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America. Good morning and welcome to the
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Mac and Jack Show. I'm Sonia, of course, Jack.
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Good morning again, Jack. You know we've been talking
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backstage, but wanted to welcome our audience in on today, this
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first weekly episode. Well, no, today's Wednesday, 2nd
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weekly episode. Lose track of time here today
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coming up on May 21st, 2025. We hope everyone's doing well,
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Jack. Of course, our NBA playoffs got
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off to a a, not really a shocking start.
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Of course, the Thunder and their nemesis, as we should say at
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this point. Well, I don't know the Minnesota
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Timberwolves exactly, a nemesis of OKC.
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I can't see any rivalry there. I could maybe see a little more
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of a rivalry, the Timberwolves and the Lakers, who the
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Timberwolves knocked off in the playoffs.
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But OKC was true to who they won the second-half of the game.
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Yesterday, they broke open a close game.
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All of a sudden, the Timberwolves had a hard time
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making a basket, in large part because of OKC smothering
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defense. And that's who they are.
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I mean that they don't have a lot of stars and that can have
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SGA, one of the best players in the game, obviously, But beyond
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him there's just a bunch of very good, good players like Chad
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Holmesbren, a very good player, Jay Williams, very good player.
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But it they went, they went on defense for the most part.
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They know how to play the game. They play old fashioned
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basketball, OKC and it showed in the second-half.
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What was Rudy Gobert weather? Rudy Gobert for a while?
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Rudy Gobert was looking so good that Shaquille O'Neal, who is
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one of his biggest critics, that I can't believe I'm saying this.
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Rudy Gobert turned into a force. He rooted Gold Bear was swept it
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in an ice cream cone. Yeah, he was.
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He was like a cotton ball. Shaq jinxed him.
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You know, when whenever you have a situation that somebody's been
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literally like your biggest critic and you finally get that
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praise or whether it kind of pumps your head up and as a
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result, he flopped. And so now today, Shaq's going
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to be talking about him the opposite.
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Like, OK, I was wrong. Clearly I should have kept my
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opinion and myself. I was right all along about the
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type of person he was, type of player.
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He was it. Reminds me of when Michael
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Jordan came back to a huddle with Luke Longley.
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Longley was playing great on the boat at that time, that game,
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and Jordan was amazed. He told him, and you are really
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good. I mean, you're outstanding the
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way you play. And then Longley reverted back
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to being very average. And then when he got back to the
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huddle the next time, Jordan told him, I'm never going to
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compliment you again. You know what was I talking
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about you. Know the the NBA, I'm
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paraphrasing 1/14/88 dominant game by the Thunder.
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I mean the T Wolves were mauled and Demaul Game 2 of course
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scores. Deceiving Sonia scores deceiving
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because it was a close game for a while, you know, and they
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broke it open in the in the fourth period.
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OK, well, I I know, you know, I know that this is what was
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expected. Even though the score is
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deceiving. I know that that people have
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literally predicted that the Thunder was going to run away
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with this series from the beginning.
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Like no matter who it was they played, people have OK C as the
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the Super competitive team to actually win it all.
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Jack. Yeah, I mean, I picked Minnesota
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to upset OKC in this series. Let's see what happens in the
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second game. But I'm going to tell you this,
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if the Wolves go out in this series and let's say five games
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something, I'm just throwing it X amount of games.
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I don't want to hear all this Anthony Edwards talk about being
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a big star. You know, we got to elevate you.
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He. Doesn't want it.
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He doesn't want. What he could yesterday.
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Julius Ramble was fine yesterday All in all, but with Anthony
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Edwards I hold him to a different standard.
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If Anthony Edwards is just an average guy out there, I could
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say he played a good game yesterday.
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But Anthony Edwards is expected to play like a superstar.
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If you want to be 1, you have to be 1.
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I remember what Terry Bradshaw was John Elway's biggest critic.
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He didn't like John Elway when the way Elway came out of
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college said well I I only want to play in California because
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it's warmer than he thought. He was a spoiled rotten surfer
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kid. John Elway lost his first 3
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Super Bowls. Terry Bradshaw didn't mean to
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poke fun of them. He said great players have to
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play great in big games. That's and it didn't mean it is
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a dig on Elway, but it's the truth.
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If you were a great player, you have to play great and big
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games. Now I can condone it more in
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baseball. In the case of an Aaron Judge,
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you play 162 games, you're playing so much you kind of run
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out of steam at the end. But in the NBA, you can't
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because one player can take over a game.
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You know, in baseball, a position player, it's hard to
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take over a game. But in the NBA, Anthony Edwards
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has got to take over, you know, a couple of these games if he's
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a superstar. And Rudy Gobert, that, that's
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the was the biggest trade in NBA history to me as far as a
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quantity goes. Because what Utah got in
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exchange for trading Rudy Gobert, what Minnesota had to
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give up. And Rudy Gobert can't just be a
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good player. Yesterday he wasn't even close
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to average, let alone good. I, I forgot he was out there.
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Gobert looked like a phantom. And I'm going to be honest, you
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know, we talked a little bit before the show started how Shaq
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had, you know, had been one of his biggest critics.
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And as soon as Shaq was like, OK, you know, he kind of came
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back a little bit, you know, Gobert, of course, a French
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professional. I mean, maybe it's the cultural
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thing. He was widely regarded though
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Jack before before yesterday's lack of of playing as one of the
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best defensive players of all time.
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Four time NBA defensive player of the year and seven time all
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defensive first team member leading the league in blocks and
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rebounds in previous season. They call him the Stifle Tower,
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but I don't know. I mean, it could compile staff
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sometimes. Keep this in mind when Gobert
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was with the Utah yet Donovan Mitchell on the team.
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They didn't win there. Now they have Anthony Edwards,
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Julius Randle go bad. That should be a great big three
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and they have depth as well as that.
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But I I don't put the blame on one guy.
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Let's see where the Minnesota shows up the Game 2.
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They, if they win Game 2 and OK C, the series is turned, you
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know, once again. But if they fall down to
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nothing, is Minnesota out of it? No, they're not out of it.
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But you could do the math to win four out of five against OKC.
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That's going to be real, real difficult.
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Well, let me ask you this, Jack. So he's had his own little
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battles here and there. You know, of course, he punched
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his teammate last season, Kyle Anderson.
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Do you think maybe? I mean, this was during a game.
