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Do We Have To Pick Sides? · The M&M Experience

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Speaker 1: Well, welcome back.
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Speaker 2: How about have you have you seen the video of
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Speaker 2: the guy waving the flag that gets surrounded by a
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Speaker 2: bunch of anti ICE protesters.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Mark, it's everywhere on X Where geographically did it happen?
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Speaker 2: I don't even know to tell you the truth, I
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Speaker 2: don't think Minneapolis. Maybe somebody can text me on the
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Speaker 2: on and tell me where it is. It's it's epic. Look,
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Speaker 2: I'm not pro violence, obviously, none of us are. We're
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Speaker 2: not we're not advocating violence. This guy's just waving an
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Speaker 2: American flag in the middle of a crowd of these
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Speaker 2: you know, filthy anti ICE, anti law enforcement protesters. So
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Speaker 2: he just gets it. He's finally he's got no more
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Speaker 2: blanks to give. He and they're in his face, and
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Speaker 2: they're like shoving a megaphone in his in his face
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Speaker 2: and pushing on him and spitting on He finally just
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Speaker 2: puts the flag down. Yep, and he goes to town Mark.
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Speaker 2: He drops all of them one by one. One guy
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Speaker 2: goes marching up to me, pulls it. The one kid,
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Speaker 2: it looks like he's about twenty five years old. He
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Speaker 2: pulls off his gloves. He goes all right, mrfore you
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Speaker 2: want to go. He goes up to the guy, the
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Speaker 2: guy just puts him to sleep.
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Speaker 1: Just one. He is just now.
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Speaker 2: I saw a report somewhere that he's facing charges. I know,
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Speaker 2: I know, but look these protesters. What kind of person
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Speaker 2: decides to go around and object to law enforcement. Have
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Speaker 2: you seen the montages of all the Democrats who've been
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Speaker 2: demanding mass deportation for the last twenty years?
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Speaker 1: Oh oh, you got to see the one.
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Speaker 2: One of them with Barack Obama, Bill Clinton. Look that
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Speaker 2: those administrations deported way more than the Trump administration has deported.
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Speaker 3: There's old Schumer cuts of him in the nineties talking
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Speaker 3: about the need for borders and the need to have
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Speaker 3: some control over hoot comes in and that's just completely
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Speaker 3: all gone. Now it's gone.
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Speaker 2: Out the wind because it's Trump, because they and Trump
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Speaker 2: got elected on that promise.
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, look around at what's happening.
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Speaker 2: Mortgage rates are finally down below six percent for the
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Speaker 2: first time in years. US gas prices officially fell to
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Speaker 2: an average of two seventy eight gallon. This is the
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Speaker 2: lowest it's been since March of twenty twenty one. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we've got such good thing. And look, Trump is going
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Speaker 2: to take on Iran. We have a colleague in South
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Speaker 2: Carolina named Terra. She does the morning show on ninety
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Speaker 2: eight nine Word. She is smart as a whip and
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Speaker 2: she did analysis today about what we should be doing
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Speaker 2: with Iran, and obviously her takeaway is we got to
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Speaker 2: take out the mullas, we got to end this. And
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Speaker 2: she connects the dots so brilliantly between the Democrats, i e.
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Speaker 2: John Kerrey, the Biden administration and how the Democrats opened
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Speaker 2: the door for Iran to do what it's doing and
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Speaker 2: be where it's at, at the billions of dollars and
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Speaker 2: the palettes of cash and all the garbage moves that
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Speaker 2: the Democrats made. And now the chickens have come home
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Speaker 2: to roost. And so I want to play some of
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Speaker 2: her commentary on my show later today so you can.
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Speaker 3: Hear how's that going over. I'd love to know what's
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Speaker 3: in your head and your heart about this, because the
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Speaker 3: Trump's instinct, my instinct, I think yours to do something.
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Speaker 3: Iran is a country that has been under the boot
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Speaker 3: of these theocratic Mulla monsters since nineteen seventy nine and
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Speaker 3: they've had it had They've had it up to their
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Speaker 3: eyeballs with this. Of course, the economy is tanking too,
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Speaker 3: which will add to the tension on the streets of
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Speaker 3: Tehran and other cities where millions have taken to the
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Speaker 3: streets in just the last few weeks and they're getting killed.
