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Huddle Up | Mac Jones to Start in Week 11 + Matching Up Against the Lions · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Fields Total Group.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Senior writer John Oser, NFL Network analyst and former
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Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and Senior reporter JP Shatdrick bring you
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Speaker 1: the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now and it is Wednesday, November thirteenth,
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Speaker 2: Week eleven.
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Speaker 3: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. A busy show ahead.
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Speaker 2: Our final look at the Vikings Jaguars matchup last week,
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Speaker 2: another loss for the Jags, three in a row.
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Speaker 3: The first look at Jaguars Lions.
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Speaker 4: That'll be a.
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Speaker 2: Tough matchup for the Jags up at Ford Field, Detroit.
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Speaker 2: The bye week coming up next week. Wanity to get
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Speaker 2: the Honday Studios at the Miller Electric Center. Bucky Brooks
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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, Good afternoon, Bucky.
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Speaker 3: It's week A.
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Speaker 4: It is week eleven. What's up guys?
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Speaker 2: You know, hey, the Jags lost total unfortunately after last week.
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Speaker 3: It's up to eight now two and eight record.
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Speaker 2: They'll face the eight and one Detroit Lions coming up
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Speaker 2: next week. We'll get into those matchups in just a
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Speaker 2: little bit. We'll take our final look at Vikings Jaguars
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Speaker 2: coming up in just a moment as well. But the
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Speaker 2: big news today, of course, Doug Peterson speaking with the media.
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Speaker 2: First question, what's the story with Trevor Lawrence?
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Speaker 3: This week?
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Speaker 5: Trevor will be out. We just decided this week he's
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Speaker 5: getting close. But to make sure that again, you guys
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Speaker 5: know how I am with injuries. We don't want to
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Speaker 5: put a player out there that's not one hundred percent.
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Speaker 5: So we're gonna We're gonna rest in one more week.
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Speaker 2: All right, one more week at least, So the bye
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Speaker 2: week we'll see what happens there, Bucky. And so Mac
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Speaker 2: Jones gets another chance at quarterback this week in Detroit.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mac Jones.
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Speaker 6: Should be much better in his second start. Part of
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Speaker 6: that is net he's had like real game experience with
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Speaker 6: this team. He should have a better understanding of the
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Speaker 6: rhythm and the cadence of the crew that he's with,
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Speaker 6: and he has to play better. I think Mac is
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Speaker 6: a profable player. He certainly wants to back up. I mean,
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Speaker 6: he wants to bounce back and make a make amends
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Speaker 6: for the look, the turnovers and just the way that
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Speaker 6: he performed against the Vikings.
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Speaker 4: So you hope that, look, he's a he's been a
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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl player.
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Speaker 6: You hope that he's able to bounce back and play
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Speaker 6: much better than he played on Sunday.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's uh, we didn't see much in terms of
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Speaker 7: downfield from Mac. I thought Doug's comments after the game
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Speaker 7: were sort of showed the story of it, meaning the
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Speaker 7: game being close early allowed them to sort of, uh,
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Speaker 7: let Max stay within himself, and then at the end
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Speaker 7: of the game once he had to sort of go
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Speaker 7: downfield and make more chance throws and not be as contained,
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Speaker 7: if you will, or conservative, that didn't fare as well.
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Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean he's got to play better because
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Speaker 7: if if you make the mistakes he made at the
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Speaker 7: end of the game, you have no chance. Frankly, I'm
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Speaker 7: not sure what chance they have against the Lions either way,
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Speaker 7: not trying to be pessimistic, but it's a brutal it's
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Speaker 7: a brutal matchup. So but but but we're talking Vikings.
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Speaker 2: So let's let's say last week we'll get to that
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Speaker 2: matchup against the Lions defense.
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Speaker 3: Bucky was so funny.
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Speaker 4: Wow, wow, me.
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Speaker 7: Younger out there, pot potentially.
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Speaker 6: But the Minnesota Vikings were also a really good team
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Speaker 6: and we hailed him, uh fought them tooth and nailed
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Speaker 6: and it was a game that was twelve seven.
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Speaker 4: So why can't we do the same thing.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the Lions, they've been in one score game John
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Speaker 2: six of them.
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Speaker 7: But all these things, all these things are true. I
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Speaker 7: if we're going off top, this is the Vikings, it's
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Speaker 7: a fair topic. I absolutely knows to the defense against
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Speaker 7: the Vikings. My instinct tells me that when you when
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Speaker 7: you get three picks deep in your own territory, that
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Speaker 7: is incredible effort for that week. I don't know that
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Speaker 7: you're going to sustain and get a bunch of turnovers
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Speaker 7: at the very last possible moment. I wonder how often
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Speaker 7: you can do that. That's playing on the edge. And
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Speaker 7: I think the Lions are a lot better than the Vikings.
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Speaker 7: I think the Lions are the best team in the league.
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Speaker 7: And I think they're I think they know exactly how
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Speaker 7: they want to play. They're impressive.
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Speaker 6: They are impressive. But I will say as a member
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Speaker 6: the debate club. I will say this, the quarterback putting
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Speaker 6: the lines through five interceptions last week, and he ain't
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Speaker 6: gonna do it, so I mean so, but I'm just
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Speaker 6: saying he through five last week.
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Speaker 4: We got three in the red zone.
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Speaker 7: So that doesn't mean that he's to get picks by
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Speaker 7: my mask.
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying he's coming in. He's coming in thing.
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Speaker 6: Off for poor performance, so he can go one to wait.
