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31. Tree Wisdom & Ancestral Healing with Freya Pauline Cartwright · Constellations and all that...

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Tracy Cartwright: Kiona and welcome to Constellations and all that.
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Tracy Cartwright: I'm your host, Tracy Cartwright, and together we will be exploring the world of family constellations with facilitators for and clients from around the world, looking at different perspectives and experiences in the work, having a cup of tea, and just chatting with some friends around their experiences in constellations.
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Tracy Cartwright: We'd love for you to join us.
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Tracy Cartwright: I hope that you enjoy this series as much as I have loved making it.
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Tracy Cartwright: Hey everyone.
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Tracy Cartwright: Welcome to Constellations and all that.
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Tracy Cartwright: Today I have the pleasure of talking with my sister-in-law, Pauline Cartwright.
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Tracy Cartwright: So I've asked Pauline to come on because even though it's constellations and all that, the, all that part of it is whatever pops up into the field.
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Tracy Cartwright: And Pauline isn't a facilitator.
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Tracy Cartwright: You've been to many constellations and you've been with me on my journey from the beginning and held space for me, and Yes, kitty Kitty many times for me to come up there and, um, in the early days when I was
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah, yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Starting
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Tracy Cartwright: out.
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Tracy Cartwright: So I'm gonna let you introduce yourself and a little bit about what you do
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): and
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Tracy Cartwright: the gifts that you bring to the world.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Thank you.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): My given name is Pauline Cartwright.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Been now my ex married name, but I go by the name of Freya.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Now.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I work in energy healing circles.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, I'm a Reiki Master Access Boss practitioner.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I mainly work with healing energies with people, but mainly at the moment I'm working with energy, healing with trees.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And trees are, have been a lifelong passion of mine.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Ever since I was eight years old, I've been growing plants and propagating and working the trees and plants and, and the horticultural.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I formally trained as, as a horticulture student, worked in this field and then recently I rediscovered my roots, so to speak, with the trees.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And then I learned that I could actually communicate with the trees and they heal us just as much as we heal them.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Their energy is very close to our energy.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Their DNA is very close to our DNA.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We have so much to learn from them.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So I'm part of a big learning process at the moment and communication with the trees and working with their energy and helping to heal this world with the tree energy.
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Tracy Cartwright: It's funny, as you were talking about that, I'm reminded, do you remember that time in we went down to the stone store?
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Tracy Cartwright: We've got talking and then we all of a sudden it there you needed a constellation.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And it was, um, quite a down there, eh?
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Tracy Cartwright: Like there was a lot of people around and in the middle of the, what do you call that place?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's park beside the sew store.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): There's a
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Tracy Cartwright: great big tree.
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Tracy Cartwright: Do you remember what sort Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: A
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): camper.
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Tracy Cartwright: A camper tree.
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Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's
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Tracy Cartwright: a huge tree.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Massive.
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Tracy Cartwright: And there were people all around us and we decided.
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Tracy Cartwright: We would start this constellation, and as we started it, it was almost like a, a bubble or a sphere had come around us.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And nobody like, seriously, there were lots of people around and they were walking past us.
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Tracy Cartwright: And then once we started the constellation, nobody came near us.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: It was like this invisible force field had come, right?
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Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
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Tracy Cartwright: And it was a huge tree.
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Tracy Cartwright: It was a huge tree.
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Tracy Cartwright: We were having this amazing experience with the leaves and the tree and the, and they were representing people in different things, and the roots around the tree.
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Tracy Cartwright: The roots around the tree.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And then the ducks.
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Tracy Cartwright: Do you remember?
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Tracy Cartwright: Yes.
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Tracy Cartwright: The ducks came in and they came in at the perfect time to chat.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: To be representative.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: My light flickering mum.
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Tracy Cartwright: I'm in mum's room.
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Tracy Cartwright: What was mum's room?
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And it was like right at the end of the constellation, like we had, I think we must have been going for about an hour.
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Tracy Cartwright: Oh baby.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh, easy.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Just time.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We were just in a time warp.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, absolutely.
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Tracy Cartwright: Time We didn't it, and then as soon as the constellation was over.
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Tracy Cartwright: People started coming back in.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And people walked beside the tree.
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Tracy Cartwright: People did a people talked to us.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Prior to They came up to us, didn't they?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Prior to that?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It was amazing.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It was incredible.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, and all these families, and it was beautiful and, and more ducks.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And
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Tracy Cartwright: it was almost like you could hear again, you could hear the outside world as well.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Because
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Tracy Cartwright: that wasn't,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, we were really in zone.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We were in the spirit zone.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): No, it was incredible.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, and those early days were so special and such a privilege to be standing beside you.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm. And supporting you and being representative and, and getting my healing done too.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Just so many layers were shed.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): In those early years, us
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Tracy Cartwright: perpetual onions, aren't we?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Remember we just used to be talking like this, and then suddenly that would come the, the pepper shaker and the salt shaker.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, and a cup.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And a coaster.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And a coaster.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And they'd all be representatives and they'd all be lined up along the family line.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And next minute, another layer was shed.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm. That was incredible.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): No, it's been amazing to walk beside you because I wouldn't be here today in, in the, um, essence that I am now.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): If it wasn't for all the work I've done in Family Constellations with you, it was like a fast track for healing.
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Tracy Cartwright: I remember how willing you were too, to step into the field and,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And so for someone who is just new to Constellations.
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Tracy Cartwright: But maybe, um, as a facilitator, how would you describe it if you were telling someone else who'd never heard about constellations from your own?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, and I've, I've done that quite often 'cause I've, I've promoted you personally with people and talked about it.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And in fact, I did that yesterday with a friend and talked about her family line being outta place.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, um, I often use my own examples.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I had seven.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Pregnancy.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So I have three birth side babies, child, children, adults.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Now I have four spirit babies and I never acknowledged them.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So I, through Tracy, I now acknowledged my children, all my children, all seven children, they all have names and they all.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Stand in the right place in the family line.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I explained it all to my children where they stand in the family line.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And that's how I explained it to other people.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And they, it's almost like the light bulb goes off in their mind.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And um, and I said that to my friend yesterday because her children were trying to replace her, her ex-husband.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I said, well, they're out of alignment in their family line.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They're not in the place that they should be in their family.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Lying and your family lying as it is today in this world we're in right now.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And she went, oh, you're right.
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Tracy Cartwright: Makes complete sense.
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Tracy Cartwright: Right,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Makes sense.
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Tracy Cartwright: So when you explained to the kids
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: That they had other siblings, what did you notice?