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Do you think that maybe after that happened that maybe the
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critics really rolled in and we're a little bit more
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analytical of his actual playing?
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You're talking about Anthony Edwards.
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Anders Yeah, no, I'm talking about Gobert.
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Gobert, no, Gobert said. Yeah, I'm a little confused.
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Gobert's always been a timid guy, though on the court.
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He's not been the one that has instigated these fights that,
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listen, you were sent that it's going to be some shoving.
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You might get into it a little bit, but Gobert by nature isn't
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the most aggressive guy. I mean, Draymond Green came over
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and grabbed him from behind. Good morning.
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Richard grabbed him from behind. Yeah, but Gobert's not the type
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of guy who's an intimidator, per SE.
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Yeah, he got some nerve, Draymond Green, to try to grab
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anybody, but OK, let me. Ask you Sonia.
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Sonia. Who's your least favorite
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athlete? Draymond Aaron.
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Oh, Aaron Brown athlete. Yeah, athletes.
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It's so close between Draymond and Aaron right now.
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It's so close. If, if, if, if, if Aaron didn't
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treat The Jets the way he did, I would be indifferent.
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I really didn't pay that much attention to Aaron Rodgers
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personality until he came to The Jets.
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I was more so like, OK, he's a great player.
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The way he just from the onset of coming on with The Jets,
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just, you know, lackadaisical, you know, I'm here, you guys are
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there. I'm Gladys Knight, you're the
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pips type mentality. It just made me look at him
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different. And now that the that he's been
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released and the the way he is, I don't even want to say court
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at the Pittsburgh Steelers because I don't even know what's
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going on. It's insane.
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It's just he's a drama queen. He likes attention and it to me,
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I'm like, dude, you're either going to play or you're not.
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So it seems like Aaron is your least favorite and it takes
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framing a little ahead of them. OK, that's all I wanted to know.
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I'm not talking about Aaron Rodgers segment.
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Yes, of course. You know, we got the Eastern
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Conference game that's going to be tonight, Jack, at 8:00 PM out
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of Pacers game one against the Knicks.
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Well, should I say the Knicks are hosting the Pacers?
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Let me say something that angered me in indirectly.
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It has nothing to do with the game per SE, but it does in the
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sense after the Knicks beat the Celtics, they noticed a Tyrese
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Halliburton fan, an Indiana Pacer fan with a jersey on, just
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walking in the street, minding his own business.
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They were following him. They were pelting him with
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garbage. I mean, it's outrageous to me,
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as in New York, I'm absolutely outraged over the behavior of
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the Knick fans because it reflects on the city, reflects
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very poorly on the city. And I'm going to be honest about
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it. If Knick fans are that low and
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if they and if the majority of Knick fans were amused by that
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behavior, then I'm rooting for the Indiana Pacers to beat my
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team in my own home city. If that's the type of conduct
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we're going to display over a fan just walking with a jersey,
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minding his own business because he they're absolutely entitled
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the visiting team for fan to walk with their jersey.
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They're not making any statement.
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They're not poking fun at Nick fans.
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They're not rolling them in any way.
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They're just walking in the Dawn St. and the nervous someone else
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to throw something at them. It's absolutely sickening to
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hear that. And Halliburton invited that fan
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to come to game. I think for the Nick Pacer game,
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he invited him and the guest that fam.
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So with that said, I'm waiting for the Knicks because I think
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it in all probability was a small pack of idiots to why, you
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know, I wish there was a way to find out who they were, you
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know, have them pay some fine or something.
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Maybe have them pay the season tickets for this Indiana Pace,
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Savannah, pay for him to have a trip to New York next time or
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whatever. But but with that said, a lot of
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times he'd like to talk about who does it mean more to to win
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a series? Does it mean more for the Pacers
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and more for the next, You know, and just backtracking to the
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last series, I think it means a little more to the Timberwolves
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than OK, C to win it. But that's arguable, you know?
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But the Knicks and Pacers, I think it absolutely means more
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to the Nets. They lost to the Pacers last
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year in the playoffs. They went up to nothing to the
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Pacers and lost in seven games. And if the Knicks can't get to
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the Finals now, when are they ever going to get to the Finals?
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I mean, this is if the path has been cleared.
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The Celtics are out of the way. Kudos to the Knicks for clearing
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their own path. The Bucks weren't that good this
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year. The Sixers weren't relevant at
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all. And the Pacers are beatable
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team. They're very beatable team, but
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they're playing so good. Let me take that back when I say
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very beatable. They're not very beatable
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because they have been playing so good for a while, but they
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don't have the big name stars. It's just going on that team.
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It's a series. The Knicks definitely can win.
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Do I think they're going to win it?
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If I put my emotions aside, I'm going to call it for the Pacers
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and seven games only because of how well they've been playing.
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They use their bench a little better than the Knicks, but
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maybe that's going to change because Mitchell Robinson, you
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know, it's in the equation. You know a lot more coming back
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from the injury and he played real well in the Celtics series.
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McBride, you know, it definitely could be a big fact off the
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bench. So we'll see.
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But I look for seven game series.
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I don't expect anything. Less well, let me ask you this,
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Jack, because you kind of pointed out some of the stars
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that are on these teams. I I've noticed, not necessarily
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in the, the series where we are now, but just overall, do you
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think, and this is a, this is a really good question, maybe a
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debate question actually. But I, I do want to ask your
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opinion. Do you think sometimes that
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teams can just be so talented with the big name stars that
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they just kind of get in their own way to the fact that they
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don't perform at the peak that we think or that they really
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should be to try to get a championship?
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No, no, I don't. I understand your theory, but
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not in this case. I mean, the Knicks, big stars,
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Jalen Brunson, Bronson has a weakness.
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Sometimes it is they tries to do a little too much at times.
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I've seen him have the ball and just try to overpower the
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defense. You know, driving to the
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baskets, they cut him off. He doesn't have a good shot.
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He still goes up with it anyway. So sometimes Bronson is isolated
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a little too much. But look, when you look at the
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way he's performed for the Knicks, can you really be
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critical of it? Because, you know, a lot of the
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times he's performed magnificently and he's their
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main guy. You know, I was listening
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yesterday and they were, you know, I think was first take
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they were talking about and Spike Lee was on it can brunts
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and establish himself as the greatest neck of all time.
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And let's not get carried away and make him the greatest nick
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of all time as a one-on-one player.
