Latest / The Huddle / 09/08/26 - Hour 3
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Dominating a Tuesday in the good land. It's the huddle
- 0:02Speaker 1: Fox sports radio, Wisconsin drew Billy and Armin bringing it
- 0:05Speaker 1: to you. Hello. Seven o'clock clubbers.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Welcome in. Water's fine. Welcome in.
- 0:12Speaker 1: The water is fine. We're glad that you're with us.
- 0:15Speaker 1: What are we talking about today?
- 0:16Speaker 2: Everything.
- 0:18Speaker 1: College football, Badgers, Notre Dame, Brewers, Cubs. Oh, Packers Vikings,
- 0:23Speaker 1: which by the way is inching ever closer. We have
- 0:27Speaker 1: a NFL professional tackle football on Wednesday and Thursday. This
- 0:31Speaker 1: week does the appetizer and then, and then the Packers
- 0:34Speaker 1: and the Vikings at us bank stadium on Sunday.
- 0:38Speaker 3: It gets, it only gets better from here, Drew, because
- 0:40Speaker 3: we also then on Thursday night, five to seven, get
- 0:42Speaker 3: the first Thursday night huddle live from the annex of
- 0:46Speaker 3: the Pottawatomie sports book. And there will be so much
- 0:48Speaker 3: to talk about, not only the games that you mentioned,
- 0:50Speaker 3: the one that will happen on Wednesday night that will
- 0:51Speaker 3: kick off the season as we start up with a
- 0:54Speaker 3: rematch of the Super Bowl from a year ago. But
- 0:56Speaker 3: then on Thursday, now we get the expedited news, potentially
- 1:00Speaker 3: some little bits of news on the Josh Jacobs thing
- 1:03Speaker 3: as he got his court date, his initial court date
- 1:05Speaker 3: moved up from November to September 10th. So potentially a
- 1:09Speaker 3: little bit of news in that standpoint too.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Speaking of news, what will we know and when will
- 1:16Speaker 1: we know Who's starting for the Packers on the offensive line?
- 1:20Speaker 1: Because yesterday's answer from Matt LaFleur was kind of noncommittal.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Rather vague, wasn't it?
- 1:25Speaker 1: Aaron Banks and Zach Bacco-Buele.
- 1:27Speaker 3: I want to say that we would know by Thursday
- 1:30Speaker 3: or Friday, Drew, but from last year, they were very
- 1:35Speaker 3: honest and always talked about, we'll give it right up
- 1:37Speaker 3: until game time, right until game time, especially with two
- 1:40Speaker 3: dudes that are more veteran, right? And guys that have
- 1:42Speaker 3: been there, done that. But for Zach in particular, um,
- 1:47Speaker 3: I wonder what's going to change from now until Sunday.
- 1:51Speaker 3: That's the question, right?
- 1:52Speaker 2: Like, is it that you get a whole lot more
- 1:54Speaker 2: comfortable and.
- 1:54Speaker 3: Confident or swelling possibility be a thing or I don't know.
- 1:59Speaker 1: So what's the tentative plan? Where do they slide in
- 2:03Speaker 1: Belton monk and, you know, Jagger Burton? Or will they
- 2:07Speaker 1: all play in some form or fashion as the game
- 2:10Speaker 1: rolls along?
- 2:10Speaker 3: So I think Burton was going to play regardless. I
- 2:13Speaker 3: think they were going to find a way for Burton
- 2:16Speaker 3: to get snaps, whether that was going to be rotating
- 2:18Speaker 3: in at some point with Jacob Monk at right guard,
- 2:20Speaker 3: whether it was at left guard with Aaron Banks at
- 2:22Speaker 3: some point. Maybe Banks doesn't play the whole game. He
- 2:25Speaker 3: looked fine hanging out on Sunday night at Lambeau Field
- 2:28Speaker 3: for the game. He was out one of the many,
- 2:30Speaker 3: many Packers, or former Packers either way, that they celebrated
- 2:35Speaker 3: with the Wisconsin-Notre Dame game. Belton being kicked out to tackle,
- 2:40Speaker 3: while mostly because of the guard competition, I think this
- 2:45Speaker 3: is one that maybe they saw in.
- 2:49Speaker 3: You know, in the distance, a possibility that you would
- 2:52Speaker 3: want to have somebody dedicated to backup Tom or dollar
- 2:56Speaker 3: in the jar, Baca Buele at that point, if indeed,
- 2:59Speaker 3: so you didn't have to mix in match and move three,
- 3:02Speaker 3: four guys around. So I think that was a intended
- 3:07Speaker 3: consequence of that. Like an intended goal was to have
- 3:10Speaker 3: an isolated backup and right tackle if in case you
- 3:14Speaker 3: had to start somebody there. Anthony Belton didn't bring a
- 3:19Speaker 3: ton of confidence at right tackle, how he played in
- 3:21Speaker 3: the preseason, but I think he'll be your right tackle.
- 3:24Speaker 3: If indeed Zach Baco Buel is unable to go. And
- 3:27Speaker 3: that's a, that's a scary proposition going up against Andrew
- 3:29Speaker 3: Van Ginkle and Dallas Turner.
- 3:30Speaker 1: That is kind of scary. So, and I have no
- 3:33Speaker 1: expectation that Jacobs will play.
- 3:36Speaker 3: No, I would one, but I do think he gets
- 3:39Speaker 3: the court date moved up to Thursday and I think
- 3:42Speaker 3: there's a much more.
- 3:43Speaker 2: We're going to have an answer within the next couple
- 3:45Speaker 2: of weeks. A plea deal of some kind. Yeah, I
- 3:46Speaker 2: would think there will be an answer within the next
- 3:48Speaker 2: couple of weeks.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Then we can lock it in. I'm banking on six
- 3:51Speaker 1: games for him until proven otherwise.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Yeah, four to six games I think is right there.
- 3:55Speaker 3: But to be able to move it up, that means
- 3:57Speaker 3: that the number one thing that's going to have to
- 3:59Speaker 3: happen for him to come off the exempt list, I
- 4:01Speaker 3: don't think it's necessarily a case being closed in the court.
- 4:07Speaker 2: It's Roger Goodell needs to see that video.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's got his... Got his extension now.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Four-year extension. That's right. I thought he was going to retire.
- 4:15Speaker 3: After this one. Four years for what, $ 2 billion? Yeah,
- 4:17Speaker 3: he said he was going to retire after this one.
- 4:19Speaker 2: You think you just want to spend more time with
- 4:21Speaker 2: the family? Yeah, get a hind down, eat some more
- 4:23Speaker 2: peanut M & Ms? I mean, I don't know. I mean,
- 4:25Speaker 2: this is a tough job. You know, being commissioner, raking in, what,
- 4:29Speaker 2: a million a week? Right. What's his new deal worth?
- 4:31Speaker 2: I mean, it was like $ 50 million a year last time.
- 4:33Speaker 3: Yeah, it's $ 60 million a year with a full access
- 4:36Speaker 3: to a private jet the last time.
- 4:37Speaker 2: So we'll get the full details on this next one
- 4:39Speaker 2: coming up. Well, full access to a jet like you
- 4:40Speaker 2: can't afford one. That's like Bud Force One. I just,
- 4:44Speaker 2: I mean, it's nice.
- 4:45Speaker 3: I could afford one, but why would I pay for
- 4:47Speaker 3: it when somebody else is going to pay for it?
- 4:48Speaker 2: That was one of the greatest exchanges ever.
- 4:50Speaker 1: When the Prince of Darkness, Tom Hardcourt said to Bud
- 4:52Speaker 1: Seely after he was stepping down and became commissioner mayor
- 4:54Speaker 1: to say, Bud, you're gonna have to learn how to
- 4:55Speaker 1: fly commercial again. He's like, Tom, I'm keeping the plane.
- 4:59Speaker 2: I like that.
- 5:01Speaker 1: I'm keeping the plane. I'm keeping the plane. Are you nuts?
- 5:05Speaker 2: Come on. Of all the salaries. You got me messed up.