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Tracy Cartwright: Did you notice anything, any shifting in them or?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): My, my oldest, my son.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): He was like, oh, I'm not the oldest anymore.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And he thought about it for a while and he was like, okay, that makes sense.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Because in himself, I think he felt a little bit misplaced in himself and it kind of jolted him into the right place, if you know what I mean.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It aligned to him into the right place.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): But I mean, he also had a tendency too.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): To step into my ex-husband's position in the family, my immediate family, which is me and the, the three children Earth side.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I have to remind him where he stands because he, he slips back in to that role.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I have to remind him, Charlie, you my second child, you are not my husband.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And you know, it's just a natural thing.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We all do it.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, absolutely.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: The, we.
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Tracy Cartwright: We do that.
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Tracy Cartwright: I'm be reminded of where we belong in our family system.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: I have to remind myself often that I'm the youngest.
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Tracy Cartwright: I used to say I was the baby and then one day it dawned on me, I suppose would be the thing that when I'm saying that I'm the baby, I'm still putting myself into that.
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Tracy Cartwright: That young child energy, and at the time I was sort of trend coming through a lot of inner child healing.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
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Tracy Cartwright: Through my wounds and that, and so now I, I, yeah, I'm the youngest.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Dare I say that this little man here, my son's dog has represented it as well and many are circled with Tracy.
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Tracy Cartwright: Many a circle and so is my little, yeah, four-legged that's just down there.
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Tracy Cartwright: Just mindful of your microphone, mum.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, we are just testing out these lapel mics.
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Tracy Cartwright: So the volume, the sound might be a little bit different.
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Tracy Cartwright: Um, we'll see how it goes.
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Tracy Cartwright: It
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): is quite interesting, like, um, my daughter.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): My second, my oldest daughter, my second birth side child.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I had an atopic pregnancy before I conceived her and it was life threatening, and I named him James.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): My oldest is Charles, Charlie, and I named him James and my daughter Olivia just suddenly clicked with him.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): She.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Resonated with him.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): She felt a spirit and he stands beside her all the time.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: I'll never forget that day.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah, yeah,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And she feels his, his essence so much and she feels supported by him, which is really good.
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Tracy Cartwright: Feels a deep, really, it was quite a lot big strengthening in her after that.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Constellation, isn't it?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, it's huge.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And you've been through a big, oh, in the last five years, there's been a lot that's changed in your world.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, definitely.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Well, last seven years, actually since 2018.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): 2018, I lost my father-in-law, our father-in-law.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): My father and my husband left us and moved countries.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So yeah, it's been big, big journey for the last seven years.
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Tracy Cartwright: And that's been part of you finding yourself?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
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Tracy Cartwright: Rediscovering your.
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Tracy Cartwright: Your gifts.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And the magic within, right.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Remembering?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Because we had all these gifts eons before we had this magic eons before.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And we're remembering them now.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They're coming to the light.
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Tracy Cartwright: I'm excited for you.
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Tracy Cartwright: You're off an amazing adventure.
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Tracy Cartwright: I know.
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Tracy Cartwright: Tomorrow you're off to Tan Mato or the, OR minister?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): No, not Monday.
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Tracy Cartwright: Monday, yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And then you are over heading over to Europe.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): To do some amazing,
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Tracy Cartwright: amazing things.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, I'm gonna work with the energy of the trees in Sherwood Forest.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I want, I'm hoping to go to the Big Valley Oak.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Wow.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, near Glastonbury.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'm going be working with the waters and the stones, of course, the stone hege, and then, um, the stones up in, in the Isle of Lewis, the stones.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So I've been work with them and I'm working with the lay lines between.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I've been told the Kanish stones are are in direct line with the UA wall near tpo, New Zealand
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: new
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Wow.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The UA wall also lines up with Giza, which is really quite interesting in Egypt.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Where?
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Tracy Cartwright: Where's the Kaa wall?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's just outta tpo.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): On the Tpo.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Na Naia Road.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): In the Kai Manawa Forest.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And tell me a bit about the wall.
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Tracy Cartwright: What is it?
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Tracy Cartwright: I,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): so yeah, it's, it's looks like a wall.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I thought it was huge, but it's actually small, but it is actually pyramidal La Mound, I would say.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And there's three of them there.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And they've all been geotech surveyed and ultrasound.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's been done on the, in the eighties, 1980s.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I've talked with, I know personally the people that have done it from tpo Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): New Zealand.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And it's fascinating.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Absolutely fascinating.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So that wall is in galactic proportions and importance.
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Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It is part of the, why
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Tracy Cartwright: is it a wall, if it's a pyramid?
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Tracy Cartwright: I'm just trying to get my head around this.
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Tracy Cartwright: Okay.
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Tracy Cartwright: So all you see
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): is a wall when you drive up next to it, right?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): All you see is like a wall pattern and it looks like a brickwork pattern,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: right?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And the cutting of it is so precise.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Like the pyramid stoned, yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Is so precise.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Like you would swear a laser had cut it.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They're sharp edged and it's all been packed in like a brickwork pattern.
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Tracy Cartwright: Wow.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And you know, some, some of the people you know that
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Tracy Cartwright: must have had laser eyes.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): laser eyes.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Some of the people have said, oh yes, but that's a natural occurrence.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): But to get a natural occurrence like that is a bit,
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Tracy Cartwright: well, we won't know will we at this point, but
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): No, but it's, it feels very
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Tracy Cartwright: magical.
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Tracy Cartwright: Fascinating.
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Tracy Cartwright: It really
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): fascinating.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And
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Tracy Cartwright: how, how old do they believe them to be?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's way back in the pre ice age.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Very old.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, they've done huge surveys on it and carbon dating and all sorts of drilled into it.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): You can see the drill holes and put your finger in them.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's fascinating.
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Tracy Cartwright: And so they line up with Giza and,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): and I believe, this is my belief, I haven't proved it scientifically.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Of course.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, I believe it lines up with the Lewis, olive Lewis and the Kalash Stones.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Which are the oldest stones in the UK and they've been carbonated, which is incredible.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And they are a stone circle as well, but they don't have the, they didn't have the, the top plints around it.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Like Stonehenge had, um, stones and that was a,
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Tracy Cartwright: okay.
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Tracy Cartwright: I haven't heard of those stones before.
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Tracy Cartwright: So that's stones where they would do ceremony and Yes, yes.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Very ancient ceremonies.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, Druids worked out of there.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And it's, I've been called, it's
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Tracy Cartwright: amazing how many ceremonies, special places that we have around the world.
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Tracy Cartwright: Oh
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Incredible places that you wouldn't even think.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): There's just a mound in a hill and then some farmer discovers there's a doorway.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And then suddenly they find out there's a whole huge room underneath there.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): As some of those have been discovered recently in the uk, um, where some of the jurors have worked out of.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Wow.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, it's just incredible.
15:35
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Fascinating.
15:35
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They're still discovering
15:37
Tracy Cartwright: history is coming back to life.
