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Joint practice takeaways + roster competition | Jags Drive Time: Thursday, August 25 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack's Drive To with Ashman Sullam song with
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  Speaker 1: he let it go. There's nobody over there. Let's be
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  Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers a week three of the pre season.
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  Speaker 1: A perfect game to make him up. Just a lot
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  Speaker 1: of yelling going on. Welcome to Jaguars Drive Time on
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  Speaker 1: a Thursday morning here for joint practice in Atlanta, Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton and special guests Hall of Famer Tony Basely.
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  Speaker 1: I was told I had to call you that for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of my life. That I'm fine with unapologetically,
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  Speaker 1: always authentically Tony BASSELLI. By the way, I believe you're
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  Speaker 1: making your Drivetime debut. You're you're more of an afternoon guy, right,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who that your sleep pattern or not. Um,
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  Speaker 1: love it. Um, it's very nice. I mean Ashly and
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  Speaker 1: I do a Monday thing together for the UK breakdown.
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  Speaker 1: Never never d I've been waiting too, but yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's an exclusive and you can pretty much check everything
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  Speaker 1: off of your box as far as the NFL is concerned. Now,
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  Speaker 1: all right, it is our last day of joint practice
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  Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcon before we get ready for the
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  Speaker 1: last preseason game the Saturday. So let's get into big things.
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  Speaker 1: Big thing one is a grasp on this offense. Today
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  Speaker 1: will be the last time we see Trevor Lawrence and
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  Speaker 1: really and any of these starters on a football field
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  Speaker 1: before it's for real in the regular season. So where
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  Speaker 1: is the quarterback right now? With the offense? I really
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  Speaker 1: like where I'm at. I think as far as offense goes,
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  Speaker 1: I feel really comfortable, feeling more and more confident each day, UM,
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  Speaker 1: and just feel really good with where I'm at with
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  Speaker 1: all the receivers, tight ends, running backs and then protection.
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  Speaker 1: Our communication, especially me and Luke is getting really really
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  Speaker 1: good and we're on the same page more and more. So,
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  Speaker 1: just I have a lot of confidence in that group
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  Speaker 1: up front, and I love where we're at. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've said it before, it's about getting better every week.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see, you know where we're at in a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks. Big thing too, is Devin Lloyd update the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars cut up with the linebacker here at the team
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  Speaker 1: hotel yesterday, only coming off his second practice after that
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  Speaker 1: hamstring injury, and he's saying he's seeing the game differently
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  Speaker 1: now that he's been on the sidelines all of training camp.
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  Speaker 1: This injury, UM kind of was a blessing in disguise.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I took a lot of things from it,
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  Speaker 1: and it allowed me to see the game from a
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  Speaker 1: coach's perspective. UM, you know, on the sideline. While I
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  Speaker 1: was out, I knew I wasn't playing, so I had
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  Speaker 1: to watch all them and really study um but the
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  Speaker 1: backers in the offense. So it helped me get a
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  Speaker 1: different perspective. UM. So that was huge as far as
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  Speaker 1: my mental game, and I don't really feel I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: if anything, um, that helped me elevate my game. I
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  Speaker 1: know I wasn't out there, so physically it's a little different,
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  Speaker 1: but um, I feel like mentally I'm as sharp as
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  Speaker 1: you know I could be. And Big Thing three as
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  Speaker 1: a security blink. Get linebacker foy A Loui Koon coming
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  Speaker 1: back to Atlanta this week where he was traded from
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  Speaker 1: the Falcons, and we don't talk enough about this guy
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  Speaker 1: who led the league and tackles last season. Defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: Mike Codwell is glad he's in Jacksonville. Signal caller that
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  Speaker 1: everyone looks to that can get make everybody comfortable. He
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  Speaker 1: does that for us on defense. He's came in learning
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  Speaker 1: the system, learn a new terminology, and he's been the
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  Speaker 1: guy out there getting guys lined up, and he'd like
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  Speaker 1: a security blanket. He's comfortable with the system and he
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  Speaker 1: allowed everybody else to go out there and be comfortable also.
