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Fallen Angel | RHOP Recap with Dustin, Claudia, and Blue · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 3: I can't say nothing backstage that's anything?
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  Speaker 4: Can I just shout out?
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  Speaker 5: This weekend I got to Kennedy with the Town and
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  Speaker 5: she had a book signing, and she is like spilling
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  Speaker 5: old legendary tea about Bill Cosby. How she was supposed
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  Speaker 5: to get credit for being one of the creators of
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  Speaker 5: the Cosby Show and she was told to be.
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  Speaker 4: Clear, hustable, and that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 5: But she was really more upset about not getting the
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  Speaker 5: credit helped created by Please go get her book. I
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  Speaker 5: got the book, plain Jane. I got to go see her.
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  Speaker 5: She was hearing fort Worth. She looks gorgeous. She teared
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  Speaker 5: up talking about the industry and how she was ostracized
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  Speaker 5: and thrown away because you know back then, you know,
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  Speaker 5: her doing Playboy and not even getting naked, like the
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  Speaker 5: way they treat black women didn't get any grace. Was
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  Speaker 5: just in ridiculous. It's such I cannot wait to read
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  Speaker 5: the book book. From what she talked about at the
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  Speaker 5: book signing, you got to check her out and I
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  Speaker 5: Breakfast Club, Sherry Shepard, everybody please get her on your
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  Speaker 5: couch and interview this woman about her book. And she's
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  Speaker 5: finally telling you a story Colors. You know, we had
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  Speaker 5: that meeting with her years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Years ago at I forgot the name of the.
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  Speaker 6: BA.
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  Speaker 5: She seems in a much more comfortable place because you
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  Speaker 5: talked about the things she did not want in the
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  Speaker 5: film that we're talking to and we're talking about her
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  Speaker 5: about a reality show. She seems like in a much
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  Speaker 5: more open place now.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, and the thing is, you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about Claudia playing her favor her a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: You've been talking about that for years, so this is
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  Speaker 3: something you serious about.
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  Speaker 5: She said of everybody that has asked her about it,
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  Speaker 5: that I looked the most like her.
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  Speaker 4: But I, in my heart is into it because I
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  Speaker 4: love her story.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it's horrible how she got thrown away
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  Speaker 5: over a sex tape and sexy pictures with her husband
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  Speaker 5: for and women nowadays and men get on that way,
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  Speaker 5: so something that makes a career. Now we're totally breaking
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  Speaker 5: back then and such a trailblazer in media.
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  Speaker 4: Black women that are in media should know her story.
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  Speaker 4: So salute, I salute the utmost respect for Jane Kennedy.
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  Speaker 3: She could do only fans now that's a that's a
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  Speaker 3: niche market, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Well not about I was sexy fiction, you know, not.
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  Speaker 6: Listen.
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  Speaker 1: But Claudia is seriously so no.
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  Speaker 2: So Claudia and I had dinner with her, and Claudia
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  Speaker 2: looked so much like her. She could not have a
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  Speaker 2: more sweet, more kind and I'm so proud that.
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  Speaker 1: She decided to like continue the book because Claudia was right.
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  Speaker 2: She was very you listen, rightfully so rightfully so she
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  Speaker 2: was very what's the word should use, just not from.
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  Speaker 5: She was definitely shell shocks still because she said once
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  Speaker 5: the you know, the negative news about her came out,
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  Speaker 5: every single booking called and said you're no longer invited
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  Speaker 5: to our city. They canceled everything, and she went into hiding,
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  Speaker 5: which I think is said, so she's been in hiding.
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  Speaker 5: So I think she was very skittish at the time, right,
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  Speaker 5: maybe that's the word for out there.
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  Speaker 3: And understandably so yeah, and that I should have fuck
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  Speaker 3: you up for a long time. When you go have
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  Speaker 3: experiences like that, people just do you wrong in mass
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  Speaker 3: saying that'll miss anybody up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but she's finally telling it. So, yeah, we had
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  Speaker 4: a meeting.
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  Speaker 5: It was actually you know that ten year challenges right now?
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  Speaker 5: It was ten years ago.
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  Speaker 7: Oh it was your twenty sixteen, Yeah it was.
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  Speaker 5: But anyways, that's the nice part of the show. Were
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  Speaker 5: about to get shady, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, listen.
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  Speaker 2: With all that being said, let's kick things off again.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you all for I don't I do not pick
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  Speaker 1: for granted.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you all, Claudia, Dustin and Blue for being available
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  Speaker 2: on holiday.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for having us man.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm grateful for the three of you always, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm grateful for the range jobs who decided to Now
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  Speaker 2: we have twenty five hundred people my right now and
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  Speaker 2: we're only been ten minutes in, so let's get right
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  Speaker 2: into it. Okay, we're gonna talk about the real houseboats
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  Speaker 2: of Potomac. I have very strong feelings about this episode
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  Speaker 2: and I cannot talk about it with my group. But
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  Speaker 2: first things first, we have to get into a reading
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  Speaker 2: session that happened. And no, I'm gonna talk about reading Rainbow.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about readers digest. Okay, I am talking
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  Speaker 2: about Quad Web, who shaded the fuck out of Gazelle
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  Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant on Watch What Happens Live on Sunday Night.
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  Speaker 2: So before I hear from the panel, let me tell
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  Speaker 2: the rain drops exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 1: So, as you all know, Robin Dixon and Giselle.
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  Speaker 2: Bryant have a podcast called Reasonably Shady is on the
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  Speaker 2: Black Offfed network their family. So Robin and Gizelle were
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  Speaker 2: talking about the news that ky Michelle was allegedly joining
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  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Atlanta and how Angel, formerly a
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  Speaker 2: Basketball Wives was joining Married to Medicine. As we all know,
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  Speaker 2: they said some things cay Michelle checked, Robin said all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of things about her because Robin pretty much I'm paraphrasy,
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  Speaker 2: but Robin was pretty much saying, how like you know,
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  Speaker 2: they must run They must be running out of people
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  Speaker 2: to cast a former love and hip hop star. Gazelle
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  Speaker 2: said they must be rummaging and recycling when it came
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  Speaker 2: to her knowing that Angel from Basketball Wives was joining
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  Speaker 2: Marriton Medicine.
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  Speaker 1: Quad and Gazelle were both.
