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Cubs vs. Reds as the division race picks up speed · North Side Territory: A Chicago Cubs Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your
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  Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. We are
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  Speaker 1: headed into Memorial Day weekend. The Cubs are ten games
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  Speaker 1: over five hundred. They're not fully healthy, but they got
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  Speaker 1: Ian halfback. They won a series against the Marlins. They're
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  Speaker 1: doing what they are supposed to do in this weaker stretch.
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  Speaker 1: I believe they are now seven and two in that
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  Speaker 1: twenty one game stretch against under five hundred teams. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even sure if the Reds are still under five hundred,
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  Speaker 1: but they start three against the Reds, a talented team
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  Speaker 1: that's probably not playing up fully up to its potential yet.
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  Speaker 2: But the Cubs.
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  Speaker 1: The Cubs are getting a lot of different contributions. Matt
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  Speaker 1: Shaw's returned and he looks like the player that you know,
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  Speaker 1: we kind of expected him to be, or.
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  Speaker 2: Hoped he could be. The Cubs hoped he could be.
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  Speaker 1: He is driving the ball to the right field with consistency.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like every every other at bat is a
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  Speaker 1: hard line drive to run. Daniel Palencia bounced back nicely
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  Speaker 1: blew that game on Monday and comes back with a
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  Speaker 1: real nice save, quick one two three inning. The bullpen
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  Speaker 1: isn't perfect, but it has some talent there.
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  Speaker 2: Brad Keller with.
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  Speaker 1: Huge one and two thirds innings, just to I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously, you know, I don't think anybody that watches
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  Speaker 1: baseball expected Kyle Tucker's slump to last much longer than
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  Speaker 1: it did.
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  Speaker 2: He is back to being Kyle Tucker.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. Just you know, this is a this is what
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  Speaker 1: they're not click. I wouldn't say they're clicking on all cylinders,
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  Speaker 1: but they are. I mean, they won a game fourteen
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  Speaker 1: to one, so I guess maybe they are. But they're also,
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  Speaker 1: you know, winning the games they should be winning series,
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  Speaker 1: and like I said, they're ten games over five hundred
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  Speaker 1: and first place heading into kind of what do we
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  Speaker 1: call this a mile marker?
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  Speaker 2: I guess in the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to your point, I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: most impressive part about this season thus far is that
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  Speaker 3: they aren't really clicking on all cylinders. Like it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: feel like the Cubs are kind of maxed out at
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  Speaker 3: this point, like things have gone wrong and they've withstood
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  Speaker 3: the injuries to show to Monaga and Justin Steele and
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  Speaker 3: Javier assad and they've figured out to an extent what
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  Speaker 3: works in the bullpen, you know, while acknowledging that there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of work to be done and they'll have
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  Speaker 3: to bring in reinforcements here pretty soon. But like you know,
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  Speaker 3: fifty games is not an insignificant amount of time off
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  Speaker 3: the calendar. And when you see them ten over, when
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  Speaker 3: you see how this offense has clicked, you see the
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  Speaker 3: young talent rising to the surface, whether it's Kate Horton,
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  Speaker 3: matchaw obviously Peek Armstrong becoming like an m VP candidate.
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  Speaker 4: This is.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty close to what the Cubs could have could have
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  Speaker 3: hoped for back in Mesa, you know, boarding the plane
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  Speaker 3: to Japan. Uh. It is, in just about every respect
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  Speaker 3: a very impressive start to the season and one that
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  Speaker 3: they think they can sustain.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't see any reason why they
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  Speaker 1: can't sustain it outside of stacking up injuries.
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  Speaker 2: I like the idea that you know, they've built some depth.
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  Speaker 1: Here, they've they've they've won while not maybe playing their
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  Speaker 1: best or having some injuries. Kyle Tucker is the best
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  Speaker 1: player on this team I know, pe K Armstrong is
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  Speaker 1: probably the least in war right now. But I mean
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker is the one that's established himself. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: say that he has the the history of doing this.
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  Speaker 1: So they have that guy, they have a breakout star,
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  Speaker 1: they have they have a lot of elements that.
