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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists.
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  Speaker 1: This week on the show they See life and Bring
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  Speaker 1: it to us.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. This week we're talking to documentarians.
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  Speaker 3: Documentarians of all types. We gather around a table to
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  Speaker 3: talk process of storytelling and showing the truth.
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  Speaker 4: So let's turn on the camera towards ourselves for a change,
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  Speaker 4: and let's think about what that does.
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  Speaker 5: It's time to get introspective in a real world. So
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  Speaker 5: let's buckle up and listen.
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  Speaker 2: In Sha boo boop, tensil down.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, this is so great.
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  Speaker 5: I never saw myself like being in a room like
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  Speaker 5: this with all of you guys. This is actually really
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  Speaker 5: cool for.
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  Speaker 1: Me, really wonderful to be here with all of you,
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  Speaker 1: really really nice. I think your work is really fine.
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  Speaker 1: It's really fantastic, and it's really exciting to be here together.
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  Speaker 4: Incredible company we are amongst it feels like a table.
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  Speaker 6: Of legends exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I would love to get to know you guys
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  Speaker 5: on the mic. So do you want to start?
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  Speaker 2: Sure?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my name is Ron Wold. I have I don't
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  Speaker 1: know six or seven oscars not counting, but I'm a
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  Speaker 1: documentary's been doing it for a long time. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: historian and my new documentary, The History of Posters in
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  Speaker 1: twelve parts, is coming out pretty soon. So I really
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  Speaker 1: I dived into when posters began and where they went,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm really excited about it.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, that sounds mega interesting. Maybe. Thanks, that's so cool man.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, I think it's riveting and fascinating because they
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  Speaker 2: hang on the wall.
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  Speaker 1: But why that is the question, and we answer it
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  Speaker 1: in a bit. You know, we don't give it all away,
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  Speaker 1: but we definitely pause it.
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  Speaker 2: Why.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, you shouldn't be answering questions, you should be asking them.
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  Speaker 4: And you should always pause it. I believe that is
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  Speaker 4: one of the cornerstones of documentary filmmaking is to posit something.
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  Speaker 3: Pause, pause it, pause the TV pause it all.
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  Speaker 7: To pousit a question.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone, rise your hand if you posit things in your documentaries.
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  Speaker 8: I pause all the time. I say, pause that right there,
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  Speaker 8: pause it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so if I'm following the logic, I
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  Speaker 5: feel like I know what it means totally.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 8: Hey guys, Uh, my name is Leam Michaels.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really happy to be here.
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  Speaker 8: Really happy to be here.
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  Speaker 3: I I think I'm here for my best award winning work.
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  Speaker 3: I did a little Netflix series called Sales, where we
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  Speaker 3: followed middle school sale teams to their championships all the
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  Speaker 3: way in Costa Rica.
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  Speaker 8: It was incredible, changed my life. We did two seasons.
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  Speaker 3: We're now onto three seasons, our third season, I should say,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm just I'm I'm I'm grateful to be an artist,
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  Speaker 3: but to be overcome by art.
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  Speaker 6: Wow. So it's like a reality TV doc kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we just expose these kids for who they are
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  Speaker 3: and what they do.
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  Speaker 6: The kid's bad.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I would say we expose in a
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  Speaker 3: positive sense. I'm exposing these children for their heroicism, their ambition,
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  Speaker 3: and their souls.
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  Speaker 2: I have to admit.
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  Speaker 1: I have to admit Sales is a guilty pleasure for
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  Speaker 1: me and my lady Kitty.
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  Speaker 2: We love we love Sales. We watched it all the time.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you so much. I yeah, I went up. I came.
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  Speaker 3: I come from the reality TV world, I should say that,
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  Speaker 3: And I stumbled into documentarianism.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah that's great.
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  Speaker 5: I love the belief of documentarianism. I think it's a
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  Speaker 5: fantastic belief for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ray the altar of documentarianism.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: My name is Augusto Spoons.
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  Speaker 4: I am a documentary filmmaker recently nominated for a Critics
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  Speaker 4: Choice Award for my documentary spoons It, in in which
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  Speaker 4: this documentary I placed the camera betwixt myself and my soul.
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  Speaker 4: I get into a glass box, lock myself inside, and
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  Speaker 4: sit there for sixty days. My documentary is an examination
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  Speaker 4: of what happens to a man when you do that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, have you showered since? Because I was gonna say
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  Speaker 5: something it reeks over here.
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  Speaker 4: No, I will not shower, and will I win the
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  Speaker 4: Critics Choice Award.
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  Speaker 3: I also think that might also be a wave of me.
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  Speaker 3: I've been sailing with the kids. I think we all break.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that is true.
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  Speaker 1: Flies die in my editing, Bay, I'm gonna be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you. I mean, I am a stinky guy. As documentarians,
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  Speaker 1: we spend a lot of time just staring at the screen.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just trying to You're looking through footage after footage
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  Speaker 5: after footage, like hours of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'll be in my casket watching footage.
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  Speaker 1: So, Augusto, so would you consider your documentary interpretive or
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  Speaker 1: performance art or what part of it makes it a documentary?
