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Rim Report Debut: NBA Offseason Shakeups, GOAT Debate, and Rivalries Return · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  Welcome in to the Scene Project Sports Network.
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  I'm your host, Bubba Starts.
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  You are here tonight for the rim report where we are talking all things basketball.
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  I'm joined by my cohost, Selly.
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  What's good, Selly?
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  What's up, Bubba?
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  How are you doing today?
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  I'm doing good, brother.
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  Excited.
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  This time of year is just jam packed with sports, football season in full swing.
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  Hockey just started last night.
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  NBA season coming up here.
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  WNBA playoffs on right now, MLB playoffs right now.
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  So, I mean, if if you're a sports fan, this this run right now for the next couple of weeks
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  or, you know, the month of October, it just insanity with how much sports is on TV, on your
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  streams, and in your feeds every single day.
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  It's a great time to be a sports fan.
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  Yeah.
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  All the major sports are happening right now.
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  You have to pick up anything you want.
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  Basketball is coming up with the NBA, postseason baseball, NFL, college football, you
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  name it.
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  It's all happening right now.
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  Yeah.
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  It keeps guys like us really busy, doesn't it?
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  On weekends, I...
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  I'd never leave the home because there's always something to watch.
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  Going back and forth.
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  No.
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  I, I feel you.
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  And you know what?
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  We can't complain, especially here at the sports network where we don't cover just one
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  sport.
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  We cover them all.
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  And it's a great time for us because we got plenty to talk about.
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  It can be a little challenging to keep up with it all.
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  At the same time, as I've been a little bit tuned out of the NBA, you know, not just for
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  the last couple of months, but probably for the last couple of years.
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  So I'm really excited to have an excuse to come back in, follow the league, be here with you,
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  at least for the time being before I think you kick me to the curb and take the show over on
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  your own.
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  But I'm really excited, Selly.
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  It's been really nice to kind of, you know, get to know you joining our our network recently.
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  You know, to start the show off tonight and just for everybody out there, I'd kinda like to
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  just get a little bit of who you are, your background a little bit so we kinda have some
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  of that on tape, and then, we can talk some ball after that.
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  Yeah.
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  Huge sports guy.
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  Went to St.
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  John's University.
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  Shout out to St.
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  John's.
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  Have have a degree in sport management where I learned literally everything you can learn
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  about sport, whether it was stadium arena management, sport marketing, agency, coaching
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  classes, was taught by some of the best professors out there.
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  Shout out to all my professors who taught me.
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  I had my one professor who I took twice.
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  He taught me everything I can know about PR because he's the head of PR for the Yankees, so
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  he was great.
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  Works for the US Open for four summers, so I have some experience there working with tennis.
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  But overall, just a huge sports fan since I was eight years old, since my dad introduced me to
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  basketball, football, and I've just, loved it ever since watching...
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  Just learning, watching different podcasts, watching different shows, trying to learn.
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  So this is my life, and I'm just grateful that I actually have the opportunity to talk about
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  it right now.
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  No.
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  This is great, and you're a valuable addition to the team, you know, not just for what you
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  bring as a host and your insights, but, you know, maybe some of those connections are gonna
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  come in handy in the future and can help us to maybe get some access that that we wouldn't
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  otherwise and to help you grow in your career and to be hopefully a stepping stone to a much
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  bigger and greater things.
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  But that's really the essence of what I want this sports network to be.
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  And and we want to be an incubator for new hungry talent to provide that platform for
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  others to grow on.
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  It's something that I'm very passionate about, and I'm really thrilled to have you, Selly.
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  I haven't really got a chance to tell you that when we've had you on the football show or
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  anything, you know, with everybody just...
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  It's a crowded space on Tuesday nights.
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  So really just...
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  Great to have you on.
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  I'm really looking forward to, you know, at least the next couple of weeks as we kind of
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  hit, through training camp preseason action in the NBA before they get the season rolling.
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  So let's kinda start there.
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  Top headlines for you from the summer, obviously, LeBron landing in Philly, has kinda
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  have to lead the way, but there were some other big moves as well.
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  Yeah.
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  We got Ja Morant being traded to the Blazers, Giannis leaving the Bucks to go to the Miami
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  Heat, LaMelo Ball to the Timberwolves.
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  So there's a bunch of new faces and new places.
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  It's the NBA.
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  Sometimes people say the off season more exciting than the actual regular season.
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  So, like, it it was exciting.
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  The off season never disappoints in the NBA for sure.
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  All the summer all the summer, headlines, they're always, they're always popping off.
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  Those are some major shakeups.
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  And even for me who, you know, just kinda watching very little NBA action lately, that to
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  know those those four or five names, right, and that shakeup that you have, obviously, the
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  Knicks winning it all.
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  The few times that I watched them during the season, I thought that that was going to be a
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  team to beat just because of the the physicality I thought that they played with and
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  just a a different kind of hard nosed working class ball.
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  Right?
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  And I don't know that the NBA has had that a lot.
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  Now I grew up in Chicago in the nineties, so I I was used to a a brand of basketball that
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  maybe had a little bit of an edge, especially, you know, in that second three p with Rodman on
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  the team that, you know, we're used to be...
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  Teams being a little bit more physical.
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  And, I think...
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  And I hope that the NBA is going to continue, to kind of move that direction and to to be
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  about, you know, getting to the basket and, you know, shooting the three when you ride.
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  I felt like the the last several years and especially...
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  And, I mean, you you can't deny a talent like a Steph Curry, right, that can literally, you
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  know, shoot from anywhere on the court, not not half of the court and on the court at all.
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  And and how the three ball has really changed the game and analytics on that side have
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  changed the approach of a lot of teams.
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  It's nice to see it get back to being about, you know, the the two man games and really
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  taking the ball to the basket and relying on, you know, the things that I grew up, you know,
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  doing and and really appreciating watching.
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  Yeah.
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  Like you said, this is a...
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  This is the league where when success happens, people trying to emulate the success.
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  So like you said, when the warriors with Steph and Clay were shooting all those threes, you
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  got the rockets and the rest of the league, eventually even shooting more threes than the
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  warriors were shooting.
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  But, like, now with the knicks winning the title and, like, they have a priority on
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  chemistry with the Nova knicks, with Jalen, Josh, Mikhail, And, like, you could just tell
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  their starting five is a tight unit.
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  You saw Jalen on SNL, and the whole starting five was there.
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  But you can tell they're really close.
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  So I think maybe the league might start to value chemistry more now with, not always just
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  getting the most talented players, just you have to have players who fit together, players
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  who played together for years.
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  Like Josh, Jalen, Mikhail, they know each other since those title days with Villanova.
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  And, like, you can tell being over here in the Northeast area, the Nova Knicks just won the
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  hearts of all the fans up here.
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  They played hard every night.
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  They were the opposite of the typical NBA.
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  They didn't load manage.
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  They played every single night.
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  And there was a lot of pressure on them to win after firing tips.
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  So, like, shout out to Mike Brown.
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  Shout out to the team for doing what they did, taking care of their business, honestly.
