or not. Tamra shared with everybody
- 35:54Speaker 3: at that time, like those in the OC circle like
- 35:59Speaker 3: this stuff about Gretchen, like this was kind of old news.
- 36:04Speaker 2: Oh she shared it within the circle.
- 36:06Speaker 3: Yeah, And I thought to Tea like.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, Robin says, I don't think they did
- 36:12Speaker 2: talk about it. It came back around again and Teddy said,
- 36:14Speaker 2: we knew about this and pulled up their text thread again,
- 36:17Speaker 2: and I think before the season, okay, that that does
- 36:21Speaker 2: make sense. And when Andy was saying the Tamra, what
- 36:25Speaker 2: you just had made up? Why why did you bring
- 36:29Speaker 2: this up? And she didn't really have an answer for that,
- 36:33Speaker 2: you know, like she kind of didn't have an answer
- 36:35Speaker 2: for it. So I felt like, well, she just wanted
- 36:38Speaker 2: to bring it, bring it up.
- 36:40Speaker 3: And then Robin said that video was out after they wrapped, right, yeah,
- 36:45Speaker 3: And Tracy says, I'm guessing it wasn't on on to
- 36:48Speaker 3: teas because Tamra looked so bad on Orange County for
- 36:51Speaker 3: not having mentioned it.
- 36:56Speaker 2: Well, she did look.
- 36:57Speaker 3: Bad, but like also they were all like, yes, I knew,
- 37:00Speaker 3: I knew.
- 37:00Speaker 2: It right, I know, it's really wild. I mean Heather,
- 37:04Speaker 2: I felt like Heather, that was interesting to see the
- 37:07Speaker 2: footage of Heather unseen, you know, when she like got up,
- 37:10Speaker 2: She's like, I'm not you know, yes, that was wild
- 37:15Speaker 2: and she did it. She just protected her. I think
- 37:17Speaker 2: that's why Heather flew off the handle, because she had
- 37:19Speaker 2: kind of protected her for a long time, you know,
- 37:21Speaker 2: by not Gretchen. Yeah, protecting Gretchen. And I thought that
- 37:27Speaker 2: everything that Heather said was amazing, and the way that
- 37:32Speaker 2: she explained it to Gretchen, it was it was a class,
- 37:36Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, a class.
- 37:39Speaker 3: When we watched that episode, you and I were both
- 37:42Speaker 3: like pissed that Tamar was holding this and almost ambushing
- 37:48Speaker 3: the cast that would have never co signed to be
- 37:50Speaker 3: filming or whatever. They didn't want their brand mixed with Gretchen's,
- 37:53Speaker 3: and you and I were like, Tamra, why would you.
- 37:57Speaker 2: Hold this back?
- 37:58Speaker 3: Especially when it affected how there's so much and she's
- 38:01Speaker 3: right so that this reunion yeah, really changed that for me.
- 38:06Speaker 2: Dad knew, Heather knew, and she was trying to take
- 38:09Speaker 2: the high road, and I found it interesting for her
- 38:14Speaker 2: to say, like, listen, Gretchen, there have been rumblings about
- 38:18Speaker 2: your rhetoric in different communities for a long time, and
- 38:23Speaker 2: now it's now it's time to pay the price. And
- 38:28Speaker 2: that's essentially you know that that was the come to
- 38:31Speaker 2: Jesus moment.
- 38:32Speaker 3: And I think it was good of Anny to be like,
- 38:35Speaker 3: you can be left wing, you can be right wing,
- 38:37Speaker 3: but these posts aren't that, you know what I mean?
- 38:42Speaker 3: These posts are hate driven and they're homophobic, and there
- 38:47Speaker 3: was a few that were, you know, I think, kind
- 38:50Speaker 3: of racist. So like, I was glad that Andy's like,
- 38:54Speaker 3: this isn't about who you're going to vote for. You
- 38:56Speaker 3: can be whatever you want to be politically, that's not
- 38:58Speaker 3: what this is. He didn't fully say that, but like
- 39:02Speaker 3: I maybe I read between the lines on that, but
- 39:06Speaker 3: I was just he definitely didn't say that's not what
- 39:08Speaker 3: this is, but he did. He said he did, I
- 39:11Speaker 3: because I didn't want Gretchen or somebody to say, like,
- 39:15Speaker 3: you get a pass because politics are politics, and that's
- 39:18Speaker 3: over there. These are different. Yeah, that's yeah. So anyway,
- 39:24Speaker 3: and I guess at the end of the day, I'm like, guys,
- 39:27Speaker 3: you're all mad at Tamra. I did feel for Tamra
- 39:29Speaker 3: in that moment. What why are we yelling at Tamra.
- 39:33Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 39:34Speaker 2: I'm surprised you said that because she she seemed like
- 39:39Speaker 2: she was deflecting at times too. But I understand what
- 39:43Speaker 2: you're saying that the way that things came out and
- 39:48Speaker 2: about it, it didn't It wasn't like a direct line.
- 39:52Speaker 2: And Tamra with the okay, with the leaking of this person,
- 39:57Speaker 2: the grow actually traumers that she was plotting. That's a
- 40:02Speaker 2: bat whole thing, Okay, But they were all coming at
- 40:05Speaker 2: her for that, so you know, and she also didn't
- 40:09Speaker 2: have answers for certain things. There was a lot of
- 40:11Speaker 2: deflection on her end. But I do understand what you're saying,
- 40:15Speaker 2: that she was being yelled at when we should have
- 40:17Speaker 2: been mad at Gretchen, and we were, and I think
- 40:20Speaker 2: that Gretchen did get that. Gina apologized to Gretchen for
- 40:24Speaker 2: not pulling her aside in order to like talk to
- 40:28Speaker 2: her about it.
- 40:29Speaker 3: What are we doing?
- 40:30Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't not like keep going.
- 40:34Speaker 3: I was just like, what are we doing? What are
- 40:36Speaker 3: we doing? Well?
- 40:37Speaker 2: I think because Gina has Gina felt so used by
- 40:42Speaker 2: Tamra that she didn't want to be that person and
- 40:47Speaker 2: she wanted to be her own person. That's why I
- 40:49Speaker 2: think she apologized to Gretchen just for the sake of like,
- 40:54Speaker 2: I was used by her, and I shouldn't have done
- 40:57Speaker 2: it the way that she wanted me to do it.
- 40:58Speaker 2: What I should have done is is I have a
- 41:00Speaker 2: problem with what you're doing in the media in social media,
- 41:04Speaker 2: and I'm gonna come to you and talk to you
- 41:05Speaker 2: about it, is what I think she was saying. I mean,
- 41:08Speaker 2: that's fair. It actually doesn't really matter that much to me.