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  Speaker 7: I would say that it is the truth.
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  Speaker 4: What is a documentary if not displaying things as they are?
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  Speaker 4: And in my documentary, I show myself breaking myself to
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  Speaker 4: the limits of what a man can endure. Sixty days,
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  Speaker 4: glass cage filled to the brim with bats?
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  Speaker 6: What happens to a man you did not have? That
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  Speaker 6: was I think?
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  Speaker 1: So would you consider it a situation that altered your experience?
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  Speaker 2: Would it have been different without the bats?
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  Speaker 8: That sounds like something a studio asked you to add
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  Speaker 8: on because the pitch wasn't good enough.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I remember the bats being an afterthought. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't the primary thing I set out to do. But
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  Speaker 4: sometimes you begin a documentary, and you begin a project
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  Speaker 4: and then slowly things are added in you stumble upon discoveries.
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  Speaker 5: That's insane because that is just like my documentary.
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  Speaker 7: Actually, please tell us.
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  Speaker 5: So what's up, guys. I'm Kyler Biler. I am a
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  Speaker 5: surfer and I love shooting surf docs. But my recent
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  Speaker 5: doc got out of control. It's called The Surfer Murderer.
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  Speaker 8: I saw it at Tribeca.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you? Did you like it?
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  Speaker 8: I absolutely loved it?
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  Speaker 6: Thank you so much. So, Yeah, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Basically what happened was we were down kind of traveling
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  Speaker 5: all over Thailand and like all looking for the best
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  Speaker 5: wave and it was going to be called that one wave.
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  Speaker 5: But then one of my bros got fucking murdered and
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  Speaker 5: now we're just trying to figure out what happened. It's crazy, And.
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  Speaker 2: How do you know he was murdered versus drowned.
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  Speaker 5: No, he was definitely murdered, like he was on a
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  Speaker 5: surfboard and the next minute gone.
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  Speaker 7: He was murdered in the sea on a surfboard.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, he was murdered in the sea on a surfboard.
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  Speaker 5: And we know he got killed by somebody, so there
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  Speaker 5: was a stab wounder, he was gone. All we found
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  Speaker 5: was his hand, you did not have. All we could
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  Speaker 5: find was his hand. So he got murdered bad. Something
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  Speaker 5: went down. So we're trying to figure it out. And
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  Speaker 5: that's the beauty of the documentary because it's both filming
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  Speaker 5: looking filming surfing, but also looking past at all the
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  Speaker 5: footage that I've had over like the last like twelve
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  Speaker 5: years surfing with my bros, and we're trying to piece
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  Speaker 5: together which one of us killed them.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's what I thought was so interesting about watching
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  Speaker 3: your movie was that the surfer murderer title is implying
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  Speaker 3: that there's another surfer who killed your surfing exactly.
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  Speaker 8: That was the craziest part to me.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not called the surfer murder.
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  Speaker 5: And we had a long debate meaning with the guys,
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  Speaker 5: because it's not the surfer murder, it's the surfer murderer, Like,
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  Speaker 5: would it not.
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  Speaker 7: Be more accurate to call it surfer murdered?
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  Speaker 6: I love that. I wish we thought of that.
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  Speaker 5: We just did not have the brain capacity to put
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  Speaker 5: that together totally totally.
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  Speaker 6: If you work with what you got, you work with
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  Speaker 6: what you got.
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  Speaker 1: I want to point out something you said, just to
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  Speaker 1: ask more questions about it. You said that you have
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  Speaker 1: to figure out which one of you is the murderer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so you know that one of you did it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well we all suspect, you know, It's what it's
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  Speaker 5: a situation. There's only a couple of us out there.
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  Speaker 5: One of us had to do it, and so basically
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  Speaker 5: it's us looking back in a big room figure it
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  Speaker 5: out the pieces, you know. Sometimes, like I caught up,
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  Speaker 5: like one of the most iconic scenes I'm getting rave
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  Speaker 5: reviews about I'm hearing is my buddy eric Off. He
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  Speaker 5: was talking to Tout and tut is the guy that
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  Speaker 5: unfortunately got murdered, and eric Off says like, dude, you
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  Speaker 5: fucking stole my wave out there. And this was six
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  Speaker 5: years before Tuty got killed. So we use that and
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  Speaker 5: we were all like, Eric Goff, what was that? And
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  Speaker 5: he was like, dude, I don't know. Maybe I did
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  Speaker 5: kill him. So it's riveting. It's very confusing, and.
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  Speaker 7: Every man believes he could have killed him.
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  Speaker 5: Every man understands that they have the capacity to kill him.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it was so interesting scene I Trybecca because the
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  Speaker 3: whole true crime community was there and they were like,
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  Speaker 3: this doesn't feel like true crime.
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  Speaker 6: It feels like that.
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  Speaker 2: Must be difficult. I love to talk a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about true crime.
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  Speaker 1: In this world because it has engulfed documentaries.
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  Speaker 2: For me, somebody who does long form.
