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7-17: Benton is in, Aaron Goldsmith and Anders Hirst! · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: No from the Star Rentals Sports to us your ninety
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  Speaker 2: Man, here we go off and running headlines are brought
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  Speaker 2: to you by Frostbrewed, cors Light hus Chill. World Cup
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  Speaker 2: coming to a crescendo this Sunday. Stay just set for
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  Speaker 2: the finals. Spain and Argentina going at it at noon.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to it all right here ninety three to three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 2: Jackson Feld's Furious Felts and the rest all a big
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  Speaker 2: part of the crew helping carry this for you. Frans
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  Speaker 2: and England face off tomorrow for the third place pay off.
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  Speaker 2: That game, of course, in Miami on Saturday. Mariners finally
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  Speaker 2: back at it. Two nights after the All Star break,
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  Speaker 2: they host the San Francisco Giants, opening up a three
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  Speaker 2: game series. Bryce Miller on the mount against Landon Roupe,
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  Speaker 2: first pitch at seven to ten. The team also reportedly
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  Speaker 2: going to be giving their pitching stat the six man
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  Speaker 2: rotation treatment. We'll see how long that lasts. But Bryce Miller,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Wu Logan, Gilbert Emerson, Hancock, Luis Castillo, George George
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  Speaker 2: Kirby all love you come on down looking like they
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  Speaker 2: will pitch before the Mariners head back out on the road.
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  Speaker 3: That was very price with bright Price is right, Price.
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  Speaker 2: Is right, Come on down. Don't call me Rod Roddy.
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  Speaker 2: Please don't call me Rod Roddy Saunders. Oh boy, just
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  Speaker 2: didn't get thrashed. They got the wheels beaten off them
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  Speaker 2: last night, but the Timbers losing five to one. Brian
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  Speaker 2: Schmitzer led it all air outs post game last night
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  Speaker 2: in the NBA, Lebron Gay continues the non decision keeps
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  Speaker 2: going here for those who actually care, we're waiting for it,
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  Speaker 2: saying that he has not yet decided on a team.
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  Speaker 2: ESPN carried that I believe about roughly sixteen years ago,
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  Speaker 2: the decision with Jim Gray. Yeah, if you do it
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  Speaker 2: this time, are they? Are they going to do it
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  Speaker 2: on Stadium plus.
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  Speaker 4: Just oh call she zoom whatever teams some like some
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  Speaker 4: gambling up there.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Jim Gray back in his in his home office,
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  Speaker 2: like with a hoodie on, maybe even pj's. That's so
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  Speaker 2: anti twenty ten British Showpen update. We got more for
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  Speaker 2: you later on, but Lucas Herbert in the lead at
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  Speaker 2: the moment and plenty of players going low at Royal
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  Speaker 2: Birkdale as we had of the finish line of Day two.
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  Speaker 2: More of that coming up coming up here for the
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  Speaker 2: British Open, and about roughly ten minutes or so onto
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  Speaker 2: the show we go.
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  Speaker 5: It kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Feels like that we're at the recess period. I said
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  Speaker 2: this for the Seattle sports landscape, really for everybody at
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  Speaker 2: this point a year, it's like the quietest, most dead
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  Speaker 2: part of the entire year.
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  Speaker 5: Best sports schedule.
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  Speaker 4: Do everything that you have to do for vacation wise
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  Speaker 4: during this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg's out, Ian's out Softi's I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: he is.
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  Speaker 5: He's due back in next week at some point. So
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  Speaker 5: we're just kind of making all.
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  Speaker 3: These pieces of course somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, he's got his he's got his massive endorsement money.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably slinging it around, you know, some private club
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  Speaker 2: guests who I guess.
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  Speaker 3: We do not want to know what club he's at.
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  Speaker 5: I can't wait for next Monday, just the Pepperinc. Questions.
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  Speaker 5: I'll be back in later on next week.
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  Speaker 2: Jackson's also going to be holding the fourth down with
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  Speaker 2: Greg still do out here for a few days, but
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  Speaker 2: he's back soon. Yet, we got a lot to cover
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  Speaker 2: because it kind of feels like this is the calm
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  Speaker 2: before the storm, the calm before the storm. The Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: are about eight days away roughly from training camp. This
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  Speaker 2: is the last weekend off that we have without any
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  Speaker 2: kind of football until next February. Can you believe it?
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  Speaker 2: We've almost hit the finish line. We have almost hit
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  Speaker 2: the waiting period finish line for the Seahawks. It just
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  Speaker 2: seemed like yesterday that we were all packing in the lumen,
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  Speaker 2: packing the streets right around downtown Seattle, with the parade
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  Speaker 2: going right by and basking in championship glory Lombardi Trophy
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  Speaker 2: number two. But now the weight will finally be over
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  Speaker 2: after next weekend, right back to Virginia may An Athletic Center,
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  Speaker 2: and then tonight the Mariners finally get a going out
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  Speaker 2: of the blocks here for the second half of the
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  Speaker 2: regular season. Whereas about three months ago, I believe one
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  Speaker 2: of my dear friends and filling in after me for
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  Speaker 2: Ian Chris Crawford, said, I demand a world Series. Well,
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  Speaker 2: here are the Mariners one and a half games back
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  Speaker 2: in what has been a putred, a putred American League West,
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  Speaker 2: and for as much gritting and gnashing of teeth as
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  Speaker 2: we can make about this baseball team. They are still
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs if they began today. So the work
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  Speaker 2: really begins now and we're going to get to I
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  Speaker 2: think a few reasons why Jess this homestand against the
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  Speaker 2: Giants who are just a five alarm tire fire, the Reds,
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  Speaker 2: who are a five.
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  Speaker 5: Alarm tire fire.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot overlook this homestand because of what is waiting
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  Speaker 2: a the corner. And I hate cliches where you want
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  Speaker 2: to take care of business, but they really have to
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  Speaker 2: take care of business because we've seen questions of when's
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  Speaker 2: Kal gonna wake up, When's Julio going to wake up?
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  Speaker 2: When's Brendan Donovan going to come out of the protection program?
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  Speaker 1: Here?
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  Speaker 5: Where? I mean, where the heck is he?
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  Speaker 2: We finally found out that that back in Arizona, his
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  Speaker 2: rehab is getting going here, but it's been forever since
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  Speaker 2: we've seen him. Are they going to trade somebody for
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  Speaker 2: a right handed bat? Are they going to trade somebody
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  Speaker 2: here for this bullpen? There are just so many questions
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  Speaker 2: circling this baseball team, which the most important one is
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  Speaker 2: just don't go out at home and lay an egg
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  Speaker 2: against the Giants and the.
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  Speaker 4: Reds bring the fans back in. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we have to think outside of the box. Besides what's
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  Speaker 4: going on, you know on the field is bring the
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  Speaker 4: fans back in because that plays can be so much
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  Speaker 4: fun and there's no way the players don't feed off
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  Speaker 4: of it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you remember last year in the postseason, right, yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I remember the text message from Jackson Felts when we
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  Speaker 2: were all in the press box for Game one of
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  Speaker 2: the Alds and Jackson said, holy cow, this and this
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  Speaker 2: is also in the first inning. Holy cow, it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like third down at Lumen.
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  Speaker 3: Now that is a compliment.
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  Speaker 5: For a sports town that creates earthquakes.
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  Speaker 2: For the World Cup, for the NFL postseason, baseball postseason,
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  Speaker 2: that sounds like third down at Luhman, tell me about
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  Speaker 2: this one. Stanley Cup playoffs here in Seattle sound like
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  Speaker 2: third down at Lumen. That was for Game three against
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  Speaker 2: Cal Theorada back in twenty twenty three. So you've got
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  Speaker 2: to make your hay here at home. But we're just
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  Speaker 2: kind of at the point now where it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: just really ramping up call before the storm is as
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  Speaker 2: we say, pardon the cliche. I hate cliches. I'll do
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  Speaker 2: it anyway here, But the World Cup's almost over as well.
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  Speaker 2: That will come to an end on Sunday. You got
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  Speaker 2: some beef here with this thing ending in East Ruth
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  Speaker 2: for New Jersey.
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  Speaker 5: Anywhere else?
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  Speaker 3: I sure do?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean New York is New York number one market
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  Speaker 2: in the country. Yes, it's just like, say, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: end this in San Francisco, but do this in Santa Clara.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, kind of, except it's a completely different state. Yeap, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: I think that they could have chosen better when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to it. However, East Rutherford, New Jersey, does have
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  Speaker 4: the New York market when it comes to television and
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  Speaker 4: the broadcasting intentions.
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  Speaker 3: I have.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry if you could tell by my voice, New Jersey
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  Speaker 4: is not the representative of the home continent that this
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  Speaker 4: World Cup is taking place.