15:39
Tracy Cartwright: Right.
15:39
Tracy Cartwright: And, and oh,
15:40
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): it's,
15:41
Tracy Cartwright: yeah.
15:41
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
15:41
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's fascinating.
15:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The other day they discovered, um, pollen in Victoria, Australia, and they did the RNA on the pollen and found out it came from a very ancient cedar tree that lived in Antarctica.
15:59
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): 'cause originally the base of Australia was joined to Antarctica.
16:05
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Okay.
16:06
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And they also, through that pollen, found the RNA of dinosaurs they've never even discovered.
16:14
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Wow.
16:15
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): But dinosaurs that lived in the cold climates.
16:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So it's just incredible what, what the scientists are finding now.
16:21
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm.
16:22
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
16:23
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
16:23
Tracy Cartwright: Science is catching up to what Yeah.
16:28
Tracy Cartwright: What's out there in the world?
16:29
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm. Yeah.
16:32
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): But, um, you know, um, I don't believe that I would be fully present in my own body if it wasn't for the family constellations, because they alone have made me feel like who I am and where I sit in my life and my family line.
16:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Well,
16:51
Tracy Cartwright: there's, from where I sit.
16:54
Tracy Cartwright: There's been a big shift in your,'cause you used to be quite anxious.
16:58
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, yeah.
17:00
Tracy Cartwright: And you don't have that running the bus, running the, the field anymore.
17:04
Tracy Cartwright: Driving the bus.
17:05
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:07
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I still had moments.
17:08
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
17:09
Tracy Cartwright: Oh, we all do that.
17:10
Tracy Cartwright: And
17:10
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): then,
17:10
Tracy Cartwright: but it was, it was, you know, it was higher on the scale, right?
17:15
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh, yeah, yeah.
17:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Out of body almost.
17:17
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm. Yeah.
17:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
17:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Almost out of my own spiritual body.
17:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): That was out of fight or flight and freeze through trauma.
17:27
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
17:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Family trauma, family dynamics with my marriage.
17:33
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
17:34
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): But as we uncovered the layers and dealt with those layers, and they got shared through Family Constellations, that enabled me to then settle back into my body,
17:45
Freya Pauline Cartwright: into
17:45
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): my essence of who I really am.
17:47
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
17:49
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And now I'm just quite easygoing.
17:52
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Bit of a gypsy.
17:53
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
17:53
Tracy Cartwright: Very much a gypsy, aren't you?
17:54
Tracy Cartwright: At the moment?
17:55
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
17:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I don't have a home.
18:00
Tracy Cartwright: No, I've no fixed abode.
18:02
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I've no fixed a boat.
18:03
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I have a home in my, in my heart and that's the main thing.
18:07
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'm at home in myself.
18:08
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
18:08
Tracy Cartwright: And you are heading to going to Portugal and to France?
18:15
Tracy Cartwright: France and Portugal,
18:17
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): France and traveling.
18:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): All just the main countries in Europe.
18:23
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Spending two weeks in Italy, which I'm excited about 'cause I've got a smidgen of it Italian in me.
18:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So if there's
18:28
Tracy Cartwright: anyone that's listening to this, you never know.
18:32
Tracy Cartwright: You might just meet Pauline somewhere in Europe.
18:36
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah,
18:37
Tracy Cartwright: yeah.
18:37
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Just look for that gypsy lady.
18:40
Tracy Cartwright: A tree.
18:41
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
18:41
Tracy Cartwright: And, and you shared with me that you're going to, to the places where Mary Magdalene.
18:46
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
18:47
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I've been really called to Mary Magdalene's.
18:50
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Final, one of her final retreat spots, which, um, in her later years of life that she retreated, almost hermit, like to a cave.
19:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm. Uh, don't ask me what it's, how it's said because my French is not good.
19:06
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Not good.
19:08
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, I'll learn it
19:10
Tracy Cartwright: probably better than mine 'cause I know very little for you.
19:14
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): But I've been called to this cave because, um, there is codes there for, for me.
19:20
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): To download and I know I need to go and sit on those caves for quite a few days.
19:27
Tracy Cartwright: Wow.
19:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So I'll need a, a place to live near, nearby.
19:31
Tracy Cartwright: Oh, here I am visualizing you with your sleeping bag in here.
19:36
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I don't think you're allowed to.
19:37
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's,
19:38
Tracy Cartwright: oh, okay.
19:38
Tracy Cartwright: It's a historic place, so you know, she's gonna go really great.
19:42
Tracy Cartwright: I'll try Gand.
19:45
Tracy Cartwright: It
19:45
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): could, but that's going to unfold probably in the next year or so.
19:53
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
19:54
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
19:54
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Very cool.
19:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): That's another calling.
19:57
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Definitely.
19:58
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And yeah, I think they're all linked together with the trees, the energy.
20:04
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Definitely think so.
20:06
Tracy Cartwright: Oh, the trees are always talking to each other, aren't they?
20:08
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh gosh.
20:09
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
20:09
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, yeah.
20:10
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They, they, um, communicate through their mycelium, through the hors of the mycelium for their little mushrooms.
20:18
Tracy Cartwright: Mm.
20:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And their roots, so
20:19
Tracy Cartwright: down into the earth.
20:20
Tracy Cartwright: But I'm also seeing like the energy in the wind.
20:25
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh yeah.
20:25
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I was talking about that the other day.
20:27
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'm glad you said that.
20:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): When Tuck as
20:28
Tracy Cartwright: a tree and it moves through and it's touching another tree, they whisper
20:31
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): to each other.
20:33
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah,
20:33
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): they whisper codes and song lines.
20:36
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Trees, I believe have songs.
20:38
Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
20:40
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
20:40
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
20:41
Tracy Cartwright: And so when you look at that in the way of.
20:44
Tracy Cartwright: Constellating and in the morphic field as well.
20:47
Tracy Cartwright: It's, it's a similar thing.
20:49
Tracy Cartwright: It was the field.
20:50
Tracy Cartwright: It's the field, right?
20:51
Tracy Cartwright: So it's the energetic imprints and the messages, the knowings that are there, all the information is there.
20:59
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Absolutely.
21:00
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): In
21:00
Tracy Cartwright: the constellation field or in the morphogenic field.
21:04
Tracy Cartwright: Uh.
21:06
Tracy Cartwright: It's in the wind.
21:07
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's in the wind.
21:08
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And trees also have auras.
21:10
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I see the auras as well.
21:12
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So the energy field, and you can actually feel before you walk up to a forest stop.
21:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I always ask permission to go into a forest.
21:26
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I stop and I feel the field, and sometimes it's incredibly strong.
21:31
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They're vibrating.
21:33
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, you know, they're all molecules just like we are molecules making up a human form.
