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3 Guys Before The Game - Sunk In Stillwater (Episode 525) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  So they've let us back into the studio, so I guess we might as
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  well do this thing. Welcome in One. In all, it's time for
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  of West Virginia and perhaps the continental United States. Efforting on those final numbers,
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  maybe world all precincts have not yet reported in this is episode number five
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  What I mean by that is senator as the breakdown analytically of West Virginia's
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  game against Oklahoma State and the WVU women's basketball conquest over the Cyclones of Iowa
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  stave inge motivation. Yeah. Absolutely, so here we go Hoppies over on
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  the other side. There, he's here. Good to have you back.
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  Good to be back. Thank you. We miss you on Thursdays. I
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  mean we were forlorn when you're not here. We come in the studio on
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  Thursdays and he looks at me. I look at him, and it's kind
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  of like, you know, our our patent ran away and we don't know
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  where it is or if it's coming back. When you say when you say
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  that about that, we do misally. That's not it. That's not how
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  I would view well, like a lap dog or something. Did you have
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  a good uh did you have a good week down there at the legislative session?
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  Yeah? Good one. Yeah, and fiery this week, wasn't it.
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  What's that A lot going on this week? Oh? Yeah, well
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  yeah, yeah, I enjoy it good. Any three guys mentions is while
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  you're in the rotunda, what was it? I'm not sure there were.
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  I mean you then you get some three guys, But you also get it
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  like what's up with forty six to twenty five? You know, you get
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  a lot of that's from that all the house bill? Yeah, house built
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  forty six twenty five, Right, so you get a lot of You've been
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  down there now a bunch. Now the newness is swarm off, so it
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  doesn't Field need to tell you. Yeah, exactly. It's good to have
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  you back. Good to have you back. All right, So, uh,
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  we've got a Mountaineer in the Super Bowl, Colton mckivitz. We'll play
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  for the San Francisco forty nine ers, starting at the right side tackle.
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  That was a nice comeback there. Did you know? I was going to
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  post this, but my hands were too too breadcrumb because I was making chicken
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  parm And maybe I will send that picture to you. Ask and I want
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  to show you my chicken parm I made. Boy, that takes a lot
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  of time. Anyway, did you realize, Grandison, do you really Grannis
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  Bell worked the game? Heard that? Yeah, yeah, he worked the
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  game. He called that. He called the blindside hit on the interception return.
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  He called that. He reported into the referee, saw him out there,
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  said there's Grannis. For those that don't know, Grannis Bell is a
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  member of the nineteen eighty eight Mountaineer football team and from the state of Florida,
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  and his son is a walk on here. Now Oh okay, yeah,
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  so granted. So that means Grannis is now knocking on the door to
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  the Super Bowl. Yeah, right there, he's right there with that guy.
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  So that's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. You have to be are you graded?
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  Do you advance by grade? Yeah? Yeah, so that means to
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  get a championship game's huge. Oh yeah, that's huge. So he is,
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  Yeah, he he's been after it does a great job. He worked
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  college, worked SEC, and then when SEC into the NFL. There's some
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  that say under Johnson one of the great mountaineers. Had he started officiating earlier,
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  he could have also had that. He just came to it late,
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  got to it too late, and then when COVID happened, he just kind
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  of pulled backing. Yeah, you didn't hear about him officiating. No,
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  he officiated college small. I mean he coul d two college, but they
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  the supervisor had to had to talk to him. Reason what now, Well,
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  when the other team, when the other team this is true, he's
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  a line judge. When the other team this is a true story, he's
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  a line judge. Yeah. So when the other team would run like a
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  toss sweep toward the sideline, his sideline, well, he would take off,
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  he would run faster than the ball carrier. He would be ahead of
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  the play, and they went like, yo, slow it down. You
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  have to see where he's going out of bounds. You can't see where he's
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  going out of bounds if you're in front of him. He just kicks in.
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  He kicks in like he's like a sleep. Yeah, he's sep.
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  He's like Pavlov's dog. He heard, he hears the bell. He's just
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  funny, but true. Was a lot of people said that under could have.
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  But I mean, I don't know how much of those guys make in
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  the NFL for officiating, but I think under it. I mean, all
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  right, he's all good. He's he's all good, he's financially he's all
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  good. He really he was only doing it for fun. Yeah, he
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  could have. But so anyway, congratulations goes to Grannis. All right.
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  So sunk in Stillwater was the title of this program. West Virginia falls seventy
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  to sixty six to the Cowboys, the only meeting between the two teams this
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  season. And I accepted and was really honored and humbled to get an invitation
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  earlier today to Hoppy's coffee clatch that he does on Mondays, his public affairs
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  program. And basically what I said was, I think what everyone thought it
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  was there for the taking, and you did not dot the I or cross
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  the T. Just didn't execute. In the final go round. They did
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  against Kansas, that's how they won that game. They did not in this
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  one. And you get yourself an l is that a a go ahead first?
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  These are instances where I like to reference the mythology in Sisyphus, where
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  you push the stone up the hill and it rolls back down. Push it
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  up the hill and it rolls back down. That's what it felt like in
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  this season and in this game. Because there were times in this game and
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  getting edwards back in their break, we thought, hey, they're playing pretty
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  well. They looked pretty good here, you know, a good ball movement,
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  making the threes, Lizinski and Kerkrisa making the threes where they looked I
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  thought like, oh okay, now it's coming together. And other times just
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  out of sync, you know, down the stretch, not making shots,
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  ended up getting out rebounded, ending up getting way out shot at the free
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  throw line, out rebounded. And so it was frustrating because, as you
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  said, Tony, it was right there and you're not gonna get many opportunities
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  like that on the road, and this was the one that you could win,
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  and I thought they were going to win. And then if you win
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  it, because everybody beats everybody in the Big twelve, you would move up
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  in the Big twelve standings and you come home for a home set and hey,
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  you make a get a little something going here. So a huge the
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  macro is a huge missed opportunity. If you had Sisyphus on your three Guys
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  bingo card, you can mark it off. Senator, Is this the appetizer
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  to uh, yeah, I'll give you. I'll give it just early.
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  You'll need a jingt. No, you don't have to do the jingle yet.
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  I'm with you, guys. It it felt like like you normally you
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  look at a game and you go, Okay, did somebody screw that up?
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  How did they just play? But how did you You got to the
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  end of that and you went, they lost exactly right. So it was
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  one of those It was I think you said it perfectly. It was there
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  for the taking. You shot it well. Again. I think that's the
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  hop to one of your macros. That's three straight games where you've shot it
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  well. So you walk out of there with that. Krisas Slezinski were very
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  good offensively you told me that on Thursday in our preview, that those two
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  would shoot it like that, I'd say, that's a win. Raykwon battle.
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  Can't just score five for this team. That's That's one of the lessons
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  we learned there. He's yeah, he's got to play. There were there
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  were some weird bad turnovers, some odd shots at times, just those moments
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  where you needed to win. Really, the difference came down to the free
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  throw line, though, let's look at that for a second. On Thursday,
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  Tony, we said that Oklahoma State does not get there much, and
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  they don't shoot it well when they're there. They're a bottom fifty team nationally
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  and free throw percentage. But we did add during Big Twelve play, they've
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  been getting to the line a bunch. That's where that had switched a little
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  bit. Well, they had a fifty percent free throw rate in that game
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  against West Virginia versus just thirty two percent on the season, so they got
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  there a lot more. We also noted they don't put the opponent on the
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  line much. Well, West Virginia just twelve attempts a twenty one percent free
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  throw rate versus thirty seven percent on the year. So those things flipped.
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  Oklahoma State comes out plus twelve, and they did the one thing that we
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  often looked for. They made more than West Virginia attempted ballgame right there.
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  There are a lot of other things, but that really was the was the
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  game right there. As I said, Westrens shot it well again, double
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  digit threes, forty six from three point land. You do that, you
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  like to think you get a win. They did not do well. Remember
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  identified two zones that you could take advantage of them right side, top of
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  the key threes and the right baseline corridor. Right baseline corridor, they're hoppy
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  mid range and three. They just didn't do anything from either of those.
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  Top of the key, they were one to five from three right baseline just
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  three attempts made one. So two zones and we said that's that is not
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  a zone that West Virginia attacks very well. And they just didn't didn't come
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  to fruition right there. Teams had been having a lot of success against Oklahoma
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  State at the rim. West Virginia did not just eight attempts at the rim.
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  Now, they did have twenty eight shots within fifteen feet of the basket.
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  In addition to making those trees twenty eight shots within fifteen feet, just
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  eight of nineteen from ten feet and in so just didn't close on those in
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  tight shots. Again. Also defensively, couple quick things didn't stop transition at
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  all. Oklahoma State had their most points via transition in Big twelve play.
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  Twenty percent of their points came on fast breaks. They'd been around twelve percent
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  in Big twelve play, So Oklahoma State did a better job of getting down
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  the floor. Tony. I also, I think the crease of fouling out
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  late hurt because he was just on fire. I mean, and he's a
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  guy that would you would have wanted to taken a shot late, and he
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  just wasn't in there because he felled out. If you took the team names
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  away and just had a blind box score, you'd probably say which of those
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  two teams won. So West Virginia makes more field goals, made three more
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  field goals, made two more three point shots, only got beat by five
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  boards, had one fewer turnover. You go like, that team probably won
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  the game. But twenty six free throw attempts something plus twelve points. That's
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  the game. That's why I led with that. That's that's that's the whole
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  thing. All this other stuff is just window dressing around it. It's your
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  minus twelve with three throw line. You gave a tough time wins. And
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  that's the Kansas game. West Virginia won the Kansas game because they made more
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  free throws than Kansas attempt And you know, and Tony, what's frustrating is
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  and obviously you were there, is that that's not that's not a hard place
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  to play. I mean they got they got no crowd, they hadn't won
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  a conference game. I mean there it was you're not gonna get. You're
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  not gonna That's about the best opportunity you're gonna get this season for a road
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  wins. Yes, when you figure you still have trips to Ames, Manhattan,
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  Fort Worth, Austin, Cincinnata. Yeah, that was the one.
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  That was the one that you're going to have your best probability. Not to
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  say you can't win at the other places, but that was your best probability.
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  Day. Here's one other category we talked about on guarded jump shots.
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  On Thursday, Tony said, both of these teams allow unguarded jump shots.
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  Oklahoma State's been making teams pay. West Virginia just doesn't get very many could
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  they. That's another one of those categories that if you didn't have the free
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  throw disparity, you would have been thrilled if you're West Virginia gave up eleven
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  unguarded jump shots to Oklahoma State, but they only cash that for nine points.
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  I mean, that's exactly what she was there for. You left them
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  open, they missed their shots. You got twelve points out of your onguarded
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  jump shots, so you were plus three points in that little niche category there
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  that I thought West Virginia had to win. They did win, but couldn't
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  get over the free throw home. One thing that's frustrating for me is the
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  turnovers. Now you look at the number and it's only one above your season
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  average, you had twelve. But still with that being said, if I
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  go back and look at those twelve turnovers, some of those make you want
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  to say a swear word. Yeah, because just stupid soft with the ball.