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Speaker 6: Either he's gonna bounce back and play tremendous or.
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Speaker 4: He could have a little hangover.
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Speaker 6: We're hoping that he has a little bit of a
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Speaker 6: hangover and some of those interceptions continue to be a
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Speaker 6: part of his DNA.
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Speaker 4: How about that?
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Speaker 3: How about that a little deeper into this a little
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Speaker 3: bit later.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, we get to the lines later. Yeah, the tax
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Speaker 7: say Vikings center.
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Speaker 2: JAG's offense last week one hundred and forty three yards,
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Speaker 2: fifth worst day in the history of the franchise in
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Speaker 2: terms of yardage in a single game and a lot
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Speaker 2: of three and outs. They had the touchdown drive early
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Speaker 2: in the first quarter, so they checked that box.
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Speaker 3: Hey, first quarter.
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Speaker 2: Touchdown check that was nice, and then nothing after that.
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Speaker 2: Where was Brian Thomas Junior in this game and why
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Speaker 2: and how do they get some targets his way and
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Speaker 2: increase those Bucky.
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Speaker 6: Well, I saw him running around. He was on the
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Speaker 6: field somewhere. I don't know why the ball didn't go
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Speaker 6: his way, but he was on the field. I can
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Speaker 6: verify that he was on the field running around the ball.
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Speaker 6: He just didn't end up in his hands, and that
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Speaker 6: was certainly disappointing. The offense has to be more intention
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Speaker 6: about making sure that the best player touches the ball
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Speaker 6: like he has to be a priority, and it has
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Speaker 6: to be called, it has to be directed a mac.
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Speaker 6: We need to get the ball to number seven, find
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Speaker 6: a way to get him the ball, and he needs
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Speaker 6: to have ten to twelve targets at.
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Speaker 4: A minimum each week. He's the most.
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Speaker 6: Impactful offensive player that we have, and it's criminal if
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Speaker 6: he's not having opportunities to touch it. That has to
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Speaker 6: be something that when you look at the tape and
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Speaker 6: you kind of go with your call sheet, you're like, man,
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Speaker 6: we really messed it up. We got to make sure
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Speaker 6: that he gets the ball early in offense so he
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Speaker 6: can have an impact on the game.
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna ask the offensive seer a question and Well
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Speaker 7: and press by two things. Bucky, when we've talked about
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Speaker 7: this Jaguars offense over the years, you have taught me
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Speaker 7: that it's best when it's happening organically right, going to
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Speaker 7: the right receiver. That's just the way this system feels.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 7: The Vikings the other day tried to feed Justin Jefferson,
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Speaker 7: and feeding Justin Jefferson with some force passes caused a
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Speaker 7: lot of picks. So I would maintain one reason that
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Speaker 7: the Jaguars didn't go to BTJ a whole lot. You've
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Speaker 7: got a backup quarterback who struggled a little bit forced
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Speaker 7: feeding into double coverage. You sure didn't want the picks
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Speaker 7: early that the Vikings got. So I mean, am I
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Speaker 7: on anything there can this offense force feed? When you
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Speaker 7: told me it's always best organic.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's always best organic when they have all the
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Speaker 6: weapons available.
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Speaker 4: I think missing Christian Kirk is a huge part of it.
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Speaker 6: And let's just be honest, Gabe Davis has not given
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Speaker 6: us what we thought that he would give us when
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Speaker 6: he was a high price free agent. To me, when
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Speaker 6: you're up against in your backs against the wall, it's
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Speaker 6: always players not played.
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Speaker 4: And if you had to rank the players of the
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Speaker 4: Jaguars in order. Brian Thomas Junior.
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Speaker 6: Would probably be at the top of the list when
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Speaker 6: it comes to the most impact and who can deliver
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Speaker 6: the biggest, big play production. If it's not him, then
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Speaker 6: it has to be you know, Evan Ingram turns of
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Speaker 6: being a chain over. You got the two running backs,
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Speaker 6: Travis Dettienn Tank Bigsby, and then you have the other guys.
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Speaker 4: It just seems that you.
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Speaker 6: Don't want to make a concerted effort to get him
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Speaker 6: in the mix and to make sure that he's featured,
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Speaker 6: particularly when you have a backup quarterback. It's hard to
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Speaker 6: envision mac Jones making a series of completions and plays
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Speaker 6: over and over and over again throughout the game. Then
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Speaker 6: he's gonna be able to drive the team up and
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Speaker 6: down the field without the assistance of a big play.
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Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Junior is the one, and I will say
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Speaker 6: maybe the only one that can deliver the big plays
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Speaker 6: based on what we've seen this season.
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Speaker 7: How hard is it to tell him, Bucky And I'm
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Speaker 7: not trying to. I believe the point, but he drops
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Speaker 7: back and his read is telling him Brian Thomas Junior's
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Speaker 7: double covered or it's not the way to go and
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Speaker 7: I didn't play, So how tough is it to tell
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Speaker 7: the quarterback throw it there anyway? Is he making the
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Speaker 7: right read? Not going to him?
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Speaker 4: Oh, I would say he's probably playing it straight. He's
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Speaker 4: making the right read.
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Speaker 6: And I'm not advocating for him just to abandon whatever
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Speaker 6: the play call is and to just throw it over
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Speaker 6: the number seven, regardless of where he is in the progression.
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Speaker 6: But as a coach, there are things that you can
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Speaker 6: draw up to making the first guy in the progression.
