Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / US pulls all bombers from UK base after new threat
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Big questions swirling right now around a sudden military move.
- 0:03Speaker 1: This morning, all of the US Air Force long-range bombers
- 0:07Speaker 1: that were stationed at an air base in the UK
- 0:09Speaker 1: are now back in the United States. According to a
- 0:12Speaker 1: US official, they were flown out suddenly after an unspecified
- 0:16Speaker 1: new threat. And this comes just days after Five people
- 0:20Speaker 1: were arrested in connection with an alleged Iranian plot to
- 0:23Speaker 1: target that same airbase in the UK. They were later
- 0:26Speaker 1: released on bail. And a sixth man was arrested last
- 0:29Speaker 1: week as well, was also released. A source familiar with
- 0:33Speaker 1: the situation tells CNN that the latest threat is a
- 0:36Speaker 1: quote-unquote real-world incident. CNN's Matthew Chance is tracking this one
- 0:40Speaker 1: from London. And Matthew, there just seems to be a
- 0:43Speaker 1: lot of questions around why, why so suddenly, and what
- 0:47Speaker 1: we really know about it. What are you picking up?
- 0:52Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of questions why it happened. Unfortunately, no
- 0:56Speaker 2: really good answers at the moment. I've just got off
- 0:58Speaker 2: the phone with the British Ministry of Defence, and they've
- 1:00Speaker 2: just flatly refused to comment, saying we don't comment on
- 1:03Speaker 2: the operations and the capabilities of other nations, which seems
- 1:07Speaker 2: extremely odd, given that this is one of the main
- 1:10Speaker 2: US air bases on British soil. Absolutely paramount, not just
- 1:15Speaker 2: to the British military alliance with the United States, which
- 1:18Speaker 2: is longstanding, but also important to America's ability to project power,
- 1:24Speaker 2: for instance, well, globally, but for instance, into the Middle East.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Fairford is the base which these B1 bombers, a dozen
- 1:31Speaker 2: or so of which have now been sort of quickly
- 1:33Speaker 2: evacuated from the airstrip back to their home bases in
- 1:37Speaker 2: the United States. It's been used to strike Iran since
- 1:40Speaker 2: the beginning of the Iran war. It's the main sort
- 1:43Speaker 2: of forward operating base for that kind of sort of
- 1:47Speaker 2: operation that the U.S. has been conducting. It can still
- 1:49Speaker 2: do that sort of thing from other bases and, of course,
- 1:52Speaker 2: from the continental United States. But, you know, it's going
- 1:55Speaker 2: to be logistically much more difficult without that base at
- 1:59Speaker 2: Fairford from which to launch attacks from and to return to.
- 2:05Speaker 2: So that's really problematic. The British state broadcaster here has said, look,
- 2:10Speaker 2: you know, this was a military, not a political decision
- 2:13Speaker 2: to move these jets out of here. It doesn't seem
- 2:16Speaker 2: to have been a sort of a sort of an
- 2:18Speaker 2: act of frustration or anger on the part of the
- 2:21Speaker 2: Trump administration. At least that's what the indications are at
- 2:23Speaker 2: the moment, although we'll wait to see what President Trump
- 2:26Speaker 2: and other members of the White House team have to
- 2:28Speaker 2: say on it later on today. What is interesting, though,
- 2:32Speaker 2: is that these jets appear from local reports here in
- 2:35Speaker 2: Britain to have been scrambled. It's not a sort of
- 2:38Speaker 2: planned evacuation. There seems to have been a new sort
- 2:40Speaker 2: of intelligence report, a real world incident, as you mentioned,
- 2:44Speaker 2: which was as it was described to us by U.S. officials.
- 2:47Speaker 2: which led to these planes quickly being scrambled and taking off.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Local media here saying even before the refueling tankers had
- 2:55Speaker 2: got into the air to allow them to refuel to
- 2:57Speaker 2: get back to the United States. So we're waiting to
- 3:00Speaker 2: see what it was that caused this kind of panic
- 3:03Speaker 2: evacuation of these U.S. strategic bombers.
- 3:06Speaker 3: CNN military analyst and retired Air Force Colonel Cedric Layton
- 3:09Speaker 3: joins us now. So we were talking about it a
- 3:12Speaker 3: little bit earlier, but can you just characterize for us
- 3:14Speaker 3: the significance of this action here?
- 3:19Speaker 4: Yeah, Omar, absolutely. There were 12 B-1 bombers that were
- 3:23Speaker 4: deployed to RAF Fairford, which is that forward operating base
- 3:27Speaker 4: that has been used against Iran in the Iran war.
- 3:31Speaker 4: And the decision was made to move these aircraft away
- 3:35Speaker 4: from RAF Fairford back to their home stations in the
- 3:38Speaker 4: continental United States. because of threats that were seen through
- 3:42Speaker 4: intelligence and law enforcement channels to be credible against RAF Fairford,
- 3:48Speaker 4: the installation, but particularly against these aircraft. And as we're
- 3:52Speaker 4: showing here, the B-1 bomber is the aircraft in question.