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  Speaker 2: That lead to success.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about so many different aspects
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  Speaker 1: of this team.
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  Speaker 2: Really.
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  Speaker 1: There's the the catching duo is just remarkable. Uh, the
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  Speaker 1: youth that's coming up. Cad Horton is he was he dominant.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, but he's he's he's getting, he's
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  Speaker 1: he's getting and miss and and he and he's you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's he's producing. I think that's important. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of positives that you can
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  Speaker 1: bring up about this team right now. Patrick, Let's take
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  Speaker 1: a quick break and then we will start talking about
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  Speaker 2: All right, Patrick, Let's bring in Trent.
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  Speaker 1: He has been covering the Reds or well, let's ask him,
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  Speaker 2: It's a long time.
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  Speaker 1: It's longer than I've been around covering baseball, and Trent's
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  Speaker 1: you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, man.
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  Speaker 4: I'm okay. Besides you talking about how old I am.
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  Speaker 7: You've been covering the Reds since before I was born.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 4: Trent?
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  Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Reds. They're not a dominant ball club. They
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  Speaker 1: are not a bad ball club. They are the Cincinnati Reds. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: One thing that I'm gonna start.
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  Speaker 7: Like technological knowledge, like I exist somewhat. It was much
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  Speaker 7: better many years ago. The glory days were there. Now
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  Speaker 7: it's sometimes you go right, sometimes you don't.
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  Speaker 4: Fifty shot its coin flip.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's start with this starting pitching. It's good because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I did not expect them to be this good starting
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  Speaker 1: pitching wise. Uh, one of the best rotations going right, Now,
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  Speaker 1: what what's the standout is it? It's you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think everyone knows that Hunter well maybe not everyone knows,
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  Speaker 1: but most of people should know.
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Green's had a breakout season.
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  Speaker 1: He looks like, uh, you know, a stud what what
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  Speaker 1: clicked for him? And then what's going on behind him
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  Speaker 1: in that rotation?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, and it's pretty funny to like it's
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  Speaker 7: a breakout year and last agreement the All Star team
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  Speaker 7: like and so. But but it's a leveling up. You know,
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  Speaker 7: there is an All Star level, but then there's a
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  Speaker 7: young level.
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  Speaker 4: Right. I mean we've I mean you have X amount.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, what five hundred pitchers make the All Star
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  Speaker 7: Game every year after injuries and replacements and all that.
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  Speaker 7: So you know it's going from that top five percent,
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  Speaker 7: top ten percent to the top one percent. And you know, honestly,
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  Speaker 7: here's the thing with Hunter Green that is I pointed
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  Speaker 7: this out and I kind of said it to him,
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  Speaker 7: and he was like, yeah, I think you're right. Like,
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  Speaker 7: for a twenty five year old, the majority of his
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  Speaker 7: competitive pitches that he's thrown in his life in games
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  Speaker 7: that you would consider competitive, have come at the big
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  Speaker 7: league level because he was very he was monitored very
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  Speaker 7: tightly as as a prep player. He was a two
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  Speaker 7: way guy coming out of the draft. You know, he
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  Speaker 7: didn't pitch that much for his high school. I think
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  Speaker 7: it was like, I don't know, it might have been
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  Speaker 7: like eighty innings total in high school, then was short
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  Speaker 7: in the minor League's missed a year with tom Me
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  Speaker 7: John and then debuted at what twenty two, twenty three,
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  Speaker 7: twenty one, twenty two, twenty three something around there. So
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  Speaker 7: he's a twenty five year old who the majority of
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  Speaker 7: his competitive pitches in his life have been at the
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  Speaker 7: big league level. That's that's a learning curve, right, Like
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  Speaker 7: you kind of think about that and it's just mind blowing,
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  Speaker 7: and so he's kind of it's it's funny to say,
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  Speaker 7: but I think the biggest difference is is he trusts
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  Speaker 7: his stuff, and you know, it's that's a learning process
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  Speaker 7: because you know, when he got to the big league
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  Speaker 7: level for the first time in his life, he couldn't
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  Speaker 7: just outstuff people. You know, he wasn't so much more
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  Speaker 7: dominant than everybody else he faced, and it took some
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  Speaker 7: time to figure that out. And the thing that's different
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  Speaker 7: with him if you look at his strike throwing, he
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  Speaker 7: throws strikes and says, hey, hit it. I'm not going
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  Speaker 7: to let you off the hook by throwing it out
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  Speaker 7: of the zone. No, I don't care two strikes. I'm
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  Speaker 7: still gonna throw on the zone. Do your best.
