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The Late Debate | 29 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Ls.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Debase. Good evening and welcome to
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  Speaker 2: the show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand.
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  Speaker 2: Well bad news.
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  Speaker 3: I'm afraid to tell you the prices of electric cars
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  Speaker 3: have plummeted because people don't want to buy them. Old
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  Speaker 3: bull mate that. Later in the show, Immigration Minister Andrew
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  Speaker 3: Giles has been caught out fibbing again about child rapists
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  Speaker 3: and other foreign criminals who were released due to a
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  Speaker 3: decision he made. We'll get into that in the papers,
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  Speaker 3: and a man who decided to live his life as
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  Speaker 3: a border collie says it was all a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: But first, it doesn't matter where you go.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the opening of an envelope school assembly, even when
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  Speaker 3: you get on the skybus to leave the airport in Melbourne,
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  Speaker 3: you get either a welcome to country or.
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  Speaker 2: An acknowledgment of country.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we're all sick of going along to
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  Speaker 3: some sort of event and you know, the first person
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  Speaker 3: gets up, the MC introduces whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: And they give an acknowledgement of country.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, sure we did it to open the event,
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  Speaker 3: and then every subsequent speaker gets up and does it again.
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  Speaker 3: It has become a joke, but I didn't know it
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  Speaker 3: had become this much of a joke.
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  Speaker 2: One fella from Brisbane.
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  Speaker 3: Has gone online and said he was recently went to
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  Speaker 3: a job interview. Now, there were five people in this room,
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  Speaker 3: was a panel interview. He was going for a customer
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  Speaker 3: service job at an insurance company, and the interviewer gave
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  Speaker 3: what he calls a welcome to country. Now we don't
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  Speaker 3: know whether the interviewer was Aboriginal, in which case it
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  Speaker 3: would be a welcome to country. Otherwise, officially it's called
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  Speaker 3: an acknowledgment of country. But they felt the need in
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  Speaker 3: front of these five people going for the job to
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  Speaker 3: give a welcome and or acknowledgment of country. This fella
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  Speaker 3: said that he took it upon himself, this bloke, to
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  Speaker 3: do a welcome to country. He described the experiences weird
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  Speaker 3: and unnecessary. He said, I wanted to get others opinions
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  Speaker 3: on this, as I thought it was.
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  Speaker 2: Peak Australian corporate culture. Well you can say that again.
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  Speaker 3: At the time I didn't give it a second thought,
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  Speaker 3: but in retrospect.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty weird and unnecessary.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what else is it going to be listening
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  Speaker 3: you'll have nights like that.
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  Speaker 2: You go down to the letterbox.
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  Speaker 3: And you open the letterbox and you'll have to give
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  Speaker 3: an acknowledgment of country before you pull the mail out,
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  Speaker 3: and you go to the supermarket and there'll be someone
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  Speaker 3: standing at the front of coals when you walk in
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  Speaker 3: the front door to acknowledge the country that you're seriously
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  Speaker 3: a job interview.
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  Speaker 1: A job into view.
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  Speaker 4: I would have been standing to my feet being like, Nah, sorry,
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  Speaker 4: guys are clearly not a good fit for this place.
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  Speaker 1: All the best with that jog on.
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  Speaker 4: Remember when Marshall Langton said to us that if the
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  Speaker 4: no vote got up last year, welcome to Country would
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  Speaker 4: be no more because everyone would be too embarrassed to
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  Speaker 4: ask an Indigenous.
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  Speaker 1: Person to do one.
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  Speaker 4: And even if they did have the tamerity, she said,
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  Speaker 4: even if they did have the tamera to ask an
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  Speaker 4: Indigenous person to do a Welcome to.
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  Speaker 1: Country, the answer would be no.
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  Speaker 4: Well, don't threaten us with a good time, Marsha Langton,
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  Speaker 4: and then don't deliver on it, because we see this
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  Speaker 4: now blissfully going on as if nothing happened, as if
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  Speaker 4: the vast majority of Australia didn't vote last year to
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  Speaker 4: be like yeah. To be quite frank, we're really sick
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  Speaker 4: of this. I was interested in the poll in the
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  Speaker 4: Courier Mail today which simply asked do you think that
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Country is being overused? Now? Ninety eight percent
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  Speaker 4: voted yes, and at the time that I voted, there
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  Speaker 4: was over ten thousand, one hundred votes, so it's.
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  Speaker 1: A pretty big poll.
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  Speaker 4: This guy who went to this interview is also quoted
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  Speaker 4: as saying, I understand companies doing these for big, important
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  Speaker 4: meetings with higher ups, but at a job interview, it
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  Speaker 4: just felt pointless. Go with your gut, mate, because it
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  Speaker 4: is pointless in any respect. Joe, how do you How
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  Speaker 4: do you like Welcome to Country?
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  Speaker 2: Are you well?
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  Speaker 5: I'd like to begin by acknowledging the or a nation
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  Speaker 5: and the gadical people and whose lands we gather this evening.
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  Speaker 5: My concern, My concern is that it looks it he's
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  Speaker 5: getting more and more ubiquous. I was a big support
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  Speaker 5: of the voice, as you know, and and I would
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  Speaker 5: go often when I was on my way here, I'd
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  Speaker 5: do what any real man does on his way to
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  Speaker 5: a late night Sky news show and went to b W.
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  Speaker 6: Just to look at the toy section.
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  Speaker 5: And I would hear and you would hear it actually
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  Speaker 5: played on a tape on repeating. I'm kind of thinking, amazing,
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  Speaker 5: who was that actually respecting? Like, who was that actually
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  Speaker 5: paying respects to like just like literally literally phoning it in,
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  Speaker 5: so phoning it in that you're not even phoning it
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  Speaker 5: in yourself. It's a recorded message that is phoning it in.
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  Speaker 5: And that's sort of my concern, and so any sort
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  Speaker 5: of everywhere. Another thing I did didn't realize there was
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  Speaker 5: an acknowledgment of Country on the opening of my new
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  Speaker 5: podcast on Nova, which is the real story with Joe Hilderbrant.