21:38
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They're all molecules the same, um, buzzing around a million miles an hour.
21:42
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So they have incredible energy and we are just learning to tap into that energy.
21:47
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Now, I. And scientists are getting on board with that and learning that too, which is really cool.
21:53
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): But the things that we know innately
21:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright: mm-hmm.
21:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Through our energy scientists are now learning it, improving it.
22:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm.
22:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Which is incredible.
22:02
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm
22:02
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): mm They're mapping their energy moving from tree to tree so trees can hear, send healing, just as we can send healing through family constellations, through the energy.
22:15
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): For
22:16
Tracy Cartwright: the
22:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): lines of energy.
22:17
Tracy Cartwright: And as you talk about that, I think about our ancestors that used to write or put maybe, I don't know, maybe it's just my ancestors are a little bit witchy somewhere along the line.
22:26
Tracy Cartwright: 'cause I can see this very clearly putting their worries into the tree, like
22:30
Freya Pauline Cartwright: mm-hmm.
22:30
Tracy Cartwright: Um, just talking it to a, a leaf or whatever and, um, giving it to the trees to take care of.
22:38
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
22:39
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They did the, the, um, the drawers worked on that, the shamans worked on that.
22:44
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Worldwide.
22:45
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
22:46
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, the Aboriginal Australian, the traditional people did, they worked with the trees all the time, especially in dream time.
22:54
Tracy Cartwright: Well, yeah, it's very strong in Maori Damon too, isn't it as well?
22:57
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, absolutely.
22:58
Tracy Cartwright: Tan
22:59
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): mata.
22:59
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yep.
22:59
Tracy Cartwright: Through the Yeah.
23:01
Tracy Cartwright: Maori.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Absolutely.
23:03
Tracy Cartwright: And it's nothing like going into the bushes here.
23:05
Tracy Cartwright: We call it the bush here in New Zealand, uh, rather than the forest.
23:09
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
23:09
Tracy Cartwright: Uh, what else did they call it?
23:11
Tracy Cartwright: Forest?
23:13
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We call it a reserve sometimes too.
23:15
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Reserve of land.
23:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, because it's a like a preserved piece of land, like your preserved piece of land behind us.
23:24
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
23:25
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The, the Cartwright bush as we call it.
23:27
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, we have a, yeah, it's a bush.
23:30
Tracy Cartwright: Not as in a little bush, berry bush or anything like that.
23:33
Tracy Cartwright: It's a whole, like the, the forest is a bush, just a bit what we call it in New Zealand, isn't it?
23:39
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
23:39
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): When we say we're going bush.
23:42
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): That means we're going into the forest for a walk or a trek or hike.
23:46
Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
23:47
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Or go camping
23:49
Tracy Cartwright: and how it clears you.
23:50
Tracy Cartwright: Like we've got, um, just under three acres here in the backyard and you can walk in there and feel a. Stressed out.
24:00
Tracy Cartwright: Like I could walk in there and maybe even just walking through it as a constellation in itself.
24:06
Tracy Cartwright: Everything that I meet, um, I, I process things.
24:09
Tracy Cartwright: I walk around the, the outer rims, but with within the confounds, 'cause it's all fenced because by the time I come out I feel like I've just done a whole process.
24:20
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
24:21
Tracy Cartwright: And I feel amazing
24:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): because it, yeah.
24:23
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
24:24
Tracy Cartwright: It's
24:24
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): clearing
24:24
Tracy Cartwright: the bush is constellating me.
24:26
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
24:27
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
24:27
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The trees.
24:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The trees do constellate those and all the
24:30
Tracy Cartwright: resources that come up in there.
24:31
Tracy Cartwright: The Yeah.
24:32
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
24:32
Tracy Cartwright: From everything from the mud that I find myself in quite a bit, occasionally
24:37
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): knee deep,
24:38
Tracy Cartwright: because at different parts of the bush there is, there's quite a bit of mud and suddenly you've gone, oh, there's this obstacle.
24:43
Tracy Cartwright: I guess
24:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'm gonna swamp,
24:44
Tracy Cartwright: I'm either gonna walk through this, this is, is this part of it or am I gonna find another way around to the.
24:51
Tracy Cartwright: Surprise Spider web that you walk through.
24:53
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
24:53
Tracy Cartwright: Or the, um, we did have some neighbors at one point who used to throw their rubbish over one side.
25:00
Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
25:00
Tracy Cartwright: And so there's an area where it's, it's not a safe zone to walk in particularly.
25:05
Tracy Cartwright: 'cause I like to go barefoot.
25:07
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
25:07
Tracy Cartwright: So, um, yeah.
25:09
Tracy Cartwright: I. I highly encourage people to, to constellate themselves by going for a walk in the bush.
25:16
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah,
25:17
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): absolutely.
25:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
25:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, and many trees have different stories.
25:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, for instance, I was driving along the road with a girlfriend.
25:27
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I. We were down country in New Zealand in a place called Pew P, which is spelled P-I-O-P-I-O.
25:36
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I said to my friend, we've gotta stop here.
25:39
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And it was just a little park and it had a toilet.
25:42
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): She said, do you wanna go to the toilet?
25:44
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I said, no, I wanna go to that tree.
25:46
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And the tree was calling me.
25:49
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I went up to the tree and I just started crying, just burst out crying.
25:53
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And she said, what's wrong?
25:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I said, somebody hung themselves, or no, somebody was hung here.
25:59
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Wow.
26:00
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Back in the day when if you did something wrong in New Zealand, it was a bit like Marshall Law.
26:07
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They got hung, this person got hung for doing something naughty.
26:12
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
26:13
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And he was hung there.
26:14
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And he was stuck there energetically, spiritually.
26:19
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So I, I grieved for him and then I released him and set him free.
26:24
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And then I looked up at the tree and there was this one branch.
26:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I've got SHIs while I'm talking about this.
26:30
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh
26:30
Freya Pauline Cartwright: no.
26:31
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And this branch had been cut off because it had been call around it, so it'd had been cut off.
26:37
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And that was the branch he was hung on.
26:40
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Wow.
26:41
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
26:41
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Wow.
26:42
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
26:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So there's quite a few trees that I've been called to a lot of
26:46
Tracy Cartwright: stories.
26:46
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, yeah,
26:47
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah,
26:47
Tracy Cartwright: yeah, absolutely.
26:48
Tracy Cartwright: I went to do a energy clearing on a place recently and the PTI tree and the PTI is a, um, beautiful strong tree and it's branches grow out really strong like that.
27:02
Tracy Cartwright: And, um.
27:04
Tracy Cartwright: Maori would place their dead on the branches of the P daddy for their bones to be, um, eaten, you know, the flesh to be eaten or dis dissolved.
