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SMNTY Reflects on 2023 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome with stuff
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  Speaker 1: I've never told you your production for iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome to our second full episode of the year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna start counting down and I'm kidding because
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna forget all the numbers. But this is our
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  Speaker 2: second one. But we wanted to take some time before
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  Speaker 2: we really really jump into all of the deep research
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  Speaker 2: and profound information we love to share, especially about Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars and or my K dramas, to reflect on twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three, because no matter what we have gone through,
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  Speaker 2: is good to think back and think about the progress
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  Speaker 2: we've made in our growth as not only podcasters, not
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  Speaker 2: only women, but also just as people in general who
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  Speaker 2: are surviving.
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  Speaker 3: Am I right? Yes, yes, you are.
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  Speaker 2: So with that. We're not. You know, We've decided to
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  Speaker 2: stop trying to do predictions, which others will will do
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  Speaker 2: and we're happy for them, because our last attempt felt
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  Speaker 2: like we may have cursed ourselves and we don't want
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  Speaker 2: to do that again. We don't want to do that again.
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  Speaker 2: But we did want to talk about this past year
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  Speaker 2: and talk about our phase of the year and what
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  Speaker 2: we hope for the future, and hopefully we'll hear from
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  Speaker 2: you all to let us know what you would like
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  Speaker 2: from us, because we would not exist without you faithfully
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  Speaker 2: listening and tuning in and then letting us know what
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  Speaker 2: you think is good, bad, and better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah, just what you want to hear. We do.
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  Speaker 1: Make a lot of content in a year because as
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  Speaker 1: a part of this, we're focusing very specifically on like
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  Speaker 1: the podcast specifically because we meant to do that, and
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  Speaker 1: one of our final episodes of the year, and then
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  Speaker 1: we just talked about the book the whole time, which
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  Speaker 1: is great, but so this is more podcast focused. But
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  Speaker 1: I was going back over all the episodes we had
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  Speaker 1: done in twenty twenty three and if they just cover
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  Speaker 1: the gamut of so many things, which is great. I
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  Speaker 1: love that we have this room to cover all of
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  Speaker 1: these topics and try new things like the fiction, our
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  Speaker 1: new segments. But it is a lot of content. So
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of difficult to narrow down some favorites.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was I definitely because like, also, I can't room them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had to go back and read through things.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we did that this year. I
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  Speaker 4: thought that was a year before last yes, that was
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  Speaker 4: a lot of that. For me too, it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that was last year. Okay, souse, technically this will be
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  Speaker 4: my fifth year.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: On this podcast. March was the beginning of me coming
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  Speaker 2: in here saying that I'm gonna stay March twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: To specify, yes, you can't just say March.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you're correct, meaning that that would be my five
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  Speaker 2: year anniversary. And just in case you were confused, because
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  Speaker 2: you might not be listening specifically in this year, it
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  Speaker 2: is January twelfth, twenty twenty four as we're recording this,
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  Speaker 2: So forgetting that podcast exists online forever and not this
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  Speaker 2: is not a radio show.
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  Speaker 3: No confuse sometimes yes, but.
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  Speaker 2: With that, yes, I do want to take some time
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  Speaker 2: to reflect, and I thought we would do a whole
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  Speaker 2: like what were your phase, what do you remember? What
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  Speaker 2: do you have to do? Blah blah blah. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to start off with the obvious. What was your
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  Speaker 2: top three favorite episodes of the year?
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  Speaker 1: Annie, Okay, Well, I think this is really funny because
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  Speaker 1: I'm very biased obviously with some of them. The Last
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  Speaker 1: of Us Special I put part one because that was
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  Speaker 1: the start of it and at the time we didn't
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  Speaker 1: know it was going to become And so if you
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  Speaker 1: go back and listen to that one, it wasn't clear
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  Speaker 1: yet that we were going to do kind of recaps
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  Speaker 1: after I clear to me, it was not clear to me.
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  Speaker 1: But I loved it. I loved it that I got
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  Speaker 1: to do that for work. That was so fun. And
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  Speaker 1: I sound like a child when I say this, but
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  Speaker 1: when I get excited about something, I get so excited
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  Speaker 1: that sometimes I can feel sick. And you heard me
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  Speaker 1: talk about that recently, where I actually thought I was
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  Speaker 1: getting sick.
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  Speaker 3: From how excited I was from blasphemo.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, every pre episode, every pre watching, you're nauseous and
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  Speaker 2: sick and pacing.
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  Speaker 1: You are pacing, Yes, And I've done that since I
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  Speaker 1: was a kid. It feels I feel a little ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: now that it's still happens, but it does still happen.
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  Speaker 1: And like right now, Samantha knows, I'm giving her all
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  Speaker 1: updates about what's going on with the casting of season
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  Speaker 1: two and they're about to start filming it.
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  Speaker 3: I just get so excited. But it was just.
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  Speaker 1: For a lot of reasons. It was special to me,
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  Speaker 1: But I never thought it would happen. I didn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: when I played the game, which I in part played
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  Speaker 1: because of this show, because it was like an episode
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  Speaker 1: Kristen Caroline did about women protagonists and video games. I
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  Speaker 1: never thought it was gonna be a show, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think it's gonna be a good show, and then
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  Speaker 1: it was a good show and I got to do
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  Speaker 1: a podcast about it, like oh Man.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of which Nick Offerman won and Emmy four his
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  Speaker 2: performances he.