- 41:12Speaker 2: At all as a viewer. I mean it so that's
- 41:15Speaker 2: between them, but yeah.
- 41:18Speaker 3: I mean it's just like it's like one of those
- 41:19Speaker 3: things where it's like Tamra was wrong on nine out
- 41:22Speaker 3: of ten things, but this one. I was like, can
- 41:27Speaker 3: you not pull focus from what Gretchen did here? Gang,
- 41:30Speaker 3: like this is what she actually did.
- 41:33Speaker 2: When when Gretchen said, like, this company did a lot
- 41:37Speaker 2: of research on accounts and they were unfortunately tied to Tamra,
- 41:41Speaker 2: and she was like I really like you, but you
- 41:43Speaker 2: know they're tied to you, and Tamra's like, el Cilia
- 41:46Speaker 2: fucking ass. I'm like, yeah, I mean that is a
- 41:49Speaker 2: really that's a hell of a thing to say. Yeah,
- 41:53Speaker 2: And I fear legally for Gretchen in that instant because
- 42:00Speaker 2: I mean she's essentially saying that she's the one who
- 42:02Speaker 2: brought this to light uh's or brought this up? Yeah,
- 42:08Speaker 2: and then it's nowhere to be found. Boy, I hate
- 42:11Speaker 2: being in the weeds. I really hate being in the
- 42:13Speaker 2: weeds with these gals.
- 42:15Speaker 3: Well because our only sources are a screaming camera and
- 42:19Speaker 3: a lockjaw gretch. It like I don't know where to go, Like, I.
- 42:23Speaker 2: Well, we had Heather, we had Heather, and that was great,
- 42:28Speaker 2: And I also liked how Heather's like, look, when you
- 42:30Speaker 2: follow this many, you're going to have on your for
- 42:33Speaker 2: you page, you know a lot of messages that may
- 42:36Speaker 2: not align with what who you are. And so I
- 42:39Speaker 2: think that was almost like the smoking gun, like if
- 42:41Speaker 2: you follow that many, because she unfollowed two hundred mm hm,
- 42:46Speaker 2: your for you page will be a representation of what
- 42:51Speaker 2: you follow right and what you're looking at. You're for you,
- 42:54Speaker 2: bring you out, bring for you out. So like then
- 42:59Speaker 2: it she almost doesn't have an excuse because it's like
- 43:03Speaker 2: you're seeing what you're following. You can't tell me that
- 43:06Speaker 2: you don't know what you're following when your for you
- 43:08Speaker 2: pagees popping up, like and I love that. Everyone was
- 43:11Speaker 2: like Mine's dogs and Heather was like mine's cake decorating
- 43:15Speaker 2: and folding, which I love and I thought about you too,
- 43:19Speaker 2: cake decorating, folding. I don't have in my algorithm. Mine
- 43:22Speaker 2: is all cats, all cats because I go through Instagram
- 43:26Speaker 2: reels with Maddie and I have that curated very specifically
- 43:30Speaker 2: in instareels to just cat stuff, which is great. Okay, well,
- 43:36Speaker 2: Robin is saying.
- 43:37Speaker 3: The Gretchen ing who said, Tracy.
- 43:40Speaker 2: Tracy the gretchening. Okay, that's hilarious, Tracy. I'd love to
- 43:44Speaker 2: hear what your for you pages are you guys pop
- 43:47Speaker 2: in the comments. For you pages aren't. In the meantime,
- 43:51Speaker 2: Robin says, I think Emily is behind the blogger. Same
- 43:55Speaker 2: with the sham light detector test. I think Gina told
- 43:58Speaker 2: Emily about her conversation with Tamra about the post. Emily
- 44:02Speaker 2: kept saying only Gina and Tamra knew about it.
- 44:06Speaker 3: I have a theory, Okay, I think it's Teddy, and
- 44:10Speaker 3: I don't think it's intentional. I think Tamra is telling
- 44:14Speaker 3: is you know, with Teddy all the time, very connected,
- 44:18Speaker 3: and I think Teddy I think there's just some loose
- 44:22Speaker 3: lips around that are are talking because people do know stuff,
- 44:27Speaker 3: but they don't know, they don't they don't seem to
- 44:31Speaker 3: know beat by beat. But the source is Tamra and
- 44:34Speaker 3: I don't think. Again, I don't think it's intentional. But
- 44:36Speaker 3: who else is she talking to all the time? And
- 44:39Speaker 3: I know that she's not necessarily recording with Teddy, but
- 44:42Speaker 3: they're talking every single day.
- 44:45Speaker 2: Well, God, I can't imagine it would be Teddy. But
- 44:48Speaker 2: I would absolutely agree with you that it's somebody in
- 44:50Speaker 2: the podcast world.
- 44:53Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because from their show, just somebody has
- 44:58Speaker 3: the information.
- 44:59Speaker 2: It's right coming from Tamra. And Andy clearly knew that
- 45:03Speaker 2: because he was like, she was like, I never do this,
- 45:06Speaker 2: I never do this. I've been on this show for
- 45:08Speaker 2: fifteen years. Da da da. And He's like, well, I
- 45:10Speaker 2: mean it's it's getting out yeah, And I thought, wow,
- 45:14Speaker 2: Andy is like, no, it's getting out from you because
- 45:16Speaker 2: this is so when Shannon says to Tamra, you know,
- 45:21Speaker 2: this is what it is. I scratch your back, you
- 45:23Speaker 2: scratch mine. I feed you what's going on in the season,
- 45:27Speaker 2: and you keep me as a fan favorite on your
- 45:31Speaker 2: on your in social media. That totally makes sense. Maybe
- 45:35Speaker 2: that's the case. Maybe it's somewhere in between. What I'm
- 45:40Speaker 2: saying is these accounts will support her, will support her,
- 45:43Speaker 2: and that's the agreement. So you know, so what like
- 45:47Speaker 2: I think that Tamra when she says, I never leak storyline,
- 45:51Speaker 2: I never leak storyline. And to me, when this blogger
- 45:57Speaker 2: was talking on the phone, they weren't saying exact storyline.
- 46:03Speaker 2: They weren't so in many ways where.
- 46:06Speaker 3: They filmed and right that kind of stuff.
- 46:09Speaker 2: So they didn't say like exactly what the storyline was. So,
- 46:15Speaker 2: if anything, I kind of think it is sort of Tamra.
