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Our Picks to Win Each NFL Division This Season · 4th & Tea | NFL UK Podcast

• 4th&Tea: you Liam: Welcome to another episode of Fourth and T. Jamie, we're back. Jamie: We're back. Liam, what are we doing today? Liam: So today we're just going to be covering all the divisions, who's going to be the winner, who's going to be the loser, and we're going to end the pod by picking a shared favourite team for like an extra team we're going to support through the season. I think as well, to save a bit of time, if we pick the same winner or loser. We don't need to go into a bit of a debate. We're both gonna turn that key. We're both in the safe house. We both love that pick. And probably Jamie: Yeah. Liam: everybody agrees with us anyway. So yeah. Jamie: Yeah, there's a few obvious ones. Liam: Few obvious ones few I think we're gonna argue a little bit, but yeah. So Jamie: I think so. Liam: where we where are we gonna start? Jamie: AFC East? We Liam: IFC Ace. Jamie: can't argue on AFC East, surely. Liam: I don't think we can. Who are you gonna st Jamie: Okay. Liam: who you gonna pick as your winner? Jamie: Bills. Easy. Liam: Bills. Okay, so I think we're at first turn the key. Jamie: Yep. Liam: You're gonna turn the key. Yep, turn the key. Cool. Bill's locked in winner, AFC East. This is where that first thing might come. I think Jets. Bottom of the pack. Jamie: I think dolphins bomb in the back. Liam: Okay, so we're both in your patriots second. Jamie: Yeah, Patriots second, they got a harder schedule probably sneak through wild cards Jets, Geno Liam: Yeah, like we'll see. Jamie: Smith Liam: Yeah, I mean, yeah, Patriots, wild card, and not wild cards. They've got better wide receivers, not wildcard. What I'm saying. Jamie: Well, no more booty. Liam: No more booty. That's fresh off the fresh off the press, but Jamie: Yeah. Liam: I still think they've got better receivers than last year overall. They should be but Jamie: Yeah, AJ Brown. Liam: you know, so I think yeah, AJ Brown, the Green Bay Packers wide receiver. Jamie: Doobz Big Ed Big At Doobz Guardian Hat Every time he comes on the screen you start laughing because big his head is Doobz Romeo? Romeo! Big R Big R Liam: How do you say it? Dubs? Dubs? I'm gonna say dubs. Dubs. Doobs big R, fine, big R. Okay, cool. What okay Jamie: Why, why jets for you, bottom? Liam: 'Cause it's the Jets. I love Gino Smith. I Jamie: do love jeno smith? got that seahorse yeah Liam: do like Gino Smith. I just don't know if it's gonna be good karma for him going back to the Jets. I just like the ca the chaos of the Jets until I see something else. Jamie: until you see an interception, then you're... Liam: Until I see a interception. They've got they got two in preseason, but I think at least two. But until I see something else, I'm not I'm not gonna be buying into anything jets. I just can't do it. Jamie: think dolphins are going to potentially do a nought winning season. Nothing. Liam: I see, I believe in Malik Willis a bit. I just think, can he just put up like 20 points in a game? Maybe. Maybe. Jamie: Yeah, but dolphins are going to concede what per game? Liam: But then I d what are Jamie: Bye. Liam: the Jets doing? We'll see. We'll see. So okay. I mean I Jamie: Yeah, but we know it's gonna be mean Jets and Dolphins we know in the playoffs Liam: No, I think we both agree on that. You know what? On this one, I'm gonna concede because I'm not I kinda do believe in the squad a little bit more on the Jets, but I just haven't seen them do it. Like, A Jamie: It's only because Gino Smith coming back. Yeah, well, no one else. Liam: Chan could just destroy a game. Malik, A Chan, who you who you stopping the run on? And then if any wide receivers come out of the woodwork, all of a sudden you're saying, if any, if any, but Jamie: Any of them. Liam: if any wide receivers come out of the woodwork, all of a sudden we're going what's going on here, you know? Whereas I don't Jamie: Yeah. Liam: know where that extra surprise is coming from with the Jets. Jamie: I don't know who Gina is going to throw it to. That's it. Liam: The ball, Bristol. You don't what you don't know who Gina's gonna run it throw it to? What Garrett Wilson? Jamie: Yeah, yeah, he hasn't done. mean, Gino didn't throw the Liam: I know what you mean. Jamie: ball very well last season, even though he Liam: so but yeah. So again, we haven't seen it. Gino in a jet uniform, we haven't seen it. But okay, who Jamie: Yeah. Liam: we pick it? Who we pick Jamie: I'm still, I'm still, Bill's obviously winning, losers, both. Liam: Yeah, no, I've al I've already said I'm gonna come on board with you. Let's just go dolphins but yeah, that's what I'm saying. Sorry, I already said I conceded to you. Jamie: Okay nice. Perfect. Yeah. Liam: First putting it on that first full pod feature, I've conceded to you. Weak Jamie: Love it. Liam: start from me, weaker start from Miami. Fine. Cool. Jamie: Perfect, right, AFC North, what you got? Liam: AFC North for winner? Jamie: Yeah. Liam: My AFC North winner. Spoiler alert for later in the pod. The Ravens. Jamie: I've also got the Ravens. We've Liam: we're turning the key. And we turn that's what that is, the turning the key. Jamie: got the Ravens on lock. Liam: I like it. D'y what? Just love it Lamar. I can't doubt Lamar. I just love Lamar. Jamie: Yeah, yeah. You guaranteed what? 11 wins a season, probably. It's probably there or there about. Liam: Hopefully. Do you know what Derek's still got it? Derek Henry's still gonna he's still gonna run him in. I like it. They they try they tried to get a couple of wide receivers getting a little bit of buzz in camp. You know, Lane, mad hands, Sara great, great college career. So we'll see. I think Zay Flowers, you know, I think he gets more heat because he's not amazing in fantasy rather than not a good receiver. He's just not a red zone receiver. Jamie: regular season puts up lots of numbers you see it's great post-season but I still got number one so like you know we've to yeah agreed again and Liam: Mm. That's because it's a famous play. Anyway, we've turned the key. We've turned the key. Cool. Jamie: surely we've got we've got to agree on the bottom rounds Liam: Man, I just it's our first year on the pod. I don't want to talk about the Browns very much. And I think we can either my gosh. Jamie: That was right, the Sean Watson. Liam: Let's not and we're not even gonna focus on it. We're turning the key. Browns are on the bottom. So Jamie: Yeah. Locked. Liam: cool. Who'd got second? I've got the I'm gonna go Jamie: got stealers back Joe what the f- Liam: I was gonna go Bengals. Cause I wanted to I wanted to pick Ben Bengals as the winners. I