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You know, Brunson's not better than Carmelo Anthony yet.
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You know, Carmelo Anthony wasn't a type of player who won in the
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NBA. You know, his game.
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He, I don't mean to say was a selfish player.
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He wasn't. But he didn't really play, you
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know, tenacious defense, OK? At times he wouldn't play
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defense at all, it seemed, but he was a great individual
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talent. And how do you compare Patrick
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Ewing to a Brunt? And I mean, come on.
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I mean, it's a different position, different player Wall.
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Like it's it's I think there's great players for great for
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different eras. Jack, I don't unless you have
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really like risen the bar, you know, you've you've raised the
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bar so high that it's almost unattainable.
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I just believe, not necessarily certainly in greatest of all
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time, I believe in players for every era and that's for every
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sport. You know, people can people can
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debate that, but if you break it down to numbers, then there are
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times that there is that one standout player that this
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they're so high that nobody's probably ever going to touch
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them. But then when you look at like
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comparisons of like maybe one or two or three players that they
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actually have stats that are so similar and you can't
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differentiate them, then the only thing you could do is like,
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OK, that was during that period like 30 years ago.
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We had, you know, this player now is that and you could
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compare them because that person has already set that standard.
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Yeah, No, I, I agree with you and you, you nailed it perfectly
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with different areas, don't you? I agree with you completely on
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that. But the point I maybe got a
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little off track where I was talking, but the point is this.
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If you had a Kobe Bryant, you feel you have a real superstar
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who could take control of the game and Brunson is taking
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control of games. But are you really going to say,
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oh, he's as good as Kobe Bryant, for example?
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Like, like, let's go. Like, woah, maybe when his
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career is over, we'll be saying that.
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I mean, I don't know. But I think we get a little
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carried away, you know, with that type of narrative.
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But the Nixon paces, it's just it's a great, great Game 2 great
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coaches. Rick Carlisle is phenomenal,
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arguably the best coach in the NBA.
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Rick Carlisle and Tom Thibodeau is a heck of a coach.
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He's come. On better start resting his
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vets, he better start knowing how to alternate that bench
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because those guys have to be tired jacked.
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If he does not learn how to alternate some of the bench in
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for at least a little bit of breather here and there.
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He doesn't even want to take his guys out when they're facing
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being fouled out. Like he just lets it ride.
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And I mean, those guys are playing like over 45 minutes of
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those games. That's a lot.
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Yeah, Mikel Bridges doesn't seem to mind.
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He's has like a high Moda, but you know, come crunch time, a
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couple of them are going to have to handle the ball.
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Notably, you know, Jalen Brunson did the balls going to be going
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to him at crunch time when you talk about the last few minutes
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of the game. But I think I mean I'm sure
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there's going to be you know, I'm I think at least that's
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going to be one or two blowouts maybe in this series.
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But for the most part, the games are going to be nip and tuck and
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they're going to come down to the wire.
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No, So, you know, we'll see. It's an intriguing series.
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It really is. You know the and what was more
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impressive to you? Let me ask you, Sonia, the
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Knicks beating this the way the Knicks beat the Celtics for the
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way the Pacers beat the Cavaliers, That that's a good
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question. That's a debatable question.
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What's? More of a debatable.
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Question we can't take up this Saturday because they would have
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started their next series. Yeah, I I feel like for now,
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though, the way the Knicks folded up the Celtics in that
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last game just surmounted everything.
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To hold every veteran star on that team, Jack to a single
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digit performance was shocking to me.
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I don't think I've ever heard of your whole, your starting five.
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Nobody even had 10 points. Nobody had 10 rebounds.
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There was, it was almost like, you know how they call it a
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triple double. This was like a triple single.
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Yeah. Oh well, the answer to me.
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I'm just I'm not sure what the answer is.
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I'm really not. If I had, if I'm pushed to give
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an answer, I'd say I was a tiny bit more impressed by what the
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Pacers did. You know, just watching them,
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the Knicks were able to capitalize on really poor Celtic
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shooting and Jay and Jason Tatum wasn't after game six.
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But the way the Knicks dominated, it probably wouldn't
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have made a difference, even though we'll never know.
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And but the Pacers also came back from deficits to beat the
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Cavaliers. And the way they did it, and I
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like the ball movement with the pace is just a little better.
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You know, if I had to draw a comparison.
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But intriguing. Yeah, and and let's not forget
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to Chris Porzingis was playing at a poor lay level because of
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him having this viral issue, the whole theory.
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So two big folks that clearly were difference makers.
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I mean, it's the same thing with the Warriors.
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Steph going down proved to be the cornerstone of that team and
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they just got annihilated quickly.
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You brought up Carmelo Anthony for a quick second.
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We were talking about comparisons.
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And so I want to congratulate. He and Michael Jordan are set to
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embark on their careers in sports broadcasting, Jack,
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specifically with the NBC's coverage of the NBA.
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They'll be starting up to 2526 season.
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Jordan, of course, will be bringing a special contribution.
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He's just going to be labeled as a special contributor to the NBA
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and WNBA coverage on NBC and Peacock, maybe just to get the
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WNBA some spark that they've, you know, talked about the laws
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that they have. And Carmelo Anthony will be
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coming as a studio analyst. And he's going to, he already
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has a podcast called 7:00 PM in Brooklyn with Carmelo Anthony.
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So he stayed true to the New York Times.
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And it's going to be interesting to see both of them in the booth
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and commenting, so to speak, especially Jordan.
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I'm going to tell you with Carmelo Anthony, I don't get me
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wrong, Dave, he won the national championship at Syracuse.
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He was a really devoted member to USA Basketball, won 3 gold
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medals. He never won an NBA title.
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I don't like hearing Carmelo Anthony say, well, had the
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Pistons drafted me, they would have won a couple of extra NBA.
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Championship he can get off, get off, get off you know he can set
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it on his podcast I. I don't.
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I don't, I don't go for it. I don't buy it.
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Yeah. I don't know what the answer is.
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Maybe he's right. Maybe he's wrong.
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I don't be. If I thought he was right, I'd
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say I agree with them. But, you know, who knows?
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But it sounds like whining. He forced his way out of Denver.
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He forced his way out of Denver. George Carl would argue with him
24:07
all the time. He got to play defense.
24:09
But it was, you know, beneath him to be a tenacious defender
24:13
per SE, you know? OK, but terrific player.