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  Speaker 4: This is one O two yeah, and then and and
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  Speaker 4: and that might not be his best pitch. Wow, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: oh go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean I think that's a that's something a
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  Speaker 1: lot of young pictures need to learn, is when when
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  Speaker 1: they have nasty stuff, it's just hey, you throw strikes
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  Speaker 1: with it, don't be afraid. Just you can you can
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  Speaker 1: hammer the zone. These guys can't handle your stuff majority
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  Speaker 1: of time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, just that what.
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  Speaker 7: Was was being a being a hitter taught him like it,
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  Speaker 7: thing's really really hard. If I just throw it. You
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  Speaker 7: know a lot of these guys are gonna hit it,
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  Speaker 7: but a lot of them aren't. And even if they
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  Speaker 7: do hit it, okay, so what there's nine guys and
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  Speaker 7: a fence behind me. Now that that is tough for
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  Speaker 7: a great American ballpark because that fence is so far
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  Speaker 7: and so you you lose some of those but like
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  Speaker 7: that's also part of the maturation process. The best pitchers
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  Speaker 7: I've been around in this ballpark, the Johnny Quato's, the
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  Speaker 7: Luis Castillo's, the you know, whoever you name that they've had,
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  Speaker 7: they don't care about the park. It just doesn't They
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  Speaker 7: don't think about it because, you know, it's like it's
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  Speaker 7: like playing with a bad defense. You can't get upset
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  Speaker 7: about I don't know, name your your butcher in the
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  Speaker 7: field here, but you can't be upset when they hit
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  Speaker 7: the ball to the butcher and he butchers it. And
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  Speaker 7: it's kind of like the same thing. So you just
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  Speaker 7: kind of like, okay, what can what can I control? Well,
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  Speaker 7: hopefully if it's you know, I'm not gonna throw it
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  Speaker 7: inside to a right handed hitter if my butcher's at
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  Speaker 7: third pace, you know, or in left field, and so
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  Speaker 7: you just kind of like take that into consideration. But
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  Speaker 7: every once in a while it happens, you hit it
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  Speaker 7: there he boots it, and and and for Great American Ballpark, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: sometimes they'll hit it and it goes in that first row.
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  Speaker 7: I mean the amount, the amount of times a pitch
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  Speaker 7: sure has told me over my how many years, like
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  Speaker 7: seventy years you said, so hot. That's just like you know,
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  Speaker 7: that doesn't go out anywhere else, you know, And that
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  Speaker 7: was even in the dead ball era when I started.
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  Speaker 4: You know, So.
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  Speaker 8: What look at that beard you've been growing it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: it's never been cut. This is one hundred years of growth.
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  Speaker 8: Only the beard grows, not's my abilities or my maturity
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  Speaker 8: or anything else, cud just the waistline.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm curious, Trent, when you know the Reds you
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  Speaker 3: talk about extracting more from their young talent or having
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  Speaker 3: that mentality of controlling that you can control. Where does
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  Speaker 3: Terry francona factor into this?
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  Speaker 7: What is he like to cover on a day to
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  Speaker 7: day basis? You know, I keep kind of going back
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  Speaker 7: to again, this is before your guys times, you know.
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  Speaker 7: But but Dusty Baker. Uh, there's a lot of similarities
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  Speaker 7: with Dusty in that he is confident in who he
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  Speaker 7: is and his decisions, and he will take in other stuff,
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  Speaker 7: but ultimately it lies on him. And and he's not
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  Speaker 7: trying to prove anything to anybody because he's proven to everybody.
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  Speaker 4: You know. These are both Hall of Fame managers and
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  Speaker 4: for a reason, and so.