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  Turnovers drive me crazy. Stupid and soft, Yeah they were. And
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  Tony, I don't know what was up with raekwon battle. I mean,
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  maybe something's in his head, but I mean some of those just were with
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  all due respect, just like you, what are you doing? I mean
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  like you said, soft or just bad passes, bad turnovers on his part,
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  and at d opportune times it seemed like and they took advantage. Okloma
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  State took advantage of that. Yeah, he certainly wasn't alone, though there
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  were some other guys that did that. And you're right, Tony, it
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  wasn't the volume of turnovers or the volume of points that came off turnovers because
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  they only scored eleven in that situation. But there were some that were just
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  like, what, how why is that a turnover? Were you doing there?
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  Why'd you just jump in the air and just throw it right to what's
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  happening there? So in a game that you only lose by four, that
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  you're winning with ninety seconds to go, those are things that they just,
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  I mean, just bad mistakes, just didn't take advantage it was there.
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  You just didn't go win the game, which you had an opportunity to do.
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  this team have games where where they where they can where they can score a
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  lot of points. But if one other guy has twelve, thirteen, right,
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  eight, Yeah, all you needed was that six or eight. All
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  you needed was a guy to get six or one other guy yeah, or
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  a couple less free throws from them. Yeah, you're right. There didn't
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  I'll save a comment until later on that. Okay, that's gonna be what
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  we're in a We're in a state that is, I get surrounded by other
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  states ntiguous state and we're not like Hawaii. They're out there by themselves and
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  they get nothing touching them. We are not like Hawaii. That is accurate,
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  sir. Hey, we don't talk before we start the program, as
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  you probably can tell, but we talk. Our conversation. Our conversation before
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  the show normally goes like this, you ready, You're good, You're ready,
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  You're good. Okay, let's go. But I sensed and you can
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  concur with me or not. Hop Yes that the junior over here like he
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  loves his spreads on stats numbers. Did you get that feeling? Oh yeah,
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  he just kept saying you just I got you just wait, I got
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  I got I got it, I got everything that even got mentioned. He
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  said, just wait, just wait, let's wait. Hey, what about
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  the women's I got I got it, I got it, I got it,
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  I got it. Do you go to the women's game? I did.
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  Let's start there. Nice, Oh we're starting women's. We're gonna start
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  there. It is impressive talking about closing down the stretch. As I said,
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  you know, I wanted that game. I wanted the Iowa State game
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  bad because I spent two hours watching the first game when they blew the nineteen
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  point lead. I wanted revenge. I'm not sure you were the only one
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  there. She wanted Revenge's really good, guys. Yeah. I mean when
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  you have a player that can make shots and is at times unguardable, that
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  make it pretty good out sid shots, create retake it to the basket floaters.
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  Yeah, career high thirty one. Hello, you think she's having fun?
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  Yeah? Great system for her. By the way, she also had
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  six rebounds, five steals, three assists, thirty one thirty one, six,
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  five and three. Thank you for JJ Quinnerley. Very third quarter numbers.
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  Third quarter numbers were sick, right, I mean she had like I
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  thought, she had a big third quarter. Is that right? Okay,
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  go ahead, I saw a highlight where she gets like a partial screen.
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  Girl didn't come over the screen. She's late. Yeah, so here we
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  take care of this. Put this in your eye. She was good.
• 22:37
  The team was was really good. From three shot forty eight percent, which
• 22:41
  ultimately is the win. But a couple things. Remember we talked after their
• 22:45
  last game. Ioway State did a great job of shutting that lane and the
• 22:48
  pain off. Western had a sixty two percent attempt rate at Iowa State from
• 22:52
  three, so sixty two percent of Westernia shots were threes. Talk to Mark
• 22:56
  on Friday on sports Line. He said, yeah, that's that's a high
• 23:00
  for us. They got it back down into the range where they're more comfortable
• 23:03
  forty two percent three point rate. So now you're balanced top, you're hitting
• 23:06
  threes, but you're also quinnerly taking it in on them. Iowa State still
• 23:10
  did a good job of protecting that lane for the most part. Four players
• 23:14
  on West Virginia's team with three steals or more. Ooh, how about that
• 23:18
  for a swarming defense? Number twenty six twelve points off turnover advantage, So
• 23:22
  that was big. But here's the one this jumped. Iowa State made more
• 23:27
  free throws than West Virginia attempted and lost. Whoa doesn't happen on Operation airation
• 23:34
  happened often plus eight at the line for Iowa State and they lost that game.
• 23:40
  Here was the moment though, that really jumped out to me and how
• 23:44
  this is what you were asking about in pregame. Westernina was having trouble with
• 23:48
  Iowa States. Big Audie Crook's many crooks. Yeah, very good. She's
• 23:52
  a freshman twenty five and sixteen boys twenty five and sixteen, and even more
• 23:59
  impressive than the She just was on guardable at times. If she would set
• 24:03
  up down deep in the paint, just forget about it. You had you
• 24:06
  had no shot when she would get in there or catch it. Really skilled
• 24:10
  and really skilled, good hand player, good hands, tremendous size and just
• 24:15
  back you straight down in. How they did what'd they do? They double
• 24:18
  team front, so they were trying they would try and front her and she'd
• 24:22
  get around. They would try and send somebody down to dig. That's where
• 24:23
  a lot of the fouls came in because you're trying to swipe down on her
• 24:26
  and you're fouling her. I mean, she was excellent, but it was
• 24:29
  a great move by Mark Kellogg and then great execution by Danel. I hope
• 24:33
  I say this right, ori Ig Baboo, Yeah right, my closest hard
• 24:37
  to say. We just say Danel when she's in. So she came in,
• 24:41
  played just twelve minutes, but gave you five points, four rebounds,
• 24:45
  which was great in twelve minutes. But her ability to lean on Crooks and
• 24:48
  match size for size, I thought it changed the game late. So out
• 24:52
  of that five position, you talk about some some dual effort there, Kylie
• 24:56
  Blaxton early scoring points had fourteen points for you scoring out of the five,
• 25:02
  and then late you go to Danell who leans on Crooks and made it really
• 25:06
  difficult for her to score down the stretch. I thought it was a great
• 25:07
  substitution move and then great execution. Danell played her behind off in that matchup.
• 25:12
  How many minutes did Crooks play? You have that in front of h
• 25:17
  Yeah, because she can't go for like long long. She's not thirty minute
• 25:21
  game. She played a lot. You think she was over thirty she I
• 25:23
  mean they would give her blows, she'd come out and then come right back
• 25:26
  in. I'll tell you I'll get a lot right here. Yeah. Yeah,
• 25:30
  she was a handful. Remember she was a handful up in ames.
• 25:33
  Yeah thirty one minutes while she plays. Yeah, they just spot rested.
• 25:36
  They couldn't tag her out. She was carrying the load. They only had
• 25:38
  one other player in double figures. She was really good, but a lot
• 25:41
  of credit to Danelle for coming in and playing some serious defense. A season
• 25:45
  low in transition points for West Virginia just five of them, so they were
• 25:48
  really having to make Hay in the half court near season high on points from
• 25:52
  jump shots. And how about this, They crushed Iowa State on unguarded jump
• 25:57
  shots twenty four points, which was a season high and Big Twelve play third
• 26:03
  most for them all season on unguarded jumps out. So when they left,
• 26:07
  when they left, West Virginia shooters open made him pay. Sixty two percent
• 26:10
  of their shots catch and shoots are unguarded. Which here here's an amazing figure,
• 26:14
  Wesvirney sixty two percent of their catch and shoots on the year are unguarded.
• 26:18
  Sixty two percent, stunning. That's sixtieth nationally and sixth in the Big
• 26:22
  twelve. Wow, that should be like leading the country. But West Virginia
• 26:26
  made them pay for that. Also, shout out Jordan Harrison, six assists,
• 26:30
  no turnovers. So you talk about a backcourt of JJ and Jordan forty
• 26:36
  three points, seven made threes, eight steals, nine assists, only two
• 26:41
  turnovers and six rebounds from your back court takes that. Hello, that's a
• 26:45
  big win for a bunch of different reasons, but for Mark Kello because the
• 26:48
  opposing coach over there for Iowa State, like he's a legendary Bill Fenley.
• 26:52
  Yeah, six hundred plus, six hundred plus wins, So that's a good
• 26:56
  win. It's a great win. You think you think Fenley, You think
• 26:57
  Fenley gets a little bit bummed out. New guy comes into the league.
• 27:00
  Kellogg jumps out to seventeen and two. Probably all right, yeah, probably.
• 27:06
  It's the only thing. It's like neighbors. I mean, these new
• 27:07
  coaches coming to conferences. You're not supposed to you're supposed to pay your your
• 27:11
  come uppings. Didn't say nice to be here. Just came riting, just
• 27:14
  came right and said, hey, we're seventeen and two. See it.
• 27:17
  And Brad you were there, you and your daughter at one of your daughters
• 27:19
  in a good crowd, good crowd, really good crowd into it loud.
• 27:22
  Yeah, made a difference down the stretch and it was it was really good.
• 27:26
  They bring out that that big T shirt gun did not didn't bring it
• 27:30
  out, did not, didn't even bring out the uh, the slingshots.
• 27:33
  Just throw them straight, just throw. Just they went to school, just
• 27:37
  throw. They went analog, they didn't go analog. Yeah, probably a
• 27:40
  liability issue. M yeah. One do you think that is that that cannon
• 27:45
  has to go in for like service or something like that. Maybe could you
• 27:49
  check on that, see like where's the cannon? No, don't check on
• 27:52
  it, Like did they bring it over to that baseball banquet use it for
• 27:55
  there or something? I don't know if the ceiling was high enough there.
• 27:59
  The way I saw the baseball team practicing yesterday in a downpour, why wouldn't
• 28:03
  they just their practicing less than a month away? It is close, that's
• 28:07
  than a month away. It is close. So Alec Manoah was at the
• 28:11
  baseball Leader heard that John means as well. From what I'm told, John
• 28:15
  was her too. Awesome. So both major League basketball All stars back in
• 28:18
  attendance. That's great, that's great. There's my High State wrap up.