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  Speaker 6: But that how but that is how I even felt like.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not opposed to it in any way whatsoever, but
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  Speaker 5: that's how sort of baked in it is to everything.
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  Speaker 5: And my concern is not necessarily that it's there. My
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  Speaker 5: concern is, well, all right, will you talk the talk,
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  Speaker 5: but what are you actually doing about it?
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  Speaker 6: And I kind of think, well, you know, at.
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  Speaker 5: All these corporate events, you know, you go to my
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  Speaker 5: skyscraper and the middle of the Sydney CBD, and so
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  Speaker 5: we'd like to acknowledge.
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  Speaker 6: The traditional owners. Well, all right, then give it back to.
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  Speaker 2: The land back that you I or the.
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  Speaker 5: Law firm with the billions of dollars in real estate,
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  Speaker 5: like you could actually do something they never do, of course.
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  Speaker 3: But even like so on the weekend, I like to
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  Speaker 3: have a punt and you have a listen to tab
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  Speaker 3: Radio or Sky Sports Radio as it is here in Sydney,
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  Speaker 3: and even then they're playing these messages over and over
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  Speaker 3: throughout the day. We'd like to acknowledge the land from
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  Speaker 3: which we broadcast today. On and on it goes.
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  Speaker 2: Few people know.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the welcome to country was actually invented
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  Speaker 3: by Ernie Dingo because there was an event where some
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  Speaker 3: people were coming from some Pacific nations I believe to
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  Speaker 3: Australia and.
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  Speaker 1: They felt uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 3: They felt uncomfortable coming to Australia to do this without
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  Speaker 3: being welcomed to the land because that was custom back
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  Speaker 3: home and they didn't want to come on to someone
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  Speaker 3: else's land without being welcomed.
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  Speaker 2: So Ernie didn't go on a number.
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  Speaker 3: Of others came up with the first ceremony that was
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  Speaker 3: a welcomed country and it's just sort of taken on
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  Speaker 3: another life ever since. And I think part of the
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  Speaker 3: problem now is that because it is so overdone. It's
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  Speaker 3: played on bloody Sky sports radio, it's played in big
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  Speaker 3: w everyone who gets up to speak says it. It's
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  Speaker 3: even done at job interviews that it's lost all meaning.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you go by sporting it and they have
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  Speaker 3: a real welcome to country with a smoking ceremony whatever,
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  Speaker 3: you know, once in a blue moon, that's fine, but
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  Speaker 3: it happens so often now that everyone just rolls their
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  Speaker 3: eyes and groans.
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  Speaker 6: It literally means different things.
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  Speaker 5: So there's a welcome to country in which indigenous traits
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  Speaker 5: and actually comes and says a few words, and that
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  Speaker 5: is very very informal, and a lot of those it's
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  Speaker 5: also very lucrative proper businesses. They don't know as much
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  Speaker 5: as I'm getting a lot of these events. They'll come
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  Speaker 5: up and speak and say really like, they're really good speakers.
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  Speaker 5: They're funny, they tell really good stories and everything, heaps
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  Speaker 5: of jokes.
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  Speaker 6: They're really good. You should listen to them.
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  Speaker 5: The more the more sort of tokenistic sort of right
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  Speaker 5: of passage one, the sort of hairshirt one is that
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  Speaker 5: I acknowledge the traditional owners of the lands of which
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  Speaker 5: we've met, And that is the one that just constantly
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  Speaker 5: gets put out there on repeat, and that is not
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  Speaker 5: actually done by traditional owners or traditional Indigenous people at all.
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  Speaker 5: So again I think it's just this. I think the
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  Speaker 5: intentions are kind of good, but I think it is
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  Speaker 5: done firstly out of a kind of fear of saying
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  Speaker 5: the wrong thing and wanting to make sure that you're
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  Speaker 5: ticking all the boke boxes and crossing all the t's
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  Speaker 5: and dotting all the i's, but also people sort of
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  Speaker 5: thinking that, you know, feel feeling better about themselves just
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  Speaker 5: because they've said a few words without doing probably actuation
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  Speaker 5: understand the meaning. And so again I would much prefer
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  Speaker 5: instead of having a bunch of you know, non indigenous
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  Speaker 5: people all in a room acknowledging that they're on Indigenous
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  Speaker 5: land and there's no one sort of there to kind
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  Speaker 5: of acknowledge it too. Half the time because it's some
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  Speaker 5: corporate gig like go out there give money to like
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  Speaker 5: you know Australian you know, Literacy and Numeracy Foundation, or
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  Speaker 5: you know any number of the indigenous mentoring.
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  Speaker 2: Actually doing somebody that's right, put.
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  Speaker 5: Your money where your mouth is. That all these amazing
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  Speaker 5: charities I've done stuff with. Fed Holes is another one
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  Speaker 5: who overwhelmingly work with indigenous people just take that million
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  Speaker 5: bucks and slap it on the table and they can
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  Speaker 5: go out and do wonders with it instead of just
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  Speaker 5: sort of paying lip service to it all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I know it would make sense. Would let's move on
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  Speaker 3: to other things now?
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  Speaker 2: We've been talking about direction.
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  Speaker 3: Ninety nine for the last couple of days, and I
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  Speaker 3: was driving into work this evening, I thought, ah, I
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  Speaker 3: know what this reminds.
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  Speaker 2: Me of.
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  Speaker 5: Good idea only nine.
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  Speaker 3: Except in this case, of course, it wasn't a good
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  Speaker 3: idea ninety nine. This is exactly bad idea ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: We've had another.
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  Speaker 3: Case of one of these people who had their potential
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  Speaker 3: deportation overturned by the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.
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  Speaker 2: In this case a Sudanese migrant.
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  Speaker 3: Now, he'd lived overseas for twenty years before he.
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  Speaker 2: Came to Australia.
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  Speaker 3: But then he lived in Australia for fifteen years, and
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  Speaker 3: when he went to the AAT to claim that he
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  Speaker 3: should be allowed to stay here.
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  Speaker 2: He said, well, I'm actually Aboriginal.
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  Speaker 3: Now, yes, this man did not live in Australia for
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  Speaker 3: twenty years. He is a migrant to this country. He
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  Speaker 3: came over here and hooked up with an Aboriginal woman.