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  Speaker 7: They're you know, what if if Nick Crawl decides, you
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  Speaker 7: know what, this just isn't working, Hey, Tito, thanks and uh,
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  Speaker 7: go on your merry way.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure he'd be like disappointed that he
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  Speaker 4: didn't get it a chance, But it's not gonna kill him.
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  Speaker 7: You know, he's got he's got money, he's got uh,
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  Speaker 7: he's already got.
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  Speaker 4: A Hall of Fame resume whatever.
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  Speaker 7: So like, I think there's something about I don't know
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  Speaker 7: if there's a thing about managing scared or but there
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  Speaker 7: is a managery managing cautious for sure or or whatever.
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  Speaker 7: And certain guys, and quite honestly, like Craig Council has
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  Speaker 7: that as well, where it's just like, what's you gonna do?
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  Speaker 7: You know what, you fire me if I want a
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  Speaker 7: job a job the next time, it's okay. You know,
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  Speaker 7: It's not like us who's like, oh you fire me,
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  Speaker 7: Well crap, what else am I qualified to do? I mean, Patrick,
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  Speaker 7: you're qualified for anything.
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  Speaker 4: What are we gonna do? So what else? I would
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  Speaker 4: rather do nothing?
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  Speaker 7: But other than nothing because it doesn't pay well, I've
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  Speaker 7: tried it unemployment. Uh, the hours are great, the benefits
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  Speaker 7: are and pay is pat so I don't recommend. However,
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  Speaker 7: the benefits, I mean, the hours are great. But but
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  Speaker 7: you know, that's the thing. It's like, I think there's
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  Speaker 7: something about he's not gonna panic. Oh you know, we
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  Speaker 7: just dropped two with three to the pirates. There's no
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  Speaker 7: panic in Tito. He's been around this a long time,
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  Speaker 7: and it's kind of it's been fun for me because
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  Speaker 7: as as aht of noted, I've I've been around for
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  Speaker 7: a long time, so like, you know, I go back
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  Speaker 7: to my Sparky Anderson days or Fred Hutchinson or whoever
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  Speaker 7: else was managing, and and like.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like they know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 7: And it's funny because you guys have been around enough
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  Speaker 7: when you have covered someone for a long time that
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  Speaker 7: you know not only the answers but you know what
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  Speaker 7: questions and what type of answer questions will get the
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  Speaker 7: answer you're looking for. And it's been kind of fun
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  Speaker 7: to watch others who who are not as seasoned as
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  Speaker 7: I am. Is that the right word? Uh Like, just
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  Speaker 7: figure out what Tito's gonna answer and what he's not.
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  Speaker 7: And that is one of those things. I always love
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  Speaker 7: you get the comments, so you don't ask the hard questions. No,
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  Speaker 7: I asked the questions differently. I also don't always ask
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  Speaker 7: them on camera, thank you very much. Uh And and
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  Speaker 7: just because you ask somebody a question doesn't give you
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  Speaker 7: doesn't mean they're gonna give you the answer to.
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  Speaker 2: That you want.
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  Speaker 7: So it's one of those things. It's just kind of fun.
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  Speaker 7: There's there's a learning curve with any new manager. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: you guys felt that last year, right for sure, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and and so for covering someone it is just a
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  Speaker 7: little different.
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  Speaker 4: But it's been good.
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  Speaker 7: He's you know, I'm pretty comfortable with the guy who's
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  Speaker 7: an old school baseball guy.
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  Speaker 4: You get, you know, you have that rhythm that.
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  Speaker 7: You can get into and what's gonna what's gonna work,
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  Speaker 7: and what's gonna not.
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  Speaker 4: So it's been fun. He's He's obviously good at what
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  Speaker 4: he does.