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  Speaker 1: And there you have it. Those are big things. I
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  Speaker 1: want to go back up to Big Thing too, which
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  Speaker 1: is Devin Lloyd. He came off his second practice first
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  Speaker 1: with the Land of Falcons, in a joint practice, got
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  Speaker 1: a ton of reps yesterday, was flying all over the field.
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  Speaker 1: We spoke to him yesterday afternoon. He was truthful and admitted,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really sore right now. And you saw him. He
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  Speaker 1: definitely seems sore. Earlier this week. I thought, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: Tony he'll play in the game. He needs game action.
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  Speaker 1: Now I hesitate because if he is sort, do you
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  Speaker 1: want to risk it this week? Well, what kind of
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  Speaker 1: what kind of store are we talking about? If it's
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  Speaker 1: hamstring soreness to the injury, then you want to back
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  Speaker 1: it off. I mean, you gotta make sure you don't
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  Speaker 1: really aggravate that. Anyone who's had a hamstring I was
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  Speaker 1: never fast enough to have a hamstrings or didn't didn't
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  Speaker 1: That was one thing I had to worry about. But
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  Speaker 1: that can linger. If you don't let that fully heal,
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  Speaker 1: you'll find yourself in week three, week four and so
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  Speaker 1: on and so forth still not. And so if it's
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  Speaker 1: that kind of sore to back off, if it's just
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  Speaker 1: general football stort nous, heck, no damn game, because you
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  Speaker 1: have to work through that. We all have that. Every
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  Speaker 1: guy in this team. The first week of two days
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  Speaker 1: actually no more two days of camp, I should say,
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  Speaker 1: when the pads are on, you're like, oh, I forgot
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  Speaker 1: what this feels like. And that's part of the process.
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  Speaker 1: So it all depends what sort of we're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: If you would have watched him chase down Artrell Hawkins
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  Speaker 1: in you might have worried about his camps. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: you move fast, Um, Tony, I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen a linebacker in Jacksonville run like he does. And
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  Speaker 1: that's saying something because Telvin Smith was fast and Miles
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  Speaker 1: jack could really run, and because Lesnie was no slouch
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  Speaker 1: as well. But watching Devin Lloyd run is like watching
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  Speaker 1: a gazelle. I mean he's he's made to move like.
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  Speaker 1: He's fast and instinctive. Yeah, I would I think he
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  Speaker 1: moved like Kelvin Smith, but he's big. He Telvin Smith
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  Speaker 1: was two ten after putting weights in his pockets and
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  Speaker 1: everything else, now he could fly. He was like, it's
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  Speaker 1: safety back. There you have Devin Lloyd who has safety
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  Speaker 1: speed and agility to move around, but then he has
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  Speaker 1: the size of a linebacker. I love to pick when
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  Speaker 1: they made it. Um. If you are a fan of
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  Speaker 1: Pack twelve football, see you know that guy was dominant,
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  Speaker 1: and he has a chance to do something now for
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  Speaker 1: us well with all the great defensive players up the
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  Speaker 1: road at that way in Gainesville and that way in
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  Speaker 1: tesscal Loosea. Last year he was the Associated Plus College
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  Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. He's that He's that good.
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  Speaker 1: He's a special player. If he would have probably played
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  Speaker 1: somewhere beside Utah or played in the SEC, everyone in
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  Speaker 1: the nation would have known this guy's name. Because he
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: played on the West coast. They play at eleven o'clock
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  Speaker 1: back on the East coast. A lot of people missed it.
