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Ep. 11 | The White Werewolf | Sasquatch & Sourdough Podcast · Sasquatch & Sourdough

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_08: Welcome to Sasquatch and the Stourhood, the podcast where we embark on a journey into the depths of the unknown.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_08: History of life.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_08: Weaving together threads of ancient scripture.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_08: Tell us about the point.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_07: Whether you're a speaker or even the house.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_08: What about the point?
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Your message, your theory, sir?
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_08: Prepared to explore the sacred mysteries of our highly strange world whatever before.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_08: And that is the whole problem with alien.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_04: Hello, everybody.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_04: And you are you, welcome.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_04: So today we keep changing up our studio space because it's impractical to have a studio space in your very active living home.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_04: So today we are remotely recording on location at a fire.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_04: In the backyard.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_04: In the backyard! Because we need fun and we want to tell you some campfire stories.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, why not?
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so just a couple housekeeping things.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_04: Uh thank you so much for joining us on Instagram, YouTube.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_04: Our IG is like popping off.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_04: We have like 350 followers.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's great.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_04: Crazy.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_04: Like you guys are engaging.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_04: It's awesome.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_04: We're hearing so many awesome stories.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_04: Um we really just want to make sure that like you know how to find us.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_04: So Instagram, YouTube, you can email us at saswatch and sourdough at gmail.com.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_04: We really want to start hearing your stories.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_06: We really want to hear your stories.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_06: We want to hear your stories.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_06: Tell us.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_04: We're getting bored.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_04: As much as I love making Robert Smith memes, we're getting bored.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: We want to hear somebody else.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, also, we do we I'll probably, depending upon whenever this drops, um, I will probably make like a big announcement on Instagram, but we are working on a website.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_04: Um and we're really excited about that.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be amazing.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the heart of this project is to just really kind of collect like a historical narrative of what you guys are seeing.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_04: People are seeing crazy stuff and it's affecting people's lives.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I think we really just kind of want to be a little safe space for you to tell your story um and maybe heal.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and having the website is gonna be a really good place for people to go when they have an experience and they want to see that other people have experiences too, and they don't feel so alone, you know, and it's like a place where we can share and you know that you're not alone out there.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_04: And like cross-reference, yeah, like what everyone's seeing.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so that's pretty much all of our housekeeping things.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_04: Intern Rob is keeping the fire nice and warm.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so what we wanted to dive into today, so our last couple episodes have been uh very hairy.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_04: We got into hairy, very hairy.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_04: We got into dog man.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_04: Very hairy and scary.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um the man beast.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: Man beast.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: Manly, beastly, bulging man, hairy man.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_06: No, I'm not going to Christmas.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, not Christmas.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_06: No, we're still in Halloween town.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_06: No, we're still in Falls Hall.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, we are.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_06: I guess we are.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_06: Well, my house is Halloween town.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_06: All of my children pulled out every Halloween decoration that we have and scouted them across my bedroom.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's nice.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_06: So they're like, here mom, we're ready.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_06: Please decorate.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_06: Then you do it.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_06: I'm like, kids, it's what is it, September 20th?
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_06: I think we're a little ahead of schedule.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_04: Uh no, they're it's everywhere.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_04: Like the Halloween decorations.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_04: I think I was just in Essex uh the other day, and they're it's just yards covered in the giant skeletons are I think everyone's favorite.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_06: They're very impractical though.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_06: I almost talked Eric into buying one, and he said absolutely not because there's nowhere to store him.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_06: Good point.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_06: So I said, okay, uh, so for Christmas we dress him up in a Santa costume.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, for the 4th of July.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_06: It's gonna be America, he's gonna be waving a flag.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_04: No, you could dress him up like Abraham Lincoln.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: My favorite.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_06: My favorite man.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_06: Oh him.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_06: He's really tall.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_06: He's super tall.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_06: The giant, what is it, the giant of Illinois?
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, oh man, Abe Lincoln Giant.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_04: Remember the zombie Abe Lincoln's.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_04: I actually read that.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_06: Was it good?
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_06: It was no, it was ridiculous.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_06: But it was fun.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_06: It was fun.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_06: It was ridiculous, but it was fun.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_06: Nice.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_06: Abraham Lincoln versus zombies.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_06: Or something like that.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_06: Zombi or not, I don't know.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_06: Vampire Hunter.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_06: Vampire Hunter, yeah.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_06: I think he also did zombies.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_06: That stuff like took off.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_06: When was that?