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Speaker 6: There's things that you also can draw up that there's
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Speaker 6: really no read. Like when you think about like the
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Speaker 6: flas sweeps and the bubble screens and those things, they're
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Speaker 6: no read on those plays.
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Speaker 4: I'll just say that he has to touch the ball
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Speaker 4: in some way, shape.
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Speaker 6: Or form, and if we can't give it to him
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Speaker 6: pushing the ball down the field, then we have to
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Speaker 6: hand it to him. We have to flip it out
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Speaker 6: to him. He has to have opportunities to impact the game.
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Speaker 6: And no one knows what that can look like in
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Speaker 6: terms of stylistically routes of those things, but it has
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Speaker 6: to be a thing where on your call sheet you're saying,
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Speaker 6: we want to get him the ball ten to twelve
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Speaker 6: times and to see if he can have an impact
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Speaker 6: in some way, shape or form.
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Speaker 2: All right, final thought on those vikings Bagwars game last week.
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Speaker 2: Then we'll move on to the Detroit matchup Jaguars defense.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned it, three takeaways. They held justin Jefferson to
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Speaker 2: his lowest output of the season, Bucky. How did they
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Speaker 2: do that? And is that sustainable against some other receivers
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Speaker 2: were about to see.
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Speaker 6: You know, it's funny because I asked Doug after the
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Speaker 6: game if that was stylistically the way that he wanted
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Speaker 6: the team to play, which was a little more ben
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Speaker 6: but don't break a little more of I would call
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Speaker 6: the Gus Bradley era defense, where make them drive the
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Speaker 6: length of the field using twelve to fifteen plays to
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Speaker 6: odd suggest that something's going to go your way. They
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Speaker 6: have a negative play, a turnover, a penalty, a tackle
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Speaker 6: for loss, something will get them out of rhythm and
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Speaker 6: you'll eventually be able to slow them down before they
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Speaker 6: get into the red zone. Doug said, Hey, that's a
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Speaker 6: week by week thing. We'll see, but I would say,
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Speaker 6: looking at the Lions offense.
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Speaker 4: It needs to be something similar.
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Speaker 6: It needs to be something where you eliminate the big play,
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Speaker 6: don't allow Jameson Williams, don't allow Amara Roussaint Brown to
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Speaker 6: get past you on a vertical throw, keep everything in front, rally, tackle,
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Speaker 6: and force Jarrett Golf to make plays in the red zone.
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Speaker 4: To me, that's the best approach. I think they can.
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Speaker 6: Gain a lot from how they played against the Vikings.
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Speaker 6: The one thing that is different about the Vikings and
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Speaker 6: the Lions. The Lions are not afraid to run the ball.
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Speaker 6: They will run the ball with both running backs Jamior
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Speaker 6: Gibbs and David Montgomery. So it might be a little
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Speaker 6: tougher to play light in the box like they did
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Speaker 6: against the Minnesota Vikings because the Lions are committed to
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Speaker 6: running the football.
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll cut back in a moment and dig
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Speaker 2: into that batch up. Of course, plenty ahead for the
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Speaker 2: Jaguars heading to Motown this week Ford Field against the
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Speaker 2: eight and one Detroit Lions. We are often running it
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Speaker 2: is Wednesday. That means it's huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 8: You know, when you have to play that many snaps,
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Speaker 8: you know that much time, it takes a toll and uh,
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Speaker 8: but we do a good job in rotating and good
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Speaker 8: job of staying fresh. You know a lot of people
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Speaker 8: want us to be in there as the whole game,
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Speaker 8: but you know, when you have a game like that
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Speaker 8: the last couple of weeks, you know, we have to
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Speaker 8: play a basketball in the fourth quarter. And with that
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Speaker 8: being said, man, we have to rotate when we have to,
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Speaker 8: you know, put guys in situations and but when it's
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Speaker 8: time for us to come back in there, they play
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Speaker 8: we do. I think this was a good job we
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Speaker 8: did last week. You know, granted we played ad to
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Speaker 8: snatch a name. Hopefully that's those numbers are going to
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Speaker 8: keep coming down. But the last couple weeks, we've been
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Speaker 8: on the field a lot, and uh, you know, we
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Speaker 8: gotta stay precious press as we.
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Speaker 2: Can Josh heinz Allen earlier this week the full press
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, It's huddle up with Bucky.
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Speaker 2: Brooks, Jack Shatterick, John Oser and get down to the bank. Sunday,
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Speaker 2: December first, the Jaguars go ahead to head with the
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Speaker 2: division rival Houston Texans with the Might Cause Mike Cleats game.
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Speaker 3: That's in a little bit away from now.
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Speaker 2: Of course, next up on the docket, the Jaguars head
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Speaker 2: to Detroit, Michigan, the Motor City, and they'll face the
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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions at Ford Field. It has become a hostile
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Speaker 2: place to play, of course, because the Lions are very
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Speaker 2: good the last couple of years, and they're off to
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Speaker 2: their best start this year, best starts since nineteen fifty
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Speaker 2: four when Bobby Lane and Doak Walker were running the
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Speaker 2: sidelines at Briggs Stadium later to become Tiger Stadium.
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Speaker 3: It's been a long time since they've been this good
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Speaker 3: this early.
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Speaker 2: And let's start off with this Jaguars defense and Josh
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Speaker 2: Heinz Allen and crew who've been on the field forever
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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks against this Lions offense and
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Speaker 2: Jared Goff. Yeah, five interceptions Bucky last week against the
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Speaker 2: Houston Texans. But overall, the way he has kind of
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Speaker 2: reinvigorated his career certainly has since he's been traded to Detroit.