- 5:07Speaker 2: You think I'm losing the plane. The unwashed. Of all
- 5:11Speaker 2: the salaries in sports that people think are wild, Goodell
- 5:14Speaker 2: gets $ 60 million a year. Yeah, but. Think about that
- 5:16Speaker 2: weekly check. He makes billions for the owner. He doesn't
- 5:18Speaker 2: do it. The league makes it. I mean, he doesn't,
- 5:20Speaker 2: he's done a good amount. That's his main job is
- 5:24Speaker 2: to inflate franchise. Any commission. I know it's his job.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Franchise values. Has he done that?
- 5:28Speaker 1: Did they sell the Seahawks for 10 billion?
- 5:30Speaker 2: I'm saying he could sit back and it would happen.
- 5:32Speaker 2: I'm that's all I'm saying.
- 5:33Speaker 1: I understand. Somebody's got to make that.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I do hear what you're saying, Armin.
- 5:38Speaker 2: He does shepherd the process.
- 5:40Speaker 3: I think he's done an exceptional job of catapulting it
- 5:43Speaker 3: to another level.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Was it going to continue to, to get better and bigger? Sure.
- 5:47Speaker 3: But he keeps going more and bigger. And I, Let's
- 5:49Speaker 3: be honest. He has stretched the calendar, which I think
- 5:52Speaker 3: a lot of fans maybe don't like. You know who
- 5:54Speaker 3: does like it?
- 5:55Speaker 2: Owners.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Because it crowbars out another opportunity for you to sell
- 5:59Speaker 3: a standalone game for $ 50 million.
- 6:00Speaker 1: International money. Moving the draft around.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Yeah, that one in just in and of itself. But
- 6:06Speaker 3: taking it to streamers and getting Netflix to pay you
- 6:09Speaker 3: $ 40 to $ 50 million per game?
- 6:13Speaker 2: That works out, too. Now, interesting one.
- 6:15Speaker 3: I saw some people online frustrated with the Goodell situation
- 6:19Speaker 3: because he will be 72 at the expiration of this contract.
- 6:24Speaker 3: And Mark Murphy had to step down at 70 years old.
- 6:26Speaker 3: At what point does the NFL put in an age.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Clause? Or will this now actually be his last year?
- 6:33Speaker 2: Written in our bylaws originally, which makes us the greatest
- 6:36Speaker 2: sports entity of all time because the Packers, once again,
- 6:39Speaker 2: they had it written in perfectly. But you're right. It's
- 6:42Speaker 2: a good question. I mean, how long should he be
- 6:44Speaker 2: able to do it? Should there be an age limit
- 6:45Speaker 2: at all? I mean, if what we're saying is true
- 6:48Speaker 2: and he does all these things well for the owners,
- 6:50Speaker 2: what do they care?
- 6:52Speaker 3: I don't think there would be, but I think that
- 6:53Speaker 3: there would be maybe a part of this one is, hey,
- 6:57Speaker 3: let's make sure by the expiration here in 2030, we
- 7:00Speaker 3: know exactly who we're handing it off to.
- 7:02Speaker 2: The decision to work four more years when you're 68
- 7:04Speaker 2: has got to be a tough one. And I think
- 7:06Speaker 2: most people would say, well, I don't want to do that.
- 7:07Speaker 2: But you know what? If you're going to make $ 240
- 7:10Speaker 2: million at the end of that four years, I'm sure
- 7:12Speaker 2: it's a little bit easier to decide.
- 7:13Speaker 3: That would be a lot easier to do. And it's
- 7:15Speaker 3: not like you can't do whatever he wants. Speaking of commissioners,
- 7:20Speaker 3: Kathy Engelbert.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Oh, stepping down.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Go figure.
- 7:24Speaker 3: They're at the WNBA. That would be an example, Armin,
- 7:27Speaker 3: that the league was going to flourish. The league was
- 7:30Speaker 3: going to get better when Caitlin Clark walks into it, right?
- 7:33Speaker 3: Like it was going to get a sizable kick in
- 7:36Speaker 3: terms of public conversation and perception when a game, but
- 7:40Speaker 3: you can also be the commissioner that's there.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Seize the growth.
- 7:44Speaker 3: But still not be the reason why it's growing or
- 7:46Speaker 3: the good part of the growth.
- 7:48Speaker 2: That's true. But I mean, some leagues are in a
- 7:50Speaker 2: different stage of like development. Like when, like when Stern
- 7:54Speaker 2: took over the NBA and maybe the WNB now there
- 7:58Speaker 2: is like sort of like, okay, it's got to grow.
- 7:59Speaker 2: It's got to, I just think the NFL is so
- 8:01Speaker 2: turnkey now, but maybe good out a big part of
- 8:03Speaker 2: that too. I mean, you could just get in that train.
- 8:05Speaker 2: That's the thing.
- 8:06Speaker 1: What, what, what more could they have done or could
- 8:10Speaker 1: somebody have driven it into the ditch? We'll never know.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Cause you don't know.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I think it's possible. I guess like boxing used to
- 8:16Speaker 2: be the number one sport in this country. Like, you know,
- 8:18Speaker 2: anything is possible.
- 8:20Speaker 1: But I mean, how do you construct that alternate reality?
- 8:23Speaker 1: And if they had been somebody else besides taking over
- 8:26Speaker 1: after Tagliabue, right.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Then how do we, Yeah, the interesting one is what
- 8:32Speaker 3: you're able to avoid, what you're able to have the
- 8:35Speaker 3: league be able to go through. They were able to
- 8:37Speaker 3: survive the concussion conversation that's happened over the last 15 years.
- 8:40Speaker 2: It's a big one. Sizable domestic violence conversation, right? The
- 8:43Speaker 2: Ray Wrights thing was under there.
- 8:44Speaker 3: The TV rights deal is one, but also it's like,
- 8:47Speaker 3: what problems do you make go away?
- 8:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:50Speaker 3: And he's done a very, very good job of being
- 8:52Speaker 3: able to silence some of those problems. Outside of the
- 8:55Speaker 3: guys like us that make jokes about Robert Kraft every
- 8:57Speaker 3: once in a while, we don't talk about that very much.
- 8:59Speaker 3: The Jed York conversation got real quiet here.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Now the games are going to start and the games
- 9:03Speaker 2: will be awesome. And he also has the advantage of
- 9:05Speaker 2: an audience, an American public that's willing to overlook all
- 9:08Speaker 2: those things as long as they get to watch football.
- 9:09Speaker 2: As long as we get to watch football and your
- 9:11Speaker 2: team wins. That's right. Unless the United States government outlaws
- 9:15Speaker 2: the game one day, I don't see any other way
- 9:18Speaker 2: around how this is going to... I really don't. I mean,
- 9:20Speaker 2: you could say the culture is shifting about the concussion and... Unfortunately,
- 9:24Speaker 2: we saw the Brett Favre video. I don't think it
- 9:26Speaker 2: matters to people. They want to watch football. They want
- 9:29Speaker 2: to watch this game, and they want to gamble on it,
- 9:31Speaker 2: and they want to play fantasy football and do all
- 9:34Speaker 2: those things. It's an American ritual, and I don't think
- 9:36Speaker 2: that's going to change. But who knows? Things always do change.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Your argument, Armin, is equivalent to what people say, like
- 9:43Speaker 1: what does the first base coach do or what does
- 9:45Speaker 1: the hitting coach do?
- 9:47Speaker 2: There are things, obviously Goodell is more aggressive with international stuff.
- 9:50Speaker 2: He pushes boundaries. Like you said, by having all the
- 9:52Speaker 2: networks battle each other. I mean, you could be a
- 9:55Speaker 2: lot less Putting.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Games on streams, playing, expanding the highlights, spend different days
- 9:59Speaker 1: of the week, international play, got a freaking game in Australia.
- 10:02Speaker 2: You're not losing money on that. Someone could have pushed
- 10:05Speaker 2: the envelope a lot less and say, you know what,
- 10:06Speaker 2: we like our regular networks.