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  Speaker 1: Historical topics, it's definitely not as sexy. How do we
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  Speaker 1: feel about true crime?
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  Speaker 5: Must really tough for you, you know, because I feel
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  Speaker 5: like documentaries for a long time were boring history films,
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  Speaker 5: And not that that's bad. I love boredom, like boredom
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  Speaker 5: is a beautiful thing for me, but like that must
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  Speaker 5: rock your freaking world.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't rock my world. Boredom is subjective. I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the they're not boring.
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  Speaker 6: They're really but that's good.
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  Speaker 1: I like details. They're exciting to me when I watch
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  Speaker 1: a documentary. When I watch a nine hour documentary about
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  Speaker 1: you know, the history of the Korean War, I am screaming, shouting, cheering.
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  Speaker 2: For me, that is the most exciting thing of my life.
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  Speaker 1: I am enthralled, and on the edse of my seat,
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  Speaker 1: I'm biting my nails.
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  Speaker 2: I am exhausted.
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  Speaker 1: I sleep for a full day after watching because I
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  Speaker 1: am so spent because everything else in my life is
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  Speaker 1: boring compared to those.
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  Speaker 2: Everything else in my life is.
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  Speaker 7: Do you do during the days.
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  Speaker 2: During the days, I live in my house in Baker's Field.
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  Speaker 6: You said you had a lady lady My no.
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  Speaker 2: No, her name is Kitty. She's my wife. I call
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  Speaker 2: it my lady.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, I thought it was a cat.
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  Speaker 1: I did say my lady kitty. But but she is
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  Speaker 1: my lady and her name is Kitty.
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  Speaker 8: Got it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, So me and my lady Kitty. We like
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  Speaker 1: to sit in our house in Baker's Field.
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  Speaker 2: We like to grow our grass garden, and.
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  Speaker 1: We like to make different types of aolis based on
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  Speaker 1: things that we can find in the store and see if.
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  Speaker 8: Oh no, Kyler, Biler, Kyler Biler, Kyler, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Ma'am, I won't be intimidated by yawns. You think you're
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  Speaker 2: the first person to do it.
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  Speaker 6: I love sleep. I love sleep.
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  Speaker 2: Answer me, do you think you're the first person to
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  Speaker 2: do that to me?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 2: What I like isn't boring. What you like is boring?
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  Speaker 6: Dude?
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  Speaker 5: I wow, I like Michael Bay. Okay, is that boring?
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you everything that happens in a Bichael
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  Speaker 1: Bay movie based on the first thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 2: That's boring to me.
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  Speaker 3: I think I can say the same thing about your
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  Speaker 3: poster movie. Really that a guy invented posters and he
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  Speaker 3: just stup brnted him out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to cannibalize us, guys. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to rip each other out.
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  Speaker 6: If anyone was go ahead, this feels just like my movie.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way you could have predicted in the sixth
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  Speaker 1: hour of my poster documentary when the guy that was
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  Speaker 1: making posters ended up on the posters.
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  Speaker 2: Could you predicted that? And that's just that's one of
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  Speaker 2: the twenty five storylines I follow.
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  Speaker 7: That was a twist I was surprised by.
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  Speaker 4: I also would like to compliment your documentary was such
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  Speaker 4: an exquisite study of boredom, of what happens when the
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  Speaker 4: viewer is exposed to boredom, of what goes on. It
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  Speaker 4: was such a statement I will say about the capacity
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  Speaker 4: of man.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I got so much shit done when I watched Posters.
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  Speaker 3: You know that area under your couch that you never clean.
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  Speaker 3: I cleaned under my couch that part of the area
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  Speaker 3: I also know. But I was watching your film and
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  Speaker 3: I was saying, I think it's the simplicity of life. Like,
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  Speaker 3: listen to me, I'm working on Netflix shit, and anytime
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  Speaker 3: I think it's done, somebody else comes in there and goes,
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  Speaker 3: let's add more music on top of the music, and
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  Speaker 3: I go, do we need more?
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  Speaker 8: Do we need more?
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  Speaker 3: And they go, add another montage to the kids setting
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  Speaker 3: the sails, add another montage, and I go, come on, guys,
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  Speaker 3: it's about being simple. And when I was watching your
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  Speaker 3: poster film, I was like, God, I had nothing else
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  Speaker 3: to do.
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  Speaker 8: But sit around and think about what I could do
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  Speaker 8: in the room while watching it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I can't tell if you're mocking meat. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't envy you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't envy you because I get to write all
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  Speaker 1: the music for my documentaries. I use my key tar,
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  Speaker 1: and I just go to town and I.
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  Speaker 6: Have with you.
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  Speaker 8: I find it very fascinating.
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  Speaker 6: How simple.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, cataoli's are you and the wife cooking up?
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  Speaker 2: We tried one? We did catoli?
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  Speaker 8: Are you just making sauces? What makes it an ale?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the difference between a mayonnaise and aoli is a
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  Speaker 1: consistency I believe in, and also just the capacity for flavor.
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  Speaker 4: It does it not require eggs to qualify as an aoli?
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  Speaker 5: I thought it was the garlic. See this feels like
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  Speaker 5: when you're a documentary now.