• 28:23
  Really seriously, really impressive win, especially given the free throw disparity. There
• 28:27
  are some calls maybe that I would have during that game. What kind of
• 28:32
  calls? Well, just some some calls hmm. Example, wow, I
• 28:38
  just didnt get the home whistles? That would you say? No, one
• 28:41
  didn't know you. They shot more than you show, they made more than
• 28:42
  you shot? How many? How many shots? How many free throws the
• 28:47
  crooks get? I would imagine she probably went to well, but they with
• 28:49
  their poundinger, So you wonder you're sending her to the wine right? Some
• 28:53
  other misses? Yeah, she didn't have that many. Well eleven nine have
• 28:56
  a left? She shot that she she's got a nice touch. Nine to
• 29:00
  eleven. Yeah, yeah, okay, so there you good? All right,
• 29:04
  let's transition. Nah, let's do the quick hit here, hang on,
• 29:10
  please thank you. We now moved to the Oklahoma state, West Virginia
• 29:18
  and where he did that? Yeah, never mind, you know preview the
• 29:22
  Bearcats, that's what it was, Tony, that's your next game? Will
• 29:30
  I tell you a rundown sheet in front of him, he forgot to look
• 29:32
  at. I hope you can make it there, don't you remember the block
• 29:36
  We're going Cincinnati preview, Brad just said, we have a rundown sheet.
• 29:41
  We don't have a rundown sheet. I apologize Cincinnati Preview, Big week back
• 29:45
  at home. These guys scare me. I haven't done an ounce of preparation
• 29:49
  yet. I'll do it tonight. Yeah, but I've just seen them.
• 29:52
  Yeah, and here's here's my handle. You want to know my computer analysis.
• 29:59
  They will tell you what flavor gum you're chewing. They will hit you
• 30:03
  physically and knock the hell out of you. Yeah. And they're long.
• 30:08
  Yeah, and they don't care if they're home or away. They're gonna grind
• 30:11
  you. Two seven footers. They got size. So stop me if you've
• 30:18
  heard this before. Another elite defensive team comes in to the Colosseum. Seventeenth
• 30:23
  overall in defensive efficiency. They're an elite rebounding team. To your point,
• 30:29
  that they get after it. Fourteenth offensive rebounding. Let's see if that's gone
• 30:32
  up at all. Yep, it's gone up. Eleventh offensive rebounding, fifth
• 30:37
  defensive rebounding. Twenty percent of their points come on second chance points. So
• 30:42
  two things. Now, we always go, what do we say when you
• 30:45
  play a team that's really good defensive rebounding? Where are your points coming from?
• 30:49
  If you can't get in and get offensive rebounds. You better get to
• 30:52
  the free throw line, and you better make shots. So those are two
• 30:55
  areas that you're gonna have to do. So their offense, as I just
• 30:59
  mentioned, twenty percent of their points come off second chances, but fifty nearly
• 31:03
  fifty percent of their points come in the paint. Can you close the paint
• 31:06
  off? Because if he can't, then you've got some problems. That's similar
• 31:10
  to Kansas when they said you're not going to score in a lane and they
• 31:14
  took their they said, Okay, if you're gonna beat us, you're going
• 31:15
  to beat us from outside perimeter. But we're not. We're packing it inside.
• 31:19
  And you hope with Jesse Edwards's presence in there for for a bit at
• 31:25
  least, what did he play played fifteen sixteen minutes, so hopefully he's into
• 31:27
  the twenties here in this game. You hope his presence will be a difference
• 31:32
  maker. They're part of the reason they get so many points in the paint.
• 31:36
  Again, they have great size. But how about this for guards going
• 31:38
  to the basket? You ready for this? Put this on your notes for
• 31:41
  the game Wednesday. Tony John Newman's a six y five guard forty four percent
• 31:47
  of his shots are at the rim, and he's effective when he gets there.
• 31:51
  Skilling a six to six guard, he goes to the rim forty four
• 31:53
  percent of his shots day. Dae Thomas six foot guard thirty one percent of
• 31:59
  his shots at the ring. So they get guys, they're going to put
• 32:00
  pressure on you in the lane. You better find a way to shut that
• 32:04
  off. They haven't shot it particularly well from three. There's only one zone
• 32:08
  out of five around the three point arc where they shoot it better than twenty
• 32:13
  nine percent. That's the right corner. Now they've only taken twelve shots from
• 32:16
  there. So they want to get to the basket. They want to get
• 32:19
  in the paint, they want to hit the offensive glass. This is a
• 32:22
  game. You've got to find a way to shut off the inside. Have
• 32:24
  to handle their pick and roll as well. They're very good, and this
• 32:28
  one surprise you. What do you think pick and roll? Their best thing
• 32:30
  is the role man, so you've got to pay attention for that. But
• 32:32
  the ball handler will score if you don't pay attention. They'll like to post
• 32:36
  up. They killed Texas with the post up. The rest of Big twelve
• 32:39
  has handled them in there. They got nineteen points posting up against Texas fourteen
• 32:45
  points in their five other Big Twelve games prior to this weekend, Texas posted
• 32:47
  up. Texas stole the game there, right right at the end. I
• 32:50
  think that's right. Yeah, yeah, So this is one of those you
• 32:54
  don't have to go too far down the list. You've got to control the
• 32:57
  lane somehow. So can Jesse Edwards as you just mentioned, give you more
• 33:00
  minutes? Can he be a factor in there? Can he help you on
• 33:04
  the glass? And now can you continue for the four straight game? Can
• 33:07
  you make some shots from the outside? M quick and dirty Scotter report.
• 33:12
  There you go, tough. I was looking at the standings in the Big
• 33:15
  Twelve yesterday. Who I mean, it's just this Yeah, it's a it's
• 33:21
  a Everything is just mired up. It's just like sticky glue. Everyone's got
• 33:28
  losses and there's just nothing that's right. If West Virginia had one Saturday,
• 33:32
  they could have moved up to like seventh or something. Time for seventh.
• 33:36
  So the lowest, the lowest remaining Ken Palm rated teams on your schedule.
• 33:43
  I know we do this a lot, but it continues to amaze me.
• 33:45
  It's time I go to look at a game Oklahoma State at one eighteen,
• 33:49
  which just beat you, U c F at seventy two, beat you Kansas
• 33:53
  State at sixty five. Other than that, you're talking top thirty teams and
• 33:58
  you're talking one, two, three, four or five, top twenty eight
• 34:00
  teams. Every single game is in the NCAA tournament game everyone, Yeah,
• 34:05
  every team I said, every team you play is going to be in the
• 34:07
  encity. You see what you wouldn't have, Tony but TCU and Baylor it
• 34:10
  just went to double a triple, overtime. Just a battle on tc That
• 34:14
  was a great win for them, by the way, at Baylor, but
• 34:15
  boy, I got an off the court issue there with Baylor might be too
• 34:21
  hard to fix. What's that brand new arena? I gotta fix that camera.
• 34:27
  I told you that the other day. It's unbelievable. How does that
• 34:29
  happen? Money? Still? What arena? Brand new arena? And the
• 34:36
  camera angle is you're looking on top of any earl, any early male pattern
• 34:42
  baldness, you're seeing it. You're seeing that angle. It's the old Oklahoma
• 34:46
  State it is which when you were a kid, if you used to watch
• 34:50
  Oklahoma State back like in the seventies and the eighties. Yeah, we had
• 34:52
  to take a drama meme before you watch the game, otherwise you get motion
• 34:55
  sick. And when later in that it went up in Westernium was in the
• 34:59
  league and it still looks like yeah until they did that last seeing. So
• 35:00
  I'm imploring, I'm employing the officials at Baylor University. Would you please just
• 35:07
  swallow your pride, get rid of the seats where the camera is supposed to
• 35:13
  be, and put the camera up platform where it belongs. Here's why.
• 35:19
  Sure, you lose a little money in that seating. Okay, fine,
• 35:22
  but guess what your brand, You'll have more people watching your games than will
• 35:28
  ever attend your games in your building's history. So don't have a brand that
• 35:32
  is verbally communicating to people that you're a dizzy school. That's what I'm staying
• 35:39
  with. And your brand, your brand is you need to be straight shooters.
• 35:45
  That's what you need to be a level It's a level minded school,
• 35:49
  not a school that looks down on people. That's what that's my angle,
• 35:52
  that's what I would go to the folks with today's listen, do you want
• 35:54
  to be a school that looks like you're howdytoudy that you look down on people.
• 35:59
  You don't want that. You want to be a you want to be
• 36:00
  a perception of we're straight ahead thinkers, that's what you want. Can't watch
• 36:05
  your games. I can't watch your games. You can't do it. Although
• 36:07
  that was a good one against TCU. It was, Yeah, grinded it
• 36:12
  out man, double overtime. How about Iowa State taking Kansas. Kansas has
• 36:17
  now lost at West Virginia, at UCF and at Iowa State. Hey,
• 36:21
  well, of course the TCU game was even more impressive because it was at
• 36:23
  Baylor. But I mean, on the road in this league, tough,
• 36:28
  m That's why now you're home, you gotta make it uncomfortable, Brad for
• 36:34
  teams coming in here. Yeah, same holds true, right, yeah,
• 36:37
  you do. Same holds true for the other people. Since the Cincinnati games.
• 36:39
  One though, you're gonna we settle against uc If you're you're gonna have
• 36:43
  to have a little fight in you. You know you're gonna have stand up
• 36:46
  and be tough in this one. Otherwise I think they run you out.
• 36:49
  Really Yeah, they're gonna bang you. Oh yeah, yeah, they're gone
• 36:52
  bang it. It's gonna be a fist fight. If you don't if you
• 36:53
  if you don't come, if you don't come to fight. From the opening
• 36:58
  tip, you will get embarrassed. I'm just telling you. These are dudes.
• 37:04
  Compliments to their staff, compliments to their program. Coach West over there,
• 37:08
  you got it. Got tough, guys. You have to be tough
• 37:12
  to win in this league. You have to be physically be tough. And
• 37:15
  that goes back to what we'll talk about here a little bit in the officiating.
• 37:19
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  went old school with the State Pride logo all about pride, and I went
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  with uh. I went with the Peter malar vest A little little warm,
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• 38:45
  you were warm Saturday. What do you mean by that? I mean I
• 38:49
  have I could not look away from from your broadcast location where you looked like
• 38:58
  you were in coach on a on a on a budget airways. Okay,
• 39:02
  you were tight. That was a tight seating arrangement there at the scores table
• 39:07
  for your broadcast location. It is fair to say that Oklahoma State has the
• 39:14
  absolute tightest broadcast location in the league. You were jammed in there. You
• 39:20
  are jammed in there, and you need tony in fairness, and you don't
• 39:24
  ask for a lot, but you need a little space because you kind of
• 39:28
  one of these, you know, you kind established your personal space. But
• 39:31
  you were like this, it's tight. Yeah, it's tight. It's tight.