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  Yeah.
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  And it had to be a heck of a time, in the city.
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  Did you get a chance to go into the city for the parade, Selly?
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  No.
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  I didn't.
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  I'm kinda glad I I didn't because it looked like Gotham City.
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  Like, we we would always say, like...
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  Because before when...
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  Before the Knicks won the title and all those previous post seasons, they would literally
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  celebrate after every single win.
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  Like, every...
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  They would win a game one in the first round, and they would party in the streets, and we
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  would always be like...
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  Me and my sister would always say, what would eventually happen if they did win the title?
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  Sure enough, they won the title, and there's people partying in the streets.
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  They're climbing on poles.
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  They're just...
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  They're going crazy.
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  Knicks fans are the funniest fans here.
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  They're actually the most optimistic fans out of the New York fans.
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  Like, the jets, giants fans, they can be pretty negative.
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  Yankee fans, Beds fans can be pretty negative.
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  The Knicks fans, they're the most optimistic fan base here.
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  Even when they were losing, when the teams were bad, they still filled the garden every night.
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  They were still...
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  The garden was always electric.
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  So, like, honestly, as annoying as they could be at times, I...
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  I'm I'm happy for them because, like, my sister would say, like, the the Knicks, Jaylen
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  Bronson, they played the game the right way.
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  And if for someone like me who's just a pure basketball guy, you you can't be mad at it at
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  the end of the day.
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  Yeah.
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  I...
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  The Knicks are almost like the basketball equivalent of the Cubs, right, where, never
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  having the success, but always having the most loyal fan base.
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  Some great teams, right, that just never do it.
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  You know, the fact that Ewing never gets one because Michael's standing in the way all all
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  those years.
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  And, god, I used to love those matchups even as a young kid.
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  Right?
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  I I was, you know, nine, 10, 11 years old, I think, through the first three.
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  So I don't really remember the first one, but the the second and third really stuck with me.
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  So exciting for, you know, young fans right now in in and around the city to really just be
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  able to embrace this team, embrace basketball.
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  I think that...
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  And and I...
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  You'd be able to speak for this, but the city's a little bit better when the Knicks are good
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  and and when basketball is big and being talked about.
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  And, you know, I I don't know if we ever return to a time, you know, the Rucker Park days and
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  and, you know, I I don't know if just as a society we ever get back to there.
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  Now everybody has too many excuses to stay inside and not be out in the community, but
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  hoping that, you know, this championship changed and got some young kids out there
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  playing some ball this summer and excited to go, you know, look like their favorite players.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, there are people...
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  Like, I was actually talking to one of my coworkers today.
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  She's...
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  She became a Knicks fan over the last couple years, and I was like, you really didn't even
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  suffer.
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  Like, there are kids out here who never suffered through all those bad Knicks years
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  when they were winning, like, 12 games, 13 games a year.
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  But, like, the the the city is great when the Knicks are winning.
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  The Garden is...
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  When The Garden's rocking, honestly, there's, like, no place maybe ever better than the
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  Madison Square Garden, honestly, when it's, like, at its peak.
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  Like, even being a St.
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  John's alum, when they play their home games there, like, when the garden's electric,
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  there's just no better atmosphere in my opinion.
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  You can you can almost feel it through the television screen when you're watching.
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  And, like, when I Oh, no doubt.
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  I got to work at the garden the one time when I was at St.
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  John's.
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  It was like...
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  I was like a little kid just, like, running on the court, just, like, playing tag.
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  Like, I never thought I would ever, like, be this close to the court.
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  Like, it was unbelievable.
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  Iconic, man.
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  No doubt.
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  I I don't care what sport fan you are.
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  You know, the rangers playing in there, the knicks, and all the great concerts that have
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  been in there and just the, the the history and the energy that's been inside of that building,
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  it just...
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  It oozes out of it.
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  I...
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  I'm sure.
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  Really, you know, for me, one of those bucket list places.
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  I don't have a lot of excuses for wanting to go into New York City.
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  I've been into New York state, so I've kinda, like, crossed that off the list.
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  Hard not to have New York on there.
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  You know, since they tore old Yankee Stadium down, I don't feel like that has the same draw.
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  Right?
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  But the garden for me would just be...
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  I...
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  It's MSG.
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  Right?
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  And it's really cool.
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  Selly, now growing up, I know that you're on the other side of the river.
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  So grow...
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  Were you a New Jersey Nets fan growing up?
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  I was a Nets fan.
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  I was a Nets fan.
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  My dad was an...
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  Is...
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  My dad was a Nets fan, still is.
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  I rooted for the Jason Kidd.
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  I fell in love with the Jason Kidd, Vince Carter, Richard Jefferson.
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  Those are some great teams
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  too, man.
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  Ryan Scott Labrini, Jason Collins with coach Lawrence Frank.
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  Like, those are those are my teams as a young kid.
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  Like, I I love those teams, and they got me to love basketball.
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  Like, even though they...
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  Looking back on it, I don't even think they were as great or good as I remember, but, like,
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  I don't know.
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  I was, like, eight years old.
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  So, like, they were they were just fun to watch, and my dad taking me to the games as a
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  kid was just fun all the time.
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  So dad doesn't let it go, follows the team into Brooklyn.
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  You the same way?
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  How how do people in New Jersey feel about that?
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  I've never got to talk to a a New Jersey fan in that entire move.
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  It's weird because, like, no one really, like, brings it up because we're kinda like the
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  forgotten city.
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  Like, I always joke that, like, people always, like, it's a national thing that people are
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  always like, what about Seattle?
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  We need to get a team back in Seattle.
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  And I'm always like, we got a team taken away from us too here, and, like, no one ever, like,
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  no one ever cares or it's not, like, a national, like, travesty.
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  Like, Seattle, like, they're apparently gonna get a team.
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  They just, like, won rights to, like, get a team, so they're gonna get a team again.
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  But I I I think, like, honestly, because the old arena is a...
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  Have you ever heard of the American Dream Mall that we just built...
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  They just built here?
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  No.
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  It's like this mall...
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  So, like, the...
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  So the mall the Mall of America in Minnesota.
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  And the arena is right across.
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  It's, like, literally right next to the mall.
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  So, like, every time I go to the mall, you see the arena, and it's like...
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  I think it's used for, like, some type of concerts, but, like, I still hold out hope
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  that, like, one day they'll come back.
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  I just don't know if they will because it's we're kind of the forgotten place up here at
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  times sometimes.
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  In terms of, like, the sports stuff, obviously, the jets the...
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  The jets and the giants play with MetLife, but, like, besides them, it...
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  I mean, we have the doubles too, so I don't wanna disrespect the doubles.
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  We have them too.
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  Yeah.
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  It's just such a tough place because people like me who who aren't familiar with the East
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  Coast, for me, like, Jersey and New York are almost the...
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  Like, it's the same.
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  You're right there.
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  And and I'm sure that, you know, for that, you know, first part coming out of New York City
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  that it does that, but it's, you know, I...
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  It's just weird.
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  Right?