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  Speaker 1: So we need him healthy. I mean, he will be
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  Speaker 1: the starting UH linebacker next to a Lucan. But you
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  Speaker 1: gotta be smart with the hamstring. So I go back
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  Speaker 1: to what kind of soreness is he feeling. If it's
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  Speaker 1: hamstring soreness, take it easy. If it's not, get him
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  Speaker 1: in there. He needs reps, reps his talent as he is,
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  Speaker 1: he's still going from the college game to the program,
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  Speaker 1: right and that's a big jump. And so um, he'll
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  Speaker 1: be fine. I mean I did the same thing my
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  Speaker 1: workie year, missed all of camp with an injury or
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  Speaker 1: early after Day ten. Worst three games. Actually, day ten
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  Speaker 1: in camp now would be almost finished. That was literally
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  Speaker 1: like the second week Rember. But I missed everything, missed
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  Speaker 1: preseason and got thrown into the regular season on a
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  Speaker 1: Sunday night football game. And if you can play this game,
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  Speaker 1: you can play it. And I was fine, He'll be fine,
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  Speaker 1: I believe because I think he's that good. But reps
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  Speaker 1: always help young guy. Is he gonna get John Jones
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  Speaker 1: and Reggie White in his first game? Yeah, you were
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  Speaker 1: a little sore the next day. I was thankful that
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  Speaker 1: Reggie White stayed on the other side of that game,
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  Speaker 1: but Sean Jones was enough for me to hand. And
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  Speaker 1: I was very sore the next day. And uh, Tom
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  Speaker 1: was not worried about my sword, and as he didn't care.
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  Speaker 1: I remember, I remember saying to him, you think Tony's
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  Speaker 1: gonna play? He cared about anything but winning. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: God bless him for that. All right, let's go back
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  Speaker 1: up to big thing one, which is Trevor Lawrence in
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  Speaker 1: the grass. But this offense is the last time we'll
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  Speaker 1: see the start is on the field until it really
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  Speaker 1: counts and weak once. This is really Trevor's last day
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  Speaker 1: to put the final touches on this. I love his
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  Speaker 1: honesty where he says, I've really been focusing on that
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  Speaker 1: interception ratio, the turnovers. Where do you think he is
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  Speaker 1: right now? Well, I think he's progressing. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: still think there's certain situations we see in the preseason
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  Speaker 1: where it should be an easy throw and he's just
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  Speaker 1: his feet aren't perfect. He just gets a little rushed,
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  Speaker 1: all fixable. Not worry about it, because then you watches
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  Speaker 1: he gets comfortable as the game has been going on
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason, and he makes throws that very few
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  Speaker 1: guys in this league can make. Um. Now, this will
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  Speaker 1: be the last before the preseason, but let's not forget
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  Speaker 1: he has two weeks of practice. There's a lot that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be done, and he'll get maybe more reps than
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  Speaker 1: he has this entire camp because now it's the once.
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  Speaker 1: All that matters is getting that first unit ready to go,
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  Speaker 1: which obviously is Trevor Lawrence. I saw him this morning
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  Speaker 1: getting coffee. I love the guy's energy. He is like focused,
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  Speaker 1: he knows what he wants to do, he knows what
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  Speaker 1: the job is. Um, I'm expecting a big year. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what does that mean? Does that mean all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden he's gonna be you know, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 1: don't worry about that. I see great progression where you are.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to put this team on his
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  Speaker 1: back in the sense of like I'm the leader, I'm
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  Speaker 1: the guy because he's functioning in a real offense right now.
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  Speaker 1: And the interesting thing, and he said it, I think
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  Speaker 1: we'll be fun to watch this year. You have him
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  Speaker 1: second year quarterback, coming off a tough year because of
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  Speaker 1: the situation, the organization, and you have a rookie center Luke.
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  Speaker 1: For those two working together, we might have the making
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: of a marriage and hopefully last for a decade. Or
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: if you're starting center your franchise quarterback on the same page,
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: go ask Indianapolis how that worked. That's right where I
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  Speaker 1: was going and that that was a phenomenal pairing. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: just get people understanding of why would a young quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: especially one is seasoned in the college game, and as
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  Speaker 1: as Trevor was, why might he be a little uptight?
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  Speaker 1: What was the term that Doug used, He needs to
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  Speaker 1: settle down a little bit. What causes a young quarterback
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  Speaker 1: to rush things not have his technique solid? Especially I
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: think it's any position. When you're player heck, I mean
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: as a veteran player, you get in the game those
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  Speaker 1: adrenaline early, and when you're you have that adrenaline flowing.