- 3:55Speaker 4: This particular aircraft, as well as B-52s like this one
- 3:59Speaker 4: and the B-1s again, they are critical to our ability
- 4:04Speaker 4: to project power. And B-1, for example, is a long-range bomber.
- 4:09Speaker 4: It has been designed to carry ordnance a long distance,
- 4:13Speaker 4: in many cases an intercontinental distance. And one of the
- 4:16Speaker 4: things that we do is to preposition these aircraft in
- 4:20Speaker 4: locations like the United Kingdom, so that they get there,
- 4:24Speaker 4: get to their target area, which in this case was
- 4:26Speaker 4: the Middle East, at a quicker time than they would
- 4:29Speaker 4: if they had to come from the United States itself.
- 4:32Speaker 4: So what this redeployment of these aircraft does, Omar, is
- 4:36Speaker 4: it takes these aircraft back out of England, moves them
- 4:39Speaker 4: back to the United States. And it also makes it
- 4:42Speaker 4: longer if these aircraft are going to be used in
- 4:46Speaker 4: any future efforts in the Middle East, any future combat
- 4:49Speaker 4: operations in the Middle East. It'll take longer for them
- 4:52Speaker 4: to get there just because of the geography, the geographic
- 4:55Speaker 4: distance involved.
- 4:57Speaker 3: How much under threat have these forward operating locations and
- 5:02Speaker 3: bases been for the United States throughout this Iran war?
- 5:08Speaker 4: Well, they've been under some degree of threat. It was
- 5:11Speaker 4: considered a safe area up until recently. But bases in
- 5:16Speaker 4: the U.K. have often been under surveillance. And Iranian sleeper
- 5:22Speaker 4: cells are active in the United Kingdom. These sleeper cells
- 5:25Speaker 4: are basically intelligence-gathering efforts by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps
- 5:30Speaker 4: and other elements of the Iranian regime. And what they
- 5:34Speaker 4: do is they can collect both intelligence as well as
- 5:37Speaker 4: conduct potential sabotage operations. And the big fear in this
- 5:41Speaker 4: particular case was that they would actually be conducting some
- 5:44Speaker 4: kind of sabotage operation, which would have been directed not
- 5:48Speaker 4: just against the base itself, but against these aircraft, because
- 5:52Speaker 4: they can be seen directly from the perimeter of the base.
- 5:56Speaker 4: You can see these B-1s when they're deployed there. And
- 5:59Speaker 4: it's not a big distance from a perimeter road to
- 6:03Speaker 4: actually strike these aircraft with an RPG or anything like that.
- 6:08Speaker 4: So I think they took a prudent course of action
- 6:11Speaker 4: in this particular case to bring these aircraft out of
- 6:14Speaker 4: potential harm's way.
- 6:16Speaker 3: I want to bring in CNN National Security Analyst Alex Plitsas.
- 6:19Speaker 3: He's also the director of the Counterterrorism Project at the
- 6:21Speaker 3: Atlantic Council. So, Alex, how unusual is this move? What
- 6:26Speaker 3: are you taking away from this?
- 6:30Speaker 5: It's unusual in the sense that we did move all
- 6:32Speaker 5: of our aircraft from the base. There was probably several
- 6:35Speaker 5: dozen bombers there plus that were been there deployed for
- 6:38Speaker 5: quite some time. So it speaks to the credibility and
- 6:41Speaker 5: the seriousness of the threat overall to the base that
- 6:43Speaker 5: we're talking about. But this also didn't happen in a vacuum.
- 6:46Speaker 5: So at the same time, the bombers were sent home.
- 6:48Speaker 5: What hasn't been as well publicized is. Of the two
- 6:51Speaker 5: aircraft carriers that have been on station outside of Iran,
- 6:54Speaker 5: the Bush has been basically moving towards a port call
- 6:58Speaker 5: and will be out of the region for quite some time,
- 7:00Speaker 5: leaving only one aircraft carrier there with the third one
- 7:03Speaker 5: still inbound. So it's still several weeks until that second
- 7:05Speaker 5: carrier will return, plus the third. And in the face
- 7:08Speaker 5: of the ongoing threat, plus the long deployment of bombers,
- 7:11Speaker 5: in the face of that threat, it makes sense to
- 7:12Speaker 5: redeploy those forces for right now for R & R
- 7:14Speaker 5: back at home in the event that they're needed. they'll
- 7:16Speaker 5: be redeployed or some other platforms will be redeployed if
- 7:19Speaker 5: the president decides that they need to commence combat operations
- 7:22Speaker 5: against Iran again, which he has threatened to do and
- 7:25Speaker 5: potentially signal after the midterms if the Iranians don't come
- 7:27Speaker 5: to the table to make a deal in good faith.
