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Packers Training Camp Live - 7/29/26 - Hour 2 · The Huddle

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Speaker 1: It is day one of the twenty twenty six season
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Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers, and plays like the one
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Speaker 1: that Marlon Jones just made hopefully gonna be a part
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Speaker 1: of the regular season action. I'm Bill Schmid, Wayne Levy
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Speaker 1: voice the Green Bay Packers next to me, and it
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Speaker 1: was Marlon Jones with maybe one of the plays of
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Speaker 1: the day Wayne, a pick six that got the stands
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Speaker 1: blown up for a defensive play. Rarely that happens here
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Speaker 1: in training camp.
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Speaker 2: Marlon Jones, number forty six, rookie free agent out of Vanderbilt,
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Speaker 2: was not drafted when unsigned until the Packers called after
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Speaker 2: two players they intended to sign failed to pass their physicals.
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Speaker 2: Now with the story on Marlon Jones as he came
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Speaker 2: back last year returned to play in nine games last year.
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Speaker 2: He missed the previous season while battling stage three lymphoma
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Speaker 2: and was told he'd never play football again by the doctors.
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Speaker 2: Well that's not the case. He came back, played last
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Speaker 2: year at Vandy and now is trying to make the
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Speaker 2: green Bay Packers. Made a big play down here right
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Speaker 2: on the goal line. Beautiful break on the ball and
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Speaker 2: would have taken it all the way.
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Speaker 1: Would have taken it all the way, ran it all
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Speaker 1: the way down, and the reaction from the Packers defensive
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Speaker 1: sideline what was awesome to see. And when you're only
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Speaker 1: in the building and in the organization for a couple
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Speaker 1: of months, not everybody is gonna get that kind of reaction.
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Speaker 1: That story will draw some And the Packers have made
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Speaker 1: a living in the last two decades wayne finding undrafted
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Speaker 1: rookies that are gonna make the football team. I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying one play does it, but there's always a job
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Speaker 1: available here that you might not think is available come
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Speaker 1: the end of cutdowns.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the nature of the game itself. And you
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Speaker 2: don't know how these rosters are going to evolve. Who's
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Speaker 2: going to stay healthy, who isn't that kind of thing. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, Brian Goudakutz was talking this morning about roster building.
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Speaker 2: It's a year round activity and the teams constantly change.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what the Packers have now is probably not
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Speaker 2: what they're going to have going into the opener, and
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Speaker 2: by the week eight it could be a much different
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Speaker 2: looking team totally and either evolving or maybe they've lost
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Speaker 2: personnel injury that kind of thing. So it's a constant
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Speaker 2: and you know, you ride those waves practice.
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Speaker 1: Wrapping up here for day number one, a quick one
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Speaker 1: in and out with about an hour or so was
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Speaker 1: expected to go maybe a tick longer, but a good
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Speaker 1: one to end on and Wayne some more of the
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Speaker 1: highlights that we had here today as they break up
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Speaker 1: in the offensive defense separate was defensively Zaire Franklin, who
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Speaker 1: they trade Colby Wooden for in the offseason from the Colts.
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Speaker 1: Mentioned earlier in our number one. He's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: green dot guy. He's gonna call the defense and coordinate everything.
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Speaker 1: Makes a great break strips Marshawn Lloyd on a catch
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Speaker 1: out to the right, and forty four making splash plays
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Speaker 1: like that. They're gonna need somebody alongside Edrin Cooper to
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Speaker 1: hopefully unlock him. But a Zaire Franklin was a pro
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Speaker 1: bowler in his own right and it all pro at
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Speaker 1: one time.
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Speaker 2: He was All Pro two years ago. Didn't have quite
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Speaker 2: as good a season with Indianapolis last year, but then
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Speaker 2: you know again, and a lot of these things, well
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Speaker 2: they didn't have the great season last year, Well a
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Speaker 2: lot of that could have been. You know, this is football.
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Speaker 2: There are eleven guys out there with you and you know,
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Speaker 2: the people around you have to play well too for
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Speaker 2: you to reach your full potential, and maybe that didn't
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Speaker 2: happen in Indianapolis last year. They kind of struggled. But nonetheless,
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Speaker 2: I think he's a great addition to this football team here.
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Speaker 2: And you're exactly right, Billy, really quick practice here today
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Speaker 2: to get things underway.
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Speaker 1: We were expecting to have some more plays to be
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Speaker 1: able to discuss here into our number two. But when
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Speaker 1: we get to recap what we all saw and what
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Speaker 1: we heard in Day number one, and a couple other
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Speaker 1: guys that you ended up seeing a little bit more
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Speaker 1: of than you would have anticipated, Evan Williams in the
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Speaker 1: back end their safety spot. Whyane the last number of
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Speaker 1: years has felt like there has been one or both
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Speaker 1: of those jobs available. They solidified Xavier McKinney by signing
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Speaker 1: him in free agency a couple of years ago. I
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Speaker 1: don't know that on Day number three when they grabbed
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Speaker 1: Devin Williams in the fourth round, they could have thought
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Speaker 1: that they solidified it as much as they have because
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Speaker 1: it feels like you got a real player there, and
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Speaker 1: he had a couple of good plays here today as well.
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Speaker 2: One of those players on defense that I think can
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Speaker 2: really emerge and has a chance to be a star.
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Speaker 2: We've talked in a nauseum about Edgeran Cooper, but Evan
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Speaker 2: Williams is one of those guys. Javon Bullard. All he
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Speaker 2: has to do is start making turn of the takeaways
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Speaker 2: and that's the one component of his game that there's
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Speaker 2: room to grow. And he's another guy who could be
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Speaker 2: a star. Obviously they've got McKinney, you know, the cornerback situation,
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Speaker 2: Bears watching Lucas van Ness has to become a player.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying a superstar, but a player on that
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Speaker 2: defensive front. I think Devonte Wyatt's a guy who could
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Speaker 2: be one of those standout players, one of those blue
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Speaker 2: chip players if he can stay healthy and continue to play.
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Speaker 2: And obviously they have Michael Parsons, so they have potentially
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Speaker 2: and it is just the potential star power on all
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Speaker 2: three levels of this defense. But that star level has
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Speaker 2: to be reached.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he does. And Wayne, I think some people think
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Speaker 1: it's a little bit cliche and obvious, but I think
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Speaker 1: at each level you need a Pro Bowl, All Pro
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Speaker 1: caliber player. Does that guy have to make it each
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Speaker 1: and every year for you to be able to win. No,
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Speaker 1: but teams need to also respect that guy when you're
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Speaker 1: game planning, And I think that's another part of it.
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Speaker 1: Where a name of Zaire Franklin, there have been a
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Speaker 1: lot offensive coordinators that have called plays knowing he's in
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Speaker 1: the middle of defenses and give him a certain level
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Speaker 1: of respect. I think that's another part of it. It's
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Speaker 1: not only just how you play on a day in
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Speaker 1: and day out basis, but the kind of attention you
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Speaker 1: garner in the week leading up to the game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. And that's what a blue chip
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Speaker 2: player is. He garners attention in the preparation of the
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Speaker 2: game plan by the opponent. So this is a team
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Speaker 2: that has a lot of players that are kind of
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Speaker 2: on the cusp pier that if they pan out, this
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Speaker 2: team can go places. And the only way we're going
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Speaker 2: to find out starts in September, not down here. We'll
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Speaker 2: see where guys make the roster. The training camp is
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Speaker 2: about making the roster, and on the roster is set,
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Speaker 2: then the team really comes together. Now. Is there some
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Speaker 2: team building going on at training camp? Of course there is,
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Speaker 2: but really the unit becomes a team when the roster
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Speaker 2: is set, the fifty three man roster is set. That's
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Speaker 2: when they come together and wait, as you.