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  Speaker 1: As an offensive lineman, you can go take it out
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  Speaker 1: on the guy. I mean, you just that's what you're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to do. As a quarterback, You've got to be
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  Speaker 1: calm and let everything kind of come to you, and
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  Speaker 1: you start trying to press it or rush things. The footwork,
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  Speaker 1: So I think rushing it is the probably the best
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  Speaker 1: explanation because your foot footwork is so important on your accuracy,
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  Speaker 1: and so if all of a sudden he sees it
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  Speaker 1: and you can tell he saw things early, but then
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  Speaker 1: he tries to rush it there instead of just taking
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  Speaker 1: your time to your technique. And I think Doug explained
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  Speaker 1: it perfectly. He just has to calm down, take a
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: deep breath. Because if you look at those preseason games,
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  Speaker 1: he played the third drive of each game, he calmed down,
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  Speaker 1: and he was hot, and he was accurate, and he
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: was making great throws, and they had these great drives
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  Speaker 1: put together. It was the first two drives of each
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  Speaker 1: of each game where he was inaccurate miss guys that
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: are open and that's just it's not nerves, it's just relaxing,
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  Speaker 1: letting the game come to you. You You don't have to
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  Speaker 1: do everything right away, see it, do your footwork, deliver
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  Speaker 1: the ball, because the talents there, I mean, that's not
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  Speaker 1: a question. It's not a question whether he has the
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  Speaker 1: arm strength, or the athletic ability or the brain. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just a young player taking your time, let
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: the game come to you right and we see it
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  Speaker 1: on the third drive for every preseason game. It happens.
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  Speaker 1: It clicks all right, and not as big things when
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: we come back. More of Tony Basselli's impressions of the
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: preseason coming up on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: to Jaguars Drive Time on a Thursday. We are alive
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  Speaker 1: from Georgia, getting ready for another joint practice with the
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: Falcons ahead of a preseason game, the last one of
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  Speaker 1: this season. We're back with Brian Sexton and Tony Basselli's
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  Speaker 1: special guests on Drive Time today, and we have lots
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  Speaker 1: of questions. I guess you could say, really the only
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  Speaker 1: question left of this final roster is where the right
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  Speaker 1: tackle position is. Where this battle we've been talking about
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: for months we're so ready for an answer so we
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: can stop talking about it. Who do you think the
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: guy is? I think it's Joan Taylor. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: think Jowan to won the job. I think if you
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  Speaker 1: look at the last two weeks he is he's played
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  Speaker 1: better and I think he went and took the job.
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  Speaker 1: And I would expect sometime after the last preseason game
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  Speaker 1: going into prep for the Commanders that Doug Peterson will
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  Speaker 1: say that he's our right tackle, and early it was
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  Speaker 1: Walker Little. Well, what changed is Juwan Taylor got healthy
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: um and I think Walker Little took a step I'm
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: wanna say step backwards, but didn't get didn't continue to
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  Speaker 1: compete and get better. And when Juan got out there,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: it was clear that Juwan is more prepared in the
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: better player right now. As far as who are you
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: gonna trust it right tackle? And I don't think Walker
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  Speaker 1: had a great day yesterday against the Falcons. That doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean that he can't and it doesn't mean that you gosh,
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  Speaker 1: what a failure of a second round pick and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Forget about that. He's gonna be your swing tackle. He's
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: a guy who can play right or left. It gives
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  Speaker 1: you some confidence that something happens to either tackle. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we have a capable guy coming in. But the reality
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  Speaker 1: is Walker Little has a talent. He is physical, he's
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  Speaker 1: it athletic. I mean, he has all the makings to
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  Speaker 1: be a really good right, right, or left tackle. But
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  Speaker 1: now he's gonna go do it. He's gotta go take it.
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  Speaker 1: He's got to take that next step. He has to
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  Speaker 1: learn to finish blocks, he has to learn to be
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  Speaker 1: more physical and to have The best way I can
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  Speaker 1: describe it is have an urgency about yourself every play
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes you know, watching our tackle plays like you
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  Speaker 1: don't sense that, like every play matters. And I think
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  Speaker 1: you know. It's gonna be a great lesson for Walker Little,
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  Speaker 1: and I hope he learns from it because it will
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  Speaker 1: make him a better player to the right side, slow
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  Speaker 1: his progress at all. Could you imagine having to go
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  Speaker 1: to the right side in college? I played both in
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  Speaker 1: the game, so the side doesn't matter. Not to me.
