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Would You Rather.. Magic Edition #217 · The Magic Guys

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They're guys they do magic they are the magic guys,
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well tip top tap to the morning to you my friends i'm josh norbedo and to my
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left i've got nick k that's right friends i'm nick k and i used to play in a band.
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Whoops i said your name by accident i got a little too
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ahead of myself but this is the magic guys podcast
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episode 217 where we
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as professional magicians talk about our lives the
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gig life the shenanigans that go with it interview cool
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guests and we chat live with our
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fellow listeners on youtube because we you
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know nick we have just as many listeners if not maybe more now in audio land
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as we do watching on youtube so it's kind of funny we have like a demographic
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we we rock with and we chat live who are basically part of the show then we
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have the people that watch it afterwards and then there are some people that
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don't even know that we're bald,
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so it's quite a funny listenership that
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we have collected i wonder i wonder what people
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think we actually look like you know what i mean like if
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you didn't know what we looked like what would josh nabito
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i think you look exactly what you sound
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like personally but if
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someone were to be like i've never seen nick k
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and i don't know what he looks like and tell you what if you are one of those
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listeners who has heard our voices and does not know what we look like maybe
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other than the actual you know the the the logo that we have where we've been
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turned into cartoons send us a speak pipe and let us know what you think we
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actually look like that'd be really funny you.
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Because that's happened to me so many times where before people were doing video
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podcasts, I would listen to podcasts and just imagine what those people looked like.
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And then most of the time, it's always underwhelming when you do,
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like, it never seems to match their voice when I would see people.
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And I wonder if, yeah, if that exists to someone else. So that's pretty cool.
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100%, yeah. And of course, you know, the guys who are here in the chat,
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great to see you. Let's give you guys a quick shout out.
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We have Thomas Conger, Tim Askin, Scotty Link, Scotty P.
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And we have Jesse Chapman. Thanks for coming in. And of course,
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our good friend, Alex Lamb. How are you, handsome friend?
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Oh, yeah. Like we said, guys, we do love it when you send in some speak pipes.
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And we actually got one this morning that's kind of a heavy one.
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We were debating whether or not
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we share it in the spirit of today because today is going to be a fun one.
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But I said that in the spirit of what Magic Guys is, is that we are there as
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a community and we are there for each other. So I said, let's line it up.
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Let's see what the community has to say about this big pipe.
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It's a heavy one. So open your ears and open your hearts to what needs to be said. Go for it, Josh.
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Hey y'all, hope you're doing well. So I am currently on my way to a gig and
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yesterday I found out that my father passed away from cancer and I thought I
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would be okay to go do this gig and as I am driving there,
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I am having a more difficult time than I had imagined.
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And you know obviously this episode would
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come out after today but you know i'm just curious
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if anybody ever you know unfortunately finds
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themselves in a similar situation if you have any
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words of advice or words of encouragement or anything
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of the sorts yeah cheers so that
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was from our friend seth i think seth's in the chat if i've
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got the right seth i hope you're doing well my friend and we're going
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to send you a speak pipe back to you as well off air but
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first and foremost we hope you're doing well my friend
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and thank you for being vulnerable and sending it in because
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it is something that uh entertainers go
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through which is not that specific situation but like you know having shitty
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things in our lives happen but we still have to light up the room and entertain
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an audience it's a weird by play so nick first what's it's it's unfortunate that
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Doug is in here today because he has probably experienced more of that just
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having lived a longer life.
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He might have had more perspective. But, yeah, we'll start with you, Nick.
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Yeah, yeah. But before I say anything, again, condolences, buddy.
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I mean, as well as everyone in the chat, the chat is lighting up,
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sending their love to you, buddy. And our hearts go out to you.
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And I'm terribly sorry for your loss. And, you know, as we said,
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Doug has been in the game a lot longer than ourselves because he's,
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you know, 6,000 years old.
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And we suspect he might be Santa Claus. but for
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myself who's been in the game for currently 17 going on
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18 years i have experienced things of
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this nature okay and it is is it is
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an experience let's just acknowledge that good or bad it is an experience i
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will i'm gonna i'm gonna tear off the band-aid and just share a very very personal
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experience of mine i was booked to do a show after a serious breakup with my fiance say.
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Okay. Not my girlfriend, not my, I bet like fiance.
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We were to get married. This was a long time ago now because she was ill and
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like your father kind of on her way out.
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And she didn't want me to stick around for it and was like, I'm leaving you
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now. I'm going to run away and die effectively. Okay.
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I've never told anyone this story, but I think in the spirit of what's going
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on, I'm going to bear my soul because you need to hear this.
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That morning I woke up and I didn't want to exist. I didn't want to get up and
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I didn't want to do anything. Okay.
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But I had a show that day and I mustered the strength to do it.
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I did the show and not only did I did the show, I crushed it.
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And what I took away from it is a couple of things that I want to share with you.
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The first thing is that like, regardless of whether or not you're at your highest
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or your lowest, it's the type of thing that when you approach an audience that
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you have a job and your job is to make them happy and to make others smile.
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It's a very selfless act, I think is the right word I'm looking for,
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where you put your own ambitions aside and your own feelings because you're there to give.
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It is a gift and you give and you give. So if you went forward with it and you
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did do the gig, power to you, buddy, like that is exactly what it's about.
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And it is a challenge, okay?
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And it's not supposed to be easy, but if you get through it, power to you, okay?
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Second thing I'll make mention to synopsisize that is do not bleed on anyone who didn't cut you.
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You could be having a bad day, but it's not your right to take your day out
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on anyone because you've had a bad day.
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That's not only while you're performing, that's just in life, okay?
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You can't go and kick in the teeth of someone who's ruined your coffee order,
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for example, you know, nor can you get to a gig and be like,
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stop heckling me, you prick, my dad just died.
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Like, that's not really something you can do. Like you grace the stage.
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You don't even tell people that your life sucks or that you're struggling in that moment.
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You get up and you do your job and then you go and you deal with that later.