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_06: The early 2000s?
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_06: Definitely in the 2000s somewhere.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_04: Somewhere.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but anyway, yeah, so we've been talking about all the man beasts.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_04: And so naturally we went right back into it.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_04: And today I think we want to talk about some werewolves.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um I have a really good reference.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_04: Uh I'll put this in the description.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_04: But it's called Monsters Among Us by Linda S.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_04: Godfrey.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_04: I think we probably I mean, most likely every resource that we get comes from blurry creatures.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_04: Um okay.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_04: Like I just that's all I listen to.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_04: It's your favorite.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_04: It's my fave.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_04: Um but so she also wrote The Real Wolf Man and the American Monsters.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_04: So she kind of has this like great collection of resources in this book.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_06: But you had something local that you wanted to tell us about.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so of course I'm gonna go back to Maryland because that's where I'm from, and I love all the Maryland stories because you don't realize how weird Maryland is.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_06: Maryland's got some weird stuff.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_06: So last last week we were talking about the duo.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_06: And a lot of times when you look up werewolf sightings in Maryland, it always goes back to the duo.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_06: So if anybody remembers from our last episode, the duo is a man wolf dog kind of beast, which also ties into um, I don't know.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_06: I guess it's I guess it's dog man.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_06: It wouldn't exactly be goat man, but I could see where like people could get them mixed up.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_06: Any whatever it is, if there's a man running around Maryland that looks like a beast.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_06: Some kind of beast.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_06: So in Pokemon State Forest, which is down around the eastern shore around Ocean City, Maryland, there's this huge forest there.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_06: Um it's filled with spirits and strange sightings.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_06: There's tales of the old tree, the hanging hole, and there's also a ghostly werewolf creature.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_06: He roams on moonlit nights and makes packs with the devil.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_06: Oh.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_06: So these are all the like little lore.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_06: All the lore, all the little snippets about that guy.
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  SPEAKER_06: But um, but perhaps the spookiest story surrounds the old Nazarene church, where now all that remains of the parish is an abandoned cemetery.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_06: Oh wow.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_06: So the story goes that after the original church was closed and boarded up, a large Bible was left on the pulpit.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_06: Every time someone tried to steal it, and many tried, they didn't get very far.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_06: For even if they managed to lift the heavy Bible and start towards the door, the Bible got heavier and heavier and heavier until the thief dropped it on the floor and ran.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_06: That's crazy.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_06: It's one of my favorite stories from Pokemon's Day Forest.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_06: It's really cool.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_06: There's so many cool little stories like that.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_06: Like I could go in for days.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_06: But um, if you're interested in the sure.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_06: And Pokemok, so it's um so it's a river, the Pokemok River.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_06: They actually call it the Black River because the water is like filled with these like minerals or tannins or something from the soil that makes it pitch black.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_07: Oh my god.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_06: So there's a lot of stories about drownings in the Pokemok River, where um once the person goes under the water, you can't see them.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_06: Like you know how like when you go underwater, you can kind of see, and things like slowly disappear to a point, and then you can't see it anymore.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_06: But in this Pokemon River, it's so black that if you happen to go under, you're instantly gone.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_06: Like you can't see the person that went under.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_04: That's gotta be, I mean, really creepy.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_04: I just think about now it's probably obviously different like swimming in a river versus like any sort of ocean or anything.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_04: But like if you got on like what if you got under and you couldn't get up?
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_04: Well, that's the thing.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_06: Once you go under these black waters, you can't decipher which way is up and which way is down and which way is left and right.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_06: So good luck if you happen to go under, because you become disoriented and you don't know which way to swim to come back to the surface.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_03: So you know what that reminds me of?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: What?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: Do you remember Creep Show?
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: The border.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: The bottom thing on the rat.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_06: That's one of my favorite stories.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_06: That's my favorite.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_06: I actually tell that story around the campfire when I take all my kids, trick um, not trick-or-treating, um, camping.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_06: So I t I like to tell spooky stories when we go camping and scare all of the young children.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_06: And um lovely.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_06: That's one of my favorite stories to tell is the thing in the water, and it's well, the I think the actual story is called The Raft.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_06: It's the raft.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_06: But it's a blob, and it like eats people.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_04: Guys, if you don't oh no, because you if I don't know, did you?