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  Speaker 5: You grew up there? How many times?
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  Speaker 3: I did not grow up there.
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  Speaker 5: I grew up in New York exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I should say this, like, how many times do you
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  Speaker 2: have people that you know come from Jersey and say
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  Speaker 2: I'm from New York And if.
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  Speaker 5: You do have, hell do you get lapped out?
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  Speaker 4: Nobody who's actually from Jersey ever, ever, would say that means.
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  Speaker 5: That lies a problem, that there lies a problem, are.
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  Speaker 3: Proud of it.
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  Speaker 4: So this is happening in New Jersey, which has really
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  Speaker 4: good pizza and a couple good beaches with some really
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  Speaker 4: weird people on them. So I'll give them a lot
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  Speaker 4: of credit for everything that they have. However, that is
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  Speaker 4: not the stage that I would put this global event on.
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  Speaker 5: And it's just a bear getting out there too, to
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  Speaker 5: that state.
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  Speaker 3: Eum, oh, it's just it's horrible.
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  Speaker 2: You were there back in the Super Bowl back in Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I was thirteen years ago, Yes, twelve years ago.
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  Speaker 5: When the sea goes to.
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  Speaker 4: The winter of twenty fourteen. Yes, and no, it was
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  Speaker 4: not fun. And the commute is really not easy and
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  Speaker 4: that whole place is going to get swarmed.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be very, very difficult for everyone.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that any host city would be
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  Speaker 4: easy to get around, but the logistics when it comes
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  Speaker 4: to there, because obviously, like let's say it's Spain in Argentina, right,
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  Speaker 4: you're traveling from across the world, so you are going
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  Speaker 4: to probably stay in New York City probably probably, if
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  Speaker 4: you're correct, I would stay on a beach somewhere, But
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  Speaker 4: the commute will be very difficult.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I get all the business logistics here behind this.
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  Speaker 2: I get just the whole you know, market optics behind
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  Speaker 2: this with going to New York. But I mean again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to open talkbacks here. In the text message
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  Speaker 2: four nine four or five ons a coomadadge text line,
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  Speaker 2: if you if you ran this, would you play this elsewhere?
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  Speaker 2: Would you play it in Los Angeles? Technically Inglewood as
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  Speaker 2: so far? Would you play it here? Would you play
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  Speaker 2: it here? Seattle did an unbelievable job.
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  Speaker 5: How many times?
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  Speaker 2: How many times did we hear over and over word
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  Speaker 2: on the street to national broadcast? Seattle was maybe the
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  Speaker 2: most impressive turnout with fans, support, in the stadium and
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  Speaker 2: all around it compared to any other market in this
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  Speaker 2: World Cup.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think the major concern, which is why
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  Speaker 4: we haven't had a Super Bowl here is hotel space.
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  Speaker 3: And now since.
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  Speaker 4: A long time we have the light rail, we have
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  Speaker 4: more mass transit that we've had in the past when
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  Speaker 4: people were considering major events here. There's a lot more
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  Speaker 4: that we have to offer. But I do understand the
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  Speaker 4: concern when it comes to the capacity.
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  Speaker 2: I want to hear your talkbacks on this and also
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  Speaker 2: the text messages four nine four five one to Komodos
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  Speaker 2: text line, but top backs are open, the doors are open.
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  Speaker 5: I want to hear from you.
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  Speaker 2: Would you put this World Cup elsewhere for the final
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  Speaker 2: besides Eastweather?
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  Speaker 5: For a New Jersey?
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  Speaker 2: And was Seattle enough to show you that they could
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  Speaker 2: host a final New Jersey?
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  Speaker 5: Is this not going to leave you?
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  Speaker 4: No? It's it's like born in my bones, is it?
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  Speaker 4: Because when I say I'm from Long Island and everyone
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  Speaker 4: assumes it's New Jersey, and that is a very, very wresh.
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  Speaker 2: I have the perfect antidote, by the way, the dulcal
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  Speaker 2: tones of Aaron Goldsmith, who'll be joining us right around
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  Speaker 2: the corner of Mariners TV play by play, because the
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  Speaker 2: Mariners open the second half of the season tonight. Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Goldsmith's up next. For now, this update from the British Open.
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  Speaker 2: Our weight is nearly over tonight. The Mariners are finally
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  Speaker 2: back tonight after the All Star.
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  Speaker 5: Break and All Stars slumber, and it kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of feels like they're gonna easeing their way in here
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  Speaker 2: to this thing because the Giants are on tap, the
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  Speaker 2: Reds are on tap, and then the climb gets extremely
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: steep after that based on the opponents. So you talk
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  Speaker 2: about making Hey, the time is now, Mike Benton and
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  Speaker 2: for Greg Bell with Jessamin McIntyre here for today. Also
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: we have more takes in the Mariners hometown coming up
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  Speaker 2: at ten forty five plus. Also andrewser is going to
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  Speaker 2: be with us additionally at eleven am to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the World Cup Final third place game Argentina Spain.
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  Speaker 5: You name this here, but so we're gonna be getting
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  Speaker 5: it going.
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  Speaker 2: Finally with the Mariners taking on the Giants tonight at
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  Speaker 2: seven o'clock, it will be Bryce Miller on the mound
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: against Land and Roup, which will then begin the process
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: of the six man rotation. Whereas still we're trying to
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  Speaker 2: find out plenty of answers to where all these pieces
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: are going to fit with what has been just what
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: I love hearing Jerry Depoto call an over booking of
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: this pitching staff and to see where this all fits.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: We had the piggyback thing that came and went. Now
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  Speaker 2: the six man rotation, we'll see how long this slash.
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  Speaker 2: But to finally talk about everything coming out of the break,
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  Speaker 2: he is ready to go finally on the mic after
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  Speaker 2: some well needed time off well rested, the Dulcetones the
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  Speaker 2: Mariners TV played by a play man, Aaron Goldsman, joining
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  Speaker 2: us right now on the Beacon Plumbing hotline, Goldie, Hello,
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  Speaker 2: how are you? How is the All Star break for
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  Speaker 2: you and family? And were you able to get to
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  Speaker 2: bed on time and get to bed earlier?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, going to be with you, man, Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: Ulco break was good, as always, a little time away,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably good for everybody, and ready to get a
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  Speaker 1: going tonight for what hopefully we'll be a strong second
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  Speaker 1: half of.
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  Speaker 2: The MS three game homestand coming up great to hear
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  Speaker 2: from you. We're looking forward to the call from my man.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a long way to go before we hit
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  Speaker 2: the postseason. But when you consider what's ahead here, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the likes of the Rangers, the White
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  Speaker 2: Sox were playing better, the Dodgers as well, how do
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  Speaker 2: you define the gravity of this homestand given who's waiting
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  Speaker 2: the weeks after this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think the Mariners are at a position now
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  Speaker 1: where every road trip, every home stand, every series is
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  Speaker 1: really important. That the Mariners still are the odds on favorite,
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  Speaker 1: whether people want to hear that or not. To win
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  Speaker 1: the West and potentially even win the Pennant. But the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners have to start playing like a team is capable
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  Speaker 1: of doing that, and we've seen them do that in
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  Speaker 1: spurts this year, certainly the last homestand it looked like that,
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  Speaker 1: but then that was all washed away on the previous
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  Speaker 1: road trip that we all remember to Florida. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Maritors are in a spot where they in a
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  Speaker 1: different universe of how they would be playing. They could
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  Speaker 1: have a five, six, seven, who knows how many games
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  Speaker 1: lead on top of the division right now, and instead
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  Speaker 1: they're playing from behind. I think on paper they're still
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  Speaker 1: clearly the best team in the West and one of
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  Speaker 1: the best teams in the American League, but none of
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  Speaker 1: that matters if you don't have enough wins in the
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  Speaker 1: win column to prove it at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: So the Mariners certainly have time. They're barely on the
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  Speaker 1: outside looking in in terms of the American League West standings.