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  Speaker 2: He was with her for ten years. He was also
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  Speaker 2: convicted of bashing.
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  Speaker 3: Her by the way he had three kids with her,
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  Speaker 3: amongst other crimes that he had committed. But when he
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  Speaker 3: goes off to the AAT, he says, I self, I
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  Speaker 3: had and identify sorry as an Aboriginal person and consider
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  Speaker 3: Australia to be my country.
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  Speaker 2: And to give some.
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  Speaker 3: Weight to this, he says that he's participated in some
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  Speaker 3: smoking ceremonies, he's done Aboriginal art, he's learned how to
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  Speaker 3: play the didgerido, and for that reason he is Aboriginal
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  Speaker 3: and we cannot remove him from this country because of course,
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  Speaker 3: Direction ninety nine said that if a migrant had a
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  Speaker 3: long standing connection to the country, they should be allowed
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  Speaker 3: to stay here. But it's plainly obvious to anyone that
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  Speaker 3: this rule is wrong. It is not working. It's allowing
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  Speaker 3: criminals who are not from this country to remain here. Well,
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  Speaker 3: Clara O'Neil was grilled about this on Sunrise this morning
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  Speaker 3: and went about as well as you'd expect.
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  Speaker 7: One rape and disabled fourteen year old and a sixteen
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  Speaker 7: year old one raped a child between the age of
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  Speaker 7: ten and fourteen and one raped eight times, forty eight
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  Speaker 7: counts of sexual assault on twenty five women and a teen.
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  Speaker 7: The judge said he had no remorse. That's what we're
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  Speaker 7: dealing with. And you're still arguing support for the minister.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that.
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  Speaker 8: Washes Look, Matt, I completely understand the concern that you
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  Speaker 8: have about these and the crimes that you've listed there
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  Speaker 8: are absolutely horrendous and no member of Parliament and no
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  Speaker 8: member of the government is going to disagree with that.
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  Speaker 2: And it got even better.
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  Speaker 8: Actually, Minister Giles has stepped in here. He's taking action
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  Speaker 8: as a good minister would do. He's doing the right thing.
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  Speaker 8: He's stepped in at the right moment.
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  Speaker 1: He stepped in at the right moment.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, A lot of people would dispute that he put
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  Speaker 7: in this direction, this ministerial direction last January. Then they
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  Speaker 7: use the laws, this direction that was put in by
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  Speaker 7: your government to stay in this country. So do you
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  Speaker 7: think it's maybe too late that Andrew Giles is acting now?
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  Speaker 1: I just reiterate what Minister Giles has said yesterday. Those
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  Speaker 1: visus were.
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  Speaker 8: Canceled by the part that government plays in this. An
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  Speaker 8: independent tribunal overturned those decisions.
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  Speaker 2: How did she say that with a straight face?
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Giles has just come through at the right minute
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  Speaker 3: to make all this.
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  Speaker 4: Well, when they're on the first clip, she's saying these
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  Speaker 4: are atrocious crimes. You know, they're indefensible, and then you
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  Speaker 4: went on to defend him. Of course the government wants
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  Speaker 4: to say, oh, it's an independent tribunal, washing our hands
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  Speaker 4: of this. They are acting on the rules that you
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  Speaker 4: made in your jolly direction ninety nine.
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  Speaker 1: That's how they're making.
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  Speaker 4: The decisions to overturn said cancelations. So you don't just
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  Speaker 4: get to kick the can down the road and say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we're blaming it on the tribunal.
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  Speaker 1: So he's come out.
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  Speaker 4: Today and Charles or was it yesterday announced the review.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to have a review.
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  Speaker 4: This tribunal is going to be reviewed, and there's going
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  Speaker 4: to be yes.
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  Speaker 1: What he said.
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  Speaker 4: He said that the members of this new review tribunal
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  Speaker 4: were going to use common sense.
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  Speaker 1: Here's word, not mine.
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  Speaker 4: Now they're going to be using common sense and the
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  Speaker 4: safety of the community is going to be paramount, not
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  Speaker 4: their ties to the country. The safety of the community.
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  Speaker 4: You mean to tell me that they haven't been using
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  Speaker 4: common sense and that the safety of the community hasn't
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  Speaker 4: been paramount up to this point. Yes, that's exactly what
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  Speaker 4: he's saying, and it's thanks to his direction ninety nine.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I just find this so staggering. And I know
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  Speaker 5: people often accuse me of defending the in defense of
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  Speaker 5: all when it comes to the labor. Don't do it
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  Speaker 5: this time, Joe, I got nothing.
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  Speaker 6: I got nothing, Thank goodness.
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  Speaker 5: I was actually believe it or not, I was actually
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  Speaker 5: with our esteem colleague James Morrow of Outsiders on Sundays
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  Speaker 5: on Sky. And of course we both also work for
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  Speaker 5: the Daily Telegraph and we're doing anything on Daily Telegraph,
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  Speaker 5: a video for the Daily Telegraph, and I was saying
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  Speaker 5: this exact same, Why on earth did they ever have
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  Speaker 5: this thing in section ninety nine saying that ties to
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  Speaker 5: Australia had to be taken into consideration without simply saying,
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  Speaker 5: if you've abused someone, if you've bashed a woman, if
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  Speaker 5: you've committed rape or sexual assault, you've killed someone or
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  Speaker 5: as solid someone, doesn't matter who you identify as. It
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  Speaker 5: doesn't matter how much you go to work and pay
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  Speaker 5: your taxes and come home and mow the law, and
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  Speaker 5: you're gone you're out and make it clear and believe
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  Speaker 5: it or not. Just a couple of hours later. That
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  Speaker 5: is exactly what the government has done. And thank Christ
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  Speaker 5: because it has been so long in coming. And how
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  Speaker 5: you could have this kind of overarching thing. If they've
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  Speaker 5: got ties to the community, then that should be emphasized
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  Speaker 5: and that should be able to they should be able
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  Speaker 5: to stay without having a very an equally clear carve
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  Speaker 5: out like they said, oh you know things like do
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  Speaker 5: these things like you know, if they've killed someone that
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  Speaker 5: should be taken into consideration, or you think and of
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  Speaker 5: course you've got this thing saying well, no, their ties
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  Speaker 5: to the country you have to bear. And they are
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  Speaker 5: doing now, of course what they should.