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  Speaker 7: So whether they're you know, five hundred or five games
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  Speaker 7: under five hundred or five games over five hundred after
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  Speaker 7: sixty games or whatever it is, you know what he
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  Speaker 7: knows that's sixty games and there's no panic. And this
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  Speaker 7: team has kind of been up and down. But you
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  Speaker 7: look at the roster and like, Okay, yeah, this is
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  Speaker 7: a team that's probably a five hundred ish team. If
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  Speaker 7: things break their way, sure they can win eighty eight
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  Speaker 7: ninety games. If they don't, they can lose eighty eight
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  Speaker 7: ninety games. And I think we'll see that over the year.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm just I think it's nice. It is interesting
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  Speaker 7: to have someone who has that perspective that I think
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  Speaker 7: Tito wants to win every game, but he also realizes
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  Speaker 7: and this is a line I've used many times and
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  Speaker 7: I'm a big believer, and it is a manager's game
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: in the regular season isn't to win every game. It's
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: to win the most games. And those are two different things.
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: Now postseason win.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Sure, let's take a quick break, and I have a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: question about the offense when we get back.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Trent, I just want to say, before Arena Club, if
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: you were trying to very actively buy sell trade. It
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: was very complicated and used a lot of mail that
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: was unnecessary.
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: I don't know I even know how to do it,
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: But I'm glad we have Arena Club now because it's
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: a one stop shop for everything card related.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: It is and right now you can get twenty percent
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: off your first slab pack or your first card purchase
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: by going to Arena club dot com. Slash foul, use
• 19:30
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• 19:33
  Speaker 5: out Arena Club.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Go get after it, all right, Trent.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: The offense for me is where I thought this team
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: would be stronger. Obviously, Elie d la Cruz is not
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: having the type of season that some people expected. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: thought Matt McClain was going to be a huge catalyst
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: for this team. He's struggling. Will Bentson I think just
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: recently came back and one player of the week, that's
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: right right He's so is the offense trending in a
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: better direction right now? And maybe I haven't noticed? And
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: what's up with McLain and Ellie da la Cruz Because
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like, especially McLain, I thought he could be
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: like the guy that kind of stabilized things and got
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: them to be a more consistent offense.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm a big believer. I buy long term Matt McClain.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: I just do. I'm a big believer in Matt McClain.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: I think a lot of it is missing a year,
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: and like not only missing a year, but missing your
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: second year in the big leagues. That second year in
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: the big leagues is so difficult, and you add going
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: around for that second year plus missing a year and
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: being some time off you've got to give.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I am not panicking over Matt McClain.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: I think Tito has kind of done the right thing
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: where Okay, he put him in there at the beginning
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: he struggled, all right, Now not just put him at
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: the bottom of the order, you know, and and let
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: him go through.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: The Other thing with Matt is is I'm.
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: Gonna look at it, but it just feels like he has.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Hit the ball hard and gotten some bad luck.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: And you know, nobody ever wants to hear that, right, Yeah,
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: nobody loves hearing that, But it's also true sometimes because
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: in the end that's what you need to do. You
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: need to, like, you hit the ball hard, and you
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: hit it online and if you do that over time,
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: you'll be all right.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: And and so like you know, he's he really is.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Like just.
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: I'm looking at his his Wow, his swift right and
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: strikeout right are terrible. Yeah, but he's a good He's
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: hitting the ball hard right, that's the thing. It's just
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: making that contact. And I think that's timing right. We've
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: seen he can do it. It's just getting in that groove.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: And and I think that'll come around. But that's me.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Uh And and as far as Ellie goes is this
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: just is he And just like a mercurial player player
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: in general.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: Well, I think you know, a guy like Ellie is
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: going to have some streaks.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: And I think you know he he you know every day.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: That you show up and see him on the field,
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: he could be the greatest player you've ever seen, right,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: And I think you've seen some strides in. You know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: as bad as it looks, his strikeout rate is gone
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: from uh, the sixth percentile to the eleventh and Okay,
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: that's still not good, but you're getting better. You're seeing
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: those improvements. I think a lot of this is seeing
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: him try to become a more complete hitter, and that
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: has been helpful. He's you also have seen some what's
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: it called what I'm talking about to the you know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: you've seen some progress on the right side of the
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: belt of the plate batting right handed. So I think
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: that's good as well. And there's stuff and again I'm
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: I don't like ever reacting to small little bits, because
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: that's when, like you know, that's what observation bias is right,
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: it's overreaction to small samples, and baseball is a long
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: term I've seen better at bats from from Ellie de
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: la Cruz. I don't think there's anything that he's doing worse.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: I think he actually looks better because he's more balanced,
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: you know, it's not as up and down, up and down,
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: and and so again, maybe maybe it's me just being
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: like he and not wanting to look up why it's different.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: But maybe it's just.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: Like I believe in these two guys and I have
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: for a long time, and fifty games doesn't doesn't do
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: anything for me, just as like I again, Will Benson
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: had a fantastic week. Do I think he is the
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: second coming of you know, you know it could Is
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: he the second coming of of of Eli del Cruz?