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  Speaker 1: There's plenty of time to regain with a little ground
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  Speaker 1: that they have lost. But the Mariners, let's face it,
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  Speaker 1: they're in a position where they want to not only
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  Speaker 1: be in first place in the division, they want to
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  Speaker 1: be in first place comfortably, and they have the talent
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  Speaker 1: to do that, but they have to start. Simply, the
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  Speaker 1: guys in the clubhouse just need to start playing to
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  Speaker 1: their potential. And if they were to do that, and
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  Speaker 1: they can do that, the Mariners would be in a
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  Speaker 1: much better position. And for them, that starts tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And that's also a great point given the fact of
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  Speaker 2: so many whatevs and one of those what evs is
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Cal Rawley and the injuries and maybe what of the
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  Speaker 2: numbers are better and we're not talking about maybe the
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  Speaker 2: historic pace he had set last year, but just can
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  Speaker 2: he finally you know, get some balance offensively and put
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  Speaker 2: up you know, you know, close to you know, expected
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  Speaker 2: power numbers for him? So I think, for as tough
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  Speaker 2: as what he had for the first half, what's the
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  Speaker 2: best perspective to you on how he got here with
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  Speaker 2: Cal this season and what he has to do here
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  Speaker 2: for the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, yes, it was a lost first half for
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  Speaker 1: Cal whether that be through injury or under performance or
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  Speaker 1: one of those leading to the other. But the good
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  Speaker 1: news for cal Rawley is that there is a whole
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  Speaker 1: second half in front of him where he can be
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  Speaker 1: some version of the player that we have known for years.
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  Speaker 1: At this time, nobody's asking cal Rawly to hit sixty
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  Speaker 1: home runs in the second half of the season or
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  Speaker 1: at any point this year. What the Mariners need from
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  Speaker 1: cal Rawley is what they need from a number of players,
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  Speaker 1: and that is they need some power now. The Mariners
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  Speaker 1: right now are twenty seventh in average. They are twenty
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  Speaker 1: eighth in slugging percentage, and that has led to them
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  Speaker 1: being twenty eighth in baseball and runs scored. This is
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  Speaker 1: a lineup that certainly we all know has been shorthanded
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  Speaker 1: this year, a variety of injuries up and down the lineup.
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  Speaker 1: They are generally quite healthy now, with obviously Julio status
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  Speaker 1: up in the air for when he can come off
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  Speaker 1: the concussion il. They are clearly still waiting for Donovan
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  Speaker 1: speaking of unfortunately lost first half, But when the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: end up hitting for power, they end up usually winning games,
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  Speaker 1: and for the Mariners that typically means home runs. They
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  Speaker 1: do not play in a double friendly ballpark. The Mariners
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: are essentially dead last in doubles this year, which is
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: something that happens quite frequently for the Mariners. T Mobile
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Park is just a double's graveyard. Unfortunately. It's shockingly I
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: know this is surprising. It's a significantly easier ballpark to
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: hit a home run in than hit a double end
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: and the numbers on the park factors would bear that
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: out year over year over year. And the Mariners have
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the good news. The Mariners have ample players in that
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: lineup who are capable of hitting the ball over the fence.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that there won't be games where they
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: score runs by straining together hits. That doesn't mean that
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: they will never hit a double again. Certainly, it's baseball.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Anything can happen, and over the course of six months
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: season a lot of things do happen. But when you
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: look at the Mariners when they are doing good things,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: it's because of two things, in particular, starting pitching and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: hitting home runs. They've had the starting pitching. We'd all
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: know that whether it's been a six man rotation, a
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: five man rotation earlier in the year, a piggyback. I mean, honestly,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: almost any iteration of the rotation this year has been
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: good for the Mariners. Overall. They simply need to keep
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the pitching and start hitting home runs. It kind of
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: comes down to that. It's a simple thing to do
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: but very hard to execute.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Back to the home runs thing is Aaron Goldsmith joins
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: us right now with the Beacon Plumbing hotline, and I thought,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: for Brendan Donovan's case, it looks so promising and maybe
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: even a little bit of an omen with that bomb
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: he hit back in the season opener, way back in March,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: and when he's back in me it seems like a
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: massive pressure valve that is released for this lineups benefit.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: And of course we hear that August maybe sometime that
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: could be when he's due back in. But to you,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: what's the impact of his bat and his glove when
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: they can get him back in there.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Well, A real threat at the top of the order
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: right especially against right handed pitching, there's no question about that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: And a guy who, although we haven't seen it all
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that much firsthand, unfortunately because of the il stints in
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the first half from Donovan, but a player who's just
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a real tone setter. I think he's a guy that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: just his style of play is a real energizing force
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: for the Mariners. He's another veteran, another guy who's got
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: some hardware on his mantle, who is getting more at
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: bats in theory than anyone else in your lineup batting
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: leadoff like he does so often, so he lengthens the lineup.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: He helps with other guys and maybe their better spot
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: in the order. A guy who will be a constant
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: on base threat. And yeah he has he can pop
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: some homers, as we've seen, but that's not his job.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: As I was just talking about needing to hit more
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: home runs, well I wouldn't say that Donovan's the guy
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: who needs to hit home runs. But you know what
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: his job is. His job is to get on base
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: for the guys who will hit home runs so that
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the solo home runs a two run or the two
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: runs a three run. That's how the Mariners end up
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: winning games. That's how they won the division last year.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: And the Mariners have all the guys who are capable
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: of doing that, and we've seen some real breakout seasons.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, dom Can's own obviously comes to mind where
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the Mariners be if not for his homers this year
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and his just overall ability to hit this season, which
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: has been lacking at times for the Mariners. So they
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: have the pieces to do it. They are becoming more
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and more healthy. They just simply need to start playing
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: to their ability, which I think every one in that
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: clubhouse would be saying the same thing right now. And
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: they're all capable of it. That's the good news.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: It seems like yesterday that Dan Wilson took over. I mean,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four ended in bitter disappointment, but this team
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: had a good run in the last month of that year.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five nearly sent this team to places they
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: have never been before. I mean, this year, it's been
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: roller coaster and a lot of factors at play. But Aaron,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: how do you define Dan Wilson's impact two years into
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: this job nearly here to the counter.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Date, Well, I think dan secret sauce is just his
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: ability in the clubhouse. Obviously, he's he believes in his players,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: maybe more than any other manager believes in his and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that's an impossible statement to prove, but that is Dan's makeup.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And I think the players really love playing for him
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: because of they know that he has their back. He
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: has the conviction in each one of those guys on
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the twenty six man roster, and I think that's that's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: what makes him the manager that he is, and that's
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: what makes players want to play for him. You know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: as a guy who used to call games side by
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: side with Dan, he is He's a great connector, is
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: what he is. When when Dan walks in the room,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the room is better, it feels different, it feels better,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And I would imagine that that's how it feels in
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: many ways down in that clubhouse with Dan involved in things.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: And you're right. Last year was a pretty historic season
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways for the Mariners, and Dan
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: had a big impact on that. And you know, Dan
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: is not the first manager in the history of the
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: game to have a clubhouse that has been underwhelming on
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the field, that is at the midway point, and so
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: now it's a matter of what role can a manager
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: play and help getting a team out of that. There's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: only so much a manager can do, obviously, but setting
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the right culture for guys to be able to have
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that kind of a turnaround is important. It's not an
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: easy thing to do. There's a reason why there's only
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: thirty guys doing that job in the universe, and Dan's
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: got one of them. So there's certainly a role for Dan,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, he's not the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: one in the box with the bat in his hand
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: or on the mount with the ball in his hand.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So it does come down to the players ultimately, but
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the manager certainly does have a roll in it as well.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Aaron, that is something that has been widely talked
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: about with Dan one getting the interim job and then
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: being immediately hired as the manager. And I, just like
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: you said, have noticed and witnessed exactly how he can
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: impact a room. So do you think that this is
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: something that we could see moving forward in the world
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: of baseball.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I'll keep it in baseball, but.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: I've seen it in other sports as well, where someone
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: who can just.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Change a room.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: How does the relationship work when it comes to the
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: on office, you know, decision making and everything. He's clearly
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: the I don't want to minimize his role, but the
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: personality that comes in. So how does he work with
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: other people who can mitigate in game situations?