24:18
Don't get me wrong, he might be a great humanitarian, a nice
24:22
guy. He didn't get in trouble off the
24:25
court. So.
24:28
But I'm tired of these guys like speculating.
24:31
Well, if they took me, we would have won this, we would have won
24:33
that. If you have a track record of
24:36
winning somewhere else, then you can make that comment.
24:41
You know, I, I, I just don't want it.
24:42
I just don't want to hear it. And when you're, but the point I
24:46
was trying to make, when you look at Carmelo Anthony, he's
24:49
going into the Hall of Fame. Did he go in as a Nick or should
24:52
he go in as a Denver Nugget? Oh.
24:54
No stay with New York going in as a Nick going in as.
24:59
A Nick, What do you look at him more?
25:01
I look at him more as being a Denver Nugget.
25:03
Sonia, you're good at looking things up quickly.
25:06
Tell me how many years he played for Denver and how many played
25:09
for New York. It's pretty comprehensive.
25:12
I think, yeah, I think let's see, let me see what they got
25:16
here for him. And while I'm looking that up,
25:20
the NBA is also going to be bringing in some other analysts
25:23
that are coming in now. Let's see.
25:26
Carmelo was drafted in 2003, third by the 19 seasons in the
25:33
NBA from 2003 to 2011, which is 8 years with the Nuggets, that's
25:40
9. Actually I know 8.
25:42
Years. And then he played, yes, very
25:44
close, New York Knicks, 2011 to 2017.
25:47
He also played with the Thunder, Rockets, Trail Blazers and the
25:52
Lakers. I forgot about that.
25:53
OK, right, right, right. The other teams, they played
25:56
nine years with the Nuggets. 8 and 7-8 years, OK.
25:59
OK, thanks Steve O 8:00 and 7:00.
26:02
But sometimes it's deceiving, like if if you say a player
26:05
played 2009 through 2010, we think of it as one year, but
26:10
it's really two years, the two O 9 and the 210 season.
26:14
But the point is he played one extra year with the Nuggets, so
26:19
why are every assuming oh, he's a Knick player?
26:23
He didn't they they never went to the Finals with the Knicks
26:27
with him there. Neither did the Nuggets go to
26:30
the. Finals game he holds.
26:32
He holds records for the Knicks. He has the all time single game
26:37
scoring record for the Knicks. And they 2 points.
26:42
He's highly decorated. He's a he's a first ballot
26:45
inductee of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of
26:48
Fame. Like he got a lot of his stuff.
26:52
About that, that's fine. Wait, wait, wait.
26:54
Would he think he's got the first ballot thing because he
26:57
and that's because he's with the Knicks alone as far as being the
27:00
all time scorer one game. OK, let's just call Wilt
27:04
Chamberlain the greatest play of all time because he holds the
27:07
record 100 points for one game and no one has gotten in the 90s
27:12
before. So Wilt's number one, he holds
27:14
the record. Come on, son.
27:16
Don't tell me one game. Good for him.
27:21
I mean, listen, he was a great player.
27:23
Let me ask you, did you get a chance today?
27:28
Don't they get a chance to choose?
27:29
Like if it comes down to what? He had a hard time getting a job
27:33
at the end of his career. He had to reinvent himself and
27:37
be a second will. Look when Jeremy Lin came up
27:40
when Carmelo Anthony was hurt on the next and became an overnight
27:44
sensation. I mean, Carmelo Anthony
27:47
obviously a far better player than Jeremy Lin was, but Jeremy
27:52
Lin was creating a feel good story.
27:55
And when Jeremy Lin eventually moved on to Houston, Carmelo
27:58
Anthony tweeted something that was like indirectly like a put
28:03
down. You know, I, I didn't go for
28:06
that. You know, honestly speaking, it
28:08
was indirect, but it showed there was kind of like a
28:12
jealousy, like, oh, I'm the man, I'm the Dis, I'm the Dak.
28:16
Look, Carmelo Anthony, great player.
28:19
He wasn't any more of a nick than he wasn't a nugget.
28:22
That's the point I'm trying to make.
28:25
I mean everyone let. Them choose at some point, like
28:29
they're going to ask him, right? Is is that what happens?
28:31
Well, Mello was not as great a Nick player as Walt Clyde
28:36
Frazier. If you want to argue he was a
28:39
better player than Walt Frazier, that's a fair argument to make.
28:44
But as a Nick, there's certain players were with franchises and
28:50
we linked them to a franchise is the all time best player on that
28:56
franchise. And Carmelo doesn't rate because
29:01
he wasn't a career Nick. He was there what, 8 years,
29:05
which is a substantial amount of time, don't get me wrong, but he
29:09
wasn't a on the top of the list with the Ewings, the Walt
29:13
Frazier's, the Willis Reed's as being a great Nick.
29:17
So I'm going to. Ask you again, Jack, I've asked
29:20
you 3 times. When it's a when it's basically
29:24
a split like that. Do they allow the player to
29:27
choose where they want to retire?
29:30
I mean where they want to go down.
29:31
I believe so, yeah. Yeah.
29:34
And players do what they want. It's sometimes very difficult.
29:39
Look, a player like Reggie Jackson and his whole career he
29:44
played for he played for the Angels, the Orioles, the
29:48
Athletics, and the Yankees. The bulk of it with with the
29:52
Athletics and Yankees. He was with the Athletics a
29:54
total of nine years in his career and he was with the
29:57
Yankees a total of five years. He won three World Series as a
30:03
member of the Oakland Athletics, 2 World Series as a member of
30:07
the Yankees. Yet he elected to go in as a
30:10
Yankee, and Major League Baseball was OK with it because
30:13
Reggie Jackson created such a buzz during his time in New
30:18
York, like the three home runs in the last World Series game in
30:22
1977 when they won it. That I can understand that.
30:27
OK, I can understand that. But then Major League Baseball,
30:31
change your rules because Wade Boggs went in as a Tampa Bay Ray
30:36
and what did he do? Play one year with the Rays?
30:39
I guess they offered him some money or some deal, and that was
30:43
inappropriate. He should have gone in as a Red
30:45
Sox. Yeah, I, I don't know, Jack.
30:48
I mean, you know, like I always say, the verdict is still out.
30:51
I'm sure he'll choose to go in, you know, as a Knick because
30:55
he's so New York. His whole podcast is all
30:57
Brooklyn. He just loves New York and.