• 39:37
  Had some good students behind us. They were Oklahoma State fans. They
• 39:39
  were great. Put a big you know, we have a big Pelican black
• 39:43
  case that we carry our gear in, and our engineer just put it right
• 39:45
  behind him. I leaned back during the game. Those old boys they were
• 39:50
  getting pizza, so they just had two plates of pizza, had their drinks
• 39:52
  up on our plastic. I said, we're a good fellas. It's all
• 39:57
  good. It's all good. They were good. Didn't say peeped the whole
• 39:59
  game. Texter lmao. At today's episode of five twenty four, that was
• 40:06
  our last episode. Thinking about you guys usually has me rolling. Given Tony's
• 40:12
  penchant for spontaneous ideas on the show, I wonder what the over under for
• 40:16
  text to the next three shows will be now that Tony has asked you ever
• 40:20
  noticed that people never go three or four craps? My over hondor was two
• 40:24
  no craps. It was two and a half. Still laughing. Buckwheed in
• 40:28
  Chicago, originally from Morgantown. No, because Texter wrote in and said,
• 40:32
  I don't give two craps what the administrator at Oklahoma said about playing Country Roads.
• 40:37
  And I said to Brad, why do they always say two? Why
• 40:40
  don't they ever go like three? Or four and he said two probably gets
• 40:45
  it done. Yeah, probably Texter share the ball exactly what does that mean?
• 40:54
  Break it down for we civilians, it should mean with the objective of
• 40:59
  getting open sh It appears that it's being done on the perimeter without any success.
• 41:04
  Not sure what this outside passing is supposed to accomplish. If sharing includes
• 41:07
  the other team it's working. The bottom line is that this team doesn't have
• 41:12
  enough of the athleticism or talent needed to play a consistent game every outing.
• 41:16
  The ability to drive the ball and also have multiple three point shooters is not
• 41:22
  replaceable with effort or other means. No coach can overcome this deficiency. Not
• 41:28
  sure what miracle worker coach is out there and how would they have fared this
• 41:31
  year under the circumstances present. Any reasonable person could answer that where where we
• 41:37
  are going to be as far as winning games this year? Haven't heard any
• 41:43
  mention of recruiting for next year. If not a breakthrough huge success in this
• 41:46
  area, things are not looking up for the future. That comes out of
• 41:52
  Cambridge, Ohia. And that was signed by John Capabjanco. That's a heck
• 41:59
  of a Italian name. So I had looked that one up so that I
• 42:02
  should know what that means. That is the Italian version of whitehead. You
• 42:08
  know the American last name whitehead. Oh yeah, that's what Coppo head,
• 42:14
  Bianco white oh whitehead. Okay to your original point, John, share the
• 42:20
  ball, Yeah, that's become Share the ball has become a new a new
• 42:24
  phrase in basketball, basically short term of that is passed the hell out of
• 42:30
  it. Yeah, it's ball. It's just shorthand for ball movement. Right.
• 42:34
  I thought at times, and I defer to you guys on this,
• 42:36
  but I thought at times the ball movement Saturday was pretty good. They got
• 42:38
  a couple of those guys got open shots. Bread, What did you think?
• 42:40
  Let's frame is just a tick above the national average when it comes to
• 42:44
  assis straight, so getting better get there. I thought it moved around a
• 42:47
  little bit well at times, Saturday Texter, I too have wondered about the
• 42:54
  names on the back of the jerseys of Kerr and a Cook a Cook when
• 42:59
  this was being discussed on your last episode. I went to the WV roster
• 43:01
  and saw that a Cook's parents are named Angelina in Raak. Perhaps the names
• 43:07
  on a Cook's jersey is a salute to his parents. Go Mountaineers signed by
• 43:12
  John S Marshall, Saint Clairsville, Ohio. PS. Some of your listeners
• 43:16
  may not be aware that current ESPN football analyst Joey Galloway is from Blair,
• 43:22
  Ohiah. Yeah, I think you're right. So here's I think that's probably
• 43:28
  right about a cook. And we've talked about Kerr Kriesa having Kerr on the
• 43:31
  back of his jersey in honor of former NBA great Steve Kerr, so that's
• 43:37
  why he does that. I personally think it opens up a problem long range
• 43:42
  because as soon as that starts to become a thing, then who the hell
• 43:45
  knows what you're going to put on the back of your jersey. So probably
• 43:46
  at some point you need to go, like you get your last name on
• 43:50
  your jersey. Yeah, thank you very much. That's that's what it should
• 43:52
  be. Unless there's a kid that wants to put episode eight hundred dot com
• 44:00
  on the back of his jersey, then we'd be fully supportive of that.
• 44:05
  Texter, I'm sixty six, so take this with a grain of salt.
• 44:08
  I do think the younger generation likes some of the older music. I think
• 44:13
  it's due to movies. For example, Guardians of The Galaxy features prominently a
• 44:16
  seventy soundtrack grate flick. Going back a bit, who can forget the Marvin
• 44:21
  Gaye Tammy Terrell version of Ain't No Mountain high Enough? And remember the tal
• 44:25
  Titan shower scene? How about great balls of fire from the recent Top Gun
• 44:29
  movie. Lastly, how about shreks. I'm a believer, just a thought.
• 44:31
  Thanks for the show, Tony. I'm also new to Fakaca baking.
• 44:37
  My attempt pretty good? Oh, very nice, very well done. Yeah,
• 44:42
  it looks like you have some rosemary wedged in there. Pretty good.
• 44:46
  Keep it going. It's like anything else. It's repetition. Game Texter,
• 44:52
  longtime listener, first time texting. I was listening to your last episode walking
• 44:55
  through the Augusta riverwalk and seventy seven degree temperatures. I heard the reference to
• 45:01
  the fast approaching pontoon boat season. I wanted to share this picture with you.
• 45:07
  Greatly enjoy the show. Thanks for the West Virginia Insights stats and laughs.
• 45:12
  So there it is, folks. Like I said, it's pontoon boat
• 45:15
  season. Somewhere ye get down there, Lou Wendell Marine. That could be
• 45:19
  you and the Lou Wendell Try tune Avalon that's currently on special sale. Have
• 45:22
  the awning up on that one we just saw? Could you run that back
• 45:24
  again? Austin didn't need it there, hopy because the sun was on the
• 45:27
  audience. Where is that Augusta riverwalk like Georgia? Sure, Texter, I'm
• 45:38
  a late gen X guy and I love rock and roll. Hop what happened
• 45:43
  was on the last episode. To bring you back up to speed here,
• 45:45
  I said that younger kids no seventies and eighty music more than you would think.
• 45:53
  Okay, that was my premise. Anyway, this person says, I
• 45:59
  said no. He said no, he said. Growing up in Evansville,
• 46:02
  Indiana, we made many trips down I sixty four back to my dad's hometown
• 46:06
  of Beckley. One trip on NYD nineteen ninety five required my dad and I
• 46:14
  had to go all the way from Mount Vernon, Indiana, to Prosperity,
• 46:16
  West Virginia back the same day. When one classic rock station signal would get
• 46:22
  weak, you could generally count on another to be available. And after fifteen
• 46:25
  hours of driving that day, we heard carry on my wayward son no more
• 46:30
  than fourteen times Kansas since then, a long interstate trip with a return the
• 46:35
  same day is simply known as the carry Me Wayward Sun in our house.
• 46:39
  While we don't do nearly as many trips like that as we used to,
• 46:43
  I still think of driving up and down sixty four to find the next classic
• 46:45
  rock station when I hear the song signed by Clay in Morgantown formerly Lexington,
• 46:52
  Kentucky. Yeah it happens, man. And as those were the old days
• 46:57
  when you had your station would get weak, yeah, you'd find the next
• 47:00
  station. It doesn't happen like that anymore because well, if you have satellite,
• 47:04
  I mean you can still have. You never lose your crestial radio,
• 47:07
  right, or you stream like things like podcasts while you're driving. You never
• 47:12
  leave it, never lose it. We're pro radio here. Well, this
• 47:15
  is the new radio. Guys like you are still screaming out in front of
• 47:20
  building saying by the newspaper, do you help him bread. It's trying to
• 47:27
  transition. It's still audio hoppy. They're just delivering it differently. I understand.
• 47:32
  But we are largely a terrestrial radio company. Oh yeah, we're still
• 47:36
  strongly supportive of it. Sure, thank you, But there are other ways
• 47:40
  to eat. I understand that. Sometimes we wonder if you do, since
• 47:46
  we were on for four years and you didn't realize this wasn't live Michael,
• 47:51
  what Mike and Myrtle TC Senator and absentee ballot. I like the thought of
• 48:00
  the island effects, sure, but maybe it's a bit early. However,
• 48:04
  there is one shirt we have overlooked. What's the BMI? Hey, if
• 48:07
  you know, you know, and we're gonna know Saturday, Mike and Myrtle,
• 48:13
  Trey's guys, It's Saturday, twenty seven January, and I'm still not
• 48:17
  seeing the flying WV on our basketball coaches attire? Are they repping Western Vermont
• 48:24
  University? Last I checked, the beloved venerable Flying WV is still our brand
• 48:30
  logo. It's sort of like me addressing you as tray guys instead of three
• 48:34
  guys. Marketing police have been notified. Lindbergh from Lucato, longtime loyal listener,
• 48:40
  defender of the brand, pre s it's lucka Do. I missed that
• 48:49
  too. Well, there's this place in West Virginia, lucad Oh. And
• 48:53
  he says that the West Virginia people down there pronounce it luck a Do.
• 48:59
  And I said, that looks more like Lucato to me. So I'm not
• 49:01
  getting any of these regional things, you can't win. So is that skip,
• 49:10
  right, Brad? Yeah, I don't know, that's skip probably Okay.
• 49:16
  So the deal on the what coaches are wearing, there's a there is
• 49:22
  a pages of approved logos that West Virginia can use on at uniforms and that
• 49:30
  is one. And you're probably going to see what they're wearing going forward next
• 49:36
  year because Nike has heavy say and what they create, and so that's going
• 49:40
  to become a look. And if you're looking for the flying WV, it's
• 49:44
  all over the basketball uniforms Texter endgame. Hello, Hey, fella's quick question.
• 49:52
  Anyway, we can get fine looking fil to help the coaching staff out
• 49:54
  with some swag that has the flying WV. How about this? Really don't
• 49:59
  care for the current look looks like something from middle school League, Jeff and
• 50:02
  Columbus. So apparently the fashion wow was out there for Saturday. Personally,
• 50:12
  I don't care if they wore a burlap bag with no logo. How about
• 50:16
  win? Yeah? I like win winning burlap new T shirt. Everything looks
• 50:22
  better when you win. Larry from Hurricane am I the only one thinking there's
• 50:27
  a conditioning problem? A player gives seven minutes and he's gassed. That's not
• 50:31
  WVU ball. Am I wrong or what? I'll listen to your response.