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  Speaker 2: The guests of Andy Cohen Show Sunday Night, Quad decided
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  Speaker 2: to confront her head on live on television and pretty
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  Speaker 2: much told Giselle that I heard what you said.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I like you a lot. I love you, boots.
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  Speaker 2: However, you made some comments about my show men lie numbers,
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  Speaker 2: don't lie. Mariti Medicine is actually doing better than Potomac
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  Speaker 2: and Salt Lake City, and you did say some things
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  Speaker 2: about rummaging and recycling with Angel Ang's a beautiful person.
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  Speaker 2: Gizelle said, I didn't say that. Robin did, and she said,
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  Speaker 2: if you have an issue with Robin, I'm not her.
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  Speaker 1: Quad said, I know, Robin. That's my sorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I know she is y'all don't even look alike, but
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  Speaker 2: I believe you did say it.
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  Speaker 1: Rote that beautiful being footage.
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  Speaker 2: We did, and Quad, we we are journalists, Hey Porscha,
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  Speaker 2: Hey Claudia, as journalists. We did roll the beautiful footage
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  Speaker 2: and Quad was right. Gizelle literally said what Quad said.
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  Speaker 2: She said, I want to start with blue Blue. What
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  Speaker 2: were your thoughts when you saw all of that unfold?
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  Speaker 8: When I saw it unfold, I could tell that Gizelle
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  Speaker 8: is so used to people coming at her sideways that
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  Speaker 8: direct communication confuses her.
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  Speaker 7: Because she was stuttered. She was buffering.
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  Speaker 8: You could see a little circle around her head going
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  Speaker 8: in circles. And the fact that she threw Robin under
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  Speaker 8: the bus was bizarre to me because I thought that
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  Speaker 8: was your greed I abandoned, like I thought that was
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  Speaker 8: your homewhere, your ace bon coon. And it just shows
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  Speaker 8: that Gazelle has an allegiance to just being for Cizel.
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  Speaker 7: Gazelle's worried about Jazelle.
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  Speaker 8: Anybody who tries to align with her, if it doesn't
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  Speaker 8: behoove her, she will throw you under the bus. I
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  Speaker 8: was actually, for the first time, felt bad for Robin
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  Speaker 8: for being scapegoaded. And I don't think I would ever
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  Speaker 8: say that, never thought those words would leave my lips,
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  Speaker 8: but I felt bath Robin Dixon, So that took a lot.
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  Speaker 8: It made me even more obsessed with Quad though, because
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  Speaker 8: Quad leined in. She was like, I want you to
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  Speaker 8: mount my breath when I check you, like she she
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  Speaker 8: made sure that they were this close. Giselle had to
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  Speaker 8: actually pull back if she watched the body language, so
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  Speaker 8: y'all had to pull back because she was like, I
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  Speaker 8: want to see my eye wives when I check you
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  Speaker 8: on this and when she saillell lies. She's like, that's fine,
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  Speaker 8: I know what I saw. You were involved, Tell them
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  Speaker 8: it was me. And I just think that Quad is
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  Speaker 8: right married to medicine. I think that show doesn't get
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  Speaker 8: enough credit a lot of times in the Bravo verse
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  Speaker 8: because the housewives are seeing as the top echelon, and
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  Speaker 8: Gazelle is so used to running circles around people. Because
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  Speaker 8: Karen Huger isn't there, she might have forgotten what's happening.
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  Speaker 8: In the other franchises, you don't mess with the Squad.
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  Speaker 8: There's receipts to tell you that you don't mess with
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  Speaker 8: Miss Squad. So I loved seeing Gazelle be reminded that
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  Speaker 8: she's not the queen of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Claudia Jordan.
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  Speaker 5: I like direct con I like going straight to the
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  Speaker 5: so my damn self, I'm a very direct person. All
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  Speaker 5: the beating around the bush, That's why it's like it
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  Speaker 5: frustrates me with people don't so I appreciate that. I
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  Speaker 5: think the conversation is like that, even the topic, it's
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  Speaker 5: not that big of a deal. Shows do that cross pollinate.
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  Speaker 5: It's not a big deal, and then they and I
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  Speaker 5: will say.
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  Speaker 4: I think Potomac's probably done it the least, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean, Like.
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  Speaker 5: Housewives has done it, Marriage to Medicine has definitely done it.
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  Speaker 4: But so who cares.
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  Speaker 5: It's like it's a non thing, Like whatever gives us
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  Speaker 5: a good show, I'm here for it.
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  Speaker 4: But I thought that was joked. The way Qui did it.
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  Speaker 4: She gave her I won't.
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  Speaker 5: Even say nice nasty because she was like, I love you,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm gonna hold you accountable. And and Giselle did live.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we can be nice on the low end,
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  Speaker 5: we can say that, she forgots. On the high end,
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  Speaker 5: she's with lying, you know what I mean. So you know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why you would do that when people
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  Speaker 5: can easily roll back the footage.
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  Speaker 4: So I think she was totally caught off guard.
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  Speaker 5: So she was like, I didn't say it, but to
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  Speaker 5: throw you a girl on the bus, which she should
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  Speaker 5: have said. Up it was me like I have a
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  Speaker 5: terrible memory and I probably do say shady stuff. I
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  Speaker 5: would have said, we did say that, And here's why,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, I think that's a better
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  Speaker 5: way of handling it, because then who can fault you
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  Speaker 5: for that? Like you stood your ground, and she, of
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  Speaker 5: all people, one knows like we're dealing with Angel this
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  Speaker 5: whole season. How much you can't stand when people don't
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  Speaker 5: stand their ground, and then for you to not like
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  Speaker 5: she should have just said, yeah, I did say that
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  Speaker 5: would have been dope, but you know, to say now
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  Speaker 5: she took an l on that one.
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  Speaker 4: She took a.
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  Speaker 1: Sure dustin ross.
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  Speaker 3: Laugh already, man, Look, I ain't even finn over intellectualize
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  Speaker 3: this shit. Chouad check the shit out of Zel right
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  Speaker 3: there on that Watch What Happens Live stage.
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  Speaker 6: That was some old school back of the bus outside
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  Speaker 6: of the school yard. Ass.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a nice little one too. She she checked
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  Speaker 3: her real smooth, real church like. It was very much
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  Speaker 3: like you know, I'm a past. It was like she
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  Speaker 3: had a peppermint in her mouth at church while she
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  Speaker 3: was checking Jazelle.
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  Speaker 6: That's what it felt, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody knows Gazelle is the big dog over Epotomac, and
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  Speaker 3: we know that she's really not a quick witted person.