- 46:18Speaker 2: I do kind of think maybe it is Tamra and
- 46:20Speaker 2: she's just playing the game that a lot of people play,
- 46:23Speaker 2: which is and she just got caught. And why would
- 46:26Speaker 2: this person why did this person get so hell bent
- 46:30Speaker 2: on exposing Tamra, Like what did this person? What did
- 46:33Speaker 2: Tamra do to this person in order for them to
- 46:36Speaker 2: just call the rest of the three of them and
- 46:41Speaker 2: tell on tamor like why what was their motive in that?
- 46:44Speaker 2: What was that all about? Yeah? Why did they do that?
- 46:49Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I don't know, because this person doesn't want
- 46:55Speaker 3: to be known, so you can't say they wanted to
- 46:57Speaker 3: be on the show.
- 46:59Speaker 2: M hm.
- 47:00Speaker 3: So Tamar must have.
- 47:01Speaker 2: Upset piky Monique. No, I'm kidding. I mean, it's got
- 47:08Speaker 2: to be somebody who either is in the does feel
- 47:15Speaker 2: like they have a responsibility for press, you know, and
- 47:19Speaker 2: journalism in the housewives world that they're like, what she's
- 47:23Speaker 2: doing is wrong and they wanted to like be the
- 47:27Speaker 2: person who is correcting that, or camera did something to them,
- 47:33Speaker 2: and Camar did something to them. Okay, that's my hunch.
- 47:37Speaker 3: But I also I can see a world too where
- 47:40Speaker 3: Tamra's just running her mouth toever like Teddy or somebody,
- 47:46Speaker 3: and somebody doesn't like Tamar and gets all these details
- 47:49Speaker 3: and is like, I want to expose her because I
- 47:52Speaker 3: don't think to Shannon's point, I was like, Shannon, you're
- 47:56Speaker 3: a fan favorite. At the end of the day, people
- 47:58Speaker 3: love Shannon for Shannon, whereas like Tamra, people love to
- 48:03Speaker 3: hate and she's the villain in a lot of ways.
- 48:06Speaker 3: So I don't and I feel like that on social
- 48:09Speaker 3: media too. I think people go pretty hard for her.
- 48:11Speaker 3: So I didn't think that that argument was that sound
- 48:16Speaker 3: like Tamra. We when Tamar wasn't on, we all were like, man,
- 48:21Speaker 3: we kind of need Tamra back because she's diabolical and
- 48:24Speaker 3: terrible and I would never want to be friends with her.
- 48:26Speaker 3: She's awful, but we need her back. That was always
- 48:30Speaker 3: the vibe. But I don't think I mean, I don't
- 48:35Speaker 3: think she's a I don't think that people are nice
- 48:37Speaker 3: to her online. That's what I'm trying to say.
- 48:39Speaker 2: Oh god, no, I mean I think she got death
- 48:42Speaker 2: threats recently, you know, yeah, yeah, But she could have
- 48:46Speaker 2: accounts that are going to support what she's doing, you know,
- 48:51Speaker 2: on the show.
- 48:53Speaker 3: But we're savvy enough to see what that is. The
- 48:56Speaker 3: second I see one of those, I'm like, Okay, Tamra.
- 49:00Speaker 2: Says, Heather was right, Tamar needs to stop swearing on
- 49:02Speaker 2: our children's lives. Everybody needs to stop swearing on their
- 49:05Speaker 2: children's lives. Even though in those that moment, I'm like,
- 49:09Speaker 2: oh wow, okay, maybe I'll believe you. But you know,
- 49:14Speaker 2: I think that Tamra, with the logistics of not leaking
- 49:17Speaker 2: storyline and holding to that, she can still swear in
- 49:20Speaker 2: her kids' lives because she's not actually leaking storyline. She's
- 49:23Speaker 2: just saying this is kind of the bullet points and
- 49:27Speaker 2: we were here and this is kind of what's happening.
- 49:29Speaker 2: I mean, she could be doing this.
- 49:32Speaker 3: Yeah. And I also think that this person that had
- 49:35Speaker 3: the speakerphone call could be getting information from a couple
- 49:39Speaker 3: of different sources and just putting it all on Tamera,
- 49:42Speaker 3: because like he was, he was mentioning things that a
- 49:46Speaker 3: lot of people were at and there were multiple witnesses
- 49:50Speaker 3: now the private conversation, Like I think he it and
- 49:55Speaker 3: I know I said this when it happened. It did
- 49:56Speaker 3: feel like like in some ways, like when you go
- 50:00Speaker 3: to see a psychic and they're like, you're wearing a
- 50:04Speaker 3: red shirt because that matters to you. And then you
- 50:06Speaker 3: start talking more and it's like he was just giving
- 50:09Speaker 3: them foundational information for scenes that a lot of people
- 50:12Speaker 3: were at and then he had like a nugget of
- 50:14Speaker 3: something that they really held on too. So I do
- 50:18Speaker 3: think it's Tamera. I don't know if it's intentional. And
- 50:22Speaker 3: then I think he obviously he's hearing a lot of
- 50:24Speaker 3: things and he said it all of it on that
- 50:26Speaker 3: speaker call.
- 50:27Speaker 2: It's Eddie. Eddie was the one who was telling.
- 50:32Speaker 3: Number.
- 50:34Speaker 2: It was so awful to have to listen to that
- 50:36Speaker 2: and endure that, like you know, treasure right camera on
- 50:41Speaker 2: g ap plotting on you. It's terrible. So well, okay, okay,
- 50:54Speaker 2: I want to Oh, I want to share with you
- 50:55Speaker 2: guys what everybody's algorithms are, what they're for you page.
- 51:00Speaker 2: So let me just go through here. We've got m Stephen,
- 51:09Speaker 2: hot hymbos and Reality TV, Julie's Golden Retrievers and recipes,
- 51:15Speaker 2: Tracy Cats, Dogs, Babies, Karen VIDs, oh and Buffy for
- 51:24Speaker 2: Steven Yes, of course, Robin is cats, the packers and Bravo.
- 51:28Speaker 2: We've got laughing babies, historic homes and Bravo, Bravo, Bravo,
- 51:34Speaker 2: fucking Bravo, bulldogs, Bravo, skincare, laser treatments, nice fashion trends,
- 51:41Speaker 2: the royals and interior designs. Love it. And let's see
- 51:46Speaker 2: puppies and training. Okay, this is great. I love it.