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: Or is he the second coming of Aristide Sequino. Yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: you know, and and.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I'm not. I think if there's anybody.
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: Who can do it through your will and adjustments, it
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: is Will Benson, who's just an incredible, incredible young man.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: A young man. He's twenty six. Jesus, how old am I?
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: Why are you guys picking on me like this?
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's the thing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: It's like, those are two guys that I just don't
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: worry about long term.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to figure it out. I mean.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: And the other part is if you have them on
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: the field, they both changed the game.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: They really do.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: It's it's a matter of getting on base, and that's
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: going to be important. But Ellie de la Cruz is
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: the one of the best base runners in baseball. He's
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: taking fewer chances on the bases, which I think is
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: good and bad. You know, like anything, it has its
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: positives and negatives, and he's kind of reflecting more of
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: what the manager's asking.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: So David Bell was a big believer in, Hey, we're
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: gonna press and sometimes we're gonna get thrown out.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: David Bell, like the contact play was on anytime you're
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: at third base, and you know, Tito's a little less aggressive,
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: and he'll say that we're still aggressive, but within reason. Well,
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: you know, previously they just said, hey, Ellie, do what
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: you want. If you think you can get it, get it,
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: whereas maybe Tito's messages closer to if you know you
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: can get it, get it right. There's a there is
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: a slight difference, and so we've seen that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: And it's funny.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: I've like got all these things like why isn't Ellie
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: hitting home runs? Why isn't he stealing basis, like, well,
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: he's got more home runs on the team than anybody
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: on the team, and he has more stolen bases than
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: anybody in the league. Okay, you know it's it's it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: all about expectations. That's kind of I think our expectations
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: for Ellie de la Cruz are I mean, they're show
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: Hay levels. Yeah, And and is that fair? And with
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: show hey, show hey it. You know where was show
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: hey at twenty two? Oh he was in Japan. He
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: wasn't even overhear yet, you know so I think that's
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: a lot of it is is what we expect. And
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: baseball is funny that way, whereas, like you know, most
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: other sports, you go to the gaming you expect. You know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: you're gonna see your guy and he's gonna you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Lebron James is gonna Lebron James that night. Well, baseball
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: you can go to like you can go to a
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: whole Angels series, well back in the day and say
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: Angels and say Mike Trout and he didn't Mike Trout.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: Or or my aunt here's a better example. My aunt
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: went and it lives in Arizona. She went to a
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: Diamondbacks Dodgers game last year.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: She got so.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: Annoyed because the fans right behind her were just screaming,
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: show hey the whole time or no, it's oh Tony,
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: because I can hear her say it, and she's like,
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: and he.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Went over four, he didn't get a hit. He staks.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: It's like, I think my aunt, like she's she's a
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: brilliant person, and I will trust her on anything about energy,
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: uh and and and those kind of things. She's an engineer,
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: but I don't trust her about baseball.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Call In terms of expectations here, I feel like the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Reds are one of those teams in the middle, like
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: that it's not as hopeless as Pittsburgh. They have not
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: maybe overachieved to the extent that the Brewers have in
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: recent years.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: When I watched the Reds from this distance, they always
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: have like nice, interesting position players. You have a pitching now,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: they're attractive enough to draw Tito off his couch in Arizona. Like,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: what is the scenario in which the Reds catch fire
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: and ruin the cub.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Season and chase them down in the division? Like, how
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: does that happen?