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And again, it's not an easy thing to do, but it is something you do.
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And I'll finish what I have to say by saying that after that set,
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right, that I had done, this was very early in my career.
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I went there, I did my set and I crushed it. And then I was offered...
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I was offered my first Melbourne Magic Festival show from that.
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They said, this was amazing. Will you come and please do a show?
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We're going to give you a discount on five nights to do a whole week of shows.
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We think you're brilliant.
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What I took away from it was that even at my lowest, even at my all-time low,
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I was still brilliant and I was still able to make others smile.
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It was through that that I learned what my personal purpose was and what the
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the purpose of being a magician was.
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And it's also a good way to keep marching forward, you know,
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and having that strength, that personal strength, and also doing it in honor
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of the person you might've lost or whatever's going through your life.
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It's all character building in the end. Okay.
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I've also had to do this when my grandmother passed away, who was my like best
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friend in the whole world.
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You know what I mean? And like, you can, I was never going to be prepared for
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when that, when she was going to leave the earth and she didn't leave in a bad
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way. She just literally fell asleep.
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Didn't wake up again. No one was expecting it. You know what I mean?
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But it happens and you keep it together until you can have an opportunity to lose it.
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And I hope that's a good enough advice for what you're taking away.
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But like you got through it, it's character building.
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No one can tell you how to mourn. It's okay to hold it in for a moment to get
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through a situation and then mourn when you have the moment.
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It's not as if people might say, you can't be doing that. You need to this. It's like, no, no, no.
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You don't know how I mourn. I will mourn how I need to mourn.
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So I think those are enough sort of dot points that I have to say,
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but again, sorry for your loss and power to you for getting through it as well.
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And that's our episode. We've been the magic guys. Make sure you check out our website, buy our merch.
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Yeah, that's right. Yeah, buy your merch. Yeah, Nick said it well.
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I don't, like, I won't sit here and pretend like that I have a similar story to compare it to.
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I just know that that's, no one knows what you're going through except you.
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I mean, looking at our comments here, Seth gave us an update.
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He's live in the chat, which all of you should be. He said, the magic,
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it's a huge testament to the power of magic because I was able to put everything
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aside for 45 minutes and be fully present.
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Kids and parents enjoyed the show.
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And that particular comment, yeah, that's amazing. Do we have some applause?
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You should applaud that. Matt, you're so proud of you, brother.
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Yeah, like that's that feeling, like being able to table your feelings and make
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everyone enjoy a show, like Nick said, be giving.
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The only thing I can liken this to and
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it's completely separate to what Seth has
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gone through but a lot of listeners who've been
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listening for a while know that I live with Crohn's disease which
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doesn't affect me day to day now because it is controlled
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with medication so every month I get like an infusion and
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anyone else with going through this kind of thing reach out if
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you're ever like struggling or don't know what to do because as a performer like it's
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it can when it's affecting you dramatically affects
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your energy levels and when it
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was first flaring up and not controlled and
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I didn't know what was going on it was sort of around the
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time that I was doing Australia's Got Talent actually but that
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first corporate December season where you're doing like multiple gigs every
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single day and I was like losing weight and didn't know what was going on and
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I had zero energy and when I mean zero I mean if I sit down on a couch too long
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like I'm I'm out. I'm asleep.
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So there was like a day where I had to do four gigs and I was just like.
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For some reason, the moment I start doing the gig, I could table aside all of
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that shit and no energy and still give everyone a great time.
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And I felt great and I had all this energy.
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And then for some reason, magic would like allow that to, it almost like pauses
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what's going on in your life and lets you do this thing that you love and this
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art and perform for everyone.
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And then I would get in my car and just be like, oh my God, I'm like,
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I can't do anything else.
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And then I would have a Red Bull, I'd sit in my car, I'd be like,
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I don't know where this energy is going to pull from but let's see what happens
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and I get out and then all of a sudden it would be a great time and I do the
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gig and everything like that and I'd worry about my life afterwards so yeah
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magic like so don't let what you're going through necessarily.
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Stop you from going out to perform is what I would say but
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also don't feel like you can 100% tell
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a client like hey something's come up and I won't be able to
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do your event and then you just find someone else to get it be in their place
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and stuff never feel like you have to commit to
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that still the do the thing because you think you'll never
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get another gig again if people know you've canceled on one don't let that be
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a thing but yeah if you it will be a positive outcome is i guess what we're
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saying and yeah let's all uh share some love to seth and look thanks for uh
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thanks for sharing man really appreciate it absolutely man we are here for you
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we are here for you all again.
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So if you, again, you know, you guys are always welcome to send in your speak
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pipes with any questions. We love getting those.
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We try to address them as quickly as we can to make sure we can help you guys
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in any way, getting you through whatever situation you're going through in this life or in the magic one.
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Yeah. I like Tim's just put a comment, sharing some, some, uh, some fun on this.
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I see a new podcast for you guys, the magic guys support group, man.
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If there was a support group for magicians, there is
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one actually it's called magicians only on facebook it's a
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bunch of whinging performers that all wants you
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know to be told that they're doing something good
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but anyway i digress we have
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an episode today called would you rather and we thought we'd
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put each other in funny situations where both outcomes are
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bad but you have to pick one and we're
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going to go back to back nick's going to start with the first one
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and we're going to just see yeah what would we choose we want
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to see in the chat what you would choose as well let's have
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some fun okay question
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number one would you rather flash your
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double lift in the first five seconds of every single gig you do for the rest
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of your life or have a kind of tick where you accidentally say ta-da after every
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trick so you're doing a multi let's say that you're doing,
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like like an ambitious card routine which is like seven phases and you're like
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oh and i go this i snap my fingers and it comes to the top ta-da and then you
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just keep every single phase.
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Holy crap or okay so i need to just ask the double lift exposing it's only happening
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for the first phase at a gig or just what just for the first five seconds of that gig,
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just the gig or every set you're doing just just
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the gig roving oh okay so only one person sees you do something terrible well
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depends what if you get on stage and you've got to execute a double lift and
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you've got you know you get on you know stray's got talent or something and
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you've got millions of people watching you you've got to execute one double lift and it's like ah.