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_04: Did you grow up in the 90s?
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_04: We have no idea who our audience is.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_04: But we grew up in the 90s, and that I mean, why were not number one?
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_04: Why were you allowed to watch Creep Show?
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's terrifying.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_04: It's literally the crypt keeper coming to tell the children's stories.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_04: But the raft, again, this ties into like every thread that we've kind of pulled here.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_04: They were somewhere where they weren't supposed to be.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_04: Where they weren't supposed to be, you weren't supposed to swim out to that raft.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_06: Anyway, sorry.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_06: That's okay.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_06: So the monster, um, there's this really cute thing in um in Pokemok State Forest.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_06: It's called geocaching, and it's they do this all over the place.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_06: But in Pokemok, it's called it's a kayak-only cache, and it's the 12th cache on the Monster Mash Trail, which is scattered all along the Pokemok River.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_06: It begins in Snow Hill, Maryland, and it's compiled of various monsters from movies and real monsters.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_06: That's so cute.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_06: So local legend dictates that the Pokemon forest, um, which the river runs through, is extremely haunted.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_06: We know all that.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_06: And each one of these watertight caches is named after a different um monster in the region.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_06: So it goes on to say that the 12th cache on this trail is the white werewolf of Worcester County.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_06: Oh wow.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_06: It's purportedly a werewolf spirit that haunts um an unidentified church in the Pokemon chorus.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_06: This is what I think is the old Nazarene church.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_06: Remember, I said that, and then there's like still like a cemetery attached to it.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_06: And um, there isn't much else that's really known about this werewolf rumor, other than people have spotted it all around the area.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_06: And um, it's basically just like tales like told through family history.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_06: Like grandma's sitting around telling the kids, like, don't go out there, the white werewolf's gonna get you.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_06: And that somebody saw it in the family.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, exactly.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_06: But um, so the definition of a werewolf obviously is a human that sh can shape shift into a wolf or wolf-like wolf-like creature.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_06: Which is the same thing as like the goat man, the dogman, the Weo.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_06: Like it all kind of connects to each other.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_04: This account comes from Monsters Among Us by Linda Godfrey, and it's called The Brunswick Wolf Shadow.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and so she kind of just like took a whole bunch of accounts and put them in this really awesome book that's just it's chock full of like witness statements, facts, all kinds of stuff.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so this goes on to say Pam and Molly aren't the only ones to have seen what look like giant deep shadows that appear two-dimensional rather than fully realized.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_04: Also, like an animated cutout of a creature.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_04: Sounds absolutely terrifying.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_06: That sounds like a multi-dimensional beast.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_06: Like something that you're seeing through a veil.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_06: That's not exactly in this corporal like plane.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so it's almost like a I kind of like in my mind it goes to like almost like a like one of those like trick mirrors.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_04: Like if it were standing behind you, it's creepy.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_04: So one such encounter took place in summer 1969 in Brunswick, Ohio.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_04: Ohio.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_04: Surprise, when two brothers aged five and eight, their three sisters, then um a nine-year-old and a pair of 11-year-old twins, and their grandmother found terror in their backyard.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_04: Their relative Julie wrote me in October, so this is coming again from um Monsters Among Us, uh, in 2012, and said the entire family group saw what one aunt described as a wolf shadow walking out of the garden.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's creepy.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_04: The story goes they saw it walking, only it was two-dimensional.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_04: It looked like a black cardboard cutout that moved, but they could make out distinct features like a snout, pointy ears, bushy fur, and what my aunt, this is quoting, says stuck out the most a thick arched neck similar to that of a horse.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, that's different.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_04: She said it turned to look at them, and when it did, it looked like what a piece of cardboard would look like thin.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_04: Ew.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_04: What does that remind me of?
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_04: Two-dimensional?
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so it's like flat.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_04: When it finished turning, it looked flat again, except they could tell it was facing them.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my gosh.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_04: Um, they couldn't see eyes or a snout, but the ears were clearly seen and they knew it was watching them.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_04: They all started screaming, and our grandma came out to see what was going on.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_04: She went back and got a broom.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_04: Grandma had a broom and started after it with the kids running after her.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_04: That's amazing.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_04: Don't mess with grandma and her broom.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_04: She's got a broom.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_04: My aunt said it um it then came out of the cornfield and ran towards the woods.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_04: She says it looks like a piece of paper running.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_04: Who?
