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Bears season is over after another OT thriller · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

0:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, oh man, bears loose to the loss ends of this Rams and overtime, 20 to 17, Caleb got them into overtime, but he threw three interceptions.
0:15
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot to go into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, this was one hell of a season, and actually even with them interceptions, this was one hell of a game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of drops out there also, a couple of misplaced balls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a fourth downer too, they should have been a feel-go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but it's still a celebration if we've been honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, we got to talk about the offensive line play.
0:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think Alex hinted to with the last episode as far as Joe Thunney, maybe popping out to left tackle.
0:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, first is coming in and doing a good job at left guard.
0:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you hated on them, you hated on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't sound like this thing again this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and Danny had his guys and guess who, guess who was a step healthier one thing we talked about Kyle Gordon, but this was a brisker game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a 2022, and this was a 2022 Riam Polls first to pick game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to say at least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're going to get into all that, but let's just start off right away with the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams was 23 for 42, 257 yards, two TDs, three exceptions for passer rating of 59.3 on the flip side, Matthew Stafford, 20 or 42,
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[SPEAKER_00]: at the 258 yards, but these guys, games were eerily similar to our zero zero CDs, zero and exceptions, and a QB rating of 67 as they had to go to the run game, because Dennis Allen was giving Matthew Steph for fits after they scored their first touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Matthew Steph for getting out in the comfortable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did not like that.
1:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the, like, again, we'll get to the defensive side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we have to, particularly for the disrespect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's two people we got with some respect on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of them, I was going back and forth because he threw three in his sessions this day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we still, and thank you, we appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We still have to put some respect on this name for all the haters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This has been a lot of haters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm pulling out pistols for the haters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On this, it's not the pin-optimate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the ultimate episode for the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We hoped, let's say, what's the word for three times before the end because pin-optimate is last second to last?
2:32
[SPEAKER_00]: What I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I got a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the third one is, we hope that was going to be it for the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There aren't two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we hope it was two more, but it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Rams are going to go to Seattle to get their asses kicked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to get to see the Bears versus the Patriots, which partially, like how things were going out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never want the Patriots to get revenge on the Bears for what they did back in 85.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a young kid enough to remember that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was such abuse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you always like one or run away and hope that that revenge is never reciprocated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't want we saw that's a little bright spot that that's in the basic nature.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's in the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just because it's particularly Mike Grable's first year and the connection between Caleb Williams and Drake May, we don't need that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I'm looking for roses here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you were in some rosy colored glasses right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not rosy because this was, this was a really good game from the point of a team that had as good as players as you, but a better coach because some of them has a super bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them has done this for what going on nine seasons, eight or nine seasons, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 15th, 15th, 15th, 15th and he's not even boarding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, he's playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because he couldn't be because I believe one of the guys is the candidate this year We the first coach if he's hired to be hired at 30 so Shami Bay had I think Shami was 32 When he was first got that he was when he first got that job, but what were your thoughts as we Open up this episode also of the Wendy city podcast presented by fans side I'm Kenneth Davis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Alex Shapiro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, with that was on a game like that required a long cold open
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[SPEAKER_00]: game like that required a big gold open it and it deservedly so because there was still questions yes, but there was still a lot of answers too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So here's what I mean like you got the rosy colored glasses on I think it is hard for any other feeling other than disappointment from the bear's perspective and you can talk all about about growth and the windows being open
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[SPEAKER_04]: opportunities and Caleb and that was prior to the show for everybody that's listening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, I'm talking about anybody out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of people talking about the window is open.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The future is bright.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's hard.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's hard not to be disappointed because man did the Chicago Bears have opportunities in this football game to go out and really win this thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then you're in an NFC championship game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can get Sam Donald to turn the ball over.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you can start playing your way again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that, David?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did
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[SPEAKER_00]: that I wouldn't pick against the bears, guess what I was going to do probably next week and hit towards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to slightly hit towards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, dude, dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that back in some passes, Jackson Smith and Jiggle?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Where?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just great, and again, I know you went to S.C. And now, but I was a Sam Darno guy, like, again, I don't know if, I don't know if the told is if he's going to revert back, but go ahead and rock with what you're about to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we can clash right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You are taking on the best offense in the NFL,
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[SPEAKER_04]: an unbelievable job of holding that offense and check, forcing turnovers on downs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Dennis Allen in his bag bringing the pressure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jekwam Brissker had his best game of the year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tyler Gordon was looking like a player, but on set was what creating pressure.
6:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Dom Rob out there creating dumb your dumb Rob you got dumb Rob and sweat you Like you got your dumb Rob.
7:04
[SPEAKER_04]: This guy they held Devante Adams almost entirely in check until the very end of that game In the cool who can the cool a five say what you will everybody's banged up man everybody's banged up
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[SPEAKER_04]: job that the defense did against that offense was so spectacular.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the opportunities that the Bears had on offense, Roma Dunes a early in that game drops a touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, changes the course of the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really mind the fourth down aggression to be honest because you're probably thinking we got to put up points to keep up with this team that I'm not being the case, but they can burn it out once more, but they can burn it out once more, but sometimes you have to take the points sometimes, but I didn't have a problem with that, what I had a huge problem with, the short yardage execution.
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[SPEAKER_04]: 31.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How many third ones were they stuffed?
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[SPEAKER_04]: How many fourth and ones were they stuffed?
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[SPEAKER_04]: They finally got one on a sneak But you know, they tried the ball inside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They tried the ball outside Which was one side of the line you couldn't use one side of the line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Alex like They could they they you know, they they wasn't they were running to the right Look, I'm not saying to the work and then when they they went to the left a few times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was okay But that was two thousand throw off though
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[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't uh, we, we, we, we choose on both sides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a throwoff right there, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, make sure to, the book, I'll give you this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you, the, the, look, it's okay to kick a feel go.
8:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we, again, I'm the biggest BJ fan around this piece, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes that over-aggression, and I'll give you, okay, first we don't know how the office is going to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know how well their office is going to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to go for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At some points take the cheap points and get your ass out of there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one thing that they have to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, I'll give you the co-stint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a co-stint drop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a burgundy rock and yeah, there was a lot that like that part where put this is the thing there was a problem because Rome is a body catcher right that Rome doesn't unless it's above it's it.
9:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Rome usually does not extend out to catch passes, that's not necessarily his forte.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, he damn where a better get better in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of drop passes, but the flip side, and this is why I disagree with you, both of these offices were affected by the environment that they were playing in too.
9:43
[SPEAKER_00]: like just just you have to add that to this.
9:47
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a reason why when we both thought this game was going to get closer to 30 points, it was 2017.
9:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a reason to that because it was cold as you know what and because you wanted to go live, I can't drop that you know what on here, right?
10:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was cold as you know what.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it like they in all fairness,
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[SPEAKER_00]: This would have been a bit more heat on this piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But for what it got in the chat, for folks who are listening on audio later, we're live streaming, so we got folks in the chat.
10:29
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think Kenneth was reading a comment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a magical season to bear as a cop to some more than we all thought they would this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've seen off-Champions one, two games against the Packers and a playoff victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
10:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Listening from Vietnam.
10:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Listening from Vietnam.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So shout out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll be strong.
10:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I hope I pronounce that right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the overseas.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, here's what am I thinking on that and here's why it leads to the disappointment.