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  Speaker 3: She's a confessional gangster that's so to speak, or whatever
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  Speaker 3: the fuck they call it. But she's not one who
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  Speaker 3: can really get in the paint. Right there, a person
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  Speaker 3: a person face to face and have a war of words.
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  Speaker 3: That's why Candis used to eat her alive every re union.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all know how it's gonna go care and be tearing
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  Speaker 3: her up. Is Jamal coming all that shit. You know
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  Speaker 3: we haven't forgotten about none of that, so we just
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  Speaker 3: i mean unfortunately, like her arms was too short to
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  Speaker 3: box with Quad.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Quid straight up checked her.
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  Speaker 6: It was nice and nasty.
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  Speaker 3: It was Giselle was embarrassed, which made it even funnier
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  Speaker 3: to watch and see.
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  Speaker 6: That's why she ended up throwing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, somebody got your ass on the ropes when
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  Speaker 3: you go to just giving up your friends and family,
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  Speaker 3: like fuck it, say take them, not me, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: That's what happened.
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  Speaker 3: Because Quid literally had Gazelle on the ropes head busted
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  Speaker 3: and swoll up like Martin when Tommy Hearns had whooped
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  Speaker 3: his ass on that one episode. That's how you look
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  Speaker 3: by the time that verbal exchange was over, and it
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  Speaker 3: was so good to watch. Our Quiet is notorious for
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  Speaker 3: getting in that chair. She checked Kenya in that chair.
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  Speaker 3: She checked a few people in that what what Happens
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  Speaker 3: Live chair. That's what Qui does and the fact that
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  Speaker 3: she threw in the stats from the ratings or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: That was just twisting the knife. It was good to
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  Speaker 3: latch entertainment. I loved it. Quiet told her ass up,
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  Speaker 3: that's what happened.
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  Speaker 2: I watched that clip summertimes because look, I've drove all
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  Speaker 2: three of you guys.
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  Speaker 1: I like direct communication.
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  Speaker 2: You know, nothing makes me more annoy than when you
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  Speaker 2: speak in your confessionals versus of the person's face.
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  Speaker 1: I hate subtle shade online, like.
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  Speaker 2: Put put a name on it, you know, the way
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  Speaker 2: Jada Wade did this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's a but heye, Jada, hey, Ari?
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  Speaker 6: Did I stuttered?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Did I stutter?
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  Speaker 6: Wow?
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  Speaker 1: That's why Mama Lay is vine old crew.
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  Speaker 2: But I love Quad because, like Dustin said, Quad is
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  Speaker 2: somebody and this is how I.
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  Speaker 1: Feel Quad feels.
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  Speaker 2: Quad has always said publicly, along with the other Maritime
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  Speaker 2: Medicine cast members, they do feel like they are the
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  Speaker 2: esteem step children of the network.
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  Speaker 1: Not that they never did anything.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it's more so of how Housewives obviously, even today
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  Speaker 2: is the biggest franchise in the world.
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  Speaker 1: It's an international show.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you're a show, two times your celebrity skyrockets
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  Speaker 2: like no other, and it happens really fast. I've always
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  Speaker 2: said this, and I love all the shows, but I've
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  Speaker 2: said this for years. If this ain't no secret, Maritime
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  Speaker 2: Medicine is the best.
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  Speaker 1: Show on Bravo. And I've always said that for years.
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  Speaker 2: I've always said it's the show that you guys aren't watching.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are watching it.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: What Quad pointed out obviously was listen one one week
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  Speaker 2: Maritive Medicine live day ratings did be Potomac and Salt
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  Speaker 2: Lake City, right, So that's what she was referring to.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people in the comments are asking whether
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  Speaker 2: she mean by that she was referring to that particular
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  Speaker 2: week where it did happen. Marritive Medicine has a lot
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  Speaker 2: to celebrate, and I think, look, I think in quast defense,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's two things.
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  Speaker 1: One, you do get tired of people.
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  Speaker 2: Shading your show, and especially when it comes to Housewives,
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  Speaker 2: because Housewives is seen as the upper echelonas them show,
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  Speaker 2: it's the same. The four of us talked about ky
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  Speaker 2: Michelle joining the show and how people have this reaction
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  Speaker 2: to it because people do look at Love and Hip
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  Speaker 2: Hop like it's a Ratchett show. Lest they think it's
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  Speaker 2: ratchet for several reasons, one of them, I want it.
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  Speaker 7: I have a lot of friends on that show.
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  Speaker 4: Work I got.
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking I'm not looking forward to Thursday. I gotta
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  Speaker 5: do some I'm like, I can't believe it's happened to me.
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  Speaker 6: Happened you better. I know it's your glass. Better not miss.
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  Speaker 3: If they got you on that mother fucking throwing drinks
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  Speaker 3: and ship, you better connect with the glass.
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  Speaker 6: Claudia, Oh no, no, I.
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  Speaker 4: Would not be the duck ducky.
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  Speaker 5: If I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do the show, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So to look so so it's just in Quas defense.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of it was He's tired American
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: medicine being seen as second fiddle and Angel in real life,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Angel is really Quas friend.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: And has been her friend for almost a decade of
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: not more. They're really friends.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: That was about that makes perfectly okay.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: It's like if someone said anything about you three, I'm
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: not gonna sit there and not say anything by the
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: next to the person.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like can sha Qualdia doesn't bluw it in front
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: of me, you know what I'm saying?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Like me and Claudia talked about this how the beginning,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: like you got Claudia, Yes, I do, and she will
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: be here as long as you want to. Like, I
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: don't care what I gotta.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Say so mad, that'd be so mad. I'm cute, funny.