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  Speaker 6: Have done long ago.
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  Speaker 5: Now I doubt very much was Andrew Giles who came
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  Speaker 5: up with this all on his own. Some I think
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  Speaker 5: Claire O'Neil, obviously has to publicly defend him, would be
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  Speaker 5: privately seething because she has to eat the proverbial sandwich
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  Speaker 5: every time he comes out and stuffs up, and she
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  Speaker 5: has to go and clean up the mess. I dare
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  Speaker 5: say the Prime Minister would have either said do this
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  Speaker 5: or told them to fix it. And this is the
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  Speaker 5: fix they've come up with, so good on albow for that.
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  Speaker 5: But again the idea that you know, common sense or
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  Speaker 5: the safety of the community was not paramount before this
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  Speaker 5: came along just shows I think how completely incompetent, out
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  Speaker 5: of his depth Andrew Giles is.
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  Speaker 6: And again he complains about the.
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  Speaker 5: Fact that the that the government has canceled these visas
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  Speaker 5: and then the administrative appeals tribunals overturned them. Well, firstly,
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  Speaker 5: the person, the head the Chief Commission of the Administrative
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  Speaker 5: Appeals Tribune that actually beld the cat on this is
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  Speaker 5: a former labor left colleague of Andrew Giles, a former
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  Speaker 5: Speaker of the House Protection who said I have to
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  Speaker 5: do this because this is what this directive clearly states
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  Speaker 5: exactly right.
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  Speaker 6: So there's that as well.
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  Speaker 5: But not only that, he says, oh, but I canceled
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  Speaker 5: the visas and then this independent tribunal that I've got
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  Speaker 5: no control over then overturn my cancelation. He gave them
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  Speaker 5: the power to overturn that cancelation. He clearly made it
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  Speaker 5: explicitly in office at the heads of no one, it seems,
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  Speaker 5: made it easier for them to overturn cancelation of visas
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: because anyone can plea. So again there's a level of
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: kind of immorality in terms of allowing these things. I mean,
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: we were just talking about Indigenous people and paying respects
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: to them. What says paying respects to Indigenous people more
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: than allowing an Indigenous woman to be bashed by a
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: Pseudanese immigrant claiming to be Indigenous and having him still
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: able to stay in the country in.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: The orbit of his victim, one of his at least
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: they said it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is knife crime, cast.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: It's a particular, it's a particular it's a particular, dark
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: irony that you would have an Administry of Decisions Try
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: and ad Ministry Appeals tribunal saying oh, you know, we
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: have to respect Indigenous people by giving this non Indigenous
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: person the right to stay in Australia so he can
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: continue to abuse his Indigenous partner. I mean, what kind
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: of Dantean hell are we living in where that actually
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: seems like a common sense decision by a quasi judicial body,
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: and where the government means it can.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Be a criminal immigrant in this country, but as long
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: as you have strong.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Enough ties, it's fine.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: So if you've maybe had a kid here, or you've
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: married someone here.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Oh well you've.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Got ties, so you get to stay and it's all
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: just through to the keeper.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Never you mind.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: He's Giles today, straight face, telling us I'm on the job.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I'm going to fix it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: I will be updating Ministerial Direction ninety nine, as the Prime.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Minister has just said order.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: The new direction will order that.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: All members of the at will adopt a common sense
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: approach to visa decision. Oh well, thank god, some common
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: sense that is new for you and your government, isn't it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: We can't wait for this new ubed tribunal. It can't
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: come fast enough.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: But let's go to Parramatta.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Now we're they're thinking, oh, there's a lot of e
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: bikes on the road and these are getting.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Dodger and dodger.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: These are motorized boat bikes, right, you see them.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: It's all around boats motivating.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: But they're like low powered motorbikes basically. I think they're
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: like what twenty five CC's. But a lot of people
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: who do deliver rou uber eats they get these bikes
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: and that's how they get around. That's how they earn
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: a buck delivering you your food. Well, they've decided it's
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: getting unsafe because there's no license for these people getting
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: around on these putt put bikes. And here's another opportunity
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: for us to regulate.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Regulate.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: You can't even jump on an e bike anymore, says
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: the City of Paramatta.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get a license.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: So what they're saying is I know that there's a
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: lot of Indian and other ethnicities getting around on these
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: e bucks making money.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Because well that's what they've seen. They literally said it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: If you don't read the story online, they.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Actually specific I wasn't going.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: To go to that they specifically, they specifically point out Indians.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Oh so it would be different if it were white
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: people on these.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: What they're saying is they have foreign licenses. They don't
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: have Australian licenses. Therefore they don't understand the Australian road rules,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: so they don't know how to ride a bike on
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Australian roads. Absolute garbage, Like I'm sorry if you don't
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: know how to ride a bike of any persuade, and
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you probably didn't get taught very well as a child.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think it matters whether you are black, white, brindle,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: whether you came here from India or Pakistan or Africa
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: or anywhere else on the face of the planet. You
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: can ride a bike just as badly as anyone.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Who was born here.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Why do we want to take away all these freedoms? Because,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: of course, the great thing about a bike, and the
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: people say they should be registered because people run red
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: lights on bikes, and they should have speed cameras because
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: people get upset motors, Oh my god. But the great
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: freedom of a bike is that you don't have to
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: obey the rules.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: You can evade the rules.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: And if you take that away from cycling, watch the
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: point of cycling.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Caleb Bond, the world's only conservative pro cyclist.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I don't want the bike lay, I don't want the
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: bike lines.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: I just want to be able to ride on people's rooftops. Firstly,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: people say the Indians are not as good drivers as Australia,
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: don't know how to drive. They are ten times better
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: than Australian drivers. I have been driving around in you
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Deli and the.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: Drivers do Honestly.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: There is a reason the road toll there is approximately
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: one hundred and forty thousand a year.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: But still the fact that they get anywhere all the
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: time incredible. It's amazing.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I've seen them, and it's just it's like this sort
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: of hive mind. They turn a two lane road that
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: was like meant to be two lanes each way, I thought,
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: and it turns into a seven lane road with three
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: lanes squeezed into the two lanes one way, three lanes
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: squeezed into two lanes the other way, and then one
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: lane right in the middle, where people are driving straight
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: at one another and then dodging each other at the
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: last minute in this kind of crazy took took game
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: of chicken.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: If you're via.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: One centimeter to the rest, and never check your rearview mirrors.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: If you do, you're dead already because you can't afford
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: to take your eyes one.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Your mate're some respect?