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Speaker 1: Look at it. We'll talk about that beginning of the schedule,
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Speaker 1: because I think it plays out about as well as
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Speaker 1: it could for the Packers with the injuries that they
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Speaker 1: have and the players that they're going to be missing
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Speaker 1: early on. You go to Minnesota and you go to
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Speaker 1: the New York Jets. The Vikings are one of the
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Speaker 1: more fascinating squads in twenty twenty six because they could
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Speaker 1: go one of two ways. They could quickly I think,
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Speaker 1: ascend back to one of the contenders in the NFC.
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Speaker 1: With Kyler Murray. They get I mean adequate quarterback play
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Speaker 1: I think is putting it fairly above average quarterback play.
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Speaker 1: They could be downright scary because they have still some
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Speaker 1: of the better skill position players in the league in
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Speaker 1: the division. That's one game where you'll hear a lot
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Speaker 1: of unscouted look conversation. I assume on the grass unscouted looks.
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Speaker 1: Some of those those classics will get brought back. But
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Speaker 1: it's real when you talk about the Vikings, what you're
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Speaker 1: gonna see their week one.
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Speaker 2: You know, Billy and people kind of get annoyed at
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Speaker 2: me for saying this, but they were one player away
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Speaker 2: from probably blowing over blowing open the division last year.
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Speaker 2: I mean they were one player away from maybe winning
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Speaker 2: fourteen or fifteen games, and what won the division? I
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Speaker 2: think eleven wins with the Bears. They were that good
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Speaker 2: around them and they are so well coached on both
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Speaker 2: sides of the football and even special teams. But they
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Speaker 2: have you're right, the skilled people around the quarterback position.
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Speaker 2: What they didn't have was the quarterback. Yeah, can Kyler
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Speaker 2: Murray give them that? You know, he can do a
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Speaker 2: lot of things. He could probably put up some really
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Speaker 2: good numbers. But the problem with Kyler Murray has always
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Speaker 2: been he gets you to a certain point and then
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Speaker 2: he gets you beat.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that was That's fine.
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Speaker 2: He's no longer in Arizona, boys and girls, let me
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Speaker 2: tell that's why. And so, you know, this will be
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Speaker 2: interesting to see if he emerges from that quarterback battle.
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Speaker 2: We don't know. Maybe it'll be JJ McCarthy. And if
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Speaker 2: it is, Jj will be a much different player than
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Speaker 2: he was a year ago. Otherwise he won't emerge.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, otherwise he won't win the job. I heard your
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Speaker 1: your co cohort Paul Allen say at one time about
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Now, before Kyler Murray was the quarterback of
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Speaker 1: the Viking, so maybe it's a much different tone that
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Speaker 1: he has with it. But he said, Kyler throws punts,
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Speaker 1: and you see it every once in a while, there's
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Speaker 1: a ball that goes way up in the air that
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Speaker 1: is a well, either my guy's gonna come down with
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Speaker 1: it or your guy's gonna come down with it. It's gonna
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Speaker 1: get caught at some point, and it's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: problem for one of us. But there's there's been that
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Speaker 1: moment in a game for him pretty much his entire career. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and we'll see if Kevin O'Connell can kind of coach
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Speaker 1: that out of him. But I mean two years ago
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Speaker 1: they had Sam Darnold and they had sixty minutes to
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Speaker 1: decide if they were the number one overall seed, and
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Speaker 1: eight days later they knew they didn't want Sam Donald. Again,
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Speaker 1: it's a crazy turnaround there.
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Speaker 2: And then Sam Donald goes to Seattle wins the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: So go figure, folks, we're just speculating on what might happen. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: who knows what's going to happen. That's the thing. We
9:18
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen here, but they started
9:22
Speaker 2: training camp and they're seeing players out there and it's great.
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Speaker 2: And you know, as they get a little healthier, get
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Speaker 2: some of the guys back out there. And none of
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Speaker 2: these injuries that they've got guys on the pup list
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Speaker 2: for our injuries that I at least I know of
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Speaker 2: that are going to keep somebody out for the season, right,
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Speaker 2: Nothing like that. These guys will get. They'll get filtered
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Speaker 2: into camp as we go along here.
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Speaker 1: And the Micah Parsons injury, the one that everybody's still
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Speaker 1: talking about, he'll miss most likely at least the first
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Speaker 1: four games they'll have to get. It'll be on pup
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Speaker 1: if he reaches the start of the season. Then missed
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Speaker 1: the first four games and potentially a little bit more
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Speaker 1: there as well. Then you're home against the Falcons at
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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers before that five game against the Bears where
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Speaker 1: everyone kind of had circled where you'd return. Obviously there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of juice for that Bears Packers
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Speaker 1: game probably has more juice now than it has and
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Speaker 1: I couldn't even remember one outside of the playoff game
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Speaker 1: A year ago because both teams are expecting to take
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Speaker 1: another leap forward. I know there's some regression police out
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Speaker 1: there with the Chicago Bears. I'm looking at their producer
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Speaker 1: arm and sorry and who believes they're destined for a
10:27
Speaker 1: down cycle. But those are gonna be tough, competitive games,
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Speaker 1: and the physicality, Wayne is one that you just can't
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Speaker 1: really forget about in January, because that's where that game
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Speaker 1: really flipped in the sound.
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Speaker 2: I thought so on the second half, and give them
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Speaker 2: a lot of credit. Dennis Allen, the defensive coordinator, made
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Speaker 2: some adjustments, started bringing pressure and the Packers offensive line
10:46
Speaker 2: wasn't able to quite respond to that. Although again, you know,
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Speaker 2: the Bears closed in and remember that touchdown passed to
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Speaker 2: Golden gave the Packers which seemed like another comfortable league,
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Speaker 2: but the defense wasn't able to hold up down the
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Speaker 2: stretch and that was a big part of it. But
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Speaker 2: still despite all that, they're driving late in the ballgame.
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Speaker 2: The Packers I'm talking about, they're in Chicago territory. There's
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Speaker 2: that pass to Jade and Reid that Jay Reid will
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Speaker 2: tell you probably probably nightmared about that all the offseason.
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Speaker 2: He dropped it. They complete that pass. Maybe they score
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Speaker 2: on that play. If not, they probably score right after
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Speaker 2: and they win the ball game. And the whole narrative.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I see all these publications that rank Caleb
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Speaker 2: Williams ahead of Jordan Love and all this other stuff.
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Speaker 2: The whole thing flips. If the Packers win that game.