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: Well now, but that's what I mean. You had an ever,
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: I mean, what's no? But again, I'm not way small.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Yes I'm bragging again, gun Ship Okay, sorry, as you should.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: So I'm with Quid. I'm always gonna diferend friend my friend.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Now, hmm, way, Carlos, let's stay in there for a second.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I don't want to want to throw you off, but
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: that makes perfect sense because I don't know if y'all
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: watch that whole episode to watch what happens. Why I
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: was throwing shots at Jasel the entire entire episode.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Challenging, pushing back everything anything Jazelle said. Why I was
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: pushing back against it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: She was asking questions and response to shit that Gazelle
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: was saying.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: She was giving Gazelle a hard time literally.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: So that little piece of information you just gave us
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: about the connection that Angeline Quiet has makes so much
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: sense now because I was just thinking so damn Quiet
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: don't fuck with Gazelle at all.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: But now I know why that makes perfect sense.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah on her neck.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, she actually likes Gazelle, but she wanted and listen.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: That's why no one can make me mad at Quapa
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: what she did, because if you are, if you feel
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: some kind of way, and that person's there, then you
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: have everybody to address it on the network in which
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: both of you guys are stars.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I didn't think, why did enything wrong?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Now in Giselle's defense, oh listen, listen, like Claudia was
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: alluding too earlier. When you have a podcast, you do
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: say a bunch of stuff, and it is sometimes hard
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to remember on a I'll speak for myself.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I share my podcast with a lot of people, right.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: So sometimes I may not remember exactly.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But I've been confronted by Robin Dixon.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: At a party I told that story me A Thornton
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: confronted me. I've been confronted by who else rain Draws
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: because I told my Rain Draws long story short. I've
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: been confronted by reality stars based on what I've said
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: on this show or on my own with other people.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: And ask anybody who knows me, I stand there and
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I listen and I take it, and I either feel
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: the need to apologize if it's something that I felt
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: was super shady, or I'm gonna stand on business and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: say I said what I said and keep you pushing.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: So I do think when it.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Comes to the marrit To lady, the Mariti medicine ladies
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: check me, the Moon checked me, I'm not.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Responding like that to whom it may concerns.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: So before anybody say any motherfucking thing to me, I'm
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: not responding the way Carlos do to any of that.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: And this ain't no dialogue. We offering commentary.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I double down every goddamn week about the fact that
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: what we're talking about ain't personal. You're saying something to
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: me in public is personal, and I'm gonna respond accordingly.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: So I ain't Carlos. I respect and love my brother,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: but don't say shit to me. I'm just like the
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: public because you're not gonna get a good response at all.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: It's it's gonna be bad for all of us, you
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: So just that why.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: I we got the bail money friend, check me walk.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: So point my point is it has happened to me
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it when it's face to face and we
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: all dress and we move on from it. So when
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: it comes to Gazelle, I really I do believe Gizelle
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: did not remember.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think she.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, I don't think she she did not remember.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So in Gizelle's defense, I think she was like we
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: all say, shit, a look, Quad did a damn thing,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and Pod come get your batty chain for real.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: It's something sometimes you do in these shows, though, like
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: the thing you think is gonna get the clicks and
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: they're gonna get clipped doesn't get it. And then something
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: that you just kind of said in passing, because when
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: I watched it was like it was kind of it wasn't.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Like a big they didn't make a big deal about that.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: They kind of talked about a little bit, and you're
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: like kind of like, wait what. But I do think
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: the right response, and I think we said this earlier
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: should have been I don't remember or I did, instead
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: of just immediately your default being to throw your bestie
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: on the buck.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: It's Robin, that's the part, Like Robin get in it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: It's one thing that to remember, it's another thing to
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: be like, oh, I do remember it was Robin like
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: just say you don't remember, but how did Robin just
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: magically appear?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Robin should feel away over that. Yeah, rob should feel away.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you gotta me defending Robin Dixon chown. Let's early,
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: let's go.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: I'd have been mad if my calls to that to me, like,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: i'ld be like, fuck, say my name Ship?
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: I got I just walked up in this.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: How I can Okay, I got enough cancelations out there.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I don't need you to add.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: To Robin's seeing them notifications at two fifteen pm, who
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: got up?
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: She was like, what the hell?
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: It's like, why come look at this?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Well, I will say that's gonna make their next episode
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: that they do interesting to watch to see if she
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: has a little latitude towards her, if she.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Robin don't give a fuck. She cool tripping by ship
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: like that. You know what I'm saying. She she don't care,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: She don't care about nothing. The way came and she'ld
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: lit her ass up, caught her a couch potato and
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: ship after when they was talking shit in the first place,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: and Robin didn't. He rolled off her back. That is
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: one thing. Robin got thick skin.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: She does. She don't give a damn what they say
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: about her.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: We did all want what happens live together and we
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: went out to eat afterwards, and I don't I didn't
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: know much about her history, but she was cool to Yeah,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: you know, I see a lot of people have their
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: very strong opinions on her. But that's admirable not to
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: let stuff like that roll off your back often because
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: that reality thing that that dragging is, it can hurt sometimes.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like Dustin said, it may have for great entertainment.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I was highly entertained by it. And look, I want
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: to say for the record that I don't think there's
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: any future beef between Quad and Giselle. I think it happened,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and I think it's sort of like they moved on
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: from it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: So listen.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I thought was fascinating as we get into this episode
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: of the Real Housewives of Potomac, this was a hard
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: episode to watch. Yeah, rain Drops, let me know the
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: comments your thoughts on it, So listen. The episode jumped
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: off with you know, Angel in the car and she's
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: talking to the girls, KK and who else with the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: car It was KK, yeah, being.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: A follower.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Talking about the things that Monique was saying about her
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: in regard to her marriage to Bobby. Seeing the similarities,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Angel said, you know, she wants to be able to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: talk about a hit on and then from there she didn't.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Talk about it. But the thing is that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Look, I like Angel a great deal and I want
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: to hear from you guys before we get to what
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: happened on the PJ. When I saw Angel say, she
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: wasn't happy about it and then she did not want
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to bring it up to Monique.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Angel, in my.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Opinion, this show just isn't for her and this episode
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say way more as we get to
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: the all the scenes, but I want to start about
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the first one. That moment really did show me that, look,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: this show has been on for ten seasons and I
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: just don't feel like this show is for her and
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think these women are her women. And I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: think that's okay to say. But Claudia, your thoughts.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: I actually found that episode it was like for entertainment,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: It was entertaining, but there was also some cringe moments.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I one agree that this group is not for her.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: I won't go as far as I've said in the
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: past and say she's should never be on TV. You