just can't buy in. Until I see sexy Dexie Jamie: No... Yeah... Liam: messing up people's defenses, offences, Boy Maffe rushing someone, causing some actual problem. I can't buy in. Jamie: Nah, what it was for me straight away, first play pre-season, Joe Burrows sacked. Fantastic. That's it. Straight away I'm but then Rodgers last season. Liam: Yeah, ex bad vibes. Really bad vibes. Yeah. And he's basically said and he's basically said if we don't win this year, he c he kinda wants to go, I think. He couldn't get trade. That could be mad. Okay, so th yeah, Steelers imagine. Yeah. So cool. Ravens top. Browns boo at the bottom. So cool. Next division. AFC South. Yeah. Jamie: I FC South. I think this is definitely some, are definitely, definitely going to disagree. think it be, you know, winners Texans. Liam: Winners You're saying Texans. Jamie: Yeah, who's in Seixens? Liam: like that. But I'm not picking them. Look, I've even chucked you. Jamie: Really? okay. You have me there. Liam: I teed you up just to knock it out the park. No, Jamie: Yeah, yeah. Liam: I'm going with the Jags. Going with the Jags. I just think Jamie: based off. Liam: as a full squad, the Jags are like very good, very well rounded, not much of a weakness. You're not looking at many parts of the Jags saying, man, that needs fixing. I just think they're not. I just think people are struggling to say that's a special running back room. That's a special wide receiver room. That's a special quarterback. That's a special defense. However, I think, you know, would you be upset with any of those rooms? If that was onto a team that you liked, the quarterback, the wide receiver room, the defense, you know, the offensive line, if you had any of that subbed into unless you're a star one of those, I think that's a good team. Like If CJ Stroud has a bit of a if he has a bit of a bad day, what's happening with the Texans? Jamie: Well, I mean their defense though. Liam: No, agre look that is like an elite unit. Like that is special. Jamie: Yeah, I mean, he threw five interceptions and they were still in the game. Liam: Yeah. But to me, what my point is the Jags, I'm not looking at anything. Jamie: on all rhythms. Liam: I'm not looking at anything the Jags saying, I'm worried, but I'm looking at the Texan saying, Show me something on offense. Jamie: would concede but I've actually got the jacks third so I can't even concede to be like let me just stop in Liam: Over who who you got second? Jamie: cults Liam: You got Colt second. Okay, well, Jamie: yeah Liam: let's flip to the bottom. Jamie: yeah titans but you know what i actually think the titans could do some cannon wall decent three three thousand two hundred passing yards last week Liam: See, let's debate this one. I've got the Colts at the bottom and I've got Jamie: Really? Liam: the Titans third. Yeah, who's Jamie: You know, it's the Liam: who's catching passes? Right. Who is catching passes for the Colts? Jamie: P-big piss. Liam: Injured. Jamie: the most overpaid WR2 ever. Yeah. Liam: Yeah, well, injured though. Well I think he's the number one because he's the number one. They've paid a number two to be a number one. You know, Pittman's gone. He's gone Steelers. Jamie: Yeah, Steelers. I will say it is Colts like, it's their all or nothing. So all or nothing Liam: Josh Downs? Look it Jamie: season. Liam: yeah, all or nothing, who's catching passes? Warren's a bit injured now. Jamie: Yeah. Liam: Thank you. Jonathan Taylor, love him. we're just jump gonna jump back into about the capach curses for the Colts. So yeah. No one's catching passes for the Colts. If Warren's injured, Jamie: No, Liam: if Warren's injured, if Pierce is out, so Josh who you get Josh Downs and they've just signed Keenan Allen. Jamie: You can run it in himself. Big Dan Jones. Liam: Who gets injured every season? I like Dan. I like I like I like Danny Dimes. But Jamie: Yeah. Liam: who's running in? The Titans again. I need to see it, but I still feel like I need to see it with this version of the Colts team. The only thing the only thing is Jonathan Jamie: We saw it for nine weeks. Liam: Taylor, but I'm kind of buying some bits of the Titans. Cam Ward might step up. Not at the minute. He's looking, but you know, if he looks all right, they've got some receivers. Wandell, Tate, they've got, you know, running back, Tony Pollard. Taji Spears, underrated a little bit, you know. Brian Dayball, I think he can just buy some cheap yards, get a bit of a gimmick system going. Gimmick's a a rough word for an NFL offensive coach who was a head coach and Jamie: Yeah. Liam: is a quarterback guru. Whatever. Let's see. As far as I understand, he is still running the same plays he was running from three years ago. But guess what? That has worked. And also, it's Jamie: somehow. Liam: got to go up for the Titans. And I like the new I like the new uniforms. Jamie: That's the number one, it's like, above everything, they're going to look good next season. Liam: They're gonna look better. And they got I think they've got the new stadium, haven't they? But who knows? I probably could look it up, but I'm just gonna shoot from the hip. Jamie: Who cares? So Liam: Yeah. Jamie: we got, you're going, do I can say. Liam: Bottom bottom I'm going cults Jamie: I'm cold. Liam: not Titans. Jamie: I can't even say, because we just got different orders for every single team. Liam: Yeah, we do. Jamie: Alright, let's move on, that's great. The Liam: Gotta make that hard decision. Jamie: thing is, I can see a scenario where the Jags win it. So I'll let you, I'll let you have. Liam: So we're gonna pin in, pin in, not lock in. So we're gonna pin in the jags. Woo. Jamie: Yeah. Devin Lloyd is a massive miss though in that defense that you got. Liam: He is. Jamie: That's my only thing for the Jags. Liam: Yeah, but Trev, big Trevor Lawrence, the the giant human horse baby, he Jamie: Yeah. Liam: after the bye I think it was, and when they sh and when they signed Myers, the receiver, they Jamie: yeah. Liam: didn't get defeated until they got knocked out of the playoffs. Jamie: and they should have paid the bills as well. Liam: Yeah, like that's insane. Brian Thomas might step up. Back up. Right? Brian Thomas Jr. might step back up. Hunter Henry might Jamie: Yeah. And their kicker, Liam: do more. Jamie: their kicker could kick a field goal from 70 yards. 