30:59
So I don't blame him. I don't blame him so.
31:02
He's not going to, he's not going to pay homage to the team
31:04
that drafted him, but OK. Look, Carmelo Anthony showed he
31:10
could. You could call him a winner.
31:12
He won a national championship with Syracuse that he proved
31:16
himself. You know, he was there one year
31:19
when the NCAA tournament that proved that he absolutely is one
31:24
of his three gold medals. He was with a stack team in the
31:27
Olympics, the other NBA stars. But look what he did at
31:31
Syracuse. How many players win NCAA
31:33
championships? Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
31:38
And what about Shohei? He's an Angel, but yeah, but
31:43
he's, he's an Angel to me. But Juan is a Dodger already,
31:48
so. No, he'll be when Otani retires
31:52
he's going to go in as a dodge and no ifs and buts about it.
31:56
The Angels didn't win anything with Otani.
31:59
They the team. There was no buzz around the
32:02
team side of Otani being on it when he was there, and Mike
32:06
proud of course too, though Tony's going to go in as a
32:10
dodge, assuming you know, he finishes out his career there
32:14
for the most part. Yeah.
32:17
All right, so moving along here, let's let's plug in real quick
32:21
some NHL news and we're going to go over the NFL, then we're
32:24
going to talk about a little boxing here.
32:26
The Florida Panthers versus the Carolina Hurricanes.
32:29
Panthers are one. And the last time these two
32:31
teams faced off, Jack, was 2023, and the Panthers swept the
32:35
Hurricanes. It's so weird for me to say
32:38
Carolina Hurricanes, Florida Panthers, because everybody
32:40
knows the Carolina Panthers are the NFL team that I.
32:43
Yeah, that's where we're on it, isn't it?
32:45
The Carolina Hurricanes? The people in Carolina say we're
32:50
playing the Panthers. It's kind of like the.
32:52
Little It's so weird. Of course, the Panthers.
32:55
Let me ask you this. I never asked you this before
32:58
with the Carolina Hurricanes. Are they nearly as populist?
33:04
The Carolina Panthers at the NFL.
33:06
No, but they so this is the thing there's a totally separate
33:12
fan base for that. They've tried in the metro area
33:15
so many times to pump up. I I think when they first came
33:19
out there was a lot of hype around them.
33:21
Then, you know, it just kind of fizzled out, especially with
33:28
with Atlanta at the time, they had a team, I believe.
33:31
I think that's who they had. I can't remember the Thrashers.
33:33
And then once that kind of filled out, something just
33:36
happened. There was a disconnect then.
33:39
I think the pandemic really kind of broke up the the heightness
33:43
around the Hurricanes, to be honest with you, Jack, they're
33:46
on an upward trend now. More people are tuning in,
33:48
especially now that they've run, you know, another championship
33:51
series back here for the Stanley Cup playoffs.
33:54
This is their third time, I believe, in as many three years
33:57
trying to get to the playoffs. I know for a fact if they win
34:01
the Stanley Cup, that will really create the hype that
34:04
they're needing. They've been so close so many
34:06
times. And of course, in the game 152,
34:11
Carter and Aaron, early goals for the Panthers, Sergey Strong
34:17
in the net, all that stuff. the Hurricanes had been 5 and 0 at
34:21
home in the playoffs. Jack, that's big and that's
34:24
enough to get the fans really engaged.
34:27
Of course, next game is Thursday at 8:00 in Raleigh.
34:31
So I'm looking, I mean, when you see them on TV, it's a, it's a
34:35
crowded event, you know, so the attendance is there.
34:39
But like I said, I think it's kind of like once they start
34:42
getting towards championship, that is that the fans and would
34:45
be fans start really kind of tuning in.
34:48
I've made a mental note to try to be more aware of what they
34:51
got going on year round so I can kind of be more versed in that.
34:55
And so I'm pretty sure a lot of other players.
34:57
But then you have your tried and true, you know, hockey fans that
35:00
are true fans and have been since day one.
35:03
Of course in the Western Conference Final, the Dallas
35:06
Stars are making a run for it again.
35:08
We saw them last year as well too.
35:10
This time they're going against Edmonton Oilers.
35:13
The series you know, we have not started yet starting tonight,
35:16
game one, 8:00 in Dallas. This is going to be a rematch of
35:20
the 2024 Western finals that they had.
35:22
The Oilers won in six games. And you know, I, I like to look
35:25
at the comparison. They literally run the same type
35:27
of series as the NBA, the same type of year and everything.
35:32
The stars have strong goal tending abilities with Jake
35:34
Orger and they have a deep roster.
35:37
So hopefully this will be their year that they can get back.
35:39
Of course they got Connor McDavid and Leon Drasco for the
35:43
Oilers, who are their best players going to be on tonight
35:47
as well. A lot of lot of hockey news and
35:49
stuff. Let's switch over to NFL.
35:51
We got just a few minutes. We want to talk about some
35:53
boxing news as well. They, I almost said the
35:56
shingles, the Eagles, everybody calls on the shingles have given
36:01
Nick Sirianni a multi year extension.
36:04
They have not really released all the financials, but they've
36:06
come up. You know, of course he deserves
36:08
his previous contract five years from the 2021 season when he was
36:12
hired. He's basically heading to a
36:14
Super Bowl. It's a a non factor, a no
36:17
brainer as I like to say that he would be getting this type of
36:20
contract. So congratulations to him and of
36:23
course other NFL news. Fred Warner with the 49ers gets
36:28
a big contract as well on yesterday or day before
36:31
yesterday. I know we were on air on Monday.
36:35
So it has happened since then. Five years, five year deal for
36:39
for Fred. Of course, The Jets, your team,
36:43
Jack has released Greg Zurling. It's a move signaling their
36:47
continued youth movement. They're trying to make their
36:50
routine more useful. You guys can see that going,
36:53
Jack. I don't know what's going on.
36:55
Good morning, Miss Linda. Hey, hi.
37:00
Hi, Linda. How you doing?
37:02
Jack, what happened? You guys are releasing y'all
37:04
trying to bring like just a? Lot.
37:05
What's the reason we lost a couple of games last year?
