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The Mindset That Keeps You Steady When Popularity Brings Criticism | Episode 516 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hi everyone, it's Justin here, Voices for Voices.
• 0:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much for watching and listening.
• 0:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Whether you're here in the United States or abroad, uh, we can't thank you enough for making Voices for Voices and our uh TV Trump podcast, uh, one of the most demanded uh shows, podcasts available.
• 0:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we can't do this without you.
• 0:29
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• 0:32
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• 0:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we promise won't be disappointed over 515 episodes.
• 1:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh it's just amazing what uh what can happen uh with uh with some drive, some determination, uh, some confidence, overcoming hurdles all the time.
• 1:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, so thank you for for that.
• 1:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We wouldn't be here uh if it wasn't for you.
• 1:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So thank you.
• 1:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh today uh just got back from the gym working out.
• 1:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think I'm into my second week of uh working out at the gym.
• 1:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so just getting used to being uh back there.
• 1:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh it's actually a different gym, actual physical facility than I've been at before because right.
• 1:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I moved a couple times, so that's why uh we're not at the same gym.
• 1:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Regardless, uh I like to reserve my comments after a good bit of time because right now I'm going to the gym, but maybe there'll be a time where uh I might not feel like it, I might not want to, just things are busy traveling, what have you, and I don't make it to the gym.
• 2:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and so uh the the benefits, it's not just you know the muscles and you know binding them after all these years that they're still there.
• 2:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh it's uh it's an interesting process uh to uh to go go through.
• 2:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh but for self-care it's one of the best things that I can think of.
• 3:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it's not about how much weight we lift, doesn't matter about that.
• 3:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't I mean I look at the weight because I'm able to tell if I need to get, you know, if I'm having a hard time, I know that I need to go to a lower weight, or if I think, okay, I can go maybe five pounds or so up from where I'm at.
• 3:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But other than that, I don't really look at the weight that I'm lifting in the same way that I I had growing up when uh in my late teens and and and twenties, uh diehard, going to gym, you know, all the you know, the supplements before the workout, during, after uh the protein drinks, all that.
• 4:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh now I'm just doing it for my health.
• 4:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, I was doing it for my health back then, but I don't I don't have to lift a certain amount of weight to feel vindicated.
• 4:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because what I found out before, and it still rings true, is that there's always going to be somebody who's gonna lift more weight than you and I.
• 4:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's just the way it is.
• 4:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Unless you're like the you know, the world strong man, strong woman, um, you know, and they win those competitions, then it might not be too many, if any, at that current time that are able to lift more weight than them.
• 5:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But taking that aside, it doesn't it would just take more negative energy, it would give me more negative energy if I if I were to again be so keyed into I want to lift as much weight as I can and I'm the strongest person in the gym or whatever.
• 5:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Doesn't matter.
• 5:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It doesn't.
• 5:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, some people may feel like that's what they they want, and and that's that's okay.
• 5:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just sharing my experience.
• 6:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not sharing anybody else's, you know, unless they come on the show and then they share their experience.
• 6:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Other than that, I'm just sharing mine.
• 6:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So self-care is huge.
• 6:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Going to the gym is I would actually say it's more than 50%.
• 6:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's not like, oh well, half the battle.
• 6:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I I've said it in the past, half the battle is going to the gym or you know, getting up and and doing something.
• 6:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I would say that getting up going to the gym, just that process alone, is probably 60-70% of the workout process.
• 6:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because right, if if if you're not at the gym, you can't unless you have a gym at your house, which I don't.
• 6:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh I mean it's it's just way more than half.
• 7:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Way more than half.
• 7:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: As it just happened ten minutes ago, twenty minutes ago, since I arrived to film this episode.
• 7:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It felt like when I was working out, like it it just felt good.
• 7:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe it's because I don't I'm not as concerned about the weight, how much I lift.
• 8:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm there for the consistency, trying to be there for the consistency.
• 8:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And hopefully boost my longevity by at least a little bit.
• 8:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So the gym, great, great self-care.
• 8:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we spent what ten minutes or so on on that that topic alone.
• 8:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then when we look at um, you know, the last last couple days, besides the gym, it's been a lot of taking a lot of mental capacity, mental energy, because we're getting to a point where as an organization we're gonna be doing some things that have never been done before, and there's gonna be people that are gonna cheer, you know, for the good the good people, I guess, and then there's gonna be others who aren't, and I think it it's a good reminder that if we're okay with what we're doing, like I feel good going to the gym, like feel good the organization, feel good with what's to come.
• 9:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's a key factor.
• 9:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's one of the biggest key factors.
• 10:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because we're never gonna be able to please everybody.
• 10:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I talked about this at at length.
• 10:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Doesn't matter how popular, how much money, how many downloads of songs, how many, how much people have in the bank.