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: How how does that work?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Well? I think the game has come a long way
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: since when Dan was playing for Loopenella. Right now, I
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: can't speak to the to the exact chain of command
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: of when.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: The I did not want to put you in that position.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, yes, no, no, Like all, I'm trying
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to say, is you know when when Sparky Anderson and
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Loopanella and those guys were running clubhouses and running teams.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Obviously it was a lot different than it is now.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: There's it was significantly less information then than there is now.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And I think if you are a major league manager,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: whether you're managing for the Marlins or the Mariners or
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, you you have to be a connector because
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: there's not a single managerial job in today's era of
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball where you are not forced to take
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: input from the analytics side, the high performance side, so
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: strength training, and the trainers, I should say, maybe more
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: importantly from a player development standpoint, from a Bolton management standpoint,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's endless the tentacles that come into just
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: who is available, who is can we put in the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: right positions at the right times to have the highest
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: level of the greatest chance of an outcome in our favor.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It's not just one guy running it like it was
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: fifty years ago. Let's say, so that is not something
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that is unique to the Mariners. There's twenty nine other
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: guys who are having to do the same jugg we
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: act that Dan Wilson is doing. Now and I think
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it has made it. Truthfully, it's made the game better
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: because there are a lot of smart people working in
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: uniform and out of uniform that can help impact the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: game and help get a win for their team. And
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the bottom line is, guys, it comes down to the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: manager's decision. I mean, it's the manager who is the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: one making the call of are we going to pinch
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: it here or you can go to this lefty here,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: or are you going to let the righty face one
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: more batter? Well, the endgame stuff comes down to the manager.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Now that might not be true in every organization, but
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson is the manager. It's his call. There's a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: lot of input into how you might get to the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: process of making a decision, but the ultimate decision does
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: come down to the skipper. So all you're doing is
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you're empowering a manager with more information and I think
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: more people. No matter what you do in life or
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: for a living, you'd like to have more information than
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: left than less than to make a proper decision. And
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: so in some ways the job has become easier from
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the standpoint of you can now take more input from
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, whether it be your bench coach
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: or hitting coach, somebody from pitching analytics a trainer. So
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in some ways it's easier from that regard, because it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: not just you having to figure out everything on your own.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: But in other ways, there's a lot more information to balance. Right,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: it becomes a little tricker because now you have to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: be able to process all these things as the game
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: was playing out, and the game moves very fast. Every
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: manager would tell you that now, but the longer you
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: do it, I would have to imagine the game gets
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: slower in a good way. But this is the modern
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: day manager, and it's not just the Mariners, it's every team.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And I would say that there's no doubt that Dan
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: when he was thrown in the fire halfway through the season,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: what two years ago, that was probably drinking out of
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: a fire hose. But I would imagine that a lot
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: of that has started to slow down, just like it
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: would for any manager. And two years, three years, five years,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: ten years, there's a reason why guys who've been around
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: for a while probably processed stuff better just the longer
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they've done it. Just like anything else in life.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: That's great insight.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Aaron Goldsman joins us once again here on the Beacon
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Plumbing Hotline, and Aaron Jerry Depoto said the other day
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: in print media he wants bull pen help and as
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: far as the offense, I mean, just you know, kind
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: of summon this up from a long answer. He said
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: that the best players we can acquire are the best
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: players we have, quote unquote. So I think, to you,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: what's the meaning of adding pitching down the stretch versus say,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: another right handed bat down the stretch as well.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: In terms of the value to the Mariners for either
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: one of those two, Yeah, well, I think both are important.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I think the right handed bat will be hard. That's
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: not to say that it can't happen, but will be
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I just don't think that there's a great surplus of that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And the other thing too that you all have to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: be mind we all have to be mindful of, is
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, the American League is so many yocre right
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: now and doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon, at
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: least in terms of the trade deadline in the early
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: days of August, that there's a lot of teams that
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: are going to feel like they are in it. And
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: what happens when there are a lot of teams that
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: feel like they are in it. What do they do?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Do they trade? Do they sell? No, they want to hold,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and maybe they even want to acquire. So you will
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: have a lot of teams who are trying to buy
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the same things, whether it be a right handed bat
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: or another Bolton arm, specifically a leverage Bolton arm, and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: they're going to be likely very few teams that are
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: willing to sell. So this much I think we can
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: all agree on. There has hardly been a team, maybe
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the Padres, that has been historically more active at the
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: deadline in recent years than the Mariners. We all know.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I can't even think of all the names that have
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: been acquired at the deadline for the Mariners because there
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: have just truly been so many over the years. Anybody
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: from a Randy to a Gino, to a dom can
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Zone to a nailor right like Castillo is what's got
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: it all started many years ago. The list goes on
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and on. And the other thing is that the Mariners
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: will have as much trade capital of any team in baseball,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: There's no question. So they have the the right people
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: who are running the show to make a trade. They
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: have the right prospects on the farm to execute a trade.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: It just simply comes down to is there the proper
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: match for a seller, And it takes two And that's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the thing you have to always remember. It takes two.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: You have to find a partner who's willing to give
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: up for what you're willing to give. And quite frankly,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: there have been a number of deals in the past
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: for the Mariners where they have felt like they have
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: had a better offer from a prospect that they would
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: be willing to give up than what the team that
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: they lost out to ended up giving up to the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: team that was trading. But duty's in the eye of
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the beholder, and that's what it comes down to as well.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: So some people like strawberry ice cream, some people like
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: chocolate ice cream. If you got chocolate that you're selling
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: and they want strawberry, you're out of luck, right Sokay.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Su cream kind of got here. But that's just me though.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's truthfully that I mean, that is certainly a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: part of making a deal. The Mariners have as good
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: of a track record of making a deal as anybody
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: alongside aj Preller with the Padres. So now the Mariners
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: also have the benefit in terms of is it a
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: bat or is it an arm or hopefully both for
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: them where you have a couple of kids and the
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: miners right now who you feel like potentially could come
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: up and impact your bullpen once the rosters expand, and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: god willing, the playoffs come around for the Mariners as well,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: so they don't have that luxury necessarily for a right
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: handed bat. So it'll be very interesting. I think it'll
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: be a very tough deadline this year from a buyers standpoint,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: and man, if you got something to sell, this is
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the year to sell it because you can really catch in.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: And of course we're all looking at Kate Anderson and
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Ryan Sloan right back down to the miners and scene
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: if it's a matter of when not if they make
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: it up here. Aaron, really appreciate this, been too long,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: but looking forward to hearing the dulcenttones back of the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: mic for you and have a good call, my friend.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Appreciate you.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Hey, good visiting with you guys. We'll tell you later.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Definitely, Aaron Gold's been joining us here at the Beacon
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Plumbing hotline. We got some good intel out of that one.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I think the bullpen's a big thing and I kind
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: of go back Jess to where we were looking at
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: this six man rotation, and something that our airwaves brought
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: up the other day is not just finding out where
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: these pieces are going to fit when it comes to
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the postseason, because the conversations the Mariners have said have
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: already begun with where starting pitching is going to fit
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: in a September and an October plan.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Do they deal from that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: For another bat I mean, I'm not sure Aaron painted
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: a Rosie picture to see if there's a right handed
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: back coming this way here for this team, But yeah,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: you have to also right exactly, and to be fair,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: he can't. But I think even then you have to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: also consider what you can do in the postseason if
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: you can add somebody like Kate Anderson, who some folks
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: are saying might be the best pitcher on this team
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: once he's called up, and Ryan Slolon as well, maybe
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: once he's called up.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: It's a think about Trig Savage last year with the
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Blue Jays.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair, it's fair, fair comparison, I guess I
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: would say, yeah, yeah, I'm very happy with this pitching staff,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: oh goodness, yes, But I think the biggest question is
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: the management of it. Within and where do they go
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: forward is the biggest question.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Because we saw the piggyback thing that blew up.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I was there that night when we had the first
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: piggyback experiment and we're saying, oh, Bryce Miller was humming
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: like he was a no hit or territory going into
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the sixth inning, and then they had to bring in
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Louise Castillo.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: He was humming.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: But then you get to the ninth thading and then
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: we're thinking, where's Andres Munnos And we're just gonna throw
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Louise Castillo back out there. And the wheels fell off
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: of that very quickly.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Well, the one thing that and I'll go back to
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: ian show when we had Jim Bowden on and said, oh,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: actually that was with Greg.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Sorry, that's my bad. I work on a lot of shows.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: But we had Jim Bowden on and he's specifically said
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: that they are saving their pitching for September and that
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: that is not the worst thing that could happen.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Is to have that.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: And I just I can't question someone who did what
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: they did last year. I just don't like to question
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: what I've seen a success. However, we are not necessarily
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: seeing the success.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: We expected right now.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: You can never have enough pitching in September and October.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: What you have to do is put them in the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: right spots to succeed. So can you do that in
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: the crunch time situations beginning now when this schedule's going
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: to ramp up like a rocket ship going across the globe,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: when we talk about pace and when we talk about
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: how tough these opponents are going to be, can Cal
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: finally get back on the tracks. When Julio was back
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: and he's healthy, can he finally ramp it up as well?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: That's also what's going to propel this team, and they
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: need to get propelled as well. We're gonna talk more
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: about the make or breaks of this solm stand because
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: they're kind of feeling that the Mariners have got to
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: make ky But what's gonna happen here for this how
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: much is it make or break? But you tell us
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: right now. Talkbacks are open also four nine, four or
• 34:16
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• 34:19
  Speaker 2: with Jess beIN right.