27:14
Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
27:14
Tracy Cartwright: And then their bones would be collected.
27:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
27:18
Tracy Cartwright: And on this section of land, which has now been divided up into individual plots.
27:25
Tracy Cartwright: There were three trees and the person had invited me to come out and asked me to come out and do some land clearing 'cause things were happening on the property.
27:36
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
27:37
Tracy Cartwright: And I kept, I was really called to a certain area of the land and um, and I was like asking her what was over there.
27:44
Tracy Cartwright: And there was a, which is a cemetery Maori cemetery.
27:48
Tracy Cartwright: And I said, yeah, I'm really, I need to go over there.
27:50
Tracy Cartwright: And I started going over there and.
27:54
Tracy Cartwright: All I could hear was where's number?
27:56
Tracy Cartwright: Where's the third one?
27:58
Tracy Cartwright: And so there would've been three P trees.
28:00
Tracy Cartwright: Oh, sacred.
28:02
Tracy Cartwright: Like there were like three sisters on this land
28:05
Freya Pauline Cartwright: and
28:05
Tracy Cartwright: one of them had been cut down.
28:08
Tracy Cartwright: And that constellation of that land, there was something missing from that.
28:13
Tracy Cartwright: So,
28:14
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): and the energy field of that tree cut down was still there.
28:17
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah,
28:17
Tracy Cartwright: absolutely.
28:17
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:18
Tracy Cartwright: It needed to be, it never goes away acknowledged.
28:20
Tracy Cartwright: And, yeah, so I invited, what the trees asked me to do was to take one of the seeds or even a cutting something from the strongest tree and to fertilize it and to allow a new one to begin, and for her to plant that onto her property.
28:38
Tracy Cartwright: So that felt really powerful, really potent, and um, that's
28:41
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): beautiful.
28:41
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, it was like, mm. Different way to Constellate, but uh, yeah,
28:45
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah, yeah.
28:47
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's opening up to you the tree constellation.
28:49
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
28:50
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, absolutely.
28:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, and the tree is part of, you know, when you look at the family concentration, you often have a tree picture in family constellations, don't you?
28:59
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The tree of life.
29:00
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The family tree.
29:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Tree.
29:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The
29:01
Tracy Cartwright: family tree, yeah.
29:02
Tracy Cartwright: Absolutely.
29:03
Tracy Cartwright: And
29:03
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): it's been part of many, uh, mythology, um, ancient cultures.
29:10
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The Tree of Life.
29:12
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
29:13
Tracy Cartwright: Mm.
29:13
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's very strong, very dominant.
29:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm.
29:16
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
29:17
Tracy Cartwright: I think our ancestors knew a lot more than we give them credit for.
29:19
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, I think so.
29:21
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Definitely.
29:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We're only just starting to remember.
29:24
Tracy Cartwright: I know.
29:26
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
29:26
Tracy Cartwright: That's a good word of remember.
29:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
29:29
Tracy Cartwright: Because of all the oppression, the colonization, the overtaking, all of the things that have led to us as societies to forget.
29:41
Tracy Cartwright: To forget our powers and to forget
29:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright: mm-hmm.
29:43
Tracy Cartwright: The gifts that comes so naturally to us.
29:46
Tracy Cartwright: And we're, um, we live a lot more in our minds than we do in our bodies.
29:51
Tracy Cartwright: So, coming back, coming back to your heart, coming back to the gut, remembering the gut tuning into nature.
29:58
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
29:59
Tracy Cartwright: I'm just reminded, I'm looking at those words over here that says, you are who your ancestors sung about in their ceremonies.
30:06
Tracy Cartwright: You are the sacred gift of the world.
30:09
Tracy Cartwright: It's such a good reminder.
30:10
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I love that.
30:12
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
30:13
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The Songlines, the ancient Songlines.
30:15
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
30:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We're just remembering them too.
30:18
Tracy Cartwright: Bringing it forward.
30:19
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
30:19
Tracy Cartwright: Into the now.
30:20
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
30:21
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's exciting, isn't it?
30:22
Tracy Cartwright: It is.
30:23
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'm so excited for the future of this world.
30:26
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
30:27
Tracy Cartwright: In a different way to the way we know it.
30:29
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
30:29
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I think, yeah, definitely.
30:31
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
30:32
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And a conscious,
30:34
Tracy Cartwright: yeah.
30:35
Tracy Cartwright: Not everybody's gonna be as excited about it.
30:36
Tracy Cartwright: No.
30:37
Tracy Cartwright: Because it's gonna mean the um, yeah.
30:40
Tracy Cartwright: Deconstruction of a lot of mindset and things that we think are good, but aren't necessarily.
30:49
Tracy Cartwright: Useful for the future going forward?
30:51
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
30:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
30:52
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): There's a lot of traditional approaches to life that constitutions have ingrained in us.
30:59
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm mm
31:00
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They're not always right.
31:02
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They're not always good for us, and a lot of that's actually being uncovered and brought to the light
31:08
Tracy Cartwright: and yet at the same time, everything is uh, absolutely as it needs to be.
31:13
Tracy Cartwright: Right.
31:13
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yep.
31:14
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's all
31:15
Tracy Cartwright: unfold.
31:15
Tracy Cartwright: Who would, who would we be if we didn't know these things now?
31:18
Tracy Cartwright: Exactly.
31:18
Tracy Cartwright: From the experiences that we have.
31:20
Tracy Cartwright: Again, coming back to constellations, the traumas, the pains that we experience and how, uh, 'cause we can't fix them as such.
31:29
Tracy Cartwright: We can't go back and erase that from ever happening.
31:32
Freya Pauline Cartwright: No.
31:32
Tracy Cartwright: But when we can acknowledge those things.
31:35
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
31:36
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
31:36
Tracy Cartwright: You know, acknowledge that they exist or they existed.
31:40
Tracy Cartwright: We can then let go of the burdens.
31:42
Tracy Cartwright: We can or we can give back what doesn't belong to us.
31:46
Tracy Cartwright: Yes.
31:46
Tracy Cartwright: 'cause quite often we shared this, this morning, we were just talking about the same Yeah.
31:49
Tracy Cartwright: When we carry stuff that doesn't belong to us.
31:52
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
31:53
Tracy Cartwright: And there's that thing around, oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna forgive my uncle for having molested me.
31:59
Tracy Cartwright: Well, when we do that, when we put ourselves in the role of, I'm going to forgive, there's a part of us that actually is trying to be bigger.
32:08
Tracy Cartwright: Because I'm going to be the big one and I'm going to forgive.
32:11
Tracy Cartwright: Whereas if we come to it from the angle of, I'm going to leave this with my uncle.
32:18
Tracy Cartwright: This is the, the guilt.
32:20
Tracy Cartwright: The grief, the shame, and the pain that I've carried for what he did to me.