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Speaker 3: There's a guy who may be executed publicly today or
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Speaker 3: taking part in some of these protests as the Iranian
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Speaker 3: regime shows reflexes its muscle. We hate that. I played
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Speaker 3: a little bit of rand Paul yesterday from one of
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Speaker 3: the from Meat Press, and he said, look, we should
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Speaker 3: root for these people, we should hope that their reform
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Speaker 3: is successful. But as soon as we start to talk
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Speaker 3: about an American military intervention to bring that about, that's
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Speaker 3: where he begins to blanche. I had a couple of
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Speaker 3: callers who did too. Why am I good with this?
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Speaker 3: What are are you? I mean, it's not just because
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Speaker 3: oh it's Trump, so we like it. I just feel
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Speaker 3: like Iran is a sufficient danger and a sufficient poison
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Speaker 3: that trying to help help these these this people's revolution
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Speaker 3: seems like a good thing.
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Speaker 1: But what about you? I'm good with it too.
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Speaker 2: You know, making America great again doesn't mean that we
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Speaker 2: operate in a vacuum. We're not the only country in
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Speaker 2: the world and we and it's impossible not to make
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Speaker 2: draw a through line between frankly, what Hamas did to
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Speaker 2: to Israel on October the seventh, Iran, the Mullahs, And
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Speaker 2: according to Axios, President Trump is leaning towards striking Iran
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Speaker 2: to punish the regime for killing the protesters. Hasn't made
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Speaker 2: a final decision yet. He's exploring, you know, diplomacy, looking
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Speaker 2: at Iranian proposals for negotiations. But look, this is the
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Speaker 2: same pushback, The Rand Paul pushback is the same pushback
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Speaker 2: that that the Trump is getting on any of the
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Speaker 2: events that are happening on the world stage.
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Speaker 1: And I fear that it's an over oversimplification.
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Speaker 2: Look, Rand Paul is a stone cold isolationist. I don't
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Speaker 2: say that to smear him either, because I think he
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Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. There's a lot of merits,
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Speaker 2: a lot of his wisdom. But he doesn't want us
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Speaker 2: to have He doesn't want to spend one penny anywhere else.
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Speaker 2: It's America only, America only. America first, doesn't mean America
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Speaker 2: only Mark and and and if and and We're going
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Speaker 2: to do this at our own peril because our borders
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Speaker 2: are our soil is at risk, our people are at risk.
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Speaker 2: If we don't understand the complexities of dealing with Iran,
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Speaker 2: of dealing with North Korea, of dealing with China, we cannot,
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Speaker 2: you know, cut ourselves off and say, well, we're only
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Speaker 2: going to worry about what we do here in America
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Speaker 2: and not pay one dime or spend any resources anywhere else.
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Speaker 2: I think that's shortsighted and overly simplistic one.
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Speaker 3: And I wonder what the over under is, Not to
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Speaker 3: prod you or anybody else, what's the over under on
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Speaker 3: before Tucker Carlson comes out and says it'll open up
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Speaker 3: World War three or four, whatever we're on right now
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Speaker 3: if it takes any kind of action against it.
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Speaker 2: When you were off yesterday or not off, but we
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Speaker 2: didn't do the M and M. But I interviewed Garrett
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Speaker 2: Seawright over Barrett Media. Garrett is reporting on this riff
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Speaker 2: among conservative media influencers. And you know, when you look
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Speaker 2: at it, it really happened.
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Speaker 1: It really began. I think after Charlie was killed.
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Speaker 2: After Charlie was assassinated, it feels like there were all
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Speaker 2: these fissures that started irrupting. Now maybe that's an oversimplification,
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Speaker 2: but that's what it at least feels like.
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Speaker 3: In my it's a flashpoint when it just blew up,
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Speaker 3: because I think those had been simmering before, and Tucker
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Speaker 3: and a few other people, Candice had already started to
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Speaker 3: go nuts. So there was a little bit of that there.
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Speaker 3: There was a little bit of self aggrandizement and this
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Speaker 3: is my lane, which your free speech gives them the
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Speaker 3: right to do. But when Charlie died, they perceived a
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Speaker 3: vacuum and they said, oh, there are a lot of
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Speaker 3: people looking for guidance, looking for content, looking for clicks.