- 51:53Speaker 2: So let's move on the voice of the blogger. We
- 51:56Speaker 2: just kind of covered Oh, Shannon, this blogger being like
- 52:01Speaker 2: and I heard that Shannon called Bravo because she wasn't
- 52:04Speaker 2: invited to the up front.
- 52:06Speaker 3: That was great, and that she was saying it while
- 52:12Speaker 3: they were filming, and then they had that footage of her.
- 52:15Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was great.
- 52:17Speaker 2: That was amazing.
- 52:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:19Speaker 2: Tama's like, she's like, well, I called Bravo and I said,
- 52:23Speaker 2: and Tamas like, you called Bravo and you said you
- 52:26Speaker 2: said that, Like she was shocked. It's so interesting to
- 52:29Speaker 2: see a little behind the scenes, like how much they
- 52:32Speaker 2: have to respect and revere like the great Bravo. Even
- 52:36Speaker 2: Tamra was shaking in your booth. She's like, you called Bravo,
- 52:40Speaker 2: Like you actually said, why did you not invite me,
- 52:43Speaker 2: and Shean's like, yeah.
- 52:44Speaker 4: I said, is it is it me? I just I
- 52:46Speaker 4: don't am I did I Louise my invitation to the upfront.
- 52:49Speaker 4: I really wanted to go to the upfront and I
- 52:51Speaker 4: had Archie. I got Archie a new textedo and and
- 52:54Speaker 4: I thought that is it something I did?
- 52:56Speaker 2: And they're like, no, we love you. No, of course not.
- 52:59Speaker 2: It's so it was really awkward, and it's you know,
- 53:03Speaker 2: the behind the scenes of the housewives, all the politics
- 53:06Speaker 2: and how that must be very competitive and and tough
- 53:10Speaker 2: when you have these events and certain housewives are invited
- 53:13Speaker 2: and certain are not.
- 53:15Speaker 3: Yeah, and also like upfronts, people don't like doing up
- 53:20Speaker 3: It's it's not a fun thing to go.
- 53:22Speaker 2: Well, no, the housewives love it because it's about that,
- 53:26Speaker 2: and you're talking about like actors and producers, and like
- 53:29Speaker 2: people's like it's a it is a no, not the housewives,
- 53:38Speaker 2: I upfront, I upfront. I want to get up in front.
- 53:47Speaker 2: It was really cute, and I did feel bad for Shannon,
- 53:49Speaker 2: and I was like, I wonder if it's like now
- 53:51Speaker 2: I want to go back and see who was at
- 53:53Speaker 2: the upfronts because they typically choose like maybe one from
- 53:57Speaker 2: each city, you know, I mean if that they don't
- 54:00Speaker 2: even choose one from everybody, Like it'll be fan I say,
- 54:04Speaker 2: and fan favorites. It'll be like Kyle, you know, and
- 54:08Speaker 2: like Tamra.
- 54:10Speaker 3: Giselle, Ashley, Like, they're probably going to pick East Coasters too,
- 54:14Speaker 3: because that's cheaper. It's yes, excently upfronts in New York.
- 54:19Speaker 2: Yeah they are. Yeah, so yeah, they're going to do that,
- 54:24Speaker 2: and we got a look.
- 54:26Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely need to look because it will be
- 54:29Speaker 3: a look red carpet photos from it.
- 54:33Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh this is funny, Jonathan said, I think we
- 54:37Speaker 2: are missing the obvious. This is a scheme that Todd
- 54:40Speaker 2: set up. I agree with you. Yes, so basically we've
- 54:49Speaker 2: got that blogger just outing Shannon for the upfronts. Okay,
- 54:56Speaker 2: Gina feels set up by Tamra. Oh god, this was
- 54:59Speaker 2: so funn When Tamra her argument became about Slade, she
- 55:05Speaker 2: was like, none of us happened, none us is the
- 55:06Speaker 2: problem until you shut up.
- 55:09Speaker 3: It's as Slade Slade it magic. I agree, Tamra, but
- 55:15Speaker 3: then Andy talked me down. But yeah, because Andy's like,
- 55:19Speaker 3: wait a second, there's no way that Slade would have
- 55:21Speaker 3: known this. But in that there. I literally had in
- 55:24Speaker 3: my notes, could this be Slade? I think Slade is
- 55:28Speaker 3: diabolical and the fact that he wasn't at the reunion
- 55:31Speaker 3: means he his hands are in something and he does
- 55:35Speaker 3: not want to be called out for it on camera
- 55:38Speaker 3: and all eyes would have been on him at the reunion.
- 55:41Speaker 2: I mean Slade didn't show up, Ryan didn't show up
- 55:45Speaker 2: when those guys we have a lot to say, you know,
- 55:49Speaker 2: I mean, Eddie never show.
- 55:50Speaker 3: A Slade, especially specially.
- 55:52Speaker 2: There was no reason for him. I honestly think he
- 55:55Speaker 2: was going to show up and Gretchen was like, if
- 55:57Speaker 2: you show up, I will divorce you. I honestly think
- 56:00Speaker 2: that she had to pull rank over him because I
- 56:03Speaker 2: think that she was like, you have made this season
- 56:05Speaker 2: a living hell for me and I don't want you there.
- 56:08Speaker 2: That's what I think. Do you guys agree with me?
- 56:11Speaker 3: I also think he's guilty. I think he's very guilty.
- 56:14Speaker 3: I think he's guilty in the Katie mess, and I
- 56:16Speaker 3: think I think that he probably has leaked things I don't.
- 56:19Speaker 3: I think this is on Tamra the speakerphone allegation, but
- 56:23Speaker 3: I think I think his hands are dirty in a
- 56:27Speaker 3: number of ways. Like he's not clean in any.
- 56:29Speaker 2: Of this at DMS, Brick says, Tama is going to
- 56:31Speaker 2: be like a dog with a bone with a collar,
- 56:33Speaker 2: with the collar and totally sus them out. I'm dying
- 56:36Speaker 2: to know who the caller was, and I really would
- 56:39Speaker 2: love to hear her sus them out.
- 56:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard. I've read some theories online, but I
- 56:45Speaker 3: don't know if any of her are right at this point.
- 56:48Speaker 3: I never did follow up. And you can tell me
- 56:51Speaker 3: though it's not the guy from ninety eight degrees, I
- 56:54Speaker 3: don't think exactly.
- 56:56Speaker 2: Charlotte, Oh my god, she says, I miss when you
- 56:59Speaker 2: would say I feel like in Stephanie's wee from Dallas.
- 57:02Speaker 2: I miss it too.