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Look, there's some caveats to that because exposing videos do great views online.
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So that video will actually do well.
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But then, yeah, you are having to always know that your art form is going to look.
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Yeah. Look, why am I messing around? I'm going to take the ta-da because I'm
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hoping people will find it endearing and the magic is still going to be great
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because you're not exposing anything.
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Yeah and in the chat people are saying scott's saying oh my god that's a nightmare,
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tim's saying i'll take the ta-da gutbuster mike saying i'll take the ta-da jesse
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champlin saying wait aren't we meant to say ta-da anyway,
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alex is saying to that yeah i think it's gonna be ta-da because
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oh my god that's that's so crazy i i i'm gonna push back fellas i will i would
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take a flash because i would rather i would rather structure every single trick
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I do and never use a double lift for the rest of my life than have to do that after every trick.
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But what if it means you can do whatever slights you want and they'll always be perfect?
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You can do the crazy, you can do Blaise Sierra level stuff, perfection,
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but you will say ta-da after every revelation. Then what?
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Would you take that? I could have Blaise Sierra skill set in exchange for having
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a Tourette style tick in which I say ta-da.
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You can take a shuffle deck and in one spread, it's a new deck order.
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But you say ta-da every time that happens.
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Damn it. You're taking that, right? That's a good deal. I would take that. That's a very good deal.
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Yeah, I think I would take that. That's what I'm talking about. You're our wins.
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All right, number two. This is for you, Nick, in the chat.
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Would you rather perform a kid's party with only mentalism or do your stage
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dove act at a vegan wedding. Jeez.
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So this is a one-off scenario.
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So there's a gig. You've got to do a gig today. Are you doing a mentalism kids
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party or are you doing a dove act at a vegan wedding?
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Oh, man. I...
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Okay that's a good one that's a good one i'm thinking okay i'm
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thinking that a mentalist show for kids could be pretty fun um like okay but
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hear me out you know what's gonna happen nick what let's let's pretend we're
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doing a mentalist show right now you're the mentalist and you're asking me to
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like name a number or something like that and i'm a kid okay,
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All right. Hello, child. Focus.
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I know ADHD is a thing. Hi, Nick. Hey.
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Hi. What's that in your pocket? It's a gun. Behave yourself.
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Yeah, my dad's got one of those.
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Name your favorite Pokemon. Banana!
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Oh, that's a good Pokemon. Okay. Underneath these four buckets is one Pokemon.
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Wait, I got some Peter Tartus in my pocket. One sec.
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There better be enough for everyone Okay, underneath this bucket Is your favorite
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Pokemon My mom hangs out with my uncle a lot I hang out with your mom too She's
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great So underneath these four buckets,
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One, two, three, and four Choose one,
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Wait, can I only have one of them? You can have as many as you like.
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Okay, I'll take these two.
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Great. All right, and then why don't you take one more? Oh, what's this flap in here do?
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Beep! Ah! There's a spike in there!
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Fuck it, I'm doing the dumb act.
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I reckon man i think it could be fun to do a kid's show where it's like you
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ask them questions and you have two options like you know i think it could be
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fun like i think it would work you know,
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yeah yeah but it's like you got to choose the right one otherwise
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i'm gonna i'm gonna like you don't
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get your dog back or something like that you know what i mean or you get
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a puppy at the end of it like it could be all
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right kid now i'm all the way over here but point to
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where you felt i touched you and nick's
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about to spit up his coffee yeah and also
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alex alex lamb just commented saying congrats gentlemen
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you've just encapsulated what it's like to be a teacher because
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he's our teacher magician advocate here but he's still picking the kids show
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i don't do kids shows either but i would probably choose that over having to
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upset a bunch of think the reason being is this right like a kid's party is
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a kid's party and they are important but,
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how many kid how many parties you're going to have in your life a hundred if
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you live to a hundred maybe even more right but a wedding how many of those
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you're going to have in your lifetime,
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you know how many do you want to have like some people don't even want to have
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one and i think that if you was to upset someone on their wedding day i would
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find that harder to live with personally So I'm going to go a kid's show because
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I think that I could make that rock.
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So I'm going to settle on kids show. What is your choice? I think the wrath
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of the kids is going to be worse than the wrath of angry wedding people.
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Because the kids are going to grow up and they'll be around longer. I don't know.
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They're not writing Google reviews. Kids aren't writing Google reviews. Who cares?
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Yeah, that's true. Look, I'm not doing kids shows anyway, but I am doing wedding gigs.
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So I would like to continue doing wedding gigs. I probably don't care if I fluff up one kids show,
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but still, like, that's going to be brutal no props
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mentalism show or some props whatever your
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charisma will get you through it it's not a good choice but um
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yeah it's just all not good i mean at
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least a dove act is quick like it's five minutes yeah well
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i'm just gonna i'm just gonna say dove act okay i'm
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just gonna i'll just go with that and and we'll
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move on all right well gut buster says kids act tim
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masculine says the kids act oh that could be cool
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seth's saying you could do like a book test with go dog go that's
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a great idea yeah that's that's
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a fun one yeah i i would go for that okay my turn
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for a question all right now here we go would you
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rather be heckled
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by a drunk uncle for 20 minutes or have a
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child call out the force right
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mid show with like a constant i
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know you did that I know you did that I know this one and they're gauging like
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they're actually yelling out the method like that's a shell there's it's string
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it's string it's string and is that correct or is he just like being a shit
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yeah he's correct he's a hundred percent correct.
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Or a or the drunk uncle is heckling did you say or you're having a conversation
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many minutes of your act is just this uncle just right yeah,
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the The first 20 minutes, how much of a show is this? I know,
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right? It'd be a big show.
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Oh, that's bad. Oh, my God. What is the chat thing?
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Drunk uncle, heckled, imagine the views. You know what? Yeah.