- 10:08Speaker 1: But then would the sport be as profitable?
- 10:10Speaker 2: It wouldn't be as profitable, probably, by the bottom line.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's all about franchise values, because that's what
- 10:15Speaker 1: the commissioner's job is to increase the values of franchises
- 10:19Speaker 1: and take all the bullets for all the owners so
- 10:20Speaker 1: that they don't get the heat.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Because in the words of Tony Soprano, we're running a
- 10:24Speaker 3: business here. We're running a business here. We're running a
- 10:26Speaker 3: business here.
- 10:27Speaker 2: And it's a good time to get into pro sports.
- 10:29Speaker 2: As we know, every property equity guy wants to get
- 10:31Speaker 2: in and get out and make the money.
- 10:32Speaker 1: But is it also a bubble?
- 10:33Speaker 2: That's a great question. You've got to think this. Based
- 10:36Speaker 2: on what's happening with the Dodgers and the Lakers and
- 10:39Speaker 2: the whole... You've got to.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Think at some point... At.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Some point, there's a cap, right?
- 10:44Speaker 3: At some point, you think that there would be a ceiling.
- 10:47Speaker 1: People said that when Babe Ruth made $ 1, 000 a week.
- 10:50Speaker 4: True.
- 10:50Speaker 1: It's like, how can we pay one man $ 1, 000 a week?
- 10:54Speaker 3: I can only imagine the conversations when Brett Favre signed
- 10:56Speaker 3: the first $ 100 million contract. Now we had a corner
- 11:00Speaker 3: last night signed for $ 100 million guaranteed.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Robin Yount was the first $ 3 million player in baseball
- 11:05Speaker 1: in the small market.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Herb Cole bought the Bucs for what?
- 11:08Speaker 1: $ 14 million?
- 11:09Speaker 5: $ 14 million?
- 11:10Speaker 2: $ 14 million. $ 18 million or whatever in 85, and then
- 11:12Speaker 2: he sold it for $ 550.
- 11:13Speaker 3: Wow.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Yep. And then the next, I mean, then what happens?
- 11:16Speaker 2: And then gave him $ 100 million.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Adonacio bought the Brewers 25 years ago, right, for $ 225
- 11:25Speaker 1: million or something like that.
- 11:26Speaker 2: It's just crazy the rate of increase of the values.
- 11:28Speaker 1: And now it's worth, what, $ 2 billion. Oh, my goodness.
- 11:31Speaker 3: And what will it be worth when Mike sells it?
- 11:36Speaker 3: When the sun sells it, potentially, then what will it
- 11:40Speaker 3: be worth?
- 11:40Speaker 2: I can't imagine a number, and no number is too crazy,
- 11:42Speaker 2: because if that's decades down the road, there's no way.
- 11:45Speaker 2: I mean, when he sells it, we don't know, but
- 11:46Speaker 2: it could be decades. I can't imagine a number that's
- 11:50Speaker 2: too crazy.
- 11:50Speaker 3: Listening to, and now this is a very different conversation,
- 11:53Speaker 3: but listening to the way Mark's talked about it, I
- 11:55Speaker 3: think it would be a tough thing for Mike to
- 11:57Speaker 3: have to give up. You're seeing now, as difficult as
- 12:02Speaker 3: it is for the Buss family, Dr. Buss Loved the Lakers.
- 12:06Speaker 3: He did totally loved the Lakers. That, that era of
- 12:10Speaker 3: pro sport owner that loves the team, the family ownership,
- 12:13Speaker 3: that's going to be, that's totally out of, out of
- 12:16Speaker 3: the conversation is getting to be too big of assets
- 12:20Speaker 3: for it to be a luxury project.
- 12:22Speaker 2: And it's rare that if you do get a guy
- 12:23Speaker 2: like that, he'll have such an emotional connection that he
- 12:26Speaker 2: won't want to sell and make the, you know, not
- 12:28Speaker 2: look at it as a business, but Mark's been that guy.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Like we're lucky to have him. I keep saying it
- 12:32Speaker 2: because of that. And hopefully that becomes family ownership, you know,
- 12:36Speaker 2: that we get somewhat stable because if it's not, then
- 12:39Speaker 2: what's going to happen.
- 12:39Speaker 3: You need a little bit of family ownership. That's got
- 12:41Speaker 3: some money behind them. And they do have some money.
- 12:44Speaker 3: They do have some, some money behind them.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Not a ton. Cause this team doesn't make a lot.
- 12:48Speaker 2: And that's the reality that people don't like to admit.
- 12:50Speaker 2: A lot of times you make a lot more money
- 12:51Speaker 2: when you sell it. Absolutely. And this is not a
- 12:53Speaker 2: revenue driver in Milwaukee. We know that we've had this
- 12:56Speaker 2: discussion a million times. So, yeah, I mean, I can't
- 12:59Speaker 2: imagine the number. Is it a bubble? All those questions.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Very interesting for the sports business crowd.
- 13:06Speaker 3: You guys want to talk about some money as well.
- 13:08Speaker 3: A lot was made about the Minutemen of Massachusetts coming in,
- 13:13Speaker 3: cashing that check, and then laughing at Greg Sciano and
- 13:15Speaker 3: Rutgers as they got their $ 1.
- 13:16Speaker 2: 5 million.
- 13:17Speaker 3: They were not the only ones to be able to
- 13:19Speaker 3: grab some big cash. This from Front Office Sports. A
- 13:22Speaker 3: couple of teams that cashed in big on their BUY games.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Idaho State went to Utah State. I didn't know Utah
- 13:31Speaker 3: State was throwing 400 racks to try to grab a
- 13:35Speaker 3: dub in week number one.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Idaho State said... Utah State was paying. They're paying.
- 13:42Speaker 3: Utah State's paying money to come and get clapped by
- 13:46Speaker 3: Idaho State. The Potatoes rolled through, grabbed $ 400, 000 for it.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Tarleton State went to Bowling Green. Come on now. Stand up,
- 13:54Speaker 2: Tarleton State. Sorry, Bowling Green.
- 13:57Speaker 3: $ 360, 000 goes to FCS Tarleton State.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Now, Tarleton State in Texas. Yes. They are the Texans,
- 14:04Speaker 2: I believe.
- 14:04Speaker 3: That's going to be good football.
- 14:07Speaker 2: There could be good football if you're playing there in Texas.
- 14:09Speaker 2: That is the epitome of brutality, though, getting paid to
- 14:11Speaker 2: lose or paying someone to lose.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Even better when the joke team of all joke teams,
- 14:17Speaker 3: like the punchline of all college sports, the one that
- 14:20Speaker 3: I use all the time, just throw the Citadel on
- 14:23Speaker 3: the schedule.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Oh, baby.
- 14:25Speaker 3: They got $ 305, 000 to.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Go win maybe the game of the weekend. That extra five, man.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Maybe the game of the weekend. Charlotte against the Citadel.
- 14:37Speaker 2: Come on now. 14 and a half point dogs came
- 14:41Speaker 2: in and won outright. Wow. In triple overtime. Wow. 43
- 14:46Speaker 2: to 41 over Charlotte. Man, that is crazy. The Citadel. Now,
- 14:51Speaker 2: don't worry.
- 14:52Speaker 3: The Charlotte 49ers were able to dig up that gold
- 14:54Speaker 3: and find that $ 305, 000 to pay the Citadel.
- 14:58Speaker 2: But I always say, just line up the Citadel.
- 15:01Speaker 3: The Citadel said, yeah, put 60 on the clock. Put
- 15:04Speaker 3: 60 on the clock and let's see what happens.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Somewhere Travis Jervia smiling. Citadel alum. That's true.
- 15:11Speaker 1: You just had to get that reference in. You were
- 15:12Speaker 1: itching to.
- 15:13Speaker 2: I had to. Yep. Well, I got my Chris Wanky
- 15:16Speaker 2: one in, right? And then what's next?
- 15:17Speaker 1: Travis Jervie and what? What's he known for?