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  Speaker 1: I I've never bought that if you're a good athlete
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  Speaker 1: and you're talented, you can play either side. I mean
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  Speaker 1: at s C we had a week and strong tackle
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  Speaker 1: and you we flipped based on the play. So first
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  Speaker 1: down I could be right tackle, second be left tackle.
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  Speaker 1: I mean back and forth. Now I'm not saying that's
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  Speaker 1: ideal either, but that's how we used to do it
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  Speaker 1: in my first few years at usc UM. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't buy that because I saw similar things from him
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  Speaker 1: at the left side last year. Whether it's technique, camp placement,
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  Speaker 1: more than anything, it's just finish. It's because he looks
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  Speaker 1: so good, he does so many good things, but then
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  Speaker 1: at the point of contact or just late in the play,
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  Speaker 1: there's just not that finish. And uh, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: he's a young player and he's gonna have to learn
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  Speaker 1: from that. He's he's got to learn to do that
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  Speaker 1: if he wants to be effective at this level. Well,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: it's a great problem to have for the jag Wars.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like you have all these great options. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you can never have too many offensive linement. This this
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  Speaker 1: is a league that you know, everyone talks about the
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  Speaker 1: skill set, skill positions, what receiver, running back, quarterback, all
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  Speaker 1: the pass rushers and everything else like that. The reality
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  Speaker 1: is this, there's only so many big athletic human beings
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  Speaker 1: on planet Earth. There's just not that many, and so
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  Speaker 1: you better go find the ones and then you're asking
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  Speaker 1: to do something that's super unnatural. It's you know, physically.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's one of the hardest positions to play
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  Speaker 1: in sports because you're asking these big athletic men to
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  Speaker 1: go block bigger and more athletic people and react to them.
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  Speaker 1: And so you can't have too many of those guys
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  Speaker 1: who can do it, and you have to complain space.
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  Speaker 1: That's the key. That's the big difference between guard and tackle.
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  Speaker 1: Certain guys struggle in space and that's why they become guards.
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  Speaker 1: And there's some really good guards in the league that
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  Speaker 1: you know at tackle, they struggle in that space and
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: trying to move around and anchor and and uh and
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: do that. And so when you find guys who can
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: hold onto him. And what about Ben Bart's it seems
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: like at first it was a competition, but truthfully, I
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: think they always wanted Barts to be the guy, and
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: now he seems to be the guy. Well, he is
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: the guy. I think they wanted him to go earn it,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, and that's right, Tyler Shatley
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: deserved the opportunity to be the starter. He's veteran, you know,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: respect what he's done. He's played all three positions, you know, interior,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: offensive line. Don't give it to Ben Bart's see what
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: he has inside of him. Can he go compete? Can
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: he go take the job into his credit? He did,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Now he has a ways to go. He still has
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: gotta work. He has some things that um you worry
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: about the times. My biggest is his feet stop and
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: he gets a little straight legged in the past sometimes
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: and then he loses guys late, but he has gotten
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: better each year. I give him credit. He can tell
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: he's worked on it. You can tell it's important. And
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: he does have a little bit of an edge to him,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: little nastiness, and I like that about him. So and
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Shatley gives you that confidence because you know that you
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: have a guy, especially at that center position, if something
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: happened to the rookie or you know whatever, you feel
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: confident that you can put him in. That's where you're
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: most confident with. Shatley is a guard I mean, excuse me,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: that's center. Just because of his length at guard with
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: big defensive tackles, he can get overwhelmed a little bit
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: just from the uh length side of it. But he's
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: a valuable part of this team and he's been here
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: a long time, and it seems like early in his career,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: we're trying to cut him every time, every every camp,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: like let's get rid of him, and he just said,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: you can't. I'm too important. And that's why I love
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley and I love that he's on this team.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: And I think he's also the strongest guy in the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: locker room. And he oh, he's a ridiculous number. Oh
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: he is so strong. He is so powerful. If you
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: if he gets your his hands on you and you
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: get in his phone booth, it's it's it's over. Um.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: He But yeah, he's a good football player and he's
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be He's been playing I portant role on this team.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: You know, let's hope all five guys stay healthy the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: whole time. With Brian. You've been covering this team since