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Crowdwork, heckling video would be pretty great. Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, I mean, look, they're both terrible, but I guess...
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I don't know what they're supposed to be. I guess you're picking the uncle because
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at least the uncle isn't exposing the methods, he's just being a drunk, annoying mess,
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whereas the person correctly shouting out the methods to what you're doing or about to do is...
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Is very bad for us. Right.
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If someone's saying, you know, I come out on stage and they're like,
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why is there a bulge in your jacket? Is there a wine bottle in there? Drunkle.
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The drunkle. That's a good word. I like it. That's a great word.
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We've invented a few words in this podcast. Before you were on,
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Nick, we invented this word called liquid fluel.
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And then, yeah, now drunkle. I'm sure there's another one somewhere,
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but I like what's happening.
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Okay, I'm going to go. what are you picking oh dude i'm
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gonna i'm gonna go the drunkle because if anyone if
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anyone was at the last theater or magic show
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that i did which was i don't
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know to my knowledge one of the worst heckling crowds that theater has ever
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seen i can handle it i can yeah we've had we we've had there's been three times
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that we have had to firmly warn people that that we asked to leave if they don't
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stop, but it's always been an individual person.
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This is the first time that you had like four people.
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And an army of assholes. Yeah.
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And AA, yeah. All right, let's go number four.
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Would you rather have to use a Sphingali deck for every card trick,
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oh God, or be forced to perform everything gimmick-free for the rest of your
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life, what would you choose?
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I mean, that doesn't seem so bad. Okay, hang on a second.
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When you say gimmick-free, we're talking like no double-crossed, no shells, no flaps.
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No holders for things. No holdouts.
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Yeah, it's got to be just whatever organically you would purchase something as. No flash paper? No.
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I guess that would be a gimmick. That would be a gimmick. No indexes.
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Oh, my God. A life without indexes. I'd be miserable. No indexes. No toppits.
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Just the straight. No need for sleeve. Could I sleeve?
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Only you can't have an altered suit. But you can sleeve as a board suit. That goes my career.
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Yeah. If I can't alter a suit, I don't even have a career. Shit.
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Or you can have all your gimmicks. But anytime you use a deck of cards,
25:13
it's got to be a Spengali.
25:16
Oh that's bad man that's let me okay i'm gonna i'm walking you through my thought
25:22
process right i'm gonna verbalize what my brain is i mean so basically you have
25:26
to become gregory wilson,
25:28
because he just tends to just borrow stuff and
25:31
have some coins on him and yeah take in the
25:34
full spirit of melini look the spangali deck is awesome you could do some very
25:39
cool stuff with it you could probably do the best akon in the most easy fashion
25:43
you could still do really cool stuff like card in the box you could still do
25:46
really cool things like that having cards signed would probably be a little
25:50
more difficult you just never have any respect from magicians.
25:57
I think i think because i've spent so
26:00
much of my past being entirely gimmickless prior
26:03
to you know naturally stepping into
26:06
that realm in which you start using shells and
26:09
this and that to elevate your magic and implementing gimmicks into
26:12
your into your notion yeah yeah okay
26:16
i'm going to say i'm gonna say entirely
26:20
gimmickless wow yeah
26:24
damn yeah like as
26:28
in like walk into a room of magicians and borrow stuff
26:30
and blow their minds like i i could survive like that and i could also push
26:35
myself further to to to keep being awesome so that's my choice does gimmicks
26:41
also mean i can't use a stack a stacked deck is that does that count as gimmicked i'm gonna say no.
26:50
No because if i can if you're
26:52
saying i can still use a stack deck i can still do
26:55
all my coin magic essentially except for the
26:58
the wine bottle and i can still do rubber bands because i
27:01
just buy normal rubber bands i think i would be
27:04
okay with doing just gimmickless magic
27:07
forever yeah yeah i think i'm gonna go with
27:10
that too gutbuster mike also makes a good point who who needs magician's respect
27:15
anyway yeah they're not gonna hire us anyway those guys just yeah that's a tough
27:20
one man that is tough all right okay let's carry on all right this was this
27:25
was a i wasn't really sure how to word this one but this is my thought it was would you rather,
27:30
have to open every show with cups and balls using plastic cups or close every show,
27:38
with sponge balls to music.
27:41
Well, that's going to be hard to close. Well, there is a Spanish magician who
27:48
does a very good Spongeball act to music.
27:53
And it is very impressive.
27:56
Gaston is amazing. Yeah. Gaston is his name.
27:59
Is it? And yeah, he said he recently sent me one of his videos to react to.
28:05
And even what one of the phases he can do in his act is take the sponge ball
28:10
and he goes like this and almost like a card spring the sponge ball separates in midair into portions,
28:19
and then he grabs it all again and it goes back
28:21
into the sponge ball so stuff like that
28:24
is very creative and and that's i
28:28
would be happy doing that doing cups let me just reiterate reiterate
28:31
we're talking about every show every
28:34
show yeah yeah i
28:37
guess the thing with yeah it's plastic cups and balls why
28:40
am i trying to talk up sponge balls it's all
28:43
terrible but at least like you've got the rest of the show to
28:46
build on after you show a kid's plastic cups and
28:48
balls like at least you can say something like this is how i
28:51
got started in magic or whatever well well jesse
28:54
jesse's saying that like that that there's a really good options as
28:57
far as he's concerned well you know they may have just described
29:00
many magicians shows yes they open with cups
29:03
and balls they bought from yeah a box
29:07
and then they end with audience participation and the balls end up in their
29:12
hand yes yeah yeah but if i had to yeah what are you choosing look i'm thinking
29:19
look i love the cups and balls and i i used to close my shows with it but i'd
29:22
be more than happy to open with it like it's a very strong opener.
29:25
And if I was going to do it with plastic cups, I would just do it with like
29:28
the really cool, like the ones like the red with the white rim,
29:32
like the ones you see in those like sorority type movies and stuff,
29:35
you know, like with the, you know, the keggers, like I would use those.