71. Yeah. Little. Kick it big. Liam: Mate, he did it last pre season. Little. Little. L little kicking big. So yeah, mate. Also, with the UK. We've got to love ourselves a bit of jack. I I know it shouldn't affect me, but I actually quite like the fact that they come here a bit. Jamie: here okay i'll go jacks we can pay Liam: Okay. Jamie: and jacks number one Liam: AFC South jugs winners for fourth and T. Jamie: Yeah, and bottom, I can see the cults exploding. Liam: Okay, coal to the bottom then. We're gonna pin that one as well. So Jamie: the button. Yeah. Liam: s and AFC South, we're pinning. Cool. Next division. Jamie: Yeah, I'll let you have those. AFC West. I think this is right. This could be the most fascinating division, You've got obviously Broncos, won the, yeah, Liam: Mm-hmm. Jamie: what a team. What a team. Lots of wins last season. Bo Nix. We don't know. Liam: Yeah. Well rounded team. Mm-hmm. Jamie: We don't know what he's like. His legs look really weirdly different. Obviously he'd come off the injury. Liam: Is he bow legged? Yeah. Jamie: Obviously the Chiefs, my home's come off another injury. Travis Liam: Mm. Jamie: Kelsey probably last season. Liam: Yeah. Jamie: Chargers look good. Liam: Hards look good. Jamie: They look good on everywhere apart from receivers, but Quinton Johnson, Liam: Center got injured. Jamie: Santas got injured. The O-line's horrific. Liam: Sort of great meme the first time a Chargers offensive lineman's blocked anybody. They blocked him onto the legs of their centre and they've put him out for the season. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Okay, and then Jamie: Alpha whole entire season. That's the most childish thing ever though, isn't it? It's just what they do. Liam: so I feel like you're missing the team. The Raiders. You're not intro in them. Jamie: yeah, they're bot. Raid is a bot. Liam: Okay, are we gonna be locking it in? Jamie: Locked in. Liam: Raiders at the bottom, we don't have to say much. And now Jen is injured Jamie: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you've seen on, what went viral across Twitter and Instagram and TikTok the other day, it someone picked from the number one pick in their fantasy draft. Someone picked Gentie. And now. Yeah. He went up and pinned the name. Yeah. And he's going over nothing. Yeah. Liam: I saw in a ri in a com they booked a conference room, haven't they? Yeah. And he's like pinned it on the boards. He's gone big and he's going home already. You know what they say? In the first round, you can't really lo you can't really win a draft in the first round first few rounds, but you can lose it with the numb the number one pig. That's a big play. Gosh. But yeah. Jamie: You can't lose them. Number one. When Béjon's on the board. Liam: Bij I'm Bijan. I'm Bijan B Bijan. I'm Bijan Bijan. Dijon Bijjon Bijon's Dijon. I'm Bijon Robinson Jamie: Good mustard. Yeah. Liam: one point zero one. Jamie: he is the, yeah. Deepic. Yeah. Yeah, No. Liam: I didn't realise you was the s I didn't realise we felt the same way about that. Everyone loves Gibbs, but I do love Gibbs. To be fair, you know what the thing about Gibbs is the schedule. It's the schedule. Jamie: Good. Top three. Top three easy pick Liam: I think they've got a top three easiest schedule, if not the easiest schedule, the Lions. Anyway, sorry, back to the R Division. Jamie: Yeah, but we'll get there. Sorry. Yeah, AFCWares Raiders, you made us talk about other teams. Raiders at bottom. Yeah, Mendo, Mendo's though, he's not gonna play. He'll see it most of the season. Yeah. Liam: We've locked the Raiders in the bottom. We had to talk about something, so we spoke about Bijan and Gibbs. He looked a couple of them passes look great. Okay. Top of the division. Jamie: charges. Mike but Daniel coming in. I do as well, but they do it every season. always think Liam: Nice. No, I like everything about the Chargers except. Jamie: like, maybe it's their year this season. Maybe it's their year this season. Herbert just got engaged. Do you know what mean? He's probably like high on life. He's coming in. Do what? Liam: Yeah. yeah. Q J Q J Quinton Johnson. Yeah. Can't catch Jamie: Windsor Johnston can't part, can't catch anything. Lad McConkey. Liam: Labakogi. I think Quinton Johnson's gonna be their he's gonna be fantasy wise. I think he's gonna be better than Ladd. Yeah. Hampton. Hampton? What do you mean? Yeah. Jamie: he has to be yeah laparconcumin missed in last season yeah i mean Liam: Vidal, they've got a w they've got a wild running back room. They've got three decent running backs. Mate, Gadston, the tight end. Gadston, the tight end's the third tight end. No, he's Jamie: If they don't all pop their ACLs. Yeah. Gaston's decent. Yeah. Liam: the third tight end. Jamie: Yeah. I think that's why I think it sounds like you're talking, you're talking yourself into it. Charge number one. Liam: Are you gonna ask me who I'm picking? Jamie: Yeah, who you got? Liam: I've got Broncos So if we had a if we have a Jamie: I've got Bronco's third. Liam: horse noise, let's cue it up and use that. Nee! Cool. Then you know why? Jamie: I think... Liam: Look at that defense. Mate, probably the second best defense. Yeah, probably the second Jamie: Yeah, same thing for the Texans. You say the thing about Texans? Liam: yeah, yeah, but probably the second best defense. But guess what? That attack, the offense is getting better. Mate, what mate? They've been there and done it. They did it last year. I know maybe a bit of a funny year. Jamie: Yeah, but they trailed in 15 games. Yes, they won them. They can't get that lucky again. Liam: Yeah, but what I'm saying is they've improved. Jamie: So what's he saying? They won't try out in games now. They're just going to win them all. Liam: Or even if they do, they're more likely to come back. Cool. Right. So w Jamie: you Liam: are we are we gonna bin the Chiefs off for this one? So we're we're Jamie: Yeah, I just can't write. can't. yeah. Liam: I think we need to see Mahomes back and I think we need to see new weapons working well. Jamie: I can't just, like Kelsey just fell off a cliff as well last season. He's clearly at the end of his great career. it's like, yeah. Unbelievable. Liam: He's getting there, yeah. What a player, but he's getting there. I did see the s the slowest juke in the world and he stepped someone and it didn't even look slow, but you know, we're just gonna start saying these things now. Jamie: Yeah, it just looks like so you see his age and where he's at now. Okay, come on Liam: Yeah. So cool. Chiefs know. You know what? Let's roll with the Chargers. Let's roll with the Chargers. Let's roll with the Chargers. I don't mind. Let's roll with the Chargers. Jamie: I think it is a toss up. is a toss up. no. Whoop in that one in. Liam: Pin the charges in, lock in the radius at the bot at the bottom. Okay. Jamie: locked in. yeah, yeah. Liam: Right. One division done. Jamie: Yeah, NFC East. Liam: NFC East. Jamie: I've got feeling you I've got right I'm gonna try and predict yours right okay you're gonna go Cowboys top