- 15:20Speaker 2: The lion, the pet lion. Yeah. Nala, the pet lion.
- 15:25Speaker 1: With LaShawn McCoy.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Gilbert told me he didn't want to get close to
- 15:28Speaker 2: it ever. Even better.
- 15:29Speaker 3: You want the final capper?
- 15:31Speaker 2: Yes. What else?
- 15:33Speaker 3: Do you think you could name the head coach of
- 15:36Speaker 3: the Citadel? Former Packers assistant.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Oh, come on now. I'm trying to think. Oh, man. Okay.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Not Sylvester Croom. Former Packers coordinator. Wait a minute. Coordinator? Oh, well, thanks.
- 15:53Speaker 2: My thing fell. I'm trying to think. I can't think
- 15:55Speaker 2: of one.
- 15:56Speaker 1: The special teams guy. It's not Passaccia.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Zook? No. No. Versace, Zook. Man.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Who was the assistant to the assistant?
- 16:07Speaker 2: You're right on it. You're thinking of it. You're thinking
- 16:10Speaker 2: of it.
- 16:11Speaker 3: You're thinking of that 2021 49ers game.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Oh, no. It's Mo Drayton as the coach. Drayton. Mo Drayton.
- 16:18Speaker 2: The head coach of the Citadel. Sorry about that. Comes
- 16:21Speaker 2: in and wins. How about that? That's crazy. What a
- 16:26Speaker 2: redemption arc.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Holy cow.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Special teams assistant coach from 18 to 20.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Special teams coordinator in 21.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Then went to be the assistant with the Raiders head
- 16:37Speaker 3: coach at the Citadel since 2023. And the Bulldogs go
- 16:42Speaker 3: out and pull off the stunner of the weekend.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Wild. That's hilarious. Good job, Moe Drake. That is a
- 16:48Speaker 2: hero arc.
- 16:50Speaker 3: That's a heck of a redemption. Heck of a redemption.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Now Bulldogs head coach. How many times do you think
- 16:56Speaker 3: he thinks of that blocked punt?
- 16:59Speaker 2: That's a great question. I mean, he's come out of
- 17:01Speaker 2: it pretty good. He's got a head coaching job. It
- 17:03Speaker 2: worked out pretty well for him. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe
- 17:06Speaker 2: he's trying to put it behind him. I mean, I haven't,
- 17:10Speaker 2: but I hope he has.
- 17:13Speaker 3: Buddy Palin Kenosha. Pete Roselle built the hot rod. Tagliabue
- 17:17Speaker 3: kept the tank full and oil changed. Goodell painted it
- 17:19Speaker 3: pink and loaned it to his European cousin. That would
- 17:23Speaker 3: just not be the case. The amount of money that
- 17:26Speaker 3: they have now been able to garner because of it.
- 17:29Speaker 3: And don't think Paul Tagliabue wasn't thinking and planting the
- 17:31Speaker 3: seeds to move over to Europe.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Wasn't he the one that started a league?
- 17:37Speaker 3: Wouldn't Paul Tagliabue have been in charge when they tried
- 17:39Speaker 3: to fire up NFL Europe?
- 17:40Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably deserves credit as much as a lot
- 17:42Speaker 2: of these guys. I mean, Roselle did obviously what he did.
- 17:45Speaker 2: He was a revolutionary. So they've all pushed it forward
- 17:48Speaker 2: in their own way. And here's the thing. They're all
- 17:50Speaker 2: going to be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I mean,
- 17:51Speaker 2: that's just what it is. They're all going to be.
- 17:52Speaker 3: Celebrated, and they're all going to be always revered in
- 17:57Speaker 3: what they've done for the NFL because it is the
- 17:59Speaker 3: juggernaut of all sports.
- 18:02Speaker 2: That one's not changing. Are all commissioners like that in
- 18:04Speaker 2: every sport? Not really. I don't think every commissioner has
- 18:08Speaker 2: the rosy history of every sport. But in the NFL,
- 18:12Speaker 2: I mean, they do. What was the MLB commissioner, Drew,
- 18:16Speaker 2: that got pushed out? Faye Vincent or something? So there
- 18:19Speaker 2: are some that have endings. There's coups. There's coups for sure.
- 18:25Speaker 3: We got a little bit of a sudden change here.
- 18:28Speaker 3: Our boy Hunter Baumgart has fallen ill. So he is
- 18:31Speaker 3: not going to be able to join us coming up
- 18:34Speaker 3: here on the other side. But I think maybe we
- 18:36Speaker 3: spin through his recap of the game. Let's do that again. Yeah, absolutely.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Feel better, Hunter. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.
- 18:42Speaker 1: We can call the audible for sure. All right.
- 18:46Speaker 2: 877-794-1973.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Get in. You'll hear from Hunter next on the huddle.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Drew, Billy, and Armin in the huddle.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin, 920 Milwaukee, 1070 Madison. iHeartRadio app,
- 18:58Speaker 1: YouTube X, and Facebook on the stream. Appreciate everybody getting
- 19:03Speaker 1: up early and hanging out with us. No Hunter Baumgart
- 19:05Speaker 1: this segment. He's brought to us by Import Minded. He's
- 19:08Speaker 1: not feeling.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Well this morning.
- 19:10Speaker 1: He's got to rest up and get ready for the
- 19:11Speaker 1: baseball pregame show tonight.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Yes.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Brewers Cubs. What is this? Is it round two of
- 19:17Speaker 1: this series and round what?
- 19:21Speaker 3: Around 12 of the overall fight that goes down, but
- 19:26Speaker 3: it does.
- 19:28Speaker 2: This would be the deciding game, right? This would be
- 19:30Speaker 2: game six.
- 19:30Speaker 3: Brewers with a 3-2 lead trying to knock out the
- 19:32Speaker 3: Cubs in six. Brewers in six doesn't have the same
- 19:35Speaker 3: ring to it.
- 19:36Speaker 1: But we'll take it.
- 19:37Speaker 2: But I would definitely take it. I'll take it for sure.
- 19:39Speaker 2: You're right.
- 19:39Speaker 1: It doesn't flow the same, though. It doesn't flow the same.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Let's listen to Hunter's recap from yesterday's proceedings at American
- 19:46Speaker 1: Family Field.
- 19:47Speaker 5: Thanks, guys. Another thrilling game between the Brewers. Brewers and
- 19:50Speaker 5: the Cubs yesterday. It seems like every single one of
- 19:52Speaker 5: these is a thriller between these two. And the Brewers
- 19:55Speaker 5: come out victorious 4-3. Of course, the ninth inning defense
- 19:59Speaker 5: ended the game on a quite a high note, right?
- 20:02Speaker 5: You've got Luis Lara with the catch against the wall,
- 20:05Speaker 5: Jackson Churio with a sliding catch to end the game.
- 20:07Speaker 5: Christian Yelich talked about how difficult that Luis Lara catch was,
- 20:11Speaker 5: even though Lara makes it look so easy.
- 20:13Speaker 2: They've been awesome all year, especially Lara.
- 20:15Speaker 4: He makes that play at the wall look really, really easy,
- 20:18Speaker 4: and it's not an easy play, especially in right field
- 20:20Speaker 4: because of how it slants in and goes back.
- 20:24Speaker 2: And just like a funky area over there. He makes
- 20:27Speaker 2: it look easy. That's a huge play, obviously.
- 20:29Speaker 4: If he doesn't make it, then potentially a tight ball
- 20:32Speaker 4: game and may still be out there. So big defensive
- 20:35Speaker 4: plays and really just a great team win today.
- 20:37Speaker 5: And Garrett Mitchell was in center field for that ninth inning.
- 20:40Speaker 5: He gives his perspective on the Lara catch.
- 20:42Speaker 2: What an incredible catch.
- 20:44Speaker 5: My perspective on it was I saw the ball up,
- 20:47Speaker 5: thought I had a chance, and when I looked over,
- 20:48Speaker 5: I saw him starting.