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Speaker 2: I'm curious. I mean, it helps when you have the
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Speaker 2: weapons around him like that. But there is a confidence
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Speaker 2: in this quarterback in that city.
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Speaker 3: How has he earned that over.
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Speaker 6: The years, just consistent performing, steady development, really in ingratiating.
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Speaker 4: Himself with the city with his play. This is a
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Speaker 4: team that fancies itself as.
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Speaker 6: A tough, rugged, blue collar team, much like the city,
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Speaker 6: and Jerry Goff has embraced that and it's reflected in
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Speaker 6: his play. This is a guy that is very consistent.
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Speaker 6: This is a guy that shows up each and every
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Speaker 6: week and he does what is asked. And there are
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Speaker 6: people that are talking about, hey, whether he's a top
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Speaker 6: five quarterback or a top ten quarterback. But what I
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Speaker 6: do know is he's a winning quarterback and he plays
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Speaker 6: in winning.
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Speaker 4: Fashion for this team.
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Speaker 6: And with all the doubts and stuff around him when
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Speaker 6: he got to Detroit, what he did is put his
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Speaker 6: head down, went to work, helped his team. Really this
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Speaker 6: organization completely turn around. And now we're talking about this
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Speaker 6: team potentially being the best team in football. A lot
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Speaker 6: of that is due to the way that Jered Goff
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Speaker 6: has handled himself every step of the way.
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Speaker 7: I thought I was impressed the other night. I got
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Speaker 7: home in time to see about like the last probably
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Speaker 7: three quarters, even when he was throwing picks, which a
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Speaker 7: couple of them were kind of fluky. You know, some
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Speaker 7: stuff go up in the air and you know, get tipped.
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Speaker 7: It never felt like any of the interceptions deflated them, right,
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Speaker 7: and there was never a here we go again, even
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Speaker 7: when through his fifth it was the next drive they're going.
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Speaker 7: They are a resilient team that believes they're going to win.
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Speaker 7: It was twenty three what to seven and a half time.
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Speaker 7: Did they ever feel out of it? I mean, and
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Speaker 7: they're a strong team that believes in itself. They're the
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Speaker 7: most confident team I've seen this year. And I guess
15:56
Speaker 7: I'm talking about this when talking about golf in the
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Speaker 7: sense that they're not quarterback centric news, so they don't
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Speaker 7: have to have He doesn't have to play great for
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Speaker 7: them to win. He just has to be himself. I
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Speaker 7: guess is the point.
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Speaker 4: John.
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Speaker 6: Let me back up off that point, because I think
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Speaker 6: what you've talked about is something that will continue to
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Speaker 6: explore as we can then have this conversations about our
16:17
Speaker 6: team and what our team could look like going forward.
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Speaker 6: The Detroit Lions are a very tough and physical team.
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Speaker 6: They take on the personality of their coach. This was
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Speaker 6: a team that when he started they were zero to ten,
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Speaker 6: and yet he never blinked, he didn't relent, He continued
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Speaker 6: to stay the course.
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Speaker 4: The team bought into his tactics.
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Speaker 6: They then went from like to eight seven and one
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Speaker 6: or whatever they were the following the year before. They
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Speaker 6: had the big jump last year, and everything that they
16:44
Speaker 6: talk about, everything that he says is about toughness, resiliency,
16:48
Speaker 6: the team being together in those things. And a lot
16:50
Speaker 6: of times we can kind of like be bored with
16:52
Speaker 6: coach talk and coach speaking those things. But I think
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Speaker 6: him saying and clearly identifying how this team is built,
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Speaker 6: what they're about, I think that matters because the more
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Speaker 6: the players here, the more they begin to buy into
17:05
Speaker 6: it and more they repeat it. The other thing the
17:07
Speaker 6: construction of the team. When they rebuild this team with
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Speaker 6: Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell, they started from inside out,
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Speaker 6: meaning it's like building the house. They started with the foundation,
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Speaker 6: which is the offensive and defensive lines. Look at what
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Speaker 6: they committed to do the ragnow two offensive tackles that
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Speaker 6: they drafted early, and then they expanded outside. The reason
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Speaker 6: why this team is tough is really because they poured
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Speaker 6: into the positions that are essential to building a tough team,
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Speaker 6: and they made sure that it was the offensive defensive
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Speaker 6: line to set the tone with their collective toughness. And
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Speaker 6: then it's the sexy stuff on the outside that everyone
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Speaker 6: gets excited about.
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Speaker 3: Bucky.
17:43
Speaker 2: You talked about the running game in Detroit and the
17:46
Speaker 2: two backs back there, Jamie Gibbs and David Montgomery. They
17:49
Speaker 2: have an identical number of carries this year, right on
17:53
Speaker 2: the money, one hundred and twenty two each. How different
17:56
Speaker 2: are the running styles and how they use these on
18:00
Speaker 2: the field.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's funny because they're different, but they're
18:03
Speaker 6: utilized almost in the same way, meaning.
18:06
Speaker 4: That they have running backs one A and one B.
18:10
Speaker 4: They can do the same things. Jamior Gibbs is the
18:12
Speaker 4: most explosive of the duo. He is the guy that
18:15
Speaker 4: is the big playmaker.
18:16
Speaker 6: He has speed, he has quickness, He has great balance
18:18
Speaker 6: and vision.