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: ninety five. That doesn't happen very often. I can't remember
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the last time it happened, to be honest with you,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: especially up front. You see the injuries around the league.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: The Jets lose their starting right tackle, McKay Peckton. The
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: word out of Dallas is Tyron Smith, the left tackle,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: five time Pro Bowler, is down. I mean you're talking
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: about key positions you can't replace. If the Jaguars were
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: to lose one of their tackles, what a blessing to
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: have a guy like Walker Little. Yeah. No, there's no
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: doubt about it, um because the Cowboys, by the way,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: don't have that, don't have that. Young Now you're trying
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: to figure ot who you're gonn put it left and listen.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Cam is the best offensive lineman, I mean, best tackle
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: on this team. He's he was the best offensive alignment
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: last year. Brandon Sheriff has taken that role. But those
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: are two really good players, Sheriff and All Pro guy.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I think Cam has the potential to be that type
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: of player. He's got to do some things to take
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: his game to the next level. So you don't want
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to lose your top end players. But to Brian's point,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: it's nice to have a little bit of comfort, like
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: if something happens, we have a good, strong guy and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: walk a little to rotate. You got Shotley at center
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and interested. I can't even think of the kid's name.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: We just traded for land Van Land. I was watching
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: tape on him this morning a little bit. He's interesting.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I think he's a he's a good player. I like
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: that trade. Everyone's like why would you try, and like, well,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: because you need depth. I think this team has a
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: lack of depth across the roster. Um. You don't know
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: what's going on with will Richardson with the ankle. Right.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: By the way, the kid they traded for, it wasn't
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: all big ten left tackle at Wisconsin, so it wasn't
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: like he hasn't played the position. Now he's moved into guard.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: By the way, Brandon Sheriff did the exact same thing.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: All big ten left tackle at Iowa moves inside. Five
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: time pro bowler. I'm telling this kid this, what's his
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: name again, Cole van Lander, I'm gonna call him Cole
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Cole uh. Watching him on tape, I like it what
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I saw yesterday. He has some he has some length,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and you can tell that he played he did play
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: tackle Wisconsin. So I love the trade. Adds depth. We
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: need depth on this team. Um. Looking forward to the
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: regular season, you know, when you have Tony on, it's
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be great content. But you're gonna go way over
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: we always do. Talking is never our problem. Stopping no,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I think you know, economy of words is not something
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I'm good at and there's three that you have to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: add at the end of Yes, we'll bite you back.
• 19:28
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• 19:31
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• 19:38
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• 19:41
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• 19:44
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• 19:46
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• 19:50
  Speaker 1: gladly defer to the Hall of Famer. He suddenly got
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: smarter in August. By the way, Yeah, he's killing it.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Batman's got some good takes about the offensive lines, like
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: he knows something well. I was. I was intrigued. I
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: thought that Walker Little was gonna win that job. All
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: the day on he was gonna win that job. And uh,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I was fascinated by Tony's comments. I hadn't thought that
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it was that clear cut. But I'll refer to the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Yes, seems like John Taylor is the guy.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: As we get ready for Week one against the Commanders
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: at this time, for he will he won't. He might
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: presented by a set of getting ready for this last
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: preseason game, Brian, I'm gonna go with Devin Lloyd because
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: we saw him on the practice field yesterday and he
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: will plug in and be your opening day started. There's
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. The guy was made to run.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I mean at two pounds, he looks effortless. Even though
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: he hadn't had any reps on the practice field, he
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: understood what was going on. And again the story about
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: how much tape he watches, how much time he spends
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: trying to master the game plan and Noah's opponent, it
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: was clear that he was ready for practice yesterday. So
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: he'll start an opening day. Um, he won't struggle. I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: missing and Tony. Tony talked about this by missing almost
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: all of training camp. He's in the guy just I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: think people will be excited about him. Let someone go
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: right to the mite, right. They might be as excited
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: about him mid season as they are about Trayvon Walker
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: because he has the opportunity. He's not as big, right,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: not as imposing, But watching him yesterday you get the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: sense he's going to be all around the ball. And
