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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Garden America Show, the country's most to
- 0:04Speaker 1: listen to gardening program. This is your chance to join
- 0:07Speaker 1: us as we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, in fact,
- 0:11Speaker 1: anything that has to do with the world of gardening.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Now here's Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox on
- 0:18Speaker 1: the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Non you're right, it's ATO six. It's AATO six live.
- 0:25Speaker 2: If you're watching us live listening to us live. However,
- 0:27Speaker 2: it could be any other time of the day or night,
- 0:29Speaker 2: which means the time doesn't really matter.
- 0:31Speaker 3: But anyway, we are broadcasting live from.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Thank you, John. Is this kind of a rough starter
- 0:38Speaker 2: or just kind of something out of the gates.
- 0:40Speaker 4: We don't play music anymore, that's right, So this is
- 0:43Speaker 4: our int.
- 0:44Speaker 3: And dry So let's start over again.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Take two. Welcome to Garden America. I'm Brian Maine along
- 0:49Speaker 2: with John Begnasco, Tiger Pella Fox. We are broadcasting once
- 0:52Speaker 2: again for the second straight week from Tiger's palacious backyard
- 0:55Speaker 2: here in a certain section of San Diego, California.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Today. Well, if I said sarasa, but nobody knows what
- 1:05Speaker 3: that means.
- 1:06Speaker 5: Right, that is a random It is somebody somebody, Let's
- 1:10Speaker 5: let's say, uh Kanya in San Jose, that would be nothing.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Or who else? Uh, who's our who's our friend in Tucson,
- 1:19Speaker 3: Tucson Garden Club?
- 1:22Speaker 5: Guys, this is the test Kim Oh, sorry, okay, I
- 1:27Speaker 5: was I was catching my hiccup or his thoma.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Exactly. So welcome to the show. It's good to have
- 1:37Speaker 2: you long. We've got a lot going on. We've got
- 1:39Speaker 2: food for you. We've got some Plumria flowers. We've got
- 1:43Speaker 2: humming birds everywhere.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Humming birds everywhere. I love how they just kind of
- 1:47Speaker 3: sit up in the trees too and watch us for
- 1:51Speaker 3: I should I should? You know what? I should?
- 1:52Speaker 2: Send you that picture? You can put it a good pic.
- 1:54Speaker 2: You could post it. I took a picture of a
- 1:55Speaker 2: hummingbird on top of one of Tiger's banana trees.
- 1:59Speaker 3: All right.
- 2:00Speaker 5: It was not a giant, or was it? I think
- 2:02Speaker 5: it was. Was it a burd of paradise?
- 2:04Speaker 3: I think so, but I'm not positive they all blend together. Anyway.
- 2:08Speaker 5: We got the we got the thumbs up for the audio.
- 2:11Speaker 5: I've been working. We were tireless for the show. I've
- 2:14Speaker 5: been working really hard on making this whole connection thing work.
- 2:18Speaker 5: I learned a lot this week, and you know, fingers crossed,
- 2:22Speaker 5: we're gonna have a great show.
- 2:24Speaker 3: You do, by the way, so kudos to Tiger for
- 2:26Speaker 3: doing that all that.
- 2:26Speaker 4: Tim you minor correction. Oh sure, Yeah, she said that
- 2:30Speaker 4: she's lived in alcohol in sam Tifi.
- 2:34Speaker 3: He has some ideas. So you're what you're telling me
- 2:37Speaker 3: is that she has an inkling. No, no, I don't
- 2:39Speaker 3: know about a name plane.
- 2:40Speaker 5: Oh hey, Kevin's joining us. Your your buddy Kevin, and
- 2:45Speaker 5: he was in San Diego last week. Did you make
- 2:46Speaker 5: it to the regis?
- 2:47Speaker 2: Oh no, I In fact, I didn't even know that
- 2:49Speaker 2: it was happening, kind of a last minute thing. So
- 2:51Speaker 2: he was a class of seventy four. This was class
- 2:53Speaker 2: of seventy five last weekend, which we all know everybody anyway,
- 2:57Speaker 2: So he's back in court Aline right now.
- 2:58Speaker 5: I don't know, I just all I'm assuming quorderline, but
- 3:02Speaker 5: we'll see.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Uh.
- 3:06Speaker 4: I'm really impressed with the the uh tropical influence in
- 3:11Speaker 4: your garden right now. Yeah, right, you said the weather
- 3:13Speaker 4: has been cooperating with high humidity, and we had the rain. Yeah,
- 3:19Speaker 4: you had the big rain. We had we had dribs
- 3:21Speaker 4: and drabs, but Tiger's plummery are the nicest I've seen. Yeah,
- 3:26Speaker 4: just about anywhere. I love the well, look at the
- 3:30Speaker 4: plate he's got sitting in front of him with hibiscus
- 3:32Speaker 4: and plummeria.
- 3:34Speaker 3: That's defeat his giant monitor lizard.
- 3:37Speaker 5: I have one problem. We should John, hold one second
- 3:41Speaker 5: talk while you're gone field time. Show me his problem.
- 3:45Speaker 2: He's kind of exactly and it's gonna be a plumbia problem,
- 3:48Speaker 2: I think as he's over there digging around.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Oh it's a leaf. Uh, let's see if it's the
- 3:54Speaker 3: same problem I have with mine.
- 4:00Speaker 4: That is that spider mind looks like Spider Man. Spider Man, right, yeah,
- 4:05Speaker 4: absolutely is spider Man.
- 4:06Speaker 5: Yeah, it's only on one, and it's the crazy thing
- 4:09Speaker 5: about it, all of them, no, no one plant. Okay,
- 4:13Speaker 5: but as you can see that plant very close many others,
- 4:18Speaker 5: So I'm I'm happy it's only on that one.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Right now, What did you feed that plant with.
- 4:25Speaker 5: The same I have, like this, like liquid fertilizer, organic
- 4:30Speaker 5: liquid fertilizer. So it's the same that I did all
- 4:33Speaker 5: the other ones with. But yeah, this one's got spider
- 4:36Speaker 5: mites on it, so I gotta figure out how that
- 4:38Speaker 5: I'm going to treat them. It's just it's just weird
- 4:43Speaker 5: to me that it's only that one plant compaired all
- 4:46Speaker 5: the rest, because as you can see, they're all pretty close.
- 4:48Speaker 5: I think you would think of one got it.
- 4:50Speaker 4: Right and and I'm glad Hibiscus our next to it
- 4:53Speaker 4: and they don't have it.
- 4:54Speaker 3: But is this the stilly analogy if you if we
- 4:57Speaker 3: were together and you had.
- 4:58Speaker 5: A cold and you were it doesn't guarante you're going
- 5:00Speaker 5: to get well exactly. John might get it, but I
- 5:02Speaker 5: might not. And I think that's where John was going with,
- 5:04Speaker 5: what did I feed this one right compared to the
- 5:06Speaker 5: other ones, because obviously this one can't fight it fight
- 5:09Speaker 5: it off, where the other ones maybe are right. Yeah, so,
- 5:16Speaker 5: and sometimes different varieties of the same plant have different
- 5:21Speaker 5: susceptibilities to disease, like roses. You know, some roses get
- 5:26Speaker 5: black spots and others don't. Yeah, you know, depending on
- 5:30Speaker 5: on what their background was. So there's been so much
- 5:33Speaker 5: breeding in plumeria. Imagine the same thing could be there. Yeah,
- 5:37Speaker 5: how many plants, like actual plants of variety? You have
- 5:41Speaker 5: more than it does actual plants, right, actual plants? Oh yeah,
- 5:44Speaker 5: I have way more than a doesn't plants.
- 5:46Speaker 3: How many varieties here?
- 5:49Speaker 5: One, three or five, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
- 5:55Speaker 5: fourteen fifty.
- 5:56Speaker 3: And that's just the right.
- 5:58Speaker 5: I have probably about seven, ten, eighteen direct Yeah, yeah.
- 6:02Speaker 3: That's a lot. It is a lot nowhere, it's nowhere.
- 6:06Speaker 5: Thousands, yes, hundred, But I don't have I don't have
- 6:12Speaker 5: I have hardly any plumeria. Yeah, but you have thousands
- 6:15Speaker 5: of roses?
- 6:16Speaker 3: I have four.
- 6:18Speaker 5: Okay, here's the question for John, to be technically correct,
- 6:21Speaker 5: hundreds of roses, not thousands.
- 6:24Speaker 3: There's I do have over a thousand. Sad question for John.
- 6:27Speaker 3: How many roses roughly do your.
- 6:30Speaker 4: Sixteen hundred? Yeah, seventeen hundred. Here's the next question. Variety
- 6:34Speaker 4: sixteen hundred.
- 6:35Speaker 3: He always has one of them, as have one of these.
- 6:38Speaker 4: Except except for the auction that's coming up. You know,
- 6:42Speaker 4: those are all doubles. He doesn't count those as part
- 6:45Speaker 4: of his right. So there's there's about two hundreds that
- 6:49Speaker 4: will be in the auction.
- 6:51Speaker 5: Do you do factor in your seedlings every once in
- 6:54Speaker 5: a while, like when it makes it, when it makes
- 6:56Speaker 5: makes it past stage three?
- 6:58Speaker 6: Is it?
- 6:58Speaker 3: I come?
- 6:59Speaker 4: I haven't counted any seedlings in the number. I still
- 7:03Speaker 4: have fifty seedlings I'm evaluating.
- 7:07Speaker 5: Have you ever seen a Plumerius seed, Brian, you know
- 7:12Speaker 5: what they look like?
- 7:14Speaker 3: I might have, but no, off the top of my head,
- 7:16Speaker 3: I don't.
- 7:16Speaker 5: Really like long fingers kind of a thing.
- 7:20Speaker 3: Okay, they grow easily.
- 7:22Speaker 5: From They grow very very well, the easiest plants to grow, right, Yeah, uh,
- 7:28Speaker 5: what do you mean?
- 7:29Speaker 2: Well, I mean you said they grow from seed. I
- 7:31Speaker 2: mean I mean like, if the average person could plant it,
- 7:33Speaker 2: probably do well.
- 7:34Speaker 5: There's nothing that you need to do, I think, so Plumerius, Yeah,
- 7:37Speaker 5: I mean just you know, it should be easier. But
- 7:42Speaker 5: you know what I was kind of, you know, getting
- 7:44Speaker 5: out was the same thing that John does where he
- 7:46Speaker 5: has these seedlings that he starts and sees what come
- 7:50Speaker 5: comes from those seedlings is always kind of interesting and
- 7:53Speaker 5: kind of Plumerius fall in that same little group where
- 7:57Speaker 5: you'll get varieties from those seedlings as well. But but
- 8:00Speaker 5: the difference is PLUMERI don't thee every year like the
- 8:06Speaker 5: you don't always get seeds from the plant. I don't
- 8:10Speaker 5: know what triggers where. Yeah, I don't know what triggers.