because they were receiving room and then commander's bottom Liam: One out of two correct. Jamie: Now, commanders got me bottom, surely. Liam: Yeah. Jamie: Yeah, okay. All right. I have the eagle's top, by the way. Liam: I have the Eagles top. So okay, so luck it in, double luck. So Washington, there's just not enough there. Injuries, Jamie: I don't know what's happened to him. Liam: it's a bit lackluster. We don't have to talk about Jamie: but you Liam: it too much, but you know, I mean Jamie: What happened from that game of the Lions where they could play every single down and they're gonna find a way, Jaden Daniels gonna find a way to convert on fourth down, something like that. I hope so. Liam: Hayden Daniels. I think he's gonna come back. I think he's gonna he didn't have a bad year, but I think he's gonna come closer to what he was first year. But Jamie: Yeah. Liam: again, they just need a little bit more running mates with him. I'm like, he just needs to be part of a more dynamic offense Jamie: He needs more around him. Liam: overall. Like he just needs more. Otherwise, I'm buying in. Yeah, Terry's good. Luke Luke. Yeah. Jamie: Yeah, Terry McLaren's great, but then McCaffrey, they got McCaffrey as well. Other McCaffrey. Yeah. That's about it. We just listed the only weapons. Liam: I just pushed Mark. No, they've just signed another they've just got a wide receiver too. But I can't Jamie: Ooh, who else they got? Liam: I can't remember who it is. But it's bad that we have to even think about it. Jamie: Well that's how bad, like, it didn't make the news to me and I've got every single team on notification on my phone. Liam: Right. Who's on their depth chart? Jamie: Stefan Diggs. Yeah, they're We don't even have to edit this out. Liam: It's yeah. I mean he is someone. Jamie: I mean, he made the Super Bowl last season. Liam: No. I mean they've got yeah, they've got Crosky Merritt and Richard White. I mean Richard White's an okay r running back two. Jamie: We shot him on it. Yeah. Liam: Is Crosky Merritt a wide receiver one? I a running back one? Not certain. Jamie: A concho tightened. Liam: It's middling. Let's just agree to it. We've locked it in. We're moving on. Yeah. The Giants, Jamie: But that's it. Yeah, they're miles, I mean, their defence as well. Liam: and I think the Giants are a little bit exciting, even though I I want to see more from them. I'm a bit more excited about them than Washington. So for me, they're number three. You know, Jamie: I... yeah, then... yeah. Liam: we don't lock in number threes, but guess what? I'm locking them into number three. Yeah, I mean Jay Jamie: We've locked in every single bit. We already know it would like... Liam: our esteemed friend James, who will sometimes occasionally appear on the pod, Jamie: Yeah. Liam: he would hate us for this, but whatever. Jamie: Yeah, but what proof has he got that they got nothing? No, exactly. Liam: He's got no proof. Exactly. And guess what? He's not here today and he won't be for a while. And we're locking it in. Okay. I think you know what? Eagles, I think the Eagles are gonna look a little bit like with Devon with Devontae Smith, they're gonna run something that looks a little bit, little bit, little bit like the Seahawks offense last year. Where they just move him around. I think they're gonna deploy their one man band. And it's gonna be like, you know what? He they're gonna find a weakness and then they're gonna pull the trigger. They're gonna have a run game. Saquon's gonna be good. And then the defense is there. I think there's some like you know, it's gonna fall off in the next couple of years just because of age. But like this year, I'm buying. I'm buying Jamie: Yeah. Yeah. Liam: and I'm locking in. And I think we're locking in. So yeah. Jamie: We are locking him. Is it First Division we've got absolutely spot on? think it might be. First and last, I think. NFC North. Liam: First first double locker. First and probably last, yeah. Cool. Where's next? NFC North. I'm gonna predict you for Jamie: Okay. Liam: the winner. Jamie: Yeah. Liam: Lions. Jamie: You actually know me, I love the lions. Okay. Liam: I love the lions. gonna what we're gonna do. Lock that up. Cool. Lions, we've locked it in. Jamie: It's an interesting one though because if their roster can just stay healthy the whole entire season, they'll probably, Liam: Yeah. Jamie: be in the AMC Championship. Liam: Yeah. Jamie: That, like, that's where we're at. I think they've got one more year, really, to get it right this year. And that's it. I still, Liam: Agree. Jamie: I mean, Jared Goff is my only thing, but... Liam: But have you not seen it? I think he doesn't play outdoors until week thirteen. Jamie: Yeah. Liam: And then if he gets like if they get like a one seed, I think, you know what, and I think playing outdoors for him is more of a cold problem. I think I think I don't think it's like a well wind problem. But Jamie: No, yeah. Liam: so I think, you know. I think we're good. I think I think the line should be good. They could be like the number one seed. They've got like the easiest schedule. And they're playing indoors. Jamie: I think they could, yeah, I think they will be. Liam: They've got, you know, Gibbs is gonna be on fire. They've got J Mo, you know, they've who is my fantasy little I J Mo, Jamie: electric. Liam: I'm he's like I'm trying to get him. I'm shooting up a little bit to get James and Williams. yeah, sorry, also sorry, I'm Rasin Brown, not forgetting him, just to be clear, not forgetting Laporta. It's just the fact that I really am loving J Mo in fantasy, so Jamie: Why also you're reminding me earlier, Pacheco's there as well. So it's like a nice Liam: Hey. Jamie: little one, two punch might not be Montgomery, but still. Yeah. Liam: He's a bit injured, but like, let's see. And I think it's not gonna be a problem. As long as Gibbs can hold the load up. I don't think it's a problem. Jamie: Yeah, you'll be absolutely fine. Liam: So yeah. Okay then. N interesting that neither of us went bears. Because I think that Jamie: I don't rate the bears. Liam: I don't rate the bears. yeah. I mean, we're gonna do another episode down the line. We're gonna do Who's at the tea table? We haven't got a good name for it yet. Madhat's tea party, but our Jamie: or if I won. Yeah. Liam: ten favourite teas for the season, right? And I don't even think they make that for me. Okay, wow, aligned. We're gonna have to be able to diversify this podcast somehow. Jamie: I've put them third in this, in the NFC North. Liam: Mate, I've not, I've got them second. But that's more because I can't buy into the rest. So who you going for bottom? Jamie: I think they're horrific. Kyle Murray. If the fact is, if