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: don't like that because you guys have the whole mercurial
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: mountain and show that you guys want to do.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But I.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Do think it is I just can't quit you. That's
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: her attitude. I just can't quit this show when she should.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: It's getting painful to watch the abuse every week, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: at this point it's getting to starting to feel that way.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Yes, she contributes to it, but I do.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Feel like the girls are definitely mean girls to her,
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: and she also contributes to why they mean girls to her.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: But at this point, like I think it's going on.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Two many weeks where it's like five on one, four
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: on one, and it kind of feels yucky. Like it
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: was funny at first, like you know, they did it
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: to Stacy, then they came over to her and it
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: just never ended. It's actually making her more famous, it's making.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Her more relevant.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: We talk about her majority of the reviews Angels Angel Angel, Angel,
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: Angel Angel, whether we like it or not. Right, she's
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: getting four episodes from her cast trip that's a lot.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: That's a third what was that was the third of
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: the season. For how many episodes for the season.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I'm seventeen so far, almost a quarter.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Of the season, like a quarter of the season. That's
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: a lot of episodes. I did see. I guess I
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: sent you guys a clip about it was really production.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I picked that house and she had to get out
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: the smoke for that, and that definitely does happen. You know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: it wasn't on purpose to get storyline, and I think
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: that's something that if that's the case, that's fucked up
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: because she's been getting dragged for that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: But I do think that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Let me add to that because I did see what
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: you see me and I want to talk about it here.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: So there is this constant creator who is who said Again,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Angel didn't say.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: This is some body who said it. I don't know
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the guy.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Look, I can confirm that when you are on a
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: cast trip, the production definitely have options they present to you.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: That is her hometown, that's where she lives. She agreed
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: to that, and that is that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Look in Angel's defense, though, no, I don't think production
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: on anyone knew the degree of.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: The water situation, which is an unfortunate thing.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And that's why the focus should definitely be more on
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: that part of it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: But we also got to be honest here.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Angel said out of her own mouth in a very
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: mercurial way that she gloated at the accommodation, specifically for
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Ashley and Gazelle. So yes, Production definitely gave her option.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: She chose that one. It's sort of like me going
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to Rhode Island. I don't know anything about Rhode Island.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: But if I present you option, you say this one,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: then we we're gonna go with that one.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: We can afford it. But yes, no one.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Could have predicted the extremities of the water situation and
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: that should not be on Angel at all. And I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: agree with that. But we also have to be honest
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: here and say, Angel.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Smirkedly if that's a word.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Was all her big one happy that her friends kay
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Kay and Tilla were staying back at the house.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: So take some ownership to that too.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: So that's why I'm saying, like, there's two things to
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: be true at the same time.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Right, Yes, she may have the productions. The accommodations may,
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: for the benefit of doubt, be out of her hands,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: because a lot of times does all that who could
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: have forecast that they have to shit in the pot
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: or whatever wherever they had to go to dot. Who
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: would have predicted that it But it does just kind
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: of work out for how her attitude was and how
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: happy she was and how she did glow. So it's
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: like when she's in these positions, she doesn't choose the
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: road that helps her, you know what I mean, Because
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: it looks like it's easy to believe maybe she did,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: because the way she was like, they're gonna be over there,
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: it doesn't help her out. So again, she contributes to
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: the gifback she gets on the show by her reaction.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: To some of the things.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Instead of coming back in a funny way and making
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: the best of things, she kind of digs a deeper
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: hole with some of her reactions. And I think that's
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: what's rubbing people the wrong way, and it's making us
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: people not like not be here for her. But I
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: did feel bad for her a few times during this episode.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: But then I gotta remember, if I was on a
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: cast strip and you set this up and I'm in
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: a place that doesn't have any running water, I'm gonna
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: be just as mad as Gizelle was on the airplane.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I don't even think that was an overreaction. If anything,
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: it may have been an underreaction because if I'm I'm
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: I'm not staying in a house where the toilet doesn't work.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Fuck all that whole bath.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Blue with her thoughts on on Angel, not on
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Angel filming some kind of way by Monique, and then we'll.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Get into the PJ situation.
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: I think there are mean girls, and Angel's just not
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: as great as everybody else.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: I think they're all mean girls, right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: So I just it's always tricky for me when I'm
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: being asked to feel bad that one mean girl is
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: not good as good at her attempt at being a
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: mean girl.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: As the other ones are.
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: Right, like You're, there's no victims here, in my opinion,
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: I think to Claudia's point, Angel wanted to have a
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: moment of superiority and it blew up in her face.
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: She bit off more than she could chew, and she
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: pissed off.
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: She wanted Gizelle's approval, but she got herself's attention in
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: a way that she didn't bank on. If you have
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: me doing a whole bath, if you have me squatting
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: in the woods with coyotes ninety minutes away from you.
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Angel, I feel bad watching you get the
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: ass open that you kind of aren't. So it's tricky,
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean, Like it's money, something really
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: messed up. And also to watching Angel try to be
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: on the show, it's kind of like watching somebody who's
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: alliterate being a spelling Bee, Like you feel bad for them,
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: but they're not equipped and whose fault is that?
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Like why are you here?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean when you spell mercurial?
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know you know what I'm saying.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So, like I'm kind of mad you're in the
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: spelling b Baby, you had to learn how to read first,
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: and so like the Spelling Bee didn't didn't really do
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: that to you this this the rules are pretty clear
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: and so for.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Me my feelings, Angel Carlos, you went dustin.
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: When y'all make that face, I find myself questioned me,
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: Am I wrong?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: Did I lie?
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: No?
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: Not at all?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Open up the floor?
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: Did I lie? I won't?
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I won't.
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: My cast makes it okay.
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: So because she's illiterately at the Spelling Bee, it's kind
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: of like the rules were pretty clear from the front.
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: Baby, you have to know how to sign the form,
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: and also too.
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: I do think it's a little bizarre that Angel talks
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: so big but seems so scared. Whenever she's a woman
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: to be direct, you're gonna have to pick one baby.
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: I honestly think she's weaponizing her tears. She's very Karen
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: at this point, and we feel bad for Karen.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: So you're supposed to feel bad for her.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: Doesn't mean that you weren't part of the chaos, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: so you're feeling bad for Angel was by the sue.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: I think she's incredibly manipulative. I knew every feel bad
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: for her because they were supposed to. But because of
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: the kind of work I do. We listen to what
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: Tia said, we didn't check on people pissing in pots
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: because we woke up to Angel crying.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when she had the chance to fix that, or
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: to least like, okay, maybe the house, shitty.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: House, you said to yourself.