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  Speaker 1: Did, so did Storm read. Yes, they really cleaned up
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  Speaker 1: at the first round of the Emmys. They were doing
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  Speaker 1: the Emmys different this year because of the strikes, So
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  Speaker 1: I believe this weekend is like the big Oh Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I was really confused about that because I saw like
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  Speaker 2: lineups of like the nominations and I was like, wait.
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  Speaker 1: What, Yeah, they're doing it differently this year from what
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  Speaker 1: I understand, And I don't want to say the big
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  Speaker 1: because that sounds like what they did. Yes, but they're
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  Speaker 1: splitting it up basically from what I gather.
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  Speaker 3: But I believe it's this weekend, so we'll see. We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: But that, yes, that was one of my big ones,
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  Speaker 1: that whole mini series, but I just went with the
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  Speaker 1: first one. The episode we did making space for being
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  Speaker 1: ace because I feel like this year I really connected
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  Speaker 1: with this label. I really settled with this identity. I
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  Speaker 1: feel good about it in a way that like, I
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  Speaker 1: had still been questioning so many things before, but this
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  Speaker 1: year I really was like, Okay, no, this is it.
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  Speaker 3: I like this.
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  Speaker 1: And that was when that was an episode we did
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  Speaker 1: where I just learned so much and it was one
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  Speaker 1: of the first times I had done it. I had
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  Speaker 1: done research on something like that after being pretty like
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  Speaker 1: set in how I identify, So it was just like
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  Speaker 1: a really it was kind of upsetting, but it was
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  Speaker 1: also really I didn't feel I didn't feel so isolated
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  Speaker 1: or alone. I was like, oh, no, this makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: this makes sense, this makes sense. So that was a
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  Speaker 1: really special one for me. And then again getting sick
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  Speaker 1: about things I like to talk about so much what
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: Scream has to say about tech and media that we
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: did with Bridget. So I think we've described this before,
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  Speaker 1: but Bridget usually the day of like sends an outline,
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  Speaker 1: so sometimes we don't know necessarily what we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: our toes.
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  Speaker 3: I do get.
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  Speaker 1: Nervous because I'm like, oh, well, like, how intense is
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  Speaker 1: this going to be? Like, what are we going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about what mind space do I need to
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  Speaker 1: be in? And I remember when I got like an
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  Speaker 1: hour before we came on this outline. I was so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can hear it in that episode. I'm
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  Speaker 1: like shaking, I'm so excited. And it was so fun
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  Speaker 1: because like a lot of times for this and I
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  Speaker 1: think this is a great thing, but we we researched
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  Speaker 1: a lot of what we talk about, which that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of our brand, that's what we want to do. But
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  Speaker 1: it was fun to be on the side of something
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  Speaker 1: where I've done this research, Like I was ready.
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  Speaker 2: Ready not only has she done this research, but what
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  Speaker 2: she says, she's done this research. It's been ten years
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  Speaker 2: in the making and doing this research.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, it was just so fun and I
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  Speaker 1: got to be like I got to completely nerd out
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  Speaker 1: about it about like, well you haven't seen the fourth one,
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  Speaker 1: We'll let me tell you about this. Like it was
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  Speaker 1: just a joy that I wasn't expecting, and yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was. I was on top of the world during that.
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  Speaker 3: It was quite fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: If you go back and listen to it, just keep
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  Speaker 1: it like I think you can hear it, But I
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: was excited. I felt we got a bad because I
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: was like, am I taking over this episode's Bridges episode No?
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  Speaker 1: And then just a couple a couple of honorable mentions
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  Speaker 1: for me our fiction terminus, our ongoing fiction. The first
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  Speaker 1: part had the final chapter, and I just felt like
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  Speaker 1: that was a big I was like, oh, I've closed
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  Speaker 1: the chapter in this book as they say. It just
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: felt like an accomplishment and I love doing those in
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  Speaker 1: Christina makes them so amazing. The episode I did when
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: Fandom Hurts, I just want to shut that one out
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  Speaker 1: because so many people write into me about that one,
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  Speaker 1: and I almost didn't do it because I was embarrassed
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that was a pretty big deal for me.
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  Speaker 1: And people are still talking about that, not just because
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: of what I said, but I see it online. Ongoing
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: conversation Women's Soccer with Whitney, my friend Whitney, because that
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: was really cool that we get to do that with
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  Speaker 1: her speaking of someone who doesn't really need to do
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  Speaker 1: the research.
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  Speaker 3: Just knows it.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: And then digging into the exiles of Lauren and Vegas
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: because we were in a box in Vegas and this
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: was when the Samantha couldn't come do you just scheduling conflicts.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren was kind and stepped in and it was really fun.
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  Speaker 1: But it was also just a memorable thing that happened
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  Speaker 1: in the year.
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  Speaker 2: That adventure. I'm glad I missed, Like I wish I
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: could have just been someone could have videotaped the interactions
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  Speaker 2: that happened there, because everything else is like, no, I
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: don't want to deal with any of that stress. But
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: it was it sounded like such an amazing adventure to
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  Speaker 2: have a story about, Like it's the story to tell.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And uh, you know, I have one of those
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  Speaker 1: digital frames and I put the pictures from that trip
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  Speaker 1: on there, and every now and then I'll look up
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  Speaker 1: and I see me in a glass box.