- 8:14Speaker 5: They do get seeds every I would think, so yeah,
- 8:17Speaker 5: but I'm just guessing.
- 8:18Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really know because I don't seek seeds
- 8:21Speaker 3: produce on my plants.
- 8:23Speaker 4: But if you ever looked at when we go to
- 8:25Speaker 4: the plumeria show, Yeah.
- 8:27Speaker 3: You see.
- 8:30Speaker 4: New colors and stripes and all different things, and they're
- 8:34Speaker 4: pretty expensive. And the reason they're expensive is just what
- 8:37Speaker 4: you're saying. You get a new plume area and you've
- 8:41Speaker 4: got that plan. So if anybody wants to have it
- 8:45Speaker 4: anywhere in the world, it's got to be cutting off
- 8:48Speaker 4: that plant.
- 8:49Speaker 5: Right, which which then you've got to grow it right
- 8:52Speaker 5: and then you know, and it's.
- 8:54Speaker 4: Now they do graft plumeri and some I think most
- 8:58Speaker 4: of that grafting is done. They might do some here,
- 9:00Speaker 4: but most of it's done in Thailand places like that
- 9:03Speaker 4: to get them to grow a little fast.
- 9:05Speaker 5: Yeah, but even then, you know, you still have to
- 9:08Speaker 5: grow out, which takes it. So I imagine you're years
- 9:12Speaker 5: into production before you can actually start telling. Because the
- 9:17Speaker 5: roses you talk about number one, sometimes you say they
- 9:21Speaker 5: bloom before they have leave, you know, and then you
- 9:26Speaker 5: know before.
- 9:27Speaker 3: They what are you talking about? You know, they bloom
- 9:31Speaker 3: real quick for you from seed. They bloom in about
- 9:34Speaker 3: six states.
- 9:34Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Maria, don't bloom in that like
- 9:37Speaker 5: you're not. You know, when you grow up from seed,
- 9:40Speaker 5: you're not going to see that bloom. Maybe even the
- 9:43Speaker 5: first year, you know.
- 9:44Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, it could be two to three years.
- 9:47Speaker 5: Before you see the flower that it's developed. Yeah, So
- 9:51Speaker 5: you know, it's just fun to you know, when when
- 9:55Speaker 5: you when you like something and now it's fun to.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Create, right, kind of like what we're getting.
- 9:59Speaker 2: I think are going to take a break here coming up,
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- 10:13Speaker 2: I'm Brian Mainelong with John Magnasco Taga, Halifax. Gonna take
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- 11:21Speaker 2: So John's got the quot of the week from one
- 11:23Speaker 2: of his favorite people, Beverly Nichols, Right, John.
- 11:26Speaker 3: That's right.
- 11:27Speaker 4: And the quote Brian is to dig one's own spade
- 11:31Speaker 4: into one's own earth.
- 11:34Speaker 3: His life had?
- 11:35Speaker 4: Does life have anything better to offer.
- 11:37Speaker 3: Than this great quote? And I do get it.
- 11:39Speaker 5: Now there's an article on Beverly Nichols and the news
- 11:43Speaker 5: tape and now you're wondering about the picture that I
- 11:45Speaker 5: want to comment on. Yeah, picture, It is that picture
- 11:48Speaker 5: which is above that article that you wrote, right, that
- 11:51Speaker 5: looks like where I want to spend the rest of
- 11:53Speaker 5: my life and eternity.
- 11:56Speaker 2: I don't know about eternity. Well, it's part of heaven,
- 11:58Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean, look at that little cottage. It's
- 12:01Speaker 2: just surrounded by flower. You could just lose yourself.
- 12:04Speaker 3: It looks like an English garden.
- 12:06Speaker 5: Remember that woman where we went to her yard and
- 12:09Speaker 5: we were it was a personal garden. We were in
- 12:12Speaker 5: her backyard and.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Two different levels and she had that old house. Uh,
- 12:17Speaker 3: she had this structure. The birds out of her garden
- 12:20Speaker 3: as well.
- 12:22Speaker 5: I'm not sure I mean there were, there were, not
- 12:26Speaker 5: the one with the levels, the one where you where
- 12:28Speaker 5: you took the picture of me sitting in the grass,
- 12:30Speaker 5: not that. Do you remember where you where you came
- 12:34Speaker 5: running up the hill to show me the kiffskate.
- 12:37Speaker 3: I've never seen John run up a hill. What does
- 12:39Speaker 3: that look like? And whose house was there? The one
- 12:42Speaker 3: that this reminds me of. This reminds me of. It
- 12:46Speaker 3: was a personal garden.
- 12:47Speaker 5: Flowers and plants and shrubs, just like that before we
- 12:50Speaker 5: went to Kiffskate Way before I think this was one
- 12:53Speaker 5: of our first or second stops.
- 12:54Speaker 4: I thought it was the woman and she had tea
- 12:56Speaker 4: for us. Yes, yeah, yes she had. So you're saying
- 12:58Speaker 4: that was the house with bubbles, Okay, yes, at the
- 13:01Speaker 4: house head levels.
- 13:02Speaker 5: But the garden, you know, yeah, in one of the
- 13:05Speaker 5: one of the areas, was this very detailed and closed
- 13:08Speaker 5: garden because you had a lot of birds.
- 13:11Speaker 3: That picture reminded me of that that property. Do you
- 13:14Speaker 3: know what that picture is?
- 13:16Speaker 4: No, that that picture is AI's interpretation of the Beverly
- 13:21Speaker 4: Nichols article.
- 13:22Speaker 3: Because those are the plants you like, exactly perfect.
- 13:25Speaker 4: By the way, if you do have the article, I
- 13:28Speaker 4: put some links to Beverly Nichols books that get.
- 13:33Speaker 3: A fact I did. I went to the links.
- 13:34Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the A lot of those books are
- 13:36Speaker 4: around thirty forty dollars, but there's one there that and
- 13:40Speaker 4: I might be down the garden path. I'm not sure
- 13:43Speaker 4: that you can get a used copy for nine dollars.
- 13:46Speaker 2: The code is John B at Gardenamerica dot com. That
- 13:49Speaker 2: code and get twenty percent off. No, no, it's just Amazon.
- 13:53Speaker 2: But I love I've never read a Beverly Nichols book
- 13:57Speaker 2: I didn't like. And he wrote a lot of books
- 14:00Speaker 2: that weren't gardening books. Also, what else was heat of
- 14:06Speaker 2: books that I'll tell you off the air.
- 14:09Speaker 3: All right? He was and that our patrons only, uh,
- 14:13Speaker 3: that will be for our only fans base the.
- 14:19Speaker 4: I I think we've talked about Beverly Nichols before. He
- 14:23Speaker 4: wrote around the same time is as Vita Sackville West.
- 14:30Speaker 4: And he was not respected in England because the English
- 14:37Speaker 4: admired people who specialized in areas. He was everywhere. Yeah,
- 14:42Speaker 4: he was in politics, you know. He, like you say,
- 14:46Speaker 4: Brian hobnobbed with.
- 14:49Speaker 3: A lot of the a lot of the famous people
- 14:56Speaker 3: leaning toward here to some degree.
- 14:59Speaker 4: He he had all kinds of things. Andy, he had
- 15:02Speaker 4: a problem with his his dad. I think he wrote
- 15:05Speaker 4: a nasty book about his father, if I'm not mistaken.
- 15:10Speaker 4: But yeah, it's just, uh, just amazing what he was into.
- 15:15Speaker 4: But every everything I've written by him or read by
- 15:18Speaker 4: him was really interesting. And I think, you know, it's
- 15:22Speaker 4: the kind his books are. Garden books are the kind
- 15:25Speaker 4: of books that you'll be reading and then you just
- 15:27Speaker 4: burst out laughing.
- 15:28Speaker 2: You know why he wrote that didn't have a good relationship, right, Yes,
- 15:37Speaker 2: it's like a boy. You have to go through life
- 15:41Speaker 2: with that name, you know, and you're gonna get beat
- 15:43Speaker 2: up now and then I think that's what it was.
- 15:45Speaker 4: Yeah, wasn't the guy that played music for Billy Graham
- 15:51Speaker 4: George Beverly's Sha.
- 15:52Speaker 2: Yes exactly. He'd been with uh with uh Billy Graham
- 15:57Speaker 2: since the forties. Yeah, but at least that was his
- 15:59Speaker 2: middle name, exactly. Yeah, George's George's That makes up for it.
- 16:05Speaker 2: But yeah, Beverly Nichols. In fact, I think John, for
- 16:07Speaker 2: a long time, you back in the day, you spoke
- 16:09Speaker 2: of Beverly Nichols before I, and I just assumed it
- 16:12Speaker 2: was a woman, and at some point I don't know.
- 16:15Speaker 2: Months later, I made reference to that in JOHNO.
- 16:20Speaker 3: Yeah. I think his middle name was Susan.
- 16:22Speaker 5: I still forget. I still forget that. I've I've been
- 16:26Speaker 5: told that a number of times, and I still forget.
- 16:28Speaker 5: When I hear Beverly, I just I don't know.
- 16:30Speaker 2: I never grew up. Because there's a lot of names
- 16:32Speaker 2: to go back and forth, Dane. It can be either way.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Riley can be the way Jami can be.
- 16:37Speaker 5: Yeah, Beverly's Beverly straight like as far as usually it's
- 16:42Speaker 5: a girl's name.
- 16:45Speaker 3: Me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sort.
- 16:50Speaker 4: If you read one of his books, you'll never and
- 16:53Speaker 4: never wonder again just because you relate to him, you know,
- 16:56Speaker 4: and you would like his books.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Tiger, what is he late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundred, No, no, no, mid.
- 17:06Speaker 4: Early early nineteen hundreds to like nineteen eighty what.
- 17:13Speaker 3: Really?
- 17:14Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 17:15Speaker 3: Yeah, lived through the war and everything? Okay?
- 17:20Speaker 2: Interesting? Definitely, Nichols. How were the comments and yeah? Questions
- 17:24Speaker 2: coming along? Tagger, our listeners having all the fun. Gina's
- 17:26Speaker 2: involved a lot. This morning she made pancakes for the kids,
- 17:30Speaker 2: and she has recovered from weeding John's house.
- 17:36Speaker 4: You know, she did an awesome job. She was a dynamos.
- 17:40Speaker 3: I mean, she's like really thorough, isn't she.
- 17:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure I don't know about thorough as much
- 17:45Speaker 4: as fast.
- 17:47Speaker 5: Carla wanted to congratulate Tanya on her sunflower from last week,
- 17:51Speaker 5: because Tanya wasn't on the program last week, so you know,
- 17:55Speaker 5: Carla wanted to make sure that she shared how impressed
- 17:59Speaker 5: from the last week's newsletter she was by Tanya's sunflower.