- 57:04Speaker 4: I feel like a flake auntim is like guilty and
- 57:07Speaker 4: a flake. I f like slate is like behind this
- 57:09Speaker 4: and like a flake. Whatever's being leaked is like a flake.
- 57:12Speaker 4: It's like probably like Emily, a flake.
- 57:17Speaker 2: I missed that. I do miss that. That was so
- 57:19Speaker 2: fun to do, like.
- 57:22Speaker 3: Like what I did. I loved Dallas.
- 57:25Speaker 2: I mean they went down in a ball of flames
- 57:29Speaker 2: because of their racism.
- 57:31Speaker 3: Was it all of them or was it what your
- 57:34Speaker 3: pretty much? I don't know.
- 57:35Speaker 2: I feel like you know they all man like was
- 57:39Speaker 2: homophobic and one was homophobic and like one was racist,
- 57:42Speaker 2: and it was like, we're out.
- 57:44Speaker 3: You know, Wow, I totally forgot about that. I just
- 57:48Speaker 3: thought it was I just thought, oh my gosh, I
- 57:51Speaker 3: am basing on her name, blue eyeshadow, all the eye shadow, Randy, No,
- 57:56Speaker 3: the lead, the oh Leanne.
- 57:59Speaker 2: It was like like and Brandy and then the tall
- 58:04Speaker 2: skinny one's now I remember it, three of them.
- 58:09Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm remembering. All right. Well, so you know,
- 58:13Speaker 3: I feel like I forgot it.
- 58:15Speaker 4: Flake we left in the back. I flake, that's what
- 58:19Speaker 4: it is.
- 58:19Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, indeed, let's see what else everybody has. Okay,
- 58:24Speaker 2: let's move on to I love Heather's Heather this season.
- 58:32Speaker 3: Just that monologue she delivered.
- 58:36Speaker 2: This has to stop.
- 58:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
- 58:38Speaker 2: I did love it, and I love Here's what I
- 58:40Speaker 2: loved about it. I did, I did love it, and
- 58:42Speaker 2: here's what I loved about it.
- 58:43Speaker 3: One.
- 58:44Speaker 2: These these gals are a mess. They're a mess. Every
- 58:47Speaker 2: gallon this couch is a it's a hot mess. And
- 58:49Speaker 2: like they're yelling and they're it's it's it's nuts, right,
- 58:53Speaker 2: There's no level head left at this point. So, yeah,
- 58:57Speaker 2: I was here, for it, and when she said, if
- 58:59Speaker 2: anyone comes on the show and thinks it's Survivor, there
- 59:02Speaker 2: they're got They've got another thing coming. And I love
- 59:04Speaker 2: that because when Katie came on the scene, it was
- 59:07Speaker 2: kind of like she was entering a competition show. And
- 59:11Speaker 2: that's what I didn't like about her.
- 59:13Speaker 3: I didn't like that.
- 59:14Speaker 2: Where we stand now, you know, it's you know, it's
- 59:17Speaker 2: it's a little left up to everybody's sort of lying everybody.
- 59:20Speaker 2: I feel like everyone's lying. I feel like everyone's you know,
- 59:23Speaker 2: leaking and all this stuff. But I did appreciate Heather
- 59:26Speaker 2: calling the show out to be like Survivor and that
- 59:28Speaker 2: that was good. That was good to hear.
- 59:29Speaker 3: That was fine. It's just that we get the this
- 59:32Speaker 3: has to stop. We are friend, we get this every
- 59:36Speaker 3: third episode from someone. So when Heather like laid it
- 59:40Speaker 3: down as though this has never been said before, I'm like,
- 59:43Speaker 3: all right, Heather, this is like pointless, but go ahead
- 59:46Speaker 3: with your monologue.
- 59:48Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead. I like it has to stop, you
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- 1:04:27Speaker 2: Jen Nicole said that you went up to her at
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: the party and oh, this was okay, this Nicole person,
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: This Nicole person. Do you know what I'm talking about
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: right now? This is the very end our.
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: Boyer. So she's the wife.
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: Of Matt, who's the bookie. Matt is the bookie, and
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: Ryan right so.
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: Ryan's not going to prison. Max is going to prison.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: And so Katie going up to Nicole at a party
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: and was like, so is Ryan involved in this? Is
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: he like involved in this Bookie? Stuff is dirty? And
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: sus like that again, I mean, what do you She
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: walked right up to her and asked that question. So
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: you cannot this. Gal hasn't learned one lesson. You know,
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: I would have done the same thing.
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: I would have done the same thing.
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: I didn't think as a as a viewer. Katie is
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: on the show.
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: This is thought.
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: This is Jen's one of Jen's good friends.
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: But to Katie's point, there's a couple of things happening.
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: Nicole is trying to get on the show. She's talking
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: with casting and they missed that, right, That's true. So
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: also Katie said that Nicole told her that she doesn't
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: hear from Jen. She hasn't talked to Jen, which makes
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: sense because I'm sure Ryan and Jen maybe are trying
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: to distance themselves. Maybe I don't know, so and Katie's
- 1:05:58Speaker 3: not talking to Jen. And if I'm Katie, I'm like,
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time with Jen and Ryan,
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: and I aligned myself with them. I'm just gonna ask,
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: I'm just gonna ask, or what do you you know?
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: What do you know? I didn't think it was that crazy, but.
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: It's a fair question. But to think it wasn't going
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: to get back to Jen is absurd, and it just
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: goes to show that she is willing to do I
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. It did rub me the
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: wrong way because I was like, she's never gonna she's
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: never gonna learn.
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: Well, I thought of all the things that Katie has done,
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: this one was fair.
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: I don't is she trying to be Is she trying
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: to be friends with Jen? Again? If she is, this
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: isn't the way to do it right.
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: No, But I don't know. If I don't know her
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: in that window of time, I don't know if Katie
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: you thought she was going to be friends with Jen
- 1:06:53Speaker 3: because I didn't realize Also how angry Katy was until
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: I saw that clip of her being like you took
- 1:07:00Speaker 3: my paycheck? Like it cut deep. Yeah, So I don't
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: know how mad she actually was at Jen at that point. Okay,
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: so I don't think that they were. Now, what I
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: don't agree with is the other stuff that Katie, you know,
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: is is doing, which is clearly like talking to bloggers
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: and sidebarring and getting ammo like in a in a
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: out and about with bloggers, kind of aligning with people
- 1:07:29Speaker 3: that are going to spread rumors and all that. But
- 1:07:32Speaker 3: this I thought was fair game.