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  Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. We had some good stuff from Aaron Goldsmith. Great, great,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: great conversation. Find that later on Greg Bell's show. What's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Mike filling in for Greg with Jessamine? But that's gonna
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: be there at twenty four to seven. Got some intel
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: as far as how all this works in case you
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: forgot or needed a refresher as well, because the Mariners
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: face the San Francisco Giants, they'll face the Cincinnati Reds,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: and then it gets extremely steep and it just kind
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: of feels like final boss after final boss in this schedule.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: So how confident are you right now with what the
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Mariners have from Dan Wilson all the way down to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the health of their lineup and their pitching staff. Four
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: nine four five one to coma DOAJH text line, but
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: hit up talk backs. We will get to those coming
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: up at eleven thirty.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I don't want it.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe extend myself and exaggerate, but I just can't get
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: past the feeling despite the Mariners being at home or
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: they have been good recently, yet compared to what happened
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: with just what was a road trip that just fell
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: off the wheels in Miami and Tampa Bay. How much
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: they have got to make Hay against the Giants and
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: the Reds. One of the few things I want to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: get to just as far as what can make or
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: break this homestand and what could be a make or
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: break part here potentially of the year, because after this
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you've got what just seems like a murderous row of
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: teams Texas Big Series game and a half out of
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the Mariners, the Dodgers at the Dodgers.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: Minnesota is coming in.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: There middle of the road, but they're in the hunt
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: for the American League Central Detroit is better, Tampa Bay
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: is Bite your knuckles tough at the Yankee bite your
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: knuckles tough at Milwaukee, bite your knuckles tough.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: The Cubs.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Also the Cubs, who have been very very good this
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: year despite being fired back of the Brewers, then the Phillies,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: then at the Blue Jays, and really, aside from Detroit,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: you get no massive pushover in this schedule until the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Angels in mid September. How's it gonna look by then? Exactly,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: how's it gonna look by then? I mean, you need
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you need this series here, you need this home stand here.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: It's it's the Giants coming in who have been We
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: all knew that they're that they were gonna be dropping
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: way back in the National League West. But I mean,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: it has just been a massive tire fire this year
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: under the new skipper and the Reds who bring back
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Gino Suarez as well on the roster. Yeah, I mean,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, really really, despite the tough postseason that he
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: had last year, aside from that goal of the moment
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: he had back in Game five of the Alcs, he's
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: been a true heart and soul kind of guy. But yet,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: when when you when you consider that the Rangers out
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: of the gate have six trade against the Braves and
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the White Socks. The Braves who play great ball, they
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: lead the National League East. The White Socks are much much, much,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: much much better. That's pressure right there to take care
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: of your own business, because who knows what the Rangers
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: could do right now? That lead could be right back
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: with the Mariners by the end of this home stand.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: The als is the weirdest thing I've I think I've
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: seen since I've moved out here, and I moved out
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: here before the Astros were even a part.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Of it, and the Astros were terrible, absolutely terrible, And
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: it's scary to think about, scary to think about where
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: where like where where where they could be if health
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: was intact. That's a scary part of this because they're
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: still a lurking right now in the American League West.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Okay, the game and a half back of the Mariners.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Everything that you're saying and what we have been saying
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: since the beginning of this show, take care of us.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to against the Reds and the Giants.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: So that's making Hey.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Number two is Julio's health when they get him back
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: in three and six record with him out of the lineup.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: He was hitting five hundred in the previous five games
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: before he was at It's apparent the bat was starting
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to warm up. They've got to get his bat, and
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: they definitely had to get his defense as well back in.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Although it's taking a bit of a turn off the
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: rails at some points of this year, but Julio's health
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: is number two.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: I think for me as well as cal Rawley's bat.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: We brought it up Aaron Goldsmith brought it up a
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: two hundred hitter over the.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Last ten games. But I think dig Fane.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I believe, brought up a wild stat about a couple
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: of or a seclea a seven. Yeah, exactly here stop
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: the presses several days ago. I think he had to
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: hit something like, I want to say, close to you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: four hundred to get to like the two hundred mark
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: by the end of the season. That's just how tough
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the season's been for cal Rawley. So, I mean, the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: mystery with swing issues goes back into the world Baseball classes.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: But they got to get him back on the tracks.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Very quick six man rotation Brian Wu Drastic Homan road
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: splits home has been much better for him. I mean,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: if you go with a five man rotation, he could
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: still get sneaking two stars, but they want to try
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: six man. So we was just gonna get one start
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: out of the gate before they go back on the road.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: I think to me, also, George Kirby, up and down,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: up and down.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: The hit count's been high for him, lately, But how
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: is he going to respond when he finally takes the hill?
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: And then Tuesday you got Chase Burns going for Cincinnati,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: who has just been lights out this season. You're gonna
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: go Emerson, Hancock or the wist Castillo for that game?
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Who knows?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: But given the fact out close the trade deadline is lurking,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: could this be the last time the Louis Castillo pitches
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: at T Mobile Park? It could very well happen in
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: this homestand it could in this homestand because then you
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: go back on the road, you have the Rangers in
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: that series, you have the Dodgers as well, and then
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: finally again this is Dan Wilson's influence, and I think
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Aaron Goldsmith's shed some light just based on how much
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: despite the modern day manager and I tend to agree
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: with him, it's different back when we were talking about
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the Tommy Lasordas, Earl Weavers, Sparky Anderson's how you know
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: they were kind of the autonomous figure running matters in
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the clubhouse. And this is way way way before analytics
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: crept into sports, just let alone baseball. But you have
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: to be a connector to the front office because it
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter whether you are the Rockies, whether you are
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers. Analytics plays into decisions, yet it is on
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the manager from the sixth ending on. And when we
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: think about how many games have fallen off the rails
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: for the Mariners this year, and the decisions I already
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: touched on the piggyback gate situation, his influence will begin
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: to yield more and more impact down the stretch.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: The Cleveland melt melt down.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Almost one example, the hits at this team took in
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: the sixth inning when platoons come into play. And this
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: again the energy that has been lagging on the field,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: which brings us into question, what can you do to
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: spark the energy, to bring up the energy. There's gotta
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: be something there to show that you've got to push
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the right buttons when the stakes get higher, because a
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: seat for this job is already getting warmer, and we
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: heard so on these airwaves earlier here, So make or
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: break here for the Mariners. It begins now despite the
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Giants who have been bad, the Reds who have been bad.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: But when you think about the schedule that lies ahead,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: you cannot take this series against the Giants or the
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Reds as well, for granted. One guy we don't take
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: for granted, especially in this World Cup that comes to
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: an end here for this weekend is andrews Hers. He
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: joins us after this two talk more World Cup in
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the final Spain or Argentina.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: How do you do?
• 42:54
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  Speaker 2: is officially a thing of the past. Beginning at seven ten,
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• 44:35
  Speaker 2: the decision, this is a non decision, saying that he
• 44:38
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• 44:41
  Speaker 2: on ESPN with Jim Gray. I have no idea are
• 44:44
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• 44:47
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• 45:02
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• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Who shot sixty two? Was it just one? Guy. You
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: gotta wait and see.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: But updates on that coming up soon after the show
• 45:19
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• 45:24
  Speaker 5: I'm getting PTSD from this song. I've heard it so
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: many times.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: Welcome back to Iheartradios coverage to the twenty twenty sixty
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: four World Come.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Oh wait, do you do you actually wake up with this?
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: No?
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: I do not. I've heard it wait too much.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: It's buried within the depths of your soul, in your brains.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: It's like you at the Kraken Audio Network theme song.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I swear like when I hear Hans Zimmer. Yeah, I
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: hear Han Zimmer. It's like Pavlov's wait wait, I have
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: to come back.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: I joined rejoined.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Mike in for Greg Bell. Greg's offer today, and you're
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: a jest. Samon McIntyre talkbacks. I want to hear them
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: four nine four five one. Also Takoma Doage text line.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: But hammer us right now with your talkbacks. We'll just
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: keep this simple. Your expectation of the Mariners here in
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: the second half.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: The have the talkbacks also four nine four five to
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: one on the Tacoma Dodge text line. But we got
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: to some great stuff with the World Cup. It comes
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: to an end much to Andrews and FIFA Feltz's chagrin
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, But yet waiting on pins and needles because
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: he's got some family who's got some stake in the
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: game here, is anders hearst because Argentina is facing Spain. Yes,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: as a family holding up by the way, they're doing well.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: They're doing well.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: The colonizers lost at least at least.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: One of them did.
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: We still got Spain to conquer as well, so hopefully
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: that will end up happening. No, I'm just kidding, but yeah,
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: I mean it was such a great semifinal matchup, and
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: you say, to my chagrin, yes, this has been such
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: a one event and I've been been lucky enough to
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: be such a big part of our coverage here. But
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: I'm also kind of a little bit ready for over.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah it's been Have you been working too hard?