- 20:50Speaker 2: To track it, and I know that I could see
- 20:53Speaker 2: his eyes. I was like, oh, okay, this is going
- 20:56Speaker 2: to be a close one type play. Obviously, it was awesome.
- 20:59Speaker 5: So, how about this? The Brewers' last four wins against
- 21:02Speaker 5: the Chicago Cubs have all been come-from-behind victories, and those
- 21:05Speaker 5: can be a little sweeter, can't they? Brewers are eight
- 21:07Speaker 5: games up with 17 to play game two of the series.
- 21:10Speaker 5: Jacob Mizorowski on the mound tonight, 640 first pitch. I'll
- 21:14Speaker 5: have you for the baseball pregame show at 530 this
- 21:16Speaker 5: evening on Fox Sports 920 and our social channels. This
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- 21:24Speaker 5: I'll join you guys at 725 to talk more about
- 21:25Speaker 5: the crew.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Back to you guys.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Thank you, Hunter. Thank you, Import Minded. Sorry we couldn't
- 21:32Speaker 1: have Hunter live. Hope he's feeling better for tonight.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Well, he has to. I mean, really, sorry, Billy, but
- 21:38Speaker 2: I was just going to mention he's got to rest
- 21:40Speaker 2: up for tonight because he's got to be up there,
- 21:42Speaker 2: you know. And when Hunter's in the press box, everybody
- 21:44Speaker 2: wants an audience with him. And it's hard because he's
- 21:47Speaker 2: got to talk to everybody and do the reports. Oh,
- 21:50Speaker 2: he's holding court? He's holding court, and his popularity is growing.
- 21:53Speaker 2: The amount of times people ask me, you know, Hunter Baumgart,
- 21:56Speaker 2: I like him a lot. I'm like, I know, he's awesome. Yeah,
- 21:58Speaker 2: he's doing a great job. So his popularity is growing
- 22:01Speaker 2: and growing, so he's got to rest up to make
- 22:03Speaker 2: sure he's good to hold court tonight in the press box.
- 22:07Speaker 2: I didn't realize that he was.
- 22:09Speaker 3: I was going to say, Drew, I didn't realize that
- 22:10Speaker 3: he was the dean of the press box.
- 22:13Speaker 2: Somebody had to take over for Tom. Well, I don't
- 22:15Speaker 2: know if he's there, like, officially yet, but I'm telling you,
- 22:17Speaker 2: he's getting there. I mean, my buddy's uncle at the
- 22:20Speaker 2: draft is like, you know that Hunter? I like Hunter Baumgard.
- 22:23Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I like Hunter a lot, too. And
- 22:26Speaker 2: his reports are, you know, really getting popular.
- 22:28Speaker 3: And just think, if you didn't have that in-person draft
- 22:32Speaker 3: that probably took, what, four to five hours?
- 22:33Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. Four hours, great... You
- 22:36Speaker 2: would have never had that interaction. Great food. Hey, I
- 22:39Speaker 2: would never have that interaction, by the way. How would
- 22:40Speaker 2: you have lived without that fun and frivolity that you're
- 22:43Speaker 2: able to enjoy? I just want to say, we did
- 22:45Speaker 2: debate that a little bit earlier. Dan from Wausau, Billy.
- 22:48Speaker 2: Dan from Wausau greets Mike Witt. Billy, I'm with Armin. Sorry, Billy.
- 22:53Speaker 2: You don't have to apologize.
- 22:55Speaker 3: I apologize to Mike having to sit through the in-person draft.
- 22:58Speaker 2: In-person draft, shake dice and dice, horse race, gamble between rounds,
- 23:02Speaker 2: says Johnny Kribich. Then what are we there for, Johnny?
- 23:04Speaker 2: To hang out with your buddies.
- 23:06Speaker 3: Then let's go and hang out and let's do something.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Let's hang out and have some beers. If I'm here
- 23:12Speaker 3: for a fantasy draft, let's do the draft that we're doing.
- 23:16Speaker 3: Not sit around and wait for somebody to go to
- 23:18Speaker 3: the bathroom and then all of a sudden you're... But
- 23:20Speaker 3: you need five minutes in one round.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Let's roll this thing through. I'm with you. But sometimes
- 23:25Speaker 2: you need an excuse to get together and not just
- 23:28Speaker 2: that it's the weekend anymore. You know, once upon a time, yeah,
- 23:31Speaker 2: your buddies, you get together every weekend, but sometimes you
- 23:33Speaker 2: get old. It's harder. You need an excuse. You need
- 23:35Speaker 2: something to say like, oh, I got to go over there. Why? Well,
- 23:37Speaker 2: it's our fantasy draft. All right. Well, are we trying
- 23:39Speaker 2: to win or are we just trying to hang out?
- 23:42Speaker 2: I think you can do both. We're going to put
- 23:43Speaker 2: this up for some money. I'm trying to win.
- 23:46Speaker 3: Like Dobler said, I think Billy's jealous, and I can
- 23:49Speaker 3: hear it coming through, picking on Armand's fantastic fun with
- 23:53Speaker 3: his friends.
- 23:53Speaker 2: I got your back. Billy's not jealous of that. I
- 23:55Speaker 2: am far, far from jealous. Far from jealous.
- 24:00Speaker 3: But I will say, ran through a number of different
- 24:03Speaker 3: fantasy drafts this weekend. I could have done all of
- 24:06Speaker 3: them in the timeframe that it would have taken one
- 24:09Speaker 3: live draft.
- 24:10Speaker 2: That's why it takes way too much.
- 24:12Speaker 1: That's true.
- 24:12Speaker 2: You can get it.
- 24:13Speaker 3: All the information is right here online, not on some
- 24:16Speaker 3: guy that prints off 18 different spreads.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Hold on one second. How about the guys that built
- 24:22Speaker 2: their own apps? Hold on one second. I got to
- 24:23Speaker 2: look at my trade calculator here. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
- 24:27Speaker 3: It says this is bad value for me to take
- 24:29Speaker 3: Travion Henderson here. I should probably take a long snapper.
- 24:32Speaker 3: I can't handle that. No, and you said J-Love. Is
- 24:35Speaker 3: that Jeremiah or Jordan Love?
- 24:36Speaker 2: No, I wanted Jeremiah. You said J-Love. You said J-Love.
- 24:39Speaker 2: All right, let's put it up for a vote. What
- 24:41Speaker 2: do we believe he said? Yeah, but then you don't
- 24:43Speaker 2: have the problem of so-and-so's internet going out. Or a
- 24:46Speaker 2: guy that just puts it on auto-draft because he didn't
- 24:48Speaker 2: make it. That happens, Billy. Good. Go on auto-draft. Figure
- 24:53Speaker 2: out who you're picking. I'm just saying, if you're in person,
- 24:56Speaker 2: you don't have those problems. Guess what? The computer will
- 24:57Speaker 2: probably pick better than he would have. That's the problem.
- 25:00Speaker 2: That's true. That's the problem.
- 25:04Speaker 1: They use an AI for their draft, and it's like, well,
- 25:06Speaker 1: that's just auto-draft.
- 25:07Speaker 3: It's just auto-draft, yeah. It's been doing that forever. ChadGBT's
- 25:10Speaker 3: got me. Oh, okay, ESPN.com probably would have been okay
- 25:13Speaker 3: at it, too.
- 25:13Speaker 2: I'll agree with you, Billy, on this one. I do
- 25:16Speaker 2: eye roll. If you roll up to the draft saying
- 25:18Speaker 2: you built your own algorithm... And you built your own
- 25:21Speaker 2: like AI or you built your own thing. And, and
- 25:24Speaker 2: then it ranks everyone's draft after, and it gives you
- 25:27Speaker 2: your own trade. Well, of course your own app that
- 25:30Speaker 2: you claim you built gives your draft and a, cause
- 25:33Speaker 2: it told you who to draft. So that doesn't mean
- 25:35Speaker 2: much to me. All right. So these draft grades are
- 25:38Speaker 2: a little nonsense. When you build your own, Hey, I
- 25:40Speaker 2: built my own thing this year. And then you draft
- 25:42Speaker 2: somebody and everyone kind of looked trying to make that
- 25:45Speaker 2: little snortle, that little chortle of a laugh snortle. Yeah, whatever.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Snortle.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Snortle.