18:19
Speaker 4: He can go the distance from anywhere on the field.
18:21
Speaker 6: But he also has the ability to run inside with
18:24
Speaker 6: power and toughness. And David Montgomery, you got more of
18:27
Speaker 6: the grinder, right, like we were talking about on the horse track.
18:30
Speaker 4: He's more of the mutter, right.
18:32
Speaker 6: He's the guy that's just kind of clogging along, making
18:34
Speaker 6: his thing, but he also can pop out in times,
18:37
Speaker 6: and together they are a tough duo because they run
18:41
Speaker 6: with physicality and toughness. They finished runs violently, and when
18:44
Speaker 6: you put them behind arguably the best offensive line in football, man,
18:48
Speaker 6: it's a long day and it's gonna be a long
18:50
Speaker 6: day for the defense trying to figure out you to
18:52
Speaker 6: protest stop of the run or the past, because the
18:54
Speaker 6: Lions can do both equally well.
18:56
Speaker 7: Yes see, I think that's what makes this It's that
18:59
Speaker 7: part of it that makes it tough matchup to me,
19:01
Speaker 7: because you're playing on the road. Bucky and I think
19:04
Speaker 7: talked a couple of weeks ago about stamina, and you know,
19:09
Speaker 7: when the Jaguars are loving, we talked about it last week.
19:11
Speaker 7: I thought it would bite him a little bit, and
19:13
Speaker 7: credit to them, it didn't. But at some point, when
19:16
Speaker 7: you are struggling, when you're two and eight, when you
19:20
Speaker 7: feel like you've been close, there's going to be a
19:23
Speaker 7: punch that you can't take. And when the other team
19:28
Speaker 7: is running effectively and they keep punching and punching and punching,
19:33
Speaker 7: then that can really wear you out. And I it
19:37
Speaker 7: it feels to me like this on paper is the
19:41
Speaker 7: week where that's a real danger. And maybe on broke
19:43
Speaker 7: a record because I heard myself saying that last week too,
19:46
Speaker 7: But so massive credit because it could have happened last
19:50
Speaker 7: couple weeks for this team hadn't allowed it yet. But
19:53
Speaker 7: being on the road against this really good team that
19:56
Speaker 7: you know, punch, punch, punch in the gut and they
19:59
Speaker 7: go up top on you, and.
20:00
Speaker 2: They got the weapons outside to do it, tight end
20:02
Speaker 2: to do it, they get all those pieces.
20:03
Speaker 7: So this is a There's been some over the years
20:07
Speaker 7: where this team's been struggling where you've looked at it
20:09
Speaker 7: and gone, oh, this feels like uh oh, I think
20:12
Speaker 7: it's the toughest test to the season for that reason.
20:14
Speaker 3: Hey, Bucky, how do you cover Sam Laporta the tight end?
20:18
Speaker 2: How do you manage it? Feels like his numbers have
20:20
Speaker 2: not been what they were right.
20:23
Speaker 4: He's been beat up, he's been injured.
20:25
Speaker 6: So the big thing is because he's been a little gimp,
20:28
Speaker 6: he hasn't been the focal point of the passing game.
20:30
Speaker 6: The thing about this Lion's team is just the next
20:32
Speaker 6: person that comes into rotation. It means that now more
20:35
Speaker 6: balls go elsewhere. If it's not going to Sam reporter
20:38
Speaker 6: Dennis jameson Williams Dennis the two running backs who also
20:41
Speaker 6: can catch it out of the backfield. They got Tim
20:43
Speaker 6: Patrick where they picked up from Detroit when they let
20:46
Speaker 6: him go. They have a lot of weapon friends. They
20:48
Speaker 6: gonna test you and stretch you in a bunch of
20:50
Speaker 6: different ways. And as we talked about, yeah, they can
20:53
Speaker 6: throw it horizontal, they can throw a vertical, but he
20:54
Speaker 6: also can run it at you. It really puts you
20:57
Speaker 6: in a bund because you don't know what's the farr.
21:00
Speaker 4: But I would say this, if you don't stop the run,
21:02
Speaker 4: you have no chance.
21:03
Speaker 6: But by stopping trying to stop the run, you better
21:06
Speaker 6: be able to cover one on one.
21:07
Speaker 4: And so the test would be Kenny Jaguars hold up outside?
21:10
Speaker 6: Can they covered these guys and Manda man coverage because
21:13
Speaker 6: I can't imagine him playing a lot or an over
21:16
Speaker 6: abundance of zone like they played last week because they
21:18
Speaker 6: just got them at the running.
21:19
Speaker 3: It all right.
21:21
Speaker 2: Putting ahead, We'll come back in a moment and take
21:23
Speaker 2: a look at the Lions defense and the Jags offense
21:26
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21:41
Speaker 3: It's huddled up with Bucky Brooks.
21:52
Speaker 9: I thought we played with good tempo and out of
21:54
Speaker 9: the huddle. Obviously there's a lot of things to work
21:57
Speaker 9: on throughout the game, but it boils down to anything
22:00
Speaker 9: better by me. I thought I left three plays out there,
22:03
Speaker 9: and if you change those three plays and maybe the
22:05
Speaker 9: outcomes a little different. So that's how I'm looking at it.