- 18:04Speaker 2: And you know, it's getting a lot of publicity in
- 18:06Speaker 2: the newsletter with pictures Kevin and Terry from quart Lane
- 18:11Speaker 2: after after months and years of telling John you never
- 18:14Speaker 2: print any of my pictures the newsletter, and now just
- 18:17Speaker 2: about every other week there's something coming to us from
- 18:20Speaker 2: Kevin in Quarterlaine either.
- 18:22Speaker 5: Well, yeah, just right now, Carlo was writing, really enjoyed
- 18:24Speaker 5: the article on assertium seats as poor man's papers. Yeah okay,
- 18:30Speaker 5: And also the photo of edibles from friends. Will you
- 18:34Speaker 5: make pie with that rubarb Keaven because he he had
- 18:39Speaker 5: some rhubarb that was photographed in there too, which which
- 18:44Speaker 5: I think we've talked about this before, but I don't
- 18:46Speaker 5: think I've ever met it's actually made rubarb pie?
- 18:50Speaker 3: Is rubarb wild? Is it any what? No, it's not wild.
- 18:58Speaker 5: No rubarb itself, what about it? I answered that again.
- 19:03Speaker 5: No you didn't hear my question. But no, no, is
- 19:08Speaker 5: any part of rubarb poison. Yes, that's wild leading to.
- 19:17Speaker 3: The leaves. Yes, so you have to you have to
- 19:21Speaker 3: cut off the leaves and use this damn right.
- 19:23Speaker 4: There's always wonder if you go somewhere for dinner and
- 19:26Speaker 4: they're serving group.
- 19:27Speaker 3: Our always have a put always you see the reviews. Yeah,
- 19:33Speaker 3: I'll have the pie, but not the salad. Now you're
- 19:36Speaker 3: big on puffer fish, right, you love eating That would
- 19:39Speaker 3: be a funny thing to do. But take a break cutting.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Us off, h I gotta stay on time for the network.
- 19:46Speaker 2: This is for you, Bistok Radio've got to stay tuned
- 19:49Speaker 2: with the format clock. So I'm gonna take a break
- 19:51Speaker 2: and come right back. For those on Facebook live a
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- 19:56Speaker 3: They would.
- 20:11Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
- 20:14Speaker 6: John and Tiger just like.
- 20:17Speaker 2: That, quick as a bunny, as John likes to say,
- 20:19Speaker 2: we are back here on Garden America from Tiger's back hered.
- 20:22Speaker 2: We do appreciate you tuning in. Anybody you know what's
- 20:25Speaker 2: interesting is we see the list of people here that
- 20:27Speaker 2: are always tuned in. We see the names, and occasionally
- 20:29Speaker 2: John will say, hey, what are these names here that
- 20:31Speaker 2: that pop up a lot of new people watching today,
- 20:35Speaker 2: and they just don't necessarily interact.
- 20:37Speaker 3: They just kind of watch because they're curiously afraid. Don't
- 20:40Speaker 3: be afraid. There are no silly I'd like.
- 20:42Speaker 2: To know if anybody's a brand new garden just starting
- 20:45Speaker 2: out for the first time.
- 20:47Speaker 4: Yeah, because we don't want you to watch our show.
- 20:50Speaker 3: Hey, we're kind of rough. We're a rough bunch. I'll
- 20:55Speaker 3: tell you that. I'm just kidding that.
- 20:57Speaker 4: Course, carl did mention there's a biography out there of
- 21:03Speaker 4: Beverly Nichols too. Maybe you might be in more into
- 21:07Speaker 4: biographies than you are.
- 21:08Speaker 3: Just something we can watch or read. It's a book.
- 21:11Speaker 4: But Carla mentions, h did if you read his biography,
- 21:17Speaker 4: it's a very sad story. So it's probably better to
- 21:19Speaker 4: just read his gardening books.
- 21:21Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not dead because.
- 21:22Speaker 4: They're no, they're not said at all, so they're they're
- 21:26Speaker 4: kind of humorous and but yeah, his I think, if
- 21:30Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, Carla, the biography did go into the
- 21:35Speaker 4: problems that he had with his his father, but you
- 21:38Speaker 4: know he would he would.
- 21:40Speaker 3: I'm not with royalty, Brian, like I was accepted in
- 21:45Speaker 3: those circles.
- 21:46Speaker 4: Yeah, kings and queens and dukes and duchesses.
- 21:51Speaker 3: That's right. So it was.
- 21:55Speaker 4: Also he was also a member of that Noel our
- 22:00Speaker 4: Oscar wild group that whole Yeah, yeah, yeah, running around
- 22:04Speaker 4: answer yep to answer.
- 22:07Speaker 5: One of the questions is going to borrow my begin here, Brian,
- 22:09Speaker 5: You're going to try to hold this up. You guys
- 22:11Speaker 5: will have to talk. Charlotte asked what the spider might
- 22:14Speaker 5: damage looked like if we can show up and you know, John,
- 22:19Speaker 5: I think while I'm doing it can also because you know,
- 22:23Speaker 5: there's a few things when it comes to plant problems
- 22:25Speaker 5: that are very easy for a gardener to see and
- 22:29Speaker 5: and spider my damage is usually one of those things.
- 22:31Speaker 5: It's very specific, kind of like you know, an iron deficiency.
- 22:36Speaker 5: You know, an iron deficiency is a you know, yellow
- 22:40Speaker 5: leaf with green vein. You know, for the most part,
- 22:42Speaker 5: when you see that.
- 22:43Speaker 2: To me, to me, that looks like if somebody said,
- 22:45Speaker 2: what's it looked like, I said, the leaf is fading?
- 22:47Speaker 3: Yeah, it's.
- 22:50Speaker 5: You know, but it's very hard sometimes to know, like
- 22:52Speaker 5: what is overwatering underwatering Sometimes you know, it's difficult to see,
- 22:56Speaker 5: like sucking insect damage, like it's not always like specific,
- 23:00Speaker 5: but spider mites are one of those things. So if
- 23:02Speaker 5: John can describe it, I'm gonna hold it up to
- 23:03Speaker 5: one of the cameras so people can see it if
- 23:04Speaker 5: they watch.
- 23:06Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's a couple of ways you can
- 23:08Speaker 4: tell spider mic damage quickly, Brian. One is if you
- 23:12Speaker 4: take the leaf and if you pound it over a
- 23:15Speaker 4: piece of white paper, like smack the back of it,
- 23:19Speaker 4: and then take your hand and rub it over the paper.
- 23:22Speaker 4: You'll see streaks in the streak star because you've squashed
- 23:26Speaker 4: all their little bodies. Wow, and you get us that
- 23:29Speaker 4: sounds rather violent. You get a trail of spider mic
- 23:31Speaker 4: guts there.
- 23:32Speaker 3: You're smashing and pounding and all those things.
- 23:34Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you look at what Tiger's showing now,
- 23:36Speaker 4: you see how the the center vein is. There's all
- 23:42Speaker 4: the shot right, all the chlorophyll's been taken out. Usually yeah, okay, okay,
- 23:48Speaker 4: Usually spider mites are on the back side of a leaf,
- 23:51Speaker 4: but they also come to the front when they're heavy,
- 23:55Speaker 4: and that's what tiger had most pesties. If you're spraying,
- 24:01Speaker 4: do not kill mites because pesticides, well, I should say
- 24:06Speaker 4: insecticides are for killing insects, and mites are not insects, right,
- 24:12Speaker 4: so you need a mitoside. I don't use anything. But
- 24:17Speaker 4: you can also use organic sprays, stuffecants, the oils. Yeah,
- 24:22Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe n neem oil would work, but
- 24:24Speaker 4: any of the horticultural oils would stuffocate them. Canola oil
- 24:28Speaker 4: would do a good job.
- 24:29Speaker 5: And now because it's a plumeria tunic goes dorm it
- 24:33Speaker 5: in the wintertime. Do I have to be worried that
- 24:36Speaker 5: it's gonna come back next year, carry on to next year,
- 24:39Speaker 5: or because all those leaves will go away. It's gonna
- 24:42Speaker 5: sit there for two or three months and then the
- 24:46Speaker 5: new stuff comes out.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Well, you don't have a big problem.
- 24:48Speaker 4: If you had a big problem, you know, they could
- 24:50Speaker 4: overwin around the stems, but just that one leaf, I
- 24:55Speaker 4: would just pull the leaf off and not even worry
- 24:57Speaker 4: about it.
- 24:58Speaker 3: But if you want to, you can.
- 25:00Speaker 5: Spray, so they can overwinter sometimes, you know. Yeah, but
- 25:05Speaker 5: and they come back if you have a big problem
- 25:07Speaker 5: with it in the garden.
- 25:08Speaker 4: If they didn't over winter, you would never have them
- 25:11Speaker 4: the next year. I know a lot of people, a
- 25:16Speaker 4: lot of my friends who are rose exhibitors, and they
- 25:20Speaker 4: need all their flowers to look perfect. Yeah, when they
- 25:25Speaker 4: exhibit them in shows, spray heavily. And by spraying heavily
- 25:31Speaker 4: to make sure that their blooms are perfect, they kill
- 25:34Speaker 4: any natural predators that are out in about okay, So
- 25:39Speaker 4: with the predators being dead, that allows the spider mites
- 25:43Speaker 4: to take over, because there are predatory mites that will
- 25:46Speaker 4: eat spider mites. Yeah, the bad spider mice. I should say,
- 25:50Speaker 4: good spider mites and bad spider mites.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny how that happens.
- 25:54Speaker 5: Right where there's you know, bugs that eat other bugs,
- 25:58Speaker 5: and then there's bugs that he but we call the
- 26:01Speaker 5: bugs that eat other bugs good bugs, right.
- 26:04Speaker 3: But yet the vegetarian bugs are the bad bugs.
- 26:09Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it's interesting the way we do that for
- 26:12Speaker 4: cannibals but not people, not for for cannibals, do it
- 26:16Speaker 4: for bugs, but not for people.
- 26:17Speaker 5: I don't want to live in an area where there's
- 26:19Speaker 5: people are cannibals. That's that doesn't sound good.
- 26:21Speaker 3: You get into that, are you?
- 26:23Speaker 5: No?
- 26:23Speaker 3: I don't think those are good people. I think one
- 26:26Speaker 3: time you said you frowned upon.
- 26:27Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I would not classify them as something I
- 26:30Speaker 5: wanted to introduce into my yard. Then you certainly don't
- 26:33Speaker 5: want to go to that island North Stton Island off
- 26:36Speaker 5: of and India where where there's still is that that
- 26:40Speaker 5: tribe and they don't want anybody there.
- 26:43Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 26:44Speaker 4: Yeah, Carlos, thanking you for showing that leave. She's got them,
- 26:52Speaker 4: know what?
- 26:52Speaker 3: That was good. I mean that probably identifies with a
- 26:54Speaker 3: lot of people there well.