10:52
[SPEAKER_04]: I hear you.
10:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, you could argue that the bears are head of schedule.
10:57
[SPEAKER_04]: It's year two for Caleb Williams.
10:58
[SPEAKER_04]: It's year two.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's not an argument they are head of schedule outlets.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure the past couple years, the lions have been saying the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Players are gonna leave this locker room.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna be different this team even though they were banged up Even though they were banged up was healthy like killing this is totally different From I've got your pillow suffers an injury that might end his career might end No, how would it eat food dog?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had a CO surgery
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11:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So I actually don't have a Patel attendant in one space.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He will be fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he will, I'm telling you, he will be fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They will either get a donor or they will use a different type of muscle to replace his Patel attendant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't know if it was even a clean tear or if there was a tear between several of his Patel attendants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But point being, the whole thing with
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have the players around Jaden Daniels that the bears have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're they're now looking for someone to be outside of scary territory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have the dual running back situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have the office of line situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The bears haven't had to fix their defense.
12:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And that this again, I'm not even super capen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we knew in the before anybody thinking like I thought that the commanders
12:47
[SPEAKER_00]: That may not be the same a second year because they were just hot.
12:52
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears were hot too, right?
12:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But you once saw, they had to grow through this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The commanders were just good last year and caught everyone by surprise.
13:03
[SPEAKER_00]: People didn't even think the bears were any, you know, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they came along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the lion, I think the butcher lions come.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's flawed from the point of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's the apples and oranges comparison between the lines and the commanders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The lions had three seasons where they had a chance to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the bears are ahead of schedule one when you compare them to the lions because when the lions first beat Green Bay when we were getting good, they didn't even make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I disagree because one, even if we look at the Jayden Daniels Caleb comparison, one thing when we talk about Caleb, listen, Caleb has some things he has to correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he has some accurate issues, they have to be correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has to correct the fact that he's thinking he can just really nearly it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's something to him where he has to become more robotic in some ways with his throws because it leads sometimes to an inaccurate passes, but I think he can get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason I'm bringing this up compared to Jane Daniels, we've never went tell me the last time we've seen a
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[SPEAKER_00]: This clutch again in this game leaving them into overtime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This clutch when it when it comes to you know what I can do I can get I can close this game out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that part that like we're working backwards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The good thing about him is we're working backwards with him He's got all the stuff that you can't teach
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has the crazy arm, he has the maneuverability.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has whatever if you don't believe in clutch clearly there is clutch because some people come through and some people are raising them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The nation has raised.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, somebody, you have the run game that mean you have went and Nazim about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These weren't even the run-a-backs you thought you wanted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So imagine if you get a nut, some other guys coming in there, we'll find out what happens, I hear you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll find out what happens when it comes to the line, but you have a really good offensive line, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You only have your linebackers of decent or DBs who have been banged up all year, played their asses off this day, retired in the back, how many, how many back for a play, brisker, which I read just, get the, get the, listen, it can be, it can be equals and one sack for jacquan brisker,
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[SPEAKER_00]: it can be a prove it two year or one year in an option but get the checkbook out at this point, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's been on his health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to have to relearn so some things as far as mobility was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: vestibular therapy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The type of concussion that he had with vestibular therapy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like, it's like your eyes can be out of whack.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you can just be, if you tilt your head too far to the left too quickly, it can make you dizzy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You have to retrain your brain on how to be looking at distance, be looking at short distance.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you're doing a question that was outrageous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're doing this in an NFL game with how quickly things have to be processed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like you just said, imagine fixing your eyes and trying to understand what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're in a game when the quarterbacks trying to trick you with his eyes in the office of the coordinator is trying to trick you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My point being, and again, I want you to bring the real so we can dive into and dissect this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but I don't think this is a woe is me if this was blown and we will I'll say this too for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll give you two episodes a week in all season, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a high episode coming up maybe this week, maybe next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, things to cool down about why this could be a blessing in disguise where Allison and I will debate
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, why don't you block it for that take right now?
17:05
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need it this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need it this week.
17:08
[SPEAKER_00]: The streets will explode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The streets will be exploding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need it this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just think that this, you know what this game was?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This game was a microcosm of what this season kind of, yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was
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[SPEAKER_00]: All it was almost good enough, which now, and, and, and, and zoom in out, almost good enough to make it to the industry championship game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we can talk about it with Caleb too, microcosm of Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you know, I'm not going to read this guy's handle out loud because it's not safe for word, but it's starts with no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the he says Caleb definitely has to work on accuracy and you mentioned this goes he does.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he does, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And what's what's very interesting about Caleb and bringing it back to you talking about, he has all the intangibles, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He has the it factor, he has the arm talent, he makes the ridiculous throws.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I truly believe his upside is like Patrick Mahomes level.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He makes the Patrick Mahomes plays.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've seen it so many times, they're not flukes, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's at this point, it's not a flukes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is the upside.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, that's the ultimate ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the tipi top.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So many guys don't reach their ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of so many guys don't go under baby go, though.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's got the talent.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's got all the baby to go to baby go is I'm not saying he's going to be back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying he's got to be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying that's the ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's respect on baby goes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: if everything goes 100% perfect and he develops.
18:42
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be one of the better quarter chances are he's going to be the better.
18:46
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you do.
18:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Like come on.
18:48
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was going to say, because I think the top three will fluctuate, but I think he will reside if he stays healthy.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He will reside within the top three and the thing where we'll make him pop to the first is because he can close games out which that's what you get into with the baby going patching my home saying guys how does he innately how was he innately able to close out a game where it seems like this is should be over where there's something in him that it doesn't matter so that's something so that's the ceiling which we've seen all year that is his absolute to be top ceiling he can be he can be that good we've seen it
19:24
[SPEAKER_04]: But he won't be that good if he doesn't make more of the simple plays more often.
19:31
[SPEAKER_04]: We've seen him sail too many balls.
19:33
[SPEAKER_04]: No, all quarterbacks are going to do it.
19:36
[SPEAKER_04]: All quarterbacks are going to miss guys.
19:38
[SPEAKER_04]: No quarterbacks are 10 for 10.
19:40
[SPEAKER_04]: No quarterbacks are 9 for 10.
19:41
[SPEAKER_04]: No quarterbacks are 8 for 10, right?
19:44
[SPEAKER_04]: You're gonna miss throws.
19:47
[SPEAKER_04]: But he has to get more accurate.
19:50
[SPEAKER_04]: His completion percentage that is hovered around 50, 55, whatever, 60% got to be closer to 70%.
19:57
[SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of that does start with him, and he admitted that.
20:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that was great.
20:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I love hearing that from Caleb Williams right after the game him right away saying I got a lot of stuff to work on this offseason Namely my footwork in accuracy.
20:11
[SPEAKER_04]: That's exactly what you want to hear because he does because First of all, I'm not hating.
20:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sad to just the window was closed
20:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not saying Windows closed Kenneth.
20:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying.
20:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Chris was a hell of an opportunity and it's like, I'm not trying to diminish the big picture.
20:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Big picture is incredibly exciting.
20:33
[SPEAKER_04]: The bears exceeded everybody's expectations.
20:35
[SPEAKER_04]: If I don't, I think if you're talking to somebody and they said they would have it a chance to win a game to go to the NFC championship game against the Rams, you know, like they would be driving bit after opportunity.