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: Okay, first, Ellie gets a little more consistent. Matt McClain
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: is Matt McClain. Austin Hayes stays healthy because when he's
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: been on the field this year, man, he hits Gavin
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: Lux continues to Gavin luck Bucks like it's I don't
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: think it's that far away. You know, you can squint
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: and see it. I'm not betting on it because I
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: know too much about baseball to ever bet on baseball
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: or in sports in general.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Because it's just I have long enough.
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: I remember his rookie year, Sid I bet this kid
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: will never remount to anything, and I was wrong. No,
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: So so like that that's part of it, and it's just, yeah,
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: I can see it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: There's a there's a way where it happens.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: And in this division you don't look at any team
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: other than the Pirates and say, I know what's gonna happen.
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: And even the Pirates you had some hope a while early,
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: real early, it's gone and shattered like you know it does.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: But like every other team, like the Cubs, I think
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: they're better offensively and don't know if that pitching holds
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: up all year. The Brewers, it looks like okay, I
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: mean they're they're kind of where the Cardinals were a
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: couple of years ago. It's like, oh your depeomagic died?
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: What happened?
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: And the Cardinals they're not very good. You look at
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: them and like they got hot and they did.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Well, But are they good? No, I don't know that
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: anybody in this division is good.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: Every four of the teams in the division can be good,
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: But is anybody like even what are we fifty games
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: in somewhere around there?
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Like where are we like?
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: And take away what I just said about betting and
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: that you shouldn't do that, although our sponsors would disagree,
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: I'm sure like, is there any team that you would
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: look at in this division right now and say, okay,
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: they're going to win this division.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, since we're on a Cubs podcast, I'm gonna
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: say that the Cubs have the advantage.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: But I don't. I'd never advantage, Like, yeah, you know
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: what they have.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: They have the money advantage right now.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're going to and they're going to be
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: very aggressive. Oh we lost Trent. Uh, well, I'm assuming
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to use technology.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, he's he's back. Did you just did you
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: just remove yourself?
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Trent?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: All right, well we'll.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Take we'll take the head. I tried to do something.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: All right, well this is oh my goodness. We're gonna
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: leave you with this.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Trent. Trent over under on Connor Joe.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Hits seven this weekend. He is a Cubs killer.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: You may not be aware of that since he's just
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: joined the Reds, but he will. He will kill the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Cubs this weekend. Just to give you a heads up.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: All the all the listeners right now are nodding along
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and cursing Connor Joe's name because I I've watched him.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: This will be the third or fourth team, maybe the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: fourth team he's been with, Yes, fourth team because.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Red when he's a rule five pick by the Reds
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: one year.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I've seen him.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I've seen him beat up on the cubs, with the Rockies,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the Pirates, the Padres, and now it'll be the Reds.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: He will he.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Will come up with a big hit, or he will
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: hit a three run homer. Something will happen. It's just
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: the reality of the situation. I'm just preparing you for that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Get your Connor Joe's story written.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I love that, you know.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: I say, hey, never bet on baseball. That's a terrible idea,
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: And yet here we are yet another betting line, the over.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: So I will show you, like how brilliant I am
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: that I know I'm dumb, and I'm gonna go with under,
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: which means over is gonna win, and I will look dumb.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: But hey, man, that's what I've done this whole time,
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: Like everybody was like, why do you have this idiot on?