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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, if Romeo Dobbs catches an on side
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Speaker 2: kick in the regular season game, totally, the Packers probably
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Speaker 2: host that playoff game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Wayne, maybe even Morgan, maybe you don't end
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Speaker 1: up losing the next week in the fashion you did.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: That was the Baltimore game where it almost felt like
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Speaker 1: they got run off the field by Derrick Henry and
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Speaker 1: the Falcons or and the Ravens. Pardon me, it just
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Speaker 1: it catches up in not being able to slow that
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Speaker 1: negative momentum the avalanche against you. That's where I think
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Speaker 1: the maturity of a football team will really show up
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Speaker 1: and needs to with this one. Looking at the rest
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Speaker 1: of the division, and this training camp Live is presented
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Speaker 1: Right now, the Lions are the odds on favorite to
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Speaker 1: win the division. Does that surprise you at all win.
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Speaker 2: No, because they have an excellent roster still. Now they've
12:24
Speaker 2: lost some pieces. Their offensive line isn't quite what it was,
12:27
Speaker 2: but they're still They still have those skilled position people
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Speaker 2: on offense. Jared Goff, No one talks about him. All
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Speaker 2: he does is put up gaudy numbers. I mean they're gaudy.
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Speaker 2: He's been tremendous for them. I still think they're well coached.
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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, He's gonna get that offense straightened out. Jamiir
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Speaker 2: Gibbs gives them a dimension that not many teams have.
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Speaker 2: Fair you know, I think they are a football team. No,
12:51
Speaker 2: but he's talking about because they kind of struggled with
12:53
Speaker 2: the injuries last year. But here's the thing, what makes
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Speaker 2: you think the Detroit Lions is going to be healthy?
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Speaker 2: Have they been healthy the last years? No, they have.
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Speaker 2: And I will go to my grave saying this. Playing
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Speaker 2: on that surface in Detroit, that's treacherous.
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Speaker 1: That's a problem.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a problem a lot of teams. I know,
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Speaker 2: every time the Packers go in there, they lose somebody
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Speaker 2: of significance on that field, and the Lions lose a
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Speaker 2: lot of players over the year years, the last two
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Speaker 2: years especially so it'll be interesting to see. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I can understand that. I can see that. With the Bears.
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Speaker 2: What would worry me is they won a lot of
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Speaker 2: games late, you know, down the stretch. Give the quarterback
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Speaker 2: all the credit in the world. And you know he's
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Speaker 2: a big play quarterback. You know, quarter one through quarter three.
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams can be pretty pedestrian. Yeah, miss a lot
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Speaker 2: of throws, but boy, in that fourth quarter, when the
13:47
Speaker 2: game's on the line, he makes plays. There's something to
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Speaker 2: be said for that. That's a great trait to have.
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Speaker 2: But they also led the universe in takeaways. Sure, and
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Speaker 2: we know this, Billy, I know football people cringe at this.
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Speaker 2: You can coach takeaways all you want. Oh the Peter
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Speaker 2: Tillman thing. And what was the hew and cry here
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Speaker 2: a year ago, Baul King, We're gonna take the ball away, King, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's buy a fumble. For the first six weeks of
14:12
Speaker 2: the season, of the regular season, takeaways, turnovers are the
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Speaker 2: residue of luck, as much as they are as planning.
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Speaker 2: Some years get a lot, some years don't. Packers at
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Speaker 2: thirty one takeaways in Jeff Affley's first year as defensive coordinator,
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Speaker 2: everyone had it all. He did a tremendous job. He's
14:29
Speaker 2: on the hot hot wire to be a head coach. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the next year they had fourteen. If the Bears who
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Speaker 2: had thirty eight to believe last year thirty eight takeaways,
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Speaker 2: if they get half that many this year, that'll be
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Speaker 2: a lot.
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Speaker 1: That's a huge number for him, no doubt, because they
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Speaker 1: not only just lose a significant amount of them and
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Speaker 1: the players that walk out the door. But ask Xavier
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Speaker 1: McKinney how sticky that football is a year after you
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Speaker 1: get eight of them?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: Like it is a it's a totally different game. And
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Speaker 1: you can believe that you have them locked in, but
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Speaker 1: you can't necessarily count on that on a weekend and
15:03
Speaker 1: week out basis. And when that's their way that you
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Speaker 1: play defense, that's gonna be a tough way to make
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Speaker 1: a living in the NFL. And I think is we've
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Speaker 1: seen and discussed a couple of times here. Packers are
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Speaker 1: gonna have just as good of a chance as anybody
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Speaker 1: else in this division to not only make significant noise,
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Speaker 1: but be able to win a lot of these divisional games.
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Speaker 1: They haven't won the division since twenty twenty one, and
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Speaker 1: I know that this is not the that's not a benchmark,
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Speaker 1: but that's the first checkpoint to get to here in
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty sixth season is hosting a playoff game
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Speaker 1: and winning the division again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yet that playoff game. Hosting that playoff game
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Speaker 2: is so important. I know the Packers have had some
15:41
Speaker 2: great teams, and I think twenty twenty one was maybe
15:43
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur's best team. They had it all going for him,
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Speaker 2: They had the buy, they were the number one seed,
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Speaker 2: They host a playoff game, and they lose on special
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Speaker 2: teams plays to San Francisco that year, and that was
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Speaker 2: kind of the beginning of the end of the Aaron
15:56
Speaker 2: Rodgers era in Green Bay. That was it.
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Speaker 1: We have a talking text line message from Justin and Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: Is Nixon not practicing he's unhappy with his contract and
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Speaker 1: using his hammy as an excuse. Well, that only Kishon
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Speaker 1: Nixon could be able to divulge. I don't necessarily know
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Speaker 1: that that's the case. I do know that he wanted
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Speaker 1: a new contract in the off season, uh, and that
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Speaker 1: adjustment there has not been an adjustment to it. I
16:20
Speaker 1: also don't know that it would be exactly the hill
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Speaker 1: that I would die on knowing that I got a
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Speaker 1: lot of opportunities. I believe he's hurt. I believe that
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Speaker 1: there's a hamstring injury. We'll allow somebody to prove us
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Speaker 1: the other way. But for Nixon in particular, I don't
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Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, you want to make as much money
16:37
Speaker 1: as possible. You just want to make sure that you're
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Speaker 1: making as many plays as possible, and you're not just
16:40
Speaker 1: gonna willingly give up chances to be on the ground.
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Speaker 2: I would think if they were, he and his agent
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Speaker 2: were gonna hold out, they would have done it during
16:47
Speaker 2: OTA's in mini camp, wouldn't they Maybe not many camp
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Speaker 2: because you can get fined. But Ota is ever why
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Speaker 2: was he here for all the OTAs? I think Keishaan's
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Speaker 2: gonna play, and I think he'll I think he'll be
16:59
Speaker 2: fine whether he gets a contractor not. He'll go out
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Speaker 2: and you know, the mentality is a great mentality. That kid,
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Speaker 2: he's his mentality would be well, help show these guys,
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Speaker 2: by the way, I'm gonna have a great year. I'm
17:11
Speaker 2: gonna play like a number one cornerback and they won't
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Speaker 2: be able to sign me. Well yeah, I mean, if
17:16
Speaker 2: he does that, I think the packers would be pretty happy,
17:18
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be. Oh, he's like a number one cornerback.