Kyle Murray Liam: You know. Jamie: comes in and wins the quarterback position straight away, there's something's clearly wrong. then get Jefferson. Liam: I like Nana, I like Kyla Murray. Jamie: I something's quite something's not right. Surely. Is there a new Call Duty game Liam: No, I love him. I love him. Jamie: coming out this season? Like you will be too busy. Liam: He's met his grand theft auto. Jamie: No one 17 they're gone. They're finished. Liam: But what I love about Kyler is just he could just revive them to some degree. Look, Sam Darnold was done, then went to the Vikings, is revived, then went to the Seahawks and won the Super Bowl. Was Jamie: Yeah, nice and fair point. Liam: San Darnold going to the Vikings better or worse vibes than Kyler Murray going to the Vikings? Jamie: are great that's what is worse Liam: I think he was worse vibes. Jamie: sound on as soon as someone got sound on do you think awful right okay Liam: yeah. And as a Super Bowl win. So you what, Kyla could just you know what? I don't know. But the reason for me why I'm agreeing with you is 'cause I think Jordan Love's good. I like Jordan Love. Jamie: That's why I've got him second. That's why I've got them second. There's something about him. He's got Liam: See, I've got them third. Jamie: a little bit a little bit of magic. To be fair, Caleb Williams did provide it as well. Understood. Yeah. Liam: Yeah, you know, I think they proved it a bit more last year. They've got weapons. I just think what's going on with the defense. I've had a couple of unfortunate injuries, so let's just see. We'll see what's happening. So yeah. Okay, right. We d are we double locked? Was we double locked? Hang on. Lyons and Vike. Double locked. my gosh. Right. Next division. Next. Jamie: Yeah. Lines and Vikings. Yeah. Locked in. Next NFC South, NFC South. Liam: C So So as you can see in my screen, there's t my two teams haven't I I like two teams. We can't quite see yours, Jamie. The new the new backgrounds come in in October. Nobody Jamie: It is. Liam: needs to worry. You'll be able to see all of Jamie's Panthers fandom coming through. Who are you picking as the division winner? Jamie: I think, I think people. It's back to back Carolina Panthers. Liam: When you say back to back you mean joint records with three other teams. Anyway. Jamie: I don't see the Bucks or Falcons banners, but I did like the Falcons because of obviously beating the Saints to get us to win the division. It's been a while. Liam: Fair. Okay. Should we discuss the bottom very quickly as well? Before we get into the argument of the top. I'm going Panthers. Jamie: I mean, I know you're, I mean, you're going Panthers now, which is outrageous because we have added, we've got Devin Lloyd, we've got Phillips from Miami, Jalen Coke is on a longer deal. Liam: Have you lost any players this off season, this this pre this preseason? Jamie: Is it any o- yeah, we got loads- we got like seven injuries. Who cares? Nick Scorton. Who cares? Got seven Lloyds. Yeah. I know. Liam: Yeah. There's a fantastic, fantastic thing that I've now seen. We talk about the substation in San Francisco. Have you seen the Carolina Panthers substation? Jamie: Yes. Liam: It's you know what we need to do? We need to do rankings of teams and injuries on their proximity to substations. Jamie: self-sufficiency. Liam: Because you guys are number two. Jamie: I Liam: Also, if I'm gonna pull the f pull trigger on like squads, right? I think that you have the third best quarterback situation. Jamie: He's in his fifth year option. He's got to play for a contract this season. Got to prove it. Liam: Okay, would you like Tyler Shook or would you like Bruce Young? Jamie: I like Tyler's shirt. Liam: Would you like Baker Mayfield or Bruce Young? Jamie: I don't want to pay you a callback 50 million a year. Sorry, rejected, rejected. That's what I'm thinking. I want my cap. Give me my cap space. Liam: Forget about the pay. Forget about the pa forget about the pay. For mate, you it's going up if you sign him. So if you if you sign him after a fifty year deal, first round pick, he's gonna be more. First round pick. Jamie: 50 year deal. Liam: Fifth af if you sign him after a fifth year deal, you're gonna be paying him that or more. Jamie: I think we're electric. We should have beat the rams. We should have beat them. We already beat the rams once, we should have done them. Liam: Should agree. No, again, and me and you both agree on this. The most underrated division, the biggest bloodbath there is in the NFL. No, the most Jamie: The NSC South is the... Liam: equal bloodbath, because you know, the NFC West is Jamie: Yeah. Liam: bad boy, but that you know, everyone doesn't have the same size stick in the fight. At least everyone has the same size stick in this fight. Jamie: Yeah, thing is you could order everybody. Right in all different, you can make a case, maybe the Falcons, you can make a case for the Bucks. I can't make a case for the Saints either. Liam: No. I can't say I think that the Saints are gonna win the division. I just can't quite see that full upside. Cause now they've lost now they've Jamie: Yeah. Liam: lost that new that now they've lost that new wide receiver. They've got Alarve, he does get injured. They've got to be fair, I quite like Travis A Chan. I wanna call him Etienne, but I quite Jamie: Yeah. Liam: like Travis A Chan. Okay. Jamie: And that's it. Liam: It's not have you not see Jamie: it is Liam: No, you've not not caught Jamie: no no didn't he call him didn't he call himself no what was it Liam: No it's because he's actually Travis A Chan. Jamie: Yeah, and yet obviously, yeah, change it for that. Liam: Jane, we're gonna forg you know what, you just don't like the Saints, I get it. Sorry. Jamie: I hate the science, don't even notice. Whenever we go to Caesar's dome, we get cheated. They try every single season. Liam: Mate, that mate, I think that's gotta be one of our top destinations we wanna go to. Jamie: would love to go there. It actually looks unbelievable by the way. Liam: Sorry, little cough. Anyway, that's not an ironic cough. That's just I actually want to go. Just anyway. So when neither of us are fully buying the can't was there. You're not buying. You're not okay. Jamie: I can't picture the Saints winning. Liam: Right, first of all, I'm not buying the Falcons winning. Jamie: I can't see the fat bits, will I? Liam: I love the Falcons players. I love their offensive weapons. The quarterback situation, rogue. And I don't think their defense is good enough to carry them. So you Jamie: straight London class. Yeah. Liam: know what? I'm gonna change my button pick. Jamie: Okay. Liam: I think my bottom of the NFC South is gonna be the