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_04: It ran with a sort of a hop on the balls of its feet, not like a human would run.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_04: It had legs similar to a dog.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_04: Canines, of course, do run on their toe pads.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_04: It turned back once uh with the same two-dimensional paper effect.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Julie, who heard the story secondhand from her aunt and stepfather, added that they estimated it had to have been seven feet tall based on the height above the corn plant.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_06: I think there's many more portals than we realize all over our country.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_04: I agree.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, she has portals in there too.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_04: It's a fascinating book.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_04: Like, definitely go buy it.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_04: Which one?
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_04: What is it called again?
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_04: So Monsters Among Us by Linda S.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_04: Godfrey.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_04: Godfrey.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_04: You can get it on Amazon.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_06: It's like to be read list.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_04: To uh it's very real uh well researched.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, good.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_06: I have another story if you're ready.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_06: Yep.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_06: This one comes from Frederick County again in Maryland.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_06: Frederick! Frederick County! It's crazy.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_06: So this goes back to the Duo that we were talking about, dog man, wolf man, whatever you want to call him.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_06: But it's from a news article called Mysterious Duo on Loose in County.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_06: And then there's a subhead that says don't mess with it in quotation.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_07: Ooh.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_06: Do you have a date?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_06: I don't have a date.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_06: I think it's I'm sorry.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_06: November 1965.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_06: Ah.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_06: November 1965 from a newspaper.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so it says a man named John Becker reported fending off a six-foot-tall, black-haired creature with a bushy tail in his backyard on Fern Rock Road.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_06: The paper reported this call to the state police who investigated the claim.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_06: Sergeant Clyde B.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_06: Tucker of the local state police said, as far as he knows, there's no such thing as Dwayo.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_06: There's no place in Frederick County known as Fern Rock Road.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_06: What?
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_06: And no one by the name of John Beck can be found, or Becker can be found, according to an article in the news.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_06: Even though it was the case, hunters reported a number of Dwayo sightings after the original report.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_06: So this guy, John Becker, everybody's wondering if he made the thing up.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_06: You know, we talked about Snally Gaster and how it was like report purportedly um made up just for like news headlines or whatever.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yep.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_06: But unlike the Snallygaster of years past, the witnesses who spoke about the Dwayo were unnamed in news articles.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_06: So they weren't like looking for fame or fortune.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_06: They were coming forward and going to the news articles and they were telling reports of this thing that had been in their yard.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_06: There was one where dogs started chasing.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_06: It says my dog started chasing something, and I saw it was black, but I didn't think too much about it.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_06: Believing it was a dog or maybe a bear claimed an unidentif unidentified hunter in an article in the news.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_06: However, after reading the newspaper article, I'm not too sure it wasn't a duo.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my gosh.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_06: It trotted like a horse.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know what it was, but I'm going to look for it for weeks.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_04: So that's interesting because it seems like that, like it it's part of their culture there.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_04: They're like trying to get creepy crystals.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_04: All these creepy cryptids.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like in Frederick, you're just like, oh yeah, it was probably just a duo.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_06: So this is really funny too.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_06: So right after that, in December of 65, the Frederick Community College organized a duo hunt.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_06: What?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_06: But it fizzled out when not a lot of folks showed up.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_06: Oh.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_06: However, a news article stated that someone saw a pickup truck full of boys, some with helmets and waving machetes on West 7th Street.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_04: That's amazing.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, here's another one.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_06: A Burkittsville resident.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_06: Oh Burketttsville.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's uh Blair Witch territory.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_06: Had an interesting theory as to the creature's origins related to the Snallygaster, another Frederick County creature that supposedly laid eggs that hatch every 20 years.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_06: The eggs should be hatching just about now, said the unnamed man in the news article.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_06: And the Dwayo could actually be a Snallygaster.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_06: This is just this is just goofy stuff.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's just funny.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_06: It's just funny and goofy.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my gosh.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_06: I just think it's so funny because then there's this other woman whose child had heard so many news reports about the Dwayo and the Snally Gaster that she developed a nervous um like disposition where she couldn't go outside at night, she couldn't sleep at night, she thought the dewayo was like in her bedroom window and the snally gaster was under her bed.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_06: And the mom got really irritated and like went on the news and was like, everybody needs to stop telling these stories because my kids can't sleep at night because they think there's monsters coming out of the woods to get them.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_06: I think we we heard that story about the dog man.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_06: The dog man that Rock State Park and he was traumatized.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_04: The children are terrified.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_04: So it's kind of well, and I think Frederick is just making stuff up at this point.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_06: I think it's just funny because it turns into like one of those like horde mentalities with the boys and the helmets and the machetes.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_06: It's like now we're hunting Frankenstein's monster.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_06: You know?