• 10:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's still gonna be people, for one reason or another, that don't like the person.
• 10:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I think um I've been prepared for it.
• 10:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But now the scale that we're uh we're working at and working to is unlike anything I've ever seen.
• 10:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It it really is.
• 11:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'd love to share.
• 11:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm bad at keeping secrets.
• 11:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I like to share.
• 11:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I vetted this process out because I've been left, you know, on these analogies, left holding the bag of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do this, let's do this, let's do this.
• 11:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But we don't have resources and so I don't know how we're gonna do it.
• 12:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: First, for me being a believer, God's helping us at his pace.
• 12:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: family at all.
• 12:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I guess if I were to sum up in in the kind of one word of where we're going and where we're at and the pieces being put together as we speak is amazing.
• 12:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Nothing short of amazing of what what's the what's coming.
• 13:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This isn't all me, this isn't again.
• 13:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We have a tight knit circle.
• 13:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Which is what I would say for recommendations.
• 13:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Some people ask, well, now you talk about people stealing ideas and and put and implementing them with their own organization that they work with, and that organization has more people, more resources, more money, and so they're able to make some things happen at a way quicker pace that makes us go, oh well, do we even do this now?
• 14:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Doesn't even feel worth it because such and such is doing it.
• 14:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that'd be another piece of advice I would share.
• 14:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Keep your keep your circle, keep your people in the know as tight knit as possible.
• 14:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: See when people do good things and they're rewarded in a many different ways everybody wants a piece of the action, everybody wants everybody wants to be a part of the organization because they see the success.
• 15:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, if you haven't been there for years, literally.
• 15:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I can't, you know, grandfather people in because what?
• 15:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because they're gonna want the action, they're gonna want the spoils or whatever whatever's to come.
• 15:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it's not me being mean, not me being vindictive at all.
• 15:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: When individuals take things whether knowingly and unknowingly, whether they meant it meant for it to be what it is or not.
• 16:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: The fact of the matter is, if it happens, that that's what matters.
• 16:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I've been burned so many times, our organization's been burned so many times, not physically burned, using analogy, meaning things that we've looked at doing, and the time we can implement them was already taken taken by another organization.
• 17:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So could be a guest, that's one of the ways, right?
• 17:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh my gosh, I didn't know we could even talk to this person.
• 17:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Justin did this, and he he got a hold of them, and I didn't know.
• 17:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I just go to their website and then I just send a message, and and the next thing you know, they got a their show that's coming out at the end of the day, and we don't we haven't planned to interview the person until maybe tomorrow.
• 17:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then so we look like we're late to the party, so that's why there's uh we don't announce a whole lot ahead of time for that reason.
• 18:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So you may be thinking, like, well, you don't really announce things like you used to.
• 18:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, you live and you learn.
• 18:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm a thousand percent into this because I'm living it, I'm living it every single day, whether I'm with voices for voices or not.
• 18:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm still living the mental illness, trauma, recovery, all those things.
• 18:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm I'm living that every single day.
• 18:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And some other individuals, and there's a lot of great individuals out there.
• 18:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And trying to make a difference in the world than a person that just has the book smart, which is good, you know.
• 19:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You need we need a lot of people.
• 19:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But when a person like that goes back to their organization, well, they do, it's like gossip.
• 19:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Did you hear how Voices for Voices have got this particular guest on their show?
• 19:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe we can reach out and put it out sooner.
• 19:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's why literally you just see when the episodes are out.
• 19:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You'll see them populate in all of the libraries that I call, you know, uh Spotify, Apple.com, like all these platforms or have a voices for voices, library within them.
• 20:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that's what we do.
• 20:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Going back to it's hard for me to keep a secret, it really is.
• 20:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's very hard.
• 20:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But as I've been burned a lot, um we're just gonna film episodes and put them out when they're ready.
• 20:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, it'd be nice to some of they go, oh well, you know, this date and this time.
• 20:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, we've had this, we've had a studio, we had the TV studio ripped away from us.
• 21:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because we're doing, yeah, we're talking about real life topics with real life people.
• 21:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So at that time, and this isn't a knock on a studio, it's the studio would still be airing our episodes, and we'd still be filming to have a slot every week.
• 21:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: In addition to you know, these home or on location episodes.
• 21:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But I think that was a blessing in disguise.
• 21:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: At first it hurt a lot.
• 21:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Now we're just filming and filming and filming and filming episodes.
• 22:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So much so that we're we film and dropped five hundred and fifteen episodes.
• 22:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, you gotta wrap your head around this.
• 22:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're not a big corporation, we don't have a staff.
• 22:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You see the staff that handles the film, the uh you know, the booking of uh guests, if we have which all that in and of itself is hard enough to get on the same page, get everybody scheduled to match up, and then have everybody show up.