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: Maybe, but no, it's it's been for something that I
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: truly love. So it really hasn't been working at all,
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: to be honest, but I am a little it's getting
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: to the point where it's like, okay, finish line is here,
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: let's let's let's be done. And thankfully I'm actually not
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: doing the final I was a little disappointed when the
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: schedule first came out that I wasn't doing the final,
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: But the longer that it goes on and now, especially
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: since one of my two teams is in it, I
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: would have been just an absolute nervous mess during the
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: entire thing and I wouldn't have been able to kept professional.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: If Argentina wins. Do you look for a baby, Onesie,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I think we already have one. Oh yeah, yeah, what
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: my wife.
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: Wifed up at one, not two, not three? Well, I
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: think he actually grewd already, so that is true.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: We need another baby.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: He's a big babys I just put it on the back.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: My goodness.
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: He is a USA and in Argentina one. For those
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: who say that I'm an American, he is both.
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: Don't worry.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I mean I want to get to Leo Messi here,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: by the way, who was just torpedoing narratives that he
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: cannot play in crunch time anders right now? I mean
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: he's looking for you know, back to back one in
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: But has he officially ended the goat debate? Yeah?
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: I think if you're looking at all the major sports,
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: there are some sports like your expertise in hockey where
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: there's just no debate, and who's the best of all time,
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: it's Wayne Gretzky. Yeah, right, I think you could say
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: the same for American football as well, Tom Brady. Pretty simple.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: It's a little bit different because then you go by
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: position and stuff like that. But yeah, I think most people,
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: when you ask them who's the greatest football player of
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: all time, it's it's Tom Brady. And I think for
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: the longest time, soccer fell into the category of the NBA,
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: where it was you know, you you have your side,
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: Maybe you prefer Lebron, maybe you prefer Jordan. Some people
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: throw Kobe into that conversation as well. But even if
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: you truly think one side is so much better, there
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: was at least an argument for the other side, right,
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: and it was Lionel Messi, Christiano Ronaldo, maybe Pele, maybe Maridonna,
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: depending on how you feel about the previous generations. But
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: I think it has to really it's it's getting a
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: lot closer to the hockey and football side of things
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: now where it's just like, well, there's not really much
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: debate about what you can say. The only thing that's
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: left is really Pele having three World Cups and Messi
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: having one as of now. But because of everything that
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: he's done at the club level, that gets a little
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: overlooked because the international level is just what's on the
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: biggest stage all the time. With the World Cup, I
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: think that helps him surpass that, and that's helped Christiano
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: Ronaldo get to this conversation as well. It's just he
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: hasn't done it at the international level. So Messi has
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: kind of both those things going for him now, and
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: no matter what happens, I think that the conversations already
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: over at this point and it's all just about him
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: and his legacy. He's looking for the first team to
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: go back to back the World Cup since nineteen fifty
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: eight and sixty two in Brazil and Pele did it,
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: but no team has actually ever won four consecutive major
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: international trophies. So Argentina won the Copa America, which is
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: the continental competition for South America. So they won the
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: Copa America in twenty twenty one, the World Cup in
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, the Copa America in twenty twenty four,
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: and now they're going looking to do the World Cup
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: in twenty twenty six. So going consecutive all four in
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: a row has never happened before any team in men's soccer.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: Talkbacks are open four, nine, four or five one.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: To komodajh TeX's line, has Leo Messi ended the greatest
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: of all time debates? Talkbacks are open four, nine, four
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: or five one as well. I go back to the
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: England match, and this is where a lot of us
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: who are still curious about this game can really begin
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: to learn more of the nuances of the sport and
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: just the fact that England was this enrope adult mode
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: once they got the lead. But yet I loved how
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Jackson phrased it this morning. It's like you're punting on
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: first down, and if you're facing New England, you're not
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: giving the ball back to Drake May. You're giving the
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: ball back to prime Tom Brady with Randy Moss, with
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: all those weapons from prime Patriots years, and just crossing
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: your fingers hoping that your one nothing lead holds up.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: What'd you make out.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Of that game? Yeah?
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, as much of a fan and as much
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: as I was rooting for Argentina, I can't be blind
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: enough to see that England kind of did it to
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: themselves a little bit, I think, for the majority of
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: the game until they scored England. I don't want to
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: say it was the better team, but they were comfortable
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: their game plan had worked to that point, and the
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: fact that once they scored, they just completely abolished their
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: game plan. It was very similar to them playing against
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: Mexico where they had a lead late in a game
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: and they decided instead of just you know, the best
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: form of defense's attack sort of situation, they just decide
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: to defend for thirty minutes and it barely worked. Versus Mexico.
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: This isn't Mexico. This is this is the defending world champions,
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: all the accolades I just mentioned earlier, and an Argentina
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: team that continues to you know, do it in the
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: big moments, find ways to win it. Honestly, Hopefully the
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: result doesn't matter or doesn't match what my comparison's going
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: to be, but it reminds me a lot of the
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: twenty fourteen to fifteen Seahawks. So the year after they
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: won the Super Bowl, where they weren't really like I mean,
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: they were still a very very good team obviously, but
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: they weren't as dominant as they were in that first
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl run. They continue to find ways to win,
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: and we all know what happened in the final, so
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: hopefully that that the different outcome happens with that comparison,
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: at least for my liking. So but the other thing
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: about what you mentioned about Jackson is his pick to
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: one with Spain and my pick to one was Argentina.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: And they're facing off in the final, and here we.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Go, because of the Bay begins, who's got the upper
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: hand because Spain has just been a tour de force
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: of lockdown. Just one goal can state it, my goodness
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: in this entire World Cup. But yeah, I think before
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: we get into the weeds of Spain Argentina, you call
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the cardiac crew. Yeah, eleven times they scored from the
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: seventy fifth minute onward.
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's this is a much different team, even though
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: it's a lot of the same players as the twenty
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: twenty two World champion team. The twenty twenty two World
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: champion team, you could tell was desperate to win at
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: least one in Messi's you know, prime, maybe late prime
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: at that point, but they were dominant in every single
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: game they played. The results still were in question at
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: some points, but they would end up figuring it out
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: in the end. This hasn't been the case this tournament.
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: Their first game was good, but then ever since then,
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: they haven't really shown the true ability for the entire
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: of the game. They start poorly in almost every single match.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: That wasn't necessarily the case versus England. I think both
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: teams were just kind of feeling themselves out at that point.
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: But every time they've had their backs up against the wall,
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: they seem to turn it on at the right moments,
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: and I think that's the sign of a true champion,
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: to be honest, when you know when you need the
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: clutch moments, that's when the guys step up. And the
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: best thing I think for them is, Yes, Messi's been
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: an amazing player and the best player at this tournament
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: so far, but it's not just him. They're not like
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: earlier in the tournament they were basically handing it off
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: to him and saying, Okay, you need to score otherwise rescrewed.
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: That's not necessarily the case anymore. You're seeing other players
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: step up and score goals. Messi two assists in the
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: game versus England. Yes, he created them. You have to
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: have other players to score them as well. I think
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: that bodes really really well for Argentina's chances because they're
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: going to need their other players to step up versus Spain.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: So let's get to Spain.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, la mein Yamal who might be the young headliner
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: of this game and for his country and few future.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: And folks, if you haven't google this, go back and
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: find a two thousand and seven photo with him and
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Leo Messi, except Yamal was fresh out of the womb,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: five months of baby, and here's a photo of Leo
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Messi actually giving him a bat that has made its
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: rounds all across And there's a great story behind family
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: and that connection here. But I mean, let's all talk
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: about his game. How far much has this confidence taken Spain?
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: How much can his game really go next level here
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: in this final?
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I do think that going into this tournament he
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: was kind of touted as one of the guys to
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: really look out for. I mean, he came onto the
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: scene in the Euros in twenty twenty four. I mentioned
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: the Copa America for Argentina in twenty twenty four, that's
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: the South American competition. The Euros is the European competition, right,
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: So that's the other major international trophies. Spain won their
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: Euros as well, So we have the South American champions
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: versus the European champions facing off at the World Cup.
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: Just makes total sense. But he was a seventeen year
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: old at that point, and he was the best player
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: at the Euros with like all the best players in
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: the world, you know, playing in this in this major
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: tournament obviously, and I think a lot of people expected
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: him to really explode at this World Cup. Hasn't necessarily happened,
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: but he's taken the mentality as a nineteen year old
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: of hey, you know what, I don't need to be
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: the guy.
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: We just need to keep winning.
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: In Spain, they don't necessarily dominate teams in terms of
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: the score line, but they dominate in terms of the
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: passages of play, the midfield, battle, the possession. And I've
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: heard death by a thousand passes exactly, and that's kind
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: of exactly like we make the comparison you're a hockey guy.