17:21
Speaker 1: Oh, they won't be able to contain the excitement if
17:25
Speaker 1: he doesn't shows them. There's a lot of variables, but
17:28
Speaker 1: the one is the improvement from within. They've got a
17:32
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity for improvement from within, and that secondary
17:35
Speaker 1: would be one of the biggest spots here for training camp,
17:38
Speaker 1: live practice number one, wrapping up and everybody now saying
17:43
Speaker 1: hello to the family and then rolling over onto the
17:46
Speaker 1: other side for the first day of film. There's always
17:49
Speaker 1: a We mentioned Ted Thompson Dame a couple of times here. Wayne,
17:53
Speaker 1: there's always a hope that nobody gets dinged here today
17:55
Speaker 1: on day number one, the first couple of days offensive
17:58
Speaker 1: line wise, last year, it couldn't have started worse for
18:01
Speaker 1: Aaron Banks. He first day in pads ends up with
18:03
Speaker 1: a back injury. Yeah, there's there's room to improve on that.
18:08
Speaker 1: But I go back to something you said that just
18:10
Speaker 1: continues to wring in my mind. You never get healthier
18:13
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It is not It's not a place
18:16
Speaker 1: that you necessarily get healthier and more durable. Is any
18:22
Speaker 1: bit of that coached or prepared for or some of
18:25
Speaker 1: it just dumb luck that rolls through it in an
18:27
Speaker 1: NFL season. I know people don't like using the word luck,
18:30
Speaker 1: I know in pro sports, but I hate to break
18:32
Speaker 1: it to them. It's a huge part of it.
18:33
Speaker 2: It's a huge part of it. It's it's in injuries
18:35
Speaker 2: are luck, okay? Because these guys, folks, it's not like
18:38
Speaker 2: these guys don't come in in condition, all right. The
18:41
Speaker 2: only thing a player can do is get his body
18:43
Speaker 2: right for what he's about to face. That's all a
18:45
Speaker 2: player can do in any pro sport. And these guys
18:48
Speaker 2: do that. There's nobody who shows up here out of shape,
18:51
Speaker 2: do they? Some guys they want to get in better shape, maybe,
18:54
Speaker 2: but everybody's in shape to do this, and so injuries
18:58
Speaker 2: a lot of it's luck. And then I've always believed this, Billy,
19:02
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't blame players for injuries, but
19:05
Speaker 2: there are some guys who, no matter how well they're built,
19:09
Speaker 2: how diligent they are at their craft and getting their
19:12
Speaker 2: bodies ready, did injuries happen? And they just seem to
19:16
Speaker 2: happen to certain guys often more and more and more,
19:20
Speaker 2: And you're exactly right, the more you play in the NFL,
19:23
Speaker 2: you don't get healthier. You know, you get it's a
19:26
Speaker 2: one hundred percent injury business. You know. That's why I
19:29
Speaker 2: hate to see teams bring in draft players or bring
19:31
Speaker 2: in players. This guy's banged up in college and so yeah,
19:35
Speaker 2: but this is not a SPA. We're bringing him into here. Okay,
19:39
Speaker 2: you know he's banged up in college. What do you
19:41
Speaker 2: think is going to be in the NFL.
19:42
Speaker 1: Seventeen games last night, check gotna be harder to play
19:45
Speaker 1: than twelve. If you can't make it through that schedule. Yeah,
19:48
Speaker 1: it's a difficult spot because yet you have so many options,
19:52
Speaker 1: but you need to be able to whittle it down.
19:54
Speaker 1: More importantly, you need your best players to be available.
19:57
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the quantity of injuries. It was the
19:59
Speaker 1: quality of the injuries that the Packers ended up suffering
20:02
Speaker 1: a year ago. One guy that was dinged up a
20:04
Speaker 1: year ago. We saw me a couple of plays here,
20:06
Speaker 1: Christian Watson newly minted with that contract, big year for
20:10
Speaker 1: number nine because if he produces the way when you
20:13
Speaker 1: saw at the back end of the year, this is
20:16
Speaker 1: when number nine becomes the number one receiver. Yeah, it
20:18
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more true. And I'm glad though that
20:22
Speaker 1: we're not having the conversation this year of well, you
20:24
Speaker 1: don't need a number one receiver. They now have identified
20:26
Speaker 1: their number one receiver. Now they need him to perform
20:29
Speaker 1: like a number one.
20:29
Speaker 2: Receiver exactly exactly. I think Matthew Golden has a wealth
20:33
Speaker 2: of talent. He can be like their Jordan Addison at
20:36
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison to Jefferson up in Minnesota. I mean, that's
20:40
Speaker 2: what they're hoping these guys can be. And then you've
20:43
Speaker 2: got Jayden Reed and he's led the league the team
20:46
Speaker 2: in receptions in his first two years in the league
20:48
Speaker 2: and the only reason probably didn't last year was because
20:50
Speaker 2: he was injured most of the year. But so they've
20:54
Speaker 2: got people, They've got skilled people. I'm not worried about
20:57
Speaker 2: that at all. If the offensive line holds up and
21:00
Speaker 2: it comes together, which I think it will, this offense
21:02
Speaker 2: is going to be fine, Billy. The question will be
21:05
Speaker 2: on defense. Yeah, you know, how do you hold up there?
21:07
Speaker 2: Can you stop the run? Can you put pressure on
21:09
Speaker 2: the quarterback? And can you cover? Big question? Can you cover?
21:14
Speaker 1: And when the money's on the table, can you cover?
21:16
Speaker 2: Because that's it.
21:17
Speaker 1: When the money's on the table in the fourth quarter?
21:20
Speaker 1: Are you able to close out these games? Will we
21:21
Speaker 1: close out Day number one here from Packers Practice, will
21:24
Speaker 1: wrap things up here on the other side, well here
21:26
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more from Brian Goodakunz as well.
21:28
Speaker 1: Early end to practice number one, but the start of
21:31
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21:36
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21:51
Speaker 1: wrapped up here from Raynichki Field. A couple of big
21:55
Speaker 1: plays being made, Marlon Jones maybe the biggest day rookie
21:59
Speaker 1: from Vanderbilt, undrafted rookie Zaire Franklin stripping Marshawn Lloyd near
22:05
Speaker 1: the goal line. And as we find Ziggy Smalls on
22:08
Speaker 1: Twitter one, Zayre Franklin. He is a very interesting piece
22:11
Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers here in twenty twenty six.
22:14
Speaker 1: Gonna be the green dot guy for the defense, Gonna
22:16
Speaker 1: be coordinating a lot of that lining up next to
22:19
Speaker 1: Edrin Cooper, who Wayne last year. All we were doing
22:22
Speaker 1: these camp practices, you could tell they were building the
22:25
Speaker 1: team and the defense seemingly for him to be an
22:29
Speaker 1: All Pro. I think somewhere he stopped at really good player.
22:31
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see, hopefully how forty four can maybe
22:34
Speaker 1: bring some more of that out of him.
22:35
Speaker 2: And I think, you know a lot of it. Billy
22:37
Speaker 2: will be moving him up toward the line of scrimmage,
22:41
Speaker 2: blitzing him from the inside, and maybe even moving him around,
22:45
Speaker 2: you know, so he's inside on one play, maybe he's
22:46
Speaker 2: outside of another play, that kind of thing. But I
22:49
Speaker 2: think you're gonna have to see him deployed more as
22:52
Speaker 2: a rusher for him to have enough splash plays to
22:56
Speaker 2: become recognized as a Pro Bowl, All Pro.