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: Okay, I'm hearing that. I'm hearing that she keeps the
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: ball in play in terms of their their rift. It's
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: just not helping anything. It's keeping it pretty steady on
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: who she is and what she's doing. And I understand
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: that she's angry at Gen. The paycheck thing did throw
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: me off. I was like, paycheck, huh, Like a housewife
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: brings that up when they're broke, Like that's to me
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: that was weird. I was like, cool, you know when
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: a housewife brings up you're messing with my paycheck. That
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: makes me feel like very skeevy inside, like you're just
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: doing this for a paycheck. Well, look, I don't know how,
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: I don't know how to. I got to reconcile this
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: with myself. But one, you need that paycheck so bad
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: that that just goes to show what you're willing to
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: do to get it. When in fact, that's why when
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: Jeff Lewis talks about having wealthy people on the show,
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: You're not going to get that type of response from
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: those people. When you have affluent people, they're not going
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: to be like, you're messing with my paycheck because they
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: don't give a shit about their paycheck because they're making
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: so much money elsewhere. So for me, it does take
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: away a little bit of the uh mystique and affluency
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: of what we're watching. It's weird, yeah it is.
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: And I gotta also say, like, we know that Katie
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: to be a true scrapper for a long time, so
- 1:09:02Speaker 3: that I don't think we'll ever leave, like because you know,
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: in terms of.
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: Her past paying like, regardless of how wealthy she is,
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: she'll always feel like.
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: So I'm willing to give that to Katy. And at
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: the same time, I'm totally with you. I'm like, well, like,
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: can we pretend this isn't? Like I do want to
- 1:09:21Speaker 3: be able to pretend, But yeah I did. I was like,
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: oh they were not. Katie was very hurt by Jen, so.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: Yeah, and if Jen was at that dinner and Jen
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: did not have Katie's back by saying that is what
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: was said, I would be so pissed too. So now
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: I'm actually backpedaling because yeah, because I believe that it
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: was said at that dinner, and I believe in that incident.
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why Slade wasn't there because I think
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: he could not confront. I don't think he could fully
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: stand his ground with Matt On.
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: He couldn't. Absolutely, that was wild. See Matt there trying
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: to get a word in edgewise.
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: I know, poor Matt, Poor Matt.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: He was.
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: He did not handle it great, No, he didn't.
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: He didn't.
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: He showed up.
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: You know, who would have thought that this guy would like,
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: you know, show up and and say all this, and
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: they had his texts up there and the big screen. Yeah.
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: And he also didn't like plead his case perfectly. Yeah,
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: And I felt bad for him because I know I
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: do believe him, but I was like, oh no, here
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: comes Emily.
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so bad. Oh man, he didn't know it.
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: He justually, he says, Matt was terrible.
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: You just can't like expect to walk in to the
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: den like that, like it's a wolf pack and think
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: that you are going to clear it up because you've
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: done a couple of you know, you know, presentations for
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: your work. Like it doesn't translate you can't hold your ground,
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: my friend the housewives.
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: No, you need to train like you're in a presidential debate.
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: If you're coming in there that cold, you need to have.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: Like a training, a training, a full proper training.
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: Yeaheah, yeah, Diane says, goodbye, Katie. I had nothing, she added,
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: nothing but rumors and nastiness. I do think Katie will
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: be back.
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: You do well, just because.
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: The fans really reacted. Yeah, and I don't. I think
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: she's got one more chance, but I I don't think
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: she has many more chances after that. And Tamor will
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: film with her.
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, they're friends. That was interesting to
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: see Tamra. You know, they basically had their drink and.
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: Then cam that drink. All of them are like, yeah.
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: What were they drinking? I don't even remember.
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: Oh well it was it was so it was a
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: hurricane for New Orleans, like it was that drink.
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, those are good.
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: They want a sugar. There was a by the way,
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: there was a moment when Tarmu was getting it from
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: all sides and she's just like snarling but not talking.
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: Those faces were Yeah, it's like really intense.
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: I don't want to hang out with her. I just
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: want to say that.
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: I mean, there's a out of me. Look, she was
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: crying at the end, you know, and she's basically pleading
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: to Andy like I didn't do this, I didn't do this.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: And then she's back in the in the dressing room
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: with Katie and crying to her and she's like, I swore,
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: I swear I've never leaked. I've never done this before.
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: That's not what this show is about. Getting back to
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: Heather's speech, I mean, I thought it was great that
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: she was talking about, like we need to come back
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: to have the drama about us and out outside sources,
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: because that's when things get really twisted up. And that's
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: what I really appreciated.
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: What is Joanne saying here?
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: So wait, Diane says Heather is as a stoner schromer
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: Amazon dress wearing She's just like us. Did she have
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: an Amazon dress on, Diane? I didn't realize that, did she?
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: It was maroon. It was like a basic maroon cut.
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: Do you have some maroon fives Adam lavine piece. I
- 1:13:26Speaker 3: did love Gina's dress the most, I will.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Say, Oh, I couldn't get enough of it. It just
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: looked like a gorgeous glass of cabernet that I just
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: wanted to just drink up.
- 1:13:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: Wait, getting back to when Jen was like nicolesa that
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: you went up to her to a party and asked
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: if Ryan was involved as Matt's bookie. Nicole called me
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: as she was driving Matt to prison and like she
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: got caught off And I'm like, uh, can we go
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: back to that?
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: Yes?
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: Whoa, Yeah, Wow, there's.
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: Always one of those things that these reunions that I'm like,
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: we're not going to ask follow up questions on that one.
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: Like there's always something like that. There should be a
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: category of those.
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: So this will be interesting. I mean, I don't I
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: can tell you right now, I do not want someone
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: whose husband is in prison right now to come on
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: the show. No, no, thank you, no thank you.
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: We don't know anything about him except for he like
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: definitely did.
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: This like they were, you know, because they're talking about like, oh,
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: Katie said she'd prefer refer her to the show, and
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: John's like, no, I refer her to the show. She
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: said that you refer to her. I'm like, what are you
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: even talking about? No one wants her on the show.
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: Her husband is in prison. You know usually the way
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: that things these things go, or that you're on the
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: show for a while and then you go to prison.
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely you can't start there.
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: We can't.
- 1:14:51Speaker 3: We're VICKI back. We don't need We're fine, we don't
- 1:14:55Speaker 3: need that. And I will DM you, Stephen, because I'm
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: now seeing that Steven Sapiero every day at the WMR station.
- 1:15:04Speaker 3: I got a lot of MMR questions anyway, Oh, Amy
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: is not interesting.