• 50:37
  To be quite honest, I think that this team, because of the circumstances
• 50:45
  that surrounded it in the off season and the late roster acquisitions, has never
• 50:53
  did never did never have well that doesn't sound right, has never had the
• 50:58
  opportunity, did not go through the normal conditioning. This team never went through
• 51:02
  regular offseason conditioning because the pieces of the Pelzal weren't there. So maybe there
• 51:07
  is something to what you're saying, But again, the unintended consequence of what
• 51:12
  you're dealing with this season is the are these types of things, plain and
• 51:16
  simple. There's a reason you have off season conditioning because it just builds and
• 51:22
  that's what you build. And you didn't have that, and at this point
• 51:24
  in the season, you're not getting you you looking for rest him uh In
• 51:29
  game text, the ESPN Plus app is about as bad as wv's ball screen
• 51:34
  defense today signed by Martin and Martinsburg. Well, I can't help you with
• 51:39
  the ESPN Plus. As Hoppy properly stated, we're in radio. We're in
• 51:45
  radio. It's I just think it's it's you know, like it's always fun
• 51:52
  just to see where the camera is gonna go like this, y, Yes,
• 51:58
  it just kind of moves around. We're in transition, folks. Yes,
• 52:06
  here's a deal man. Everything has gotten worse than it used to be.
• 52:10
  How about that for a generalized statement. I don't know about that.
• 52:13
  It's not it has no There are a lot. Let me rephrase that.
• 52:16
  Let me put some form of context into it. There are so many things
• 52:20
  in our everyday life that have decreased in their level of efficiency for whatever reason.
• 52:29
  And that's one of them too. I mean, for example, the
• 52:31
  producer or the director of the broadcast on Saturday, they weren't even there.
• 52:37
  They weren't they're not there. They do it remotely, So obviously it's not
• 52:40
  going to be as good. Everything quality wise has gone well, I know,
• 52:46
  your quantity has gone up. Yes, okay, so you can see
• 52:51
  every I mean, look, Tony, the upside is in our lifetime you
• 52:54
  want to see the game. And I know you're a radio guy. I'm
• 52:57
  a radio guy, but in our in our lifetime, I mean, I've
• 53:00
  been around long enough to know, like, oh my gosh, the games
• 53:02
  on television to every games on television. Okay, and as Brad, as
• 53:07
  these networks who are paying a botload of money try to move people to streaming,
• 53:10
  that's what it's going to be. More games may be less quality,
• 53:15
  Yeah it is, it's less quality. Yeah, yes, all true.
• 53:19
  I do think the league has some responsibility here though that if you're going to
• 53:22
  push to a certain platform, you've got to ensure that the schools are putting
• 53:25
  the resources in to make the platform what it should be. Fair and we're
• 53:30
  paying extra dollars for that, I will say that, yeah, fair.
• 53:32
  I mean, I'm grateful for all of the content that's provided that is better
• 53:37
  than it was years ago, but you've got to get the some level of
• 53:40
  standard that everybody takes it as seriously as a network broadcast. That'd be my
• 53:46
  comment there. But you know this, Brad, that game Saturday had nothing
• 53:51
  to do with the schools. That's an ESPN broadcast. Yeah, so every
• 53:54
  I'm including everybody in that. There are some schools that you will watch and
• 54:00
  they are not up to part. No, No, they're not up to
• 54:02
  park. You know why because there's no because the leagues, the leagues ESPN
• 54:09
  is well, how do you say this? Here's one way to say it.
• 54:16
  The schools are not making any extra money based upon the level of subscribers,
• 54:23
  makes sense that they have no interest. They got no interest in making
• 54:27
  it look great because their dollar amount stays the same. They're not getting a
• 54:31
  percentage of ESPN plus subscriber money. ESPN gets that money, So there is
• 54:37
  no impetus for a school to demand No, it's got to be this,
• 54:42
  and we're talking about the non basketball, non football broadcast. There's no reason
• 54:47
  for them to do it. There's a minimum level of requirement that they have
• 54:51
  to fulfill and then that's it. But they're not making money or losing money
• 54:54
  either way. So why put our resources there if we're not going to make
• 54:58
  any extra money? Get it lipspeed, Texter. Hey, guys, West
• 55:07
  Virginia's decision making in the final ninety seconds of the loss was the poorest I've
• 55:10
  seen in quite some time. Wait, Amy Bonner just called another foul in
• 55:15
  the Mountaineers, Thanks Texter. Will referees ever be held accountable? Coaches can't
• 55:24
  comment, journalists can't talk to them. Clearly the conference doesn't care. I
• 55:30
  know every team thinks they get robbed. Thirteen more free throw attempts for Osu
• 55:34
  in the second half was the difference. Even ref apologist Tony noted the uncalled
• 55:39
  foul late one os Osu hacked to cook the when matters, and that thirteen
• 55:45
  shot differential in the second half did matter. So why are refs untouchable Evan
• 55:51
  in Iowa, Tony Ico. Well, it's not that they're untouchable, but
• 55:57
  they're pretty good close to being untouchable to a degree. So here's a blanket
• 56:01
  statement. What you wrote could be written by a Kansas fan a couple of
• 56:08
  saturdays ago when West Virginia beat them, same differential, same Okay, So
• 56:15
  it's gonna happen. It's not a matter of if it happens. It's going
• 56:19
  to happen. It's gonna happen. Get used to it. It's always gonna
• 56:22
  happen. Okay, that's one, two two. You have to play through
• 56:30
  that and just go into every game with the mindset regardless of what the officiating
• 56:35
  is, We're just gonna have to play through it. Do they screw up?
• 56:38
  Yeah, you should have seen the end of the two lane No Tulsa
• 56:47
  Hell Tulsa game the other night. Tulsa's playing someone I just happen to be
• 56:52
  going through scores, and I see the game super close with like twenty seconds
• 56:58
  to go, So I go like, I'm watching this, So I go
• 57:00
  to ESPN. There's point three seconds left, point three seconds. The team
• 57:08
  with possession is down by like one. So it's almost the only thing you
• 57:16
  can do is catch is you can't catch it. You basically just have to
• 57:21
  you gate. So they run this awesome play from the sideline. Guy puts
• 57:24
  it up over the rim. Guy backscreens, comes in, catches the ball,
• 57:30
  puts it up clearly in time shots. No good, but the guy
• 57:37
  who shoots it gets absolutely like UFC just just destroy them. Over the arm.
• 57:45
  Guy just rips him down to the ground. Guy falls back, No
• 57:49
  fouls called, no files call. They go to the replay monitor. Well,
• 57:53
  they didn't call the flop fall foul originally, so despite the fact that
• 57:58
  the guy just suffered militia wounding, they can't change the call and they wave
• 58:02
  it off. My point to all that is this, it's basketball, man,
• 58:09
  It happens every year. We sit here every year and talk about it.
• 58:15
  You have you just have to play through it. You got really,
• 58:16
  it's not changing, it's not going to change. Get through it. I
• 58:22
  saw it, Tony. I saw a game exactly like that where it was
• 58:25
  a point six seconds I forget what it might have been Clemson somebody, and
• 58:29
  and they threw the ball the link to the court bred and it was a
• 58:32
  Joe. It was Joe, the kid to transfer from Syracuse to Clemson.
• 58:36
  What's his name, Joji or Joe, Joe, Joe, whatever his name
• 58:38
  is. And he lost his mind and the defender and the defender took him
• 58:42
  out. It was a good block. It was a good blindside block on
• 58:45
  the guy. Like game's over on them. Just but what do you you
• 58:47
  know, what do you do? A couple of things, A couple of
• 58:51
  things on this both sides. Number one, it would be great if you
• 58:54
  could get some younger people and more people into the profession, which I did
• 59:00
  it for a couple of years, said I'm not doing it, I'm out,
• 59:01
  not dealing with fans out And that was as a low level as you
• 59:06
  could get. But you need some more officials. These people are doing too
• 59:09
  many games at a point in their lives where they probably shouldn't be doing that
• 59:14
  many games. Number one. Number two, I do think sometimes you have
• 59:21
  to have the officiating conversation and it's not just whining. It does affect games.
• 59:25
  We have conversations about coaches and people call for their jobs. We have
• 59:30
  conversations about players when they screw up by name and they're criticized. That's part
• 59:36
  of the game. So play through it. Yeah, yeah, you need
• 59:38
  to. But sometimes they do screw you, and sometimes the style in which
• 59:43
  they have decided to call the game makes a difference, and sometimes that switches.
• 59:47
  Then you have things pop up like Jerome Tang over the weekend. Do
• 59:51
  you see this story mm hm talking about one of the officials saying things to
• 59:54
  his players and then immediately calling two fouls on the player. Now, I
• 59:58
  don't know if Tang's right, if officials right, if that happens, if
• 1:00:01
  that actually happened, that's a problem. Someone better look into that, because
• 1:00:06
  if you have individuals that are taking over games like that, then that should
• 1:00:08
  be able to be discussed without getting fined. It's a major part of the
• 1:00:14
  game, and it's a super hard job. It is a really hard job,
• 1:00:16
  and I won't want no part of doing it, but it's part of
• 1:00:19
  the conversation if we're going to discuss everything else. In my opinion, I
• 1:00:22
  think that's a great. I think that's well said. And after a game
• 1:00:27
  when there's a controversial call, you can well, sometimes you can talk to
• 1:00:29
  the official, right is that right? Can you ever talk to the official?
• 1:00:31
  I mean technically maybe you could. I don't know what the policy is
• 1:00:35
  on the league, if there's a pool or not, but normally no,
• 1:00:38
  so probably Lee. Probably in conference tournament play, there's probably a pool reporter
• 1:00:43
  that can talk, but I don't think on a regular basis, I don't
• 1:00:45
  know if they can. A lot of times it's not about a one call
• 1:00:47
  at the end of the game that we focus on that gets it's more it's
• 1:00:51
  more style, and it's more style changing, and it's more you called it
• 1:00:53
  one way here than a different way. It's at times it does appear there's
• 1:00:58
  agendas and they don't like somebody in their make on. That's the stuff that
• 1:01:00
  I think is fair game. If you see that, I think that should
• 1:01:04
  be allowed to be discussed without a league finding people and without fans going bananas
• 1:01:08
  and saying you're winding. It's a legitimate part of the conversation when we go
• 1:01:13
  through everything. Hopy, I'm giving you specific exact in the weed numbers on
• 1:01:16
  how many shots you took from a certain spot of the floor. Certainly we
• 1:01:20
  can discuss refereeing style and officiating style and what it meant to that particular game
• 1:01:24
  without everybody losing their mind. There can be a logical discussion about that,
• 1:01:29
  because here's it matters, and it's mattered over the different coaches at West Virginia.
• 1:01:32
  Just take West Virginia. When John Beeline was coaching, did we talk
• 1:01:36
  pregame about what you needed from the officials in terms of style? Yeah?