29:38
And I think that would look cool. And you could do, you could really take it to like that.
29:42
Is it David Regal that does something like that where like he produces little
29:45
shot glasses in between stuff? You could probably do like smaller ones beyond that.
29:50
Or is it Sean Farnham who does like a routine like that, you know?
29:52
Well, there is. And someone in the chat will mention it. there is
29:55
a magician who does an amazing sequence of
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cups and balls where they start with the kids cups and balls move to
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the pro ones and then the ending is everything like
30:06
the the kids ones ends up underneath the
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pro ones that's right load and that's such
30:11
and such that's so that yeah very creative thinking i've
30:15
similarly been thinking about like these rubik's
30:18
cubes i picked up recently they i found these in
30:22
a in a toy store and they
30:25
move very well they only
30:28
cost me 50 cents per cube which
30:31
is insane dude i was trying to find them online
30:34
i actually think that they made a mistake because when i checked online you
30:38
can only buy the two by two cubes for
30:41
50 cents and those ones actually know
30:44
so i think that that store specifically made
30:47
a big mistake and you've just really yeah yeah
30:51
because i was like i'm gonna buy some because i've always wanted to do
30:54
the artwork that people do with those ones but i
30:57
didn't want to spend the cube to do like a two thousand dollar piece of artwork
31:01
you know and customize it and put like a portion there or something like that
31:05
you know what i mean so all right now jesse is asking what what cubit is so
31:09
it's called a the actual branding on the box says it's a three five seven.
31:16
Speed Up is what they called it. Three, five, seven, Speed Up is like the brand on the box.
31:22
It doesn't even say the word Rubik's Cube.
31:25
And so I can do all the normal stuff that I would with a cube I buy from Henry
31:32
Harrius, but it's so much cheaper, which makes me think like ideally great.
31:37
Then I can use these in shows, give them away. I'm spending less money.
31:40
But when I showed this to the amazing Nigel at Theater of Magic,
31:44
he's like, the thing is with this one though it
31:47
does look a lot more kitty than the
31:51
ones i'm using so then the question because when you when you're actually here
31:54
feeling this it does feel a lot more plasticky you can hear it dude it literally
32:00
sounds like that's like yeah like although it but the thing is i can i can do
32:07
all of the normal ungimmicked magic that i would with another cube with this one.
32:11
Like you would have no problem using it. But yeah. So the question is kind of
32:14
like with the cups and balls, like, could I get away with using this in a show?
32:19
And my thought is maybe I use it as a, a building upon thing where I use this first.
32:26
And I say, this is the first kind of cube I ever got as a kid.
32:29
And then I move into like the more, I don't want to say adults looking ones.
32:34
Cause they're still like a puzzle,
32:36
but then I move into the nicer looking ones, you know, I don't know.
32:44
So, cups and balls is what we're agreeing on. I'm going with cups,
32:47
man. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going with the cups. Yeah. All right.
32:52
Hell yeah. Okay. Here we go. Number six.
32:56
Would you rather accidentally leave your thumbtip on the dinner table or drop
33:02
your invisible thread loop while shaking a booker's hand?
33:08
I'm thinking. would you rather lose
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your thumb tip so is it basically saying at a gig
33:14
would you rather lose your thumb tip or lose your invisible thread i think i'd
33:19
rather lose my thread because no one's going to see that i've lost my thread
33:23
as it is invisible but i think losing a thumb tip or something of that nature
33:28
would be tough i was reminded of a story recently about,
33:32
darren brown doing a show and him having a particular type of gimmick on his
33:35
thumb it could have been something to the effect of like a nail writer or,
33:38
or some sort of thumb tip of, of that nature.
33:40
And what happened was in the middle of the show, it, it come off and it fell
33:44
and like went on the stage and it was kind of like, everyone was like,
33:48
kind of, oh, what was that? And the way he played it off was genius.
33:50
Cause he just like grabbed it and was like, oh, and then walked over to a table.
33:54
Like it was a bolt that had come off a prop and then just like pretended to
33:57
fix the prop while putting it back on his thumb and then just sort of like went back.
34:00
But I was like, that is very clever thinking, you know? Yeah.
34:04
Yeah, so I think that I would rather lose something invisible so that no one
34:08
sees I've lost it than losing a thumbtip where everyone's like,
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what's this thumb doing here?
34:14
The annoying thing with loops is I always break them not when I'm performing.
34:19
It's always when I reach into my pocket and it gets snagged on something or.
34:23
Yeah, or I don't think I've gotten it caught on shaking someone's hand.
34:27
But it's always not when I'm performing.
34:30
It always breaks from just trivial stuff. and i'm
34:33
like god damn it that's yeah and only when
34:35
you're gigging like you wear it on their day-to-day you
34:38
go to the gym you sit in the sauna you have a shower you
34:41
literally have balls of lint gathering around this
34:45
thing and you're looking at your wrist being like i can see.
34:47
It from here like it's gathered so much dust and moss and then you put
34:50
a fresh one for a gig and then
34:53
you high five someone and it snaps like it's just like why
34:57
yeah you know gets caught on their watch or you
34:59
know i always do you do this
35:02
i always know now to take my jackets off while like
35:05
stretching my fingers out so that when the sleeves
35:08
come off it can't pull the loop the loop off
35:11
my hand because so many times it would just take it off with my
35:14
jacket and i'd be like god damn it yeah yeah yeah
35:18
i'm gonna break some i'm gonna break some i think
35:20
the guys the thumb chip is deeper than the
35:23
loops that's a good point there that is
35:26
true yeah you know
35:29
what would be funnier if a thumb tip was shaped like a dick and and
35:33
so like because you would be on your thumb and now i'm
35:35
supposed to see the thumb tip anyway but if it ever did get left behind it's
35:38
like what's this dick doing here and that'd be
35:41
weird that'd be a little weird man yeah yeah okay on to the next one you ready
35:47
I'm ready Would you rather Only be able to perform card tricks Or Never touch
35:57
playing cards again So I'll just reiterate.