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Speaker 3: Let me go in and fill that with either my
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Speaker 3: anti semitism, Nick Twentes my weird America only, is Tucker
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Speaker 3: Carlson my anti semitism Candace OANs. So you're right in
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Speaker 3: identifying Charlie's death as a moment where it's spiked, no doubt.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a good way to put it to
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Speaker 2: a flashpoint. And boy, if you look at some of that,
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Speaker 2: and I look, my problem is I like all of them,
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Speaker 2: well most of them anyway. I will Mark Levin, Mark
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Speaker 2: Levin and Megan let you know, absolutely, but twentes is garbage.
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Speaker 3: But you look at Mark Tucker is broken and can
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Speaker 3: you look insane?
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Speaker 2: But you look at Mark Levin and and Megan Kelly,
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Speaker 2: two of the heavyweights, and they are going at it
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Speaker 2: like nobody's business team.
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Speaker 3: Levin, Megan Kelly is lost. She is long, She's not
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Speaker 3: She's not lost.
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Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't you know this?
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Speaker 3: Kelly believes that Candice Owens is right to just ask
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Speaker 3: questions about whether the Jews had Charlie Kirk killed.
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Speaker 2: You're making a mistaken Don't take sides on don't take
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Speaker 2: sides on this?
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Speaker 1: Why not because you're because you don't have to.
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Speaker 2: You don't have to take a side because what because
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Speaker 2: they want you to? You don't have to take a side.
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Speaker 3: I have not binary in that Levin is always right
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Speaker 3: and Megan is now of no value. I'm not saying Matt.
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Speaker 3: In this chapter, Megan has lost her way, and she
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Speaker 3: is so great on so many other things.
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Speaker 1: I long for her one chapter.
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Speaker 3: What are you talking about in this chapapter of the
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Speaker 3: so called I believe wholly invented, wholly concocted, thoroughly inside
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Speaker 3: our bubble between pipers and influencers and podcasters, ninety people
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Speaker 3: listening right now, don't give a damn about any of that.
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Speaker 3: It is an inside the bubble media affectation.
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Speaker 2: You're you're you're being sort of you're you're sort of saying,
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Speaker 2: we gotta make we got to decide here. And this
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Speaker 2: is what this is part of the narrative on this
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Speaker 2: that well, you better be on either team Megan or
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Speaker 2: team Mark Levin.
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Speaker 1: And that's dumb, I.
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Speaker 3: Mean to me. And as they go against each other,
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Speaker 3: as they go sniping.
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Speaker 1: And death con.
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Speaker 3: Savage each other, I have team Mark Levin one hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: Well, and and you're you're alienating probably half the audience
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Speaker 2: who says, look, Mark is sort of myopic on the
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Speaker 2: issue of.
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Speaker 3: Where I mean, whom I alienate by offering up a
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Speaker 3: passion why personal view?
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Speaker 1: But why do you feel like you need to alienate anybody?
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Speaker 3: Because wilful blindness to stupidity is stupidity.
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Speaker 2: It's not willful blindness. It's it's not taking aside and
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Speaker 2: disparaging somebody like Megan Kelly, who she has the attitude
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Speaker 2: of bring every voice to the table and let the
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Speaker 2: audience and.
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Speaker 1: Would you.
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Speaker 2: Exact should ignore him and Tucker, what do you care
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Speaker 2: if somebody interviews this guy and then you because that
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Speaker 2: is a major media figure, a big a person who
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Speaker 2: purports to be a big deal, saying to an audience,
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Speaker 2: this is someone who deserves attention.
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Speaker 3: And if they feel that way, they are lost. They
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Speaker 3: have every right to be lost, every right to interview
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Speaker 3: whom ever they wish, and silly me, I have the
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Speaker 3: right to consider that a bad thing to do.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think I think you just feel compelled to
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Speaker 2: sort of to pick sides on all of this, and
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden will and and I do feel
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Speaker 2: strongly that there's a part of our business that ought.