23:00
Speaker 1: Big time. And I think they're going to give him
23:02
Speaker 1: some more of those opportunities, not not utilizing just Buddha
23:05
Speaker 1: Baker as the only example, but you saw some guys
23:07
Speaker 1: in Arizona when Jonathan Gannon sure wasn't calling the defense.
23:11
Speaker 1: It's his defense that he built there with the Cardinals
23:14
Speaker 1: really being a multiple scheme, and there was some buzz
23:19
Speaker 1: and catchphrases caught in the hiring process Wayne when he
23:23
Speaker 1: said he doesn't have a scheme. He wants to be
23:26
Speaker 1: malleable to his players. I have some pretty impressive way
23:29
Speaker 1: of looking at it, because you do have to. This
23:31
Speaker 1: game is about putting your players in the best positions.
23:34
Speaker 1: And they got a lot of pieces, but you gotta
23:36
Speaker 1: have the right maestro to call upon the right.
23:38
Speaker 2: Notes, no doubt about that. But coaching is all about
23:42
Speaker 2: putting people in a position to win. They're at their
23:46
Speaker 2: position as a team, putting people in a position to win.
23:50
Speaker 2: That's what it's all about with coaching in this league,
23:53
Speaker 2: and I think on any level. But uh, that's something
23:57
Speaker 2: that again we're going to see with edgrink Hoop. I'm
24:00
Speaker 2: just fascinated to see how they're going to use him,
24:03
Speaker 2: if he will be involved more as a brusher than
24:06
Speaker 2: a coverage linebacker. You know. The other thing about Franklin
24:13
Speaker 2: is he's not a huge guy. He's six feet two
24:16
Speaker 2: thirty five. I was watching him walking up the sideline.
24:20
Speaker 2: Xavier McKinney looks a little taller than him. Yeah, right,
24:25
Speaker 2: But Zahir Franklin's been around this league. He knows this
24:28
Speaker 2: how to make plays. I think this is a guy
24:31
Speaker 2: who's going to be a subtle key to what they
24:33
Speaker 2: do defensively, and.
24:34
Speaker 1: He's stout inside that interior, very excited to see how
24:38
Speaker 1: this defense kind of rounds into form. We'll see it
24:41
Speaker 1: on the grass in a training camp or a preseason game,
24:44
Speaker 1: I should say, one week from Thursday, August thirteenth, as
24:48
Speaker 1: they kick off the preseason at the Pittsburgh Steelers, at
24:51
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos on the twenty first, and then here
24:54
Speaker 1: in Green Bay on the twenty eighth of Friday night
24:57
Speaker 1: against the Arizona Cardinals. They'll have a joint practice earlier
25:00
Speaker 1: on that week with the Cardinals. Wayne Brian Goodokuz made
25:04
Speaker 1: mention of it. We're gonna hear Brian Goodocunc coming up
25:06
Speaker 1: in about ten minutes here on Training Camp Live talking
25:08
Speaker 1: about kind of needing and wanting to see some players
25:12
Speaker 1: in the preseason. It feels like that Broncos game might
25:16
Speaker 1: be circled. They went out there for a joint practice
25:18
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, got some good work, and
25:21
Speaker 1: then had a preseason game there a couple of days later.
25:24
Speaker 1: How difficult is it now with the joint practices kind
25:28
Speaker 1: of overtaking it, But there's nothing like going out on
25:31
Speaker 1: a game field.
25:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I agree, and I think, you know, the
25:34
Speaker 2: joint practices can certainly supplement what you want to get,
25:39
Speaker 2: the work you want to get for your veterans and
25:40
Speaker 2: the people who are going to start the season. Why, well,
25:44
Speaker 2: because it's a little more controlled circumstance. Now you work
25:48
Speaker 2: against the other team's best stuff that you're not going
25:50
Speaker 2: to see in a preseason game. Okay, preseason games from
25:53
Speaker 2: a play calling standpoint, from a strategical standpoint are very vanilla.
25:58
Speaker 2: These practices you get a chance to see a little
26:01
Speaker 2: bit more of what that other team may run, as
26:04
Speaker 2: long as you're not going to play that team in
26:06
Speaker 2: the regular right. Yes, no, we had one of those
26:08
Speaker 2: and that didn't go well with a rod. But and
26:11
Speaker 2: you know, I really think that still, like you said,
26:15
Speaker 2: you need to get these guys out there for a
26:17
Speaker 2: series or two just to get them to go through
26:21
Speaker 2: it almost like a dress rehearsal, you know, for the
26:23
Speaker 2: for the regular season, but also just from a conditioning standpoint,
26:27
Speaker 2: because the hitting is different in a game.
26:30
Speaker 1: I appreciate the comments that we've gotten on YouTube and
26:32
Speaker 1: X Kurt said, love the insight. Also, my dad loves
26:35
Speaker 1: Billy's hat. Well, thank you. I appreciate it.
26:37
Speaker 2: I run you got there in that hat. Run power
26:39
Speaker 2: off RPOs.
26:41
Speaker 1: People are always talking about these RPOs in football, Wane.
26:44
Speaker 1: Let's get the pass up out of there and let's
26:46
Speaker 1: focus on running the football north and south and maybe
26:49
Speaker 1: putting some people on there on their backs.
26:51
Speaker 2: You know. And like I said, if you were running
26:53
Speaker 2: the Packers, they wouldn't be running the football twenty eight
26:56
Speaker 2: point nine times per game. It'd be up around thirty
26:58
Speaker 2: two to thirty three. With you. You're not going to
27:00
Speaker 2: be throwing more on Jordan Love's play. You're gonna be
27:03
Speaker 2: taking more in line and running that power.
27:07
Speaker 1: All due respect to Jordan Love in the growing family,
27:10
Speaker 1: your services are going to be needed. But I don't
27:12
Speaker 1: even Shrunky, We're gonna be running.
27:15
Speaker 2: We're running the ball.
27:16
Speaker 1: The NFL ran the ball a ton over the last
27:18
Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah, you've seen it change, and Wayne,
27:21
Speaker 1: I'm we say, you know, you're excited to see how
27:23
Speaker 1: this trend goes that this that, and third, the physicality
27:27
Speaker 1: being brought back into the game and the running aspect
27:31
Speaker 1: of the game being so important. I think that one's
27:33
Speaker 1: kind of here to stay, at least for the next
27:34
Speaker 1: couple of years.
27:35
Speaker 2: I agree, Billy. And why well, because in February, in
27:38
Speaker 2: January and February, when you need to be physical and
27:41
Speaker 2: you need to run the ball in a playoff game.
27:44
Speaker 2: That's why I think we're seeing more of an emphasis
27:47
Speaker 2: now throughout the regular season. And we're also seeing running
27:49
Speaker 2: backs starting to get drafted in the first round again.
27:52
Speaker 2: And of course Jeremiah Love right out of Notre Dame
27:55
Speaker 2: third overall pick of the draft by Arizona. He's probably
27:58
Speaker 2: gonna be the biggest difference this draft.
28:00
Speaker 1: And walks in as one of the highest paid running
28:03
Speaker 1: backs in football.
28:04
Speaker 2: In football, I would be a fifty two million guaranteed
28:06
Speaker 2: based on where his position or where he was drafted,
28:09
Speaker 2: something like that.
28:10
Speaker 1: And the part that might be the craziest thing is Wayne.