37:10
Missed Big Hicks. If Greg Sirloin had made a
37:14
couple of kicks, it would have changed the narrative during the
37:17
season before. He put y'all in a position where
37:21
you had to make those kicks. Your quarterback was the
37:23
problem. I mean, no, no, it wasn't Aaron
37:26
Rodgers. I could tell you God would get
37:28
the team in field goal position at the end of the game.
37:31
Sirloin would line up for the, you know, winning kick and would
37:35
go wide. That just bad.
37:37
Yes, Sirloin was bad last year, and you could look, look at the
37:42
two ways. You could say it was an off
37:45
year, bring them back, what can he do going forward?
37:49
But sometimes you got to change the culture in the room and the
37:53
fatigue and the team has their line around.
37:55
They're not going to have confidence that he can get it
37:58
done again. So they moved on from him last
38:01
year, actually, but it just became official now, was on the
38:05
injured list. And yeah, they just had to.
38:10
He's a. Journeyman, he's a journeyman,
38:12
so to speak. Do you guys, I remember him
38:14
playing, he's been playing for a little bit, but you know, I'm
38:19
going to be like this. This is this is always the
38:22
theory, you know, and this, this is not just for The Jets.
38:25
This is across the board because people have told me when I'm
38:27
like, oh man, my kicker cost us the game.
38:30
No, they did not. If your plays are played
38:34
throughout all four quarters, you don't put your game on the
38:37
line with your kicker. Like you just can't do that
38:40
because that's literally riding it.
38:43
It's it's like a 5050 every single time.
38:46
And so for me, I'm going to say that's that's a whole jet issue.
38:50
And it starts with the little toxic quarterback you guys have.
38:59
And you know now that now that you guys taking out the trash
39:02
with Aaron Rodgers, you may have a chance of winning a couple of
39:05
games next season. Yeah, yeah.
39:07
The Jets, in the next three seasons, we're going to go to
39:11
the playoffs one time on the next three seasons when may at
39:16
most win one playoff game. But I'm not optimistic about
39:20
that. They're going to feel like
39:22
Justin Fields is OK and at the end of three years, we're going
39:25
to see you. You know, we're not a threat to
39:27
win the Super Bowl and then we're going to have to have
39:30
another quarterback. I don't want to hear this 8 and
39:32
99 and 8th season and the Aaron Glenn and hear how wonderful
39:36
Aaron Glenn is. Please I I don't want to hear
39:40
about this. Y'all might turn it around but
39:42
you know I will tell you this. Go ahead and get your clinics
39:45
ready for the Panthers game because you won't be beating us,
39:48
but you might beat some other people in the South, but just
39:50
not the Panthers. Well, I'll take it week by week,
39:53
you know, if it comes along, but you know I'll.
39:55
Be rooting. Just say thanks.
39:58
They're Jessica getting younger, getting back with Nick Sirianni.
40:01
He had one year left on his contract.
40:04
Now this is what bothers me about coaches in general, how
40:08
they're perceived by the media and the fans who basically, I
40:14
don't want to say a clueless, but I'll say mindless.
40:18
OK, Normally if a coach has one year left on his contract, there
40:22
are two ways you could go with it if the team doesn't extend
40:26
the coach. The coach is a free agent at the
40:29
end of that season. They could play out the year.
40:32
And imagine if Nick Siriani said to the Eagles, no, I'm not
40:37
signing the contract until the end of the year.
40:39
He's he's a free agent. He could go to any NFL team he
40:42
wants. He could go to the highest
40:45
bidder. If you're not good of a coach
40:46
and teams are going to need a coach, he's going to have a job
40:50
somewhere. Maybe he's going to be in major
40:53
demand and if you're the Eagles too, if you really want him to
40:57
be a guy of the future, you're sure about it, you extend them
41:02
and that was a question for the Eagles to.
41:04
Make sure that was that was a. Smart thing to do because Nick
41:09
Siriani deserved it. He absolutely deserved it.
41:12
And the Eagles and Siriani both, you know, can come meeting of
41:17
the minds. I'm not sure what the dollar
41:19
value was, but I'm sure it was fair.
41:22
It's he has something like 5 years left with the Eagles.
41:26
That's the way you do it. I don't want to hear about
41:29
people complaining about a manager coach being lame duck if
41:33
they have one year left on their contract.
41:36
If you sign the, if you, in other words, Sonia, if you sign
41:41
the contract for four years, after three years, the team's
41:47
not obligated to extend. You finish out your damn done
41:51
deal. And then you sit down with the
41:53
team and if the team is so scared you're going to go
41:56
elsewhere, then they're going to move forward and they're going
41:59
to try to extend you early. With players, it's different.
42:03
OK, with players it's different, but even then it's somewhat
42:07
different. They're under no obligation to
42:11
extend you. Like I'm sick of hearing this
42:13
term lame duck. I mean, no one is a lame duck
42:17
unless you have maybe an interim coach that got the job that year
42:22
and you have no idea whether the team is going to want to rehire
42:26
at the end of the year. Or if your performance has been
42:29
so bad that you know this is your last year and you know that
42:33
they're probably looking for another coach to replace you,
42:36
you're a lame duck then. Oh, yeah, I know in some cases
42:40
there's a lame duck coach, but if Nick, let's say Diego's
42:44
weren't going to sign Nick Sirianni this year and let him
42:46
play out the final year of his contract, OK, that would in this
42:51
case, it would have shown a complete lack of faith in
42:55
Sirianni despite winning the Super Bowl, and that would have
42:59
been a terrible luck. The man won the Super Bowl.
43:02
He went to two Super Bowls in the last three years and, and
43:06
you're going to let him play out the last year and, and let him
43:10
walk Perhaps if he wants to. That would look terrible, but it
43:15
didn't happen. It was a win, win situation for
43:19
Sirianni and the Eagles. And, and keep this in mind.
43:23
One year ago, a lot of people thought Nick Sirianni might not
43:27
even come back. OK, keep that in mind.
43:30
Kind of like kind of like they're saying Mike Tomlin,
43:33
Jack, like people have been talking about that for like the
43:36
last three seasons and they like to say they haven't had a losing
43:41
season, but you guys are not winning the playoffs either.
43:45
So I don't, I don't know how they like to phrase that to try
43:48
to make themselves feel better or whatever.
43:49
I guess because they break the 500 mark and make it to the wild
43:53
card, they're not losing. That's crazy to me.
43:56
Nobody else what has happened. My common situation, similar to
44:00
Don Shuler, the Miami Shula would have post winning records
44:05
every year, get to the playoffs, Dolphins would get eliminated
44:09
right away and there was a fatigue set in.