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  Speaker 3: What a strange job.
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  Speaker 2: Such a weird It's such an odd, odd way to
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  Speaker 2: like be like, this is my job. Yep, okay, I
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  Speaker 2: love it. Well, my you know what, I'm kind of
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: cheating as you cheated with your honorable mentions, as you
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  Speaker 2: typically do, because honestly, I think when we whenever we
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  Speaker 2: do any interview and whenever we have a guest on
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: our show, I learned so much and I just like
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: thrive on the conversations that we have and then leading,
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: and this includes being with Bridget and Ease, who are
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: our monthly segment and are part of the fam. But
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: just this conversation and having a detailed look instead of
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  Speaker 2: just researching, like having a deep dive into personals in
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  Speaker 2: a person's activism or in a person's interest or whatever
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  Speaker 2: their research or something that's important to them. I love
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  Speaker 2: those conversations so much. So I've definitely had to put
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: on the interview with Rika Lebon, who is the Iranian
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  Speaker 2: activists that have been working so hard and she's currently
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: I believe in the US as a lawyer here, and
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: her conversation was so in depth and so important to
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: talk about the things that were happening in Iran. There's
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  Speaker 2: so much that's happened this year, and talking with her
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: and then talking with like Daris dark Tucker and her
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: conversations even about like the religious stuff, and I was like, what, Yeah,
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: was a phenomenal conversation. Of course, gotcha. Junie Fox who
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: came in and talked about her her community and the
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  Speaker 2: First People's Nations and what they're doing and how they're
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: keeping their culture alive still in language and documentary and
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: all the things she's doing about the food. I'm really
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: excited to follow up on that. To be honest, stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that that, when we get to meet people who
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  Speaker 2: are changing the world or preserving history or you know,
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  Speaker 2: making history, it is some of my favorite moments to
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  Speaker 2: see and to have a conversation about when they dig
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: into something that they love. I thrive on that, like
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: I feed off that energy. I'm that energy vampire on
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: that one, because I'm like, yes, give me more, talk
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: to me more about this, and I hope we get
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: to have that for later. And of course that's really
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: later part of the segment. But so those two really
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: stuck out to me.
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  Speaker 3: Those three.
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  Speaker 2: The episode about the fanzines, I really it was so
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  Speaker 2: nostalgia that when I went through that list, I was like, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: this was so good because I love that it's coming
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  Speaker 2: back and that people are remembering how important things like
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  Speaker 2: this is, especially when we talk about how corrupt social
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  Speaker 2: media can be and how all of our algorithms can
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: be seeing things that are fake, like having something like
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  Speaker 2: this that is kind of still underground, it reminded me
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  Speaker 2: of that once upon a time, I want to be
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  Speaker 2: really punk. I was never punked, but man, because I
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  Speaker 2: was kind of a part of that scene. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm cool, that's right. Was I ever in those?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: But did I like them and purchased them?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: But that was a really fun episode to me, And
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  Speaker 2: of course our Haunted House episode in which we have
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: a back and forth and I lose my mind a
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: little bit in our conversations and you lose your mind
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: a little bit. And then the fact that we did
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  Speaker 2: a one day adventure literally flying for one day two
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  Speaker 2: days to La so that you can fulfill your dream
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  Speaker 2: of going to bow haunted houses, which I loved every
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: bit of it. I can't It was a fun episode too.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: We go through that, and I want to listen to
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  Speaker 2: it because I'm pretty sure I'm a bit astraumatized.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, it was very I was thinking about this
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  Speaker 1: the other day because again I get so excited. Samantha
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  Speaker 1: is like the best of all friends you could ever want,
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  Speaker 1: because I wanted to go. It was the last of
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  Speaker 1: us hunted house, and i'd heard the one i'd been to,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: the one in Florida, and i'd heard the one in
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: California was different. And then that happened to me when
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: I was in Las Vegas, and I was like that's
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: a pretty quick fight. I can just hop over there.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: And then Samantha of course came and even though she
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't like haunted houses, but I was so excited once again.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember we did that video at the end
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  Speaker 1: where it was like the before and the after. I like,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: we know, I don't think we did, but it was
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  Speaker 1: really funny because I was at the beginning. I was
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  Speaker 1: so excited. At the end, I was so I remember saying,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: I think it was the recording. I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: am I supposed to have a different reaction?
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  Speaker 3: No, you have yours. It was more for me because
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I was like wow, I was like, uh, is the
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  Speaker 3: point of the videos supposed to be like a very big.
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  Speaker 2: Difference, Yes, for one of us at least, and it
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  Speaker 2: was for me. It's kind of like because we did
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: the last of Us reaction, Yeah, a really sad episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And so that as it was supposed to, which we
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: there's so many trends we have not done. We've let
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: our TikTok kind of just die. We need to get
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: back to that, I guess, yeah, okay. And then because
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  Speaker 2: we also have our beloved segment of feminist movies Fridays
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, days we decide to publish or what days
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: you wanted to listen. We had to pick out the
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  Speaker 2: favorite movie of the year, like, it doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: be from that year, just what we watched in that year.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, well I mine is across the Spider Verse.