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  Speaker 2: I never could touch aoli's. It's too complex.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't get I couldn't get the concept in a
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  Speaker 1: suitable time frame.
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  Speaker 2: It would be too long.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's actually leads me to an interesting question about
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  Speaker 5: like the length of things, because like, like we're dealing
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  Speaker 5: with a lot of time and how to make a
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  Speaker 5: story out of all these things, like with sales, like
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  Speaker 5: you guys are dealing with a lot of things like
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  Speaker 5: how do you choose what story to follow?
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  Speaker 6: And what what things to do.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I'm a part of a machine.
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  Speaker 3: These kids they take they take the boat by the horns.
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  Speaker 6: So their children on a boat.
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  Speaker 8: So they do competitive sailing.
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  Speaker 5: I thought they were selling things. I thought that was
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  Speaker 5: the crust. Yeah, I thought they You were following kids
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  Speaker 5: as they sail. They sell things like crazy.
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  Speaker 3: You mix up sail and sell, and you have a
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  Speaker 3: film called Server Murderer.
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  Speaker 8: Anyway, so we, yeah, we follow competitive sailing.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know about you, guys, because sometimes I'm
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  Speaker 3: like you, you follow that man that made the poster,
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  Speaker 3: but you are the you are the center of your
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  Speaker 3: doc I follow the story. If I'm following a year
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  Speaker 3: of competitive sailing at Saint Mark's Elementary School, that isn't interesting.
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  Speaker 8: That's two years of footage down the drain.
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  Speaker 2: But I have to say I've again. Me and my
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  Speaker 2: lady Kitty, we watch sales and it is so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe some of that stuff happens. The fact
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  Speaker 2: that the long lost sister comes back after being lost
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  Speaker 2: in the accident and one of them breaks their femur.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much trauma and Netflix.
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  Speaker 4: Only devoted about forty five seconds to that storyline.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, when she broke her femur.
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  Speaker 3: That took a whole semester of drama and we winned
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  Speaker 3: it down to about forty five seconds.
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  Speaker 8: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: It was just like she broke her femur out in sea,
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  Speaker 3: and boy was that. That's footage on footage on we
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  Speaker 3: had we had because when you're at sea, you have
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  Speaker 3: it and you have something go down, you have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of taxiing boats in and we got all of
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  Speaker 3: that footage and that was just down the drain.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Really, that's crazy. How does she break her femur out there?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, she fell on her ankle.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry, she fell on her ankle and broke her fur.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's a complex sailing term, which means she was
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  Speaker 3: holding the she was holding the anchor and when you
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  Speaker 3: drop the anchor and you hurt yourself, you you call
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  Speaker 3: it you fell on your ankle.
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  Speaker 6: So she got caught in the anchor.
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  Speaker 8: No, she ye similar to that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you act like this is something that we wouldn't understand,
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  Speaker 1: but it feels like we could understand that.
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  Speaker 2: She just let us in what way? So did William.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just trying to figure out how this so if
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  Speaker 5: I could try to explain it. She fell on her ankle,
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  Speaker 5: which is a sailing the term for get caught up
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  Speaker 5: in the anchor and being plunged deep into the ocean,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: so deep that the pressure breaks a femur or something else.
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: She rose to the top. The only thing that happened.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and get we only have forty five seconds of
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: that footage, but god, when she slowly rose up and
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: they brought her back to life. Her ex boyfriend, who
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: was on the same sailing team, had to give her
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: mouth to mouth, which was also incredibly cinematic.
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: But uh, she lived to tell the tale.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: How old are these kids? Oh?
• 18:29
  Speaker 8: We do elementary through high school.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: Oh wow, you know what I love too.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I love when you followed the lunch lady. It was
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: interesting because I didn't know how it quite connected, but
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: it made me realize, well, these kids already lush every day,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: so technically it was connected. And she was interesting.
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: No, yes, she's great. She's on Dancing with the Stars now.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I saw her. I'm vutting for her.
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah, good, you better be.
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: She has such an incredible whimsy about her.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: How she dances, she is really amazing.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I really, really, really really hope she wins over Nia
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: from Dance Moms.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, No, she did a great job. Dorothy is her name.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, she's amazing.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: She Who would have thought sandwiches like that don't get
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: soggy when you're out at sea with kids?
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: Come on, that's insane.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Actually, I did want to ask, so you said a
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: lot of footage? How many hours of footage did we
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: all have for the documentary?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: We just shot?
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Wow?
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: Oh let's go around, let's go round.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Well, I had sixty days of footage plus ten hours
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: of interviews with myself. I will say I lost about
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: twenty days worth of footage because some of the bats
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: escaped the box and covered the camera completely for twenty days.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: So they escaped the box and they covered the camera
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: like they like, They fluttered around.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: It, yeah constantly.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: That'll kill your sound. Yeah, I don't know how you
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: did the regular sound. Were you just doing camera audio sound?
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: You're poor son of a bitch. Sound guy.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I had a sound man holding the boom for sixty days.