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  Like, I I don't think of it as being any different.
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  You know?
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  And then culturally, probably not a lot of difference.
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  So I think a lot of NBA fans that are farther away from the Northeast sector don't really...
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  You know, don't even think about it and consider that.
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  We're like, what are you talking about?
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  You got two teams in New York City.
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  Like, isn't that good enough for you guys?
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  Aren't you being
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  I mean, the good part about being up here is, like, you have the two teams for every sport.
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  So you have the Yankees, Mets.
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  You have the Giants, Jets.
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  You have the Devils, Rangers.
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  So, like, there's never, like, double the sport.
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  So, like, you can always, like...
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  So, like, even on a Sunday, like, you still get the giants, you get the jets.
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  I mean, I...
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  They haven't been great for the last, like, decade, but you still get those options if you
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  wanna watch, like, more football.
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  So, like, it's it's actually...
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  It's it's always good up here.
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  It's, like, it's just one...
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  Like, the intensity up here is, like, nothing else.
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  Like...
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  Although I am learning that, like, your Minnesota Vikings fans' intensity has surprised
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  me.
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  I'm not gonna lie.
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  I I didn't know I didn't know you guys were that intense over there in the Midwest, but
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  you So we don't have much to do.
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  Right?
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  There are not a whole lot happening here, especially, you know, a lot of farmers out in
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  these areas.
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  Once the harvest is done, like, it's time to shut it down and try to bear through another
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  tough winter.
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  So, you know, Midwest fans...
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  And and it's strange because, you know, like, New Jersey is probably a quarter of the size,
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  you know, of Minnesota, right, in in land mass, but probably has eight times the people that
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  live in there.
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  You know, Minneapolis as a metro area isn't huge.
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  You know, a couple 100,000 people, and and Saint Paul the same way.
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  So you're still, I think, under a half of...
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  Well, probably just over a half a million people between the two metros and kinda being
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  in there.
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  So it it...
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  Compared to cities like...
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  Obviously, New York City is just a a...
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  But Boston and Philly and all these places that have millions of people in those metro areas,
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  and then they're all stacked up on top of each other.
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  It it is a lot different.
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  So the swaths of space that they cover and where you have fans coming from is a lot
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  different.
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  Right?
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  Minnesota Vikings fans spread all through North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, you know, into
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  Nebraska.
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  They're really into college football, obviously, with with go big red.
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  So it...
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  It's just different in the Midwest.
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  Right?
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  The fandom is different.
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  It's it's a lot of, very, very passionate people that, have to travel a lot farther.
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  It's a lot harder for a lot of us to get to games and to celebrate that.
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  So, yeah, I think that...
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  Because of that, you go in twice or three times as hard on your team and with the excitement
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  level you bring when you get to go...
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  Because you...
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  You're probably not gonna get to go to all of the games.
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  You may only get to go to maybe one a year, in the case of football, and that might be the
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  same for the other teams as well.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, it...
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  It's just, like, the intensity...
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  I'm learning intensity everywhere.
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  Like, team...
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  People are just passionate about their teams.
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  But, like, just being up here in, like, the New York area, basically, like, people will always
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  say there's nothing like it.
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  And even though...
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  I'm I'm biased because I don't know anything else.
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  I'm I'm pretty sure you have someone who listens to, like, New York radio, like, every
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  day.
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  You have fans calling the radio, talking to Michael k being like, I've been a fan since
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  1954, and they're complaining about the Yankees, and the Yankees are in first place.
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  It's like, they haven't won a World Series since 2009, but, like, fans are like, we're in
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  a drought.
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  And it's like, no.
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  You're not.
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  But it's like, to them, they are.
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  So it's...
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  And it's like, you got the Mets.
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  They...
• 20:03
  People call to complain about the Mets.
• 20:05
  They come...
• 20:06
  The...
• 20:06
  They complain about the Jets, the Giants, like, everything.
• 20:09
  It's like, why?
• 20:09
  We have to fire this coach, this general manager.
• 20:12
  This QB stinks.
• 20:14
  Like
• 20:14
  Sully, what you're gonna find out now being a part of the the sports media world is that
• 20:21
  people just like to complain, and sports gives them a really great outlet to do that,
• 20:26
  especially if you have a job that you, like, kinda don't mind going to.
• 20:30
  Right?
• 20:30
  Right.
• 20:31
  Like, people just wait on hold for hours just to get their takeoff, and it's like...
• 20:36
  And it might not even be a good take.
• 20:38
  They just...
• 20:38
  Well, they'll wait on out...
• 20:40
  They'll wait on hold forever just to be like, I think...
• 20:44
  Just to say, like, I think Jackson Dard sucks.
• 20:46
  So it's like, I don't I don't know.
• 20:47
  It's like, what?
• 20:48
  Like, you you waited He's
• 20:50
  seen a play, like, 12 snaps.
• 20:52
  How do you know he sucks?
• 20:53
  You waited, like, four hours just to say this?
• 20:55
  Like, do you really have to?
• 20:57
  It's like but, like, they do.
• 20:59
  And there's some people who call every single day.
• 21:02
  Like, every single...
• 21:04
  I'm I'm just like, don't you guys have jobs?
• 21:06
  Like, how do you call every It's the funniest thing ever.
• 21:10
  Because even me, like, as much as I love the radio, I can't catch every single day.
• 21:14
  Like, sometimes life just gets in the way, and this is...
• 21:17
  But it's like...
• 21:18
  Like I said, there's some people who are just passionate enough to call every single day.
• 21:22
  We have one Jets fan here up here.
• 21:24
  His name is Ira.
• 21:25
  He he calls every single day.
• 21:27
  If the second they mentioned the jets on the radio about anything, it could be, like,
• 21:31
  literally, they could talk about the punter.
• 21:34
  The next next thing you know, Ira's on the line.
• 21:36
  And they're like, yeah.
• 21:39
  Like, fandom...
• 21:40
  I mean, I've been a fan my whole life.
• 21:41
  So, like, fandom is crazy, so, like, you can't really explain it sometimes.
• 21:45
  Sometimes explaining it to people who aren't a fan, it's like...
• 21:48
  It's almost weird because people just don't...
• 21:49
  They don't get it.
• 21:50
  And it's like, I
• 21:51
  can't That's what's funny about my life because I've always had, like, one foot in music and
• 21:57
  one foot in sports.
• 21:59
  And there's a lot of music people that are completely tuned out to sports at all.
• 22:05
  And and I got some great examples of that, and, god, I gotta find the video they made.
• 22:11
  Some good friends of mine, the Hurwigs.
• 22:13
  The the wife, Megan, is a huge Cubs fan.
• 22:17
  So when the Cubs played the twins last year, she took her husband who doesn't know a thing
• 22:22
  about baseball to the game, and it was, it was pretty classic, piece of, sports content, for
• 22:33
  me for sure.
• 22:34
  Selly, if you could still hear me, just give me something.
• 22:41
  Alright.
• 22:41
  We'll get him we'll get him back.
• 22:44
  Really appreciate everybody, tuning in to our first episode here on the RIM report.