- 26:56Speaker 5: And you know the funny thing about spider mand is
- 26:58Speaker 5: they're very common. I was playing because of that warm area.
- 27:05Speaker 4: Especially in cold areas of the country. Yeah, lack of wind,
- 27:09Speaker 4: they have, you have dry heat heat.
- 27:11Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:11Speaker 4: They don't like humidity, no, but they do like the dryness.
- 27:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:16Speaker 5: So you know they always talk about when you have
- 27:19Speaker 5: spider minds on your house plants, it's almost very difficult
- 27:22Speaker 5: to get rid of because you know the treatments, like
- 27:25Speaker 5: John saying you can't just use an insecticide, you have
- 27:27Speaker 5: to use a MITA side they're inside the house, so
- 27:30Speaker 5: you got to kind of treat the whole plant, and
- 27:32Speaker 5: they get on the tops and bottoms, which is also difficult.
- 27:35Speaker 4: In warm areas like California, you can take the plant
- 27:38Speaker 4: outside and host it down, which is a good thing
- 27:41Speaker 4: for zach.
- 27:42Speaker 5: Uh.
- 27:43Speaker 4: Kevin wants to know, Tiger, if those are Disneyland boulders
- 27:46Speaker 4: in the background.
- 27:48Speaker 3: Yes, they are. They're actually real. I touched it. It
- 27:51Speaker 3: thout the same thing. Is this a real boulder? Those
- 27:54Speaker 3: are real? They're concrete. Yeah, exactly, Oh.
- 28:00Speaker 5: Exactly, I'm gonna I should change up that shot, you see,
- 28:02Speaker 5: move it to the other side of the yard.
- 28:04Speaker 3: I forgot that I can do this here.
- 28:08Speaker 4: Uh carl it r Tanya just put the kiss to
- 28:10Speaker 4: death on our show. Uh oh, she said she's been
- 28:13Speaker 4: afraid to say anything because the sound is excellent and
- 28:16Speaker 4: there's no buffer.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:18Speaker 2: Well again, Tiger spent a good portion of the week.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Now next week is a whole enjoy the moment. Next
- 28:26Speaker 2: week could be a whole different story. But so far,
- 28:29Speaker 2: we think we've got to kneel down.
- 28:30Speaker 3: Yeah. I learned a lot this week.
- 28:32Speaker 2: I thought about that because you know what it's caused
- 28:34Speaker 2: and effect, and just when you think you've solved something else, well,
- 28:37Speaker 2: then when I solve this problem, why is this not
- 28:40Speaker 2: and then what's the cause of this not working to
- 28:43Speaker 2: begin with. So it's like going through it like it's
- 28:45Speaker 2: like when you get all your cords, all you know,
- 28:48Speaker 2: tangled up with each other, and you got to go
- 28:49Speaker 2: through there and try to figure out what goes where.
- 28:52Speaker 4: Hey, Joyce says that she got her last four fruit
- 28:55Speaker 4: trees planned this week. What fruit trees did you plan?
- 28:59Speaker 3: Joyce? Out? Are you? Do you have any fruit trees
- 29:03Speaker 3: in your future? Tiger? Yes? What are you? What are
- 29:06Speaker 3: you looking for?
- 29:07Speaker 6: So?
- 29:07Speaker 5: I have orange, lemon, lime, and mandarin right now? Okay,
- 29:15Speaker 5: so those are the four oh and a fig five
- 29:19Speaker 5: fruit right now? Did you have the dwarf fig?
- 29:21Speaker 3: Yes? Phenomenal or noomenal? Yes? Is it fruited for you?
- 29:26Speaker 3: Not yet, I will say I have.
- 29:30Speaker 5: I've almost pushed that plant to the point of death
- 29:32Speaker 5: because of lack of water, so I don't expect anything
- 29:36Speaker 5: from it until next year.
- 29:37Speaker 3: I was seeing how you can survive on it. It
- 29:39Speaker 3: didn't work. It needs work. But but the one the one.
- 29:49Speaker 5: Fruit tree that I need to plant when I finished
- 29:51Speaker 5: the area behind the poolhouse.
- 29:54Speaker 3: But the plume in fruit trees, is that flat not pete? Yeah?
- 30:06Speaker 3: Peach right there? The doughnut peach? Yes, yeah, that one.
- 30:11Speaker 3: Those are really good.
- 30:12Speaker 5: I have to have one of the right like because
- 30:14Speaker 5: you can't find it in the store, you know, we
- 30:17Speaker 5: some stores have them. Yeah, but like it's not calm right,
- 30:21Speaker 5: Like you know, I can find an apron, I can
- 30:24Speaker 5: find a peach, I can find a plump.
- 30:26Speaker 3: It's very difficult to find that.
- 30:27Speaker 5: So I'm gonna grow that even though, good as if
- 30:31Speaker 5: you grew them yourself. Yeah, regularly what break again?
- 30:35Speaker 3: Yes? I interrupted? You know, you know what. It's a
- 30:38Speaker 3: good guest.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Because it's just it's full of information. Plum right by,
- 30:44Speaker 2: so again taking a break from Bistok Radio. Thank you
- 30:46Speaker 2: for tuning again. This is guard in America. Happy weekend
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- 31:19Speaker 6: John and Tiger.
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- 31:58Speaker 3: You can replay it exactly.
- 31:59Speaker 4: Hey, prior to the break, we were talking about the
- 32:02Speaker 4: trees you were looking to plant. What about planning a jujubi?
- 32:07Speaker 3: Jujubi?
- 32:08Speaker 5: Yeah, I like, I'm not opposed to juju. Be's eat
- 32:12Speaker 5: them that many call the movie theaters.
- 32:14Speaker 3: Well, do not eat them because you don't have access.
- 32:16Speaker 5: Maybe maybe that's why. Yeah, because that's one of the
- 32:20Speaker 5: fruits you can eat dry or you can eat it fresh.
- 32:23Speaker 3: Right, the jujubi you think would another How good is
- 32:26Speaker 3: that tree? Though they're not they're not huge? No, no,
- 32:32Speaker 3: as big as a citrus? Oh yeah, definitely right.
- 32:35Speaker 5: Yeah, so okay, but you could can I keep it
- 32:40Speaker 5: trimmed down?
- 32:40Speaker 4: Yeah, you can keep it trimmed And but the nice
- 32:43Speaker 4: thing about them is their drought tolerant too, so if
- 32:45Speaker 4: you had a dryer area of your garden, you could
- 32:47Speaker 4: use it. And there's a lot of new varieties that
- 32:50Speaker 4: are are extra sweet, so I think you might like those.
- 32:54Speaker 5: There was one I go to this donut place on
- 32:57Speaker 5: Friday mornings for the crew. I begin donuts on Fridays,
- 33:01Speaker 5: and I was it's so funny you mentioned that because
- 33:04Speaker 5: the woman at the donut shop, she was like, hey,
- 33:08Speaker 5: I'm looking for She's called it a honey jujubi.
- 33:12Speaker 4: There's a variety called honey Okay, she wants one of
- 33:15Speaker 4: the newer ones.
- 33:16Speaker 5: She wants that one, and I was like, oh, I'll
- 33:17Speaker 5: have to look into it. I don't think i've seen
- 33:18Speaker 5: that one. So it's so funny that you mentioned you
- 33:22Speaker 5: should go jujubi because she was asking if I can
- 33:25Speaker 5: find a honey juju before her.
- 33:27Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's even more of a coincidence because
- 33:31Speaker 4: I'm looking for donuts.
- 33:34Speaker 3: Perfect we should get together.
- 33:36Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Dana wants to know where we're going to
- 33:39Speaker 4: broadcast from next week and and uh, Carla assumed it's.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Going to be from your patio. Well I was thinking
- 33:46Speaker 2: about that seriously. We would have to do a lot
- 33:49Speaker 2: of moving around and a lot would be a very
- 33:51Speaker 2: tight quarters, very tight quarter. Yeah, it's tight in that
- 33:56Speaker 2: patio to move everything out of the way. We have
- 33:58Speaker 2: a pencil plant behind this. Don't want to inconvenience, and
- 34:01Speaker 2: we'd have we'd have the Yeah, we'd have the Australian tree.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Uh, bottle trees. Yeah, No, it's just it's crampy, crampy.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Uh.
- 34:14Speaker 4: Carl wants to know if there was a bad crop
- 34:16Speaker 4: of white peaches and neck dreams this year. They've been
- 34:19Speaker 4: hard to find and expensive when you just find them.
- 34:22Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 34:25Speaker 4: They're not as prolific as the yellow ones. I shouldn't
- 34:31Speaker 4: say prolific, but as common as the yellow ones. So
- 34:35Speaker 4: I don't know that there was a bad crop or
- 34:38Speaker 4: it could just not be in season. I will some
- 34:41Speaker 4: of them are later.
- 34:42Speaker 3: That across the board.
- 34:45Speaker 5: Right when it comes to farming, you know they're having
- 34:50Speaker 5: a lot of struggles. I mean, you know, you know,
- 34:53Speaker 5: farmers are you know, having a lot of challenges, whether
- 34:56Speaker 5: it's you know, water or or growth, you know, problems
- 35:01Speaker 5: of their specific props. And you know, as John just mentioned,
- 35:07Speaker 5: sometimes you know there's a good, you know year or
- 35:10Speaker 5: sometimes there's a good season and then sometimes they're not.
- 35:13Speaker 5: And that's the that's part of farming is you know,
- 35:16Speaker 5: there's there's years that grow things grow all by themselves
- 35:20Speaker 5: because you know, you got rain and everything was wonderful,
- 35:23Speaker 5: and then there's years where there wasn't rain, and right,
- 35:26Speaker 5: you know, you don't get as good a production, you know,
- 35:29Speaker 5: And that's where I think that, you know, we are
- 35:32Speaker 5: so blessed being in San Diego because we do have
- 35:34Speaker 5: so many resources for like you said, like I was
- 35:37Speaker 5: like I could barely find the donut. You're like, yeah,
- 35:39Speaker 5: you find them around and you too, where some places
- 35:42Speaker 5: that fruit almost like never exists, they don't have anybody
- 35:46Speaker 5: that grows them locally nearby. But we have a lot
- 35:49Speaker 5: and especially where you lived up in Fallbrook, I mean,
- 35:52Speaker 5: you know, you guys have so many farms in that
- 35:54Speaker 5: area that your markets.
- 35:56Speaker 4: Small, small growers, a lot of backyard growers.
- 36:00Speaker 5: Yeah, really neat stuff. I was down in the downtown.
- 36:05Speaker 5: You you have a very For those of you that
- 36:07Speaker 5: have never been to Ballbrook, it's almost it's almost like
- 36:12Speaker 5: London where it's like New New London before. Yeah, it's
- 36:17Speaker 5: like New London London, you know, where there's like New
- 36:22Speaker 5: Fallbrook in Old Fallbrook because you know your major drag street,
- 36:27Speaker 5: you know your major street there has.