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Card tricks and only card tricks For the rest of your days Or Be able to do
36:08
everything in the world Except Card tricks Hmm This does require some thought It's a tough one,
36:16
i'm gonna need to see what the chat thinks about that one because boy do i love
36:21
me some card magic can you use other cards you like okay index cards is that
36:28
what you're sort of meaning like.
36:31
Yeah coin magic is superior i would break my heart to let go of coin magic which
36:36
is as it's my favorite discipline in magic as as it is alex's as well but coin
36:42
tricks can't play as big as cards just because the prop themselves aren't as big. Yeah.
36:48
Eric Jones once talked about him trying to put on a coin show. He's like...
36:53
I'm going to put on a show that's purely coin magic. And then afterwards he
36:57
said, it turned out that was a terrible idea.
37:01
And there's only so much you can do with coins, even how amazing they are.
37:06
Yeah. And if Jonesy struggles to do it, what help do us mere mortals have?
37:11
You know? I definitely believe you can do, I mean, you can do exceptional shows
37:18
without having to bring out a deck of cards.
37:20
But are you really fulfilled as a, in your
37:23
life well so what we ball
37:27
makes a good point here saying that darren brown stopped doing
37:29
cards yeah yeah god
37:32
i hate mentalism so i mean i don't hate it it's just
37:35
that like you know i'm just i get tired of tricks that take three seconds but
37:40
you cram it into 30 minutes that's all you know all this stuff yeah damn it
37:47
that's so tough think about it okay alex just said it well we're talking no loops, no book tests,
37:54
no coin magic, no sponges, no cubes, no cups and balls, nothing,
38:00
no double cross.
38:02
All right. Oh my word. Yeah.
38:05
Yeah. But then cards are just, I feel so at home with cards,
38:09
you know, like even not performing, you know, just, just, just having them,
38:14
having a pack nearby, you know what I mean?
38:17
And just having that deck with you is fantastic.
38:22
If I wasn't a professional performer, I would happily just stick to only ever
38:27
touching cards again because they're just such a fun thing.
38:30
But yeah, doing it professionally, I would have to give up my love and send
38:38
the cards away, I think. Yeah.
38:41
I'm thinking to last night, I did a corporate show and my first corporate show for the year, actually.
38:48
And I'm only bringing out cards in the last eight minutes of a 30-minute show.
38:54
And I could have put something in its place instead. But if I'd come on that
38:59
stage and tried to do 30 minutes of just cards,
39:02
I would have a lot of fun, but it wouldn't have the same dynamics and fun,
39:06
I think, as the other options.
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I'll tell you what, I wasn't thinking this at first.
39:14
But after what you just said, I'm going to say this, I would give up cards so
39:19
long as I can keep my index.
39:22
I'll let you have that. All right. Then that's what I would do.
39:25
Because I would probably have to just change a discipline from a card trick
39:30
to, like, there's no replacement for a card trick, right?
39:34
Like, it's not like, well, instead of cards, it's like, okay,
39:37
so for example, well, don't use coins, use poker chips.
39:40
Like, you could substitute something. There truly is, to my knowledge,
39:45
no substitute for a card trick.
39:49
Yeah, well, some would say you use cheese instead.
39:52
But imagine roving with cheese i
39:55
mean i would love that yeah oh this is
39:59
a good one what about lucky ladybug is that a card trick yeah shout out to buck
40:04
he sent me a message i'm sure he sent you one too thank you and ask for mentioning
40:08
lucky ladybug on the pod and we are big advocates of it it's great people don't
40:15
really see it it's not a card trick because people don't remember.
40:19
The cards they remember a ladybug disappearing
40:23
from the magician and appearing on them
40:26
okay i think that's still okay okay
40:29
yeah so figuring out what the index would be would be another
40:32
conversation i guess as long as i keep the index i'm going
40:35
to go everything else because i would probably just walk around i'd
40:39
probably start walking around with a rubik's cube all the time and just like do
40:41
nothing but rubik's cube magic and then coins and then this and then that you
40:44
know what i mean so yeah yeah yeah all right excellent
40:48
yeah all right let's carry on very good all right next one would you rather
40:55
forget the method mid-performance or forget the presentation and end up silently
41:01
doing the trick like a confused robot so you forget the method or
41:07
you forget the presentation the method forget the
41:11
method or forget the presentation crap if you
41:14
forget the method aren't you dead in the water either way
41:18
because then you can't do the presentation because you don't you
41:21
can't get to that but okay i i
41:24
have had i have definitely had moments where it's
41:27
been so long since i've done a trick that i've have forgotten like i have had
41:32
to really think about it mid-show I'm like oh god this normally happens automatically
41:38
but I I can't remember what I do in this moment that has happened to me but
41:44
forgetting a presentation of why you do a thing.
41:48
Here's where my head's at. Yeah. The method for something doesn't have to be
41:53
amazing in order for it to be a good presentation.
41:57
Like you can see someone do a trick, right? And the presentation is so nice. It's so nice.
42:02
But like the method, nothing mind blowing.
42:05
It's, you know, oh, he used a biddle count and, you know, and a,
42:09
and a pinky break. Like that's not anything that's going to change the world.
42:12
Right. And you could your way through something if it's piss piddly small trick
42:16
or whatever it might be, you know, just, just in this example,
42:19
but where my head is that if you did the most perfect execution of method and,
42:26
and second deals and whatever it might be, but your presentation is porridge, that's a crap trick.
42:32
But if your presentation is good and your method kind of sucks,
42:36
then the trick, in my opinion, still, that's
42:40
the lesser of the evils is what i what i'm thinking so
42:43
i'm gonna go with with muffing up the
42:46
method because you can jazz through something like yeah
42:50
i'm gonna go with that okay and i to
42:53
play the advocate will go with forgetting your
42:56
script because then you've still got a
42:59
strong method but you can as jesse's saying
43:02
you can trailblaze and go off script and improv
43:05
around it both are not ideal
43:09
but those are our answers in the
43:12
chat everyone's saying like so ifu just saying that's why you only do self-working
43:17
tricks scott saying both are a fatal flaw absolutely alex saying he'd take the
43:24
option b because presentations can evolve in the moment all the time yeah jesse
43:30
off script baby trailblazing.