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_06: We need a good mob.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_04: The local mob.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_04: Call me when you need a gypsy curse because I'm Hungarian.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_06: But obviously, people were seeing some kind of bipedal creature.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_06: But it I guess it gets out of hand.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_06: It reaches a fever pe a fever pitch.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_06: And now everyone has a story.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_04: Or they're just kind of, yeah.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_06: So you kind of have to look at it with a skeptical eye.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_04: It's also hard when you have things recorded and then you're kind of retelling it.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_04: I I think it's best when you can actually hear the people.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, definitely.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_04: You know, like telling it in their own voice.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_04: Definitely.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_04: Um that's always really, really cool.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_04: But this, so this is back um again from Monsters Among Us, and this is a the encounter.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_04: So she it's really so well reported.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_04: She has it kind of mapped out to like the case summary.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_04: Um Uh the reported creature, location, date, conditions, etc.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_04: This is like kind of exactly how we are sort of laying out the website, like when you are able to like go on there and put in your own story.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: So this is the Pennsylvania glow stick dog man.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_04: Whoa.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_04: How 90s of you?
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_04: Glow sticks.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so apparently the reported creature is a large glowing wolf-like creature.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_04: And this was reported uh Mountainside Highway in northern Pennsylvania 1994.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: Uh the condition, so it says nighttime light provided by vehicle headlights and the creature itself.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, associated phenomenon, blue moving light, unknown whether light at first seen was emitted from the creature or something else.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and so apparently it was extremely large creature, ran easily on hind legs, emitted a bluish colored glow from entire body.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_04: Uh the witnesses were Mike and uh Mrs.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_04: Moran, uh, first name held by request, husband and wife.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_04: And then the environmental factors were uh mountainous area with great access to uninhabited wooded areas, located probably only 60 to 100 miles directly north of this is Harrisburg.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_04: 2015 report of an upright wolfman, moon and solar flare phases unknown.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, so she like even gets into that.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's really cool.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so he said, let me go back to his actual account.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_04: Um, let me see here.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_04: I looked up into the trees because I saw a light that appeared to be coming down the hill fast toward the road in a kind of bobbing motion.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_04: I thought maybe it was someone on a four-wheeler, but that didn't seem right since it looked like a dangerous time and place to be on one.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_04: I was worried about possibly crashing into the thing, and I couldn't imagine what it could be.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_04: My guess, my best guess was an ATV.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, that kind of I can see that.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I remember wondering if the locals were out having a torchlight procession in the forest.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_04: Some way uh that he was moving in the trees brought that to mind.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, so it was probably like moving back and forth.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, I was giving the light a lot of attention while keeping an eye on the road.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_04: Uh he also, so Moran also worried due to the structure of the highway and that uh particular point, I looked, it looked as if the road had been cut into the hill because there was a six to eight foot vertical face running along the side of the road.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_04: Ew.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_04: Like a little cliff.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_04: I recall thinking that if the light was an ATV, it came down to the road, um, and it came down to the road, it would have I would have a real problem.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um when the light actually did begin to come down the hill toward the road, I got excited because I was about to see what the heck it was.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_04: But I was also worried about possibly seeing an ATV crash.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_04: So he's thinking they're like crashing into each other.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so the light reached the road about 25 yards or so in front of my car.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_06: More dogs are barking.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_06: It's the night for the dogs.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_06: The night for the beasts.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_06: The beast.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_04: The beast of Baltimore.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I couldn't believe this thing had just come down the hill out of the trees, right in front of my face.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, the thing kept going across the road as I drove toward it.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_04: Well, it wasn't a four-wheeler, it was a powerfully built K9 being running on two legs, about seven or eight feet tall.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_04: That's a common thread.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_04: About um about 300 pounds that appeared to have had a load to it.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_04: Holy moly.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_04: Its color was a bluish-whitish light gray.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_04: Um, that was like the white werewolf to talk about.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_04: This is crazy.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_04: Why is this going?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_04: This is in Harrisburg.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_04: 1994.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_04: I couldn't tell if it had fur, but if it did, it would have been short and all the same length.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_04: I don't recall a mane or a tail.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_04: It gave the impression of being male, but there was no overt clues.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_04: The creature bounded across the road in only three steps, said Moran, and continued on its way on the other side of the highway, disappearing into the forest of the sides down of the sides downward slope.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_04: That's wild.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_04: That was wild.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, guys, definitely go buy this book because it's filled with stories like that.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_06: It's filled with great stories.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_06: What a great encounter.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_06: And like, you have to do a lot of research to compile all of those great stories.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_06: Because even just the little bit of research I did to try to find werewolf sightings in Maryland, like I didn't really come up with much.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_06: You know?