Falcons. Worst quarterback situation. And I think the I think that I don't I don't I think that limits them too much. Even though I love Bijan. Jamie: Yeah, actually. Hmm. Liam: 'Cause I d I I mean I I reference that Bryce is the third best, but realistically that they are the fourth the worst situation. I think we're both Jamie: they are the worst situation. Imagine looking in your room, you've got PENIX and Tua. Liam: Penix and Tua and then apparently this undrafted bloke is playing better than them. Jamie: you said, yeah. Liam: So you know what, mate, my new bottom's the Falcons. Jamie: I can accept that. Liam: Okay. I think we're Lucking it in. Cool. Okay. Jamie: Obviously you're gonna go bucks to win it. Liam: I'm going books to win it. I think they have the most exciting upside in the division. I think they've got Mike Evans is gone, but I think part of that is because we've got fantastic receivers still. Obviously Egg Buca. Sorry, Evans. Obviously, love the guy. But we've got Jamie: That's going to change half effort this season. Liam: my yes. But Egg Buka. What honestly mad. Best first six games. Any wide receiver except for Randy Moss. Right? Best first six games ever. And then he got injured. And then he came back because everybody got injured. Baker was injured. The offensive line was injured. Bookie was like injured and missing. right. So now even if Bucky goes injured and missing again, now you've got Kenneth Gainwell who can catch passes, Steelers player of the year from last year. Bosch. So you've got back, you've got not Rashad White, you've got good running back depth. Wide receivers, you've got Amika Bukha, then okay, Amika Eggbuka. What's that meme? Eggbig Boo. Cool. Then you've got sorry, I know. Otten, underrated wide underrated tight end. He does everything. He actually does everything. He's not one of these dressed up wide receivers. He actually plays the position properly. You've got probably one of the a top five offensive line. Got Baker Mayfield who is fighting for a deal. Who I d I hate it, but who doesn't love an angry baker? Jamie: No, I mean, I think Liam: A spicy baker. Jamie: it was Texans last season. I think he went in with his shoulder or something like that. I think he'd done his knee. Then he'd come back and he was giving it to every single defensive player. That was it. Yeah, yeah. Liam: No. That's at the mate. He did his PCL, which is a mad injury. And then he got up and screamed in the Texans guy's face because Jamie: Yeah. Liam: he was like, Who are you? Who are you? And a Texans guy was like, You know who I am? And he was like, I don't. And he actually messed up his knee. That was in week two, right? You've got McMillan, the wide receiver, honestly, unreal. He had A one hundred yard game last year after coming back from a horrific neck injury. But he finished the game with like I think one of the last four games he had a one hundred yard game. And then in his rookie year the year before. Honestly, he was like winning fantasy leagues, helping to win out. Like if you got him on the waiver wires, the last four weeks of fantasy, again, unreal. Right? Got mate, I just think we've got Jamie: You know what the problem is though? It's head coach. Liam: Mate, Todd Bowles is a guy. And then mate, we got Vita Veya back. Yeah. Jamie: Yeah, 30 Minutes for a year. Liam: Yeah, do you know what? I think that the books are sneakily actually all in. I actually think they might clean house if they they're backing themselves to do something this year. And mate, Baker, no deal. Vita Veya extended by one year, right? Jamie: Yep. Liam: You right, we've got some good, good, good youth like proper youth. I think they're all in. Jamie: Top Bowls has to win. Liam: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jamie: he's gone. I think he's like... Liam: He's only in 'cause Bruce Ahrens has then just moved upstairs in the building, apparently, so Jamie: Yeah, but I feel like first head coach to go. he's on the fire, I he's well yeah, Cardinals know they're to be useless aren't they Liam: No anyway, we'll get to the quick I think Cardinal's gonna be close. But anyway I mean mate Salam if he doesn't do well at Titans, but no, he's any I don't think they'll get rid of him. Jamie: Nah, I Titan's happy. Yeah, I think Titan's be alright. Liam: okay, right, so right, who are we going for? I've really argued for the books. Jamie: You have, you have the right, I'll let you have the box. And then when the Panthers win it, we'll Liam: We're we're pinning it, we're gonna pin in it, we're gonna pin it. Jamie: pin the box. And then when Liam: Pin. Cool. Jamie: the Panthers win it, then it's happy days. Liam: So Bucks, Falcons losing. Jamie: Hard Liam: Final division. Jamie: vision. Someone say the best, but it does have the Cardinals in it. NFC West. I actually, we're gonna disagree, I think. Liam: We're gonna disagree. For the people Jamie: You're going Seahawks 1? Liam: watching us on video. Jamie: Big Russ. Liam: Big for us. I'm gonna go. Let's get the one easy one out of way. Jamie: Cardinal bomb. Liam: Connor's bottom, lucking it up. Jamie: Lovely. Liam: Cool. And I think we both think that the forty nine is gonna be third. Jamie: Yes. Yep. I think that's the Liam: Cool. We don't lock up thirds, but locking it up. Jamie: easiest three and four you could probably guess in the NFL. Liam: Yeah, I just think there's gonna be there's just too many old bodies on the on the Forty Niners. They're Jamie: Too much. Yep. Liam: fantastically talented, but old bodies and they're just getting injured. Like Mark Evers, I love him, but he just P can you rely on him anyway. Jamie: Well, when he come back last season, like the end of last season, just didn't look the same, did he? Yeah, still a legend though, but Liam: Yeah, like he broke his collarbone, his ham yeah. so Jamie: obviously, Liam: amazing. What a blow. cool. Jamie: Rhymes Twin. Mm. Liam: But I think I have to agree. Jamie: I think rams have got everything. Liam: I think I have to agree. Right. Rams had but they had everything before. I think the thing is they had everything and they've added. Jamie: Yes, although I didn't like the trade, but Liam: I don't think the trade was very much upside Jamie: No. Liam: because I think Verse was actually so good. I think he's underrated. And then you've Jamie: I think it was long term as well, massively. Liam: got long term, but I think they're all in for this year. I think the problem with the Rams, so to me, I actually think the Seahawks have a higher floor. Jamie: I like about that, yeah. Liam: But I think the problem is I think they've they've got like they've got squadrons. I think the biggest miss would be if they lost Jackson Smith to the