- 36:29Speaker 3: Like we call it main Street.
- 36:31Speaker 5: Yeah, it has all the major normal normal markets and
- 36:35Speaker 5: grocery stores and fast food stuff. But then off to
- 36:38Speaker 5: the side they have this like I don't know, off
- 36:42Speaker 5: main Street where they have like the older small jobs,
- 36:47Speaker 5: small restaurants, small little boutiqui things, and you know, you
- 36:51Speaker 5: turn any corner and you're surprised by all the fun
- 36:54Speaker 5: stuff they have.
- 36:55Speaker 4: Well, we've we've mentioned on air before that fall Brook
- 36:58Speaker 4: is the oldest town down in southern California that was
- 37:03Speaker 4: not founded by the Spaniards or the Mexicans.
- 37:06Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a trivia question. Wow.
- 37:08Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's why it's not uh Stan Fallbrook, right,
- 37:14Speaker 4: or Santa fall.
- 37:14Speaker 5: Brook or having some kind of other Hispanic name behind
- 37:18Speaker 5: it or lost anything.
- 37:20Speaker 4: Yea was actually named after a town in Pennsylvania, ball
- 37:25Speaker 4: fall Brook, which was a tours It was founded by
- 37:28Speaker 4: the Army. No, it was followed founded by the recis.
- 37:33Speaker 4: You know there's a Ricci Road.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the family.
- 37:37Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the families and where they and and
- 37:42Speaker 4: uh outside of fall Brook is to lose right right,
- 37:46Speaker 4: which is play on the word because you look at
- 37:52Speaker 4: the lose, what would you think they light the light
- 37:54Speaker 4: right right? So you'd think that's a Spanish name, right,
- 37:57Speaker 4: I would It was actually named after the l u
- 38:00Speaker 4: Ce Loose family. Oh and Lose was a a Spanish version.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Of Loose and in l u Ce Luce right, Like,
- 38:14Speaker 3: isn't that could be right? What does that mean? Well?
- 38:17Speaker 3: Is that light? Also? Yeah? Is it okay?
- 38:20Speaker 4: But that their name was Loose And if you want
- 38:24Speaker 4: to read a little bit about the history of Fallbrook, uh,
- 38:28Speaker 4: four or five of the chapters in my new book
- 38:32Speaker 4: talk about okay, just so you know, we've got about
- 38:35Speaker 4: a minute.
- 38:36Speaker 3: All right, so you're not.
- 38:37Speaker 5: All Paula, I have a problem with black, you said,
- 38:41Speaker 5: question mark rust On Asian pair had two trees, only
- 38:46Speaker 5: one left, and it's great fruit, wonderful shelf life. Fallbrook
- 38:51Speaker 5: is heaven black rust On Asian pair. Now I'm imagining that,
- 38:55Speaker 5: Soodie mol that's that would be my guest too.
- 38:58Speaker 4: So if it's black and you need to see a picture, yeah,
- 39:00Speaker 4: you know, because it's like like telemedicine, you know, if
- 39:04Speaker 4: you call the doctor, what's wrong with me? Sor yeah,
- 39:08Speaker 4: but that's my guest too because it city mold grows
- 39:12Speaker 4: in the secretions of insects, usually a fid, yeah, but
- 39:16Speaker 4: can also be gay.
- 39:18Speaker 2: It is break time for biz Talk Radio News coming
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- 39:55Speaker 2: from the break, Bistalk Radio, Thank you. This is our
- 39:58Speaker 2: number two. Welcome to the show. Welcome those on Facebook.
- 40:01Speaker 2: Welcome to those that are watching and listening to us
- 40:03Speaker 2: for the very first time.
- 40:05Speaker 5: So before the break, we were talking about Paula is
- 40:08Speaker 5: a black study mold, right, stoody mold I believe on
- 40:11Speaker 5: her Asian pair. And so you know, as John mentioned
- 40:17Speaker 5: a lot of times that stoody mold comes from secretion
- 40:20Speaker 5: of scale aphids, you know, sucking insects that are on
- 40:24Speaker 5: the plant, on and fungus, the gross and the secretion. Yes,
- 40:28Speaker 5: and you know on an Asian pair, you know the
- 40:34Speaker 5: thing to do, I mean, number one, it's going to
- 40:36Speaker 5: go dormant in the wintertime, so you know, to protect
- 40:39Speaker 5: against that kind of stuff is when it's dormant, using
- 40:41Speaker 5: your you know, all season oil sprays and things like that.
- 40:45Speaker 5: But you know, you're trying to prevent the bugs. You know,
- 40:48Speaker 5: you're not trying to treat the disease problem. You're mostly
- 40:51Speaker 5: probably trying to focus on the bugs, which means during
- 40:54Speaker 5: the growing season maybe you can wash it off, you know,
- 40:59Speaker 5: and sex settles, so you know, things like that for
- 41:01Speaker 5: the next year. Like I can't, I mean, I don't know, Paula.
- 41:05Speaker 5: I mean, are you already harvesting right now? And I
- 41:08Speaker 5: imagine Asian pair right now You've got fruit on there
- 41:11Speaker 5: and it's picking picking time. Yeah, So I imagine.
- 41:18Speaker 4: There's some varieties of Asian plumps or Asian pairs that
- 41:22Speaker 4: are more resistant to fire blight than others. So she
- 41:28Speaker 4: had mentioned she had one tree dye. It could have
- 41:31Speaker 4: been from fire blake too, right.
- 41:33Speaker 5: Yeah, which which is a disease passed from normally pruning.
- 41:38Speaker 5: You know, you're passing it almost like a you know,
- 41:40Speaker 5: you know, blood disease that.
- 41:42Speaker 4: And you would get black leaves from that also, but
- 41:45Speaker 4: they wouldn't be fussy.
- 41:47Speaker 3: Yeah, And and now on on something like that.
- 41:51Speaker 5: Is it normal fire blight where you'll have like a
- 41:53Speaker 5: whole branch that just died out, right, Does it showed
- 41:56Speaker 5: the same on a pair like that?
- 41:58Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 41:59Speaker 5: Yeah, Now I've never seen, you know, it where it's fruiting,
- 42:05Speaker 5: Like does the fruit on that branch completely die out too,
- 42:09Speaker 5: like say you had a.
- 42:10Speaker 4: Pair of you know, I don't know, Okay, to be honest,
- 42:13Speaker 4: I don't know for sure, but that would be my guess.
- 42:15Speaker 5: Yeah, because it pretty much when you cut that branch,
- 42:19Speaker 5: it's like the whole branch is dead.
- 42:20Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 42:21Speaker 5: So I imagine if you had fruit and then that
- 42:23Speaker 5: fruit just shriveled up and the whole branch was dying,
- 42:25Speaker 5: you probably that was a good sign of fire black,
- 42:27Speaker 5: which you gotta be real careful because you can't just
- 42:29Speaker 5: prone that out. And there's really you know, there's specific
- 42:32Speaker 5: ways to take care of that by eliminating it. I mean,
- 42:35Speaker 5: you brought up this really cool concept of the disease
- 42:39Speaker 5: roses where they grow them under such intense heat that
- 42:42Speaker 5: they they outrun the virus in the plant, and then
- 42:47Speaker 5: they can now cure the rose, so to speak, by
- 42:50Speaker 5: taking this new growth that has outrun the virus. That's
- 42:54Speaker 5: just so amazing to me. I mean, fire blight is
- 42:58Speaker 5: a virus also or is it.
- 43:01Speaker 4: I think it's a bacteria material. Yeah, so I think
- 43:04Speaker 4: it's bacterial fire blade. Okay, so you can't easily google
- 43:09Speaker 4: it and see if I'm wrong? Yeah, right, Yeah, there
- 43:12Speaker 4: used to be that.
- 43:14Speaker 3: What was the.
- 43:17Speaker 4: The product that was the harpen protein that they sprayed
- 43:21Speaker 4: on on pairs harp messenger?
- 43:26Speaker 3: Do you remember messenger? Yeah?
- 43:28Speaker 5: I remember a messenger that was harpen protein.
- 43:30Speaker 4: Yeah, and and I think it was to prevent fire blade.
- 43:34Speaker 3: You're right, you did list that. Yeah.
- 43:39Speaker 4: We were talking earlier when Joyce commented that she had
- 43:43Speaker 4: just planted her last three fruit trees and she had
- 43:46Speaker 4: one more to go. We asked what they were, tiger,
- 43:50Speaker 4: and she said they're apricot Asian pear plum, elephant plumpt.
- 43:59Speaker 4: I think that's elfin heart plump.
- 44:01Speaker 3: Do you know that? One of you seen that? Really good.
- 44:05Speaker 4: It's got kind of a strange name because like blood
- 44:09Speaker 4: red when you bite into it, but it's really good.
- 44:12Speaker 4: And then she's got said she's got a low quat
- 44:14Speaker 4: waiting to be planted. I almost bought. I went to
- 44:19Speaker 4: get some mulch at at home, deepaut bright, some black mulch,
- 44:27Speaker 4: and they had I've always wanted a big Jim low
- 44:31Speaker 4: quad and they had drafted once there, and I almost
- 44:36Speaker 4: bought one. But a friend of mine has the low
- 44:39Speaker 4: quawt tree and she she had seedlings coming up everywhere,
- 44:43Speaker 4: and she gave me a bunch of seedlings and I
- 44:46Speaker 4: already put those in the ground. So and I've got
- 44:48Speaker 4: three low quad trees, so I want to put in
- 44:51Speaker 4: another one.
- 44:52Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 44:52Speaker 4: I thought of maybe digging up one of the seedlings
- 44:55Speaker 4: putting big gym, but instead I got a mango.
- 44:59Speaker 5: G ask how old should a peone be before you
- 45:05Speaker 5: divide it? I mean, can't you divide those just annually?
- 45:12Speaker 5: They're like I guess if you compare them to day lilies. Yeah,
- 45:20Speaker 5: you know, uh, for the first two or three years,
- 45:23Speaker 5: you don't want to be dividing day lilies. But then
- 45:25Speaker 5: you can look at the clump. You can say, wow,
- 45:27Speaker 5: this is just I can barely get my arms around it.
- 45:30Speaker 5: So I would say about after three years. You can
- 45:32Speaker 5: go through three to four years and divide the ponies.
- 45:37Speaker 5: Do it, but you don't want to do it when
- 45:38Speaker 5: they're too young, because it's important that they build up
- 45:42Speaker 5: a big root system to get all those flowers. So
- 45:45Speaker 5: it's like you do it, wait three years, do it again,
- 45:49Speaker 5: wait three years, or wait three years, and then you
- 45:51Speaker 5: can start doing it annually.
- 45:54Speaker 3: No, no, so you got to wait.