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: He for sure had to have a setup. He did
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: not have to hold that thing.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: No, when a man is pushed to the brink, he
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: can do incredible things. Mothers can lift cars, fathers can
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: lift cars, and a boom guy can hold the boom.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Do you want to give him a special shout out
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: say his name?
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: Absolutely not.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I think it's clear in the documentary that we can
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: feel a sound man being pushed to the brink.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Well, I'll say I loved your doc and I didn't
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: know how you chose what you chose because it felt
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: like you were cutting basically at the most interesting part,
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: like it was about to be interesting, and then you'd
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: cut away to the next day or something.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: Yes, I am a bit of a tease.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I like to take people into what they believe will
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: happen and then subvert.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: It by cutting away.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: There are I believe, fifteen hour segments of me trimming
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: my fingernails and only a.
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: Few of me learning how to drive.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just dying to know about your life,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Like what does your every day look like? Because you
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: seem like you thrive off of pushing people to the brink.
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: It sounds like, yes.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Every morning I wake up six am, I head to
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: the coffee.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: Room that I have oh coffee, the kitchen.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: It is a wondrous place.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: There's a sink and an oven and a box that
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: keeps my food very cold.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: It sounds like a kitchen.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: It is the room where my coffee is made.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And then I have a sip of the coffee and
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I retire to my chamber where I sleep the rest
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: of the day.
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: I awake again at three in the morning, and I'm right.
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: You have your coffee, you go to bed.
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: So you wake up at six ams.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: You make a cup of coffee, you go to bed,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: one zip, so's to not disturb the slumber that must follow.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: This is, of course, during the winter months. During the summer,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: it is the midnight sun and I do not sleep.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: I live on an island off of Norway.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's that called.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: Little Norway?
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: This makes me really interested in what everyone's day to
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: day is.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, sure, Kyler, Biler, Kyler, Well, yeah, I would
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: love to go into it. So basically, wake up early,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: you know, drink some coffee, and then it's hit the surf.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: It's hit the surf as quick as possible. Then after
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: hitting the surf, you're out there and you're just praising everything.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: You come back in, get a smoothie, a sandwich.
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: Do you believe in one god or more?
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Oh me, I love the idea of a lot of
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: gods for me. I think it's so cool, like the
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: idea like water God. Oh my gosh, you're the god
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: of the water, you control all the seas. Fish god, whoa,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: you're the god of a fish. You're literally the god
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: of a fish.
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: Do you believe in multiple gods?
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I believe that man is his own god, and it's
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: something that I believe comes through very clearly in my work.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I didn't get that as much. I didn't get it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Just looked like a man struggling in a glass box
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: sometimes learning how to drive.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I would say, I think the bat's one. I think
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the bat's one.
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: Oh, I mean it was a clear message that the
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: bats one.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: I thought I thought.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I took away like, wow, bats are kind of stronger
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: than I thought.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: You like shit at the end of it, Do you
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: perhaps think that as a filmmaker, that is what I
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: wanted you to think?
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: Well, can you tell.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Us you want us to think that the baths beat you?
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Do you perhaps think that as a filmmaker?
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I made you think you thought that, okay, but later
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: you would examine that maybe you did not.
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: Now I don't like this. I don't like now you
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: don't I don't like this.
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: I don't want to.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I don't like one a documentarian is making me think
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: something and then telling me to not think it. I
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: just want you to just lay it out there. I
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: don't want any manipulation happening. The facts are the facts.
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: The bats wan.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: That is true. The facts are the facts.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: It was a clear ending that you even said at
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: the end the bat's won. I thought that's what we
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: were supposed to walk away with.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: And that is the pedestrian interpretation of my work.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: I'm not a pedestrian. I am an ocean man. I'm
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: a surfer.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: Jesus Christ.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: I'm not a man who would ever walk a lot.
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: Do you think you killed your friend?
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: No?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: What? Maybe?
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: Though I don't remember.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: Wait, you don't want to be known for walking?
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: I hate that stick. It's a gross of what I'm
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: a surfer.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not a pedestrian, okay, and I hate that word.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: And if we could just stop, that'd be great.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Every man must cross the street. It is a fool's endeavor.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: To unless you have a long board. Do you ever
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: think about that?
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: Do you stand on your longboard as you cross the streets?
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Sometimes, but mostly I'm bending over?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: You don't pretend I'm on the way.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: This is difficult for me because I agree with Augusto,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: but I can't ever say that. You know what I mean,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: because Kyler is clearly wrong. But I would never want
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to be on the same campus him.
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: You fear what you see.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I am holding a mirror up to your very inner being,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: and you fear that.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: Why do you fear that?
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: I agree? I agree with Augusto, but I'd never tell him.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: I tell him.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: And to address the rumors that I was the one
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: that killed my friend again, I don't know.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: There are no rumors that you guys cannot believe. There
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: are rumors that he trapped.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: All I'm saying is if you guys saw it, you
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: might maybe think I did it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: And I was convinced a little bit too. It was confusing.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Can you give us the facts? Who are the suspects?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Who is who do you think could have done it?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm just curious?