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: Give an e bike right, some respect? Can we be
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: watching and learning?
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, because they say to a danger to people
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: on the foot.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: Little ladies, not too many of them, but let's be honest.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: There are talk about it, but what about people who
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: get around on those mobility and they can be just
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: as much of a menace as anyone on an e bike.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: You're on a.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Motorized bike or whatever it might be, you're trundling down
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: the footpath you're just as prone to knock someone over.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: So do we then say that you need to have
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: a license to get on a mobility scooter? Do we
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: say that kids need licenses to get a bike? They'll
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: need a license to get an electric scooter to ride
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: around his kid? Like?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Where does this stuff?
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: In?
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: An e bike and a mobility scooter going head to
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: head in Harris Park.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I want to see drag races.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Actually, can we get drag races of mobility scooters.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Bike library as we speak.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I'll even put up a small purse for a prize
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: to make it happen if someone can organize it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you who you.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't want to see in a drag that's an electric
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: vehicle right now?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Actually, so I should have bit.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Some of them are pretty fast, particularly the Tesla's. But
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: the big problem with electric vehicles, of course, is they
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: don't make any noise. I mean they want to drag race,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: you want lots and lots of noise. And I'm certainly
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: not the only one who seems to have a problem
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: with electric vehicles. Because the market has really softened. People
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: aren't They're not buying them in the same numbers that
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: they were because of course they've worked out that it's
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: all a bit of a sham. And one of the
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: great shams of it all now is that there's no
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: resale value in these things.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: There are two reasons for that. One is that the
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: price of new electric vehicles keeps going through the floor
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: again because they can't sell them. So the manufacturers are
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: now reducing their prices on the shop floor significantly. If
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: you want to buy a Tesla model, why that's gone
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: from seventy two three hundred to sixty thousand, nine hundred.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty big drop.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: A pergoh E two thousand and eight has gone, would
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: you believe it, from sixty three thousand to third nine thousand,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: nine ninety.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: That is a real.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Reduction in the price because they really need people to
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: buy them now. The consequence of that is that if
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: you bought it for sixty thousand last week and now
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: the car's worth thirty nine thousand, if you go and
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: try to sell it in a year's time, the depreciation
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: is at least twenty thousand dollars. We all know you
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: drive a car off the shop floor and you lose value,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: but you lose even more value with electric vehicles now
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: because the prices keep going down and then the technology
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: keeps improving with every year. So every time the range
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: goes up the driving range on a new electric car,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: it means your old electric car is worth less and
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: less and less. It's no surprise I think that people
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: are not buying them and now that these manufacturers are
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: desperate to try and move them off the dealership floor.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Because people have woken up and gone, you know, it sounded.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Nice for a few minutes, but it's just not practical.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not to mention charging them as an absolute nightmare.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: There's lines out the door, no where.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: You pull in.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I see them all the time, and I'm just like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: good luck with that. Fueling up still takes less than
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: two minutes.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: But the angle that.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Some people have taken on this, like finance giant Ross
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Gerber saying that no, this is due to Musk.
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: I love that and all the he keeps coming out
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: with all this conservative plat trap and saying all these
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: controversial things, and that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Is what people think of when they decide not to
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: buy a Tesla.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: So he is at least I.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Reckon who buys a Tesla? Why do you buy a Tesla?
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: To signal to the world, what a progressive planet, loving,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: touchy feely, you know, nice super guy I am. But
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: that ultimate virtine is that ultimate virtue signal. And then
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: when along goes on you know X or whatever it's
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: called now and says you no annoying, uncomfortable things like
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: I believe in free speech or whatever, and suddenly he's
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: a pariah of the left. Then suddenly your tesla is
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: signaling the opposite. Think this giant seventy thousand dollars virtue
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: signaling exercise is suddenly sing signaling the wrong virtue signaling advice.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: And so suddenly like, oh, I'm not going to take
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: it out of the people will think if I drive
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: my tesla, I like Elon musk lost Gerber. I don't
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: know who he is or whether he's a company or
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: a person.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Or he's actually an investor in Tesla himself.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: But I reckon, I reckon he's onto something because you know, obviously,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: like you said, the reason you buy an electric car
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: is it can't be because it's more convenient, because it's
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: not because you have to wait for half I can't
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: even wait on my phone charge cheap whatever whatever you
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: do it to show the world. You're a massive prog
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: rock wanker. And if Elon Musk.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: That is what I think every time I see one.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: If Elon Musk is suddenly the opposite of what you're
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: trying to say to everybody, then suddenly your tesla is worthless.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: And as for the Purgos, well we all know why
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: they're worthless, because they're Pergos. Want to buy pergo Honestly.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Lecture of cars when you're getting around in the old
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: infestation of German cockr it's supposed to be.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: That has been, that has been fumigated, and I now
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: just need to get it to the panel better for
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: the front because I had another incident in the Aldi
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: car park.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: That's another story.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: German not f If you can get an electric conversion kit,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: would you do it to you?
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: It's already converted to LPG. It's already like anything to
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: an EV.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: That's that's the that's a waste.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: My mechanic Peter who believes that the human race was
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: founded by giant alien visitors to the Pyramids of Kazak.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Has it been disproved?