20:46
[SPEAKER_04]: I think everybody'd be like, what?
20:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: In Matthew Stephers MVP year, right?
20:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a Matthew Stephers.
20:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I receive your leads and yards and receive your leads and touchdowns.
20:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you shut them down.
20:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'm adding to your point.
20:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You shut them down.
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
21:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not hating.
21:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying like, this was an opportunity.
21:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that got passed them.
21:06
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's the ceiling.
21:07
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the ceiling.
21:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
21:10
[SPEAKER_04]: But he has to do those things, right?
21:12
[SPEAKER_04]: He has to get better in these ways.
21:17
[SPEAKER_00]: and a man I've lost my train of thought because we've got to start with jumping when we jump in before jumping okay so this is a thing so last year he let the league in sacks correct you had you you did had you did drastically improved office of line but he went from like 60 something to 24 or something like that I believe prior to this game or whatever
21:38
[SPEAKER_00]: you saw, you saw even during this season, him go from, hold onto the ball, to even if he still holds onto the ball, making that past a co-comment.
21:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, huge leaps.
21:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He took huge on this here.
21:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, that past a co-comment.
21:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was like, oh, it was like, oh, this is so over.
21:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, this is like, I was only one other quarterback in the NFL makes that throw.
22:02
[SPEAKER_04]: It was Patrick McCombs.
22:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so, but the point being is that for me to push back on what you're saying, I think Caleb has showed us he will take the necessary steps to make the moves necessary.
22:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You're still right.
22:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to see it.
22:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we still have to go through and see it.
22:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But it would be different if he was still making
22:26
[SPEAKER_00]: a plethora of mistakes that he was making last year.
22:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that leads me to this kind of forgetting about that you led me right back to it.
22:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get to you.
22:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
22:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
22:35
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
22:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But this, this is also him and Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, learning on the fly.
22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: like that, like this is really, we don't really want to look at what this year was.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: This was a year where they really didn't get into a groove to damn their week nine, really, week 10 or 11.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And still, things weren't chopping all the way right.
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have to sit there and now see.
23:06
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, you're right,
23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: looking at one having the best new coach in the NFL as far as guys that got hired this year.
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's better than Liam Cohen.
23:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You have that guy, right?
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And also he has Go Nets.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: right like and I don't I want to see how far this is going to go it just bites him in the you know what right but he has donuts but he's smart as a whip and then you have and you said coaches were going to leave I don't think anyone's coming for Dennis Allen this year.
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and I'm not that you were saying him, but I, I know you have, um, you have parents.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Eric, I know you have here.
23:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you have here.
23:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It's on Randall L. Yeah, it would be, it would be in me, isn't it going anywhere?
23:59
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, I don't really linked to the the chiefs of sea job if Matt Nagy, if Matt Nagy, I guess I had to go up.
24:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I did, first of all, that will be dumb as far as Matt Nagy and echoed down.
24:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be really, he's going to get out.
24:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I would tell you this.
24:17
[SPEAKER_00]: The chief, I hope is not this year.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not actually an interview with Matt Nagy, cool guy.
24:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of people got bad things to say, got the whole thing.
24:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy talking
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But the chief should bring Eric being in me and regardless of that mad naggy leaves or stays.
24:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just being honest with you.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Like so if you're saying that, if you're saying that, hey Eric, the door is open.
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: If you get to go back there, but you they should break it.
24:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Clearly have they been the same since he hasn't been there?
24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Like clearly they should break him back.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't, if it's not an offensive coordinator job, I think Eric Vietnamese stays for several reasons.
24:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But go ahead, you said that you wanted to get into a high U at last you're trying to thought.
25:02
[SPEAKER_04]: So the other thing that I think was troubling was I think, I think Caleb put the ball in harm's way uncorrecteristically.
25:13
[SPEAKER_04]: No, not.
25:15
[SPEAKER_04]: not put the ball in harm's way, but made like, in my opinion, bad decisions and bad throws.
25:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Typically like, yeah, he's going to challenge guys and he's going to challenge tight windows.
25:25
[SPEAKER_04]: So he will put the ball in harm's way in that way.
25:29
[SPEAKER_04]: But his second interception, I mean, I don't know if he just never saw the underneath guy, but his target's like clearly double covered.
25:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's just like, man, that's a ball you probably want back.
25:43
[SPEAKER_04]: his first interception to.
25:45
[SPEAKER_04]: It was just I don't think it was a good throw and I don't think it was a good throw at the third one now the third one we could talk a lot about the third one and I wonder about this guy's future on the theme.
25:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Chris Collins' worth was going in, going in on DJ Moore and more guys afterwards, Terrell Owens, T.O.
26:06
[SPEAKER_04]: comes out of the woodwork to drag DJ Moore for the lack of days ago effort on that drag rub.
26:13
[SPEAKER_04]: He got dragged for the drag rub, right?
26:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Where I've now watched this a bunch of times.
26:19
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of green grass and Caleb Williams, if he is expecting DJ more to just break it off and run into that space because he throws it right to that space right at the numbers.
26:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's a great catch and now you're setting up Cairo Santos for a ship shot to win.
26:38
[SPEAKER_04]: So the third interception, I'm not going to put on Caleb.
26:41
[SPEAKER_04]: The third interception, I'm not going to put on Caleb.
26:43
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of people who know a lot more about football than me.
26:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Terro Owens, namely, there's played a lot of good white receiver, Chase Daniel.
26:51
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of guys being like DJ, he was like sleepwalking on that rep, like jogging.
26:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think Chase Daniel's like, dude, you're, you're might be the primary readier.
27:03
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you doing here?
27:04
[SPEAKER_04]: So the last one, I'm not going to put on Caleb, but the other two, it was Caleb had done that at the beginning of the year.
27:12
[SPEAKER_04]: thrown the ball upwards like, whoa man, you can't throw that ball there.
27:16
[SPEAKER_04]: You like that, so that's a really bad decision.
27:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he had to kind of settle down for a lot, for a lot of that season.
27:23
[SPEAKER_04]: For a lot of his career has been very, very good about not throwing interceptions.
27:28
[SPEAKER_04]: And two of them, I think, just really hurt this team, two of them really hurt this team.
27:33
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's a little bit of the up and down.
27:35
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a bit of the growth.
27:36
[SPEAKER_04]: But the first, that's a bit of the roller coaster.
27:38
[SPEAKER_04]: So like, yeah, the upside is there.
27:40
[SPEAKER_04]: He's got, he's got to make the, the routine plays.
27:44
[SPEAKER_04]: The play is that you're supposed to hit 9 out of 10 times.
27:48
[SPEAKER_04]: He's got to hit 9 out of 10 times.
27:50
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you want to see him more and more and more not make those head scratching throws.
27:55
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think through a few of them that really hurt them today.
27:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So the second interception you had the situation where it could have been coal.
28:04
[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been a coast to not running a proper route also.
28:10
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I then said, that's why I burden was.
28:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
28:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, that's really was one.
28:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a, again, not saying it's proven, but that that second in theception, Cosa may have not run the route that he was supposed to run to pull that defender away from that situation why burden was double-cobert and direct.
28:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, he made sure the rent got at that time,
28:40
[SPEAKER_00]: man, I wish we could curse on that.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It happens.
28:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'm not even, I'm not even caping for them.
28:47
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm for them to pull through for them to be banged up, even with the DJ stuff.