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  Speaker 1: It was a Spoiled Saturday, so it counts. I think
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  Speaker 1: it counts.
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  Speaker 2: It counts, yes, I'll count it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, which is again was another fun one where I
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: got to really nerd out about like what canon and
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: fan and then headcanon are and I love I love
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  Speaker 1: those movies. They're some of my very favorites. They're actually back.
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  Speaker 1: This movie is coming back in theaters this weekend. Really, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I think they're doing. I'm sure it's because it's award
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  Speaker 1: season probably somewhere I related, but I just know it's
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  Speaker 1: back in theaters this weekend. And that makes sense if
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: anyone happens to listen to it the day it comes
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: out and you're like, oh, I'll go, then it's.
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  Speaker 3: An Imax not a sponsor.
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  Speaker 2: But ye at the beginning, yes, none of these are
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  Speaker 2: her sponsors.
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  Speaker 1: No no, no, but there was really fine when we
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: can The Spoiled Saturdays are always fine. I love movies
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  Speaker 1: in general, so I'm always yeah, pretty happy, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was that was a standout for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I picked two that were nostalgic to me, and
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  Speaker 2: honestly because I loved your reaction on one of them,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: which was Twilight, and we really I think we really
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: missed the mark on that one because we should have
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: had Christina, our super producer, on there because she loved
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: it and it would have been her age group that
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: was the diehard. Don't get me wrong, I liked it, obviously,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I did, so I'm not saying anything about that, but like,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: oh man, she had a whole email or.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Don't throw Christina the bus like that.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I got to because I want her on. I'm just
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: telling you like her love for this, but not only that,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Like I do want to go back because I think
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: they are now back online. I don't know why they
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: went off this marketing thing whatever. Y'all are driving me crazy.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Stop being so capitalist, Like, let us watch our movies anyway.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: But I think the the later ones, the sequels are
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: on now on all of the streaming so I feel
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: like maybe this should be a giant episode and we
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: definitely have to have Christina on for that, so that's just,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you know, a future thing. But I loved your reaction
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: and I can't wait to see the rest the last one.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Oh my, I'm so we have to do it. We
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: have to do it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I love when I almost chose that episode too, because
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I had a great time. It was really fun for
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: me to also be on the other side of like,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I know nothing about this. It's also really funny to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: me every time we do this to our wonderful super
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: producer Christina, who has not heard this plan yet, but
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: she shall.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Ordinating. Yes, oh yes, I hope this happens. But also
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I had to put in fried green tomatoes because it
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: is nostalgic to me. Watched it a long time ago.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I love making you watch things that I'm like, you
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: should have already watched us.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: What is wrong with you?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, but in my head. Because it's also
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: based in Georgia, so you know, it shines a lot.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like it definitely, And we talked about the controversies
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: of it all, and that's also important to me that
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: we have these continued conversations so that we don't make
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the same mistakes, or at least we recognize it and
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: have a call out for it or a call in
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: for them. We can love something, but we can also
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: say this was problematic and this is this is the
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: reason why. So I chose both of those, but very
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: nostalgic to me, and I'm sure there's gonna be so many.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I'm already excited about our new, our upcoming one because
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: it's one of those. I'm like, how have you not
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: watched this? And then I realized, because you know you're
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you were a cool girl. Also, I think it's a
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: little bit out of your age range, right.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about that one too, as you know,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: it's gonna help me with my fan fiction. This apparently
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of people right, fan fiction based on this film,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And you said what it is, but we're just gonna
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: tease it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have to wait.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: If you didn't hear that episode, yes.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, but I remember when it came out. I'm excited.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited to talk about it. I haven't seen
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: it yet, but I will obviously watch it soon.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: So our next thing, of course, following the movies, would
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: be the books, our feminist book Club. What did you pick?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I chose gender Queer because yeah, yeah, And it was
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: another instance where I read it and I was like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I'm relating to this really hard. I'm kind of surprised
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: about how much I'm relating to it. I think about
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it pretty often. It's still unfortunately in the news a
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: lot when it comes to banning. Yes, but I just
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: loved it. I thought it was really sweet and I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: just personally was like, oh yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: That was me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: The vulnerability and things like that in books like these
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: are so important and so beautiful, and it definitely is
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: owed recognition for all of that. I actually picked The
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Goddess of Filth, and one of the reasons I picked
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I'd love a good dark kill, and this was one
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: of those that were was just good and it was
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: just like wow, it kind of had moments of me,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: like and I still think about specific scenes and specific
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: moments from that book now, Like as I was thinking
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: about this, I was like, yeah, oh yeah, like the
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: things that went through my head and just love kind
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of the depth of the darkness of it. And I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: was like, I need more of that. I need to
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: come to life. Not really because I'm kind of scared,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: but no, no, no, I possessed, but the Goddess of filth,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: but the tale so I could watch it per se.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: But I really did enjoy that book, and I really
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: felt like when we do a good fiction, especially in
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: this level, that I'm like, yeah, we need to recognize
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: it more and we need more. I need more of these.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I need more of these books.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that one was a close second for me.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I loved that book and it was really nice too.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: It's it was nice to read a shorter but very
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: like packs a lot in horror style book. I also
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: need more of those. I loved it because it feels
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: like the imagery was so good. I feel like I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: have already seen the movie, you know what I mean, Like.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: In my head, Yeah, it's imprints. Okay. Now that we've
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: kind of talked about some of our few of our
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: favorite things, we kind of wanted to take a moment
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: to talk about what we've learned or relearned in twenty
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: twenty three. Annie, what are some of the things that