28:13
Speaker 1: I heard him say, you know I got that big
28:15
Speaker 1: contract in the NFL. I don't even have to touch that.
28:17
Speaker 1: I mean nil money. I'm letting off my nil money
28:20
Speaker 1: to the point where i gonna put the NFL money
28:21
Speaker 1: right there in the bank. What a different world these
28:24
Speaker 1: guys are playing in. Chad Billy and Wayne Packers legends,
28:27
Speaker 1: one of those Wayne Larrvie Packer's legend, guy that just
28:29
Speaker 1: talks to you on post games and hopefully makes games
28:32
Speaker 1: a little bit more enjoyable post game for you are
28:36
Speaker 1: celebrating games after.
28:37
Speaker 2: You are therapeutic for all of us, Billy after these games,
28:40
Speaker 2: bringing some reason to the chaos that we just saw
28:43
Speaker 2: that afternoon.
28:44
Speaker 1: The funniest thing is, Wayne, it's almost more therapeutic for me,
28:47
Speaker 1: and probably even better for my wife because then she
28:48
Speaker 1: doesn't have to listen to me three and a half
28:51
Speaker 1: hours after.
28:52
Speaker 2: We will be.
28:52
Speaker 1: Back coming up tomorrow for probably public practice number two.
28:56
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear some Brian Gudocus coming up here on
28:58
Speaker 1: the other side here as we app up day number
29:00
Speaker 1: one of training camp LIE presented by the Pottawatamie Sportsbook.
29:03
Speaker 1: They wrapped up practice a little bit earlier. We're potentially
29:06
Speaker 1: gonna get kicked out here of rayn Ichki Field, but
29:09
Speaker 1: it is it's day one of the start to the build, Wayne,
29:13
Speaker 1: what's the number one thing for tomorrow? Just availability and
29:17
Speaker 1: nobody popping up on Matt Lafleur's injury list.
29:20
Speaker 2: I would think, so yeah, And I can't imagine I
29:21
Speaker 2: didn't see anyone get shaken up here today, so they
29:24
Speaker 2: should be clean. And maybe you get a guy or
29:26
Speaker 2: two back off the pup list, who knows.
29:27
Speaker 1: Who knows, and maybe even a news of some contracts.
29:30
Speaker 1: Will find those out, And I do anticipate a young
29:33
Speaker 1: man that was being rather active, really sweaty after we're
29:37
Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about the rehab group, but just no.
29:39
Speaker 1: Number eighty five looks like he's ready to roll. It
29:41
Speaker 1: looks like number eighty five I was excited to come
29:43
Speaker 1: off that pup list. I watched him squatting six plates
29:47
Speaker 1: on Instagram the other night, Wayne, I didn't even know
29:50
Speaker 1: you could fit six forty five pound plates on each
29:53
Speaker 1: side of the bar. Tucker Craft ready to go most
29:57
Speaker 1: what was that, arman? No, that was at Old Country Buffet.
30:03
Speaker 1: I'll put I'll put those plates, six plates back together. Yeah,
30:05
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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, I wouldn't. I think I'd like to have
31:04
Speaker 4: enough flexibility to leave leave the door open, but that
31:06
Speaker 4: would be unlikely just from a timing perspective. We've invested
31:10
Speaker 4: a lot in him, so I think we want to
31:11
Speaker 4: make sure that you know he's he's ready to go
31:13
Speaker 4: before we even think about putting him out there. Right.
31:16
Speaker 5: Unusual to get in any extensions during the officer.
31:22
Speaker 4: A lot of times you watched free agency. Yeah, there circumstances. Yeah, Tom,
31:29
Speaker 4: I think that's a good question. I think you guys
31:30
Speaker 4: kind of probably. You know, over the last year and
31:32
Speaker 4: a half or so, you know, we had some pretty
31:35
Speaker 4: good draft classes in there where a lot of these
31:37
Speaker 4: guys really produced, and we had to make some decisions,
31:39
Speaker 4: and as we did that, I think we decided, you know, obviously,
31:41
Speaker 4: with the decisions we made, we wanted to lock these
31:43
Speaker 4: guys up early and let these guys grow together, particularly
31:46
Speaker 4: you know, on the offensive side of the ball, with
31:47
Speaker 4: Christian and Jaden obviously Jordan. Hopefully we can get Tucker done.
31:53
Speaker 4: You know, Matthew's going to be here. He's under contract
31:54
Speaker 4: obviously for a few years. So if those guys can
31:56
Speaker 4: grow together, we think that's a really positive thing, the
31:58
Speaker 4: continuity of that. So I think we kind of went
32:02
Speaker 4: down the road this summer thinking this was what we
32:05
Speaker 4: wanted to do. You never know how that's going to go.
32:07
Speaker 4: And certainly I think when you when you do it
32:09
Speaker 4: a year early, that puts a little bit of risk
32:11
Speaker 4: on the club, you know, and if you play it
32:13
Speaker 4: out to put it a little bit risk on the player.
32:15
Speaker 4: So I think, you know, but I think all these
32:17
Speaker 4: deals were were were good deals for both Specifically, what
32:23
Speaker 4: did you see from him last year especially kind of
32:27
Speaker 4: moved into that. Yeah, sure, I think it wanted quite frankly,
32:29
Speaker 4: every time we've given him opportunities and snatch he's produced,
32:31
Speaker 4: particularly as a pass rusher, and I think he really
32:34
Speaker 4: grew as run defender since he's been here. Obviously he's
32:38
Speaker 4: had some health things where he hasn't been healthy as
32:40
Speaker 4: much as we would have liked, but when he's been
32:41
Speaker 4: in there, he's been very, very impactful. He was on
32:43
Speaker 4: a fifth year option with something we wanted to do.
32:46
Speaker 4: We wanted to extend him. It helps our cap a
32:48
Speaker 4: little bit too by doing that, so you know, again,
32:52
Speaker 4: that was something I think coming out of even even
32:54
Speaker 4: with the injury, coming out of the season last year,
32:56
Speaker 4: we felt we were going to do you the roster
33:00
Speaker 4: in the next.
33:00
Speaker 2: Month and determine some of those final roster spots.
33:03
Speaker 5: Besides what they put on film that there are other
33:05
Speaker 5: aspects that you're.
33:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and Matt preaches this to them and
33:10
Speaker 4: it's true, but ez an them all the time. You know,
33:12
Speaker 4: how they how they handle things, how they're their preparation,
33:15
Speaker 4: how they handle themselves as teammates. Again, well, their production
33:19
Speaker 4: on the field as what matters most. Right, they could
33:21
Speaker 4: be able to play the game and help us win.
33:23
Speaker 4: But but eyes around them all the time, you know,
33:25
Speaker 4: and how they fit into our culture with the long
33:29
Speaker 4: term possibilities. For those players that are that are competing
33:33
Speaker 4: for a roster spot for the first time, all that
33:35
Speaker 4: you know comes into play. But at the end of
33:37
Speaker 4: the day, everybody gets different opportunities, and you got to
33:40
Speaker 4: make the most of the opportunities that you have, excited
33:43
Speaker 4: as you did years ago, just as excited as you
33:48
Speaker 4: did all of your today. Probably sometimes. But I mean,
33:55
Speaker 4: I think those of us that are fortunate enough to
33:58
Speaker 4: work in this building, uh, in this profession, I mean
34:01
Speaker 4: it really it's always been a blessing for me. I'm
34:04
Speaker 4: not good very much else. I think I could bartend
34:07
Speaker 4: a little bit when I was in college, and this right,
34:09
Speaker 4: so I love it. I love the scouting aspect of
34:12
Speaker 4: the team building part of it. Yeah, I really do
34:15
Speaker 4: like the training camp, you know, process and watching guys
34:19
Speaker 4: go through these days and the ups and downs of it.