28:55
[SPEAKER_00]: DJ has his pros.
28:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess in his cons, but how many times he had his ass kicked out there he does not get out of the damn game.
29:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, DJ Warrior 2 takes tons of big heads.
29:07
[SPEAKER_04]: It's always a good time and it's always a good time.
29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, making the past.
29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: in the back the great pass again how many that's like the third pass this year if not the second one in the back of the end zone we've seen him hop over the defender to make sure that DJ can catch the ball so maybe DJ is a damn good player yes there are times like the interceptionity through I don't know if it was the Packers
29:32
[SPEAKER_00]: or who was the, or if it was the 49ers, or if it was, no, maybe in alliance, maybe in alliance where DJ didn't fight for it going out.
29:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he just got a body.
29:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he got it, but you got to, you got to push the guy.
29:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You, you, body my ass, you, you're too thick.
29:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Not too, right?
29:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Power for Joe ass and try to back him up at least.
29:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Even for flip side of that is just like the Pook and the Kula breaking up the interception last week or whatever, where you have to do things like that.
30:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I'm not saying that there's nothing that you can say against him, but I'm still saying, and again, we should be hard.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not one of those people that's like, let's not judge this harshly, right?
30:12
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
30:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think if they're healthy next year,
30:17
[SPEAKER_00]: there's a lot of good that can come from this depending on how the season shakes out, depending on the growth of, no, not depending, looking at the growth that they have this year.
30:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this, this, this is, like, at any given, we'll probably the next episode, maybe the celebration, Alex, maybe that will be.
30:38
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
30:38
[SPEAKER_00]: what we would celebrate, um, and I will, and how we are bears you are really laid out the full plan here.
30:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's get to it.
30:46
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll give you the, I'll give you the vibes.
30:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll give you the vibes side of the exact scenario.
30:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll just lay it out of DJ more.
30:53
[SPEAKER_04]: is kind of jogging half running this last play that ends up being and obviously pivotal moment.
31:01
[SPEAKER_04]: The upside play is, hey, here's another thing we've seen all season.
31:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's another, you want to talk about this game being a microcosm of the entire season.
31:08
[SPEAKER_04]: How many times this year have we seen Caleb Williams and his receivers just not on the same page?
31:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's the first year of Ben Johnson's offense and obviously it's a lot.
31:18
[SPEAKER_04]: and there are going to be miscommunications.
31:21
[SPEAKER_04]: There are going to be alignment issues, there are going to be shift issues, there are going to be route issues.
31:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Because this is their first year doing this thing with another training camp, another year, another everything.
31:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Ben Johnson knows the players better, the players know Ben Johnson better.
31:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe things like that, Colson Lovelin.
31:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for bringing that up.
31:42
[SPEAKER_04]: That is kind of the issue of doing live streams.
31:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Life streams are wonderful, but we don't have time to review everything all the time, but yes, great call.
31:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Colson Lovelin might have run a poor route and that might have led to that intersection.
31:55
[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe it wasn't all on Caleb Williams.
31:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I take it back Caleb Williams is even better than I thought.
31:58
[SPEAKER_04]: He's gonna be the next Patrick McCormack Holmes, like I said.
32:03
[SPEAKER_04]: But right in year two and year three,
32:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Are the quarterback and the wide receivers and the tight ends all going to all not know what they're doing if they know what they're doing 80% of the time now or they're going to know what they're doing 99% of the time 95% of the time okay, let me I don't know yeah I'm I'm using crazy stop on this mess right okay they'll know what they're doing more often.
32:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Mick fair, okay.
32:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's now let me dive into my bag.
32:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me get in the bag up and dive into this, right.
32:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Mick fair.
32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Mick.
32:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I've gotten Jordan Jordan.
32:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm in thank you.
32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I've said, Mick is in several times.
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Mick Fad.
32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Second, this is second season of Thursdays and with the beers.
32:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Man, I don't even know.
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a second.
32:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's been a true man for a snap for two years.
32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the point that I'm trying to get to though, right?
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one thing that we've talked about on here, going back to Tyson Bayjut talking about how the backups are so much more prepared on the this program than they were in the past, right?
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You sit here and we see when these backups are pressed to play
33:18
[SPEAKER_00]: they're way better prepared than they've ever been to answer your question, right?
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So in that, do you, we are, so a lot of people that begin in the season were asking like, why isn't Luther Burden playing over the keys?
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And Luther Burden didn't know all the plays in the routes, right?
33:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It was as far as the safety blanket.
33:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, loop of burden is probably the most explosive player on the team, right?
33:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably him and the under swift.
33:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I will put up there is most explosive players, but he can be as explosive if you want if you don't know what you're supposed to do one in a given route, but one in an option.
33:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and let alone, you may not just know the plays all the way.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I would think he's going to know more next year, particularly dangling the apple of look how successful you've been when you didn't know the place.
34:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Just wait until you know all the chefs, man.
34:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Coastal Lovelin is a stud.
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm a ty-worn guy, but coast and lovelin' is this, coast and lovelin' is a stud.
34:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just be frank and honest.
34:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Heat one, he is an air snatcher when it comes to grabbing the ball out of the air.
34:30
[SPEAKER_00]: When we talk about Rome being a body-catcher, that's not a problem for coast and lovelin', right?
34:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the guys that you have, I think.
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: If they stay healthy, fit the program and the next steps.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You have a coach that I think can choose the grocery's properly to go along with an old sentiment of billpar sales while he was a coach of,
34:56
[SPEAKER_00]: the Patriots in the Dallas Cowboys, as far as if you want me to make the meal, let me make the groceries implying what I'm saying.
35:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I like to be able to pick the players we're bringing in because I have to make up the schemes and the plays that they have to play rather than the general manager doing what they have he wants to do.
35:14
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I deserve working hand and hand for sure with the personnel.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, hand the hand that Ben Johnson leads to give me calls and love like that and Luther burden, right?
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was like, hey, that run it back.
35:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Tray my hinders is going to give me him, right?
35:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then let's get Aussie to pill it like they went off into the first three picks of the draft, right?
35:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, get Ben just to make this voice, right?
35:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And now, and it then this is a plus, they can go heavy on defense.
35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: with the charts three picks of this draft.
35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, they're going to use all three of them.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But now.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, that's exactly it do.
35:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right?
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You can sit there and say, if we want to settle the tackle situation with someone who is a penetrator, someone who maybe can be for their fibrillings, another edge rush.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You may sit there and say that Austin Booker is good enough, and maybe on the edge, we'll bring in a vet.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So it would be Austin, Montez, and then maybe a project.
36:18
[SPEAKER_00]: But you have now the amount of holes.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about a team dog and you know how we talked about people's, like, many of you left tackle.
36:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Dog, they need guards and a center.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't even know if the right tackle is good.
36:33
[SPEAKER_00]: The right tackle is nice, right?
36:35
[SPEAKER_00]: The right tackle is an all-pro.
36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: The right guard is good.
36:39
[SPEAKER_00]: The center is pretty good.
36:44
[SPEAKER_00]: As it's pillow, if he's healthy, maybe good enough to do what we need to do.
36:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But now we know, and playoff stances, so Tunee, we go, tell your ass out there to lift up.
36:53
[SPEAKER_04]: And honestly, hey, we need to talk more about Jordan McFadden and Joe Tunee.
36:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Now is a good time to talk about Jordan Tunee and Jordan McFadden who I looked it up.
37:01
[SPEAKER_04]: This is his third season in the NFL.
37:03
[SPEAKER_04]: It was his first season with the bears.
37:06
[SPEAKER_04]: He had not played very much in his entire
37:12
[SPEAKER_04]: in his entire career he the last two seasons he played three snaps on offense before this game in twenty twenty twenty five he played three snaps on offense and look at what they're a roshar and they they got out of him and but you did this in the growth of people in the street hand hand up all right hey you're right you're right hand up
37:34
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't tweet this out or anything, I didn't put it out there because I just wasn't on Twitter at the time.
37:40
[SPEAKER_04]: But I was definitely in text threads being like, whoa, Jotunni left tackle and Jordan McFadden is the plant.
37:46
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know about this because Jotunni was really good for a handful of games that left tackle for the chiefs.
37:53
[SPEAKER_04]: And then that Super Bowl came in and he was in trouble.
37:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Jotunni was in hell at left tackle and that's super.
38:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Joe Toney was in hell.
38:04
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was skeptical.
38:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I was skeptical of the plan.
38:08
[SPEAKER_04]: This is another growth point for me growth point.
38:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, dear, Alex that's for Alex Shapiro in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Trust Ben Johnson and trust the plan and trust Ben Dan Rochard because man, Joe Toney was dang good at left tackle and Jordan like fadden got the job done at left guard.
38:27
[SPEAKER_04]: So hats off to the two of them.
38:29
[SPEAKER_04]: What a phenomenal phenomenal performance from
38:33
[SPEAKER_00]: that she said, I don't know if you just came in, but that's what we were saying, that they have to do both.
38:38
[SPEAKER_00]: They need an identity.
38:40
[SPEAKER_00]: They need, they need, and they basically need one and a half on the edge of not two and two in an interior.
38:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But you would just say, but Alex, do you know one thing too?
38:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we need to say this too?
38:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
38:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this settles
38:54
[SPEAKER_00]: If there's ever going to be a job, a competition between Theo and Ozzy, even though that seems settled, that this tells us how they feel about Theo been in it.
39:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
39:06
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an active.
39:07
[SPEAKER_04]: After we talked so much about Brad.
39:08
[SPEAKER_00]: We know what we know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Activated from IR.
39:11
[SPEAKER_04]: But we know we talked about that.
39:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That's emergency.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to be there.
39:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But we know how they look.
39:16
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't feel comfortable that he can protect the quarterback.
39:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's beyond us like it has he because that's just do you think about Jordan Verse Jarvers would have done to him if he was out there with just book and like the same thing He said that he was gonna do the joke through and he'd do the broadcast as far as oh you got a guy It's $2.90 and I only I only worry about Gastree 50.
39:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He would have bull russ the livin You know what out of Brexton Joseph
39:45
[SPEAKER_01]: That slim, that slim backside, the Jackson, the Braxon Jones has, whether the took us has to stop something.
39:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you have to know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ben Johnson said that after the game.
39:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Ben Johnson said that after the game.
39:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He said the took us.
39:59
[SPEAKER_01]: He said the took us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said the took us.
40:01
[SPEAKER_04]: No, he said listen.
40:03
[SPEAKER_04]: We know what they're bringing on the defensive line.
40:05
[SPEAKER_04]: We needed a guy who could anchor.
40:07
[SPEAKER_04]: We felt pretty good about Joe Tony Anchor.
40:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And sure enough.
40:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not like Jared verse was invisible.
40:15
[SPEAKER_04]: No, sacks.
40:16
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not going to, you're not going to shut down Jared versus all day, but they did a pretty good job of minimizing him.
40:21
[SPEAKER_04]: And that took us that anchor.
40:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Joe, Tony, so shout out with a guard.
40:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You're doing that with the guard.
40:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of anything is spot duty.
40:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You did it with a guard, right?
40:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, like you say, shout out to them being able to pull it off.
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That's still listen.
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: They still lost.
40:38
[SPEAKER_00]: right.
40:39
[SPEAKER_00]: There was opportunities to win.
40:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to make this all rose colored.
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: They should have won the game when you look at the opportunities that they had.
40:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But this was a team playing with house money for a long, long time.
40:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes there's a country's singer that we all know.
41:00
[SPEAKER_00]: His name is
41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I thought to say Willie Nelson is not Willie Nelson.
41:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's um, the gambler.
41:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Stopper said no, no, no, it's not Kenny Loggins.
41:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my, it's Kenny Rodgers.
41:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Kenny Rodgers and country is not my forte.
41:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so sorry.
41:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Gee, we see, it's not either one of us, but it's you got to know when the hold, know when the fall, the
41:28
[SPEAKER_00]: No in the run away.
41:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And now is this that you got to know that in that day, the house money was on the line.
41:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, a field goal early, the game is tied again.
41:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just putting that like a field like sometimes.
41:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the thing where we talked about this with Ben Johnson.
41:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have to learn as a gambler when sometimes he has to hold them.
41:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just, and I'm a big, I'm a big Ben Johnson guy.
41:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But that Detroit BS of fourth down's eff it, you can't do it all the time.
42:04
[SPEAKER_00]: There's time, I know.
42:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's what I guess what, to your point, when you say earlier where Detroit, they could be like Detroit.
42:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, well, Detroit and Washington aren't the same because Washington, it seems like what look like a window is closed, not to say it may not open up, but Detroit has had seasons.
42:22
[SPEAKER_00]: and the tray hasn't learned the lesson of points on the board like like dogs sometimes those threes stack up that's just a true for the matter it could have been no seven right those three days it those three feel goes at the top it's nine seven and seven seven seven those threes the threes stack up man you you sometimes
42:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to know and again, he's a rookie at coach, right, but he has to know and again I like it look like me and you and Josh used to argue and understand so much When Eberflutches to do this and I was like that often sucks.
42:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Why did they think they could score two and why did they think they can go on for if when they can't even score a regularly?
43:02
[SPEAKER_00]: right and we right but again you you you you guys points were ballot one the league is changed right and one with with with him particularly two point converters and for them they actually get it done but the thing is to know when I need to use my trick power I think the thing is I think Ben Johnson was expecting my defense is going to give up 35 maybe four years yeah I think usually early in that football game early in that football game he's probably thinking like
43:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, we probably got to put up 35.
43:31
[SPEAKER_04]: If we told, if you go Ben Johnson in the beginning, your defense is going to hold the Rams to 17 points of regulation.
43:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I bet he is kicking those feel goals.
43:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I bet he is kicking those feel goals, but he's watching his defense just like we have, man.
43:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming.
43:46
[SPEAKER_00]: This is ego.
43:47
[SPEAKER_00]: What look?
43:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of this is ego.
43:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of this is, I'm going to show you
43:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like for it, because look, you had the floor last week.
43:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you got the floor mentor.
43:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you think he wasn't going to say, you think Simon Vainant coming here, like I'm going to show you for disrespecting my guy, right?
44:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And you think that Ben Johnson was like, oh, I'm a double down on the disrespect because I'm being Johnson, right?
44:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Like again, some of this and the thing that we've talked about is ego.
44:21
[SPEAKER_04]: So what's interesting was what's interesting about this little growth point potentially for Ben Johnson and might have worked out a lot differently when the bears tied the game or just had to kick an extra point to tie the game and send send the game to overtime.
44:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Ben Johnson said he was considering going for two and going for the win.
44:44
[SPEAKER_04]: but he opted not to based on the performance of the offense.
44:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Because our short yardage had been bad.
44:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Our execution inside the five, we had a plan for what was going on inside the five.
44:54
[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't working out, so we said, hey man, let's kick this thing and live today another day.
44:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But also the all rule of year at home.
45:01
[SPEAKER_00]: True, right?
45:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
45:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, you're able to have been playing well.
45:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Your defense is playing well.
45:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the right to go.
45:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think.
45:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right.
45:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like again, because we saw, hey, this wasn't the game for you.
45:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a couple of times we were like, oh, the Rams are ending it.
45:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And you they kept being able to resuscitate a chance of victory.
45:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But this wasn't the game for you.
45:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, listen, great season.
45:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
45:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that we need to punt some of this to our midweek episode.
45:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:36
[SPEAKER_00]: is there anything before we get into extra points and game balls you want to go before we get about here?
45:42
[SPEAKER_04]: I do want to shout out how we are bears who in the chat has laid out a very detailed and we can give very brief thoughts but how we are bears has laid out a very detailed plan for the Chicago Bears off season that I want to highlight because, next episode, we're gonna have a new chat is gonna be different and I don't want to lose this, so it's great.
46:01
[SPEAKER_04]: So how we are bears?
46:04
[SPEAKER_04]: starts with a surprise.
46:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Jacquan Brusker is going to the judge for a three-year deal with 36 million and says his concussions aren't worth it for the bears.
46:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Then, the bear's strong safety becomes CJ Gardner Johnson.
46:16
[SPEAKER_04]: We are moving CJ Gardner Johnson who apparently has been resigned.
46:19
[SPEAKER_04]: to strong safety, where he played with the Eagles, where he played with the Lions for a little bit.
46:24
[SPEAKER_04]: He's no longer a lot.
46:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Covers is a problem, even if you just bring him the last bangas.
46:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And then Tyreek and Terrell Smith are the backups, so I guess Nishon Wright remains CB2, so you have to re-sunt Nishon Wright.
46:41
[SPEAKER_04]: And let.
46:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Jonathan Owens go.
46:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I will said be said to see all the photos of Jonathan Owens and Simone Biles together.
46:48
[SPEAKER_04]: That's fun.
46:49
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a fun little side story.
46:51
[SPEAKER_04]: You're shaking.
46:51
[SPEAKER_00]: We need that.
46:51
[SPEAKER_04]: We need that for national coverage.
46:53
[SPEAKER_04]: We need to Simone Biles of it all.
46:56
[SPEAKER_04]: We need to put out this.
46:58
[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that she had to go to Green Bay and think about this.
47:01
[SPEAKER_00]: She had to think about she either had to.
47:03
[SPEAKER_00]: PJ the Green Bay or flying in Chicago and get the Green Bay when he was playing there.
47:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And now she gets to just come to Chicago and she's the greatest Jim.
47:12
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, she's the greatest in this of all time.
47:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to have her around.
47:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Championship culture.
47:17
[SPEAKER_00]: She's a backup.
47:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not even starting her money on special teams.
47:21
[SPEAKER_04]: He's fine on special teams.
47:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And that championship culture of the greatest Jim.
47:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, we need to go the go.
47:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, let's study one out of many stems.
47:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Step two, renegotiate extent, remain from one year, 17 mill to three year, averaging 12 year or else.
47:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Train up and down year.
47:39
[SPEAKER_04]: There were times where he looked great.
47:40
[SPEAKER_04]: There were times where when he had to be the guy,
47:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't look didn't look and lost the green dot and lost a green dot.
47:49
[SPEAKER_04]: I wonder how much of that success has to do with position changing and how much of that trouble has to do with moving back and forth.
47:55
[SPEAKER_00]: They move even if you think this is also let us know the type of guy that he wants.
48:10
[SPEAKER_00]: and he's said you know that he likes the dog a little bit more, even though like three handsome games, man, I like let's not forget before you got hurt.
48:20
[SPEAKER_04]: He was badly.
48:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's not like something like let's put some respect on his name to agree and then the rose the rose shine smith thing always messes it up to where it's like a quant Smith.
48:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
48:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
48:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I always do.
48:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I always flip rose shine Johnson and wrote wrote quant Smith, but the real quant thing influences how we feel about what Edmunds is and to agree that separate, but I understand conflating them different different linebackers doing different things,
48:50
[SPEAKER_00]: because you're talking about a guy in a four or three that really should be weeks out and they wanted him to play the middle, which he has to go backwards.
48:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And what you saw with Tremaine Edmonds is the length like a old bear's middle line backer and briner like her to be able to deflect and affect more passes over the middle.
49:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not the same thing when you're talking about apples to apples comparison.
49:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely great points, kind of.
49:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Number three, Resign, Demarco.
49:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I imagine Demarco Jackson, for $3 million a year, I think they'd be super happy to have that guy back.
49:24
[SPEAKER_04]: What a super sub-demarco Jackson was.
49:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, played, I think, pretty darn good for the Chicago Bears.
49:30
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, that feels like a no-brainer.
49:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Number four, let's Smythgo, consider Fossomer Road, $2 million.
49:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I actually think Durham's Smyth did pretty good.
49:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And,
49:38
[SPEAKER_04]: The Bears 13 personnel kind of became a bread and butter for them towards the end of the work about that.
49:43
[SPEAKER_04]: If I'm worried about the third Third try it end you're blocking tight end who catches like two passes.
49:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting like so much I think he's fine.
49:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I think but I also think if they wanted someone else to do the job You would be able to do that too.
49:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just one note, but But it's valid.
50:01
[SPEAKER_00]: He did he did really well particularly catching the ball when you're talking about the guy that you're thinking about
50:07
[SPEAKER_00]: is being parmary or a blocker, you did pretty much like full back, they had all three tight ends playing full back.
50:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody damn their play full back this season.
50:15
[SPEAKER_04]: All the midges of keys playing full back at some time.
50:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
50:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
50:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Deeds it like everybody was back there.
50:20
[SPEAKER_04]: But now we've gotten to CJ Gardner Johnson.
50:22
[SPEAKER_04]: He will be resigned for $4 million with incentives up to $6 million a year.
50:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I honestly think that's fine.
50:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Like CJ Gardner Johnson is bounced around a lot.
50:31
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like he is really at home with Dennis Allen and it feels like
50:35
[SPEAKER_04]: should stick together.
50:36
[SPEAKER_04]: CJ Gardner Johnson, it might be who from to stick with Dennis Allen, but that's a good pair.
50:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Six.
50:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's going to pay.
50:45
[SPEAKER_00]: They get cut again.
50:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Then they come back.
50:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Go get your bread and we'll see you in week five.
50:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Re-sign Kevin Byrd for one year 11 million dollars and draft a free safety in round three.
51:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, Kevin Byrd.
51:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Oprah, Kevin Barrett had a phenomenal year.
51:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Father time will catch up with him.
51:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Father time is undefeated.
51:10
[SPEAKER_04]: But my only want to talk about another vet.
51:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Good guy to have do breaking down the huddle before games.
51:15
[SPEAKER_04]: What's your thing?
51:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably probably only problem.
51:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're asking, like you just said, Father time and with the brisker thing.
51:25
[SPEAKER_00]: The issue is, you saw, and you saw in coverage what Brisker can do, because I think we're looking at him as being primarily a box safety, but you see what he can do in coverage too.
51:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And you really need both safety to be able to play free at times.
51:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
51:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, it particularly with an older Kevin buyer, and now you're saying an older Kevin buyer, and a kid that's learning, and then we go have another person learning as strong.
51:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we've talked about this.
51:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you bring everybody back.
52:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I think one of those old DBs, he probably shouldn't initially bring back.
52:08
[SPEAKER_00]: There's questions as far as what you do.
52:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I wouldn't be mad in the shine right coming back because I wonder, now this is your thing with out here is getting another job.
52:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have a great coach and staff, but I think out here is to him and their connection, they can work really on tuning some things up.
52:27
[SPEAKER_00]: how he broke down and caught Kyron Williams from behind.
52:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's nothing better if you've ever played football, but seeing because you grew up here in your coach to say, all right, you're getting the back feel and you break down behind that online.
52:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't just take an angle, you basically
52:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm alive and he went, so he came in from the right side and then he broke down to the left to be able to tackle Kyra Williams.
52:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he tackled him behind the line of Scrimmers.
52:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I could be wrong and made it before y'all.
52:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But regardless, when you see that type of execution and if he can do the little thing, so the thing with the shine right is he, we know he can do the big things and it could just be a flookie year where he did it, but can't he do the little things.
53:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll be interested.
53:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't stay the same either.
53:15
[SPEAKER_04]: today also Nishon right after he was banged up like not banged up but like he was getting torched delayed props for Nishon right 26 was not getting burned by very good wider severs for the grams of very good wider severs he was playing good coverage so shout out Nishon right seven is Nishon resigned Nishon right for three years 33 mil quite a payday for Mr. Wright
53:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He was your CB2 this here and you probably get it for cheap within that all right GM GM Davis says I know we can get them who like who like for you now you got to think some team does it I think a team will give him a payday
53:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think they're also gonna be cautious with, is it's just a fluke.
54:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So they may hit him with a large one year, it may be a two year deal was really a one year deal.
54:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think one, you know he probably likes it here.
54:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can probably get him with two in the option for something and then get to that second year if he's playing well and gets in the go shady.
54:21
[SPEAKER_00]: But still, I mean, most of the stuff is good.
54:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I know,
54:26
[SPEAKER_00]: chop a city is up ahead, but then it's okay.
54:30
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll get there.
54:30
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, number eight.
54:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Case Kingdom to quarterback's coach, which I guess means J.T.
54:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Barrett either going to...
54:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I told you that.
54:36
[SPEAKER_04]: He's getting fat.
54:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I told you that.
54:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Where he's getting fat.
54:39
[SPEAKER_04]: You're firing J. I told you.
54:42
[SPEAKER_04]: He's that he is another coach.
54:43
[SPEAKER_04]: He's the key to be three.
54:44
[SPEAKER_04]: He's always an active person.
54:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they need, no, no, no, no, no, no, I told you this.
54:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And this was after, I don't, I think it was the Lions game.
54:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They need a bet, they need, I don't care how much he plays.
54:54
[SPEAKER_00]: They need a former stud at why I received it to be in that why I received it wrong.
54:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And they need a former stud to be in that quarterback world.
55:01
[SPEAKER_00]: they do.
55:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you that he doesn't even want has to play.
55:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It can be a player coach, but they need someone who's lived in those battles to be in our Caleb and they someone who lived in those battles to be in their with those wild receivers.
55:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just telling you, that's my opinion.
55:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want them back.
55:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on back and he don't.
55:23
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we don't, it wasn't, it was, the love, the love wasn't there.
55:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll have to go through trying to fake.
55:30
[SPEAKER_04]: But Philip Rivers, how much do you like coaching?
55:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Philip Rivers isn't going to, I've, I've said that's what I used to it.
55:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't be, it definitely wouldn't be Philip Rivers, Joe Flacco.
55:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That wouldn't wouldn't be bad.
55:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Flacco?
55:44
[SPEAKER_00]: That one wouldn't be a bad one.
55:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And this delay back out like that one when they, but they need a guy who did it in their way.
55:54
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's long a two that dude had a hometown.
55:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
55:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They need a guy that was a player that came and bounced.
56:02
[SPEAKER_00]: They killed respects.
56:03
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the real thing.
56:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's you got some traction.
56:05
[SPEAKER_04]: You know how we are bears is fire JT.
56:07
[SPEAKER_04]: But we are promoting case game to quarterback scoge and
56:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Joe Flacco, you are the new emergency QB, congratulations.
56:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Number nine, commit, restructure, extend.
56:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I think this is the most interesting one.
56:18
[SPEAKER_04]: What on earth do the bears do with coal comets?
56:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's had some big moments late?
56:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Had some big moments when Carlston leveled was hurt?
56:28
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't let him, you can't let coal comets go.
56:31
[SPEAKER_04]: You're paying a tight end.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A whole lot to be, let's be on the other end, too.
56:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but you're not paying your tight-end one.
56:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still in a risk of your deal.
56:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and you liked being in 12, and you just said 13, there's no reason.
56:45
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason to hurt your 12 and 13 package when you have a great blocker and co-comment, and sometimes he's not, and a really good patcher, I'm a catcher.
56:57
[SPEAKER_00]: For a guy who's not fast, but he's good enough with speed, that we don't have to talk about
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[SPEAKER_00]: Until, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
57:22
[SPEAKER_00]: that you get rid of a guy that takes the hits, catch the ball.
57:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's not who we thought he was going to be.
57:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not who he was in the first place.
57:31
[SPEAKER_00]: We were so the false bill of goods that he was going to be this great pass catch and tight in and he's more of a combo guy.
57:38
[SPEAKER_00]: But now you have the pass catch and tight in and it gives the combo guy more opportunities because you focus on the damn pass catch and tight in.
57:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I am, I'm all on board.
57:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm all on board with what kind of Davis is preaching.
57:52
[SPEAKER_04]: 10, no's tackle for Renzo Fitu, Fitu, Kasi, I have no idea, one year, $2 million.
58:00
[SPEAKER_04]: We are now, we're on week three of free agency with how we are bears.
58:05
[SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about one year, $2 million deals.
58:07
[SPEAKER_04]: 11, no's tackle billings or Kale and Saunders, one year, three million, big bill, it is interesting.
58:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Big bill had been really good for a long time.
58:18
[SPEAKER_04]: and Big Bill had some moments, but it wasn't the Big Bill we all saw this here.
58:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
58:22
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think, Kenneth?
58:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's coming, so it's coming to an end.
58:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's done, I think that's the thing why I said you probably have to get two new tackles because you gotta get a nose, and you probably need a young guy, but you gotta get a nose in there.
58:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta get someone who can collapse to pocket.
58:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to do that in this draft.
58:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, okay.
58:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Now we got in real interesting.
58:50
[SPEAKER_04]: And we will try and breathe through this.
58:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Now we're getting real interesting.
58:53
[SPEAKER_04]: We are talking trades with the Tennessee Titans.
58:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to merge 12 and 13 12 trade to Vandre sweat acquire a minute trade with the Tennessee Titans and acquire three technique Jeff Simmons from the Tennessee Titans.