22:07
Speaker 9: That's the truth, and I'm gonna learn from it and
22:10
Speaker 9: move on and been here before, which is tough, but
22:13
Speaker 9: you also have one choice, and that's to get up
22:16
Speaker 9: and keep going. So that's what I'm gonna do. Lead
22:18
Speaker 9: the team and show confidence not only in them, but
22:22
Speaker 9: also in myself because we work really hard and the
22:25
Speaker 9: coaches put us in great position to be ready each week,
22:28
Speaker 9: and that's our goal as an offense and as a team,
22:31
Speaker 9: to just get everyone playing together.
22:33
Speaker 2: That's Michael mccorky Jones. He's the starter for the Jaguars
22:36
Speaker 2: this week in Detroit against the Lions. Welcome back, gets
22:40
Speaker 2: huddle up with Bucky Brooks, JP Shadwick, John Osier and Jacksonville.
22:44
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks is in Los Angeles. Yes, the Allions eight
22:48
Speaker 2: and one. The Jaguars are not. They are two and eight.
22:51
Speaker 2: And we'll flip it around now and take a look
22:53
Speaker 2: at the Lions defense and hear from head coach Doug
22:55
Speaker 2: Peterson on Wednesday about this group on defense in Motown
23:00
Speaker 2: that takes the ball away.
23:02
Speaker 3: They don't have Adon Hutchinson, but they've got a whole
23:04
Speaker 3: lot left on the table.
23:06
Speaker 5: It's a really good unit. They're good upfront. It's a
23:10
Speaker 5: fast flow defense. Obviously, they you know, they can be
23:16
Speaker 5: disruptive upfront. I think their two tackles inside are good players,
23:19
Speaker 5: big physical guys, and the linebackers can run, you know,
23:24
Speaker 5: and and and really it's just a again, a unit
23:29
Speaker 5: that's playing well together. You know, that's what you see
23:31
Speaker 5: on tape. And and when when they do that, they
23:36
Speaker 5: can that's that's where they can play fast and and
23:38
Speaker 5: really you know, keep keep offenses down, you know, I mean,
23:43
Speaker 5: it's do teams score and do teams gain yards against them? Sure,
23:49
Speaker 5: but they've also been able to you know, stymy some
23:53
Speaker 5: guys and and and get after quarterbacks and and create
23:57
Speaker 5: some takeaways.
23:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have created some take type for fourth in
24:01
Speaker 2: the league with eighteen of them this year, Kirby Joseph
24:04
Speaker 2: type of the league league with six interceptions this year.
24:07
Speaker 2: And as you heard Peterson say, there, yeah, there's some
24:11
Speaker 2: yardage against them their twentieth and total defense this year
24:14
Speaker 2: and twenty eighth against the past. But really good in situations,
24:18
Speaker 2: third down, red zone, Bucky goal to go.
24:22
Speaker 3: These guys can do a lot of good things.
24:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a good team and it's a team
24:28
Speaker 6: that has bounced back from I would say, like a
24:31
Speaker 6: couple of disappointing years initially.
24:33
Speaker 4: When Aaron Glynn took over to now they're playing some
24:36
Speaker 4: of the best ball that we've seen on that side
24:38
Speaker 4: of the ball.
24:39
Speaker 6: What they do, first and foremost, the effort is gonna
24:41
Speaker 6: be outstanding. They're gonna run to the ball, They're gonna
24:43
Speaker 6: hit you hard. It's about effort and attitude when it
24:45
Speaker 6: comes to deal with the Lions. And then they're going
24:48
Speaker 6: to give you a lot of Manda Man coverage because
24:50
Speaker 6: they've upgraded the personnel in the back end. That means
24:53
Speaker 6: tight window throws, that means interceptions could be had on
24:56
Speaker 6: tips and overthrows and those things as you're trying to
24:59
Speaker 6: fit it into tight windows, and then it's about dealing
25:01
Speaker 6: with the pass rush that will benefit from Zadarius Smith
25:05
Speaker 6: making this first appearance in that line's uniform. Allen McNeil,
25:09
Speaker 6: who's an interior defensive tackle, win the best and the biz.
25:12
Speaker 4: He's going to have a factor. So this is a
25:13
Speaker 4: tough matchup for the Jaguars. They're going to be up
25:16
Speaker 4: to the task.
25:16
Speaker 6: The first thing to get to his protect mc jones,
25:18
Speaker 6: and then he has to take care of the ball.
25:20
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know if this
25:22
Speaker 7: is a great defense, a good defense, or what it is.
25:24
Speaker 7: I do know that if you have a really good offense,
25:27
Speaker 7: which this team does, you can win a Super Bowl
25:32
Speaker 7: if you are fourth in takeaways and first and third
25:35
Speaker 7: down defense, right because you're winning on the plays that
25:39
Speaker 7: matter and you're getting your team the ball back. In
25:42
Speaker 7: this league, I don't think you're going to be like
25:45
Speaker 7: yardage great on both sides of the ball very rarely.
25:49
Speaker 7: But that's winning defense when you have an offense that
25:52
Speaker 7: controls the ball. So that sort of jibes with what
25:58
Speaker 7: it looks like. And you know, a credit to them
26:01
Speaker 7: for doing what they're doing without Aiden Hutchinson because third
26:05
Speaker 7: down defense, you would think he if he was playing,
26:08
Speaker 7: you would think he's the major reason they were good
26:10
Speaker 7: at that. So they're deep and they're good.
26:13
Speaker 3: That's what's Yes, that's what it is. Guys in the back.
26:18
Speaker 7: You smile on him again. Bucky doesn't think. I think
26:20
Speaker 7: they have a chance to win this.
26:20
Speaker 3: Bucky's sent a good mood today.