• 1:01:40
  Didn't you? You say, Hey, you want official, it's gonna call
• 1:01:43
  it. You go through lane and get a forum shiver. Hopefully that official
• 1:01:45
  calls it. When Bob Huggins was the coach and you were playing Press Virginia,
• 1:01:49
  what'd you say, Oh, those guys swallow that one. Go beat
• 1:01:52
  on them. Don't say don't let it up. The other way. So
• 1:01:53
  style matters, and it comes into play, and it determines winners and losers
• 1:01:58
  should be part of the conversation. In my I don't disagree. I think
• 1:02:00
  the money involved in these games all the way around needs to also open up
• 1:02:07
  a higher level of accountability for officials. I do. I strongly believe that,
• 1:02:13
  but for this moment, in this day, you better get ready to
• 1:02:16
  play through it because it's gonna happen both sides. But the game is,
• 1:02:21
  the game is so physical now that I mean that the advantage disadvantage is such
• 1:02:25
  a big deal. So what Brad says, We need a level of consistency
• 1:02:30
  because it just varies, that's the most That's the unnerving part. Well,
• 1:02:32
  how many how often do you do a game because you know all these officials
• 1:02:37
  now and you sit down and you see the officials are on, go,
• 1:02:37
  oh, I see how this is gonna Oh no, exactly when I see
• 1:02:40
  the three when I see the three names, inside my my nonverbal goes like
• 1:02:45
  we're good, We're good. This guy is bad. We're gonna get screwed,
• 1:02:52
  and invariably it happens. Really Oh yeah, I saw one here.
• 1:02:54
  We had a home game recently. I saw him. He hardly ever does
• 1:02:58
  our game. I said, like, this will be a problem, and
• 1:03:00
  here he comes out like captain of the safety patrol. From the moment the
• 1:03:05
  game started. He wanted to be the big guy, wanted to be the
• 1:03:07
  big thing. Just horses ass always is, always has been. The scary
• 1:03:14
  thing is a lot of times the guys that are the biggest horses, butts
• 1:03:17
  are the guys that advance and you just look at yourself and go how why.
• 1:03:23
  Well, then, to your point, and to Brad's point, if
• 1:03:25
  you can see that, and you can identify that, and then then anecdotally
• 1:03:30
  that is backed up by what you see, then to Brad's point, then
• 1:03:32
  there should be accountability. Yeah, other than just somebody complains to the league
• 1:03:37
  office and you never hear about it. Well, yeah, guy, you
• 1:03:38
  get guys blown up. You get guys if you get enough coaches in your
• 1:03:43
  league. Okay, you get enough coaches in your league that go to the
• 1:03:46
  supervisors go, we don't want him in our league anymore. Got it,
• 1:03:51
  We don't want them. See, they're independent contractors. If you get enough
• 1:03:54
  push, but oftentimes a supervisor will come back and say, okay, you
• 1:03:58
  don't want him, So who am I supposed to get? Do you want
• 1:04:00
  me to go get this guy? No, we don't want him. So
• 1:04:04
  it's kind of like pick your poison. At least you know what you're gonna
• 1:04:08
  get with certain guys compared to that guy's not ready. And that's why you
• 1:04:12
  need more. You need more people. It's a really hard profession, just
• 1:04:16
  is it a hard gig. I get it. You need more. If
• 1:04:19
  they had more of a selection, there would be better officiating. Does that
• 1:04:25
  make sense? Yeah, sure, sure, if you had more. Now
• 1:04:28
  I do compliment the NBA. They will come out with their final three minutes
• 1:04:31
  of a game, right, That's what it is, the final three minutes
• 1:04:33
  where they will say how many with the miss calls were in the final three
• 1:04:36
  minutes of this game? Trying to take more of the accountability. I mean,
• 1:04:41
  did you see the end of the Lakers and the Warriors the other night,
• 1:04:44
  double overtime game. I mean it's hard as heck. I mean it's
• 1:04:48
  that's the NBA. Yeah. Anyway, m By the way, hearing that
• 1:04:57
  the football schedule coming out tomorrow, The Athletic had reported that it was supposed
• 1:05:03
  to come out Wednesday, but I'm being told it might surface tomorrow, which
• 1:05:09
  would be January thirty. Do you have any inclination as to I thought I
• 1:05:15
  thought we I thought it was already released as to what teams you were gonna
• 1:05:17
  play. But you don't have dates. They stuck in full schedule dates like
• 1:05:21
  when you have to fly do you get an off week between this game and
• 1:05:24
  that game? All that stuff, Okay, when you go through Tokyo to
• 1:05:30
  play Arizona, Like, what day do you have to believe? You have
• 1:05:33
  to have you have to have a stop over somewhere. The women's basketball stop
• 1:05:39
  a Chicago. I got a practice field in Omaha. See if you can
• 1:05:41
  get a practice in on your way out. Women's basketball team is playing at
• 1:05:45
  BYU this Saturday. Are they the first Mountaineer team to go that far?
• 1:05:49
  What time's the game? Well, they left this morning, is that right?
• 1:05:54
  They left before they play? They left before they play UCF on team
• 1:05:58
  did players that weren't playing at the third quarter of the Iowa State game,
• 1:06:00
  They got on a plane and went. Two assistants went with them for managers.
• 1:06:05
  By the way, Well, by the way, what a stupid soft
• 1:06:09
  move by b YU the other day? What was that? B YU students
• 1:06:14
  front each kid in the front of the the first row kid had an h
• 1:06:20
  O, R N S d own horns down. Each had a different letter.
• 1:06:25
  Yeah, they sat there. The school made the kids take the shirts
• 1:06:29
  off. Come on, I mean, I'm on, what a bunch of
• 1:06:33
  soft ass stupid on. We certainly wouldn't want to rival, but we want
• 1:06:40
  the We don't want to ruffle any feather. We don't want ruffle any feathers
• 1:06:42
  our first year of participation of the content. I mean, I get by
• 1:06:45
  used a lot nicer than a lot schools. I get it, But I
• 1:06:47
  mean, come on, Texas, why is everybody cowtown to Texas? Why
• 1:06:51
  were you doing it before? And why are you doing it now when they're
• 1:06:54
  leaving the league and it's horned? I mean, what are we talking about
• 1:06:57
  here? Can't say horns down to them? They get offended by you saying
• 1:07:00
  horns down? Come on, man? Did they really? Yeah? And
• 1:07:06
  then the coach after the Mark Pope is their coach postgame press conference, he
• 1:07:12
  addressed, I understand that there were some students that were wearing T shirts and
• 1:07:16
  that was removed before the game. And that's not us, That's not who
• 1:07:18
  we are. I know. Again, they're very nice fan base. What
• 1:07:21
  are we were great when they visited here? I just I just wish they
• 1:07:25
  would it would have been something, well, no, I'm not gonna no,
• 1:07:28
  no, no, Texas complains, No, it's gonna stay. It
• 1:07:31
  was on a shirt. Come on, I mean they are They're not great.
• 1:07:38
  They're great Texas, that's right, regardless of what happens we're blaming Texas.
• 1:07:43
  Texas's fault, not by you. Yeah, I mean they were great
• 1:07:45
  people by use, a great addition to this league. But like, don't
• 1:07:47
  do that. I don't do that anyway. Well it's I mean it's good
• 1:07:53
  for Texas. I know that horns down just bothers them to know, and
• 1:07:56
  they can't sleep, they can't function. The SEC schools won't do that to
• 1:08:00
  them. Those SEC schools won't bring it up at all. No, So
• 1:08:02
  they're fine. I mean they're going into they won't bother them. They won't
• 1:08:05
  get that at all. Anthony from White Posts LSU S. Somebody might pulling
• 1:08:11
  on their helmet with the news that Ohio State's football has at least ten million
• 1:08:16
  dollar payroll for twenty twenty four and Dion Sanders's sons just bought them a house.
• 1:08:23
  When the next round of conference alignment takes place, what are your thoughts
• 1:08:27
  if three conferences were formed based on nil amount high dollar, medium dollar low
• 1:08:31
  dollar playoff spots allocated as follows, four spots for the high medium dollar,
• 1:08:36
  two for the low dollar two at large. I believe the medium nil would
• 1:08:41
  outperform the higher dollar schools. People have a lot of ideas that go through
• 1:08:48
  their minds, and no, you know, the good schools, the top
• 1:09:00
  schools get the top players. Anyway, Okay, so it's just like,
• 1:09:05
  Okay, Ohio State's going to get this guy. It's not like West Virginia
• 1:09:10
  or Memphis was going to get this guy. It's just that this guy is
• 1:09:13
  now making a couple million bucks. So I don't know if it changes all
• 1:09:16
  that much. Texter Mourning Brad advanced aged, hoppy and tony, but he
• 1:09:25
  keeps calling you advanced age. Brad does like when you slid down the fire
• 1:09:29
  pole. He goes, well, that's something for him to be at that
• 1:09:30
  advanced age. I keep asking him, why does he say advanced age?
• 1:09:35
  Anyway? This is Fitty compliment. I'm the bad guy. Gave a compliment.
• 1:09:43
  You're better than me. What are you saying? No, I don't
• 1:09:45
  know that I could do it. That's why I said your advanced age.
• 1:09:47
  Your mobility on that pole was really impressive. Paining you a compliment. Fitty
• 1:09:53
  from upstate New York. Originally I'm from Fairmount, growing up in northern West
• 1:09:57
  Virginia. You grew up in the Italian heritage, whether you were of Italian
• 1:10:00
  decent or not. The staples are pasta, salad common meals. About twenty
• 1:10:04
  years ago, my food consumption trajectory changed forever. This will be interesting.
• 1:10:11
  One day, my wife mentioned that her friend Stephanie invited us over to her
• 1:10:15
  parents' home for dinner. I knew very little about her family, but a
• 1:10:17
  free dinner count me in Dinner today draws near. I find out that her
• 1:10:23
  parents were born in Italy and for dinner pasta and salad. Okay. Within
• 1:10:29
  minutes of being there, Steph's father poured me some homemade wine. As I
• 1:10:33
  enjoyed the wine, multiple conversations going on around were sentences would start in English
• 1:10:39
  and would be finished in Italian. I know that man. As we sat
• 1:10:44
  down for dinner, the homemade wine was kicking in, and from the downstairs
• 1:10:47
  kitchen emerged pasta with bread, no salad. I didn't even remember starting a
• 1:10:53
  meal with that. I never remember starting a meal that didn't involve salad.
• 1:10:57
  I figured, oh well, and started look around for the shredded cheese.
• 1:11:01
  I noticed what I thought was cheese across the table. Tony asked me if
• 1:11:05
  I wanted some, and placed two heaping spoons on my pasta. After a
• 1:11:11
  few bites, I came to find out it wasn't cheese, but instead bread
• 1:11:15
  crumbs. Luckily, my surprise was covered up by the silence that fell across
• 1:11:18
  the table. When I looked up, everyone was staring at my wife.
• 1:11:24
  She had folded a fork or two of her pasta into some bread and started
• 1:11:28
  eating like a sandwich of pasta sandwich. At the end of the dinner,
• 1:11:31
  the salad was served. We finished the night with a warmed coffee bean in
• 1:11:35
  sambuca. Nowadays, I rarely have pasta without bread crumbs, and I almost
• 1:11:42
  always eat our salad after dinner. So for the best food podcast in the
• 1:11:47
  world, First, have you ever heard of trying bread crumbs on pasta?