• 22:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes, for one reason or another, people just don't show up.
• 23:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's happened to me.
• 23:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I've done it for other things where I didn't intend that to happen.
• 23:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes life happens and just want a little bit of grace.
• 23:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So it was a blessing because they said we're we're able to we're able to just film at short notice, and we just talk about the topics of the day.
• 23:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We give advice, we give tips.
• 23:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Some may work for you, some may not, some may work for your friends and loved ones and classmates or fellow faculty members or fellow coaches, fellow artists, musicians, what have you.
• 24:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, you can always count on us to just break it down and bring the real life topics to our shows.
• 24:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so, yes, going back to popularity and all that, some people are gonna like us and love us, some people aren't.
• 24:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's just a fact of life.
• 24:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: For what's to come because as a lot of people before me have said that let's use a sports analogy, let's use baseball.
• 25:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like you don't you don't win games during the season, you win them in the preseason by working out, uh, by it by the practicing.
• 25:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, the games are played now, and so the games have to play themselves out, and hopefully there's no illegal interference with referees or officials or commissioners that step in and put their thumb, their thumb on the scale of this thing or that thing.
• 26:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But you win at the time you're practicing because that way you're setting yourself up for victory if you don't work out, if you don't practice pitching, catching, hitting, bunting, come time for the season, it's gonna be a little bit tougher.
• 26:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that's all we're doing, and we have been doing for for many months, is preparing preparation because we know that the quality of the products that come and services and and such.
• 27:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Come now.
• 27:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Come at the gym, come at practicing.
• 27:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Can't tell you what, specifically, it takes a lot of practice, and so if I don't practice and others don't practice, then the final product or service is gonna look as if we hadn't practiced, and nothing irks fans, people, just humans in general.
• 28:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, people say, like, oh, we're just winging it.
• 28:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, there's sometimes you can just wing it, but the scale at what we're doing and gonna be doing takes a lot of practice, a lot of patience, and I don't have a whole lot of patience, as you know, so I've just had to kind of break things up into little bits and pieces, little chunks.
• 28:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like preparation might take two hours.
• 28:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I may look at it and go, okay, well, I want to do a half hour, do some other things, then maybe do another half hour, and then maybe the next day I you know pick that up and do that third half hour and fourth, etc.
• 29:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But if I didn't practice, if I didn't know it's gonna show, so that's like anything.
• 29:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Anything you do, practicing is not glamorous, it's not fun.
• 29:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We don't have these adoring fans or yeah, we don't.
• 29:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, some practices for certain things are open to the public, but as I've talked about before, there's certain things that people knowingly, unknowingly, whatever, they take the ideas and then they run with it and they tell, tell the world, tell their manager, tell their boss, tell let them know.
• 30:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like, did you hear voiceless voices doing what they're gonna be up to?
• 30:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think we can do that.
• 30:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's why that circle it's gotta be knitted together.
• 30:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And if you have an intuitive if your gut is telling you, okay, this doesn't feel right, you gotta just stop.
• 30:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You you have to, you can't just keep going thinking that it that individual or individuals are gonna forget about it.
• 31:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: No, the more they're around and the more you talk about it, the more they're gonna know, and the more they're gonna potentially share.
• 31:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We don't want that.
• 31:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's why there's some secrecy around.
• 31:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's a lot of secrecy.
• 31:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I know a lot a lot of people are gonna have a whole lot of fun when we do we do we do start doing and we start those actions.
• 31:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm excited.
• 32:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I hope you are because I'm telling you, this is like nothing that's ever been done before.
• 32:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're bringing things together that have been separate, we're doing things that people would look at and go, that's silly.
• 32:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, that's cool.
• 32:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, we'll just move aside because we have somebody else who wants to step into that place and they want to be a part of it.
• 32:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's gonna be a lot of people that want to be a part of it.
• 32:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: In fact, there's already a lot of people that want to be part of it.
• 32:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Somehow, sometimes things leak, and all I can say is buckle up and enjoy the ride.
• 33:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: On that ride, those cars come come by to get on the ride.
• 33:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You want to make sure you're there.
• 33:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, thank you for joining us on this episode of the show.
• 33:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We got nothing but love and support coming from us to you.
• 33:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Remember, you don't have to be a believer to be a part of our voices for voices family.
• 33:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And if you can give us a big thumbs up, like, follow, subscribe, share, repost, reshare, reach into your uh your phone and uh share the voices for voices TV Show Podcast wherever you or they get their podcast and let them know about our podcast.
• 33:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'd love to have them as part of the Voices for Voices family.
• 34:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So take care or send them love your way.
• 34:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Enjoy your weekend.
• 34:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll talk to you and see you soon.
• 34:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Bye bye for now.