- 45:56Speaker 5: You can't.
- 45:57Speaker 3: This is not something you can do every year.
- 45:58Speaker 4: No, you wouldn't want to because it weakens the plant.
- 46:01Speaker 4: And you definitely don't want to divide tree peonies.
- 46:08Speaker 3: Yeah. Sorry, well you said it. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah.
- 46:13Speaker 4: I love tree peonies. My daughter Genus got a tree peony.
- 46:16Speaker 5: Yeah, don't divide that one. Yeah, so you got to
- 46:20Speaker 5: wait a few years after you do it, let them
- 46:23Speaker 5: build up.
- 46:24Speaker 4: You know, it's hard for me to tell because I
- 46:27Speaker 4: can look at a plant and I can tell that
- 46:31Speaker 4: should be divided.
- 46:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:33Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, if you look at
- 46:35Speaker 4: your plumerian the pot over there, that's the size I
- 46:39Speaker 4: would divide a p andy in.
- 46:40Speaker 5: Okay, so about a foot and a half two feet tall,
- 46:46Speaker 5: two ft wide.
- 46:47Speaker 4: Well, the height doesn't make any difference because they're dormant
- 46:50Speaker 4: when you divide them. But they could be like the
- 46:53Speaker 4: plant two feet yeah, two feet wide at the bottom
- 46:56Speaker 4: you could easily cut it in half or divide it
- 46:58Speaker 4: into three. But is with dividing any plants you know,
- 47:01Speaker 4: you may be sacrificing some ballooms the following year.
- 47:05Speaker 5: Yeah, So it just depends on what your ultimate goal
- 47:08Speaker 5: is for it. If if you're looking to use that
- 47:10Speaker 5: same plant, fill it into other parts of the garden.
- 47:13Speaker 5: You know, that's one reason to do it. If you're
- 47:16Speaker 5: just simply dividing to maybe you know, make room, like
- 47:23Speaker 5: you know, because sometimes plants get too big for it.
- 47:25Speaker 5: Right right, then you know you do want to be
- 47:27Speaker 5: careful because, like you're saying, that means you might be
- 47:29Speaker 5: sacrificing that year because you chose to divide it.
- 47:33Speaker 4: You know, in some plants, like bearded iris is a
- 47:38Speaker 4: perfect one, you divide those in August, and if you
- 47:42Speaker 4: wait much later than August to divide them, you get
- 47:45Speaker 4: no blooms the next Ah, so you definitely want to
- 47:50Speaker 4: divide them when it's time. Carla said that she read
- 47:54Speaker 4: you know, we were talking about jiujibi. She said she
- 47:56Speaker 4: was on gardening dot org and read a great article.
- 48:00Speaker 3: That's the hot fruit right now.
- 48:02Speaker 4: Well, the breeding that's going on. Yeah, it's it is surprising,
- 48:06Speaker 4: and it's one of those fruits. You you probably have
- 48:11Speaker 4: the same feeling as I do that if you want
- 48:14Speaker 4: you're gonna grow fruit. You want to grow something, you
- 48:16Speaker 4: can't buy them, right, that's exactly. And and some of
- 48:22Speaker 4: those fruits are just because they're unusual, but other times
- 48:27Speaker 4: it's because they don't ship well, because you don't see
- 48:30Speaker 4: a lot of figs, yes, you know, in the supermarket,
- 48:33Speaker 4: because they just don't ship well. Used to be that
- 48:36Speaker 4: way with berries too, you would never see brass berries.
- 48:40Speaker 4: But you know, now they've got some that they bread
- 48:41Speaker 4: the taste out of, but they last a long time themself.
- 48:48Speaker 5: Teger, you, I'm seeing if we forgot anybody here, I'm
- 48:52Speaker 5: ordering honey jujub Sorry you are exactly you're the show.
- 48:56Speaker 5: One hundred and twenty seven dollars.
- 48:59Speaker 3: Well, what's that.
- 49:01Speaker 5: Miami fruit? I don't know if this is just a
- 49:04Speaker 5: fruit or a tree. Oh it's a tester box, so
- 49:07Speaker 5: this is just a fruit.
- 49:08Speaker 3: No, you get.
- 49:14Speaker 4: But you know, you think of tropical and subtropical fruits,
- 49:17Speaker 4: you think of buying containers, but jujib's are one of
- 49:20Speaker 4: the plants you can buy. Bear root also realise. Yeah, yeah,
- 49:24Speaker 4: because they're desiduous.
- 49:25Speaker 5: Right, but I mean they're hard. It's very like tender
- 49:29Speaker 5: to do shipping bear root. Yeah, that's fine, if.
- 49:34Speaker 4: They're not as tender as the fig I don't think.
- 49:37Speaker 5: Really, yeah, bigs are more tender than a jujubi.
- 49:42Speaker 3: Yeah cool, what do you say we take a break
- 49:46Speaker 3: before I surprise you. Thank you, thank you for giving
- 49:49Speaker 3: us time.
- 49:50Speaker 2: Wait, moment of silence, Thank you for tuning in those
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- 49:56Speaker 2: good questions, you love your comments. Tuesday with us. I'm Brian,
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- 51:03Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know what I was thinking about when
- 51:05Speaker 5: you said before the break one time, that we do
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- 51:14Speaker 5: sometimes happens is people are listening to our program and
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- 52:21Speaker 3: And so the news is something you know, we don't
- 52:23Speaker 3: know what happen. Yeah, exactly, So.
- 52:27Speaker 5: I'm I'm suious. Sometimes it's pretty funny, like people listen.
- 52:32Speaker 2: And not all markets carry both hours. Yeah, because there's
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- 52:57Speaker 3: We can do a little homework before we answer the question. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 53:00Speaker 4: By the way, I try to eventually get in all
- 53:04Speaker 4: the pictures for the newsletter that you send me to
- 53:08Speaker 4: Johnigardanamerica dot com of your backyard, and we solicit those.
- 53:13Speaker 4: But I've had a couple people send me an email
- 53:18Speaker 4: and say you didn't use my picture, and I will, well,
- 53:23Speaker 4: sometimes I just can't because they have too many. But
- 53:26Speaker 4: sometimes the picture will get to me on Thursday and
- 53:29Speaker 4: they want to know why it wasn't in on Friday.
- 53:32Speaker 4: I try to have the newsletter newsletter at the very
- 53:36Speaker 4: latest done by Wednesday, so you really need you really
- 53:41Speaker 4: need to send me your pictures on Monday and Tuesday
- 53:43Speaker 4: if you expect to see them that week, and we
- 53:46Speaker 4: do appreciate those.
- 53:47Speaker 2: You know, what's interesting is I see pictures from towns
- 53:50Speaker 2: and communities that I had no idea we're even listening much.
- 53:54Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you know you we Uh.
- 53:57Speaker 4: There was an article in the newsletter this week about
- 54:01Speaker 4: how nasturtium seats were the poor man's caper, and we
- 54:05Speaker 4: had someone in Edmonton, Alberta, Alberta. Thank you Brian, Canada
- 54:12Speaker 4: that uh sent us a picture of nasturtiums about a
- 54:16Speaker 4: month ago.
- 54:16Speaker 3: Right.
- 54:17Speaker 5: Yeah, they're really cool flowers. There's a lot of really
- 54:21Speaker 5: cool looking flowers. And they to grow, they just take over.
- 54:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 54:29Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it's worse than nasturtiums because nasturtiums grow
- 54:32Speaker 4: from seed, right, and you can pull them out throw
- 54:36Speaker 4: the planet away. Yeah, but what also spreads like crazy
- 54:40Speaker 4: or four o'clock. Yes, and those you can't pull a
- 54:44Speaker 4: pull out. Yeah, they're they're weedy.
- 54:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 54:47Speaker 5: So I wish I wish my California poppies would grow.
- 54:51Speaker 5: Like I planted so many poppies and they come up
- 54:55Speaker 5: and they do well for a while, but I don't
- 54:56Speaker 5: get the full like.
- 54:59Speaker 3: All all the way through, you know, like they spread
- 55:03Speaker 3: not really you know, the California Orange, California. Well those
- 55:08Speaker 3: are just annuals.
- 55:10Speaker 5: But I mean you would think that they would come up.
- 55:13Speaker 5: I let them go to seed, and I would imagine
- 55:15Speaker 5: they would just populate throughout my yard, and they do
- 55:19Speaker 5: a little bit, but they don't do it as well
- 55:22Speaker 5: as I want them.
- 55:24Speaker 3: Is that does that make sense?
- 55:25Speaker 5: Like nistritiums, they would do it more than I want
- 55:28Speaker 5: them to calimor yeah, well morning Yeah for sure. I
- 55:35Speaker 5: think I told you about my morning glory problem up
- 55:37Speaker 5: at a property in Fallbrook where we sprayed it with
- 55:39Speaker 5: with roundup and and it still comes back. And then
- 55:43Speaker 5: I then I sprayed it with undiluted round up and
- 55:46Speaker 5: it still is coming back. It's like, oh my goodness,
- 55:50Speaker 5: that's terrible.
- 55:51Speaker 4: Is anything else growing here? No, because you might have
- 55:54Speaker 4: to put down a soil sterile.
- 55:56Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
- 55:57Speaker 5: But the the the issue is is, you know, I
- 55:59Speaker 5: mean I feel like there's just so much system in
- 56:02Speaker 5: there that, like you're saying, I have to like put
- 56:05Speaker 5: some kind of soil stillizer because we try to get
- 56:08Speaker 5: it to go through the foliage that just can't get
- 56:11Speaker 5: it all. Yeah, you know, but I wish, yeah, I
- 56:15Speaker 5: might grow some nisturtiums here in the wintertime, put out
- 56:19Speaker 5: the seeds, see what happens come up in the spring
- 56:21Speaker 5: and then.
- 56:21Speaker 4: And then you can pickle the seeds so that you
- 56:24Speaker 4: have can have capers.
- 56:25Speaker 5: And a lot of people don't realize too like nstritions
- 56:28Speaker 5: are a great salad plants also, like you can incorporate
- 56:32Speaker 5: the flowers into meals and things like that too, So
- 56:36Speaker 5: you know, I mean, it's all around.
- 56:38Speaker 4: I wrote an article about I'm thinking twenty years ago now,
- 56:42Speaker 4: Brian and I called it the Colisseum Caper, which is
- 56:47Speaker 4: kind of a mystery type title, and it was because
- 56:52Speaker 4: when we visited Rome there were there were caper plants
- 56:58Speaker 4: growing in the coliseum.
- 56:59Speaker 3: It had been in the walls of the colony. Yes,
- 57:01Speaker 3: I do remember that, Yeah, yes, yes, Zach, Yeah, I
- 57:06Speaker 3: was really surprised to see that.