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Okay, So well, okay, So it's my friend I mentioned before, Fart.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: It's Eric gong Fart Tuti is the guy who died.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: He is my bro.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: We know each other for a long time. So Eric
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: gong Fart, Jacob Bumpy, he's the guy who can frickin
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: shred but also has a dark side. And then this
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: girl named Kurf and she's like a crazy surf chick
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: and she's great. And then the only other thing that
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: we could come up with was there was something swimming
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: in the water nearby, but mostly were one of those five.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: So we were trying to figure out by watching the
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: footage that I had, and like kind of an a
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: round table, like who did this? And people came in
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: with a lot of thoughts.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: It was so crazy, the part in your doc where
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: you make everyone say their alibi and they're like in
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the water.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was crazy because like I say, like, I say,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: like my albi. So I was standing in the water.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: I was in the water. I looked up with this guy.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: I saw two D take the white wave of his
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: life and then I don't remember what happened. The next thing,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: I know, two D's gone, and I just got yelled
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: at because Eric Gon was like, dude, you weren't looking up.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: You weren't looking up, you were looking to the side.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I remember that as that big thing passed under you
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: and you said, there's a big thing in the water.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Do you perhaps remember hearing a large chomp sound, not as.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: Much a chomp but a thrash. For sure.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: I heard something. There was something, and we all suspected
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: that was the killer.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: My assistant was telling me there's a large online community
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that they're doing something called the shark theory.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard about this.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: No, and we hate that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I don't even think it's an online thing. I think
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: it's just like a known thing.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: Like I believe it was the police's opinion.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: It was an online thing spread by the police, the
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Long Beach Police.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you a really forward question please? At
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: this point, I'm like, what about the truth these people
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: at this table right, Yeah, I'm just gonna ask, do
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: you find that the true crime documentarianism community is so
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: so competitive that you took your story and made it
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: more complicated than it actually is so people could try
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: to put clues together?
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: Because I will say, what's.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: A huge part of crime docs is people trying to
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: solve it. And it feels like you're forcing me to
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: solve something that doesn't need to be solved.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: What I don't understand a fucking word you're saying right now.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: I don't understand. Are you calling me a pedestrian? I
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: don't walk a lot. I roll, I ride and I roll.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: You know what, I.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Will say something. We'll say something in Kyler's defense. You
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: know that one section where you do reveal that every
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: single surfer was carrying a big knife.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: That did throw me a little.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: I should have brought that up. Yeah, so everybody had
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: a big knife.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Why did you guys have such big knives?
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: On the one you don't know what's out in the ocean.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: It could be anything, right, So.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: So but there everybody was mad at tut for the
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: night before.
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: What are you worried that you have to protect yourself
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: from when you're.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Only that night?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just make me say some things.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: I can't think of one right now. In the water, dud,
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: have you read the wreath? There's like monsters and shit,
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: there could be anything. And I've seen giant tuna. Have
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: you ever seen a sunfish? A sole at Gargantuan.
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: Anywhere?
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of sunfish.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I made a documentary on nets and I filmed a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: lot of sunfish getting trapped in them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: You know, nets are very versatile.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: Gotta ask you.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I find that you you I've looked at your catalog
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: of films before this round table I did too, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I noticed you don't act with the humans a lot.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: You love things and like just like stuff.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: You know who has loves things? Humans? We're surrounded by
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: things right now. This table is a thing. That ring
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: is a thing. Those earrings are things.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Humans, if not interested in each other, are interested in things.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: That's all we are. There were people that like things.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: We're Ariel, we're Aerial. From the little mermaid holding on hoo'sy.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: What's it? That's a fork, you know what I mean?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: And the fish part of her doesn't like the fork.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: It's the human part of her that likes the fork.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Whoa how do you know that? Though? Well, it could
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: be the fish part that likes the fork.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Fishes don't like forks.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: Fish.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Every fish I've seen in the ocean love shiny things.
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: Absurd. A fish has absolutely no use for a fork.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: Aial is a.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Girl in the movie has no use for a fork either.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: Okay, she's a frickin mermaid. She likes it because it's shiny.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: That's because she is a girl on the inside.
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: She was born in the wrong body.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Guys, I don't want to come to blows here. Okay,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: let's not get let's not get a breast like.
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: My documentary mine too.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I actually did see your trailer for your documentary. I
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: thought it was insane. You really when you say you
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: exposed these kids. Dang man, these kids were ruthless to
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: each other.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: They were they really mean.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I was surprised how often they just dosed each other.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're calling swat all.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: Matthew should not have been dosed in the way.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: He was a huge community of bands that hate the
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: way Matthew was treated by the school principal.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: So yeah, the principal docksed him, spread all of his
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: information online, and then I think your community was the
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: one that turned on him. The craziest scene when during
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: the race that one kid gets swatted and the the
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: the boats drive up. I thought that was a great trailer.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought, thank you so much.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: I appreciate it.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Well that that competition they go to in Costa Rica
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: is huge and you guys ever find yourself chasing a
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: story and you are you are in the biggest steaks
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: you can feel and you don't have any say in
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: these stakes.