- 25:49Speaker 2: So I'll agree that gets a little annoying, right? But overall,
- 25:53Speaker 2: I'm happy about it. Overall, I'm happy about it.
- 25:56Speaker 1: Armand's going to die on that hill.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Yes, yes. Indeed. 8 7 7.
- 26:01Speaker 1: 7 9 4 1 97.
- 26:03Speaker 2: I thought we had a text from a buddy pal
- 26:05Speaker 2: in Kenosha. No, I'm reading this from him.
- 26:07Speaker 3: He's talking about, uh, and in response to the Roger
- 26:10Speaker 3: Goodell changing up with the NFL, he said, uh, I'm
- 26:12Speaker 3: glad everybody's making more money.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Capitalism is superior.
- 26:14Speaker 3: With that being said, I'm not getting paid by the NFL,
- 26:17Speaker 3: so I don't care about Europe expansion, play 60 flag football,
- 26:19Speaker 3: et cetera. What was so wrong with the product in 2009, 10, 11,
- 26:24Speaker 3: something is off now. I'm sure I'm completely wrong though.
- 26:28Speaker 2: I don't know that you're wrong.
- 26:29Speaker 3: It's definitely different, and I don't necessarily know that there
- 26:32Speaker 3: was anything necessarily wrong with the product in 2009, 10,
- 26:36Speaker 3: or 11. What definitely changed in that time that he's
- 26:41Speaker 3: referencing is the CBA. And at that point, the CBA
- 26:45Speaker 3: completely changed after the lockout in 2011 to the point
- 26:49Speaker 3: where you were able to go from having two-a-day practices,
- 26:52Speaker 3: like the old-school night practice that Mike McCarthy would have,
- 26:54Speaker 3: 13 weeks, I believe in the OTAs that led up
- 27:00Speaker 3: into the off season program that got cut down to
- 27:02Speaker 3: eight weeks. Like the calendar changed so much. I think
- 27:06Speaker 3: more than anything that he's talking about, the football definitely
- 27:09Speaker 3: changed at that point because the team's probably got a
- 27:11Speaker 3: little less good, right? Like the, the ability to team
- 27:15Speaker 3: build and player development at that time did change. What
- 27:19Speaker 3: also changed was the, The salaries changed exponentially. And when
- 27:24Speaker 3: somebody went from in 2011 being a really, really good
- 27:27Speaker 3: slot receiver making $ 4 million to now him making $ 14 million,
- 27:32Speaker 3: there's a different level of care that teams are going
- 27:35Speaker 3: to take and just caution with those guys either one
- 27:39Speaker 3: getting ramped up to play and the players as well
- 27:43Speaker 3: being like, well, I'm worth this kind of money right now.
- 27:45Speaker 3: I'm not going to be burning off reps. that aren't
- 27:47Speaker 3: necessarily going to be making us more money. Yeah, I
- 27:49Speaker 3: was going to mention, there's a certain amount of power
- 27:51Speaker 3: that players will feel because of that. They know that
- 27:53Speaker 3: they're the product and that they had that power in
- 27:55Speaker 3: some sense. So I get it, but the logic is like,
- 27:58Speaker 3: you could use that same logic, what was wrong with
- 28:00Speaker 3: the game in 0-9-0-10.
- 28:01Speaker 2: To your point, Billy, nothing wrong, it's just a matter
- 28:03Speaker 2: of pushing it forward. I could say what was wrong
- 28:04Speaker 2: with the game in 1994. You know, I mean, that's
- 28:07Speaker 2: what I enjoyed, but it doesn't mean that the game
- 28:10Speaker 2: is necessarily worse if you change it, but it means
- 28:12Speaker 2: it does push forward, so... Um, you know, he says
- 28:15Speaker 2: something's off now. I'm just, things change. I think your
- 28:18Speaker 2: perspective changes. I don't think it's a big, I don't
- 28:21Speaker 2: think it's a big political statement, but I mean, that's
- 28:24Speaker 2: what he goes to, but he goes to, but that's okay. Um, yes,
- 28:29Speaker 2: everybody's making more money now. Well, owners are, that's for sure.
- 28:32Speaker 2: But that's true of most sports. That's true of most companies.
- 28:35Speaker 2: I would assume if they're successful, if they have a
- 28:37Speaker 2: lot of people patronizing the company. So I would say so.
- 28:41Speaker 3: Yeah, if your business is more popular than it's ever
- 28:44Speaker 3: been and making more money, the last thing you'd want
- 28:46Speaker 3: to do is bring.
- 28:47Speaker 2: In new ownership.
- 28:50Speaker 3: At that point, new management is not what you're exactly
- 28:53Speaker 3: hoping for on your roster.
- 28:54Speaker 2: In the sense that I don't care about Europe, play 60. Okay,
- 28:57Speaker 2: you might not care about that, but those are the
- 28:59Speaker 2: things that they're going to do to try and push
- 29:01Speaker 2: the game forward into new avenues of eventually revenue. I
- 29:06Speaker 2: know a lot of people were very vocal that they
- 29:07Speaker 2: don't want games overseas. There might be a Super Bowl
- 29:10Speaker 2: overseas one day. You had to accept that. Okay, there's
- 29:13Speaker 2: a game in Australia. The Packers played in Brazil. You
- 29:16Speaker 2: still got to watch it as a regular football game.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Maybe it looked a little different. It was a different audience.
- 29:21Speaker 2: If it bothers you that much to have people watching
- 29:24Speaker 2: the game in other countries, I hate to tell you,
- 29:25Speaker 2: that's only going to get more prevalent. I mean, we
- 29:29Speaker 2: saw that when we went to the Super Bowl, the
- 29:30Speaker 2: amount of international fans the Packers had.
- 29:32Speaker 1: For sure.
- 29:32Speaker 2: So, I mean, you have the right to not like it,
- 29:34Speaker 2: but I don't know that it's going to change much.
- 29:37Speaker 2: I think it's a more popular game, and because of that,
- 29:40Speaker 2: it's going to grow in popularity across the world.
- 29:41Speaker 1: That's why the commissioners made a billion dollars over the
- 29:43Speaker 1: last 25 years.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why they re-upped them. That's why they
- 29:46Speaker 2: found it.
- 29:47Speaker 3: Like, him saying that there's going to be an international
- 29:51Speaker 3: Super Bowl at some point, or the franchise, he's not
- 29:54Speaker 3: just throwing that out of midair. You're not just pulling
- 29:56Speaker 3: that out of the back of his head. Somebody's been
- 29:58Speaker 3: wanting to push that, and they've been having some conversations
- 30:01Speaker 3: about it. So he's done a great job with the
- 30:04Speaker 3: mouthpiece of being able to do it, and he's definitely
- 30:07Speaker 3: their friend in that regard. I am fascinated to see
- 30:11Speaker 3: how much more money they could make, though. How much
- 30:15Speaker 3: more can we go? How much further can we go
- 30:18Speaker 3: than the Seahawks, the team that just won the Super Bowl?
- 30:20Speaker 3: getting sold for $ 10 billion.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Is there a cap to any of it? And there's
- 30:24Speaker 2: a sense where they feel Teflon because of all the
- 30:26Speaker 2: things you mentioned last segment, Drew, about all the things
- 30:28Speaker 2: they survived, and Billy, you said it too. Not to mention,
- 30:31Speaker 2: we never mentioned the, you know, like whatever you want
- 30:35Speaker 2: to call it, the Colin Kaepernick, that whole era of like,
- 30:38Speaker 2: People saying the NFL is going woke and everyone claiming
- 30:41Speaker 2: they were going to stop watching. Nobody stopped watching. I mean,
- 30:43Speaker 2: nobody did. And the NFL knows that. So there's a
- 30:47Speaker 2: segment of fans that say, I don't want that much change.