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: Angel always centers herself even when she's not the victim,
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: and makes herself the victim. So I know why you
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: all feel bad, but my training won't allow me to
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: join you.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: She contributed to it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: She's a Karen. Sorry, not sorry, all right?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, Dustin Wroth, I is Angel or Karen Dustin.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: No what Angel is? Okay, so it's no secret. You
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Angel's personality has gotten on my nerves in the earlier
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: episodes of this season, and as we progressed, right, I've
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: been honest about that. However, right she got to stop
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: letting people talk to her crazy.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: It's just that simple.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Be who you are, use the vernacular you use, hold
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: the tip of your hat all you want. Stop letting
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: these people talk to you like they have lost their
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: fucking minds. The way that Giselle Bryant set on that
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: airplane and berated Angel as if that was her mother,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: as if that was her child or whatever, and Jaselle
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: was the mama was crazy. The way Wendy was talking
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: was crazy. The way Stacey was talking was crazy. The
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: way Ashley was talking was crazy. And ain't no way
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: in hell Angel should have sat there explaining herself over
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: and over again. I'd have left them all in their
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: shitty draws where they stood. If they were speaking to
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: me like that, your big grown ass. All of y'all
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: are mothers, you know what I'm saying, or whatever the fuck,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: get your ass up and get somewhere else. People don't
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: stay in shitty accommodations when they have options, not for
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: no full n You get there, you see it's fucked up,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: and you figure out a plan be immediately right there
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: in the moment. So all that staying and then waiting
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: on a phone call or waiting on an uber to
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: come whatever the fuck Wendy was talking about on that airplane,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: that's on y'all, because I would have been on my
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: one ya from boys to men.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: Let's not wait till the water rents drive.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, as soon as I seen the ship wasn't working,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: it would have been time to roll. You know what
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, Just like anybody else. I can't even wash
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: my ass up in here, and it's hot, So think
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: about that. Your ass ain't right and it's hot. That's
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: not gonna work. So do you think she's.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Kind of trained them on how to be able to
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: because if you never.
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: Absolutely I think talking to her like that, If you
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: don't speak up for yourself and check a motherfucker from
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: talking to you crazy, especially in a group of other people,
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: the rest of the people around are gonna punk you too.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: And that's just that. That's back playground.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Rest of ship, Monique was talking about the breakfast club.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Ta get back to the playground. That's playground ship. You
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Ashley, who can't check nobody, Wendy
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: who ain't in a position to check nobody, Stacey, who
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: can't even check herself, you know what I'm saying. They
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: all are just talking to Angel like she is literally
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: a person that don't deserve no respect. And as much
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: as she has not been my favorite person on this show,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: as much as I would rather see what you call it,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Claudia the Mountain, the Mercurial Mountain show, as much as
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I would watch that show about her outfitter, she still
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: don't deserve nobody talking to her like that.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: But that's also her responsibility to check that. If you
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: like it, I love it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: She's explaining and apologizing over and over again and crying,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and shit, I'd be damn if they ever seen a
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: tear rolling down my face the way I would have
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: tore their asses up from left to right, just after
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: she had already fucking tried her best to find some solution.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: And y'all gonna get on here yelling and cussing me.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I don't telling me shit on your finger, on my face.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I would have them the fuck they would have had
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: to land that play.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I guess it's like I'm not as empathetic about that
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: scene because they spent thirteen weeks of her letting it
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: fly and then say, well, I want the ladies to
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: get to know me and be mindful, and this is
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: not why I put out there. So they're trained like
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: it's almost like someone with the guy that she's on
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: them all the time, right, someone that she's on them
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: all the time, and you let it fly, let it fly,
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: let it fly, let her fly. Of course they'll keep
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: on doing it and be unapologetic about it. She's conditions
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: women to talk crazy her again. I'm with you justin
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: I checked disrespect the very fucking first time. So people
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: say that common hot Yep, yes I do. But guess what,
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: you won't try me again without a memorable read. You
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: will not try me.
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: But they begged her. Guys, they bet one thing I came.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: If I'm about to say something nice about Jaseelle, the
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: one thing I would say about that. Giselle and Wendy
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: and even Ashley all got right in that scene, even
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: though I thought they were all being nasty mean again.
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: I think they're all being mean girls in different ways.
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: Some mean girls cry after doing something that didn't work,
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: and so mean girls are attacking.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: It's all mean girls.
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: So I'm not gonna pretend that Angel is an innocent
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: person just because other girls are disrespectful.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: They can all happen at the same time.
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: But Wendy looked at her and said, we preferred it
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: if you just admitted that you don't fuck with us.
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: If you had just owned it, we would have respected
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: you more.
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: Had you just said, I like them, so they're in
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: my house, I don't like so you in the good
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: or ninety minutes away with the coyotes pissing in the pot.
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: Had you said that, we could have had fun with that,
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: because we've all done that to each other.
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: We can't respect you because you keep lying.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: And they started to beg her Angel, if you just
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: tell the truth, we can at least try to respect you, and.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: She still kept lying.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: At some point, even somebody who is a good person
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: is going to snap when you're looking in my face
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: and you're lying to me, when you're doing the thing
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: that we've all done, so we can clock it. And
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: that's frustrating for everybody inclusion justsell Brian's not perfect. But
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: I would have been just as frustrated with are in
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: that moment. But I'm telling my truth, baby.
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: This takes showing that you're lying your yes, that's yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: that's all I want.
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: I think the thing about Angel is they want her
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: to buck up so they can have fun with her,
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: and she keeps crumbling.
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: And it makes it very ere. They're exhausted and frustrated.