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: No, it hasn't. No, I'm all in is the smartest man.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Apparently there are actually ways where you can get your
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: favorite old car, like your American muscle car that you love,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: and they will take out the old petrol engine and
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: put in an electric engen Yeah, yeah, and seventy or
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: eighty thousand dollars cloud. It's ridiculous thing it can buy.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: You can bribe almost two teslas for that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Imagine taking an old Mustang and turn it into an ev.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: Again take recording of the muffler now outlawed.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Any Prime Minister worth a grain of salt would just
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: be like, don't touch the vintage cars. To Victoria now
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: where we're all very concerned about the problem of DV
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: in our country and we are hearing a lot about
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: it and what a scourge it is. It seems Premier
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: just Cinra Allen has come up with the perfect solution,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: and that is to get Tim Richson MP to become
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: the Parliamentary Secretary for Men's Behavior Change. He proudly tweets today,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I want to share.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: With you some pretty big news.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Premier just Center Allen has asked me to serve as
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: the Parliamentary Sector Secretary for Men's.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Behavior Change a nation.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: First, Can I just say I absolutely hate this. Men
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: do not need to change their behavior. This is buying
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: into this insidious idea. There he is, doesn't he look
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: ready to change your behavior? Men? Into this insidious idea
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: that men across the board are a massive problem toxic masculinity,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: everyone needs to change their behavior instead of what we
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: know to be a handful of repeat offenders in the
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: DV space.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: I would just like to take issue with Tim Richardson's
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: definition of pretty big news on the Parliamentary Secretary for
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Men's Behavioral Challenge. I mean, again, like with the indigenous issue,
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: this is a very very serious issue, and yet it
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: seems to get treated with the most tookenistic correct virtus
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: sing what is this going to?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: That's right?
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, is he now the behavior police?
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Who does he think? You know, which of the repeat
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: violent offenders who murdered their ex partners over the last
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: few months that we've seen splashed across all the times,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: which of them does he think he could have had
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: a quiet cup of tea with and everything would have
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: been okay? Like, I just do not understand how people
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: think on this issue. And again you are right there.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: You know, these stats are not brought up that very
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: often because it's not it doesn't serve a convenient political narrative.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: But you know, domestic violence, like all forms of violence,
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: is a criminal issue. It is not you know, you
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: can call it a lot of you when you say
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: it's a political issue, but primarily it's a criminal issue.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: These people, people who are.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Prepared to be violent to break the law, do horrible
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: things to the people they should be loving and protecting
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: because they're psychotic, nasty, violent people with incredibly poor impulse
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: control and no empathy for other people around them.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: So the idea that you know, hi, how are you?
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: What was that Barry? Was it?
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Yes, Hi, I'm Tim, I'm the new Parliamentary Secretary for
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Men's Behavioral Change. That this would change that I mean
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: two percent of people. An Australian institu of Criminology report
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: that seemed to disappear without us trace despite the fate.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: It was the first and only comprehensive study of the
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: causes behind domestic violence and pulled together one hundreds and
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: hundreds and hundreds of other studies, thousands of documents, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: it found that, among many other things, there was a
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: report that found that fifty percent of domestic violence assaults
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: were committed by two percent of people. Yeah, so that's
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: the level of repeat offenders. If you look at all
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: the high profile murders that have just been so gut
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: churning and chilling, not a single one of them came
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: out of the blue, not a single one. And while
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: the Victorian governments were putting in Parliamentary Secretary to the
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Mindehovi trade, you know what the new South Wales government,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: a good labor right government, is doing. It is making
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: laws so that people who get charged with domestic violence
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: offenses don't get bail, they don't get out again with
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: a window of a couple of months to kill the
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: person for revenge before they know they're going to go
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: away in the slammer. That is how you tackle this problem,
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: not with these namby pamby bollocks. Oh look at me.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: I care so much, but I'm not really doing anything
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: down south of the.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Marrat as well it should be.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: And of course it denies having a men's behavior change.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Parliamentary secretary denies that there other forms of domestic violence.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Also, it's not always men.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: It is over and so and so.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: It's you're pinpointing one particular form of domestic violence and
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: then ignoring the rest. And imagine if you if you
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: were a bloke or even a woman who was a
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: victim of domestic violence by another woman, if you're in
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: a lesbian partnership, you would look at something like that
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: and go, well, I suppose the violence.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: I you wouldn't that fair enough?
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: But those cases are extreme that those cases are extremely
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: rare statistically the overlalling majority, and sure do South Wales
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: the entirety of death in a particularly year. They did
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: it started, they went through all the cases. It is
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: men and women. So I've got no problem with that.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: But again instead of just saying, oh look I've got
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: a little name badge now that said that I'm going
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: to change your behavior, you know, And again it's sort
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: of another We've had decades now of education campaigns changing
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: with favor. If anything, the problem has got worse. And
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: this is why people's ou admission it's a scourge. It's
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: a pandemic of domestic files. It's less than terrorism. And
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: this is after all, these broad education campaigns speaking to
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: all men have been out there in full force for
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: years and years and years. Clearly they're not working because
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: they're not targeting the real trouble spots. It's like putting
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: you know, it's like putting a speed camera on every
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: single corner instead of the corner you know that the
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: deadly accidents are happening at.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: Instead of targeting the most at.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: Risk people, the most at risk areas, they're just going
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: all men, can you please be better.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: And running jolly ads that we pay millions of dollars for,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Like it starts with this respect.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: And all this kind of thing.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: The DV perpetrators aren't watching your dizzy little ads going yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: you know what, I should really pull my socks up
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: and stop bashing women for crying out a loud, do
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: your research and actually do things that are going to
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: affect change, like you just said we are doing in
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: New South Wales, thank goodness. Quickly to the States now,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: where Donald Trump's criminal trial has just wrapped up. Now
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: we've just got to wait to hear what the jury
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: will come up with. It could be hours, it could
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: be days. We're all on the edge of our seats
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: to see how this latest witch hunt is going to end.
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: But actor Robert de Niro took it upon himself to
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: rock up outside the court today on the final day
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: of all the action and let everyone know where he stood.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to scare you. No, no, wait, maybe.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: I do mean to scare you.
• 34:46
  Speaker 11: If Trump returns to the White House, you can kiss
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: these freedoms goodbye that we all take for granted, and
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: elections forget about it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: That's over, that's done.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: If he gets in, I can tell you right no now,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: he will never leave. What kind of hysterical clap trap
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: is this? If he gets in, he'll never leave. We'll
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: never have another election, all our freedoms.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Gorne Poof of course this went down really well with
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: the Trump supporters outside court.