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: remember he had eight sacks. He had four interceptions to
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: return for touchdowns. A handful of fumbles for us, a
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: handful of fumbles recovered. Uh, he might be a guy
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: who gets more attention by the time the season is
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: over because his numbers, John I think are gonna be
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: quite flashy. Yeah. I think Lloyd is the guy who
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: um the defense up front seems solid, stout everything you want.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get pass rush because they're gonna
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: stop the run. I think that's gonna have the trigger
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: effect that coaches believe it has. But outside of Josh Allen,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know that what was coming back had a
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: whole lot of special above the exs and o's ability
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I made Trayvon Walker has that. I don't know that
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: he's gonna show that that much his rookie year. I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: think he'll continue to show that as he gets older.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: To me, Devon Lloyd, I mean, Devin Lloyd is the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: guy who can come in, make plays behind the line
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage, make interceptions. He's got a chance, I know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: if it's the first month throughout the course of this
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: season to make this defense special above the exs and nose,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: he could be your Sports Center highlight guy. Absolutely. And
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: we're wondering now if he's going to play on Saturday
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: in the preseason. Truthfully, after seeing him yesterday after our
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: interview with Jaguars dot Com, I gravitate towards no seeing
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: him in the preseason. But that doesn't matter as long
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: as he's ready for Week one, which he said he
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: will be. John, I've got to think he plays Saturday,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: But I agree with Tony. If it's not the hamstring
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and he has to be out there, I'm going with
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Luke Fordner. Uh, the center. He will obviously be the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: story order this year. I don't know that that was
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: assumed in the offseason, but it was clear coming into
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: training camp. This coaching staff knew that he was the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: right guy they drafted in to be that guy. There
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: was not gonna be any question there. Um, he might be.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry he will, he won't. He won't be a problem.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Um with the center position. Sometimes you worry as a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: rookie when you're playing. But does he know the offense?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Is he ready? Is he going to be mentally able
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: to do that job? Uh, that's the last thing you
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: worry about with this kid. From what you hear, he
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: is smart picking up the offense. Um, he might I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: have two he might Sprian because this is he will,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: he won't. He might, He might the first he might.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: He might wind up being a better center than the
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: guy he replaced. I know really early on that Brandon
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Leonard was a really good center for a long time.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: But this kid has the potential. He is better early
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people expected, and he might,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: as you guys talked about, he might end up being
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that guy like Jeff Saturday, who I covered Indianapolis forever.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Jeff was a really good physical center um, but his
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: strength was as Peyton Manning could read defenses, so could
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday. Jeff was outstanding picking up the blitz. He
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: was outstanding reading what was happening, and he could even
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: help Payton at that point. Over time. I think that's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the combination you're talking about. It's not necessarily the physical
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: ability of a center to help the quarterback. It's the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: mental ability before things get started, pre snap reads. I
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: think Luke Fordner eventually would be off the charts good
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: at that. You look at some of the great quarterbacks
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Mike Webster in front of Terry Bradshaw, Frank Winters in
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: front of Red far There are examples of those guys
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: who go through their career together. I'll say this, I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: watched him yesterday. He might be even better next year
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: when he gets a year in the weight room. So
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: he will, he won't. He might might right to the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: third power um because is a mighty good segment. Man.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: You're quick on your feet. Because I watched the Times
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: yesterday him struggle and he's a big, strong guy. Don't
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: get me wrong, but you know what guys do from
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: year one to year two when they get into that
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: weight room in that program. He's big and he's strong.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: He's learning the physical side of the game at this
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: level and just how big guys and how strong guys are,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and as good as he is mentally, he's going to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: get better and better as time goes on. When you
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: get this offense, and he'll be making calls a line
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: of scrimm mechanical engineering and a master's neurospace engineering. I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: counting on that. And he will have a great connection
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: with quarterback Trevor Lawrence, who will be on the sidelines
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: on Saturday's preseason game, and he will take a step
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: in the right direction this year. He won't be shy