26:22
Speaker 7: He's laughing at my pessimism.
26:25
Speaker 4: I mean, I just think every game is winnable.
26:27
Speaker 6: Like the Carolina Panthers went from being the door met
26:29
Speaker 6: of the league to winning a couple of games in
26:31
Speaker 6: a row. Every game in this league is winnable if
26:33
Speaker 6: you if you're willing to do what it takes to win.
26:35
Speaker 6: And so for the Jaguars is how do you need
26:37
Speaker 6: to muck up the game to give them an opportunity
26:40
Speaker 6: to win?
26:40
Speaker 4: Is that running the football?
26:42
Speaker 6: Is that somehow doing the bend but don't break thing
26:44
Speaker 6: that it did last week against a team that.
26:46
Speaker 4: Has a lot of firepower.
26:47
Speaker 6: Whatever that is, it comes down to you can you
26:50
Speaker 6: set your team up for success to win the game
26:53
Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter by doing whatever it is that
26:55
Speaker 6: you have to do, And so I'm curious to see
26:57
Speaker 6: what's the plan of attack against a team that is
26:59
Speaker 6: viewed as as a Super Bowl contender, a Super Bowl favorite.
27:03
Speaker 6: I want to see how the Jaguars matchup because in
27:05
Speaker 6: every game, with the exception of like the Buffalo Bills game, Look,
27:08
Speaker 6: this team has been close. Like you have six losses
27:10
Speaker 6: by a touchdown or less, this team has been close.
27:14
Speaker 6: Can they get up off the matt and find a
27:15
Speaker 6: way to knock out an opponent that is better than them?
27:17
Speaker 3: How would you do it, then, Bucky, if you're calling again.
27:20
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think first and foremost, I think this
27:23
Speaker 6: has to be a ball control game where your offense
27:25
Speaker 6: is your best defense.
27:27
Speaker 4: And even though.
27:27
Speaker 6: Offensively we haven't played to our potential, I still think
27:31
Speaker 6: you have to call the game like that, short intermediate passes,
27:34
Speaker 6: a mix of the running game, trying to have these
27:37
Speaker 6: ten plus play drives to shrink the number or to
27:40
Speaker 6: limit the number of opportunities that they have on the
27:42
Speaker 6: other end.
27:44
Speaker 4: To me, that's the way to do it. You can't
27:46
Speaker 4: go three and out like that.
27:48
Speaker 6: They can't obviously put together the performance they did on Sunday,
27:50
Speaker 6: where they didn't have enough plays and the defense had over.
27:53
Speaker 4: Eighty plays that they had to defend.
27:55
Speaker 6: The magic number sixty five players to play great defense
27:57
Speaker 6: in the league. So the Jaguars got to maybe slow
28:00
Speaker 6: the game down a little bit, but control the game.
28:02
Speaker 6: And then Mac Jones, he's gonna have to play well.
28:05
Speaker 6: He didn't play well. He has to play better. He
28:06
Speaker 6: can't mopen pout and have the kind of game that
28:10
Speaker 6: he had in the fourth quarter. He has to find
28:11
Speaker 6: a way to play well. And everyone around him has
28:14
Speaker 6: to rally around the backup quarterback, so I.
28:16
Speaker 4: Shouldn't see some of the things that we see.
28:18
Speaker 6: On occasion on the sideline, guys yelling and squabbling and
28:21
Speaker 6: all that. Everyone has to pour the boat in the
28:23
Speaker 6: right direction so they can get off the map.
28:25
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Max's the key for the defense. I
28:27
Speaker 7: mean he has to, as Bucky said, he has to
28:32
Speaker 7: be efficient on short passes. I don't know that you're
28:36
Speaker 7: going to beat the Lions. I mean, they have to
28:38
Speaker 7: have some big plays, but I don't think you're gonna
28:40
Speaker 7: have multiple huge plays against this defense. And I'm not
28:45
Speaker 7: sure the Jaguars running game is built to be a
28:51
Speaker 7: ball control keep the ball away from the other team.
28:54
Speaker 7: I think it can be effective, but it doesn't if
28:57
Speaker 7: the Lions know that's going to be the approach. The
29:00
Speaker 7: Jaguars have not been a blast the other team off
29:02
Speaker 7: the ball and run for four yards of carry. They've
29:06
Speaker 7: hit big plays in the running game more than anything.
29:09
Speaker 7: So it's going to be incumbent on Mac Jones to
29:12
Speaker 7: be better in the short and intermediate passing game than
29:16
Speaker 7: he was on Sunday.
29:17
Speaker 2: All right, fellas, let's come back and get our final
29:20
Speaker 2: thoughts in ahead of this Jaguars Lions matchup. In week eleven,
29:24
Speaker 2: the Jaguars head to Motown and ford Field Jags at
29:29
Speaker 2: two and eight Lions at eight and one, to tuddle
29:32
Speaker 2: up with Bucky Brooks.
29:42
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.
29:43
Speaker 10: I mean you can't stay on the snow, you can't
29:45
Speaker 10: convert get a first down. I mean it's hard to
29:47
Speaker 10: even get the roll. So I mean it all come
29:51
Speaker 10: with us. It's got to be better with the little
29:53
Speaker 10: things and get a drive started and maintain a drive.
29:58
Speaker 3: It'll be better.
29:59
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, Junior Jaguars wide receiver on Monday in the
30:02
Speaker 2: locker room, I'm fresher sound from today available coming very
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30:09
Speaker 2: the media today as they get ready for the Lions matchup.