• 35:21
  Speaker 11: You're you areas you work, your suck trash.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: Knock at movies, don't go after the movie.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: How the Democrats what? I don't know whether this was
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: in conjunction with.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: The Democrats, who would have sat around being like our
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: eighty one year old really seen old president is proving unpopular.
• 35:51
  Speaker 12: Let's wheel out a seemingly equally unhinged eighty year old
• 35:55
  Speaker 12: man to trumpet how great he is, Ladies and gentlemen,
• 35:59
  Speaker 12: Robert Nero and one of his most acting roles, yet
• 36:03
  Speaker 12: some kind.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: Of remember the law to kill Trump gets re elected,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: he will never.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: He didn't do his his script rehearsal before he went
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: his show, people try.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: To give him passion speeches from notes.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: When I first heard this, I thought, I thought, yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Robert de Niro is just wandering around soho and he's
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: just kind of, you know, got lost and ended up
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: on the court steps and going, oh, I'm going to
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: say something about Trump. Megan Kelly said earlier on Paul
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Murray that that this was actually part of a sort
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: of orchestrated campaign by the Democrats to come.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: And it's the worst thing.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Have they learned nothing from the fact that when Donald
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Trump was out there and the Steel States speaking to
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: a thousands people that rallies about what he was going
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: to do for blue collar workers. Hillary Clinton was hanging
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: out with Beyonce, like, who do we know who's a
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: real man of the people.
• 36:56
  Speaker 13: Robert de Niro, Yeah, Raging Bull. You know, it's like
• 37:00
  Speaker 13: that was a movie. He was acting. He's not really
• 37:03
  Speaker 13: a doubt and he'll boxer seeming the movie star.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: He thinks the US is about to turn into a
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: hotel California or of course you can check out, but
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: you can never leave. Donald Trump outside court today of course,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: is now waiting for the deliberation well, he was as
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: entertaining as always.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe no mistake about it. I'm here becot herself crooked.
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of our country,
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: is destroying our country.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: He's destroying our country and he's also destroying it with
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the weaponization. And this is purely his webanization.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to be interesting to see what
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: happens over the next couple of days.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: So the Dems rolled out dear Niro and someone who
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: didn't need to be paid or approached by the Republicans,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Star for Star Dennis Quaid. Here he is talking to
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Pierce Morgan saying, Hey.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Trump's not perfect, but he's got my vote.
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: I think I'm going to vote for him.
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: I was ready not to vote for Trump until what
• 38:05
  Speaker 14: I saw is more than politics. I see a weaponization
• 38:09
  Speaker 14: of our justice system and a challenge to our constitutions
• 38:17
  Speaker 14: as Americans that I don't think we're going to have.
• 38:19
  Speaker 14: And you know, Trump is the most investigated person probably
• 38:24
  Speaker 14: in the history of the world, and they haven't been
• 38:28
  Speaker 14: able to really get him. People might call him an asshole,
• 38:32
  Speaker 14: but he's my asshole.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: How's that for endorsement? This guy's an asshole.
• 38:38
  Speaker 10: He's my assle Stella Stelly.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: You cannot for better ratings than that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: It's amazing and I've just got to say I'm really
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: looking forward to the next Robert Dener Dennis Quaid. I
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: think that's kind of you know, the dramatic tension is.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: But you know, the one thing about Dennis Quaid was
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: he didn't have to read from notes in order to
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: give that speech.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: He actually just sort of said it on the spot.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: It's amazing how you feel like you can trust someone
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: when they can talk from the heart, unlike Robert de Niro.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: All right, coming up in the papers, we'll tell you
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: about one Australian town where break ins have increased by
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: seventy percent.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Will tell you where it is after the break.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get stuck into the papers, starting with
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: the Australian Tomorrow. Unbalanced Tingle, I've seen a bit unbalanced.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Not being able to pronounce the headline, Abe German.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Stingles ABC News chief's humiliating rebuke high profile ABC political
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: journalist law At Tingle has been publicly lambastard by the
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: public broadcaster's new boss, who said the veteran reporters fierce
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: criticism of Opposition leader Peter Dutton's policies on migration, on housing,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: and her assertion that Australia is a racist country failed
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: to meet the organization's editorial standards. Oh knock me over
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: with a feather, Dart, I couldn't have been able to
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: tell that, Joe.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: I guarantee you side unseen right now. There is a
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: Twitter hashtag that spouted about thirty thousand following.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: And says, standish, I guarantee it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: I haven't heard, I don't know, I haven't looked. I'm
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: just saying put the house idea. But this is the
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: thing that they were all they will say. This is
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: another example of ABC's lurch to the right. Under whoever
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: it is, either Butcher or Kick Williams or whatever it is,
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: you can just absolutely guarantee.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: The people who because balance is alert to the right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guarantee you all the crazy rusted on ABC
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: sort of you know, boomer socialists who never came back
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: from Woodstock, plus all the new ones that they are
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: going to be losing their pajamas over this.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: They just love what they call a brusal takedown.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Though in his brutal takedown of Tingle, mister Stephens said,
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: although the remarks were conversational and not me in her
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: work capacity, the ABC and its employees have unique obligations
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: in the Australian media.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds so brutal.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: It sounds like the really smashed it for it news boss.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Go get him.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Of course it was the Odds that first broke the side.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Sophie Ellsworth. The real sacrifice to journalism actually schlept it
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: to the Sydney Writers Festival and had to sit through
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: the whole thing.