- 7:30Speaker 3: How critical would you say is this base for the
- 7:34Speaker 3: United States? Just contextualize this for us. And what does
- 7:37Speaker 3: this move mean for the safety of U.S.
- 7:39Speaker 5: Troops overseas?
- 7:42Speaker 3: Sure.
- 7:42Speaker 5: So there's only so many bases that have runways long
- 7:45Speaker 5: enough to host these long range strategic bombers. And there's
- 7:47Speaker 5: only so many governments willing to host them, given the
- 7:49Speaker 5: fact that offensive operations against Iran are not supported by
- 7:53Speaker 5: all governments nationwide where we have bases. And so that
- 7:56Speaker 5: limits options. We've also seen Iran successfully target U.S. bases
- 8:00Speaker 5: throughout the region. And many of the European allies have
- 8:03Speaker 5: said that we can't use bases to launch from. So
- 8:06Speaker 5: It is a problem in the sense that it limits
- 8:08Speaker 5: the number of bases that are available in the area.
- 8:10Speaker 5: These planes obviously can fly long distances with aerial refueling,
- 8:13Speaker 5: but that takes wear and tear on the aircraft flying
- 8:15Speaker 5: back and forth from the U.S. would add a lot
- 8:17Speaker 5: of time onto this. So it does add operational difficulties.
- 8:20Speaker 5: But then again, this is a move right now. We
- 8:23Speaker 5: don't know if this is a short-term or long-term move,
- 8:25Speaker 5: but we'll see the implications in the coming weeks, depending
- 8:28Speaker 5: on whether or not the U.S. and Iran are able
- 8:29Speaker 5: to reach a deal.
- 8:31Speaker 3: You know, the Royal Air Force Base at Fairford has
- 8:33Speaker 3: been used, as we've been talking about, to deploy U.S.
- 8:35Speaker 3: B-1 bombers involved in the war against Iran and is
- 8:38Speaker 3: a forward operating location for U.S. Global Strike Command. And
- 8:43Speaker 3: while we're still trying to figure out what this new
- 8:46Speaker 3: unspecified threat is, it is still resulting in the moving
- 8:52Speaker 3: of U.S. military bombers here, as we've been talking about.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Do you think Iran sees this as a win?
- 9:03Speaker 5: I think Iran will certainly message it as a win.
- 9:05Speaker 5: I think from the reality of the situation, this is
- 9:07Speaker 5: a precautionary measure because they're not needed at the moment.
- 9:10Speaker 5: It's pretty clear, again, based on the carrier movements and
- 9:12Speaker 5: everything else, that hostilities are not imminent. They're not going
- 9:15Speaker 5: to start in the next couple of weeks. And that's
- 9:17Speaker 5: not because we have some access to some planning that
- 9:19Speaker 5: we're not supposed to have here at the network. It's
- 9:21Speaker 5: because the force posture speaks to it. The carriers are
- 9:23Speaker 5: being moved. The bombers are being redeployed. And if we
- 9:25Speaker 5: look at the number of tankers that are out there,
- 9:27Speaker 5: it's significantly less than when the war was going on.
- 9:29Speaker 5: So the US has not redeployed those forces in significant numbers.
- 9:33Speaker 5: So it would make sense if there's a threat and
- 9:35Speaker 5: they're not needed at the moment to send them back
- 9:37Speaker 5: just to make sure that they're safe. There's no reason
- 9:38Speaker 5: to keep them there if they're not needed under a threat.
- 9:40Speaker 5: But yes, the Iranians will certainly message this as a
- 9:43Speaker 5: point on their side. And speaking to British officials, you know,
- 9:46Speaker 5: there is definitely a nexus to Iran with the threats
- 9:48Speaker 5: that have taken place. The law enforcement authorities in the
- 9:51Speaker 5: UK are still taking the lead on this. And that's
- 9:53Speaker 5: really important, I'm told, for my motive to also mapping
- 9:55Speaker 5: this out, because we're talking about a nation state potentially conducting,
- 9:59Speaker 5: you know, what would be, you know, an act of war,
- 10:01Speaker 5: an act of terrorism. The difference is terrorism is politically
- 10:04Speaker 5: motivated violence against civilians. This would be attack on a
- 10:06Speaker 5: UK military base and against US and UK military forces.
- 10:10Speaker 5: It's actually an attack against the state entity, not necessarily
- 10:12Speaker 5: an act of terrorism. The designation means something. That would
- 10:15Speaker 5: draw a response from the U.K. if that's the case.
- 10:18Speaker 5: And so I believe the U.K. government is working hard
- 10:20Speaker 5: to make sure that they get this absolutely correct, airtight,
- 10:23Speaker 5: so that the policy response is appropriate, but also that
- 10:25Speaker 5: these individuals are charged and that these criminal charges stick if,
- 10:28Speaker 5: in fact, that's what the case was.
- 10:31Speaker 3: Alex Plitsis, really appreciate the perspective.
- 10:34Speaker 5: Thanks for being here.