• 22:50
  We're gonna be going live every single Wednesday at 7PM central, getting this show
• 22:56
  going.
• 22:56
  Obviously, preseason basketball right now.
• 22:59
  Sallie and I have really never had a chance to just kinda sit and talk sports and get to know
• 23:03
  each other.
• 23:04
  So you're really getting a a little bit of a look behind the scenes, tonight as far as, you
• 23:09
  know, Sully and I building our relationship, but really excited, to be here talking
• 23:14
  basketball.
• 23:15
  Sully is an extremely knowledgeable young man.
• 23:18
  Really appreciate having him here on the team.
• 23:21
  We're gonna get into what players we are most excited about to see on the court this season.
• 23:28
  Mention some of the moves.
• 23:30
  Mention some of the teams that we're excited about.
• 23:32
  Selly, for you, what players are you most excited to see back out there on the hard court
• 23:38
  this season?
• 23:41
  I would say...
• 23:42
  I mean, my favorite player is Luka.
• 23:44
  So, obviously, Luka, especially now LeBron's not there, it's officially his team.
• 23:48
  So Luca...
• 23:49
  Cooper Flag had a great rookie year.
• 23:50
  He's one of my favorite players to watch.
• 23:52
  So see if he takes the next step in his second year.
• 23:56
  Also, just, some of the new rookies coming into the league, like your...
• 24:00
  For your bulls, Caleb Wilson, really opened some eyes in summer league this year...
• 24:05
  This past summer.
• 24:05
  So, like, I'm actually really excited to see if it actually translate...
• 24:09
  Translates into the league because the kid looks special, and I think he went fourth
• 24:14
  overall, but you could have made the argument he could have went one.
• 24:17
  So, like, I...
• 24:17
  I'm actually really excited to watch some of those guys play.
• 24:22
  Yeah.
• 24:22
  It's it's gonna be a really interesting year with the moves that were made, some of the
• 24:29
  dynasties that feel like they...
• 24:31
  They've gone, you know, the the chapter's closing as teams have just gotten older and and
• 24:36
  the league has caught up and changed.
• 24:39
  You you mentioned one of the headlines, you kinda wanted to hit on is the the championship
• 24:44
  window for the Golden State Warriors who had, I mean, one of the best runs that we've seen, I
• 24:50
  think, in this kind of generation of the NBA.
• 24:54
  And now, you know, failing to really make much of a splash at all the last few seasons and
• 25:02
  some new teams that are that are coming up.
• 25:04
  And, you know, it's it's crazy to think that LeBron is still playing and still playing at a
• 25:09
  high level for me because it's like, I remember being in high school when LeBron was in high
• 25:16
  school.
• 25:18
  Like, it's it's weird that, like, it's...
• 25:20
  We're the same age now.
• 25:21
  I'm like, damn, man.
• 25:22
  What are you do...
• 25:23
  Like, that's crazy.
• 25:24
  My knees hurt watching you run up and down the court.
• 25:27
  And I can't imagine.
• 25:30
  And and I know the man keeps himself in tremendous shape and has all the money in the
• 25:34
  world to to take care of himself and recover, but it...
• 25:39
  It's pretty wild, to see it.
• 25:41
  And something that I...
• 25:42
  You know, you don't see in other sports, even baseball now, which used to kinda be, I don't
• 25:47
  wanna say, like, an old man's game, but guys could play well into that time, and you just
• 25:51
  don't have it.
• 25:52
  There's so many athletes these days.
• 25:55
  The the way that kids are coached up from, you know, single digits, right, from the time
• 26:01
  they're seven, eight years old, all the way through all the Pee Wee and Little League and,
• 26:07
  you know, in through all of the, you know, the Freddie Mac, just everything.
• 26:11
  Right?
• 26:12
  It...
• 26:12
  It's it's wild to now see the talent, being just...
• 26:19
  I I don't know that people are more talented now, like, at the top.
• 26:24
  Right?
• 26:24
  Obviously, Michael Jordan in the nineties set this bar so high.
• 26:29
  And now I feel like there are so many people that if you took them back in time and put them
• 26:36
  in that spot, that they would shine like that as well.
• 26:38
  Does that does that make sense?
• 26:40
  Does that kinda translate?
• 26:41
  I don't know if that's
• 26:42
  No.
• 26:42
  I know exact I think in the nineties, like, great...
• 26:46
  A great player is always, a great player.
• 26:48
  So, like, you have the Michael Jordans of the...
• 26:51
  Like, obviously, you have your Magic Johnson's, your Larry Birds.
• 26:55
  Like, those guys will translate any era.
• 26:57
  But I think what...
• 26:58
  Like, you're what...
• 26:58
  Like, you're you're saying is, like, the league has never been more talented in terms of, like,
• 27:03
  one...
• 27:04
  Like, maybe, like, four to 12 on the bench.
• 27:07
  Like, you can have...
• 27:08
  We have, like, the guys, like, go for 50 on random nights where you're like, oh, wow.
• 27:12
  Like, I know he's a good player, but, like, I didn't...
• 27:14
  He's, like, the fourth best player on this team, and he's going for 50.
• 27:18
  I think players are just more talented now offensively.
• 27:22
  Like, back in the day, you had, like, your Charles Oakleys who, like...
• 27:25
  Literally, their job was to just be an enforcer.
• 27:28
  Like, they didn't really have an offensive game.
• 27:31
  Like, my mom would sometimes ask me about, like, Charles Oakland.
• 27:34
  I'd just be like...
• 27:35
  So, like, what...
• 27:35
  She'd be like, what was his job?
• 27:36
  I was just like, well, he has six fouls, and he had to use them.
• 27:40
  She's like, really?
• 27:41
  That's it?
• 27:41
  I'm like, yeah.
• 27:42
  Like, he didn't have to do anything else.
• 27:44
  Like like, I'm telling you, like, his job was just to, like, foul the the hell out of people.
• 27:49
  Like, it's literally...
• 27:50
  Like, now...
• 27:51
  Today, like, there's no such thing as an enforcer.
• 27:53
  Like, if you can't, like, shoot a three pointer or you can't catch a lob, like, you're not
• 27:59
  valued to the team.
• 28:01
  So, like, there's no such...
• 28:02
  So I think players are just more offensively gifted than they've ever been.
• 28:07
  Yeah.
• 28:08
  I would totally agree.
• 28:09
  And me watching the game now, it's just...
• 28:15
  It...
• 28:15
  It's crazy how just big everyone is and the way these guys move.
• 28:20
  You know?
• 28:21
  But way back in the day, somebody who was six eleven was just a big body.
• 28:26
  You camped like a Right?
• 28:29
  You you...
• 28:30
  He parked down by the by the rim and...
• 28:33
  No.
• 28:33
  No.
• 28:34
  No.
• 28:34
  And...
• 28:35
  But that was most of his game.
• 28:36
  Right?
• 28:36
  That was his job, rebound and just protect the rim.
• 28:40
  Now you have guys that are that size who are driving the ball and playing point guard on
• 28:46
  their teams.