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you have learned or relearned.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I did before I saw your answers. I wrote a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: lot about Twilight. Weeded this before my YEP, a lot
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: about religious trauma. We did that whole mini series this year,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: which I think We started in March and ended in December, so.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You know what a win is a win? We finished
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: in the year.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: No win is a win.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But that's just how long we've been talking about this.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like I learned a lot about divorce actually
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: through that. Through that, and then we've been we've been
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: looking at doing an episode on divorce and books. Yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: for a long time. We haven't done it, but I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: feel like I did a lot of research about it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: So with that and the religious trauma episode on divorce,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like I learned a lot. I did learn
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a lot about asexuality this year, especially from that episode
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I mentioned. We also when I was looking back over
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the episodes we did, we did a lot of tech
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: episodes this year. We started twenty twenty three with kind
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Of It wasn't an official mini series, but I think
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: once a week we had an episode about like YouTube,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: We had Twitter, AIBNB, COSA, Misinformation, VR, Spotify is docking, Yeah, TikTok,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: just to name a few. So I feel like I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: learned a lot about technology that's currently impacting our world
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and changing very very rapidly.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I felt like last year was a huge year for
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: like the growth of technology and different types of mediums.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: That has just blown up and it's become either accessible
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: or necessary.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and I'm sure we're gonna keep talking about that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I already have some some topic ideas around around things.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: But I also amazingly learned a lot about the Star
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Wars holiday special this year.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Who would have.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Thought it was possible, but I did. I learned a
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: lot about haunted houses. This was a big year for
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: haunted houses, for me, for you. I learned about the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: difference between podcasting and doing an audiobook. It's a very
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: different experience, and I it was reinforced to me the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: importance of having a good, supportive co host. You've always
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: been so supportive some of the like the episode when
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Fandom hurt you, you were so great, So thank you.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I will say also having you, I've thought about
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: this end of the day. I'm like, if you ever leave,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the show might end. I don't think I could pick
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: it up. And the way you have picked it up
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: and the way you have like like literally made this
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: entire platform into what we have essentially, like you created
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of this and the way it works and
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: how it's definitely still going because I think I would
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: have given up.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you saying that hopefully that won't happen,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: but it was lost.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: It was difficult. So I do appreciate you.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Because you do so much of the work and your
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: patients and you always constantly they are always constantly supportive.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: So yes, good. I just love that we're friends too. Yes,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about that the other I had this
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: like scenario in which I'm like, who would I invite
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: to these following things? And you're always the number one
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: on the list. Huh, yeah, my besties, mister who we
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: are besties. She's coming over to hang out with me
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: this weekend. I've already gotten food prepared, uh, because it's
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: been too long. But yeah, So for me, I learned
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: a little bit about the paramenopause thing I went through
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: and talk looking at through that and I'm now watching
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: every symptom that I have and now thinking maybe this
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: is very I really have to stop with this TikTok
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: thing because this messened me up. I think I have
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: learned about the Holiday special against my will in different
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: different scenarios. I've already been threatened to watch the documentary
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: of the holiday.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Well, so I am.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Both excited and both indifferent. I don't hate it, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I will be playing phone games during this time.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: That's fine.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I can probably clutch onto me and say, oh my god,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: this is amazing.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Did you see it?
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: And then tell me extra facts, which I'm I'm part
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: of my favorite part. Honestly. I learned a lot of
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: stuff about Korean feminism, and I was really excited because
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: we did a lot during the middle of the year
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: when we talked about what's happening with feminism in Korea
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and how bad has gotten as well as how well
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: has gotten. So like it's both this fight between people
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: being more understanding and open to feminism to all of
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: a sudden backtracking because the government is backtracking with them.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So it was really interesting, but also about like the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: women who are fighting super hard and the men, but
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: women uh to talk about women's rights. The feminists five
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: we talked about. I loved talking about them, and I
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: hope I can get more updates to see what's happening there.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And then also, of course we talked a lot about
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the romanicizing culture of Korea, which is really dangerous. When
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: we talked about dramas and K pop and some of
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: the implications of society as well as the unrealistic ideals
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: that have perpetuated from Korea, and with that has been
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: a huge money market for them because of TikTok and
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: things like that, with their Korean beauty items and products,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: which is based on unrealistic expectations. So I've learned a
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: lot about that good in the bed, I learned a
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: lot about the Last of Us, which I already knew
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: a big chunk because I have sat with Annie and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: my partner to have at least three good playthroughs, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I have to leave at least have like three times
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: out of the turn because it's too traumatic for me
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: that I can't watch this, So I have to leave
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: maybe four. How many times have y'all played through this
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: trying to remember you made me present?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I can. I've done at least I know.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: You've done many on your own, and I believe friend
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: of the show and friend in real life, Marissa and
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Katie are like, we want another one.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, oh, dear, yeah, we were talking about
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: that this this morning.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: They want to do a marathon at the show, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the people can't. People have a lot of thoughts about this,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: but the remaster of the second one is coming out.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: This is the twenty night, so I am going to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: replay it. But yeah, it's a it's an endeavor. It's
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: an endeavor emotional.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Again, so I've learned a lot. I have also learned
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: that I can handle haunted houses. Would I choose to no?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: But can I yes?