32:27
Tracy Cartwright: And I'm gonna leave this with my uncle.
32:29
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
32:29
Tracy Cartwright: Because it belongs to him.
32:31
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
32:31
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
32:32
Tracy Cartwright: Then there's a difference in that.
32:34
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
32:34
Freya Pauline Cartwright: And
32:34
Tracy Cartwright: that vibration and that frequency of all changes
32:36
Freya Pauline Cartwright: it
32:37
Tracy Cartwright: because it's acknowledging what is, we can't change that, we don't need for them to, to be able to say, oh, all is well, da da.
32:44
Tracy Cartwright: That's, that's often just our humanness needing that.
32:47
Tracy Cartwright: Mm. We have to find our strength and taking back what is ours and leaving, leaving with them what the most did there.
32:54
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
32:55
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
32:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
32:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I find myself saying that to multitudes of people because I learned it all from Tracy.
33:02
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I just say to them, well, you know, take back what's yours, but leave it with them.
33:08
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Like I was saying to my friend yesterday, it belongs with them.
33:11
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
33:11
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's not yours.
33:13
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
33:14
Tracy Cartwright: Gosh, imagine if we all taught our kids that,
33:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): oh, well, I'm taught, I'm teaching mine that.
33:18
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
33:18
Tracy Cartwright: And our grandchildren,
33:20
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yay, yay, yay.
33:21
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yes.
33:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
33:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yes.
33:23
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yes, we can.
33:24
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Now I'm a grandmother.
33:25
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
33:27
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, because they, they're pure little vessels born into this world.
33:32
Tracy Cartwright: It's interesting too, I think when I, when I share with my kids, sometimes I don't think that they're listening or they're, I'm not quite getting it.
33:40
Tracy Cartwright: And then.
33:42
Tracy Cartwright: Occasionally a little pearl of wisdom comes out, or I hear them saying something to someone else, or they'll say to me, oh, I remember when you told me this.
33:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
33:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright: And I'm like,
33:52
Tracy Cartwright: oh, okay.
33:53
Tracy Cartwright: So some of that wisdom is
33:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
33:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
33:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Is uh, yeah.
33:57
Tracy Cartwright: Infusing into them.
33:58
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's actually, it's, it's quite a thrill mm-hmm.
34:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): When you hear it coming outta your babe's mouth.
34:03
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah,
34:04
Tracy Cartwright: absolutely.
34:05
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
34:06
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And they actually listen sometimes, even though they don't appear to be.
34:09
Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
34:10
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
34:10
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): No, it's, it's really lovely.
34:12
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
34:12
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So if
34:13
Tracy Cartwright: someone wants to get a hold of you, Gary, where, what you are heading overseas soon?
34:18
Tracy Cartwright: So, uh,
34:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah, early July, um, heading over to the UK for two months and then onto Europe for another month and a half.
34:27
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They can get hold of me through, um, my Facebook site, which is Freya Pauline Cartright.
34:35
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's probably the easiest way.
34:36
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): 'cause then I can link up from there.
34:38
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
34:39
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
34:40
Tracy Cartwright: Maybe they have some information to share or, yeah,
34:42
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah.
34:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
34:43
Tracy Cartwright: There's a, there's a. A connection.
34:46
Tracy Cartwright: There's a calling there and maybe there's some wisdom that you have to share with them as well.
34:50
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Absolutely.
34:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): A friend contacted me today and said she lives in Nottingham.
34:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
34:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Which is next to Sherwood Forest.
34:58
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh, yeah.
34:58
Tracy Cartwright: Where Robin Hood was, right?
35:00
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
35:00
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
35:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Well, no, he's a fictional character, but yeah,
35:03
Tracy Cartwright: we've got Robin in the hood somewhere.
35:05
Tracy Cartwright: Where is he?
35:05
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, we've got Robin here.
35:07
Tracy Cartwright: Robin the cat.
35:07
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, but the highway men did go through Sherwood Forest.
35:11
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It was the main road north and she wants to come and connect with us at Sherwood Forest.
35:17
Tracy Cartwright: Nice.
35:17
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
35:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So I've been called to go to she Sherwood Forest.
35:20
Tracy Cartwright: All the doors are opening, eh?
35:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): That's so cool.
35:23
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And the people are coming.
35:24
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
35:25
Tracy Cartwright: But you're here in up until then.
35:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
35:28
Tracy Cartwright: Um, yeah.
35:29
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
35:29
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So I'm just on a bit of a pilgrimage, uh, I'm calling it a pre-pro pilgrimage connecting with Tane Mata in WaPo Forest in Northland.
35:39
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So for those
35:40
Tracy Cartwright: who dunno who Tan Mata is,
35:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): okay.
35:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): He is the tallest.
35:46
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I would say the widest is, girth is huge.
35:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I think it's 11 meters or something like that from memory.
35:55
Tracy Cartwright: Don't ask me.
35:56
Tracy Cartwright: Um, it's just really big
35:58
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): curry tree.
35:59
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So Carrie is our native cur in New Zealand.
36:03
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): There are different curs throughout the.
36:06
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Pacific, but our, our car car is called Agathas Australia, which is a New Zealand curry and it is our iconic tree.
36:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
36:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Our most iconic tree for New Zealand, like you see the kiwi being the bird and then the carri tree, which is, it's a tall, has a tall trunk and a clean trunk.
36:29
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And a big canopy at the top.
36:31
Tracy Cartwright: And we're not allowed to cut down kie trees
36:34
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): anymore.
36:34
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): No,
36:34
Tracy Cartwright: they're sacred.
36:35
Tracy Cartwright: They're very sacred.
36:35
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
36:35
Tracy Cartwright: That the settlers did a lot of culling of the kie and Yes.
36:38
Tracy Cartwright: 'cause it has the most beautiful, my family.
36:40
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
36:42
Tracy Cartwright: Most of us have most of somewhere in the line milling families.
36:45
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
36:46
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
36:47
Tracy Cartwright: Some of our ancestors were coming in there, but that has the most honey.
36:51
Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
36:51
Tracy Cartwright: Honey.
36:52
Tracy Cartwright: Honey colored wood.
36:53
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
36:54
Tracy Cartwright: Um, but there's an energy to it that is, even though it has been cut down, it still has the most potent, powerful energy to it.
37:01
Tracy Cartwright: Oh
37:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah.
37:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, it does.
37:02
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And smell.
37:03
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The smell of wood's, amazing.
37:05
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Smell of the wood just takes me in a different place.
37:08
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The gum.
37:09
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The gum on the tree as well is incredible.
37:11
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's the most honey colored clear gum.
37:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
37:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And the smell when you rub that gum.
37:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
37:19
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh, it's just, it's sensuous.