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: Sorry, I actually wasn't doing that to be shady. I
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: genuinely just yawned. Look, it's been a long week. I
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: actually loud beyond it was. I'm so sorry demon meet
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: myself weren't alive. I am proud of us that we
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: were able to get through as many recaps as we
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: did when we hit the ground here. I mean, I've
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: been working from like six am to like one am
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: at night trying to get stuff done, especially like with
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: all the ads that I had this week on the
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: public and stuff. But we were able to crank out
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, Potomac Southern Charm.
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: Yeah A bravo conriecap.
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: Oh a bravo conriecap. And I know, sorry Stephen and
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: now Orange County, and I know that five that's normal
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: like for the recaps, but left, I just haven't three weeks.
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: I haven't slept in three weeks because like, let's be
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: real and con and you were rewriting.
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: Cabaret Aby and and also like produce so much getting
- 1:16:19Speaker 3: everything ready for the show. Yeah, you guys, Amy is
- 1:16:24Speaker 3: on borrow time.
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: I'm on borrow time, and I'm very excited because like
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: this is such a nice way to end the week,
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: having doing a live, Like I love this so much.
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: And we have to do more of these now because
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: you know, obviously with everything leading up to Bravo Con,
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: it just was it was just getting crazy. So well,
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: we'll make an effort to do more of these lives.
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: But we have Thanksgiving coming up next week, so there
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: is going to be a different schedule. I am going
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: to try to pop in, you know, something here and there,
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: but it's not going to be like how it how
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: it was this week, you know, So we'll do the best.
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: Also because I don't think there's gonna be a Salt
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: Lake City this week, you know, because of the holiday.
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: Right, Charlotte, how dare you? Howard Stern all the way
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: I know John Debella. No, she's a sign not I
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: love it.
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot of podcasts that just like
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: I loaded up yesterday, one at one after another after
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: another for a novar so you'll see them up there. Yeah,
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Tara.
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving everybody, I am. It's also like there's
- 1:17:35Speaker 3: so much like stuff that comes out after Bravo Con
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: because of Bravocon. I'm talking like crazy ass news and
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: shit like, yeah, it's sensory overla. I almost need them
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: to not have shows for a couple of days just
- 1:17:48Speaker 3: so I can be like.
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: It would be nice. And honestly, that's why I think
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: them doing this every two years is about all that
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: we can handle. Can you imagine doing it every year?
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: Yeah, it feel like we need two years. I think
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: that was the right call. When they first said that,
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: I was like a little bit bummed, But it's the
- 1:18:06Speaker 3: right call.
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: Because then they're able to, like Bravo always knows, then
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: they're able to basically like roll out more stuff for us.
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: I mean, they had so many shows that they were
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: able to launch and announce at Bravo Cohn you know, Yeah,
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: so that was exciting.
- 1:18:24Speaker 3: It's also interesting to me, like all the people that
- 1:18:27Speaker 3: I'm like, now just aware we're even there, Like I
- 1:18:30Speaker 3: didn't even realize that people were there, Like Captain Lee
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: was there and had a show at Caesar's.
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: Huh, I did not know that.
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: I'll send you a picture. He had like a talk
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: with the telling stories with Captain Lee.
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: Oh wow, by the way, Oh my god. Kate Chastain
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: was interviewed on US weekly, like on the carpet or whatever,
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: and I caught this last week during the con. She
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: was asked like, are you do you still keep in
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: touch with Captain Lee? And she was like, oh, well,
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: not not really much, not much anymore, really busy and
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: I was just like spending time with my toddler. And
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: then they're like, oh, okay, so you haven't really talked
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: to him much. And then she said and they were like,
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: how do you feel about it? She's like, oh, yeah,
- 1:19:16Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I'm happy for him, and I'm
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: happy for me, amy for him, and I'm happy for me.
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: And I was like, holy shit, something went down with them,
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: something down.
- 1:19:24Speaker 3: I agree, Wow, Yeah, I think he has this idea
- 1:19:29Speaker 3: of loyalty that doesn't really register in a practical way.
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I agree. With you. Unfortunately, it's the business,
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: and no one liked that he had to leave, you know,
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: below deck, but they had to do it, obviously for
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: reasons that were beyond the scope of what he was
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: able to do. I mean, like it's his health, and
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: I don't think he liked that. And he's a proud
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: person and no one wants to be you know, he
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: didn't leave on his own will, and he didn't like
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: that of course.
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: Yeah, but then there's like, I don't.
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: Know what else happened between them years, Like he just
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: comes out is he just seems to like get very
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: angry and cut ties in a way that's like it
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: doesn't it doesn't seem to be serving him. Steven said
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: he saw that interview with Kate and he said, I
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: think it's because she sided with Sandy.
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: Yeah, and why wouldn't she. I mean, like there's no sense.
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: It's also the kind of thing where I think Sandy's
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: like who cares, Like if Lee came up and wanted
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: to talk to her, now, I bet she'd be like, Hey,
- 1:20:28Speaker 3: how's it going. It's all him. He's just like this
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: angry storm. He's the rough waters.
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: Ah God. Yeah, Well, guys, when you say we wrap
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: it up? Huh when do you say? Anybody have anything
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: else you want to share? This was really fun. Yeah,
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: we are going to be decorating our house today for Christmas.
- 1:20:50Speaker 3: Oh maybe I'll do that. Oh, I mean, I've got
- 1:20:54Speaker 3: I'll come over it.
- 1:20:55Speaker 2: Over come on, over come on.
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: What I like to do is put a fresh could
- 1:21:00Speaker 3: have paid down first, of course you do. Don't mind me, Maddie.
- 1:21:10Speaker 3: Now nobody go in this room for three days and
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: then we start the decorating.
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: I have to show you guys something, Show and tell,
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: Show and tell, Hold on, hold okay. Tracy brought me
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: a wonderful gift to the show, and it is a
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: shark couterie board that says Drama Darling with my logo
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: on it.
- 1:21:30Speaker 3: Can you believe it's awesome?
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: That is great, Tracy, thank you so much. I love this.
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: So that is awesome. So and it can hang, which
- 1:21:41Speaker 2: is really cool because then I can on display on display.
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I love that. Yeah. Oh by the way,
- 1:21:50Speaker 3: fifty shades charcuterie boards, but people bought them as paddles.
- 1:21:55Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I bet smart. Yeah, speaking of on display,
- 1:21:59Speaker 2: you guys, I sent this to the Drama Darling thread
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: but I guess it was for Watch what Happens Live,
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: one of the lives they did. Have you seen it?