- 57:08Speaker 5: Oh, happy birthday to Lila. I have seven fruit trees
- 57:13Speaker 5: that need to be planted in my backyard. You can
- 57:15Speaker 5: do a few shows from my backyard and help Harry
- 57:18Speaker 5: plant the trees demonstrations. Tiger is coming here on the
- 57:23Speaker 5: twenty ninth. Today is my birthday. And even though it
- 57:27Speaker 5: says it's Harry, it is it is Lilah. Happy birthday,
- 57:31Speaker 5: Happy birthday, And yeah, I will be out there. We
- 57:33Speaker 5: have some irrigation to fix and maybe we can help
- 57:35Speaker 5: you plant some of those fruit trees at that time?
- 57:37Speaker 5: What what fruit trees do you have, Lila, that are
- 57:39Speaker 5: going to be planted? And then carolyn efforts to naturalize
- 57:44Speaker 5: my California poppies has finally been successful. Now they stick
- 57:48Speaker 5: around all winter.
- 57:50Speaker 3: Good for her. Are you at Carolyn? Do you know
- 57:52Speaker 3: you know where Carolyn is at? Carolyn?
- 57:54Speaker 4: Yeah, Carolyn is in Newport Beach coast space.
- 57:58Speaker 3: So a little cooler, a little breezy. Yeah.
- 58:02Speaker 4: So, I mean, you know, when the ships, uh, some
- 58:06Speaker 4: of the explorer ships came to the California coast in
- 58:10Speaker 4: the spring, they saw mountains.
- 58:13Speaker 3: I'm sure because yeah, yeah, I mean that's what I want.
- 58:18Speaker 5: But for some reason, I just can't get it that
- 58:21Speaker 5: I've got status, you know, oh yeah, you know, growing
- 58:25Speaker 5: no problems whatsoever. I would I would happily take out
- 58:28Speaker 5: the status and have California. But do you know the
- 58:31Speaker 5: but status is here all year. The poppies are just
- 58:34Speaker 5: temper Yeah, I mean it doesn't look good.
- 58:38Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 58:38Speaker 5: Some of them are looking pretty junkie right now. Although
- 58:43Speaker 5: I do like that. It's just you don't do any
- 58:46Speaker 5: you know, and it's not a succulent Okay.
- 58:49Speaker 3: Break time all right already?
- 58:51Speaker 2: How about that show flying right by now after this
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- 58:56Speaker 2: next segments, one of your favorites, one of the longer segments. Oh,
- 59:00Speaker 2: I look forward to that, the longer second. So we're
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- 1:00:06Speaker 2: I should say. As we continue from Tiger's backyard gard
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: in America. What's happening John?
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: You know, prior to the break, we were talking about
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: Tiger's attempts to naturalize California poppies and I have some
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: on my one hillside and a few plants will come
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: back every year.
- 1:00:24Speaker 5: And did that come down without our seed spread that
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: you did? Is that what they were or did you
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: plant those there.
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm not sure it could have been
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: from the hydro speeding, because you.
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: Had a listen that came back, but I don't see
- 1:00:37Speaker 5: a lot of a listen at your house. Do you
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: have it still coming back?
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: It'll come back, okay. But the one thing that does
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: come back everywhere are gazine. Yes, And it's surprising to
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: see the colors they come back because they're all different.
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: You know, I bought at a nursery this spring, or
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: maybe it was the last spring, a white gausine. You
- 1:01:01Speaker 4: don't see those. And I had, you know, a couple
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: of seedlings come up and the original one's gone, but
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: these two new seedlings were white.
- 1:01:13Speaker 5: But you you were like the harbinger of death. You're
- 1:01:17Speaker 5: actually at tracking, You're actually attracted because if you have gazene,
- 1:01:20Speaker 5: you're well that you were actually like attracting gophers into
- 1:01:25Speaker 5: your yard because gauzene is actually attract gophers.
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: Did you know that? Yes? Now I knew that.
- 1:01:33Speaker 5: So you were like calling them to your yard so
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: you can create kill no gauzina.
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: Do you remember I told you I thought I had
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: the last gopher, last giant.
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: Remember that? Yeah?
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: And I had it in a pot and I finally
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: put it in the ground and was doing great, and
- 1:01:54Speaker 4: gopher came up and ate it. It was like three
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: years ago, and that's when I started my vendetta.
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: Going after.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: I would have motion detection lights come on, you know,
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: video cameras to actually see the gophers do the damage
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: and watch it.
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: You want to see, You want to suffer, You want
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: to just suffer.
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: I've been sitting in a chair and watch plants.
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny. You can hear the crunching
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: and you know it's so funny. Bugs bunny.
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: Well you watch those cartoons, right and you you know
- 1:02:26Speaker 5: the little cartoon and it shows the farmer and it's
- 1:02:29Speaker 5: like the carrots are like the ground, right and and
- 1:02:34Speaker 5: you know, like what John's just said, if you're out there,
- 1:02:38Speaker 5: you can watch it. It does happen in real time.
- 1:02:41Speaker 5: And it's amazing that they actually do that. So those cartoons,
- 1:02:46Speaker 5: those little you know watching it's not fa Yeah, it's horrible.
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: How is the garden? Is it fully protected? No rabbit problem?
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say it's a full of weeds. No, No,
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: the veggie garden veg garden?
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: Is it?
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: Is it safe?
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: It's waiting for fall. Okay, so it's done, pretty much done. Yeah,
- 1:03:11Speaker 4: I have a new crop of carrot's coming up. And
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: you mentioned you mentioned the rabbit, and this morning I'm
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: driving out of my driveway and right in front of me.
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: With a rabbit. Yeah, but it wasn't in the garden
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: because the garden. Instead, it's a rabbit that John let
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: live several months ago.
- 1:03:30Speaker 5: Peter, he's got a little jacket on, a little blue
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: jacket on.
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: I was reading. I'm trying to think of what it
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: came from. Now.
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: Somebody was telling me that they went. Oh, actually, might
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: have been a friend of mine was telling me that
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: he went to Arizona to buy something us. Actually, let's
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: not talk about this now that I think of this
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: store over the border, pressing over the border, press it over, yeah,
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: over the border, transporting of chemicals, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: was something that he couldn't get in California anymore. So.
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: And is it to kill rabbits or repel them or.
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: I think it was might have been four gophers actually
- 1:04:17Speaker 4: to like kill them, a gopher bait that we don't
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: sell anymore.
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.
- 1:04:22Speaker 5: I don't think we sell the one with Stryck nine anymore,
- 1:04:24Speaker 5: which which is exactly what it was, Yeah, which was
- 1:04:28Speaker 5: which you know. I mean, you know, for the longest time,
- 1:04:30Speaker 5: we had two products on the shelf and I would
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: go to the customer, I'd say, what do you want
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: to do? You know, you have this one with Strych nine.
- 1:04:37Speaker 5: But the concern is is that they eat it once
- 1:04:39Speaker 5: and they die. But there's a concern of a secondary
- 1:04:43Speaker 5: secondary meaning if a you know, bird or your dog
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: came along and ate this dead gopher, they could potentially
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: ingest Stryck knight. Or you have this other poison which
- 1:04:54Speaker 5: needs multiple feeding. It'll still die, but it needs to
- 1:04:59Speaker 5: eat it more than one time. And but there it
- 1:05:01Speaker 5: takes away the secondary poisoning part of it. And they
- 1:05:05Speaker 5: always went for the strict night right.
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: Like Kevin mentioned that last week we were talking about
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: Gina's white and pink garden, uh huh, and that those
- 1:05:16Speaker 4: are the colors she stays with, and he said, it'd
- 1:05:19Speaker 4: be nice to see some pictures of the garden and
- 1:05:23Speaker 4: in the newsletter, and Gina does send me pictures for
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: the newsletter occasionally, and if you read the newsletter every week,
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: you'll see some of those.
- 1:05:32Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And you know what I was thinking when
- 1:05:35Speaker 5: you mentioned sometimes you don't have a room for everybody's
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: photos in the newsletter. Send them to me and then
- 1:05:43Speaker 5: I'll post them and all incorporate him into our Facebook. Facebook. Well, yeah,
- 1:05:47Speaker 5: there you go. It's always fun.
- 1:05:50Speaker 4: Occasionally you'll see a picture from Tiger or myself or Brian.
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: And when you see that, it's only because I don't
- 1:05:58Speaker 4: have another one. You were short that I'm a listener, right,
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: and that's what.
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: I would do. We don't take top of the list,
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: will we put our listeners.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: Come off the BA bench warmers when it comes to
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: the picture warms. But no, I totally get it, I said,
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: John here, No, yeah, here's a picture Tiger.
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: When you were talking talking, I'm sorry, Brian, here's a picture.
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: Of belief, John, this is a greed plant plants, not
- 1:06:25Speaker 5: planet plants.
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: So next week I'll send you a bush exactly, maybe
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: a tree after that, Tiger. You were talking asking how
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: the vegetable garden was doing, and I, while I do
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: have a few tomatoes coming, it's pretty much uh dead
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: and waiting for the new fall planting. When do you
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: think that should happen in inland areas as far as
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: as fall planting like Chrystipher's crops like broccoli, college college
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: college our cabbage.
- 1:07:01Speaker 5: So if you're buying plants, if you're buying actual plants
- 1:07:06Speaker 5: from a garden center, I would wait until late October
- 1:07:11Speaker 5: just because you know, we get those Santa Ana winds
- 1:07:14Speaker 5: and those props do not appreciate that hot, dry weather
- 1:07:19Speaker 5: at all, and especially when they're young and tender. If
- 1:07:23Speaker 5: you're planting from seed, you could probably plant in you know,
- 1:07:29Speaker 5: mid October, because then you know, by the time they
- 1:07:32Speaker 5: actually come up, you know it's going to be November,
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: and you know then we're past that. But I think
- 1:07:40Speaker 5: that's your biggest challenge. So you know how you know,
- 1:07:42Speaker 5: back East they deal with the last frost for the
- 1:07:45Speaker 5: last cold snap. It's almost like we're waiting until the
- 1:07:48Speaker 5: last heat heat snap, right, you know, because as soon
- 1:07:52Speaker 5: as that happens, then it's like you go, November, December, January.
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: We're we're we're flying, we're looking good.
- 1:08:00Speaker 5: But if you plant those crops and we get one
- 1:08:03Speaker 5: of those real hot, you know, dry periods, that's they
- 1:08:06Speaker 5: they just wipes them all out.
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: They bolt and go to sea. Yeah, I'm looking at
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: a little very young tomatoes.
- 1:08:14Speaker 5: Yeah right, that's what I'm saying. They haven't turned red,
- 1:08:16Speaker 5: though I don't understand why. I don't understand why they're
- 1:08:20Speaker 5: not turning red. Had them for a little while. They
- 1:08:24Speaker 5: don't embarrass No, they don't.
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: What is that variety?