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: You don't know what they're doing.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Like I was like, wow, it feels like the tension
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: is so high and I don't know what the fuck's
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: going on, you know what I mean?
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: You just couldn't understand it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: When they said she kept branking breaking her ankle, I
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: was like, what is that?
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: And they went the anchor?
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Is there other any other terms? You just didn't get
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: because it's been three years or four years?
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've been on sea with these kiddos for
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: so long and I'm barely understanding c words.
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: Uh, there's rang them in?
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: What does that mean?
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: Rang them in means do you want some water?
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: See? That doesn't add up for me.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: So it's a questions.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: You want some?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Sure? Do I say yes?
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: If you'd like?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: There isn't like a sailing term for yes.
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: No, you say yes or no?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, anyway, it's just crazy. These kiddo's crazy anyway.
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: Did you get.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Close to any of your subjects? That's the big documentary
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: in question. Wow it it's the line, right do you
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: do you step over into getting to know the people
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that you're following. It's very important that you keep a partial,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: impartial view.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: Did you get to know the bats at all? Oh? Yeah?
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: Do you have any weird things?
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I still maintained that the bats were a minor part
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: of the documentary.
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: Okay, so but I got to know myself very well.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Wow, Like how Well, that's an interesting question, Augusta, right,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: because you're the subject, but you don't want to get
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: too close to this subjects.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I do get close to yourself.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: What did you learn?
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I had to establish boundaries between myself. I could not
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: talk to myself for more than two hours a day,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: or else I would be getting too close to the
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: subject and the movie would be compromised.
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  Speaker 6: What did you do all day?
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: You were the lead at your movie.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: If you if you examined the footage, I was sort
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: of pacing back and forth, singing great American show tunes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and occasionally occasionally swatting away a beat.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: I feel like most of the dime you especially at
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: night when they would get hungry, it was a lot
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: of swat Also, I just cannot I have to dive deeper.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: You just cut to you learning how to drive.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: It was just one of the hardest cuts I've ever seen,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: just by yourself in a car.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: You've made a glass container out of the car. You
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: desperately learning how to.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Clearly in a snowy parking lot in winter.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I did escape the glass tube for just a moment,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: the box became a tube, became a parking lot, became
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: a man learning.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: So I guess, like, was the box like maybe the
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: perception of what yourself you thought you were.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: At No, that part was a box.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: The rest of the movie was me trying to figure
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: out who I am?
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: What did you figure out?
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I figured out that I I'm a wonderful singer.
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: What a loving father.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: You have kids? Oh?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I forgot.
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: My favorite part was when you sang don't rate on my.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Parade to get the bats out of the way in
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: front of the camera.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: That was actually really crazy because I was just has
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to be staged. Because they all slapped themselves up against
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the back of the glass.
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: It's because they were so impressed. It was not the
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: smell of my mouth.
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think anyone else smelling your mouth.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Yea, we were so crossed out by the smell of
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: your mouth they slammed up against the glass walls.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm sorry.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: I've been told by certain people at this table that
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I reek so part of me suspected that the animals
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: were angry, did not enjoy the smell. But no, they
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: were just overcome by the power by the vigor of
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: my alto voice.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: You know, you know what he sounds like. I've been
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: trying to figure it out.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: He sounds like, uh, like one of those eight C
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: units or heater units in a hotel room that you
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: don't it just starts.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: You turn it on and you're like, oh, I didn't
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: know it was gonna make all that noise. I'm trying
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: to get to sleep.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: See, I was gonna say.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: He sounded like you know in Hollywood, when you're walking
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: and it goes.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: Weight that man not speak of him? Whoa.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: My father recorded the weight voice on a telegram telegram.
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: He wrote it down, he is it off, that's your father,
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: and then spoken aloud. It was him, the guy at
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: the crosswalk that goes white and Antonio.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah you did.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: You did a forty part documentary about.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: It on telegrams. Yeah, yes, as I learned a lot
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: about that. He was really really talented.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Forty part telegram doc what I used to watch to
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: go to sleep.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: It's the only footage I have of my father.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: You're not joking me, Ah, you do.
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: You take it as a compliment?
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: What's wrong joking? Why would I joke you I love sleep.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't understand that anyone could sleep during it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: There's so many interesting parts.
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you sleep after because they wind you.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I thought it's just you got the most suit.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: Can you just do a little excerpt of your voice
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: that you talk in when you do your documentaries, because
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: honestly just knocks me out.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah I could. I could as long as as
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: long as you guys listen to it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: Oh, will you document what happened here today?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I could do that with your voice?
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: On a nice summer day, four talented documentarians walked into
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: a studio and they started talking about their lives. They
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: used their microphones, They sat on chairs, they put their
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: hands on tables, and they drank from glasses. They had microphones.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, let your turn. You know, I figured it out.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: It's not your vocal tone, but it's the pauses you
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: take in the middle of each word.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm not offended by that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, here's my take on what happened here today.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Oh, he's your docmandary voice.
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: Gega, I'm gonna document what happened today.
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: We four people, one dream, my life.