• 1:11:53
  It's a pasta, it's a starch. Also, your thoughts on salad at
• 1:11:58
  the end of dinner and how sacrilegious is it to make a spaghetti sandwich in
• 1:12:00
  an Italian home? Well, fitty my purview on this one two out of
• 1:12:06
  three you got a thumbs up. I've seen the bread crumbs. In fact,
• 1:12:13
  my dad would at times ask my mom to make them pasta and she
• 1:12:16
  would start with a skillet and just put bread crumbs in with just a teeny
• 1:12:20
  bit of olive oil, and she would heat those bread crumbs up and just
• 1:12:25
  keep moving them around, moving them around, basically toasting the bread crumbs.
• 1:12:28
  And then she would just get spaghetti and put it in there and it was
• 1:12:31
  like as dry as sandy. And my dad he'd eat that because he grew
• 1:12:38
  up poor and after them was like, that's their lobstering. See, No,
• 1:12:42
  that's interesting. My father in law born in Italy, I've never I've
• 1:12:44
  been eating pasta with him for twenty five years. I've never seen that.
• 1:12:46
  He'll be aware. I've never seen him do it the salad after dinner.
• 1:12:49
  Yeah, I've seen that very very not uncommon, very not uncommon. But
• 1:12:56
  your wife with this spaghetti sandwich thing, never heard of it. It's first
• 1:13:00
  to me. I don't think there is such a thing that's a double that's
• 1:13:02
  a double starcher it is, that's a double starch. I don't know,
• 1:13:05
  man, I'm not in an like that. Brad wants a spaghetti sandwich?
• 1:13:10
  Can you put that on? I do that. So the next text comes
• 1:13:14
  from hot Rod in Woodbridge, Virginia, and there's too many numbers on it
• 1:13:18
  to make sense in oral form, and we didn't have a time yet for
• 1:13:27
  our unbelievable elite graphics department to make this into a graph. But you guys
• 1:13:30
  help me with this and we'll see if we can get his point. Hey,
• 1:13:35
  three guys, if Hoppy's around. I noticed the last two Mountaineer games
• 1:13:39
  there have been a disparity in free throw so I'm wondering since it appears the
• 1:13:43
  officiating has been horrible for the most part in the Big Twelve. My theory
• 1:13:46
  was that the home team gets the benefit from officiating. So I did a
• 1:13:51
  little research on the last two West Virginia home games compared them with the last
• 1:13:57
  two away games. So at home against Texas, West Virginia took eleven more
• 1:14:02
  shots, no made eleven more shots, and took twenty more field goal free
• 1:14:09
  throw attempts. At home against Kansas, they made seven more free throws,
• 1:14:14
  and they took seven more shots. At UCF though they took fifteen fewer shots,
• 1:14:19
  made fifteen fewer, and had fifteen fewer attempts. Okie State negative twelve
• 1:14:26
  in makes negative fourteen in attempts. See where he's getting at there, yeh,
• 1:14:31
  home team gets more file shots. I also took a look at six
• 1:14:34
  other Big twelve games this past Saturday. And here's what I found for the
• 1:14:39
  home team in the maid in the attempts, Houston was plus sixteen plus twenty
• 1:14:44
  two, but Iowa State was minus five minus one. Oklahomer was minus one
• 1:14:48
  plus five, Baylor was plus ten plus fourteen, BYU plus three minus one,
• 1:14:56
  Cincinnati plus ten plus sixteen. As you can see, overall, it's
• 1:14:58
  a wash out, as it was even in three of them and disparity in
• 1:15:01
  three. Interesting though that even Baylor had the advantage in free throws, but
• 1:15:05
  they still lost in overtime, and the opposite for Iowa State. So there's
• 1:15:12
  a lot there. Excuse me, Well, I see what I was just
• 1:15:16
  gonna say. This doesn't break down home and away, but I will tell
• 1:15:18
  you in Big Twelve play only conference games only, West Virginia still sitting with
• 1:15:24
  the number one free throw rate in the conference. Wait a second, say
• 1:15:29
  it again. West Virginia number one and free throw rate in the conference.
• 1:15:32
  That means the West Virginia takes more free throws. Well, I mean not
• 1:15:35
  in a raw number, but in terms of free throw attempts divided by field
• 1:15:41
  goal attempts, they're number one. So it doesn't mean that they're getting more
• 1:15:45
  in just a raw number, but in terms of free throws taken versus the
• 1:15:48
  field goal attempts, they are number one in the conference. And with that,
• 1:15:51
  Beings said, that would make a lot of people go, are you
• 1:15:55
  kidding me? Right? Based on the tenor of the belief of the perception
• 1:15:59
  of the Yeah, we've done this for years though. That was really a
• 1:16:01
  staple under Bob Huggins. I mean, West Virginia has always been near the
• 1:16:05
  top and really one of the nation's leaders in free throw attempt rate. It's
• 1:16:11
  been it's been an important part of them scoring over the years. I guess
• 1:16:14
  put it that way. I see what he's getting at. But I think
• 1:16:16
  if you're going to hypothesize that in the Big Twelve you get more shots,
• 1:16:23
  you get more free throws at home, you really got to look at a
• 1:16:25
  at a at more games, got to look at the season all right to
• 1:16:30
  determine that. I'm sure someone will do that for us. Wow. Okay,
• 1:16:35
  Tony, thank you very much for taking a few minutes before the game
• 1:16:39
  to visit my son, Shamboo and I. It was really kind of you
• 1:16:43
  to take time, and we appreciate all you do. The game was sure
• 1:16:48
  ended poorly, but it was worth the drive to still Water. So Matt,
• 1:16:53
  and there's Matt and Tulsa. See now there's Matt and Tulsa, all
• 1:16:56
  right, And that is his pictron. That is his son, Shamboo.
• 1:17:00
  Now, Shamboo, I'm doing this off the top of my head. Sophomore
• 1:17:04
  defensive back. Strong. Can you tell he's strong? Like I shook that
• 1:17:09
  young man's hand, d back? Did you Now? We talked, We
• 1:17:15
  talked about recruiting. Probably gonna be a division to recruit. Doesn't quite have
• 1:17:20
  the blazing that mid four speed. More of a four, more of a
• 1:17:26
  four eight four nine guy, So it was great to meet those guys.
• 1:17:31
  And that's Matt and Tulsa. He went to school, went to high school
• 1:17:34
  with Quincy Wilson and now lives in Tulsa. Sure, and Shamboo is one
• 1:17:42
  of his adopted kids. And he's adopted a couple of others. And you
• 1:17:46
  could tell it's a good story. I asked, I asked Matt for some
• 1:17:48
  morning for so so while I get that, I get that picture made there.
• 1:17:53
  Right then Matt says to me, Hey, Tony, why don't you
• 1:17:56
  get your picture made up there with Jason? You know Jason. Oh my
• 1:18:01
  gosh, so there's there's Jason up there, and and he does say this,
• 1:18:11
  go ahead, discard disregard the fact that he was drinking a Pistol Pete
• 1:18:17
  beer in his hand. So the Oklahoma state mascot has his own beer.
• 1:18:21
  It's called Pistol Pete and if you drink too many of them, you probably
• 1:18:27
  we'll pistol your peak. I was thinking that, you said it so good
• 1:18:38
  to see Jason. Everybody was thinking it. So everybody was thinking it.
• 1:18:42
  Yeah, I asked, Jason, you remember he had that horrific injury golf
• 1:18:45
  injury, I mean just a compound fracture, and he has a rod.
• 1:18:49
  And it's like, I said, how are you now? You walking?
• 1:18:51
  Already said yeah, and he said jumped up and down on and he said,
• 1:18:55
  doctor asked me the other time I went, you want to take the
• 1:18:58
  rod and we're going to keep the rod in. He said, I didn't
• 1:19:00
  even know it was an option to take it out. But he's going to
• 1:19:01
  keep the rod in. So's he's doing well, doing great. Yeah,
• 1:19:05
  see the crowd filing in there. It was early. It was early still
• 1:19:11
  Texter. Hello, Gail from Martinsburg checking in with some more random observations.
• 1:19:17
  It's a funny thing. I'll be in a regular listener of this podcast permeate
• 1:19:23
  so many different aspects of our lives. I now find myself checking out the
• 1:19:27
  craft beer section of grocery stores for cleverly named brews that pay homage to the
• 1:19:30
  Dean. Picture number one is a recent fine named hop Tarts. It's a
• 1:19:38
  strawberry banana milkshake IPA. In case you're won, well, i'd say you
• 1:19:42
  what, I'd love to have some of that so I could just throw up
• 1:19:44
  immediately, you know, I might. I might take that. I mean,
• 1:19:46
  it sounds good when when ems needs to have someone immediately throw up,
• 1:19:51
  they should just carry that in the ambulance. Just quick, heart, we'll
• 1:19:58
  get the poison out of them. Right. Forget about the ipapaka sup some
• 1:20:01
  of that? I don't know. That sounds pretty good. What I mean,
• 1:20:04
  who was drunk? Who was IPA? I mean strawberry ban ani milkschack?
• 1:20:11
  Okay, fine, you add on the IPA. No. I'm also
• 1:20:15
  attaching not one, but of two pictures of manual pencil sharpeners they found recently.
• 1:20:20
  First one is the real deal, wall mounted and multiple openings accommodating various
• 1:20:25
  sized pencils. Second one caught my eye because of the color and the suction
• 1:20:29
  style base that engages or releases depending on the position. That is a nice
• 1:20:33
  one. That was. That was when the That was when they moved to
• 1:20:35
  the modern era. Exactly off the wall, off the wall, mm hmm.
• 1:20:42
  Finally, I would like to suggest a merchandising item of episode eight hundred
• 1:20:47
  adding a T shirt that reads unconfirmed. We've discussed that could be the perfect
• 1:20:51
  compliment to the efforting T shirt. Thanks for always brightening my day with your
• 1:20:57
  humor and your love of all things WVU. You guys are the best.
• 1:21:00
  Thank you, Gail. Thanks, thanks so much. Appreciate that very much.
• 1:21:04
  Professor Vinnie I heard through online rumor, Oh those are always good,
• 1:21:10
  through the that the West Virginia home opener against Penn State might be moved to
• 1:21:14
  Thursday night prime time. Any truth to this? I don't know. I
• 1:21:20
  don't know. We'll know tomorrow. We'll figure it out tomorrow if they release
• 1:21:25
  the schedule tomorrow would be good. Hey, three guys, more schools coming
• 1:21:29
  into the Big twelve. Everyone's going to try to get in the top half
• 1:21:30
  of the league. Can we afford hiring a coach? With no head coach
• 1:21:34
  experience. As you guys have pointed out, a wrong hire can set your
• 1:21:39
  team back years. Can Eiler become a good coach one day? Maybe?