• 28:47
  And, you know, it...
• 28:49
  It's it's just crazy to me to be in here and be there.
• 28:54
  Hey.
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  What's happening, Barbara?
• 28:57
  Appreciate you, man.
• 28:58
  No.
• 28:59
  So what I did is I I think I killed the, I killed off the mobile version, because last
• 29:06
  night, we had Tui tapping in with us on the stream.
• 29:11
  But because I had a, the vertical version and the landscape, I didn't realize that the chat
• 29:16
  wasn't ubiquitous.
• 29:17
  So tonight...
• 29:18
  And in the future, I'm just gonna run the one, the one stream so we can all be in the chat
• 29:23
  together.
• 29:23
  Barbara, appreciate you tapping in.
• 29:25
  Barbara, who's your who's your basketball team, man?
• 29:28
  Would love to know, man.
• 29:29
  Drop it in the chat.
• 29:30
  We'll get you in here.
• 29:31
  Appreciate you tapping in as always.
• 29:34
  Selly, I I...
• 29:36
  I'm thrilled to to have an opportunity to just continue to, you know, kinda get back into
• 29:42
  basketball a little bit.
• 29:44
  It's been a long time.
• 29:45
  And there, my guy.
• 29:47
  My guy.
• 29:48
  Barbara, me too.
• 29:49
  So I grew up...
• 29:51
  It it would be a south suburb of Chicago.
• 29:53
  It it was still kinda like the country when we lived out there, but I grew up in Chicago in
• 29:58
  the nineties.
• 29:59
  I remember shutting off all the lights in our house when the starting lineups would come on.
• 30:04
  As soon as you heard the first few notes, You know, it it was go time, and just being a part
• 30:10
  of that era of bulls basketball was really, really special.
• 30:14
  And gotta...
• 30:16
  I still get chills kinda thinking about it and everything.
• 30:19
  Got a chance to go watch the Bulls play the Timberwolves two years ago.
• 30:23
  My wife and I pulled off the trifecta, Selly.
• 30:26
  So the the Vikings were playing on Saturday, and then the Wild played Friday against the
• 30:34
  Blackhawks.
• 30:35
  And then on Sunday, the Bulls played the Timberwolves.
• 30:38
  So the Saturday game, I think that was the year...
• 30:41
  I think that was the 33 comeback against the Colts.
• 30:44
  So we watched the Wild play the Blackhawks on Friday night.
• 30:47
  We watched the Vikings make a historic comeback in the second half from 33 points down, on
• 30:54
  Saturday and then got to go watch the Bulls play the Timberwolves at the Target Center on
• 30:59
  Sunday.
• 31:00
  It was a that was a really fun, just action packed trip.
• 31:05
  Yeah, man.
• 31:06
  Like, you must have really loved the last dance.
• 31:08
  Did you did you ever...
• 31:09
  How much...
• 31:10
  How many times did you watch it?
• 31:11
  I've watched it like
• 31:11
  a billionaire.
• 31:12
  Just the one.
• 31:13
  Just once, but, you know, because I had to, and I wasn't...
• 31:16
  I was kinda late to the party on it too.
• 31:18
  I wasn't on the bandwagon when everybody tuned in.
• 31:21
  I I think because my wife wasn't gonna be into it.
• 31:23
  Right?
• 31:24
  So I kinda waited for a day where she was, you know, working or doing something on a weekend,
• 31:29
  and I just sat down and watched the whole series, in one shot.
• 31:33
  And...
• 31:33
  Yeah.
• 31:34
  Of course.
• 31:34
  Loved it.
• 31:35
  Right there.
• 31:36
  I...
• 31:36
  No.
• 31:36
  I don't remember early Jordan years born in '86.
• 31:41
  So those early years, the rookie of the year.
• 31:43
  See, I don't remember really any of that.
• 31:45
  Most of the first three Pete, like I said, I don't remember the first one at all.
• 31:51
  Vague memories of the second and third ones, but you're talking, what, '92, '93.
• 31:58
  And and then we moved from Chicago to South Dakota.
• 32:02
  Michael, that's what happened.
• 32:03
  Michael retired, and my dad was like, this is it.
• 32:06
  I'm on...
• 32:06
  You know, it wasn't exactly like that.
• 32:09
  But, after the move, it was really hard to get game.
• 32:11
  It wasn't like it is now.
• 32:13
  And I know that...
• 32:14
  Sully, how old are you?
• 32:15
  You're what?
• 32:15
  23, 24?
• 32:19
  Yeah.
• 32:20
  I mean, like, the...
• 32:21
  Those those Jordans...
• 32:23
  Those teams in the early nineties, like, just being a fan of the sport, like, I...
• 32:29
  I've I've watched every single every single last dance episode, like, a billion times.
• 32:34
  Just trying to learn everything I can about those years.
• 32:38
  I mean, obviously, Jordan just being, like, the legend of the sport.
• 32:42
  Is Jordan your GOAT?
• 32:44
  Yeah.
• 32:45
  There's no...
• 32:45
  Yeah.
• 32:46
  And for me, it it...
• 32:48
  It's not about the championships.
• 32:50
  It's not about...
• 32:53
  It's it's about the competitor.
• 32:56
  Right?
• 32:56
  He he he didn't win because he was necessarily the greatest basketball player to ever live.
• 33:02
  And I think that if you put him, you know, best version of LeBron and and they're just
• 33:07
  different play...
• 33:08
  I mean, LeBron is a physical specimen.
• 33:10
  You know, guys that are that size shouldn't be able to move like he does, and you're talking
• 33:15
  about someone that's been in the league since he was 18 years old.
• 33:18
  Right?
• 33:20
  I I I I can't even imagine.
• 33:22
  Right?
• 33:23
  Like, that...
• 33:23
  That's completely bananas to me.
• 33:25
  I was 18 at the same time LeBron was 18, and I was like, playing in playing in the NBA against
• 33:30
  grown men.
• 33:32
  That's wild.
• 33:33
  So...
• 33:34
  But you are never going to outwork Michael Jordan, and a great a great evidence of that
• 33:41
  and smart too.
• 33:43
  Right?
• 33:44
  Case in point, the steal against the Jazz off of Karl Malone, is the level of basketball
• 33:55
  smarts and competitiveness that the man had.
• 33:59
  You weren't going to beat him.
• 34:00
  And to me, it...
• 34:02
  It's the kind of the same thing with with, Brady, in football.
• 34:07
  And and that's kind of why I'm always going to lean to, you know, Michael being the GOAT.
• 34:14
  He changed the game.
• 34:14
  You don't have a LeBron without a Jordan.
• 34:17
  You don't have any of these guys, in the league if you don't have Jordan, coming out and doing
• 34:22
  what he did.
• 34:23
  And I don't think that young people can, really grasp what that was like.
• 34:29
  The league was different before Michael Jordan came into it, and it was it was legendary to be
• 34:39
  able to watch and to be that close was just absolutely a treat.
• 34:45
  You know, Barbara, I'm sure you can attest to that as well.