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: They're mean, But I understand the frustration actually in that
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: scene because she can't tell.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: You what it is. I'm gonna tell you what it is.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: And this is coming from reality producer. When you are
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: a newbie and Claudia U Timber, I got this wrong.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: Child.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: You are a newbie coming onto an established show.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sort of like a rookie going on a
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: championship sports team. Nobody can join Lebron James Lakers without
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: you earning the respect of the of the captain of
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the team, of the other starting five players.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: There there's a there's a way you have to earn it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying it's wrong.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you how it is because we're not
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: gonna act like it's just the reality girls being mean.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: This ship happens in sports, it happens on set and
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: scripted shows. I did in Hollywood Divas. I know a
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: thing or two about it. Hi, Golden Brooks.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: High Comfort Ball. Anyway, My thing.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Is this, It's one of those things where those girls
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: like you guys are saying they want Angel.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: To show them, like, okay, shows what you got. I
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: do agree with you.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I think they were testing her and she failed miserably
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: because she says one thing behind the scenes and she
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: says another and I'm sorry. The moment she was not
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: honest about renting an Airbnb to be on the show,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: the girls loss respect for her because they realized, you
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: don't even kind of like, you're not.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Even here right.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: The reason why we saw Stacey stop getting Haye is
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: because Stafty flipped.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: It on them.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: And that's why now be like, well shit, she checked
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: us and she got us, and there's nothing else to
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: go here. When I said that, they love Stacy knockause
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: they're like, she earned it.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Wendy, same thing with the other girls.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: The thing is this, when you are a new girl
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: hopping on to reality show. And I'm gonna say this,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: and it's not gonna sound nice because y'all don't like
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the truth. Giselle Bryant runs Potomac and it is what
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: That show is not run by Karen, that show is
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: not run by nobody but Gazill.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Karen is a wonderful co captain. Don't get me wrong.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: The Real Housewives of Potomac is ran by Jazelle Bryant.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, and the evidence that display this episode was how
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I have never seen Giselle Yale at a girl hate
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Tar Banks so.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Much that.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: None of the girls said, Gazelle, you doing the most.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I remember doing season six of Atlanta Housewives and the
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: girls were at mean ease.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Not her house, but what you call that when you
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: are in a what you call that house? I was
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: thinking Claudia Ninie's clubhouse going to Savannah.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, Alana, Atlanta Housewives always belonged.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: To Meani and it's no shade, so leave me alone. Now.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: With that being said, when Mieni felt the girls were
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: being disrespectful of being late, she left, We called her back,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: she came back.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: She got on the bus kinga defended Nini and said,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: y'all there, meaning Rocks, she's the host.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Nini said nothing, Candy Birds and her red hair, sit
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: your hair, because listen, it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Was Minie's trip. Kinga was defending the host. Candy felt like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: who the fuck you're talking to, bitch.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Much Yes, So I'm saying all of that to say,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I was disappointed in the other ladies for not being
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: like Giselle.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, now look, let's all figure something out.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: But for each of those ladies to hop on the
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: gravy train that is specialized with tumoric sauce and chili
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: powder by Giselle Bryant. I was disappointed that nobody said
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: even and listen, KK, you know I love you down
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: BOOTSYK tried but your life everything. You could have done
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: a better job KK defending Angel.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I was disappointed in ukkn I love you down, Boots
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and Tia.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: You failed miserably. None of you girls had Angels back
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: and that was the sad part to me. And and
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I'm end with this. Let Gazelle do her job, and
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: all of y'all need to understand your role, just like
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: athletes understand the roles on the team. Not everybody can
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: be lebron. Not everybody can be supon Curry. Not everybody
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: can be nub on the call sheet like Angela Bassett,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: play your position. So for all of y'all to act
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: like Gazelle.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Bryant'sions, Yeah, the way I would have been calling all
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: of the asses musty vagabonds and shit. I would have
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: been going in on a dirty floor rolling asses had
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I been the person that was on the other end
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: of that, Because how dare you to me? We're talking
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: about the most basic level of respect being you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: cross the most basic line of respect being crossed. I
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: just now, y'all know, angel ain't my favorite person on
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: this cast, but seeing the way that they were speaking,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: literally speaking to her, I didn't give a fuckable. I
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: felt like they had a reason to be mad. I
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: felt like they had something that was needed to be said,
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: But it was the way that they was talking to her,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: which was just like mind blowing for me. I don't
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: know how, I don't know why she was allowing that.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: That's all she's allowing it because she is not being
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: herself on the show. It gives me, Oh, I bet you,
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: in real life, she probably woudn't let that fly but
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: it's because oh she's either starstruck, she's a deer in headlights.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: She reminds me of the actress that goes an actress
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: that goes on a reality show and thinks they can
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: do this, but then they're in their head too much
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: about Wait. But I don't want this to seem like
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: I don't want to see them like no, no, not
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: not any her specifically. I'm just saying like, when actresses
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: do reality shows, a lot of times they are just
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: too much in their head and they're producing themselves. And
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: I think she cares too much about what her overall
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: storyline character all that, because in real.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Life, a no black woman gonna let no one.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: Pop off like that without going on the fuck up.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: You worry too much about what the fans are saying
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: the chat. You worry too much about how it's gonna
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: look instead of being present.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: She's not present. That's why she's so depressed.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: She's why she's crying, That's why she's like up down,
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: that's why she's not.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Saying the thing in real time.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: But then later confessional, she's a confessional gangster because that's
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: what she's being herselph more and she's not doing it.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: She freezes up when the cameras when she's in scene
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: with the girls, And I think that's what's frustrating about it,
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: because no sister is gonna let that go down. Yes,
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: and I would have been as mad as Gazelle. I'm gonna, yeah,
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: you got me fucked up in a whole time in
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: a house, flush the toilet.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna be just as rude as Giselle was.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: But the difference with me and.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: With the difference is you have let these girls check you, dish,
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: you be disrespectful to your face.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Laugh, cackle, and you did nothing. You did nothing. So
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: now I'm not surprised when they keep doing it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't right, It wasn't right, But you, like
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: I said earlier, she's contributing to how they're treating her
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: by not checking them the very first time someone gets
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: out of pocket. You never get a second chance to
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: make a first impression right your first time on the show.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: You gotta let it be known right away. I'm not
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: the bitch to play with.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: What a missed opportunity, right, I personally have always wanted
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: to cut somebody out on the airplane, let alone a
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: private jet and.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: So you see everybody else jumped on it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Giselle enjoyed her moment of cutting somebody the funk out
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: on PJ. Weindy got a little piece. Stacey was over there,
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Caddy Corner, she got a little piece too. Everybody did.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Angel could have held the back of that seat and
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: tore them up. And I don't know why she didn't
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: do that, man, And you, why didn't you do it?
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: Angel? How you doing? Angel? Why didn't you do it?
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Why didn't you cut someone on a plane like that?
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: Nothing like the Little Women Show? But why you ain't
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: doing that?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: Angel style? You gotta stand up for yourself, Mama.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: You can't keep letting them fuck with you like that.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: The reunion has already taped, right, Carlos, They already.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: Taped the reunion, Gangster afterwards, it doesn't feel authentic because
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: every single time you had the layup to dunk the ball,
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: you never do You never spiked the ball, you never
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: do it. So that's why I think it's irritating a
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: lot of the viewers with her, and like, I actually
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: think the last few episodes are at Our Place has
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: been some of the most entertaining ones of the season.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Although I said in the beginning, they made these the
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: port Timba girls work hard because every scene it's like
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: someone's ten shots at you. You gotta like keep your
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: head and a swivel, like damn, she's thissing me, she's
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: this me, She's just me.