- 30:50Speaker 2: I don't want to go international. I don't like that.
- 30:53Speaker 2: But Goodell knows and the NFL knows they're going to
- 30:55Speaker 2: play chicken with fans to see how much they'll tolerate
- 30:57Speaker 2: if you think you don't like it because they know
- 30:59Speaker 2: you'll still watch. And they know it'll still be the
- 31:01Speaker 2: most popular product. And the reality is it will.
- 31:04Speaker 3: Before we take a quick time, I want to give
- 31:06Speaker 3: a game ball to our old friend Matt Schneidman.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Oh, okay. What up, Matt? Let's go. This kid is
- 31:13Speaker 2: a star!
- 31:13Speaker 3: Very cool story he put up at The Athletic about
- 31:16Speaker 3: Tucker Craft and his remarkable rise to the NFL stardom
- 31:21Speaker 3: from Timberlake to Titletown. And when the line is from Timberlake,
- 31:27Speaker 3: South Dakota... and goes through a bunch of different conversations
- 31:30Speaker 3: with Tucker's family, people that he grew up with, some
- 31:35Speaker 3: great investigative reporting, and our boy Matt Schneidman gassing up
- 31:40Speaker 3: the car and getting himself to Timberlake, South Dakota.
- 31:42Speaker 4: He went?
- 31:44Speaker 3: Video of him standing outside of the eight-man football field
- 31:47Speaker 3: in South Dakota. Nobody does that anymore. So, game ball
- 31:50Speaker 3: to our friend Matt Schneidman. And also, game ball to
- 31:53Speaker 3: Schneid's for the video. The hair looks phenomenal in the video.
- 31:58Speaker 3: That's an eight-and-a-half-hour drive and a perfectly coiffed hairdo in
- 32:02Speaker 3: that video.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Well done by our boy Schneidman. And that is a
- 32:05Speaker 2: long drive. The Dakotas, and there's not much going on
- 32:08Speaker 2: in that drive, so you have to cross Minnesota. Well done.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Well done. Sadly, you don't have to go through Iowa
- 32:12Speaker 2: and Nebraska. Yeah, that's fair. That's the only way it
- 32:14Speaker 2: could be worse. Yeah.
- 32:16Speaker 3: The only thing that would make it worse. Minnesota's a
- 32:19Speaker 3: tough state to get through, but it's at least a
- 32:22Speaker 3: little hilly. At least there's something to be able to see.
- 32:24Speaker 3: You go through Iowa, you know, oh, sweet. It's just
- 32:26Speaker 3: boredom central.
- 32:26Speaker 2: More corn. Yeah. More corn. Hey, look, there's some more corn.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Truck stop. Sorry, Dolph.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Love it, love it, love it. Dolph is not with
- 32:35Speaker 1: us today. He'll be back on, what, Thursday?
- 32:38Speaker 2: Thursday. Veteran move by Dolph.
- 32:39Speaker 1: No doubt. Hook it over and make it a super
- 32:41Speaker 1: long week.
- 32:42Speaker 2: That was very, very well done.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Good call on his part.
- 32:44Speaker 2: He knows.
- 32:45Speaker 1: All right. When we come back, we'll close up shop.
- 32:47Speaker 1: We'll tie up any loose ends. Covered a lot of
- 32:49Speaker 1: ground today, which is good. Keeping an eye on everything
- 32:52Speaker 1: that's happening. We've got the smashing together of the seasons.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Before you know it, the Bucs are going to be
- 32:56Speaker 1: in camp. The Admirals will be dropping the puck. It's
- 32:58Speaker 1: going to be like, you know.
- 33:00Speaker 2: It is going to be very quick. You're right. All
- 33:02Speaker 2: of a sudden, wait a second, hockey and basketball started?
- 33:05Speaker 1: Summer's over, and it makes me feel sad, but someone
- 33:07Speaker 1: pointed out that we had the longest summer possible because
- 33:11Speaker 1: Memorial Day was as early as it could be, and
- 33:14Speaker 1: Labor Day was as late as it could be, so
- 33:16Speaker 1: we had the longest... I like that.
- 33:18Speaker 2: We got to enjoy and made it the best summer ever.
- 33:20Speaker 2: It felt short for me.
- 33:22Speaker 1: It did, man.
- 33:23Speaker 2: Well, that's a defeat. It always does.
- 33:25Speaker 1: I feel like we got cheated.
- 33:26Speaker 2: Well, the yellow jackets are still out. If you want
- 33:28Speaker 2: to feel like summer, you get your booty stung by
- 33:31Speaker 2: those yellow jackets out there, man. Be careful. Love it.
- 33:34Speaker 2: All right. Be careful. Be careful.
- 33:37Speaker 1: Be careful.
- 33:39Speaker 2: All right.
- 33:40Speaker 1: Back to close up shop next.
- 33:41Speaker 2: You're in the huddle.
- 33:42Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin. Drew Billion-Armond, time to wrap things
- 33:48Speaker 1: up on a Tuesday that feels like a Monday as
- 33:50Speaker 1: we are heading headlong into this delicious season of baseball
- 33:57Speaker 1: wrapping up and football just dawning the new season.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Just getting in there, baby.
- 34:01Speaker 1: Packers-Vikings coming up on Sunday at U.S. Bank Stadium. It's
- 34:06Speaker 1: getting close, Billy, but it still seems far away.
- 34:08Speaker 2: I was going to say, now this is the worst,
- 34:10Speaker 2: but this is like December 21st. The longest week of
- 34:12Speaker 2: the year. Where now you just have to sit.
- 34:14Speaker 3: Here and wait and wait and wait, and you know
- 34:17Speaker 3: those presents are already wrapped, and you just can't wait
- 34:19Speaker 3: to rip them open.
- 34:20Speaker 1: You get the snacketizers because of the Wednesday and Thursday games,
- 34:23Speaker 1: which means Red Zone won't be that compelling, or as
- 34:26Speaker 1: compelling as it would be the Initial foray into the
- 34:28Speaker 1: red zone because we lost a couple of games.
- 34:30Speaker 2: Scott Hanson's day is a little lighter there on Sunday.
- 34:33Speaker 3: No, this is almost like the Thanksgiving slate with how
- 34:36Speaker 3: many of them end up getting.
- 34:37Speaker 2: Knocked off there. That's a good point, yeah.
- 34:39Speaker 1: So Bill and I are just chatting off the air.
- 34:41Speaker 1: A last minute kick to the balls because we do
- 34:43Speaker 1: kick to the balls on days when we don't have
- 34:44Speaker 1: a Monday show to ESPN and they're talking head-to-head.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Great council is pacing in the Cubs dugout.
- 34:51Speaker 1: Because now that they're no longer in business with the
- 34:54Speaker 1: Big Ten, every panelist I've seen has gone scorched earth
- 34:58Speaker 1: on the end of the Western Michigan game.
- 35:00Speaker 2: The greatest travesty that we've ever seen.
- 35:03Speaker 1: But when they were cashing checks and in business with
- 35:06Speaker 1: the Big Ten, they never would have said that.
- 35:07Speaker 2: It would have been mums the word. It's crazy. It's
- 35:09Speaker 2: crazy what money will.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Do, huh? How it just turns the tide.
- 35:12Speaker 2: People know where their bread is buttered. I mean, and
- 35:14Speaker 2: this is a situation, too, where they know they're going
- 35:16Speaker 2: to have a lot of support. You know, they have
- 35:18Speaker 2: a plausible case. Well, that's, of course, it's a hot button.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Where everybody loves the under, even if you don't care
- 35:25Speaker 1: about Michigan, like, Ohio State fans predisposed to squawk. But
- 35:30Speaker 1: if you don't care about Michigan at all, you're just
- 35:32Speaker 1: going to cheer for the underdog, and the underdog got screwed.