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: I think they play a lot like Carolina, where they
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: just they very suffocate you to death. You don't get
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: a chance to possess the ball at all, you're you're
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: going to get very few chances against them, but they
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: don't necessarily score five to six goals a game. It's
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: it's it's very much. It's a lot of one zero,
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: two to one wins, right, So there's a lot of
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: similarities there. So I do think with Spain though, if
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: they are to this does feel like a passing of
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: the torch moment because you mentioned the photo shoot with
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: Lamina Mal He was born in the Barcelona area, now
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: plays for Barcelona. Messi at that time when he was born,
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: was like an eighteen year old just coming up into
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: the Barcelona ranks and out of everyone, like this random
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: family just decided like entered into like a sweepstakes to
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: try and get to a photo shoot with Lionel Messi
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: and they ended up winning it. And there's a lot
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: of you know, greater beliefs out there that the divine
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: influence that think the reason that del and you Mal
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: has taken the steps that he has and becoming possibly
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: the next great player in this world is because he
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: was touched by Messi basically at birth.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: So Andrews is joining us live and studio, I think
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: we all love to be touched here by a legend
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: app kind of like the old christ weird.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, let's get this back on the track, sir,
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: When when when when?
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: When we talk about Argentina and Spain, there's obviously a
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: struggle of two playing styles here.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: So Argentina's got the weapons, Spain has a system, They
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: have the lockdown approach. How do you define who has
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: the upper hand out of the gate?
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think.
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: I talked about this with Jackson on our podcast tech
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: are tactically Spain has the advantage they can, Like I said,
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: they dominate every game they play in in terms of
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: the possession battle. The question is whether they will make
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: that dominance show on the score line. Right, Argentina are
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: more comfortable not having the ball, not having possession than
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: Spain are. But are Argentina going to get the volume
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: of chances? I said the same thing when Spain faced France, Right,
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: A lot of people thought France would kind of roll
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: over Spain because of how much attacking firepower they have.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: Argentina is a little bit more of a balanced team
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: than France's. So I expect this to be another level
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: of competition for Spain to get through because both Argentina
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: are very solid in the midfield as well, more so
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: than France. And then they have obviously what's going on
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: with you know, Messi, Julian Alvarez, Enzo Fernandez, a lot
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: of players in the attacking portion of the field as well.
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: So I do think Spain tactically had the advantage. But
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: you mentioned the cardiac kids. Man, when you have that
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: something special that you can always lean on, eventually you're
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: gonna go to the well and it's gonna be empty, right,
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: So maybe that is now at this World Cup, maybe
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: Spain proves their dominance and comes out victorious. But you
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: always have to be aware of a team, a championship mentality,
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: team that's ready to kind of do it whenever they
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: absolutely need to.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about this final being played in
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: East rut Theford, New Jersey, versus say somewhere else like Dallas,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles or even up here.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: Obviously I'm biased to Seattle. I think this atmosphere would
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: be second to none. It was it was, so that's
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: that's a whole Another discis I'm not a huge I
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: don't really care that much where it's played, as long
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: as if it's not in Seattle.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: I don't really have a preference where.
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: There is there is Jersey, Yeah, yeah, sure, but I
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: mean there is questions about the and I just chained
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: it up.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: For her and just o'clock New Yorkers versus New Jersey.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, even they call it New York New Jersey Stadium,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: right because it's like a slash even though it is
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: in New Jersey.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: As you mentioned, so the teams are from New York.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that New.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: Jersey doesn't actually have a team, but we have to
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: play there.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, true.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: However, we were talking earlier about the transportation issues, and
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: there are several and what I was mentioning is people
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: who are traveling from around the world will more likely
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: stay in New York City in that area to see
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: New York might be the one and only time they
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: could ever see New York. And the transportation getting over there.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: It's not the worst, but there are multiple options.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: But it's not ideal, right, No, it's not.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: And we had those discussions when the Seahawks went to
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl there too, obviously.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: Cute years ago, I.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Took a team bus getting out of New York City
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: for a game at New Jersey back in January. And
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: when you consider just how close at least distance wise
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: New York City is Madison Square Garden to where the
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Devils play. It took at least forty five minutes to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: get out of the city, get through the turnpike, and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: finally get on the road.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: That actually is a very good community.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: As that's not a good day, right, that's awesome, That's
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: not a good day.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, it just I think it's an odd
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: place to choose it.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's the New York market.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: They need the East Coast time zone for viewership, and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: television controls everything these days. I just steel for the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: people who will try trying to be at the game.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: I do think like logistically it would have made more
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: sense somewhere like Dallas or LA because of how far
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: it is away from the stadium and the parking and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: stuff like that.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: So sorry, fire away is from the city. Personally, I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: don't care.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to the game right The only thing
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: I'm worried about is how the smoke will affect it.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Andrews only cares about Andrews.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I was actually talking to my dad yesterday, who is
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: driving to his college reunion in West Virginia, and it
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: is extremely hazy.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, that's yeah.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: It's pretty bad.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: My sister is living in New York right now, as
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: mentioned the same thing. So hopefully it doesn't affect the game.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: That's the only thing I'm really worried about. So if
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: there's some sort of delay, that would be quite a buzzkill.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: So television decides everything, and there's money in the game,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: they're gonna kick off all the time.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: So let's wrap this up here for the benefit of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: the Hearst family. Argentina wins this game if and Spain
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: wins this game.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: If go ahead.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: If Argentina wins this game, if they're able to limit
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: Spain's offensive chances, I think if they are, you know,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: I don't think Spain's gonna win this game one zero
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: is what I'm saying, because they have a lot of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: those types of wins in their knockout stages. If if
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: they continue with that trend, I think Argentina will at
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: least get one goal and they can at least take
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: it to extra time. If not get more than one goal,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: Spain wins. I opposite if they if they score more
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: than one goal, I think they will be in good shape.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: They kill off games better than any other team. Obviously,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: it's it's hard to kill off a game, as we've
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: seen versus Argentina, but if any team can do it,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: it is Spain if they get more than one goal. Honestly,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: I think whoever scores first wins the game. I think
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: if Argentina score first, Spain will have to come out
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: of their shell and it will force them to kind
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: of do something they're not used to doing. If Spain
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: score first, they're just gonna lock it down, and I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: think they're gonna this might be the one time where
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: if Argentina go down late in the game, they won't
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: be able to come back. So whoever scores first, In
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: my opinion, Andrews, you did find work.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: We are smarter because of you in this hockey world,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: in the soccer world appreciate it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, hopefully the hockey world too. But you know, oh yeah,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: hockeyead soccer head.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: At the same time, give me Opening Night coming up
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: on October first, But in the meantime, give us this
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: World Cup finals. It's gonna be a great one. Last
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: team to go back to back was Brazil back in
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two. Argentina is aiming for that against what's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: been a jugger, not Spain teams. Here it right here,
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• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: a Laker. He's a guy who came into play for
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: the Lakers. Yeah, but he is not a Laker. No,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: he is not like Kobe was as a Laker. He's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: not the way that Magic was as a Lakers shack.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Do all those guys get statues outside that building at
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: the formerly known Staples Center now crypto? Shaq's got one,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Kobe's got one, Magic's got one?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: Does Lebron get one? I don't think so.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: No, No, he's he's a cavalier.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: He's a cavalier. He's a he's an Ohio guy.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: He's looking to He's a modern day kind of guy
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: where if you want to call it ring chasing, fine.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: I tend to kind of hate that term because every
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: every guy wants to win a ring.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Ye.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he's he's always looking to move the goalposts
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: of where he thinks he has the best option.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Mean.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Bottom line is loyalty is out the window period loyalty
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: some sense, it's got to be a corvette that.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Went away with the decision.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I remember, I remember where I was back.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Even though he went back. I remember where I was too.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: It was a pivotal moment in sports history.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: I remember I was on the treadmill back at a
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: gym and stocked in California when I was working in
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: minor league hockey, and everyone in that gym, and it
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: was a massive gym. Also, it was built out of
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: like a former bank building and the whole bottom floor
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: was like renovated from like a bank vault into like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: it was a really really really cool gym. But everyone's eye,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: every monitor in this place was dialed into ESPN, and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: everyone was glued. It didn't matter whether whether it was treadmill,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: whether it was elliptical, whether it was wait's over in
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: the corner.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: They were all glued to this thing was a big deal.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Two three On the text line, if I'm not mistaken,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Jamal was hurt the two months leading up to the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: World Cup. To me, he's been really heating up here
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: in the last two games. Two five to three. This