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: He can't even work a computer, And and for that,
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: I just said, get off my lawn, crazy kids.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Grant, thanks so much for joining us. Make sure to
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: read Trent's work over at the Athletic. Appreciate your time. Man,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: We'll see you soon.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Take it easy, say you guys, all right? Patrick here
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: we go.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do our arena club player spotlight. Okay, Patrick,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I think the player we're gonna focus on today is
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker had six hits, six hits against Miami.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: He was kind of the guy that got things going
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday and Tuesday and Wednesday he got the he
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: got the offense going. He was the entire offense for
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: the most part on Wednesday.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: He has a one fifty seven way to run screat
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: at plus slash land two seventy eight, three eighty seven,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: five point fifty two. This man is everything the Cubs wanted.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: They paid a hefty price. You know, Cam Smith is
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: maybe not tearing the cover off the ball right now,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: but he's a young, talented kid.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Esak Pritis is doing everything everyone expected he would in Uh.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Uh is it DACD what's the name of the park?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: What in Houston let let let.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: On Field? Maybe I don't know.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: And you know, Hayden was nesk. He's on the shelf
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: with TJ. But still they gave up a lot to
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: get Kyle Tucker. I don't think anybody nobody should be complaining.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: This is just a remarkable level of production.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm trying to be less online, but you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: his Tucker's performance dipped a little bit, and I think
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: there was some chatter on social media about that. I
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: just think it's impressive what he brings to the table
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: every day, and that even you know, if he wasn't
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: maybe crushing the ball there for a little bit, you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: a couple games in late April, there are pockets in
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: May still contributing at a really high level, taking his walks,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: setting an example, taking pressure off teammates. I think, like
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: we started the show this season, while he's had some
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: unscripted moments thus far, the overall body of work the
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Cubs would have taken it in spring training, and like
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker is at the top of that list, like
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: really well liked teammates, like a tone setter for the
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: entire tire lineup.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: I think what Joe Madden.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Liked to call a force multiplier who just makes the
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: players around him better, Like the Cubs pieces just fit
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: nicer because of what he does in so many phases
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: of the game.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I absolutely agree force multiplayers a good way to
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: describe it. Takes the offense to another level. Obviously, young
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: guys stepping up. He's not alone in this lineup, but
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: he deserves a lot of credit for kind of bringing
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: it to another level. All right, Patrick, let's check out
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the slab pack we ripped from our friends with Arena Club.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So let's see who do we got here. This is
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: not Kyle Tucker from my understanding, it is Jacob Robinson.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: That is a fancy card.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I'm a card collector, Patrick, I collected a lot of
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: cards as a kid. I started collecting again in the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: pandemic with my son, so I'm into this.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: You know you can you can trade this.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: You can use the buyback program from Arena Club to
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: get Kyle Tucker's card if that's if you so want
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to these are This is fun stuff. I love collecting
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: with my kid. He actually got a bunch of stuff
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: from his grandpa recently. Even though he's a teenager now,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: he's still you know, I don't want to call him
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: out to his friends. Maybe maybe his friends don't want
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: me to say this, but he still opens cards with me.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's fun.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I just want to say before Arena Club.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: What I wanted to hit.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Right now, you can get twenty percent of your first
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: lab pack or card purchase by going to arenaclub dot
• 37:46
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• 37:51
  Speaker 1: slash foul, code foul for twenty percent off your first purchase. Yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, baseball cards I think are just kind of
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the heartbeat of baseball and my youth. I know that
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I did a lot of it with my dad, and
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  Speaker 1: I do it a lot with my son now, and
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  Speaker 1: it's still fun for me.
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  Speaker 3: I've had a similar experience of you know, did it
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  Speaker 3: as a kid and then as my son got into
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  Speaker 3: the game. Like, it's kind of amazing how cards are
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  Speaker 3: kind of timeless and how once you're at a certain age,
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  Speaker 3: like it really draws you in. And to get a
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  Speaker 3: Jackie Robinson, you know, a real piece of history. It's
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  Speaker 3: pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, Patrick, We will be back next week
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  Speaker 1: with more episodes. We will have a weekend slate of
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  Speaker 1: Reds games. We'll see the Reds are always dangerous and
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: they're painting the Cubs, but whether they're good or bad,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, we'll see how this weekend goes. The
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Cubs have been playing well through like maybe not. I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: think we both agree they're not playing their best baseball.
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  Speaker 1: But they're winning the games against the bad teams, and
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  Speaker 1: that's so huge. We cannot forget twenty two three and
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  Speaker 1: how that what happened when they sunk against some some
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  Speaker 1: bad teams early on in the season and that bit them.
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  Speaker 2: So win these.
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  Speaker 1: Games, win series, try and try and get through this
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  Speaker 1: easy stretch looking good. Uh and then and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see where they are come June or yeah, June
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  Speaker 1: and July.
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  Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much for listening.
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  Speaker 1: to everyone.
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