• 1:21:43
  But right now can we afford to roll the dice? I know the season
• 1:21:45
  has to play out, but even if they win a few more doesn't change
• 1:21:48
  the fact that there are better coaches with experience we could get. I don't
• 1:21:53
  believe it will be easy to climb out of the basement. What do you
• 1:21:56
  think about hiring the wrong guy and find ours? What do you think about
• 1:22:00
  hiring the wrong guy and find ours get out of the bottom? Rin Baker
• 1:22:04
  is the Rin Baker Brad Athletic directors live and die by the hires that they
• 1:22:12
  make. Right, So the Neil Brown thing has been solved, and now
• 1:22:15
  he's going to have to make a basketball hire, Josh Eiler or somebody else,
• 1:22:18
  and that's that's his job, man, That's that's going to be his
• 1:22:21
  hire. So yes, yeah, yeah. The thing that we always said
• 1:22:30
  about if you make the wrong hire, it can take years to rebuild your
• 1:22:33
  program. That's less applicable than it used to be because of the transfer portal,
• 1:22:42
  And Nil agreed, especially in basketball. Yes, you can do a
• 1:22:47
  really quick. You can do it really quick. Look at for example,
• 1:22:50
  Grant McCaslin, the coach at Texas Tech. He is in the first place
• 1:22:56
  in the league. Now. That was he was with Wren at North Texas
• 1:23:00
  and took the Texas Tech job after their absolute good coach Kellogg last year.
• 1:23:05
  Right. But yeah, you can get this thing. You just got to
• 1:23:11
  spend it. Right. I was talking to was talking to a coach not
• 1:23:17
  at West Virginia last week, and he said, in basketball, there's going
• 1:23:26
  to be a real new position. It's in its infancy right now. But
• 1:23:30
  the real new position is a true, true director of player personnel that will
• 1:23:39
  become your gold standard, that will become your guy or girl that can say
• 1:23:46
  these are the pieces, you know, because it's not only a guy's about
• 1:23:49
  finding the piece, but it's about determining value. Mm okay, Because you're
• 1:23:55
  gonna have X amount of dollars to get x amount of people, and you
• 1:23:58
  have to put a dollar value on that, and you can easily make big
• 1:24:02
  mistakes like we're gonna pay this person a bunch of money, correct, but
• 1:24:04
  not this so value is huge. There's software out there already. Let's say
• 1:24:12
  Brad Let's say Brad played for me and he had a great career. I
• 1:24:17
  take Brad, and I want Brad. I'd love to have Brad back next
• 1:24:19
  year. But Brad's graduated, he's gone. But I take his numbers,
• 1:24:25
  right, and you plug it and I put him into a computer. Yes,
• 1:24:28
  and it tells me exactly who's available that fits that category. They might
• 1:24:34
  be in the portal, they might be playing at another school. But they
• 1:24:38
  give you Brad Howe. You know what it is. That's moneyball? Yeah,
• 1:24:41
  that's moneyball? Is that? And it extends to replace fifteen points and
• 1:24:44
  nine rebounds and I need a guy that offensive rebounds to this all every single
• 1:24:49
  spec that you want. Yeah, it'll give you a list of players.
• 1:24:53
  Then you begin your evaluation and you say, okay, let's take a look
• 1:24:56
  at him. Will he fit? He fits the numbers? What about person?
• 1:25:00
  Will he fit? That's where this thing is going. You just can't
• 1:25:03
  put together all star teams. You have to have this is how we want
• 1:25:09
  to play. Mark Kellogg, for example, he knows how he wants to
• 1:25:12
  play, right, so he'll recruit to his system of what he needs based
• 1:25:16
  upon his experience. Same thing here, so you can get better really quick.
• 1:25:21
  If you have the right people involved and get it, West Virginia is
• 1:25:26
  going to have enough money. West Virginia's going to have enough money to get
• 1:25:30
  what it needs to get to be competitive. It will, Okay, it
• 1:25:34
  will. I like this, So it's the first part. Yeah, and
• 1:25:36
  the guys you pay the most money to have to actually play and play,
• 1:25:39
  well, yeah, that's going to be that's part of it moving forward.
• 1:25:42
  That's an obvious statement, but that's got to happen. You can't. You
• 1:25:44
  can't have a lot of misses. No, you don't. You don't have
• 1:25:46
  the financial luxury to have big misses. When you're driving around the state and
• 1:25:54
  your fuel light starts to blink at you and says, guess what time to
• 1:25:59
  ref You know where you go? Don't you go Mart? You can go
• 1:26:02
  for go, you go for gold and go for gas, go for Gomart.
• 1:26:05
  Did you stop down on your way back up? I stopped three times
• 1:26:10
  on the way back and not once? Was it Gomart? Really? Yeah?
• 1:26:14
  Stop once to eat, stop once to take a nap. Did you
• 1:26:17
  on the way back up? You took a nap? Yeah? And you
• 1:26:20
  you have to hit the bathroom on the third trip. You have a few
• 1:26:24
  too many pistol pets. I forget, no, I think it was I
• 1:26:28
  forget what. I think it was just gas from how long did you sleep
• 1:26:30
  for? Like twenty minutes? Workda? If I get If I get it,
• 1:26:34
  I mean I'm driving back rather than bad bread, rather than like driving
• 1:26:38
  like this one. No, I'm with you, dude. Pull off at
• 1:26:41
  the rest stop, put the seat back, do twenty minutes, hard go
• 1:26:44
  and you feel like you just slept seven hours. Yes, yeah, Brad,
• 1:26:47
  Brad's a master of the friend. Is that you? He thirteen minutes
• 1:26:50
  for me thirteen minutes? So this is what he does. How about this
• 1:26:54
  one? He goes thirteen minutes, takes his iPhone, puts his alarm on,
• 1:26:57
  thirteen minutes, lays down, puts the phone out his chest, goes
• 1:27:00
  into my couch. I'll be working at my desk. He's sitting over there.
• 1:27:04
  He goes down when like in your office, like five o'clock, He'll
• 1:27:08
  come in for sports one because I'm going before the show. Well, he
• 1:27:11
  needs a lot of energy. He needs a lot of energy to do sports
• 1:27:14
  Line. This is a demanding show. Sports Line is very demanding, so
• 1:27:16
  he needs to be well rested and bouncy. But he'll go down for thirteen
• 1:27:20
  alarm rings. Feel good, let's go, let's go. Not every night,
• 1:27:24
  but it does work. Yeah, in the cave he got turned the
• 1:27:27
  alarm way up. Jump. Does he snore? No? I don't think
• 1:27:34
  so. M Logan from Greenbrier County, who we met down there in Ronziffort,
• 1:27:41
  wrote to tell us that he started a podcast. Yeah, good friend.
• 1:27:45
  We were inspiration to him and uh, he said, Uh, showed
• 1:27:50
  that logo, so he's got his guy's on logo. Mountaineer man Cave.
• 1:27:55
  Sure, welcome in. We will bury. You had to do it,
• 1:28:02
  he said. He asks, are any tips or suggestions that you could give
• 1:28:10
  on how to have a successful podcast? Not us. I appreciate the work
• 1:28:14
  you guys do. Thank you for being my favorite. Yeah, here's here.
• 1:28:16
  Here's my tips or suggestions. All right, and this might be too
• 1:28:21
  late for this. Start your podcast. Make sure you have absolutely no plan
• 1:28:27
  whatsoever as to what the name of it's going to be, what you're going
• 1:28:30
  to talk about, how long it's going to last, how often you're gonna
• 1:28:34
  do it. If you do those things, you could become three guys before
• 1:28:39
  the game. Are you fair? Do you think that's a bread everybody.
• 1:28:44
  That is how this was developed. Didn't know the name, didn't know what
• 1:28:45
  we were going to talk about. This podcast was started as a retaliation podcast
• 1:28:51
  because of Alan Taylor. He started a podcast. I got wind of it
• 1:28:57
  and I said, Alan Taylor's doing a podcast. I said, everyone's doing
• 1:28:59
  a poto. Let's go, boys, we're going to do a podcast.
• 1:29:01
  That's how it started. And ensure that all of your hosts are there for
• 1:29:04
  every show. Yeah, And probably the biggest accomplishment of this podcast is we
• 1:29:12
  ran Alan Taylor's ass into the ground. Now, easy on at who's now
• 1:29:17
  it's with the Athletic. He's my guy. He's a good dude. He's
• 1:29:20
  a great one, great great And by the way, make sure your podcast
• 1:29:24
  is live. Yeah, just to have fun. Man. I think the
• 1:29:29
  biggest thing that wears people out when they start podcasts, and I've talked about
• 1:29:31
  this before, is they're hard to do if this isn't what you do.
• 1:29:36
  And by that I mean like this is what we do every day, sports
• 1:29:40
  lines, every day, Hopy does his show I think a couple times a
• 1:29:43
  week, two to three times, and that's what we do. I think
• 1:29:45
  it would be hard if you weren't in this world of thinking of your next
• 1:29:49
  topic, I think that would be really hard. And if you have to
• 1:29:53
  step out of what it is that you do regularly in order to do a
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  podcast, I think that would become like it would stress me out. Now
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  what do I do? Now? What do I do? Now? That's
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  I think there's pod fade. Is what happens. So people start and they
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  fall off, but this is just this is what we do. So we'd
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  lucked out because this is what we do. For example, if you were
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  going to go into a bank and look at their books and do their accounting,
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  thank you, yes, exactly, like I would be like so far
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  out of my I'd be out of my company going seventeen plus forty six.
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  You guys actually have this much money in this matter. That's really good.
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  You guys are fine. I think the audit's good. You say you have
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  this much and they say you have that much. I don't see any reason
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  for us to be here. What do you wanted to add up to?
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  I don't think that's how it works. I'm just thinking of Tony. Oh
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  yeah, not a real of Tony. Now what do you need it to
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  we go, Can I give one last shout out before we're out of here?
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  Sure you can keep the music on from the women's game. Yeah,
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  women's game had some folks come up very nice I'm sure he's a Lloyd Lisa,
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  and then Ronnie and Matt Hellman Dollar from Grafton. James was not there,
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  but James is the one that gave us those key rings. You know,
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  those three guys came absolutely that in in traffic somebody three guys personally.
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  No, I didn't get a name. No, I let them in in
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  traffic. Oh okay, I didn't get a name. Somebody somebody flag bred
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  in the parking lot, trying to be neighborly. Yeah, good for you.
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  Let somebody in get long. You know what else we'll do Thursday is
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  we will recap the football schedule as far as what we think are the the
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  tough spots. I'm sorry, I'm gonna missay that. Yeah, well you
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  can come back. I love to have you. Well you got to wait
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  till four. Nope, love to have you. Can't do it. Sorry,
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  all right, we're up. Special thank you to our producer Austin Wright.
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  Three guys before the game episode. I think it's about five twenty five
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  something like that. See you m