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: So there, yes you can.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And you know, with all of this, we I think
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: have been very transparent about things being stressful, things being overwhelming,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: any of that, and as part of what we do,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: we do want to talk about how we did or
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe didn't handle our stress this year and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: talk about it for a second.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny because when I was thinking about this,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I was remembering the episode we did previously the previous
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: year about the same thing, and I think most of
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it is the same stuff.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: But I don't know how to feel about that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: This is the year I started publishing fan fiction his
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: first time, and I've gotten a lot of comfort from that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: And honestly, it's like a I thought it was gonna be.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have a much more negative experience.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I thought I was going to get like really in
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: my head and people would say something that's kind of like,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: oh this wasn't for me, and I would spiral out,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: but Efferen's just so nice.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Now I'm worring. I'm getting like too big of an ego,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: too big of a fan fiction ego.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, games like The Last of Us, which some people
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: that blows their mind. They cannot understand why a game
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: that makes me like sob openly several times is something
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I do when I'm stressed. But I feel like it's cathartic.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, the world is really bad, let me
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: cry at something and it makes me feel I know
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it's not for everybody, trust me, but for me that
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: does help.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I do have to plan when I'm going to do it, though,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: especially certain scenes.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: But anyway, lots of soups, uh soft comfy clothes. I've
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: definitely caught myself more than I normally do this time,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: being like I just want to real something really soft. Yes,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: my favorite movies, games, music always. I got another Star
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: projector so now I have three and it's yes, the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: new one is very fancy stretching. I don't do it
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: as often as I should, but when I do it,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I'm always like you should really be doing this more.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Your body is tense, ca you sttch.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: It all this year, I'll sound of just exercising. Oh no,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: it's maybe I should put that in my list.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I try to do.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It if I'm watching you know, Star Wars with a
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: million sim would last, but I tried to do it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: When it's like, my if you're going to do this again,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: you better stretch.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Like it's a good reminder.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I did hang out with more people this year than
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I have since the pandemic, I would say, and it
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: was very fun. It was somewhat stressful, but I I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: do love hanging out with my friends, so it was
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: something that helped me release some stress. I got a
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: lot of good venting done. You know you're you'rech and wine.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: As you say, it was very hard thing.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I love of those. Yeah, I feel like I've reconnected
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: with a few of the friends that I haven't seen
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: or talked to them more of a regular. Two of
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: my friends, Ones and Halifax and ones in England, we
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: decided to get a actual thread going instead of each
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: of us just individually, so like we're actually communicating a
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: little more and I love that. Yeah, I missed them.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I need to see them all often, Hey Elizabeth, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: she doesn't listen to the show. Hey Michelle, she sometimes
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: listens to the show. Hey, I don't blame you for me.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I've been binging a lot of K drama, a lot
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: of K drama. I think that's almost all I've watched,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: even though recently I watched a lot of holiday movies
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: that were English speaking. The Holiday was in there, of course,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: because it came back on Netflix out of nowhere. For
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: a while, it wasn't on there, and then I'm like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: oh it's back.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Haha.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like it, jerks. I've been keeping the peace of
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: my mind just by just staying at home. I'm like
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: the whole new like I've always been good about, Yeah,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not coming and not trying to stretch my filt
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: self then in general, like I typically once upon a
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: time I used to do all that, but now it's
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: just more of like a maybe i'll come, maybe I
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: won't keeping everything real like Lucy Goosey unless it's like, oh,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: it's your birthday, I'm definitely coming out or something like that.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: But like, well sometimes I've definitely canceled on that to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I just thought of that. But like having moments of like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you know what, I really don't need to be out
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: right now. So I've been doing that and just again
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: sitting and watching kikrama. Uh, lots of texting and making
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: sure to keep up with my friends through texts. Yeah,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: that's it. Like so I have seen my friends, which
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: is nice, but like more so than I'm like, you
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna pop in with a hey, how
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: are you send a little gift and then move on. And
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: then I'd been doing still keeping up with my Zomba
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: and cardio jam, trying to be really cautious because it's
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: still it is. Covid is rampant, as well as all
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the other respiratory things that are happening, flu which has
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: hit my family pretty hard, all those things, but still
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: needing that again. I laughed because that was a TikTok
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: about calling Zoomba clubbing for the genetic ers or millennials.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, yeah, because you want to dance, but
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: you don't actually want to go out anywhere. This is
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: as close as it gets. And then of course the
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: phone games. I am no longer beefing with beefing with Anastasia,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and I want to fight her, but it's okay. I'm okay,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I'm okay. Clearly this is not stressful at all. As
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: well as my cozy games, which we talked you and
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I talked about, like we downloaded a couple of like
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: uh sequels to a few of the cozy games we played.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I haven't done it yet, but I'm excited because I
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: want to get back to it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't been able to. I haven't been able
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: to play them either, but I want to. Where does
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the time go?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just waste so much time watching k dramas
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: that you have to kind of pay attention to that.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Because I'm not fluent in Korean. I'm now packing up
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: a lot more probably not necessarily helpful phrases, but still
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I'm picking up a lot more. But h so you
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: have to actually read this subtitles. So I'm trying to
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: figure that out. Yeah, And I'm thinking overall, just trying
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to let go and try to think through any of