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_06: Like I found awayo sightings and dogman sightings and goat man sightings.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_06: There's really nothing on werewolves.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_06: But again, I really think that it is just people not not being able to identify.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_06: And they could almost kind of be one in a one in the same almost.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, the my favorite one though was that 2D flat creature that you were.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_06: That was that was the creepiest one.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_06: That's the creepiest one I've ever heard.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, that's a good one.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_04: I don't want to be skeptical.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_04: I want to believe everyone's story, but part of me is like I always have a skeptical eye.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_04: Did pop-pop like have a corn?
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, was pop-up running around the corner like in the cornfield.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_04: That's funny.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_04: Pop pop's chasing it.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_04: And grandma had her broom.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, that's the best.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_04: Here comes grandma with a broom.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody look out.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_04: Gonna get you.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna get you.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_04: All right, yeah.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_04: So that was actually we were trying to do more broad, but we ended up having some really good werewolf accounts.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_06: I think just the the funny thing about the Frederick County incidents was that so many people were reported things that the State Police Department got just kind of furious.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_06: And like overwhelmed.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_06: They were like, this is ridiculous.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_06: What are you people doing?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_06: What is wrong with this mom mentality?
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because it gets in your mind, and then you're like, I see the dogman everywhere.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_04: Everywhere.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_06: Everywhere.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_06: So they thought it was Irish wolfhounds?
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_06: No, they thought it was dogman or Dwayo, but it was actually a man that lived in the area that bred Irish wolfhounds.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_06: Amazing.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_06: That is like half of the sightings that were reported were actually Irish wolfhounds.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_04: Can you imagine?
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_04: All right, if you if you're like dad or you or state trooper, like I need to know what is going on in Frederick.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_04: Are you what's happening?
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_05: Are you guys like drinking the Kool-Aid?
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_05: Can we hear some stories from Frederick County people?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_05: What is going on up there?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_05: It's wild up there.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_05: Calm down.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_05: It's wild.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's wild and werewolf in London.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_04: Woolly.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_04: Wild and woolly.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_04: Wild and woolly.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_04: No, that's back to Christmas.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_04: Stop it.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_04: How is it?
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_04: Screwed.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, that's just one long script.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I think that's yeah.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_04: I think that was a good little fireside chat.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I hope this turns out.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_04: It would be fantastic.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_04: We're still working on our audio.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_04: We're getting it together.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but yeah.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_04: It's a little different.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_04: It's different, but hopefully it turns out.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we'll see.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_06: I may be moving around a lot.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't know.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_04: We'll see.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_04: Whatever, we'll just redo it.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_04: Um, we've got some guests lined up.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_04: We're really excited about that.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um, we really want to hear your stories.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_04: Look out for the website launch.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_04: That's gonna be awesome.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_04: I'll put all that stuff on Instagram.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, just keep commenting and getting in touch with us and making friends with us.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: And hopefully you can come on and share your story.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_04: Tell your stories, tell your stories.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_04: So, yeah, until next time.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_04: Bye! Bye.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: You have been listening to Sasquatch and Sourdough.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Christina, and thank you so much for tuning in.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: Sasquatch and Sourdough is so much more than just a podcast.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: We're a community of kindred spirits, united by our curiosity and fascination with the extraordinary.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: And we want to bring you into the conversation.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: So whether you've had a brush with the unexplainable, seen something that you can't quite wrap your head around, this is your space.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: We invite you to join us as we break bread and break down the barriers between the known and the unknown.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: If you want to share your story, you can email us at saswatch and sourdough at gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: Until next time, remember, the truth is out there.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: God is with you, and everyone always ends up in the kitchen.