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Argentina team is a ninety five Arkansas Razorbacks and March madness.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: If you don't remember, look it up. And that's why
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Spain wins on Sunday. What a reference for those of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: you around here for this the Kingdome, the Final Four.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I watched it on TV back in the day when
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: you see LA beat Arkansas and Arkansas had some dudes.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: They had some dudes.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Clinton McDaniel NBA, Corey Beck NBA, Corlis Williamson NBA. UCLA
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: had a pretty good lineup, Toby Bailey, Tya Sadney, who
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: hit one of the greatest game winning shots in March
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Madness history, the Obannon Brothers, Georgzitak, who wasn't a slouch
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: at center as well, but they had a guy who
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: was pushing all the right buttons in Jim Herrick. I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: know that there was some recruiting stuff going on, and
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: we can talk about that separately, but there was a
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: solid lineup yet Arkansas was loaded. Arkansas was loaded. So
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: I love that comparison. And this is why a lot
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: of folks are picking Spain. It's system over talent. It
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: is a system over talent.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: It is going to be an extremely exciting match, to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: say the least.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Six.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: I'm actually really really bumped about it.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: Sorry about that. Sorry, yeah, sorry about that. Sunday.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for that too. Two O six no
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: MESSI no Messy. No, no, no, nope, Messi has not
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: ended the greatest of all time talk. Please, I'm sick
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: of it. I'm sick of the hype. It's sports radio
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: and greatest quote unquote is an endless topics. So it's
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: perfect for it. But any sports fan who has lived
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: through more than one generation of players knows it is
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: a meaningless conversation. Okay, I disagree, but your favorite Za
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Dane's my favorite? Remember from France from the two oh six.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Sdan, thank you?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's I thought you were dark.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: The overhype of Messi is there and rooting for Spain
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: in the final left from the two oh six. Okay,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: I still think Messi is the greatest of all time.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: And I've seen some guys come on through.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of greats.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of greats. But I mean is
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: is play is backing it up right now? In this
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: World Cup He's done everything that you could really ask for.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: And to be honest, you know what, what what if
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: he scores in the World Cup final?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: What if he.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: Scores to what if he scores a? This is this
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: is greats of all time stuff?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: And listen, I get there that there is a recency
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: bias that we deal with here in sports media. But
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: this is a guy meeting the moment. His twelve assists
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: already lead this entire World Cup. He's got the name power,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: he's got the branding power.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: And he's still living up to it.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: And if we're saying, oh, he can't win the big one,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: well he already won one and he showed up again
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: in the semi final. I mean he's he's scuttling everything everything.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: As far as expectations, this is greatest of all time stuff.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned, two five three. If the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Mariners don't have a four to five game lead going
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: into August, and there's a good chance they missed the postseason,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: that schedule in August is brutal and outside of play
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: in the Astros, the Mariners are seven under five hundred
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: against the rest of MLB. I didn't get a chance
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: to get to that, by the way, but a great
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: take there from the two five to three. This is
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: why I say you have to make your hay now,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: because is creeping right on up.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: I know what Greg and I have been talking about
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: going It's like back to school shopping. When you realize
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: the summer is coming to a close. It's only the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: middle of July right now, but now is the time
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: that the tough get going.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: My wife's also a school teacher, and she's already getting
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: sick and tired of seeing back to school ads and TV.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Never mind that I've already seen Halloween sales going on
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: July seventeenth. No, speaking of a guy who's not scary,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: that's Chris Crawford, he joins us.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Next.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the benefits of having a TV here
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: in the studio is getting a chance to see what
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: else is going on. And Chris Crawford brought up this
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: great thing. How about the red siding a draft pick
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: for first round, eighteenth overall and justin Lebron, how about
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: carrying that weight on your shoulders. If you're a first
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: round pick of the Cincinnati Reds and you're from Ohio
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: with the name Lebron.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: Lebron is going back to Hawaii, Ohio. The other Lebron
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 8: not so sure if he wants to make his decision.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 8: This one has made his decision, he'll be playing.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: It's at this point where I just even even don't care.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: I really don't care, because this has all been the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: act over and over. Is how much attention excessively that
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: we can draw from this?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, going.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Back to the decision, yeah, going back to when he
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: put the chosen one in a tattoo.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I am a huge Lebron stand but
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: at this point, it's also like you are a third
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: best player on a good team type guy. I don't
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: need to hear. I don't need this drawn out as
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: much like I don't need to hear. I'm not ready
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 8: to make my decision yet. I'm not ready for this stuff.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 8: Like shut up.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: No, I don't want to be mistaken here, because I
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: get it. I mean all all pro athletes have an ego.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: They have to how how big they are. It depends
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: upon the player. Sure, they all have egos there. They
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: are here to get their money. They're only guaranteed about,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: on average, about four years in their pro in their
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: pro sports league of choice, and then they're basically flushed
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: out of the system.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: So I get it. But I listen. I get that
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: MJ had an ego.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: I get that Magic had an ego as well, But
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: at this point with with the Lebron, I don't know
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: if he wants to be the greatest of all time
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: based on championships one or be the greatest of all
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: time based on longevity.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: Of a career that right now is basically rivaling Phil
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: Nicholson decent little cough yeah, decent cough.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 8: You know it's uh, certainly better than most, but not
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 8: at the same level that it was. And you know
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 8: you can't help. But also both of them were in
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: Entourage and pretty terrible.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Ackn oh, that's a show gone by the wayside. I
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: actually pulled that back out on DVD a few nice
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: to go. I heard too that that that show. And
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: I I taught to some folks in the entertainment side
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: of things. And I have a good friend and I
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: hate I hate name dropping here because I get nailed
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: for it all the time. Sure, but he grew up
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: in a pretty well to do environment.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: Dad is an agent.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Dad has tickets literally by the on deck circle of
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers dugout at Dodger Stadium. His partner in his
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: old agency was the inspiration behind Ari.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: Gold in Entage.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, and you taught to many folks in the entertainment
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: world that show is basically ninety percent true to life
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: in Hollywood.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: I've heard it's very more than any other show based
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: on LA I've heard it's pretty accurate. I've heard that
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: it does have a little bit of a.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 8: Connection there that maybe some Hollywood people don't love, but
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: it is. It's definitely one that I watched. It didn't
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: age gracefully in some areas. No, they did not know,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 8: but there's there's definitely. I still get my Vinych fixing
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: every one.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, seriously, mean, it's even great following. I remember even
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: who was the guy who played Eric again.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I forgot big, big, big hockey fan Islanders guy, right,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I remember, Yeah, he's an Islander guy. I remember actually
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: walking past him when I was in the minor leagues
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: and I was helping out the Edmonton Oilers at the
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Taylor Hall draft Tyler Sagan and he was actually a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: guest announcing the Islander pick.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: I can't believe how small he was, by the way.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: He's a.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: Maybe.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hung out with him.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: He actually came when I was working across the lake,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: came into studio and the majority of everyone except.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: For Vinnie was there.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: He's a decent guy too.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin Dillon, I believe, yeah, yes, and then Turtle
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: was there, but he demanded to catch passes from one
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: of the former quarterbacks I used to work, right, it
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: was hystericl.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Though, that's great, Well you killed it on the show yesterday,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: just like used to kill an entertainment here.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: My goodness.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: I loved hearing the connection, by the way, earlier in
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: the text line from Spain Argentina about this being like
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: UCLA and Arkansas.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: You know that game at all?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 8: Of course, yeah, I mean that the forty minutes of
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: hell that Arkansas used to have the the Nolan Richardson teams.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: I remember they were.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Going from back to back all so it didn't happen.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: So this is where the connection was also made to and.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 8: You know that UCLA team was just it was kind
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: of a one off, but it was. And I can
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 8: still remember two games before that the Tigas Eddie layup
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 8: to beat Missouri in that game. That that's that's a
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 8: good cop though, because it is kind of that a
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 8: little bit of a flashy or UCLA and a Arkansas
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 8: team that just full court pressed and just tried to
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 8: Carlos Williamson man, that guy was a.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: He was a dude. They had dudes on that they did.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Arkansas, Arkansas is pretty good now, but that Arkansas
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 8: team in the mid nineties was pretty sick.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Well, hey, nice at nice sweat shirts. Well till the
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: hockey season kicks back in here. But what you got
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: going here for today?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: We're gonna do a whole bunch of trade stuff.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 8: We're gonna talk a bunch about the National League c
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 8: Ja Brams spoiler alert, maybe number one on my list,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 8: but there's a lot of guys that I think in
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 8: the National League can help this team. And then we
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 8: didn't get to my Seahawks rant about why everyone needs
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 8: this team to be so beloved, But we'll talk about
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 8: that in two o'clock.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Well, you're rid a kaf up at the starting pitcher
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: for a bat.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: Yep, Oh, let's get after it as after.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Chris Crafford's in for Ian Andrews, also joining the show
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: as well. Back of the next week, Jackson's got Monday.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: But appreciate this saying for Greg Bell and for Jesse
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: and I'm Mike see