44:12
After a while when the team doesn't get to a Super Bowl,
44:16
fatigue start setting in with the fan base.
44:19
And that's what's happening happening with Tomlin.
44:21
Look, the Steelers could go 10 and seven this year and lose in
44:25
the first game of the playoffs and the fan base, that's going
44:29
to be unrest. The same old story that feels
44:33
going on. I'm not optimistic they're going
44:35
to go 10 and seven. I mean, it looks to me like
44:38
Tomlin might have his first losing record in a while.
44:41
They better dress the quarterback situation.
44:44
Mason Rudolph is a little better than people think, but he's not
44:48
the answer moving forward. Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't
44:52
see that. And Stevo has a good point.
44:55
You know, they're getting rid of rude on vote on also rude on
44:57
vote on all these rules about the tush push and all this other
45:02
stuff that they're going to be looking at, of course.
45:03
Oh, that they just ruled the NFL players can compete in the
45:07
Olympics, Jack, That's going to be interesting.
45:12
Yeah, flag football. But I mean, to make their name
45:15
in the Olympics is pretty big, so kudos to them.
45:18
But I had to ask you about that Thomas situation.
45:20
Look, and congratulations to Siriani.
45:23
Fred Warner. Of course, we talked about Brock
45:25
Purdy getting his extension. He's no longer Mr. Irrelevant.
45:28
But how much money you get guaranteed Sonya?
45:30
I think Warana had a three extension at 5:00.
45:33
I could be wrong Werner, but Brock Purdy was guaranteed out
45:40
of his 235,000,000 so he's guaranteed 181 million.
45:46
He's the highest paid quarterback, Yeah, He he.
45:49
He did well for himself. Look, Purdy is the Niner
45:53
franchise quarterback to me. People got down on them last
45:57
year. I think he had enough of a body
45:59
of work to show he's the guy for the Niners moving forward.
46:04
I mean, I don't, I, I'm, I don't subscribe to paying these
46:07
quarterbacks a lot of money who have not produced some type of
46:11
at least a NFC or AFC championship.
46:14
We see how they pay. Trevor Lawrence got a lot of
46:16
coins last year. The details of Purdy.
46:19
I mean, of course Purdy taken the very last in the draft.
46:22
None of that matters now. You know, the last shall be
46:25
first to quote some of my favorite Bible scriptures.
46:28
But he's got a $265 million contract extension.
46:34
It's going to keep him as a 49er through 2030, Jack, like, Oh my
46:40
God, 20-30. I'm sitting up here doing the
46:43
math like wow. Annual average is going to be
46:46
$53 million. He's going to.
46:48
It's going to tie him to Jarrett Golf as the seventh highest paid
46:52
quarterback in NFL by average annual value, $181.00.
46:57
Excuse me, $181,000,000 in guarantees.
47:01
That's the key point, what you're guaranteed, that's the
47:04
important number. But then he got 100 million that
47:08
was fully guaranteed at signing. He's getting 166.5 O 5 million
47:14
in the first three years and is structured to be front loaded,
47:19
meaning that a lot of it's paid upfront.
47:22
Sonia, he deserves it on today's market because keep in mind when
47:28
he was performing for the Niners taking him to a Super Bowl, he
47:31
was making what, like 800,000 a year?
47:34
Less than one year was making like about four something.
47:39
Yeah, he deserves it. He deserves it well.
47:42
Congratulations to him. I mean, it's going to be
47:44
interesting to see what they do if whether or not McCaffrey
47:46
comes back healthy or doesn't come back or does because he's
47:49
been injured. Of course, they don't have
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Brandon Iuke anymore. A lot of big names.
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He's going to have to really show and prove with how they've
47:56
built in the draft and in in the offseason to build.
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Around Super Bowl window, this Super Bowl window, I feel his
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closed, but Devo Samuel's not there anymore.
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I feel it's closed this Super Bowl window.
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But, you know, maybe they'll rebound.
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Maybe they'll show resiliency and get to the playoffs.
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Who knows? I mean, there's still talent on
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the team. Yeah, let's let's switch over.
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We got about 9 minutes left, Jack.
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We kind of got on the NBA and I love it.
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Always a great conversation, Jack and myself.
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Good morning to everyone joining us.
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Thank you so much for sharing, liking and commenting this
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morning. Let's talk to MLB News Power.
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Quickly on MLB News because I rather Sonia, let me call an
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audible on you, OK? You send in the play.
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You know, you're the producer, kind of you.
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You send in the play MLB news. I'm the quarterback.
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You sent that in to me, but I'm order I'm going to do an order
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both of boxing because it's more important.
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Oh. My God.
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I need to talk about it. All right, let's.
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Talk. About today former middle weight
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champion of world Nino Ben Venuti passed away at the age of
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87. And a lot of the fans out there
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who are not really true boxing fans maybe didn't hear with Nino
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Benvenuti. But let me tell you about him.
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He was the world middle weight champion when there was only one
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champion put division. Not like the nonsense you have
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today for champions put division in 1960.
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OK, the 1960 Olympics, Cassius Clay as he was known then later
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to become Muhammad Ali, he won a gold medal in those Olympics.
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The American team won a couple other gold medals, but the boxer
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voted. The outstanding fighter of those
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Olympics in 1960 was Nino Ben Venuti from Rome, Italy.
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Nino Ben Venuti then went on to win the 1st 65 fights of his
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professional career. So when we hear this nonsense
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about Floyd Mayweather record Marciano 49 and Noah record 50
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and no other fighters have exceeded that.
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But then they continued to fight Nate loose Nino Benvenuti.
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He in 1967 took New York by storm.
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He came to Madison Square Garden and he upset Emil Griffith to
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win the middle weight championship of the world.
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And then they had a rematch later that the F Shea Stadium
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and the great Emil Griffith regained the title by a
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decision. And then they had a rubber match
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on moth March 4th, 1968. It opened up the new Madison
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Square Garden. You know what Madison Square
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Garden opened up the the arena now as we know it 1968 they
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wanted to put on the most special event.
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They didn't put on a basketball game or hockey game.
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They had boxing. They had a double header to open
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the Garden. Something special for the first
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night at the new Garden. Joe Frazier for Buster Mathis
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and Nino Ben Venuti in the Co main event for Emil Griffith.