- 1:08:28Speaker 5: What is It's a volunteer? John John called it my
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: two bite tomato. But yeah, so that's my volunteer. Just
- 1:08:39Speaker 5: grows and takes over.
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:08:41Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, it grows into the grassy area and I
- 1:08:46Speaker 5: try to keep it cleaned out of there. But other
- 1:08:49Speaker 5: than that, I just let it go up.
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:08:52Speaker 5: Yeah, I try to get it to grow up the
- 1:08:54Speaker 5: fence more so it's more vertical, but it tends to
- 1:08:57Speaker 5: just go wild. Really, And I don't know where it's
- 1:09:00Speaker 5: getting water from. I might have a leak down there
- 1:09:03Speaker 5: because there is no irrigation there whatsoever, like you know
- 1:09:08Speaker 5: what I mean, Like it's not getting water like I
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: have no Like I have irrigation going to a lot
- 1:09:13Speaker 5: of these brands, but not there.
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: Not even the water from the lawn. No, my beautifully
- 1:09:19Speaker 3: green baked lawn. You keep it still green and really impressed.
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: Yeah right.
- 1:09:23Speaker 5: The dogs don't tear it up or anything that good mowing.
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: Uh Rick, Rick asked, where's the barbecue, Tiger. I know
- 1:09:33Speaker 5: we should have a barbecue out here for one of
- 1:09:34Speaker 5: our shows, morning barbecue b bacon and sausage and steak
- 1:09:40Speaker 5: and eggs. Yeah, that'd be a good morning barbecue.
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that sounds good. Absolutely.
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: Arlene seems to think a point steadi a tree would
- 1:09:49Speaker 5: look fabulous.
- 1:09:50Speaker 4: Now what does she mean by a point steadi a tree?
- 1:09:52Speaker 4: It's a great question, right, like, because there's the old
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: real old study. Is I think he used to be
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: able to to buy them at wideners Uh huh.
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: And I'm trying. I think it was maybe buy him
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: during the break because we have a break coming in.
- 1:10:12Speaker 5: Maybe all right, we'll talk about point setti is when
- 1:10:14Speaker 5: we come back, and here's here's the bad news.
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: Only one more segment to go.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: What and it's one of the shorter segments, and Ricks
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: and Rick has a question, So a quick break at
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: Fisk Talk Radio, Facebook Live one more segment, do stay
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: with us?
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: This is garden Mary, You're back. This is it?
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: Seven minutes and forty eight seconds. That's the segment time, guys.
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was why Nares.
- 1:11:38Speaker 4: Henrietta Ecki was the variety.
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: Variety of the pointidia tree.
- 1:11:44Speaker 4: Right, well, they're not trees, they're just you'll see them
- 1:11:47Speaker 4: growing wild and you know along the roads and.
- 1:11:51Speaker 3: Stuff like that. Yeah, they're the ones that naturalized and they.
- 1:11:53Speaker 4: Have big double flower, you know, the one just a
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: huge flower. So I don't know if she's talking about
- 1:12:00Speaker 4: out that or there is a point SETI a tree
- 1:12:03Speaker 4: that I've tried growing before.
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: It's uh is it a point Stetia?
- 1:12:09Speaker 5: Just a it's a bark of barzavikia.
- 1:12:12Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no clue with any.
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: But probably one of the most spectacular trees I've ever seen.
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: Is it a big tree? No, not a huge tree,
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: but like a dwarf citrus.
- 1:12:24Speaker 5: See this is where this is where John's property is
- 1:12:27Speaker 5: perfect because you can have a lot of trees, and
- 1:12:30Speaker 5: even if they're like medium sized trees, you can.
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: Have a lot of trees there right where here.
- 1:12:35Speaker 5: I even if I have I've got some good space,
- 1:12:39Speaker 5: but I don't have space for a lot of you know,
- 1:12:42Speaker 5: it's gonna be a challenge.
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: Well it gets crampy. Yeah, well I have to watch
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: for the view also though that you want it.
- 1:12:51Speaker 5: But that's where you have the levels. You have a
- 1:12:53Speaker 5: lower area, which you can plant anything. You're not gonna
- 1:12:56Speaker 5: you're not gonna like lose any view.
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: And plus I start small because along the driveway as
- 1:13:02Speaker 4: you pull in where the dry garden is, there's fifteen
- 1:13:06Speaker 4: trees in there, and some of those trees get to
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: be one hundred feet tall and and seventy feet wide. Yeah,
- 1:13:15Speaker 4: exactly so, but I won't be there, but they'll they'll
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: look good.
- 1:13:19Speaker 5: Rick asked a funny question because we did talk about
- 1:13:21Speaker 5: this last week. Carla mentioned this, and Rick said, do
- 1:13:24Speaker 5: the orioles make nests in your banana trees?
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: And what we were talking about because you thought it
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: was a hummingbird they.
- 1:13:32Speaker 5: Were a hummingbird's nest, and you said it was an
- 1:13:34Speaker 5: oriols nest and I was like, wow, I don't think.
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: I don't see any orioles around here, but I.
- 1:13:39Speaker 5: Mean that must be a common thing that orioles make
- 1:13:42Speaker 5: nests in bananas, and it's really cool nests. I've got
- 1:13:45Speaker 5: to I've got to see if I have another one,
- 1:13:47Speaker 5: because it was really neat.
- 1:13:48Speaker 3: Not Baltimore orioles though, no, definitely not.
- 1:13:53Speaker 5: And then Lenor suggests that I stop watering my tomatoes
- 1:13:57Speaker 5: or pick them and let them turn red on the count,
- 1:14:00Speaker 5: because I was talking about how I mean, you know
- 1:14:03Speaker 5: they didn't turn red, and but.
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: You also said you don't don't.
- 1:14:08Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess my next step is going to just
- 1:14:11Speaker 5: be pick them and see if they turn red on
- 1:14:12Speaker 5: the count.
- 1:14:13Speaker 4: So they will, but they won't taste as good. Yeah,
- 1:14:16Speaker 4: as if they're allowed to ripe been on the plant,
- 1:14:18Speaker 4: on the actual plant, that will be the test. But
- 1:14:22Speaker 4: but the nice thing is is that I did not
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: plant that or choose to plant that. So whatever happens,
- 1:14:27Speaker 4: I'm happy with.
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: It's okay.
- 1:14:28Speaker 5: Yeah, if that plan died tomorrow, I would not I
- 1:14:32Speaker 5: would not even wink about it.
- 1:14:35Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
- 1:14:38Speaker 5: Lots of lots of good stuff. I'm glad that the
- 1:14:40Speaker 5: show worked out today. Yeah, you know, I'm afraid of
- 1:14:44Speaker 5: doing different moving forward. Right now, we're all just going
- 1:14:47Speaker 5: to stay in these exact spots for the next rank. So,
- 1:14:52Speaker 5: you know, sorry, but Dana Brian is not coming home,
- 1:14:55Speaker 5: Shannon John is not coming home. We're just staying here.
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: Upset them.
- 1:15:01Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, you don't need an apology.
- 1:15:03Speaker 4: They probably thank you.
- 1:15:05Speaker 5: Yeah, they're just gonna stay here. We're gonna keep everything running.
- 1:15:09Speaker 5: We're gonna have seven days.
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: You know, congratulations on what you did this week to
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: try to figure all these weird things that you know
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: there there is a basic premise everything we do and
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: how this is normally set up with remotes and stuff.
- 1:15:23Speaker 2: Unfortunately that's not the case with this setup. It's a
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: lot of trial by air. Facebook page, your page, a
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: lot of things that yeah, all technology, bright, yeah, exactly.
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: Molecules. Molecules they're a big part. Yeah.
- 1:15:42Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm glad we're able to use everything well
- 1:15:48Speaker 5: and good questions and and Rita mentioned you can use
- 1:15:52Speaker 5: the Merlin app to listen for the birds that make
- 1:15:55Speaker 5: the nest for their id which that that is a
- 1:15:57Speaker 5: pretty cool little app Merlin app. So you basically hold
- 1:16:00Speaker 5: it up and it listens and any bird that makes
- 1:16:04Speaker 5: the noise that identifies that bird.
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: Oh I never heard Merlin. Yeah, Merlin, like Merlin the Magician.
- 1:16:10Speaker 4: Yeah, like King Arthur Merlin exactly.
- 1:16:14Speaker 3: You know, capes and high funny hats.
- 1:16:16Speaker 5: Because that's what he was doing for identifying birds and
- 1:16:19Speaker 5: stars on your little on your clothing, carry a cane
- 1:16:25Speaker 5: or walking stick. John John's thinking about that visual Actually
- 1:16:31Speaker 5: I was thinking about the was the Wizard's name Radick ass. No,
- 1:16:39Speaker 5: the wizard that was in Lord of the Rings, the
- 1:16:42Speaker 5: one that had the all the animals follow him. All
- 1:16:50Speaker 5: I know is that's too much for you. I think
- 1:16:53Speaker 5: he was a friend of Gandalf. They're all friends of Gandalf,
- 1:16:57Speaker 5: not star On. They were friends at one point.
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: They may have been. I think they were.
- 1:17:03Speaker 4: It may have been then they had a fallen out.
- 1:17:07Speaker 4: I wanted to quickly mention too, that we've done this
- 1:17:10Speaker 4: in the past. But if anyone wants an article on
- 1:17:13Speaker 4: a particular item for the newsletter, if you send a
- 1:17:17Speaker 4: note to Johnagardamerica dot com, I'll be happy to write
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: a little article on it and stick it in the newsletter.
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: How about that articles? Yeah, a request. Well, you know,
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: I got to come up with fifty two ideas a year. Yeah, yeah, sure.
- 1:17:33Speaker 5: So it's always nice when you get something that helps
- 1:17:36Speaker 5: you right in a direction, give you some direction.
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: Yeah, you should do an article on the Merlin look
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: into it now.
- 1:17:45Speaker 4: Don't ask me to do an article on anything technical.
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: You wrote an article for the newsletter when you first
- 1:17:52Speaker 4: started working with us.
- 1:17:53Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember that. I think you actually remember
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: the newsletter.
- 1:17:56Speaker 4: Yeah, I did the newsletter for a while right until
- 1:17:58Speaker 4: I yelled at you because you're faces were yeah consistent,
- 1:18:02Speaker 4: give me that back.
- 1:18:05Speaker 5: You're terrible, all.
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: Right, that's gonna do it, all right. Happy Saturday, Happy Saturday.
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: Thank you for listening Bizz Talk Radio Facebook Live. If
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: all goes well, yeah, rippers don't rise, let's hope up
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: something like that anyway.
- 1:18:24Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Those tuned in on bis Talk
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- 1:18:29Speaker 2: Those that are new to the show, thank you so much.
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco taking pla Fox. Enjoy the
- 1:18:34Speaker 2: rest of your weekend. Have for a great weekend. We'll
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- 1:18:39Speaker 3: Thank you.