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Speaker 3: Go to Fieldsauto dot com. Well, the Detroit Lions.
30:22
Speaker 2: Are looking to win their division in consecutive seasons for
30:26
Speaker 2: the first time since nineteen fifty two through fifty four.
30:30
Speaker 3: It's been a while.
30:31
Speaker 2: They made the NFL Championship Game each of those seasons
30:34
Speaker 2: and won two of three.
30:36
Speaker 3: Here you see the NFC North. They lead the.
30:38
Speaker 2: Way at eight and one, Minnesota right on their tail,
30:41
Speaker 2: Green Bay in the mix, Chicago is fading. Meanwhile, the
30:45
Speaker 2: Jaguars in the AFC South, of course, at the bottom
30:48
Speaker 2: of things with a two and eight record.
30:50
Speaker 3: The Texans are not running away.
30:52
Speaker 2: They're six and four and the Colts aren't doing themselves
30:56
Speaker 2: any favors though. At four and six, wat a football
30:59
Speaker 2: left to be played. We'll see if Detections can sustain
31:03
Speaker 2: down the stretch. But that's how different things are for
31:06
Speaker 2: these teams going in to this matchup.
31:08
Speaker 3: Aaron and Yeah, he couldn't be more stark of a difference.
31:11
Speaker 7: No, it's uh it would be one of the bigger
31:17
Speaker 7: upsets to Jayways have ever pulled if they win this. Sure,
31:20
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's what it is. I wish I had
31:24
Speaker 7: more insightful analysis than that. I think it's it's it's
31:28
Speaker 7: a tough matchup, even beyond the records. I think the
31:30
Speaker 7: matchup itself is tough. I think Bucky's gonna start laughing
31:32
Speaker 7: at me because he thinks I think some cynical guy.
31:35
Speaker 7: But it's a I think I think this is a
31:39
Speaker 7: it's tough to find a path.
31:43
Speaker 6: It's a tough matchup, and it has nothing to do
31:46
Speaker 6: with the x's and o's. It has more to do
31:48
Speaker 6: with the mentality and the approach of both teams. Uh,
31:51
Speaker 6: the Detroit lines, you know exactly what you're gonna get
31:53
Speaker 6: each and every week when they show up. It's gonna
31:55
Speaker 6: be a physical matchup. It's gonna be one that is
31:58
Speaker 6: gonna be very combative, gonna be hoigh. They contested, and
32:01
Speaker 6: they're not going to relent at any point. I still
32:04
Speaker 6: have the memory, and I'm sure most of these players
32:06
Speaker 6: have the memory of the she lacking that took place
32:09
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago when we went up there,
32:11
Speaker 6: And so that's what you have to ready for. And
32:13
Speaker 6: it reminds me of those old days when the Jacks
32:17
Speaker 6: had to get ready for the Pittsburgh Steelers or a
32:19
Speaker 6: team from the ac North, where you knew that it
32:21
Speaker 6: was going to be one of those kind of gritty
32:22
Speaker 6: type battles.
32:24
Speaker 4: This is gonna be a greedy battle. You got to
32:26
Speaker 4: be ready for it.
32:26
Speaker 6: And if the Jacks are not ready for it, yeah
32:29
Speaker 6: it could get lopsided. But if they're ready for it
32:30
Speaker 6: and they come with the right mind frame, and if
32:32
Speaker 6: they're able to get off to what we say a
32:34
Speaker 6: good start, because we really haven't seen the Jacks get
32:36
Speaker 6: off to a fast start, but let's just say they
32:38
Speaker 6: can get out to a good start for the first
32:39
Speaker 6: time I would say all year. Then you have an
32:42
Speaker 6: opportunity to dictate the terms. And then those games kind
32:45
Speaker 6: of become tough for the favorite team because I can't
32:47
Speaker 6: imagine that the lines will be all the way locked
32:49
Speaker 6: in with a two point eight team coming in, But
32:54
Speaker 6: you just never know.
32:54
Speaker 4: That's why we gotta play.
32:55
Speaker 7: It how I play the game.
32:57
Speaker 2: This is where the season can go either way for
32:59
Speaker 2: the Jaguars right here with a bye week next week,
33:02
Speaker 2: a loss means they're not mathematically eliminated, but they would
33:05
Speaker 2: be guaranteed a losing record no matter what happens here
33:09
Speaker 2: in the stretch. Matt, Yes, absolutely, and then there'll be questions,
33:13
Speaker 2: of course about the long term future of the quarterback
33:16
Speaker 2: of the team heading into the bye week. We'll get
33:19
Speaker 2: to that next week Jaguars Lions. Well, hopefully we don't
33:22
Speaker 2: get to that next week. That means the Jaguars will
33:24
Speaker 2: have upset the Lions and have kept their hopes intact
33:28
Speaker 2: and can build upon that moving ahead. Either way, we'll
33:31
Speaker 2: get to that next week on this program. During the
33:34
Speaker 2: bye Bucky, we'll talk to you on Sunday at Ford Field.
33:38
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
33:39
Speaker 4: I mean, it should be fine. Hopefully we can get
33:41
Speaker 4: a dope. Hopefully we can guess all on. Maybe we
33:44
Speaker 4: can get a dope.
33:45
Speaker 2: I'm glad you got a couple of laughs out of
33:47
Speaker 2: John today, all right, Buck, Bucky Brooks, schod Ozer our
33:56
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Speaker 2: Thanks to you for watching its huddle up with Bucky Brooks.