• 34:49
  Sully having a little bit of Internet trouble, but we're gonna get him back on too.
• 34:54
  That, you know, these young people don't understand how much he changed the game and how
• 35:02
  fierce of a...
• 35:03
  You weren't gonna beat him, And he was gonna let you know that you weren't gonna beat him.
• 35:08
  Right?
• 35:08
  Watching him get inside of people's heads, and it it was just something to behold.
• 35:16
  And I don't think that anyone that never saw him play and never saw that side will ever
• 35:24
  know.
• 35:25
  Right?
• 35:25
  And I think that's why I'm always gonna put him in love with LeBron because I don't think
• 35:29
  LeBron has that.
• 35:31
  And I don't think that a lot of people have that special something that's just...
• 35:35
  Not only am I gonna say that I'm gonna kick your ass, but I'm gonna go out there and do it.
• 35:41
  And and I'm not...
• 35:42
  There's nothing that's going to stop me from doing it.
• 35:45
  And, you know, it's it's really incredible.
• 35:49
  He didn't have to be the guy to take the last shot.
• 35:52
  He didn't...
• 35:52
  You know, you you look back at the times they needed a last second shot.
• 35:56
  It was almost never him.
• 35:57
  Right?
• 35:58
  And you've seen that from the...
• 35:59
  From watching the last dance, you young fella, that I remember when Paxson hit the first one.
• 36:07
  I remember the, you know, the Steve Kerr threes to go up, and and it speaks to the teammate
• 36:13
  that he was where he's like, you're gonna hit this.
• 36:16
  Right?
• 36:16
  Like, you...
• 36:17
  This is your time, and I just...
• 36:21
  I I could never put someone else above that.
• 36:23
  And to me, greatest of all time is reserved for the greatest competitor.
• 36:28
  And...
• 36:29
  Because I think you can have better players, but it it it speaks for itself.
• 36:33
  Those trophies, that man, it's everything, man.
• 36:38
  And I I don't think that anyone from that era would ever disagree with that.
• 36:46
  No.
• 36:46
  For the most part, besides maybe Isaiah Thomas, all those old school guys always say, Jordan,
• 36:54
  he's he's one of a kind, and we'll probably never see anybody like him ever again.
• 36:59
  I mean, Tom Brady probably is the closest guy in terms of competitive, like, craziness that
• 37:05
  we've probably seen since.
• 37:08
  But, like like you said, like, there's...
• 37:10
  There was no other, like, rip your heart out kind of competitor like MJ.
• 37:17
  Yeah.
• 37:17
  It was definitely something to behold.
• 37:20
  I'm glad I didn't grow up a Knicks fan at that time.
• 37:23
  I'm glad I didn't grow up, you know, a Pistons fan.
• 37:26
  I'm very grateful for my my Bulls fandom.
• 37:31
  You know?
• 37:31
  I feel for a guy like Ewing or or, you know, a Barkley eventually, you know, has a chance.
• 37:38
  I think he was on those Rockets teams when they ended up winning a couple in between there.
• 37:42
  So, you know, he got his.
• 37:44
  But, you know, these guys knew they weren't gonna be...
• 37:46
  You you knew when you stepped on the court like this mother.
• 37:49
  You know?
• 37:50
  Like, damn, man.
• 37:52
  And especially when you're talking about, you know, seven game series, there just wasn't
• 37:56
  gonna be a stop.
• 37:57
  So it's it's something in that, but it was all about the work.
• 38:00
  And I think that you get that in in in a way to raise the level around you.
• 38:06
  Was he a little bit of a dick?
• 38:07
  Sure.
• 38:08
  But the expectation was we're going out to be the best.
• 38:12
  If I'm gonna be here and I'm the best and everybody's gonna say I'm the best, if I'm here
• 38:17
  working, you better be here working.
• 38:18
  There was an expectation and a way to raise the level of some of these players.
• 38:23
  Does Steve Kerr ever coach in the NBA and become the championship coach that he is
• 38:29
  without a Michael Jordan around him pushing him as well?
• 38:32
  I I don't know.
• 38:33
  And and I don't know that a lot of these guys would have ever been household names.
• 38:38
  And and that's no knock to a Scotty or or a Horace Grant who was a phenomenal player in his
• 38:45
  own right and so much that he brought, but, you know, it's...
• 38:49
  It was incredible to see that one man demanding greatness, not just from himself, but from
• 38:57
  everyone around him.
• 38:59
  And the way that he pulled it out of you was by outworking you every single day.
• 39:05
  To not sit back and say, hey.
• 39:06
  I'm the best, and you better do as I say.
• 39:10
  No.
• 39:10
  It's catch up and do what I do, and I'm gonna show you how we're gonna get to the top of that
• 39:15
  mountain together.
• 39:16
  And I don't think that there's, that's why in my mind, there...
• 39:19
  There's no question.
• 39:20
  There never has been.
• 39:23
  And and he...
• 39:24
  I don't know that we'll ever see someone like that, ever again.
• 39:31
  No.
• 39:31
  He was special.
• 39:33
  Like like you said, we'll probably never see anything like him ever again.
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  Although there are people who will fight you over it.
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  LeBron, people will say...
• 39:41
  Swear LeBron is gaining or some people have LeBron...
• 39:45
  Like like Nick Wright says LeBron is the go go.
• 39:48
  I guess time will tell.
• 39:49
  LeBron's still playing, so I guess if he ends up winning one or two, maybe people will just
• 39:55
  have to, I don't know, give it...
• 39:59
  I...
• 39:59
  It...
• 39:59
  This is one of those arguments where I think people are dug in, though.
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  I don't think people have their their sides, and they're not gonna change it.
• 40:07
  There's not too many...
• 40:08
  And plus it's kinda weird for people like me who, like, never actually saw Jordan play to
• 40:12
  actually have a real opinion on it.
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  Even though, like, I am a basketball fan and I've watched as many documentaries and games,
• 40:19
  it's like...
• 40:20
  There's nothing like watching somebody play in the moment to actually, like, tell somebody how
• 40:25
  great somebody was.
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  So, like, it's always even tough for me when people ask me.
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  And it's...
• 40:33
  If you barber the the...
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  One of the best stories in sports, man.
• 40:38
  And I don't know if we're all gonna, you know, buy into conspiracy theories that it was kind
• 40:43
  of, you know, done on purpose and and, yeah, you know, that it was a a ploy, not by the
• 40:48
  team, of course.
• 40:49
  They would never do that, but maybe by a fan.
• 40:52
  But you couldn't break him down, man.
• 40:54
  And not only did they win the game, but he went out and scored, like, 30 some points, which in
• 40:59
  in...
• 41:00
  People have to understand that the game was so much different too.
• 41:04
  Right?
• 41:05
  Now you have guys that are dropping sixty, seventy points, and it's happening on a regular
• 41:09
  basis.
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  You didn't have that back then.
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  You didn't have games that were going into the 140 to a 140.
• 41:17
  So, like, you did that...
• 41:18
  The game wasn't like that.
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  It was physical.