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: Just what a sacrifice to get that.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I'd be asking for triple time to go and
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: do an assignment.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Another quick thanks to Albow for implementing the policy that
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: James and I came up with on the Daily Telegraph
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: video site. Immigration Minister Andrew Giles was born month after
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: the Albanesi government was elected that up to two thousand,
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: eight hundred cases could be impacted by its decision to
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: soften Section five oh one visa cancelations, undermining his claim
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: that judges had misinterpreted Direction ninety nine when allowing foreign
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: born rapists, pedophiles and other criminals to stay in Australia.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: That's not a paragraph you want to read, is it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not like we didn't already know.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: I mean in the Senate hearing just yesterday, Yes, it
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: was Tuesday, just yesterday. We already were told that. They
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: were like, don't let him blame.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Us for anything.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: We're acting on his directions, and we warned him that
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: should he go ahead with Direction ninety nine, it would
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: result in more criminal immigrants just being able to stay
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: here and we're helpless to which is odd because his
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: defense is why wasn't I warned, Yeah, I.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Know, exactly.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Tell me that this was the word for words said
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: that in the Senate here, and going back.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: To something you said earlier, I think that Andrew Giles
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: is the child in nappies and Clara O'Neill is the
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: hapless mother trying to clean him up. That's where we've
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: gotten to. If he's not a dead man walking, then
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: there's something seriously wrong.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Well, we know there's a lot of things seriously wrong
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: with this government. They don't seem to have a problem
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: with him. To the front page of the Herald Son,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: now there's been a breakthrough in the Sam Murphy murder case.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: We've found it, reads the splash.
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: Nearly four months police have desperately hoped for a key
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: clue in the search for missing mum Cementa Murphy. On Wednesday,
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: there were hugs and high fives at what.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Is hoped will be a major breakthrough after searchers uncovered
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: a mobile phone at a dam in bunig Jong. So
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: we know that Patrick Stephenson, the twenty two year old tradesman,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: he has been charged with her murderer. He'll would return
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: to court in August. But so far, this is when
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, I don't think it should
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: be against the law to just torture those kind of people.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: And be like, we need to know what happened? Where
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: is she? But of course, in lieu.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Of that, we have a phone which hopefully police will
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: be able to get into and find out perhaps what
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: her last moments looked like.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Look, secretly, some things cops do behind closed doors may
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: venture on torture. But the phone that they found today
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: was apparently in a leather wallet and enclosed in that
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: leather wallet, from what reporters who were there could see
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: were credit cards and potentially ID cards and that kind
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: of thing. So in terms of a breakthrough in this case,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I mean they still have not found the body.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: It just defies belief and they started to just doing
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: my head in. But even the fact that it's taken
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: so long that they found this in a dam, I mean,
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: it is almost the equivalent of a needle in.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: A haste, And it just gives you.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: I suppose in case of just the scale and the
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: huge resources that have gone into this, the amount of
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: combing through that they must have done, yees, phenomenal. Now
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: we promised, and so we shall deliver. The town where
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: city wrestles with a seventy percent spike in break ins
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: over the past decade is, of course, beautiful downtown Townsville,
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: where the Townsville Bully reports sleepless nights and shattered nerves
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: are becoming the norm for victims of crime in Townsville.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: As the city wrestles with a seventy percent spike in
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: break ins over the past decade, Police data shows the
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: number of unlawful entry offenses saw it from three thousand,
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: two hundred four and twenty thirteen to five thousand, four
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: hundred and seventy four in twenty twenty three, signaling a
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: growing concern. I think growing concern is probably something of
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: an understatement.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I would have thought so.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: And every one of these headlines that comes forward in
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Queensland over the next few months is just poisoned for
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Stephen Miles and the state government up there.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: But it's all made up in Kayleb.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: That's exactly as they said, there is no crime wave.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: It's just a perception and it's the Meja lying to you.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: A lot of electric scooters in townships.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Electric with foreign weavers getting around on them.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: But every one of these stories just needs to be
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: driven home because the paliche now Miles government had so
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: long to do something about youth crime and it just
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: gets worse and worse and worse.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: But you know, they had their brand new eleven points
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: plan to tackle the hum crime crisis is.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: In the States.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: This is their fifth time they've had a point plan.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: It started out with five points, then it was a
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: different five points. Now we're up to eleven points, so
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: you know what's going to work.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: The last one was a ten point plan.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: This one's an eleven point actual points.
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: It turns out there was no point.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Indeed, nothing fixes anything better than an eleven point plan.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: After the break, the man who decided he was going
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: to live as a border collide you reckon, he could
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: stick to it.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: You'll find that.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: There are some mornings I wake up and look at
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: my two cats on the bed, Boo and clawed Claude
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: named for Claude Crow of the Adelaide Crows by the way.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Oh God, why would you do? Wouldn't it be.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Niceudn't it be nice if I could live the life
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: of a cat, even though you had to lick your
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: own bam and all sorts of stuff. But there was
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: one blocal Liz who decided he actually wanted to be
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: a border college He did.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: His name is Toco, and in twenty twenty two he
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: realized his dream after spending fourteen thousand dollars on a
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: very elaborate border collie outfit. But he's now decided in
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four that it's actually really hard to walk
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: in this costume.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: As a human. It's hard to walk on all fours.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: So he's calling time on his lifelong fantasy of becoming
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: an animal. I guess he's fulfilled it now, Joe.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: So he's like, you know what, I'm one, I'm done here.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: I just have so many questions, but one of them
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: that's terrifying.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I hope no kids will one of them, because that
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: is just and that poor dog is a.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Mate. You wouldn't put him over the but look, you
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: can't even move. But like.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: If someone walks into your costume shop and says, I
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: want to border collie costume because I want to live
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: as a border Collie, you don't make him the border
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: collie costume. Yes you don't.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: He takes a man.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: But then you call the local you know, asylum, and go,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: there's a dude here who wants to live as a
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: border Collie.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Like Judge, Egie was a bear. I can't I live
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: like a border college No. The real question here is firstly,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: when you tease this story before the break, he said,
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: and do you think you follow through with it as
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: if this was a story about millennials not being able
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: to commit to projects. And then when you're introducing it
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: after the break, you make it about how you want
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: to live like a cat, even though it could involve
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: liking your own butt? Will we And then you have
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: the to marrate it to Judge Toko, are you telling
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: me that you may be a magistrate?
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but cats and dogs and whatever mean animals
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: that live in the home, don't have to work, they
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: don't pay any rent.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: You're telling me you've never wanted to live like that.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: I'm having to lick your own butt every day. I mean,
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: you know what, I think. I'd like to catch the
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: train and go to work.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Look, I tell you what.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I want to come back as a race horse because
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I know how well they treated.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your company.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Tonight upnixt the reader, Pan and your show Goodnes