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that this now means it's all on him. I keep
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: going back to last week. He's connecting the dots. He
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: won't be shy because I keep going back to last
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: week when he talked about and he stated the fact
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that's rather obvious. Yeah, the quarterback doesn't play well, we're
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: not gonna win many games. He's got the tight ends,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: he's got the receiver's got the running backs, he got
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff, he's got the organization behind him. Now
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: everything is around him. He won't be shy that, Yes,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: this is now on me to take the next step.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: He might that interception ratio that we always talked about,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: that seventeen interceptions last season that led the league. I'm
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: going to say that it might be under ten this year.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it goes away. I'm not gonna
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: say it's lower than ten. It might be under ten,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and that we take that. That's a huge step in
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the right direction for Trevor Lawrence. Oh, you definitely take that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Under ten would be a a major improvement. Uh, it's
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: tough to get under ten if you're throwing a lot,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: because you're naturally going to have won a game. You're
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: gonna have some at the end of half where you're
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: throwing it up, so that number can be very difficult
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to reach. If he's under ten, is gonna be a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: better team than I thought. What if we go back
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and count the number that are on him right because
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the tip balls, I mean, there's no delineation between a
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: ball that's erroneously tipped to a defender. If his number
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of bad throws that result in interceptions is less than ten,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: that's a win to me, absolutely, And at a lot
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: of those seven teams were taking chances in the third
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and fourth colar when the game was a So we
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: give him that as well. All right, that is, he
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: will he won't he might when we come back. Some
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: closing thoughts on Jaguars Drive Time. We're back Jaguars Drive
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Time on a Thursday for our last segment with you
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: of the week. Roster cuts are coming up on Sunday
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: through Tuesday. Have to cut it down to a fifty
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: three man roster, a lot of guys fighting for little
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: spots for this last preseason game. I'm gonna go ahead
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and make my case that Monterek Buster Brown is going
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to make this team. He's the sixth round draft pick
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: out of this last year's draft. I think the Jaguars
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: keeps six corners, Shack Griffin, Tyson Campbell, Darius Williams, Trade Herndon,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Chris Claybrooks, and Buster Brown. He's my guy. Ab Brown
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: was all sec led the league in interceptions last year.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: From the moment he got here, he felt like he belonged.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: He's been a better tackler and better run support than
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: they thought. Absolutely you got. I'm going deep to Josh Thompson,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: young safety undrafted out of Texas. The play he made
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: last week on the on the punt where he leapt
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: into the end zone and managed to knock it back
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: out and pin the deep that set up the safety.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: He has been terrific on special teams. I'm not sure
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that Daniel Thomas, who's a guy I really liked the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: last couple of years, He's gonna be able to hold
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: off a young guy. He's big at six ft nearly
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: two hundred pounds and can contribute on special teams in
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: in a big way. So I think that gives him
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: a chance to make this team. And it's easy for
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: GMS to air on the side of the young guy
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: in the battle that you're talking about. I'm gonna go
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: with quarterback d J. Perry. I don't know that that's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: uh news. He's gonna make the roster. If he doesn't
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: make the roster, he's gonna be on the practice squad.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And I think their decision is gonna be can we
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: keep this guy on the practice squad and not have
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: him claimed by somebody else. He was in high demand
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: coming out of the draft. UM. I think based on
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: what we've seen in the quarterback position that some of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the machinations they've done, they want this guy. They believe
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that he's a good project. I think they want to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: develop a quarterback. I think that's philosophically what they want
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: to do. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's on
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the Act of fifty three and you think he takes
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: it over Jake Kluton. Oh absolutely, yea, yeah, yeah, confidence, Yeah,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that's not even the question. It's more if they think
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: they can get him through on the practice squad from
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: other teams. All right, and there you have it. That
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: is our roster predictions for this cut down day coming
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: this Sunday. We have a preseason game this Saturday against
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons and the joint practice today. Stay with
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: us on jaguars dot com for all your coverage the
• 29:20
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