• 41:22
  It was defensive.
• 41:24
  You know?
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  And and that's something to point out about, you know, kinda what we were addressing
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  earlier.
• 41:28
  The talent level across the board in the NBA now is is better than it's ever been.
• 41:33
  The total pool of talent from that time to now...
• 41:37
  And and that's where I may entertain a little bit of an argument in the LeBron story is that
• 41:43
  he played in a league that was more talented across the board, but he he still...
• 41:49
  You know, Jordan wouldn't lose in the finals.
• 41:52
  Right?
• 41:53
  I don't get...
• 41:53
  I didn't get all the way, you know, a a 100 yards from the top of Mount Everest to to be
• 42:00
  denied.
• 42:01
  And for me, that's what kinda sets it apart.
• 42:04
  One...
• 42:04
  Once it got into that moment, there was nothing that was going to stop the inevitable from
• 42:10
  happening.
• 42:11
  And and I think that for me is what sets it apart, and that's no knock on LeBron James.
• 42:15
  Right?
• 42:15
  LeBron James is is the greatest basketball player of, I would say, like, my generation.
• 42:20
  I feel like Michael's, like, a little bit before me.
• 42:23
  You know?
• 42:24
  For people my age, it...
• 42:26
  There's really...
• 42:27
  There's no one that's even come close to LeBron.
• 42:30
  But just as a greatest of all time, a competitor of that nature, it just doesn't.
• 42:35
  It it just...
• 42:36
  You're you're not gonna move the needle for me, and I'm sure there's plenty of people on the
• 42:39
  other side of the argument that feel the same.
• 42:42
  It...
• 42:43
  I wish I could put them in a time machine and take them back and let them see it on the court
• 42:48
  in real time, in real life.
• 42:51
  It it was different.
• 42:52
  And it was it was magical, man.
• 42:55
  Yeah.
• 42:56
  Those games back in the day, like, sometimes, like, you watch them and it's like...
• 43:01
  You'll watch an old game and it's like, there's three people in the paint, and it's like, why
• 43:06
  are there three people in the paint?
• 43:08
  The the games are, like, 70 to 75, like...
• 43:11
  And those were the final, like...
• 43:13
  It's the final, and it's like, wait.
• 43:14
  The game ended in 75 to 71.
• 43:17
  It's like, why is Charles Oakley in the paint with Anthony Mason?
• 43:20
  Like, where's the spacing?
• 43:22
  Like, everybody get out.
• 43:23
  But, like like you said, like, the players are more talented.
• 43:26
  Defenses are different now.
• 43:28
  The offensive schemes are different in terms of, like, pace and space.
• 43:32
  So, like, there's more room now.
• 43:34
  So, like, there are some good thing...
• 43:36
  There's, like, good things about the nineties era that, like, I even like.
• 43:39
  I think the one thing about the nineties I really liked, and I wish you could go back to
• 43:44
  is, like, teams actually hated each other.
• 43:46
  And I think that's one of the reasons why people think, like, the nineties basketball was
• 43:50
  actually better, which I don't think the actual basketball was better because, like we said, I
• 43:54
  think players are just more talented now.
• 43:56
  I think people feel it was better because, like, the teams didn't like each other.
• 44:00
  And, like, sports to me is always better when there's, like, actual hatred on both sides.
• 44:05
  Like like, why do I like to watch Michigan Ohio State football every year?
• 44:09
  It's because both both sides wait for this game.
• 44:13
  They have a countdown clock, and, like, there's, like, real hatred on both sides.
• 44:18
  And, like, they don't...
• 44:19
  And, like, games just feel different when both teams don't like each other.
• 44:23
  You just...
• 44:23
  It makes the it just makes the game feel as if, like, it's bigger.
• 44:27
  And, like...
• 44:28
  So that's why I think, like...
• 44:30
  But, like, the actual, like, Knicks Pacers in the nineties, like, those games offensively
• 44:36
  were probably really terrible, if we're being honest.
• 44:39
  But, like, they didn't like each other.
• 44:40
  So, like, it made the games feel like...
• 44:43
  They just made the games feel differently.
• 44:46
  Yeah.
• 44:46
  There were no touch fouls in that era of basketball.
• 44:50
  Guys were catching elbows regularly.
• 44:52
  Right?
• 44:52
  You you have the the the games against the, you know, the series against the Pistons in the
• 44:59
  Bulls before they kinda cracked through and made it.
• 45:02
  It it...
• 45:02
  Just crazy.
• 45:03
  And like I said, that's a little bit before my time even, so I don't I don't have, you know,
• 45:10
  visceral memories of that, but, you know, going back and watching the last dance and getting to
• 45:16
  see it.
• 45:16
  And and fan bases were different too.
• 45:19
  Right?
• 45:20
  You had no distractions.
• 45:22
  There were no cell phones.
• 45:23
  There was just completely tanked fans packing the stadiums and and being outrageous.
• 45:31
  I think the energy inside of the stadiums was a lot different back then.
• 45:35
  It...
• 45:35
  It's how, you know, MSG really got, you know, a a reputation, I think.
• 45:40
  Though those eras of basketball there, it was crazy.
• 45:43
  I remember the intensity of every minute of those Bulls Knicks series and the Bulls Pacers
• 45:50
  series, and the hatred was real.
• 45:52
  There was no love lost on the court or in the stands.
• 45:56
  People hated each other.
• 45:58
  We weren't trying to get along with anybody, Sully.
• 46:01
  Yeah.
• 46:02
  Like I said, I just feel like whether it's the Knicks heat, Knicks Pacers, Bulls Knicks, Bulls
• 46:09
  Everybody hated the Knicks, Sully.
• 46:10
  Don't worry.
• 46:12
  Yeah.
• 46:12
  Like like, when you just...
• 46:14
  Like like, when I watch documentaries from, like, in the nineties, it just like...
• 46:18
  I just love it because it's just, like, real animosity.
• 46:22
  And, like, for me personally, I just like my my basketball when, like, people don't like each
• 46:27
  other.
• 46:27
  Yeah.
• 46:28
  At the end of the day, like, if, like, the the buddy arrow as they call it now, like, they'll
• 46:33
  still they're still gonna play hard and, like, compete.
• 46:36
  But, like, it just...
• 46:37
  Sport just feel different when, like, you don't like the other person and you're trying to go
• 46:41
  at them and you wanna beat them.
• 46:43
  And if you don't beat them, it's gonna kill you.
• 46:46
  It just feels different.
• 46:47
  And, like, that's why I just...
• 46:49
  That's how I prefer my my basketball.
• 46:53
  Yeah.
• 46:53
  You can respect people, and I think that, you know, I...
• 46:59
  When you're on that court, though, there was no love lost.
• 47:02
  And and another...
• 47:04
  I don't think anybody will ever be as as good of a shit talker and a and a psycho on the
• 47:11
  court as MJ either, and that definitely gives him a little bit in the rankings to me too.
• 47:16
  Yeah.
• 47:17
  Yeah.
• 47:17
  Exactly, Barbara.