37:21
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's delicious.
37:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Sensuous trees are sensuous,
37:25
Tracy Cartwright: so I look forward to hearing what, maybe you're gonna share that on your page.
37:29
Tracy Cartwright: I don't know what T MATA has to say to you.
37:30
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah,
37:31
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah, yeah.
37:31
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I will be, yeah, I'll be on my page because I'll be doing a, a video there.
37:36
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I've been called to heal.
37:39
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Him and heal myself.
37:41
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So there'll be a duality of our healing.
37:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We'll be giving energy to each other.
37:46
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Nice.
37:46
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
37:47
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And I'm hoping to sneak in my singing bowls and, and wands and things.
37:54
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
37:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
37:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So watch the space.
37:57
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'll be coming in from T Mata, and then I'm called also to go down to Castle Hill near Christchurch in the south island of New Zealand.
38:07
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Castle Hill has significant rocks mm-hmm.
38:10
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): On the lay lines that have been linked up to the pyramids of Egypt as well.
38:17
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Wow.
38:17
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
38:18
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): So there's a big calling going on.
38:21
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
38:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): But mainly it's, for me, it's, it's that.
38:25
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Linking of the Southern Hemisphere to the Northern Hemisphere.
38:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
38:29
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, and connecting our, our lay lines, our grid work to the northern hemisphere because as you said before, um, Tracy, that we were all, a lot of us were immigrated here.
38:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): A lot of us were disposed of here as we were cleared out of, that's an
38:49
Tracy Cartwright: interesting word.
38:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
38:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
38:52
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Disposed of.
38:53
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, because they sent us out here.
38:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): A lot of them didn't survive on the ships.
39:00
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They were cleared out of,
39:02
Tracy Cartwright: yeah.
39:02
Tracy Cartwright: I'll just find that word really interesting.
39:04
Tracy Cartwright: Okay.
39:04
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It came to me, I dunno why, but it came to me.
39:06
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It was like disposal disposed
39:08
Tracy Cartwright: of
39:08
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Well, they got rid of us because they, they, they couldn't feed us anymore.
39:13
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
39:13
Tracy Cartwright: So I would think that that would
39:15
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): displaced.
39:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
39:17
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Displaced, but Alon didn't survive.
39:21
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's funny that who given
39:22
Tracy Cartwright: such a reaction to stuff?
39:24
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
39:24
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Okay.
39:25
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Well, they cleared us, like my family, my, my Nana's family, the whole village was all collected up and shipped out.
39:33
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Okay.
39:34
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): On, on a, shipped to from, and they were shipped out to Newcastle, Australia.
39:40
Tracy Cartwright: Oh, that's where they were disposed of.
39:41
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, Australia, of course.
39:42
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Right.
39:42
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Australia.
39:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And you get it right.
39:44
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It doesn't feel quite right for, no, Australia was a big disposal place because that's where the convicts went and Yeah.
39:51
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And all the land clearances.
39:53
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I was gonna
39:54
Tracy Cartwright: say that before and I was like, no,
39:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): they all went to Australia first.
39:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): That
39:56
Tracy Cartwright: feels more like an energy.
39:58
Tracy Cartwright: 'cause they sent the convicts there.
39:59
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
40:01
Tracy Cartwright: Was we were still new.
40:03
Tracy Cartwright: Well, it was new.
40:04
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
40:04
Tracy Cartwright: But it was also more of a, a new beginnings link.
40:08
Tracy Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
40:08
Tracy Cartwright: Wasn't it?
40:09
Tracy Cartwright: Whereas Australia.
40:10
Tracy Cartwright: Maybe have more of that.
40:12
Tracy Cartwright: Disposal.
40:12
Tracy Cartwright: Disposal.
40:13
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
40:13
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And
40:13
Tracy Cartwright: do that.
40:13
Tracy Cartwright: They're still working through a big time there.
40:15
Tracy Cartwright: Yes,
40:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yes they are.
40:16
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah,
40:17
Tracy Cartwright: I'm sure.
40:18
Tracy Cartwright: And there was a lot of convicts that actually once said that.
40:20
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
40:21
Tracy Cartwright: Once, once they were freed.
40:22
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
40:23
Tracy Cartwright: Or pardoned of their
40:25
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
40:25
Tracy Cartwright: Sins for stealing their life of bread to feed their family or whatever happened then a lot of them did make their way to New Zealand for the free land.
40:32
Tracy Cartwright: Right.
40:33
Tracy Cartwright: They did.
40:33
Tracy Cartwright: Is that how your family got here?
40:35
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um.
40:36
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, they, um, they were cleared out for the grand clearances they call 'em from, mainly from Scotland.
40:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, and a lot of them came from Ireland to Scotland through the potato famine.
40:46
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
40:47
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Which my Nana's family did.
40:49
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And my mother, some of my mother's family line also got.
40:54
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Displaced, displaced, displaced, disposed of in Newcastle, Australia.
41:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And Newcastle Australia was a big port in those days.
41:04
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
41:04
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, more so than Sydney Harbor.
41:08
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, um, that's where a lot of them ended up.
41:11
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And, and in fact, in Newcastle there's a suburb called Cowen, where my family, that was their name, Cowen.
41:19
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh wow.
41:20
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And there's pigs.
41:22
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And Newcastle.
41:23
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Their pharmacists.
41:24
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
41:25
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And um, they, some of them stayed and, but some of them went on to New Zealand 'cause they heard.
41:31
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): About eight or 8-year-old.
41:34
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Eight, or they heard about New Zealand being, you know, this, all this land that they could clear and farm, that the soil was fertile and the climate was temperate
41:45
Tracy Cartwright: and there was no snakes and there was no snakes, no big spiders and spiders and things, alligators.
41:50
Tracy Cartwright: Well, there was some things at Jeju, but they were
41:54
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): elegant.
41:54
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It was a
41:54
Tracy Cartwright: different story,
41:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): but yeah.
41:56
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, also it was hot.
41:58
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I remember my nana saying,'cause her parents.
42:01
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Were born in Scotland and she said they found it too hot in Newcastle Australia coming from,
42:08
Tracy Cartwright: well, they did
42:09
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): the Highland
42:09
Tracy Cartwright: Scots.
42:10
Tracy Cartwright: Apparently.
42:10
Tracy Cartwright: My, uh, 'cause I know my mum's mum arrived here when she was 11 and they came on the boat and they had all their winter clothes on.
42:20
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Mm-hmm.
42:20
Freya Pauline Cartwright: And
42:21
Tracy Cartwright: they arrived in the New Zealand summer.
42:23
Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
42:23
Tracy Cartwright: And they, yeah, they were, she was roasting.
42:28
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
42:29
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They hadn't climatized and they, their blood was boiling.