34:23
Speaker 4: And so yeah, this is this is every I think
34:26
Speaker 4: across the league. Everybody's really energized right now. It's a
34:29
Speaker 4: brand new year. So no matter what happened last year,
34:32
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's it's different, and you're everybody's excited
34:35
Speaker 4: about what what they have ahead of them, and that
34:37
Speaker 4: never really changes.
34:38
Speaker 1: So, Brian, what's the status of Josh Jacobs headed into
34:41
Speaker 1: training camp here?
34:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, really, nothing's changed. I mean, those things are obviously
34:45
Speaker 4: legal matters that are out of our hands and so
34:47
Speaker 4: but he'll be out there and we look forward to
34:50
Speaker 4: to him being out there. You know, he's obviously such
34:53
Speaker 4: a big important part of our football team. So, and
34:55
Speaker 4: he's healthy, and I think he looks really good often
34:58
Speaker 4: as a guy coming to camp and really surprised to
35:02
Speaker 4: do versus what happened or positions that are rowing to Yeah, yeah, no,
35:11
Speaker 4: that's a good question. I think this goes back to
35:14
Speaker 4: when I was when I wasn't up here for that
35:15
Speaker 4: those springs. But every spring you'd hear you call into
35:18
Speaker 4: the office and you know, Regie McKenzie's and the door
35:20
Speaker 4: seas of the world will be telling you about how
35:21
Speaker 4: this guy was tearing it up and that guy was
35:22
Speaker 4: From about the time we get the pads that completely flipped, right,
35:25
Speaker 4: you know. And uh so it it changes because of
35:29
Speaker 4: the physical nature and the and the pads aspect of it,
35:31
Speaker 4: for sure. So there's some guys that will stand out
35:34
Speaker 4: in O t as and then they'll might hit a
35:36
Speaker 4: wall when they get here. The guys continue on and
35:39
Speaker 4: they're able to do that. Other guys maybe that didn't
35:41
Speaker 4: look you know, great, because maybe they're not the athletes
35:43
Speaker 4: some other guys were. But when the pads come on,
35:46
Speaker 4: and it's a different story. So I think you're always
35:49
Speaker 4: surprised every year by a couple of guys and maybe
35:52
Speaker 4: the you know, good and bad, but it's uh, I
35:56
Speaker 4: think you expect that, you know, you expect to kind
35:58
Speaker 4: of have some of that and you know, hopefully we'll
36:01
Speaker 4: have something that this year as well.
36:02
Speaker 1: Josh, have you got any indication for the league that
36:05
Speaker 1: you don't have your running back this season?
36:08
Speaker 4: Again, I'm not going to get into any of that stuff.
36:10
Speaker 4: It's it's really it's out of our hands right now
36:13
Speaker 4: and it's kind of an illegal thing. And then until
36:15
Speaker 4: that stuff transpires, I'm not sure that legal get really
36:18
Speaker 4: involved in it.
36:19
Speaker 6: Can you can you kind of talk about your thought
36:22
Speaker 6: process since drafting trade and how you've handled the kicking situation,
36:27
Speaker 6: Like long ball kicked for a Super Bowl team is
36:29
Speaker 6: a rookie Mason for a nasty championship. So it's not
36:32
Speaker 6: that the lookie can't do it for the same time.
36:35
Speaker 6: Like I think it was in twenty two you said,
36:37
Speaker 6: if you have a championship caliber team, you have to
36:39
Speaker 6: have a championship.
36:40
Speaker 2: Type of kickers.
36:40
Speaker 6: So how have you kind of approached it since you
36:43
Speaker 6: picked him in different rules?
36:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. Obviously we just made one right,
36:48
Speaker 4: you know. So we had a Lenny Creek came in
36:50
Speaker 4: and kick thro well first and will work out the
36:52
Speaker 4: other day, and you know, so we made that move.
36:55
Speaker 4: He's also an international player as well, so that gives
36:57
Speaker 4: us some flexibility as we head into you know, at
36:59
Speaker 4: the end of the season as far practice squad. And
37:02
Speaker 4: we also signed a tight end that has a HAD
37:05
Speaker 4: tag as well, so which is part of the process there. Obviously,
37:09
Speaker 4: we really like Trey. It wasn't something we went into
37:11
Speaker 4: the draft last year said hey, we're gonna go target
37:12
Speaker 4: a kicker and try to draft a kicker, but he
37:14
Speaker 4: was the highest ranked guy on our board when that fell,
37:17
Speaker 4: and so we felt that he has a chance to
37:20
Speaker 4: be a very very good kicker in this league and
37:21
Speaker 4: be one of those championship level kickers. Otherwise we wouldn't
37:24
Speaker 4: have taken him as we know with all positions, but
37:27
Speaker 4: particularly kickers, it can take some time to become a
37:30
Speaker 4: great kicker in this league. So we really like Trey,
37:34
Speaker 4: we really like what he's made of, and we'll kind
37:36
Speaker 4: of see how it goes, but we're really optimistic that
37:40
Speaker 4: he has a chance to be one of those guys.
37:42
Speaker 5: Do you have to scour the waiver wire for a
37:44
Speaker 5: long snapper?
37:46
Speaker 4: We may have to do that, yes, ministarily the waiver wire, Aaron,
37:50
Speaker 4: We'll probably there's some guys in the street, will probably
37:52
Speaker 4: bring some guys into workout. You know, he's got a
37:54
Speaker 4: little bit of a calf. Nothing long term, but it
37:57
Speaker 4: doesn't disrupt practice when when you don't have a guy
37:59
Speaker 4: who can have it so special teams guys don't like that.
38:02
Speaker 4: So I don't see what the problem is. You know
38:04
Speaker 4: that we've got to do jrugs machine, We've got lots
38:06
Speaker 4: of things to do, but uh, it does disrupt practice
38:09
Speaker 4: and and quite frankly, with a rookie kicker, we want
38:12
Speaker 4: to have as much you know, practice there as we
38:14
Speaker 4: can get. So it would be nice to have Matt
38:16
Speaker 4: out there and there may be a time where he's
38:18
Speaker 4: able to do something of the snapping before he can
38:20
Speaker 4: do a lot of the running. That's really more of
38:21
Speaker 4: the issue. So but hopefully we can get him back
38:24
Speaker 4: soon because that continuity there is important.
38:26
Speaker 5: J kicker question how much patience, how much riding the
38:31
Speaker 5: wave or let a guy grow?
38:32
Speaker 2: Which important?
38:33
Speaker 1: Who?
38:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to think that I'm gonna have more
38:36
Speaker 4: patients than I've had. It's interesting, you know, since since
38:40
Speaker 4: you know, the last kicker we've had here that's been
38:42
Speaker 4: obviously was Mason, who was really consistent for us in
38:45
Speaker 4: the regular season, we've been at a higher percentage than
38:48
Speaker 4: Mason was. Right with the kickers, all the different kickers
38:50
Speaker 4: we've had, it's just the playoffs, you know, that's where
38:52
Speaker 4: it's really we've really struggled. And obviously that's important to me,
38:56
Speaker 4: right that's the most important thing is to be able
38:57
Speaker 4: to make those kind of kicks. But so I'd like
39:01
Speaker 4: to have some patience here. But at the end of
39:03
Speaker 4: the day, any player, you know, if he's costing this
39:06
Speaker 4: opportunity to win football games, and we're gonna have to
39:09
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to look at that. But again, we
39:11
Speaker 4: really we really have a lot of confidence and Trey
39:14
Speaker 4: and what he's gonna be able to do. But he
39:15
Speaker 4: is a rookie kicker and he's got a lot to
39:17
Speaker 4: learn and to earn before he gets there.
39:22
Speaker 5: To finish games and at how do you evaluate something
39:27
Speaker 5: like that?
39:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think we're not gonna be able to
39:31
Speaker 4: evaluate it till we get there, right, you know, I
39:33
Speaker 4: think certainly, I know Mad and his staff have put
39:35
Speaker 4: a lot of thought in the preparation phases of how
39:37
Speaker 4: we're preparing for situational football. I think that's really important
39:41
Speaker 4: in this in in today's game. But it's it's you know,
39:45
Speaker 4: it's going to be in the putting. We got to
39:46
Speaker 4: get there, and we've got to do it, and I
39:48
Speaker 4: expect this team that will do it. I think that's
39:50
Speaker 4: it's an important part. And and it wasn't like last year.
39:52
Speaker 4: We didn't have evidence early in the season of being
39:54
Speaker 4: able to do that and put teams away, but we
39:57
Speaker 4: weren't able to do it late when it mattered. And
39:59
Speaker 4: I think, you know, this team has over the last
40:02
Speaker 4: few years, has accomplished some good things, but what we're
40:04
Speaker 4: trying to accomplish, we haven't been able to get over
40:06
Speaker 4: that that step. And so I think the only way
40:09
Speaker 4: you're going to get better is if you intentionally try
40:11
Speaker 4: to so you know, and it's not like we hadn't before,
40:14
Speaker 4: but I think it's something that we put a lot
40:17
Speaker 4: of emphasis on and I expect us to be able
40:20
Speaker 4: to accomplish that, but we won't know until we get there, right,
40:22
Speaker 4: we must.
40:23
Speaker 1: Face something long term.
40:24
Speaker 6: You mentioned an injury or how big of a.
40:27
Speaker 1: Four year?
40:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, a big year for me, and it's we're working
40:30
Speaker 4: through to see if it's gonna be something long term
40:32
Speaker 4: or not. You know, with we've always around here with head,
40:35
Speaker 4: necks and hearts, it's a little bit more sensitive than
40:37
Speaker 4: some of the other injuries. Right, You get to take
40:39
Speaker 4: that a little bit slower and make sure that what
40:41
Speaker 4: you know is what you know. This is a neck injury.
40:44
Speaker 4: So we'll we'll we'll take our time and make sure
40:46
Speaker 4: we know what we know before we put it at
40:47
Speaker 4: any kind of risk.
40:49
Speaker 5: Speaking of how much conversation you haven't math throughout the
40:52
Speaker 5: off season as far as friends around with what you
40:55
Speaker 5: do to build your roster and even iron coordinator, Yeah,
40:59
Speaker 5: you saw many tight ends go way earlier I think
41:02
Speaker 5: than a lot of people were. Draft kind of leaning
41:05
Speaker 5: into this thirteen personnel heavy, trying to get how much
41:10
Speaker 5: conversation you have Matt as far as this is what
41:12
Speaker 5: we want to look like and how we might be
41:14
Speaker 5: able to take advantage of some of these trends.
41:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talk a lot about it. I think that's
41:17
Speaker 4: the one that really in my opinion, And you know,
41:20
Speaker 4: the as you've seen some of the emergency of more
41:22
Speaker 4: tight ends is because everybody started running so much more nickel, right,
41:26
Speaker 4: you know, so you wanted to get bodies on there
41:28
Speaker 4: that could that could handle that, particularly in the run game,
41:32
Speaker 4: and just gives you a lot more versatility. Last year
41:34
Speaker 4: was a really good draft for as far as volume
41:36
Speaker 4: for tight ends goes. I think we'll see that can
41:38
Speaker 4: continue for a little while. It always kind of swings,
41:40
Speaker 4: you know, you always see some of that, and certainly
41:42
Speaker 4: that's where we are now. And I think as as
41:45
Speaker 4: Matt and his staff build out what they want to
41:47
Speaker 4: do each and every year, either those conversations happening on
41:51
Speaker 4: how we have to kind of look at the team
41:53
Speaker 4: and how we might have to manage the roster as
41:55
Speaker 4: far as numbers go, So every year is a little
41:57
Speaker 4: bit different. It's certainly something we talk about a lot.
41:59
Speaker 4: But I think the one thing over the last five
42:01
Speaker 4: or six years. Is that you know the rise of
42:04
Speaker 4: I think when I first entered the league, teams were
42:06
Speaker 4: in nickel maybe thirty percent of the time, thirty five
42:08
Speaker 4: percent of the time, and it was usually the third
42:10
Speaker 4: corner who was a smaller player that was not asked
42:12
Speaker 4: to do much in the run game because it wasn't
42:14
Speaker 4: on the field during during those downs. Now you're it's
42:17
Speaker 4: really your base defense. Nickels, your base defense. You're out
42:19
Speaker 4: there seventy to eighty percent of the time in that package,
42:22
Speaker 4: and that player has to insert in the run game.
42:24
Speaker 4: So they've become more safety body types than corner body types, but.
42:28
Speaker 1: They're asked to do a lot.
42:29
Speaker 4: So that particular position has become a trick for me,
42:31
Speaker 4: valuable because of everything they're not only asked to do,
42:34
Speaker 4: you know, cover man inserting the run game, you know,
42:38
Speaker 4: the zone stuff, and then really the communication with the
42:40
Speaker 4: inside linebackers and the other safetyes. So it's a lot
42:42
Speaker 4: asked at that position, and I think that'll continue for
42:45
Speaker 4: a while.
42:47
Speaker 5: You look at how much playing in the preseason as
42:52
Speaker 5: any impact that you've done, any study, whether that.
42:55
Speaker 4: Has you know, you're talking about with injuris and stuff.
43:00
Speaker 4: Times that we're talking about whether.
43:05
Speaker 1: More you know, and.
43:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously we've run on the alan x
43:11
Speaker 4: on that end, and quite frankly, it can change a
43:14
Speaker 4: little bit from time to time. I think it's important
43:17
Speaker 4: that they get out there a little bit. I think
43:18
Speaker 4: it's always been, you know, my thought that if you
43:20
Speaker 4: can get him out there a little bit, but at
43:22
Speaker 4: the same time, not much, you know. I do think
43:24
Speaker 4: the you know, uh, since the joint practices have become
43:28
Speaker 4: a trend, you can get a lot of that work
43:31
Speaker 4: done where you're not particularly exposing the quarterback.
43:34
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