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the stressors about why I'm stressed, because oftentimes it can
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: be biological the anxiety that rises in me, and trying
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: to play through that as well and enjoying the fact that, yes,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I'm older. I don't love getting older. But I do
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: love being able to like be an adult and decide
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: for myself how it's going to go that day for
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of things, you know, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, let's
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: talk about what we hope for the new year, as
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: in like twenty twenty four. What are some of the
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: things you're hoping for, you're looking forward to any of
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: those things? And then I read your site, by the way,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this will be easy, and I
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: looked at your.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, Yeah, well it is a presidential year here
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: in the US. That's all I'm going to say about it. Yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot of us are very
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: we're waiting for it to really hit. How stressful that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: will be. So hopefully that will go the way that
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: we want.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: That the stressful, but for what's better.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: For what's better? Yes, that's all I'll say. About that
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: plague of cicadas. So I actually love cicadas. So it
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: sounds menacing. I'm sure for many of you it is.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Right as I read this what.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: So one of the first episodes I did when I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: started as an intern at what was then How Stuff Works,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So essentially like I've stayed in that position. Ish, it's
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: just the company has changed hands so many times, so
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: it's like I've never that has been my job. Like
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: it's hard to explain, but I so that's what I
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: was doing. At the time, I was editing podcasts, and
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: that's when no one really knew what podcasts were. One
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: of the first episodes I ever edited was on cicadas
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and how weird they are, and I had all these
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: cicada sound effects. But this year two broods. So okay,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: can I talk about cicadas for a second, right? Cicadas
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: come out every like thirteen years, three three years. It's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: very interesting biological clock they have. They're underground and then
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: thirteen years comes up and like brood whatever will come
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: out for that year, and they there's so many and
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: they make that sound to basically like it's kind of
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: amazing thing, but it's also there's so many of them
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: that the predators will be attracted to the weaker sound
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: so that they'll survive. Anyway, two of the broods this year.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: They're both prime numbers, but they're both gonna come out
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: this year because that's just how.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: It lined up.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: And it's rarer than like it's been like since the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, since this has happened.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: It's very very rare, Samantha.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: But this year they're coming out, and they're coming out
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: at the same time, so you're gonna see alessicadas.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you for this information. I'm glad to know, so
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not panicked. Also, to sound the way you're describing,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that was on a Supernatural episode.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: It's so cool.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: It's so bizarre.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about? You know what
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about?
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Not then is the one where they're the humans are
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: acting like cicadas. Oh oh, I think it's based on
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: a Mexican folklore.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Oh. Interesting.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gonna look at that. I could be wrong.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: It is very fun if you have any interest at all.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a poor job of explaining. How you know.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: You did a great job. I just don't like bugs,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: so fare I'm more horrified than anything else. But I think.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Somebody somebody sent it to me and they're like, oh no,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: And I was like, this is the coolest thing.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, I will stay inside. I'll stay inside.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely I'm going off the rails.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: But they back at my home in North Georgia. When
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the cicadas come out, they'll just blanket the walls the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: like the garage door, you would open it and it
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: would be cicadas. So I get it's not like the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: most fun comfortable thing. My cousin, who's from a family
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: of much more money than me, he came to stay
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: with us once and I told him about like you
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: got to check your shoes for scorpions, and then he
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, what is this? And then
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: that night he heard the cicadas and he called his
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: parents the next day and he was like, I can't
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: stay here.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: They are loud. They are really loud Georgia. They're so loud.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry about that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: In terms of the show specifically, I'm looking forward to.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I love the collabs we get to do. They do
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: make me nervous because I get intimidated, but I do
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: love them, so I hope that we get to do
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: more of that. Also, shout out to listener Lou who
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: came on our Sex and the.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: City was really fun.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: We're going to do that again, y'all going be as
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: elongated as you remember last time.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're going for it though, we'll get there. That
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: was really fun. We have discussed some of these clubs.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: We've talked about possibly doing some like live events. Not
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: that many, but yes, that would be fun. As mentioned
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: in a previous episode, I am interested in getting more
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: merch for the show, maybe going to some conferences. We
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: always have funny stories from them. Our Lazy River fiasco
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I will not soon forget, and I yeah, just continuing
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: to I love that we get to do so many
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: different things. I like that we have like our kind
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of segments that are ongoing, but then we also have
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: things where we get to try new things and things
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that's really fun.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I will say for myself, better work life balance. But
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I've been trying that for.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: A long time and I haven't succeeded, but I feel
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: like I'm getting a better idea of how I could
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: make it work.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: It's just because our jobs happen all the time. Yeah,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Like it's.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Like like I'll be lying awake at five am and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like in my head working and I think everybody
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: does that, so it's not like unique. But trying to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: find a way to maybe consolidate my work hours because
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: they're so spread out right now.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, working from home. What are you in jobs
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: like this? Working salaried a bit so much? I will
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: say when I worked at DJJ, I worked a lot,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: but I stopped. I was like, yeah, I'm done not
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: talking to you. I'm not doing this unless it's an emergency,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of course, but yeah, right, yes, yeah. I think for me,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: my hope for the new year would be that we