• 47:18
  And you you remember some of these games probably.
• 47:22
  The Pistons work.
• 47:24
  That team was crazy.
• 47:27
  They were crazy, and there were fights.
• 47:30
  There were punches thrown and just a crazy a crazy time.
• 47:35
  And, you know, I I don't know that we ever need to go back to that.
• 47:39
  I think there could be something.
• 47:41
  And, hopefully, some of the things that the NBA is building in, you know, we talked about the
• 47:46
  NBA Cup and and some of the things to make it, you know, to give us a little something during
• 47:52
  the season because it's a long a long season.
• 47:54
  Right?
• 47:54
  And we talked a little bit about this last night after the guys, jumped out.
• 48:00
  But, it...
• 48:01
  It's a lot to pay attention to.
• 48:03
  Attention is so divided these days that it's really hard for any league or team to keep your
• 48:08
  attention, you know, through a season that lasts nine months.
• 48:12
  But I'm hoping that some of these, you know, evolve and these rivalries come back and new
• 48:20
  new new era of basketball is forged because I feel like the the league is ripe for it right
• 48:27
  now, and I feel like they're doing some things right to to bring that about.
• 48:31
  And and, also, you didn't have the free agent market like it is now back then either.
• 48:37
  Guys played for...
• 48:38
  Came up with a team and stayed there.
• 48:40
  It was a big deal when guys were, you know, either traded or moved on to a different team.
• 48:46
  That was that was pretty significant where now guys are changing teams every year or two.
• 48:52
  And, you know, whether they signed a seven year contract or whatever now, you know, they're
• 48:58
  getting bought out or traded a few years later.
• 49:00
  It's just...
• 49:01
  It's a different business now than it was back then as well, which, you know, better for the
• 49:05
  players at the top for sure, but also better for some of the guys that are, you know, the
• 49:10
  eleventh, twelfth man, on the bench with the NBA Cup and that million dollar check.
• 49:17
  Yeah.
• 49:18
  I do say...
• 49:19
  I do think some rivalries, though, are gonna come back to the league.
• 49:22
  Thunder Spurs, there are...
• 49:25
  There's, like, real animosity, at least on the Spurs side with Wenbanyama not liking Chet,
• 49:29
  which is kinda funny.
• 49:32
  Knicks Pacers is making a comeback, speaking of the nineties, with Hal Burton coming back from
• 49:37
  the Achilles.
• 49:38
  I'm really excited to see him come back.
• 49:40
  And by the way, the Knicks never beat a a fully healthy Pacers team ever.
• 49:44
  Just saying.
• 49:46
  We have Nuggets Timberwolves, which is a sneaky rivalry that began in the playoffs, and, like,
• 49:53
  the Timberwolves knocked out the Nuggets multiple years in a row now.
• 49:58
  Philly, Celtics, Philly, Boston now with the Jalen Brown thing.
• 50:02
  So, like, we're...
• 50:02
  And then you're gonna have the Knicks the Knicks with the with the Sixers again with
• 50:07
  LeBron, the whole LeBron New York thing.
• 50:09
  So we're we're gonna...
• 50:10
  I think there are rivalries coming back, and it's gonna be, like, a real exciting year.
• 50:15
  Actually, like, I mean, we say this every single year, but, like, I I think with all
• 50:20
  these, like, rivalries, whether they're developing or they're coming back, I I think
• 50:25
  it's just gonna be, like, a really exciting year.
• 50:29
  Well, I can't wait, Selly, and I'm really excited to be sharing this basketball season
• 50:34
  with you.
• 50:35
  I look forward to watching you grow in the network, eventually taking over as the host of
• 50:40
  this show in the future.
• 50:42
  I'm really just thrilled to have you as part of the the team here at SPSN.
• 50:48
  And, you know, watching you grow into your roles here is gonna be really awesome to watch
• 50:54
  because I think you're a a very brilliant young talent.
• 50:58
  We're happy to have you coming in as a as a free agent, if you will, onto the onto the
• 51:04
  team, and you're gonna make a huge impact on us.
• 51:08
  And I know Barbara already already fallen in love with you too, and everybody else will too.
• 51:14
  So we hope you guys keep tuning back in.
• 51:17
  I'm Bubba Starts.
• 51:18
  That's Selly and Ahoro.
• 51:21
  Great young man who's gonna be seeing a a lot more screen time here on the network.
• 51:26
  And, this has been the premier of the RIM report.
• 51:31
  You guys are gonna be able to tap back in with us every Wednesday, 7PM central.
• 51:36
  That's 8PM out on the East Coast.
• 51:39
  We're gonna talk some ball and continue to do it.
• 51:42
  We'll have some segments and different things that we work in.
• 51:45
  This was just a, you know, kinda coming in, getting our feet wet.
• 51:48
  Me and Selly still getting to know each other.
• 51:50
  Hey.
• 51:51
  Appreciate you, Barbara.
• 51:52
  You you
• 51:53
  continue to tap in with us, man, and now the football show and now with this.
• 51:57
  I really look forward to it.
• 51:59
  You know, if you got basketball fans out in your network that wanna come in and tap in, We
• 52:05
  hope that this is a place where we're gonna be a little bit more league wide than the football
• 52:09
  show is where we're kind of Viking centric, at least for right now.
• 52:13
  This will be a little bit more kind of league wide topical and focusing in on some things,
• 52:18
  but it's gonna evolve.
• 52:19
  It's gonna evolve and continue to keep being.
• 52:23
  Hey, Barbara.
• 52:24
  I appreciate you, man.
• 52:25
  I I I really appreciate everything.
• 52:27
  You know, you continue to to come in, to be active in the chat, and and bringing people
• 52:32
  into what we're doing.
• 52:33
  It's been a really fun ride to watch, you know, a dream.
• 52:38
  A year ago, we had no shows on this network.
• 52:40
  I had a YouTube channel that I was like, I I don't know what I want this to be because I was
• 52:45
  focused on my music channel and things I was doing over there.
• 52:48
  But, when we started with, you know, originally Vikings United, now changing to the SPSN
• 52:53
  tailgate show and now having, you know, more content coming out and me getting opportunities
• 52:59
  to cover a a ton of events.
• 53:01
  I've done a PGA event, the Vikings home opener, and I did a rodeo last week that we're getting
• 53:07
  credentials for.
• 53:08
  So my life has become, pretty wild.
• 53:11
  I didn't foresee any of that, but we appreciate it.
• 53:14
  We appreciate the the fans that we have now that are day ones, and we're gonna keep on
• 53:19
  growing, man.
• 53:19
  It's gonna be really awesome.
• 53:20
  Make sure you're downloading the SPSN app on Roku.
• 53:24
  These episodes will go out, you know, probably Thursday mornings.
• 53:27
  We'll get those up on there and always have the replays, and, we're gonna be doing a lot more
• 53:31
  with that channel as well.
• 53:32
  So for my cohost, Selly, I'm Bubba Starts.
• 53:35
  You've been here for the RIM report.
• 53:37
  We'll see you next Wednesday.
• 53:52
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