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Speaker 2: This brings me back many, many many years ago when
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Speaker 2: I worked in Albany, New York, there was a local
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Speaker 2: guy named Ernest Zundel who put Holocaust denying propaganda on
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Speaker 2: cable access locally, and I was upset about it because
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Speaker 2: I thought, there's impressionable people are going to see this
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Speaker 2: guy and they're going to believe that the Holocaust didn't exist.
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Speaker 2: So I wanted to interview him, and I did. When
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Speaker 2: I interviewed him, the local Jewish community like protested me.
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Speaker 2: They showed up in the parking lot of the station.
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Speaker 2: There were Holocaust survivors, and their attitude was just what
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Speaker 2: you're saying. Don't give this the light of day, don't
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Speaker 2: talk to these people.
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Speaker 3: Completely different because did you challenge the Holocaust denial?
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Speaker 1: Course I did.
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Speaker 3: Then you did the right thing, and it was a
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Speaker 3: good thing for you to do. And there are a
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Speaker 3: lot of people out there who do not know that
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Speaker 3: Holocaust denial exists, and it does. You didn't a good
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Speaker 3: thing that day. I, by the way, did the same
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Speaker 3: thing in Washington in nineteen ninety three, and it was
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Speaker 3: the good and right thing to do. But we know
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Speaker 3: these morons exist, We know this worldview exists, that Charlie
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Speaker 3: Kirk was killed by the Jews.
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Speaker 2: We know, we know, we don't we need to be
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Speaker 2: told for your beef five, So your beef, So your
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Speaker 2: beef with Tucker or and or Megan is it's okay.
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Speaker 2: It would have been okay to interview Nick Fuentes if
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Speaker 2: Tucker had just pushed back.
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Speaker 3: So we're not giving him a foot rub exactly right.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I guess that's a that's certainly an arguable
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Speaker 2: position and a position that's.
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Speaker 3: As we as we often do. For the last couple
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Speaker 3: of minutes with skill and love in the room. This
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Speaker 3: is exactly where a little bit of a little corner
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Speaker 3: of conservative media and conservative thought is is whom to
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Speaker 3: whom to get, whom, whom to platform, whom to cast
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Speaker 3: attention to when it's time to move on past some
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Speaker 3: other people? What do you do? It's and I totally
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Speaker 3: understand and respect your thought and those who agree with you.
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Speaker 3: I totally I get it. I get it.
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Speaker 2: I got it too well here and let's let's end
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Speaker 2: with James Woods, who made a great post about Karen's
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Speaker 2: because a lot of the look I love the meme
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Speaker 2: that says that America's greatest enemy right now is the
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Speaker 2: white liberal woman. And incidentally, quick sidebar on the protests,
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Speaker 2: the anti ice protests. Have you noticed there aren't any
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Speaker 2: black or Hispanic protests? What is going on? Well, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to talk about that on the show today. There's
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Speaker 2: a great Red State analysis about why you're not seeing
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Speaker 2: any black or Hispanic anti ice protesters. But anyway, white
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Speaker 2: liberal women I call them Karen's all the time. Every
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Speaker 2: time I talk about Karen, I get some pushback from
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Speaker 2: somebody named Karen.
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Speaker 3: I know, I get a call from from Karen and
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Speaker 3: Grapevine or Karen and ral letnis. I feel so sorry, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: Dang, I know, but it is well.
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Speaker 2: James Woods writes, while we're at it, I have a
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Speaker 2: cousin named Karen, one of my favorite people on Earth
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Speaker 2: are remarkable person. Enough with the Karen jokes, please, And
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Speaker 2: then he goes on to say, and most importantly, special
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Speaker 2: needs people suffer enough. Retard is a disgraceful and cruel word.
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Speaker 2: Enough already, And boy do I agree with me? Absolutely
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Speaker 2: here here right Glad you're back. Boy. They're really going
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Speaker 2: to be mad when I'm off a few days next week,
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Speaker 2: aren't Oh dude, I know I gotta take you. Look,
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Speaker 2: I'm burning some days this year. I'm not taking less
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Speaker 2: than half my allotted vacation days this year.
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Speaker 1: I'm taking my time.
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Speaker 3: But for you, use them or lose them.
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Speaker 1: I love you.
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Speaker 2: King Tut is going to be off for a few
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Speaker 2: days next week. I love you. At ten o'clock, he's
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