42:32
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We used to say that when we were kids.
42:34
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh, my blood blood's boiling because I still struggle with the heat, you know, even now, um, after I.
42:38
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Five generations in New Zealand.
42:43
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'm still struggle with the heat.
42:45
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): That's interesting.
42:46
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Hey,
42:46
Tracy Cartwright: there's a constellation in that.
42:48
Tracy Cartwright: There
42:49
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): probably is.
42:49
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
42:50
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It used to make, that used to make me laugh about Tracy.
42:52
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): She'd always say, oh, there's a constellation in that.
42:55
Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
42:55
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I didn't
42:56
Tracy Cartwright: say it as often as I used to
42:57
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): a family joke.
42:57
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It was, yeah, it's a constellation because I'd say to my son, oh, there's Constellation in that.
43:03
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): We better talk to Tracy.
43:06
Tracy Cartwright: Let's get Constellated.
43:07
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, let's get constellated.
43:09
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I like that.
43:10
Tracy Cartwright: But yeah, that's not to be mixed up with
43:13
Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): No.
43:13
Tracy Cartwright: The other, that sounds similar.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): No, there's, there's so much that you can unpack.
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Tracy Cartwright: Mm.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Even through that being.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Displaced.
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Tracy Cartwright: Disposed of,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): disposed of in another country.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): You know, there's so much I how
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Tracy Cartwright: words can be, have so much energy, right?
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Tracy Cartwright: Oh yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Well, even it's energy and vibration and frequency, isn't it?
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Tracy Cartwright: But that word just was like,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah, disposed.
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Tracy Cartwright: Interesting.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Well, they got rid of, they, they got rid of us.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): 'cause we were the trash, you know, we were the people.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They couldn't feed.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They got rid of us.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They shipped us out on the, on the ship, shoved everybody in the ship.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): As many as they could get in the ship.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Didn't care if they lived or die.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It was.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Nobles, it wasn't their problem anymore.
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Tracy Cartwright: And interesting.
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Tracy Cartwright: 'cause you're going back there.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): That's
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Tracy Cartwright: So how, how does that feel?
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Tracy Cartwright: 'cause I can feel that rising up in you.
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Tracy Cartwright: Oh, big.
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Tracy Cartwright: Is it okay if we do talk about this?
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: No, it's huge.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's huge because this is part of my calling is, is to reconnect my family lineage back to the uk, the full circle.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And my son felt conscious.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Felt, yeah, consciously my, my son felt when he first landed in the uk and I've been told I'm gonna really feel it as soon as I put my feet on the ground.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm. It's gonna be huge.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I know it is.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'll probably be ringing up.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Tracy, go.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Hey, can we do Constellation?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Please?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): There'll be something in it.
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Tracy Cartwright: The pain of the ancestors that we are disposed of.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Is in some way hugely traumatic and obviously very traumatizing for them.
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Tracy Cartwright: But on the other side of it, it's a huge gift because if that hadn't happened, you wouldn't have had the, the distinct.
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Tracy Cartwright: Honor of being born in.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: And having the lived the life that you've lived.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Exactly.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Being
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Tracy Cartwright: who you are right now.
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Tracy Cartwright: So in constellations, we acknowledge what is.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Mm-hmm.
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Tracy Cartwright: And when we can take that in.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: We can find peace.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah, definitely.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'm grateful for them.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Being disposed here Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): In Australia and then coming here.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'm really grateful that they, and maybe
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Tracy Cartwright: one or two of them is still sitting a little bit rattled, but
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Finding that, uh, honoring, acknowledging and, yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And they had the, they had the drive to survive
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Tracy Cartwright: mm-hmm.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): As well.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): The determination to survive all of that.
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Tracy Cartwright: I imagine that the, the journeys out on the boats were not.
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Tracy Cartwright: Kind.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): No, no.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): There'd be a lot of sickness and probably not a lot of food because there wasn't a lot of food.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): That's why they were sent away.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): They were all starving anyway, and a lot of those were the Irish that were just exposed to Scotland.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: Or
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): some of them chose to go there for work, but a lot of them were cleared out of Ireland into Scotland and then moved on again, and my family were, were those people I.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): It's interesting.
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Tracy Cartwright: Well, I look forward to it.
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Tracy Cartwright: We'll love to have you back so you can share with us.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yes,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): I'd love that.
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Tracy Cartwright: Um,
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): yeah,
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Tracy Cartwright: your adventures and what happened and, and yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Chapter two.
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Tracy Cartwright: Chapter two.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Hey, AMI, I'd love that.
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Tracy Cartwright: This is ma. Oh, you can't see Mona here.
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Tracy Cartwright: Was sitting up here before.
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Tracy Cartwright: I've got my vision of Monique here.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Can you see this?
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Tracy Cartwright: For those who can see the video, the recording, I always have teddy bears to, um, to work with my clients.
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Tracy Cartwright: So this is Vy who's on my shoulder.
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Tracy Cartwright: And this is, um, G Man.
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Tracy Cartwright: So he's got a GS foot who looks very much alike.
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Tracy Cartwright: One of me who's cuddled up here to pull this, looks
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): like Lacey
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Tracy Cartwright: does a little bit, eh, who's snoring over there in the corner, by the way, Lacey's my, um, fur baby, one of them
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): ginger and white.
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Tracy Cartwright: Actually Lacey's Strawberry Blonde.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Oh, strawberry Blonde.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): You're right.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Ginger undertones.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: We'll roll with Strawberry Blonde.
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Tracy Cartwright: Hey Lace.
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Tracy Cartwright: Well, it's been great to chat with you here and thank
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: you.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah, thank you for having
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Freya Pauline Cartwright: me
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Tracy Cartwright: at this moment.
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Tracy Cartwright: Uh.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: To laugh and to share and to, um, test out my new microphone, so that's really cool as well.
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Tracy Cartwright: Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: We'll, uh, we'll see how much we've interfered with our arms waving around and Yeah, I think I did before, um, a little bit of tapping of our chest.
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Tracy Cartwright: Mm. Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: Is there anything that you'd like to share before we leave here?
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Um, yeah, if you feel called today or tomorrow or next week or whenever.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Go and acknowledge a, a tree that calls you, find a tree that that makes your heart sing.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Go to that tree, spend some time with it and hug it.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): You can lean on it, but yeah, just spend some time with that tree and connect with that tree.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): You never know what it might say to you.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Be open.
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Tracy Cartwright: Mm.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Tracy Cartwright: What gifts it might have to share.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Exactly.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Yeah.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): Trees need us.
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Tracy Cartwright: We need them.
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Freya Pauline Cartwright (2): And we need them.
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Tracy Cartwright: Absolutely.
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Tracy Cartwright: Beautiful.
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Tracy Cartwright: Happy day everyone.
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