cheek bat. Then JSN, Jamie: Yeah, like what? Yeah. Liam: if he goes, then you're struggling. But I think everywhere else, like Drew Locke as a backup quarterback, as yeah, like, you know, as a v yeah Jamie: I Drew Locke. I love Drew Locke, the Liam: as a backup quarterback, decent. Like you've got multiple tight ends, you've got multiple running backs, because that's a bit of a confusing situation at the Seahawks. You've got a swarming defense, you've got multiple players at every layer of the defense. Okay, so like I think what people struggle with is like Look at the star power of the Rams. So I think Jamie: Yeah. Liam: they go, Wow, the Rams could be a that great shot and turf again, right? But Devontae Adams, Puka, Madman, what if something happens to both of them? Jamie: Well, Pooker could easily, he could potentially have Liam: A ma he's a mad bloke. Jamie: a, yeah, he could get suspended most likely very well. Liam: Yeah. So like all of a sudden you go, if Stafford if anything happens to Stafford Jamie: They dropped the QB first round. It actually looks okay, Liam: You know what? Apparently he's looking all right. It's preseason though, so Jamie: but yeah, pre-season means absolutely nothing. Liam: So do you know what it's just one of those ones where you go, I think the floor's there for the Seahawks, but the ceiling's there for the Rams. Jamie: What I've done, what I've done all comes back as well. Liam: That's the thing though. yeah, what a bloke. I also like to think that all Jamie: I would love to see that. Liam: good players come through the NFC West. It's quite fun. they sort of just do. They just do. So okay. Jamie: Yeah, they're all good. Liam: I think I'm there with you. Jamie: Yeah? I gave you bucks to be fair, so... Liam: You gave me books. And I think if you look at the score you know, the helmet off the helmet, Charbonnet picking up the ball, if Jamie: Yeah. Liam: that doesn't happen, are things different? That's quite a mad play. Like Jamie: mental. Liam: these are it to me, this is the closest top. Jamie: Yeah, these are the two that you expect are going to be. Liam: I think we're picking ceiling over floor, I think is what we'll say. Jamie: I think we've, I probably picked the stars. Yeah. Liam: That's what I'm saying, yeah. So the ceiling being like that, that the full potential might be higher. Jamie: Yeah. Liam: But I think that the failure rate of the Rams is also higher. So yeah. Jamie: Yeah, and it wouldn't surprise me if the Seaworks won it still. Liam: Exactly. I I I've I've put mate I've been betting on the Seahawks than the Super Bowl because they're like they're only the fourth favourites at the minute. Jamie: I'm not surprised, but everyone keeps saying how many defensive players they've lost, but they've lost like third strings that make nice pieces of the puzzle. Yeah. Liam: That's the point. It's a s it's a system that yeah, like Boy Maffei, right, I think that was a bit of a blow. I like him a lot. But like there's so much going on that defense is actually You don't begrudge your man. But yeah. I mate, pay me that money. Jamie: You wouldn't got paid as well. yeah, no. We all love it. So. Liam: Cool. Okay, right, pin in the Rams. Did I know? gosh. Okay, right, that's the end of our division. predictions fine let us know if you disagree that's it Jamie: if you disagree or agree. Liam: or agree we have we have this is the bit I have to remember like comment share follow at fourth Jamie: subscribe. Liam: Then last exercise. Who's gonna be the team of fourth and tea? Who's at the table with us? So we've got Jamie, a Panthers fan. Liam, a greedy little Bucks Seahawks fan. Who we're going who we're going with like team of the pod. Team of the pod. Like we're just gonna be tracking them like that's this is our joint venture. I think you can go two ways. You wanna be like, are we gonna unearth a gem that's just like Jamie: Yeah. Liam: rising and doing well? I do know what I think we just want a team that we want to support and see do well. Jamie: that's a good, okay. Who do you want to see do well? Liam: I've got I've got two I've got two. Jamie: Yeah, go on, hit me. Liam: The Lions. Jamie: Yeah. See, that's, but I love the lines though. Liam: And the Jags. Jamie: Jacks as well. You want to see the jacks do well. Liam: I do. Who doesn't want to see the little horseman do well? Imagine him galloping in to like the Super Bowl. Imagine Jamie: Long hair, taking the helmet off, yeah. Liam: the scene of the Jags at the Super Bowl. Unreal. I like what's not to like about the Jags? You don't like Liam Curtain. Jamie: it's just liam cohen it's just a terrible terrible i think it's put everyone off do phone Liam: You don't like that. Jamie: It's that first press conference just ruined his... Doofus... Liam: Yeah, I love that. Different thinker. Mate, there's these two g two guys coming up. The new the new two offensive big dogs of the league. It's Ben Johnson with the Bears. Jamie: Mm. Liam: It's gonna be I think h is Mr. Duval himself next. William Cohen. He gets the running game Jamie: I like him, it's just I think... Liam: going. Which is what that whole Shanahan stuff's pr predicated on, you know, getting up makes an easier system to run it. So like, you know, my t right, we'll we'll get back to them. Lions and Jags, big cats. Big cats are fun. So yeah. Who Jamie: Bye y'all. Liam: who are gonna be your two suggestions? And we'll have a little hash it out. Jamie: Well, we agree on one. I don't know what to My two. We haven't even referred. Liam: Who are you too? Jamie: Lions. I love the lions. Love the lions. Liam: Lions Lions Co Jamie: And it was actually going be the Rams, but I think the Rams is too obvious and they're going to win it and you don't like them. So it's like you pick in like. Liam: Do you really want to see the Rams do well though? Like, are you really Jamie: Yeah Liam: there going, wow, wouldn't it be good with these plucky little, Jamie: Not wow, but like... Liam: these plucky little Rams, they're like great skill players, they just never really get it done. Mate, the Rams are just like, mate, that's like saying, I really just want like the USA, Jamie: stars star on every position Liam: NBA, all-star teams to do well at the Olympics. You don't want Jamie: they could struggle. Liam: that. You want them to get beaten by Spain, you know. Jamie: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Liam: If the Rams get beaten by anybody that's not like a top-tier team, it's gonna be hilarious. it's not gonna be a fun watch because everybody they beat, you're gonna say, Yeah. Every time they lose, you're Jamie: How okay. Liam: gonna say, How do they do that? The Lions, we're gonna see loads of wins. We're also gonna see. Jamie: How about this for storyline? You ready for the storyline? Back to back MVP quarterback, right? Last ever season, 20 plus years in division. Mr. Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's it. Do you not hear that little farewell? Yeah. Liam: You know what? When it was Tom Brady and went to the books, forget about Tampa Bay. But Tom Brady could sling it and he could still achieve things. Whereas Rogers just looks like he's lost it. That's why I don't find it fun. Jamie: I Aaron Rodgers. Liam: Kind of Tom Brady. Yes, I saw that. Yeah, look, come on, let's Jamie: He's reconciled with his family. Yeah, I love Tom Brady as well, but I mean, yeah. Liam: be real. Tom Brady Aaron Roger is not the same ballpark in the end. It didn't turn up that way. At one point it was there, but I think no. No. It's only 'cause they Jamie: No, I mean, that is a, that's a conversation if you really want. Well, no, no longevity. Liam: you're gonna if they didn't play together, it wouldn't have been the conversation. Like if we didn't play at the same time. So yeah. Jamie: Yeah. Yeah. Liam: Okay, right. So you're the Lions and the Rams. And you're skeptical about the jags? Jamie: Yeah. Liam: Ooh. Let's throw out a wild card. Jamie: okay. Liam: Just another one to discuss. How and I haven't put them to win a division, but how do you feel about the Bengals? Jamie: Don't trust them. Liam: You don't trust them, but w isn't that that plucky story? Mate, if if Burroughs is there a s Jamie: this I I can yeah I can foresee an injury Liam: I think it's more safe to predict an injury than not at this point. Jamie: But I mean, when it was the Bengals against Rams and Super Bowl, everyone wanted the Bengals, but then Eli Apple was playing cornerback and, you know, that ended that. Liam: I mean it's one of these things again, we're not we can't say they're gonna like well we can, but like it's a good story though, isn't it? Jamie: It is, but is it a better story that they fail when Burrow moves on, Burrow finds another team to go play for? That's a better story. Liam: If it happens. So, okay, cool. We're gonna put that to bed. Have you got any wildcards? Jamie: to do what... Liam: Sorry, I'll have to say that the Rams was terrible. Jamie: No, no, fair, fair. They'll probably go on to win the Super Bowl. But like, you know, you've got to somebody. I'm actually... I could go Giants. John Harbaugh. That's what they got. Liam: Do you like me some giants? But Cam Scaboo. Jamie: Don't believe in He smacks his head against the wall. What a guy Liam: Sorry, yeah, put no no, can't do backflips, but he believes he can. There's a lot of things that this guy's doing. Yeah. Jamie: by the way. Liam: Yeah, he's only got two more seasons in him must think, unfortunately. It's almost Jamie: yeah, yeah, wouldn't be surprised. Liam: like he chooses to run through the wall when the door's just there. Jamie: Yeah, but it looks cooler. Liam: Like that T V advert when there's those pick me for fantasy ones and the PP's just smash through walls and like, Yeah, Jamie: Yeah, smash through the wall. Liam: that's Cam Okay. Okay. Jamie: But would John Harbaugh get it out of him though? he like, can all the coaches to get it, get that silliness out of someone. Liam: Who knows? Again, giants. Jamie: I John Arbor's an interest. He's the only reason why I'm like, interesting. For Liam: Interesting. Jamie: laughable factor to throw in, which I think would be quite funny to see, would be a tour to laugh at. know? think he'd be quite funny to watch him back. Liam: That's yeah. No, I like that. I like that take. Okay. Giants. I don't feel like I do know what? I feel like we're both Jamie: thing is we can't support someone who's then gonna come on as a on some of the pods because they'll be back in his team. Can't have that. Can't turn it into three supporters. Liam: Yeah, exactly. We might have to we might have to say Jay James's Giants, Jamie's Panthers, Jamie: in the bin. Yeah, it's fun. Liam: Liam's Books, Liam's Seahawks, Liam's Jags, Liam's Titans, Jamie: We both like the lions. Liam: Liam's who else is gonna name Jets, yeah, Liam's Jets, Jamie: Gino Smith is Jets. Yeah. Liam: yeah, all of the teams. But yeah, for in all seriousness, yeah, probably a team that we sport, which probably shouldn't have as the team of fourth and team. Jamie: Yeah. So who are you happy? We both said lions. Don't you both want lions? Liam: I think I think we probably said lions. I I did have one last one which I had written down. I have got one more team to just throw out there. Jamie: Cool. Go on. Liam: Ravens. Jamie: I think we both picked the Ravens to win the division. Liam: Yeah, I mean like the Bengals can be fun, but like it would be just nice like I I could get behind the Ravens. Jamie: Just, do know what? I'll back. I'm happy with the Ravens. Liam: Are we going ravens over lions? Jamie: I think so, only because, right, we've got seahawks, bucks, giants, panthers. That's a load of NFC. Maybe we have a look at the AFC. Give that a little bit of love. Liam: You know what, maybe we need to do some ASC. I'm a bit good though about the Lions, but I'll meet I could beat Lamar all day. I could do that. Lamar, Derek Henry. That's cool. Jamie: It's an interesting one. Yeah, because they've all they've been on like them and the bills, for example, have been there or thereabouts. Liam: Yeah. also sorry, no banter. They're like my fourth team, the Bills. Jamie: I mean, he did go there. Liam: I went there last year in the snow, beating the Bengals. What a day. Honestly, what a day. Anyway, that's just. Jamie: Did you go through a table? Liam: I didn't. But anyway, that's just a bit of a nostalgia just thing anyway. Anyway, yeah, Bills and the Ravens, they've been riding that thing. What one of them I think has got a breakthrough. The AFC, like the Ravens could put together an offence and a defense. And how many teams in the AFC are actually bringing both? elite versions of that to the table. I'm f I you know what? This is c Jamie: Map of the Ravens. Liam: this is kind of crazy that we've got here, but I think we're going with the Ravens. Jamie: Block the ravens. Liam: First year, first team of fourth and tea. Locking it in. The ravens? Crazy. Jamie: Beautiful. There you go. Liam: Go Birds. Jamie: Yeah, we've to go Baltimore. Liam: How do you bully more? Jamie: anymore. Liam: Okay, cool. So I think that's it for this episode, Jamie. I've had fun. Yeah. Jamie: Yeah, it's been good. It's been long. We've agreed. We've disagreed. Liam: We've got there in the end though. So yeah, I think Jamie: we got there. We picked the team. Liam: cues the cue the music and see ya next time. Jamie: See you next time.