43:33
Tim's agreeing with Jesse. Yeah. So they're saying they'd rather not have presentation,
43:37
but in the moment, it really does make you look slow and uncalculated and messy
43:44
when you're mumbling your way through a performance with no presentation.
43:50
Both are terrible. Anyway, that sucks.
43:52
Okay, I got one. Are you ready? Hang on.
43:56
Ready. Would you rather have your
43:59
most embarrassing gig go viral
44:03
or have your best performance
44:06
mistaken for a cgi
44:10
camera trick and everyone in the world calls
44:13
you fake oh then i mean
44:15
so both videos are going viral but
44:18
for different different reasons well they're
44:21
both going viral for crappy reasons yeah yeah so
44:25
one is it's a shitty performance but goes viral or
44:29
second one is good performance that goes viral
44:31
because everyone's saying it's fake yeah you know what i'm reminded
44:34
of remember that trick that a what was his name i forget
44:37
his name who did it but he produced the bread he like
44:40
did this and then just like produced like a roll of bread that was like six
44:43
feet long yes yes yes but that was actually cgi was it not he has done it live
44:51
and it was like they have built a whole set and it was black art and they kind
44:56
of flashed it as the trick ended, like there was like his box,
45:00
you know, like a blackout box that he kind of did a thing.
45:03
But yeah, I, there's somewhat of a compliment in people saying that your trick is fake.
45:11
I've had not viral tricks, but definitely on a daily basis, people are saying that.
45:18
Audiences that i'm using are stooges or plants or
45:21
the audience the whole audience is in on it it's
45:24
all fake it's a fake video yeah and i
45:27
like kind of find a bit of gratification in that because
45:30
i'm like well if that's all your brain can conclude to
45:33
being the method fantastic yeah i
45:36
mean let's not let's not mistake you know lennox green who
45:39
had to compete twice at fism to win his
45:42
award because the first time it happened they believed that the person
45:45
shuffling the deck in his routine was a confederate and
45:48
then and then the next time he competed he
45:51
actually got the judges to participate in his routine
45:54
to which they had nothing to say except for you're brilliant
45:57
here's your award so and that
46:00
that also happened to helder gameras he got
46:03
accused of having a stooge duplicate
46:07
the same signature he had prepared or whatever because there
46:10
was a sign card folded up predicted under a wine glass
46:13
yeah and it was it was too perfect him being
46:17
able to remove the wine glass take that card show that it
46:19
was her signed card yeah and i
46:22
think he didn't what i think he had to show the judges the method or something
46:26
like that yeah for them to actually consider him in the competition yeah i think
46:32
i would like to be accused of cgi because then at least you can be like well
46:36
come and see me live and then you can still do it you know yeah great crap a
46:40
crappy gig going viral like.
46:43
I mean, sometimes it is a matter of perspective and you may think it's a crappy
46:47
gig, but there might be elements that is the reason why it's viral and people like that in some way.
46:52
And so sometimes it's in our own heads a little bit, but yeah, I think I'd take the CGI.
46:57
Yeah, I agree. I'm going to go CGI. Okay. We got time for a couple more before
47:00
we wrap up. Why don't you press on with the next one?
47:03
Yeah. All right. I, I've got one on my end, but would you rather be for, oh no,
47:11
would you rather be forced to wear a glittery
47:14
cape for all future gigs or or
47:19
introduce yourself at every show as the
47:23
great norbedo in a dramatic voice bit
47:26
as in like the great and then say your name oh i'm
47:30
the great nick coon yeah at
47:34
every show or wear
47:37
a glittery cape okay wait wait can
47:40
we make it worse by saying like every time you approach a table hi
47:43
guys how are you doing my name is the great nick k and
47:48
it's my job to show you magic this evening is now a good time i'm interrupting conversation
47:51
yeah and and you've even got a little speaker on you so it's like i am the great
47:58
norbedo would you like to pick a phone or is now a good time or should i come
48:04
back later You get this megaphone out and you've got to do the whole thing. Yeah.
48:09
My name is The Great Norbedo. Would you like to see my card stuff,
48:15
my coin stuff, or my award-winning stuff?
48:20
Okay. The glittery cape actually low-key could work because people would remember that.
48:25
Like, I love the guy who wore the glittery cape.
48:28
For all future gigs, the glittery? Oh, my God.
48:32
I mean, we're talking Piff the Magic Dragon, you know? We're talking like maybe
48:36
it's a thing that's stupid and
48:39
for no reason, but it does allow people to remember you as a brand. Man.
48:45
I have performed in a cape before. I'll be, just to be clear,
48:49
I have performed in a cape before.
48:52
It was, it was fun. It was good.
48:57
But man, if you were going to use a cape, you'd have to like really use the cape.
49:04
You would have to like produce a lamb or something.
49:07
You know what I mean? Like you would have to just really take it somewhere, you know?
49:12
Yeah. You have to own it basically. you have to take it you take it somewhere
49:17
like really gnarly you know what i mean but.
49:21
I'm gonna probably announce my name because i would rather people remember who i am,
49:28
than remember like it was this guy in a cape i don't know his name though you
49:33
know who we should ask is bob possible because i'm pretty sure he does wear
49:37
a cape in at his gigs oh i'll be honest But I actually did,
49:44
after doing gigs in a cape for a couple of events,
49:47
talk to my tailor about making one.
49:50
So you can't knock a few times. Here's the thing.
49:53
Is there a way to make wearing a cape cool? If it is made with flattering material to fit your suit.
50:02
But this has to be glittery, just to be clear. This has to be glittery. Oh, fuck.
50:05
That's right. It has to be. I don't disagree with the cape. It's the glitter
50:08
that puts me off. Like the glitter.