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: What's suck wi.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: You Oh, the guy on the left making the posters,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: the Augustus surfer murderer, the big story.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: That was in a documentary at all.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: That's fascinating because we never heard you narrate in the
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Netflix dock and this scene is quite the eye opening experience.
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: That's just showing you that there's different styles. That's the
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: style of the Netflix docu series.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: So how would you narrate today's events?
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Four men enter, four men leave, changed?
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: The bats? The bats?
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: The bats. The bats don't rain on my parade?
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Deep alto.
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: Incredible. You just love to add bats to everything you do.
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: But we ask about that.
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: I don't even remember saying that.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: No it you said, all right, all right, So it's
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: just like my documentary. Here we go.
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: Imagine you are wake up and you go surfing, and
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: then you're invited to do a podcast and when you
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: show up, one person is off, but you don't know
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: who and it could even be you. Let's hope this
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: gets solved.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: It's time. So yeah, that's basically, do you script it
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: when you do it? No, we go, we just shoot
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: the ship. Can I take a lot of suggestions, take
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: a lot of.
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: Guys, what's next? On your docket? What do you make it?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm really excited to announce it. Everyone in my
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: discord has been asking, everyone has been clamoring for what
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I could possibly be doing next.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: So what's the next thing? What's the next thing? And
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: it's not a thing?
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: A type of food?
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: Huh? Okay, aoli?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Garnishes.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, I couldn't do it. I told you I couldn't
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: do it. Aoli, it's too complex. I don't know how
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: to cry.
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: Song is the garnish doc.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be seventy five parts our each because garnishes
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and we're I don't want to spoil it, but garnishes
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: technically go back thousands of years.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: That does make sense to me. It feels like any
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: food would have a garnish at any point in time.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: But why and how?
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Because they're good?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Garnishes are good.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, garnishes.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: You sound like a fourteen hundreds person. Garnishes in eighteen
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: hundreds reviled garnishes in the nineteen hundreds.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Parsley mostly.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Sorry, that's how I treat my wife.
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: I was gonna say, lady kitty must love that.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: My lady kitty likes for me to do that.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: So what do you have two decks?
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: I am going back into the box. No, don't do that,
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: not for a movie. This one's just for me.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I'm going to hang out in there with a couple
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: of my furry friends.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: What kind of animal?
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: M small?
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, sort of flutter flutter, guys, he wants to say, bats,
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: kind of a dark color.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: If you like bats, like yourself?
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: What kind of bat?
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: I am in love with the bats. There I said it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: I love bats. I refuse to hide any longer.
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: Finally, it feels so good.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: I'm going to make a bat movie next and I'm
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: going to be proud of it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Batman.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: No, okay, please tell us Skyler Biler.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: Well, actually this is crazy.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: After the success of my surfing movie, they reached out
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: and I'm going to the front of war. They're putting
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: me on the front lines to make a war documentary.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Front of War, the Front of War, A lot of people.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: There's guys called this documentary company called Front of War,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: and they send all these guys to the front of war.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: And basically I'm gonna do a doc like a true
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: crime mystery. Who killed the people at the front of War?
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Interesting?
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I know it seems obvious.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: It seems obvious the bat, the other guys, the other
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: guys that are against him.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: But you never know, you know.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: So you think someone's about to kill someone, and then
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: another guy's gonna sneak up and step.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: All I'm saying is you never know. You gotta look
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: deep into these things. And then after that, we're going
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: on this hunting trip to uh try to hunt a
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: shark for some reason.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think film that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: No, that's kind of a personal thing.
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: No, that sounds good.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: No, I don't want to film that.
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: That sounds good.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: That sounds good, That sounds gloring as hell, us all
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: training to hunt a shark that may kill it, have
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: killed our friend.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Oh that sounds good.
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: And maybe film you guys surfing holding knives while you're
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: at it, because that.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Sounds so Oh, I film that. You guys can check
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: that out. It's it's surfing ninjas dot com. Oh wow,
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: just freaking thousands of hours of us doing on surfboards.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's awesome.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: What about you?
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Let's do next thing?
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm we're of course doing season three of Sales
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: and I'm also doing, uh, there is a toddler playplace
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: that has a little you know those ballpins with a
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: bunch of balls. The kids are getting really competitive with
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: the balls, the toddlers are, So we're going to follow
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: them to an area of Florida ju Jupiter, Florida, uh,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: where they bring all these toddlers together and they see
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: who could chuck the fastest ball.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: WHOA I heard about this. This is called get more stupider, right?
• 45:10
  Speaker 8: Uh no, that's that's my other process.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: They go to Jupiter to get more stupid.
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, Netflix is sending you to space.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Oh I mean Netflix is sending me everywhere where there's
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: a competition and a kid willing.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: To cry, And that's space too.
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you better believe it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: They got middle schoolers up there that want to make
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: it to my athletes so badly.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: Do you guys really think my friend was killed by
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: a shark?
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: Man, release the bats?
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: What?
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: This has been artists on artists on artists on artists,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: answering the question. Now, that's why they call it show business.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Good Night Hollywood.
• 45:51
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