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And Ben Venuti regain the title, beating Griffith on a close
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decision in 1968. And then there'd be some great
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title defenses he have. Notably, he knocked out Luis
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Rodriguez, former welterweight champion who was top middle
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weight contender with one punch. And eventually, like all
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fighters, Ben Vinuti declined and he lost the title to Carlos
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Monzone, got stopped and then in the rematch he couldn't regain
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it with Monzone. But he was a a great, great
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fighter and he was a successful businessman in Italy.
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He did really, really good for himself.
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But The funny thing about the Griffith Ben Vinuti 3 trilogy,
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they were great rivals in the ring.
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And there may have seemed to be a little bit of bitterness, but
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when Ben Venuti's son was born, he made Griffith the godfather
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of his son and and and Griffith was very popular in Italy.
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That was the ironic part about it.
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And Griffith told me Ben Venuti would fly him to Italy and
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they'd sit down with a crowd of people and they'd be watching
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the Ben Vinuti Griffith fights. And this is in Italy.
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And Griffith was saying as many people were cheering for me As
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for him. And I remember Vito Antifermo,
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who who I know very well, a friend of mine who later became
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world middle weight champion himself.
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He was a kid in Italy during the time and he said I had two
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idols, Griffith and Ben Vinuti and Ben Vinuti.
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He was kind of like a matinee idol, good looking guy, Lawn
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had. The only interaction I ever had
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with him was funny. It was up at the Hall of Fame
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weekend in town of Stone in New York.
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I was trying to interview him, you know, and he kept saying
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like acting no speak English, no speak English, no speak English.
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And. Finally, you know, I tried.
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I was persistent, trying to get the interview, Sonia.
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Finally he got annoyed at me and he told me in very clear
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English. He doesn't speak English.
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Don't you understand? I told you I don't speak
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English. Why do you keeping why not
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laughing? He didn't do it in a nasty way.
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He was just busy at that moment. Whatever, he didn't want to talk
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at that moment, which was fine. He wasn't rude to me in any way.
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And then he, and if anything, it had me laughing, you know, when
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he was speaking then. But, and I spoke to him on the
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phone after, in fact on something, I forgot what it was
53:44
about. But he was very friendly in the
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telephone conversation at the later time, at the age 87,
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passed away. I don't know whether boxing had
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any effect later on the years in the ring.
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You know, it tends to catch up to guys with a long career.
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But look, he lived a long, prosperous life, and he made his
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mark, you know, as a Great Hall of Fame champion.
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Yeah, of course, Reverend Italian boxer, 2 weight,
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undisputed champion and Hall of Fame inductee, and he won a gold
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medal at the 19. You don't got to look that up.
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Oh yeah, I know more than that. What's on Wikipedia?
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You know when it comes. To I'm not on Wikipedia, Jack,
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don't. Say that I know more than this
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fucking. That I know what he's going.
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To find online. That is his whole team because.
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I'm anything with me. No, I I know more.
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Than that you are like we are all live and you are literally
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not even letting me speak. Because you're not talking
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Sonia. I got to fill in the pause.
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OK, well I'm going to let you have the rest of the show.
54:47
How about? That no, no, no, I'm just saying
54:51
Keith Kim. Keith Sue Kim for Nina.
54:56
Sonia will come back, she always does.
54:59
Keith Sue Kim handed Ben Bernotti his first defeat, a
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Korean. It was a very debatable decision
55:09
that took place, you know, in that fight.
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That's what happens in fighters careers.
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Things aren't always the way they, like appear on the record.
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But, you know, just a great champion.
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Nino Benvenuti really was. And when he fought a Neil
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Griffith at the Garden, one of the things that that was a
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prelude to what would come later on with other sports.
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They actually started with Ben Venuti, the garden crowd that go
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Nino, Nino, Nino, Nino. And it was just, you know,
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dynamic, electric. He was charismatic, you know, a
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a great champion in the ring, a charismatic 1 outside it.
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The end. Very good, Jack, very good
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presentation of Benvenito. I was just chiming in to say
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that I had heard of him and I was.
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I actually knew that he was one of the greatest.
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I mean, even though I don't know as much as you because you're
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the boxing writer. I was just basically chiming in.
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But Brent, good morning to you. Brent, he says debatable
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question, like the Manny Pacquiao fight in Australia.
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That was ridiculous, The debatable decision.
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I thought Brent, Brent. I thought Pacquiao would not
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fight against Jeff Horn in Australia.
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I thought he deserved the decision.
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I just thought it was the wrong decision.
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I didn't think it was ridiculous.
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I didn't think it was off the charts.
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I thought Pacquiao did deserve it though.
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No don't worry about it guys, after the live I will be choking
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Jack out. OK.
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Anyhoo, poor Mac. I guess I didn't, I did not see
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every episode. Like Jack just freaking diced me
57:03
up on here. Anyway, definitely 87.
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Like you said, you don't. You never know if something
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played a part. I remember my grandmother worked
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at a nursing home. There was a boxer there when I
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was a kid. I don't remember his name, but
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he had some issues from, of course, boxing in a lower
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league, of course. But if all that stuff kind of
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plays into their health. But 87 is is a great age to have
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been alive and to have set so many records and they have so
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many beloved fans. Of course, tributes are pouring
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worldwide because he was so revered.
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Revered, excuse me, in Italy and worldwide.
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So anyway, that will are you going to wrap up with the Juan
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Soto news that you want? To talk about, Yeah, very, very
57:45
quick with Juan Soto. Michael Kay said he heard from
57:50
sources that Juan Soto's not happy with the Mets, that he
57:55
looked as happiest over last weekend when he interacted with
57:59
the Yankees manager Aaron Boone and Aaron Judge.
58:03
And there was family pressure that got him to sign with the
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Mets because they like Steve Cone, the own and his wife And
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the setup the Mets had to soda was kind of 1, was kind of
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pushed into it a little by his family.
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And he just seemed, you know, doesn't seem nearly as happy
58:21
being a Met and nor listen to actions as he was with the
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Yankees. But, you know, it's something
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we'll keep an eye on as we go along.
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And now all the talk Sonia about 1 Soda, maybe not hustling in
58:32
the manager or the Met Collisman, those who wanted to
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talk to him about it. Yep.
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All right, guys. So that was our show for today.
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Thanks everyone for the likes, loves, comments.
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58:46
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