50:11
Yeah, it's messed up, isn't it? Yeah. You know what would be funny is to do
50:15
a serious show and just not address it, the fact that you're wearing it. That is pretty funny.
50:20
But the thing is, even when you're sitting down, you toss it behind you,
50:24
right? And the one that I wore was heavy. It was like a quilt, man.
50:27
And it's choking me the whole time because you've got to tie it around your neck.
50:31
So it wasn't awesome, you know? But yeah.
50:37
If it wasn't glittery, I would be more inclined to do it.
50:41
Especially cause I love the idea of like taking it off and then putting it over
50:44
a table and producing a vase or something like that. Like, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah.
50:49
That's like going against my swagger and my image.
50:53
I wonder if I could, I wonder if
50:55
I was saying was the Cape era while you were in a band. I was in a band.
51:03
Yeah. I'm going to go, I'm going to go with announcing myself done. Okay.
51:08
Wait, we got you weirdo. Yeah. Yeah. I remember Derrick Brown.
51:12
Okay. If you have one, I do do it. Okay. No.
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Would you rather perform your best trick? Okay.
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But forget to zip up your fly or perform your worst trick perfectly,
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but you can't stop sweating. Whoa.
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Right. So like you have a, like a trick that you do perfect,
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but the whole time you're doing it, you're just sweating profusely.
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Or you've just done the best trick in the world and your fly's open and you don't wear underwear.
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Well, you do wear underwear. Yeah, we can't make it a felony.
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What's worse? I mean, sweating is terrible because people can't concentrate
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on the trick because they just see you sweating and they know you're not.
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A good state and you need to cool down, the fly, they also can't concentrate.
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Like if it gives sweating on your side of the planet, you're like a quarter
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mile from the sun, you know, in sunny coast. So like it's hot where you at.
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So yeah, it's terrible. I mean, look, I have been in situations where I'm sweating.
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I have not been, I don't think in a situation where my fly is down.
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I had been in situations where my fly wasn't down,
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but I'd gone out and
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bought some new pants and they were
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snug where the
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junk is and all the
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pants i've bought from there since i like them for for magic but i have to actually
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cut this one bit that's where the fly is i have to cut it so that it loosens
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up to make more space where the cash and good for you but yeah where the price
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cash and prizes goes but i remember doing my trick and a lady going your fly
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is undone and to look down and go, no, it's zipped up.
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I'm just, I'm just Nick K.
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Wow. What a flex. Yeah. It was a good time. That's, it reminds me of that clip
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where the policeman is patting down that man and he's like, what's this?
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And the guy's like, that's my dick. Oh yeah. That's my penis.
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And the guy's like, oh, okay. Okay. Keeps, keeps patting him down.
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Nice. Yeah, I guess I go sweating only because that's what I'm used to.
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I have been in that position before and it's not an embarrassing thing. It's just unfortunate.
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Okay, what about this? What about a similar scenario that you can...
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Would you take this? So you have the ability...
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To, would you take this power? So you have the ability to have anyone shuffle
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a deck of cards, all hands off, they sit the deck in their hands,
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and you can do the perfect A-Carn every time.
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Hands off, they shuffle, they can name a card, name a number,
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it's there, but you always have a half booger at your nostril during that performance.
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Would you take that power? What color is the booger?
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Is it proper green? it's it's it's yeah it's not a healthy clear yellow it's like a green like,
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almost like house for a like a kryptonite rock like a kryptonite rock sitting
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there like just right there on your beard and there's like a bit of crust around
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it because it's been there for a while but you can absolutely nail this acorn
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that will fool the entire world but you've got the booger.
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Left nostril or right nostril?
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I mean, you can pick the nostril. Right nostril. Okay.
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Because then I would... Sure. This is my good side, my left.
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So if I just turn my head to the left, someone sits there.
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If you don't think people aren't
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going to see that booger, you're poorly mistaken. The booger is that big?
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No, no. It's just like, it's at least like, you know, it's at least like...
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Half, it's like, you know, it's like to here, it's like to your mustache,
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where your mustache starts. It's sitting on your mustache.
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It's like at least, you know, just kissing the top of it.
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But it's like, it's noticeably there where someone wants to just grab it and flick it away.
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But it just appears every time you do this acorn, because the acorn is so perfect
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and impossible and hands off.
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And every time you remove it, what happens? Another one takes its place?
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Exactly, yeah. Oh, that's the worst.
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But only while you're doing that a can shit that's a that sucks you'd almost
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want to be like i'm gonna wear a mask i'm gonna wear a mask for this one.
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And then you take the mask off and a thousand boogers fall out like that's that's
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gnarly hey literally pick a card,
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okay you know what alex slam is saying a
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kind is boring no deal i'll die on that hill well i
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don't know man if you got hecklers that's a pretty great
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way to to kill a heckler or a skeptic because it
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think about it you ask them to bring a deck from
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home they shuffle it they name a card and
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the number and it's there every time it's just
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that you got a little show and tell each time as well wow imagine doing
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this on the radio like imagine doing this on
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the radio where you like every single person grab
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a deck right now give it a shuffle name any
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playing card yeah count down to that and then you and then someone's like radio
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presenter and then and it's just like oh imagine yeah that's that's massive
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area i'll take i would take dude i would if okay if you did for one person, a booger happens.
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If you do it for an audience, you shit your pants. Would you still do it?
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Yeah. Well, I have Crohn's as I said. So sometimes when you flare up,
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that's very possible that that could happen.
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I'm going to end on this. I'm going to end the show. Like if I could do a trick
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so great that I walked into a theater with 4,000 people, whatever it is,
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you walk into Rod Laver arena, everyone reach under your chair,
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everyone grab a deck of playing cards.
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Shuffle a deck. Name a card. One person names a card. You name a number.
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They name a number. You count down to that number.
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Everyone turns around and every single person has that card.
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But then you shit your pants. I'll tell you right now, I'm shitting my pants.
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Thanks for listening. It's time for us to disappear now.
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But we'll see you again on the next episode of The Magic Guys.