- 35:34Speaker 3: Yes, and you watch it, and you can't believe that
- 35:36Speaker 3: that happens. Right, and then this one, it's, well, listen,
- 35:39Speaker 3: this is the biggest affront that any organization has ever
- 35:43Speaker 3: put out there. I think Orlowski called it the most
- 35:46Speaker 3: embarrassing win of all time yesterday. So they try to
- 35:49Speaker 3: make the mark on it. I just, I can't fathom
- 35:54Speaker 3: how you found the second, but it's crazy what you
- 35:57Speaker 3: can find when you're looking for it.
- 35:59Speaker 2: Right?
- 36:00Speaker 3: Like, I mean, it's almost like when, you know, somebody
- 36:03Speaker 3: maybe takes somebody else's phone and amazingly, you're going to
- 36:06Speaker 3: find the message on there that broke the camel's back.
- 36:09Speaker 3: And now we're going to break up because he was
- 36:11Speaker 3: texting her or she was texting him.
- 36:14Speaker 2: You were the one looking in there. You were looking
- 36:15Speaker 2: for something.
- 36:16Speaker 3: They went and started reviewing that while the celebration is
- 36:19Speaker 3: already happening on the field. They were finding something. Those
- 36:23Speaker 3: folks in the back were finding something. Hey, I think
- 36:25Speaker 3: we can hold on. All I got, I got a
- 36:28Speaker 3: Canva premium account. So what we can do is we
- 36:31Speaker 3: can just crop two pictures next to each other and
- 36:33Speaker 3: it'll totally look like the game clock that we actually have.
- 36:37Speaker 2: And the guy who just touches out of bounds.
- 36:39Speaker 5: Boom.
- 36:40Speaker 2: Perfect. Put a second on the clock and one more chance.
- 36:43Speaker 2: We got it. We have it. Finally.
- 36:45Speaker 3: What a frustrating, frustrating game. However, great way for college
- 36:49Speaker 3: football to start.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it was a big explosion of entertainment.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Gotta have some controversy to start it up. And honestly,
- 36:58Speaker 2: you thought that game would give you nothing, so it
- 37:00Speaker 2: was nice that you got something from it. It's like
- 37:02Speaker 2: there were some really awful games all weekend. I mean,
- 37:06Speaker 2: let's be honest. There were some real terrible matchups and terrible,
- 37:11Speaker 2: like a lot of 55-3s and stuff like that, so hey,
- 37:14Speaker 2: you got something out of that one you didn't think
- 37:15Speaker 2: you were going to get, which was talking points, entertainment, controversy, excitement.
- 37:21Speaker 2: The thing that'll keep Western Michigan up at night, and
- 37:23Speaker 2: I'm sure it does, is they know all that stuff, notwithstanding,
- 37:27Speaker 2: they still could have won it if they stopped at
- 37:28Speaker 2: Hail Mary, and they couldn't do it. And that's going
- 37:30Speaker 2: to That's going to keep you up at night because
- 37:35Speaker 2: that was your shot to have the all-time win, have
- 37:39Speaker 2: the picture up in the athletic department, have the story,
- 37:41Speaker 2: have the reunion. Oh, you put that picture up in
- 37:44Speaker 2: the athletic department. When you're Western Michigan, if you beat
- 37:47Speaker 2: the U at one point, that's an all-time moment. Do
- 37:51Speaker 2: you put the.
- 37:53Speaker 3: I put a picture of it up in the facility
- 37:55Speaker 3: because I'm having the conversation about it every time a
- 37:58Speaker 3: recruit comes in.
- 37:59Speaker 2: Could they declare themselves victors like us?
- 38:02Speaker 3: Like South Florida or Central Florida? Central Florida did. The
- 38:05Speaker 3: Mac tried to. The Mac's commissioner kind of came out
- 38:08Speaker 3: and like, no, this is an injustice.
- 38:10Speaker 2: Like, all right, bud, sorry. We'll watch you on Tuesday
- 38:13Speaker 2: and Wednesday. We consider ourselves.
- 38:15Speaker 3: This will be the last we talk about Western Michigan
- 38:17Speaker 3: until you watch him in a great Tuesday night class.
- 38:20Speaker 2: I do miss the days of college football where you
- 38:22Speaker 2: could claim things. Claim national titles.
- 38:26Speaker 1: In the Big Ten, Rutgers, debacle, Michigan, near debacle. Everything
- 38:30Speaker 1: else kind of went chalky. Very chalky, yes. And that's
- 38:34Speaker 1: like Purdue beating Indiana State. Teams took care of business.
- 38:37Speaker 1: That's what I want to see Wisconsin do.
- 38:40Speaker 2: Beat down.
- 38:40Speaker 3: You don't want to have the Boise State-Oregon deal. You
- 38:44Speaker 3: can't be in a struggling halftime.
- 38:47Speaker 1: No, you can't be. But the Big Ten didn't drape
- 38:50Speaker 1: itself in glory at Wrigley Field over the weekend either.
- 38:54Speaker 2: Not necessarily. Not much.
- 38:56Speaker 1: They had a whole bunch of volleyball action holstered up.
- 39:00Speaker 2: 40,000 people. Way to go, Wrigley. Can't play it. Way
- 39:04Speaker 2: to go, Wrigley. Not going to be able to reschedule that.
- 39:06Speaker 2: Thanks for coming.
- 39:08Speaker 1: Remind you of Marquette going on a cruise ship to
- 39:10Speaker 1: play or a battleship.
- 39:11Speaker 2: Marquette was going to play on the, on the carrier
- 39:13Speaker 2: against Ohio, San Diego or something like that. It was
- 39:16Speaker 2: in Ohio state and the court was too slippery. It
- 39:19Speaker 2: was too slippery. The condensation. Now, at least there's an
- 39:22Speaker 2: explanation there. That was a unique setting. Obviously. I mean,
- 39:27Speaker 2: you can, yeah, sure. Totally. Yeah. You can defend that.
- 39:30Speaker 2: i mean it's not a it's not a boat speaking
- 39:32Speaker 2: of what about this one i mean condensation though it
- 39:35Speaker 2: was funny watching kind of a neutral site game at
- 39:38Speaker 2: lambo with both teams appearing to slip around and Not
- 39:41Speaker 2: getting the right cleats. Matt LaFleur not happy about it.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Not happy about the wear and tear on the field.
- 39:46Speaker 1: Like, well, yeah, but why didn't you give him a
- 39:49Speaker 1: heads up of what cleats to wear? Because you see
- 39:51Speaker 1: that every night game at Lambeau with the opposing team
- 39:55Speaker 1: switching cleats and slipping around on key plays.
- 39:57Speaker 3: You got to help the boys out. You got to
- 39:59Speaker 3: send that thing over to Coach Fick. You got to
- 40:00Speaker 3: have that one dialed in. I will say the most
- 40:03Speaker 3: excited reaction on postgame was, I don't know if you
- 40:08Speaker 3: guys noticed, No vest from Coach Fickle.
- 40:11Speaker 2: I noticed. Yeah, we buried the lead on that one.
- 40:13Speaker 2: No vest.
- 40:14Speaker 3: We did have team written on the sleeve.
- 40:18Speaker 2: I think that was a lot more subtle, a lot
- 40:20Speaker 2: better for T-E-A-M. But no vest. That's big news. No vest. Big.
- 40:24Speaker 2: A lot of people thought that was why they had
- 40:25Speaker 2: a chance in the first half.
- 40:26Speaker 1: That was huge.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Huge. It was huge. Huge for the program. I actually
- 40:30Speaker 2: missed that. That's a pretty good observation.
- 40:32Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty good. All right, we covered so much ground today.
- 40:34Speaker 1: We're a day closer to Packers-Vikings. Miz, tonight, we'll be
- 40:37Speaker 1: talking about that. Tomorrow as well. We had a perfect
- 40:40Speaker 1: game in AAA. Thanks to everybody who hung out with
- 40:43Speaker 1: us today. Getting back after it. Getting into the routine
- 40:45Speaker 1: now of having interesting things to talk about on the daily.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Back into school then. Come on now. We'll see you
- 40:52Speaker 2: tomorrow at 5. Peace!