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: The mashup of like a holiday spectacular between three people.
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: It started out with Lisa Barlow singing away in a
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: manger on stage, and then it went into and then
- 1:22:23Speaker 2: it went into Melissa Gorga singing on the sleigh, on
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: the sleigh, and then yes, and then it went into
- 1:22:32Speaker 2: Luanne singing chic say the tree Dead.
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: It was incredible, Tara, we don't it is. And I
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: think they're singing live because they sound really bad. But like,
- 1:22:46Speaker 2: but at the at first, when Melissa started singing, it
- 1:22:51Speaker 2: looked like she was lip syncing because the microphone wasn't
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: in front of her face before she was singing.
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: They probably did a pre record of them live. They
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: probably did a rehearsal and played the rehearsal in case
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: the in case there's a tech issueing it.
- 1:23:08Speaker 2: Yeah smart, Emily, Okay, Well, I liked I liked that.
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: I liked that it if it was, you know, it
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: was definitely live, Terrisel.
- 1:23:18Speaker 3: It was definitely them singing.
- 1:23:20Speaker 2: But I mean, like Luanne is such a professional. She
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: was like, yeah, she's like you know, I don't. I
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: don't want to say she sounded bad at all. She
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: didn't like they they she's a professional. She sounds smooth
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: as hell. But like, it's still funny to watch them all.
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see peka. I I just know that
- 1:23:36Speaker 3: they probably had something piped in as a cover. And
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: that's okay, probably what happened when Melissa.
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: You'll see, because she was like it was like on
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: display on display on display, like it didn't even make sense.
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: But Barlow was like, oh wall Man, no crab boys head,
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: it's so good, did you guys? And yeah, she did
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: laugh when she was singing too. You're right, Stephen, Melissa
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: did the the the lyrics were great. They changed them
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: up for a parody. It was amazing, you know, to
- 1:24:12Speaker 2: make it more Holiday loved it cool. Okay. The the
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: other thing I got, I got two more things. Katie
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: from Arizonas gave me. I don't have it in front
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: of me, but a jade brooch and it's from Japan
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: and she it was her mother's and she's like, I
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: don't wear brooches, and I know you like brooches, so
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: I wanted to bring this too. So thank you Katie.
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: So much is so sweet and I know, really amazing.
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: And she had on this like denim dress that was
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: spectacular like it had it was like an art piece
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: almost like the way that there was decoration on it.
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: I can't explain it, but it was really really cool.
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: So Katy, I just want to give your shout out
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: for that. And then Amy Powers gave me a gift
- 1:24:59Speaker 2: of of Meredith Marx's caviar. It's in the refrigerator right now,
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: but I want to show you that the little mother
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: of Pearl spoon came with it in this little suede pouch.
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: Look at the in the logo of Mereth marks on
- 1:25:17Speaker 2: it as you can see. Isn't that amazing?
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:25:20Speaker 2: And this thing is how you open the caviar tins,
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: like this little popping poin opener. Isn't that cool?
- 1:25:30Speaker 3: Yea cool?
- 1:25:31Speaker 2: The actual caviar.
- 1:25:32Speaker 3: You noticed that it's like an M shape on the
- 1:25:35Speaker 3: tip and the little tag it's also in the yeah,
- 1:25:39Speaker 3: oh you're right.
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the caviar itself came in a refrigerated
- 1:25:47Speaker 2: pouch so that it wouldn't get cold upon you know, transporting.
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: Well, I didn't get the gifted caviar from Amy powers,
- 1:25:55Speaker 3: but I did get the gift of meeting her mother
- 1:25:57Speaker 3: and sister, who were.
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: Lovely, lovely, absolutely lovely.
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: And I'm meeting Amy again because I did meet her
- 1:26:04Speaker 3: in Chicago and she cracks me up.
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's great. So thanks, thanks again, you guys
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: for everything and showing up and doing everything you did.
- 1:26:13Speaker 2: Just to reminder, if you were looking for any of
- 1:26:17Speaker 2: the swag that, like, any of the merch that wasn't
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: there in person because I couldn't bring all the different
- 1:26:22Speaker 2: sizes and stuff like, they're up on my Printifi shop.
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: So if you wanted a Cabareamy sweatshirt, you can get
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: them in any color and any size on the Printofi shop.
- 1:26:31Speaker 2: And the coasters, the coasters. Everyone was looking for the coasters,
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: but I didn't have them there in person, so you
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: can get those all on the Prinifi shop. I can
- 1:26:41Speaker 2: post that on the Patreon. I'll post that link later.
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: And yeah, that's all wonderful. Thanks Cash, you got your
- 1:26:52Speaker 2: sweatshirt on now. Oh my god, thank you so much.
- 1:26:54Speaker 3: I just saw Steven. I sent you my love and
- 1:26:56Speaker 3: support and I felt it.
- 1:26:58Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. Even I did too, I
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: felt it too. Oh my god, Steven's like, I cried
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: all weekend but he couldn't go to Bravo con. I
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: know you'll, you know what, You'll get there. You'll get there,
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: don't worry.
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: It is really fun. But I got to say in
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: the moment, it's you watch Peacock, man. I mean, like
- 1:27:17Speaker 3: they were getting more people that were home watching the
- 1:27:20Speaker 3: Peacock stuff. I was like, you're finding out more than
- 1:27:22Speaker 3: I have, and I'm standing in the middle of it.
- 1:27:24Speaker 2: I know. It's it's fun to go like a day
- 1:27:27Speaker 2: and experience it, but you really do not need to
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: be there all three days for sure. If you don't
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: want to, like, you know, continue to you if that's
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: not your vibe and also your budget. You know. Yeah,
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: because now that they're doing the panels on Peacock, I
- 1:27:42Speaker 2: mean it's just so cool, like you really get to
- 1:27:44Speaker 2: experience it.
- 1:27:45Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's yeah, you can be in your home
- 1:27:50Speaker 3: and still be in the room where it happens. Thank you,
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: big you, You're welcome.
- 1:28:00Speaker 2: Well this was fun, you guys, Thanks all, thanks all,
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: thanks all to all, and to all. A good weekend. Yay, yay, okay,
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: Well we're gonna we're gonna head off now and play
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: the music and then we'll get moving. Thanks you guys,
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: bye for now.
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: By Drama Darling.
- 1:28:21Speaker 3: Terri says back to Hamilton, Yes, ma'am, Drama Darling always
- 1:28:26Speaker 3: and thank you Dana Chang. Thank you, Dana Chang.
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: Drama Darling