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: get more good news. More stories on how humanity still
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: exists would be lovely. I guess some of those sometimes
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and it's nice to see. I want more of those,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: and I'm hoping for more of those as this election
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: year is happening and so many huge things have happened. Unfortunately,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: the US is not looking pretty and then participating in
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: war crimes. So but you know, a turning out of
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: the tide where more and more people realize that the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: power we have or we can have over those who
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: have power based on wealth is something that I also
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: feel like could happen, especially with the fact that gen
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: zers are giving me so much more hope. Maybe it's
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: just seeing some of them coming through. I'm like, wow,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: y'all are way smarter than I was back then and
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: still am, and y'all are just like firing on all
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: cylinders and our activism to the tea and I love that,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and I love that more and more people of color
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: are coming out as leaders, and I mean that for
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the U like they're actually talking and being bold. I
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: love to see that. So I'm hoping that that will
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: grow and continue to grow because that is what we need. Uh. Yes,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: like I said before, like you said just now, more
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: collapse interviews are nerve wracking because I also get nervous,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you know, when I get really fangirly and I start
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: stuttering and talking very fast. But they're so good and
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: so informative, and I love hearing other people's perspective. It's
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: just it's always something fun. Like the one thing that
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I do miss out when I don't interact is learning
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: about people and learning about their their lives because it's
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: so interesting. People are interesting and what they love and
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: what they grow with or what they want to do
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: or how they what they've done is phenomenal. If they
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: left cicadas, even though I'm petified of this, I love
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: hearing about how excited you are about it, Like that's.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Best to an episode. Can we find a woman who's
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: like a specialist of cicadas.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's gonna be you and her. It's
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: gonna be I'm gonna be calling it sick. I'm just kidding.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: And then more in interaction with our listeners. Yes, we
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: do want to do another interactive Sex and the City watch.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe we could do something else. I don't know, because
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: we'd love to eat those, watching those and having a
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: conversation and good, good talks about what we've learned through
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: these episodes or since these episodes. I love that, and
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: having more of our listeners. Of course, we love the
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: listener mails when y'all send in things and tell us
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: about what's happening with you or something that you love
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: or something that you're learning. I love that so much
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: when we connect on something that we talk about, one
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: of my favorite things, honestly. And then also with our
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: fellow hosts and co workers. I'm hoping again, Yes, we're
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: doing bigger collabs, getting together in person, because I don't
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: think I'm seeing Christina or Maya or Joey, and like
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: you've never met Joey. I finally got to meet them. Yeah,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: in person, But I hope that we can all get
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: together at least once this year. It'd be nice. We'll
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: go to go to New York. Hey, Maya, can we
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: go to New York as Smithy trip?
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: And then also I would love to get together with
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Bridget We've talked about that, like repeatedly. You got to
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: see her in Las Vegas. I was very jealous of that,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: but also hanging out with Ease. I don't think we've
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: talked person to person. We've done of course the Skype stuff,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: but would love to get together with her, have another
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: cheesecake and champagne day. Ye lovely day.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I was thinking of it.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're hitting another milestone on the shide,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: but I think literally I think we.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Need I think we need to bring it in and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I guess we're could be at the studio because we
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: technically haven't seen it since it's been put together like that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I guess we should go do that, but also hoping
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: to bring in more people because we love as much
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: as I love me any of being together of like, oh,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: there's other people that work here that don't know I
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: work here, So having crossoverss is what I'm saying, more
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: so than anything else. Some people that out love that
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen in a long time, got to finally
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: see Lauren from also from Savor and brain stuff like
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: I want to do more of that.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And we had a great time with Lauren
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: on the Diehard episode and.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Fun time, so yeah, I would love that. I would
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: love that too.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And I have to say, like going back over all
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the episodes we did this year, it is true that
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: when we have guests like they generally I mean generally
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: sounds like I'm calling someone out. They like change my
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I'd like follow them on social media. I'm not on
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: social media a lot, but they do. I do it,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and it becomes like a part of my life. Like,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: so it is important and we love having that, and
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: we do love hearing from you listeners. You send so
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: many amazing things and put on our radar things I
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: hadn't known about, and I love it. So we definitely
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: want to know what you would like for this year.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Any suggestions, uh, what you'd like to see more of,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: less of, see you more, hear more of you know
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Because we do technically have a TikTok.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: We just would you like to see more of any crying?
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: It's like, essentially it's like me, isn't it?
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Like mostly me crying and then wars you something.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to do that. I don't
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: want to be here.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're on TikTok more. I'm not even on
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: talk so Samantha, Yes, that'll be funny. Yeah, we'll see
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: all right, We'll.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Let us know, please, because we do love hearing from you.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: You can email us at Stephanie and mom Stuff at
• 48:46
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• 48:48
  Speaker 1: mom Stuff podcast or on Instagram and Yes, TikTok and
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: stuff Mom never TLDs you.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: We have a tea public.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Store which hopefully we'll get some new designs needs yes uh, and.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Have a book that you can get wherever you get
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: your books.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Thanks as always to our super producer Christina or executive
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: producer Maya and our contributor Joey. Thank you, yes, and
• 49:07
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• 49:09
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