59:09
[SPEAKER_04]: You're just taking my entire Tennessee Titans interior, which by the way, is really good for the bears with
59:18
[SPEAKER_04]: crazy steam, but yeah, I don't know.
59:24
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an interesting crossroads, right?
59:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds really, really for playing Madden.
59:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I will have to do not many plays.
59:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to get the gift from free agency that and bring on my team and try to fit them in the cap to get try to get those plays.
59:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But I will still have to give away something.
59:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, if you can get one of them, it will be good.
59:41
[SPEAKER_00]: But getting to have both of their interior tackles doesn't seem the most likely scenario moving forward, but I love what would be very good on this football team.
59:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But how we are, we're going to be doing this.
59:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Into the draft of her agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So make sure you're back here as we move forward.
1:00:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure everybody is back here.
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes a week we're not going away.
1:00:06
[SPEAKER_00]: two episodes.
1:00:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here where we do some live streaming.
1:00:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's come together and try to figure this out as a team.
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_00]: All of us in the chat, Alex and myself, but just like Skylar said, props to Dennis Allen.
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Post, put that that right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That one right there, props to this album with the DuckTabee.
1:00:26
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: DuckTabee defense, that's a good one, right there, skylark.
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of people was taking so many shots of Dennis Island and he didn't have anything in the coverboard, but we were acting like he had all the groceries, and all the seasons, and he had not a, and he pulled off these, he helped the bears one to begin the season, his defense was the reason they were winning.
1:00:52
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's not forget that.
1:00:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:00:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was very few, there was bending and breaking, but there was very, there was very, there was very little breaking a lot of times throughout this season.
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So I, that's the real thing.
1:01:04
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a, there was so much that it's out of slander.
1:01:07
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the best way.
1:01:08
[SPEAKER_04]: He was, if man, if the chat was running the team, he would have been fired at halftime last week.
1:01:12
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just when he was
1:01:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Why oh, all right, like that, like you know how you don't appreciate having a veteran defensive coordinator on your team and you don't have four down line and that can get the job done and you see when Kyla Gordon is finally healthy all the way that he's like I got my stuff.
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go.
1:01:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't feel the way.
1:01:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't.
1:01:32
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was healthy and he.
1:01:34
[SPEAKER_00]: A, the drugs were flying, the drug were flying, the flat there was system, the good stuff, not the bad stuff, the stuff to help him perform as far as the pain medication, but he was he was he was he was he was ready to go, um, but yeah, game balls, what you got for me, no game balls in a long time, man.
1:01:55
[SPEAKER_04]: bears lose no game balls.
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_04]: We gave a lot of people flowers.
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_04]: We gave a lot of people flowers to quam brisker you played great.
1:02:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I got three game balls.
1:02:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I got three game balls right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, brisker Gordon didn't sell it.
1:02:16
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that was the seventh, you held them basically the 17 points, the best scoring offense in the league.
1:02:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You did your damn job, Dennis Allen.
1:02:28
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, it's not his fault they didn't score more points.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not even going to blame.
1:02:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Dennis Allen pulled everything out and was looking like the beautiful mind to Russell Crowe.
1:02:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, trying to figure out the numbers or whatever.
1:02:47
[SPEAKER_04]: She's writing on the glass in the glass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right.
1:02:50
[SPEAKER_00]: This element is everything he could.
1:02:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're not going to abuse him because the offense didn't get it done.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's give, let's with particularly when we burnt his you know what, let's not going to do that.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not fair.
1:03:03
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a good defensive, really good defensive coordinator here.
1:03:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:03:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he has, imagine if he had downwhelming.
1:03:11
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so those are my game balls.
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, for those three people, that's all the game balls I believe that I have.
1:03:20
[SPEAKER_00]: We will give our seasonal awards sometime in the upcoming weeks, but I'm gonna give those DBs and Dennis Allen for sticking it to them, and basically after the first touchdown stopping the MVP of the league, all right, presumably.
1:03:37
[SPEAKER_00]: right oh yeah presumably right like so I presume that so you're talking about something that hasn't been happened since Tom Brady a Randy Moss and Will's Wacker Will's Wacker Walker what's Walker thank you Wacker it's late y'all guys yeah and we're about to get out of here it's now something yeah and I had to work and then come home and watch me work
1:04:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Touchdown yards, right?
1:04:10
[SPEAKER_00]: No, touchdowns and passing yards, touchdowns, right?
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_00]: He had threw the most touchdowns, he caught the most touchdowns, he had the most shards.
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And you stifled all of that, you get props for that.
1:04:23
[SPEAKER_00]: In a playoff game, all right?
1:04:25
[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about avoiding the NFC West, and you almost took it, like this was a game that you guys probably should have won and it wasn't on the defensive side that you probably should have won.
1:04:37
[SPEAKER_04]: That's your progative.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I say no game bells and bells.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I ask you progative.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It is my progative.
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It is my progative and I'm right.
1:04:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And your reports that have to do with football before we get out of here.
1:04:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't want to hear about no album that just came out.
1:04:51
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I got no extra points.
1:04:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I got no extra points.
1:04:53
[SPEAKER_03]: We've been streaming 12-50.
1:04:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll bring you more music records and reality TV later this year.
1:05:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I got next to point, hey, shout out to Seattle for making the best decision.
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_00]: that Quasi Adolfo, Mr. didn't make, and that's holding on to Seth Darnell.
1:05:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And, but also really drafted that defense.
1:05:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause, oh, after I was watching them, she's like, why do they defense the players look different from everybody else?
1:05:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Just how I was just, I was like, damn beasts.
1:05:24
[SPEAKER_00]: What was that?
1:05:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You can be different.
1:05:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, shut out to the Seattle Seahaw's from Winner in Super Bowl.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my extra point.
1:05:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what is honestly, maybe the most disappointing for me personally?
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were robbed of the, of the S. E. Bowl.
1:05:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Sam Darnold versus Caleb Williams, who's the best SC quarterback in the league.
1:05:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Sam Darnold who had the greatest Rose Bowl victory of recent memory, just unbelievable performance in the Rose Bowl.
1:05:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Caleb Williams won the Heisman.
1:05:59
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't have the hardware, the team hardware, but we were robbed of that to SC, to SC the legends, man, that's a bummer that would've been great.
1:06:09
[SPEAKER_04]: That would've been great personal theater for me.
1:06:12
[SPEAKER_00]: For you, being an SC alum, but that's what we have the best SC quarterback in the league.
1:06:17
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Sam Donald's just getting his stuff together.
1:06:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Before I almost used the curse word, all right, he's just getting his stuff together
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[SPEAKER_00]: where Caleb was in year two, bringing back, with not that defense, bringing teams back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think the number checker I call of a drug, the New York checker I call of a drug.
1:06:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, say that also to the Carolina Panthers and the Minnesota Vikings, just to name a couple of teams that he's visited in the longest path.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But all right, everybody, we'll be back this week.
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1:06:53
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[SPEAKER_00]: So everybody, we're appreciate it.
1:07:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we're upset.
1:07:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But man, this is one hell of a season and we're going to dive into this season.
1:07:13
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to dive into what the bears need to do moving forward.
1:07:16
[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate you for taking this time or night to see here and I chatted up in the chat with us chat.
1:07:22
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on chat?
1:07:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, about what's going on.
1:07:25
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