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: I did that. Yes, I get that.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: It's really hard to be on that show, but like
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: she's definitely like and then you it feels fake when
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: you go to your confessional and then you want to, well,
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: what I should you talk shit later?
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: Like no, it's not believable.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Even when Justzelle told KK you've been up her ass.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I expect the KK to give Giselle what she gave safety,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: but she gave Wendy even And that's the reason why
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: listen that seems hard to watch, because yes, I really
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: did feel bad for Angel and I didn't felt like
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: she deserve The thing is this, It is not acceptable
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: in any situation for everybody to pile onto one person.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: And that's why there should have been one person be.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Like guys got it, like okay, we got it, like
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: she got she got the message longing clear right, And yes,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure your your pants are sticking to the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: ground because it's not completely white.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I understand it, and you're uncomfortable. I get it.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I get it, and your women and your women. But
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: what I will also say is one more stories that
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I'll move on. I remember on the show I did,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: we had a connecting flight and we were I always
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: fly with the cast because somebody got to be in
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: charge of the girls. So I was flying with the cast,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: and we had a connecting flight somewhere, and the connecting
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: flight did not have any first class seats. And on
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: this particulars show, Honey, the girls have first class in
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: their contracts and fight sarch accommodations. Needless to say, it
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: was a connecting flight to the main destination. It was
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: a thirty minute flight, maybe twenty, but I'll say third, oh, okay, okay,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: we all have to sit and coach. It's a thirty
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: minute connecting flight to a nice place.
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: I don't do coach, so I can't get out bad
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: because they felt like we are so and so on
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: this big show.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: It's in my contract.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: They called their agents because they flew twenty minutes on
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: a flight that had no first class seats. We have
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: to take the l and keep it pushing. So my
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: point is to say all of that. I am shocked
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: that those girls even stay there because the girls I
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: work with a baby baby.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you really can't complain and moan
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: about the accommodations when Giselle you literally had motherfuckers sitting
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: in your driveway swatting flies and mosquitoes in a tent,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: So like, there's that as well, Robbing them. What was that?
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: What was that event Robbing and them had.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: When she was on there, They had like a field,
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: It was a.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Field that that event, for sure. But there was another
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: one too, Carlos that I think Robbing threw. It was
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: the event when Ashley was walking in with her kids
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: and Giselle spoke to her oldest little boy and she's like.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: Hi, Dean, and he was like.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Walking in that park, remember that one with them plastic
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: tablecloths flowing flying in the.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Wind and still day And it was the event that windy.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Wasn't hands and ship and just all that broke down
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: ass ship that they had at that party. So there's
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: been several times where we ain't exactly being in the
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: best eggs here, you.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: And I just thought that it was rich that they
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: decided to just cust Angel to fuck out relentlessly, and
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: they gonna get her ass again next week too, because
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: I saw in the preview for the episode that's coming
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: next week they cussing her ass out again as a
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: group sitting at a table. So I don't know why
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: she's I don't know why she's accepting that. I guess
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: that's the only point I.
• 53:21
  Speaker 8: Want to I have a production question because this is
• 53:24
  Speaker 8: the part that actually bothered me.
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: And despite the fact.
• 53:26
  Speaker 8: That I'm gonna keep advocating that everybody's hands are dirty,
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: we're just talking about whose hands are dirtier.
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: It's definitely just elous.
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: Because she was, you know, fishing the pot the scene
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: that makes all that irrelevant to me, where I was like, okay,
• 53:38
  Speaker 8: even with my feelings about Angel, somebody needs to pull
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: her out. When Giselle pulled up I'm the captain and
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: like kind of debowled her trip from her and said,
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: we're going to the four season and having brunched, and
• 53:49
  Speaker 8: we don't care about what chuen your it inderary because
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: we're probably going home afterwards. Like there was something so
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: violent about how she took and I ain't never seen
• 53:57
  Speaker 8: nobody get took on a trip before.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: Thanks to the trip from Captain.
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: It was the very Pirates of the Caribbean moment that
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: scared the cr I was like, oh, she got a
• 54:05
  Speaker 8: head butter, So where did the producer step be.
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: In Carlos because for Angel safety at this point.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. So listen disclaimer, all production ran differently.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: But what I will say is this. You know, as
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: somebody who who went to the Bravo school of reality producing,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: you really do follow the reality and and and that's
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: why I keeps saying.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Look, I know Gazelle.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: For a lot of people may be the most unlikable
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: woman on the show. And she, let's be clear, she
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: gets it and she don't give a ship right, she
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: doesn't care what anyone thinks about her as long as
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: she gets asked back and the check's clear. That's why
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I said, when it comes to Giselle, everything Gazille has
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: done doesn't surprise me.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: That's who she is.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Right to your point, Blue producers are like, that's very Gazelle.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Gazelle is going to you as much as you let
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: her do it.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: And that's the reason why Angel unfortunately wasn't able to
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: defend herself because she doesn't have.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: It in her to do so.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: And that's why when you look at her husband, he's
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: not fucking with them because rightfully, so that's his wife
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to fuck with somebody.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: My wife that's giving my wife the business.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, but to you answer your question, production, listen, I
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: can guess what happened. Gazelle led the charge and told
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: the girls, I'll speak to production on behalf of us
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: because it's whatever.
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: The Gazelle show, Yeah, and then plug the four seasons
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: by eight times.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: Night.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, so let's say that. Okay, So Gazelle knight with
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: the production and said, y'all.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Expect us to stay here.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Dad.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: They figured it out a way, because you gotta clear
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: the fourth seasons.
• 56:09
  Speaker 8: Ye.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I believe the zell WA's.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Production and complained about the accommodations and they gave her
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: the fourth seasons, and Gizelle felt empowered and she was
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: able to do it.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Look, in most cases, as a.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Producer, you know, you follow it and it works, but
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: it's up to the person who's hosting trip in this case,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Angel to step in. And although Angel tried to step in,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: and say, well, doesn't do some boy's better?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: You know, don't do it?
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: One?
• 56:40
  Speaker 8: Come one, you and Maya Angelou, come on, tap into
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: your inner angel, Maya Angelou.
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: I'm not going to pretend that I'm speaking as an
• 56:57
  Speaker 11: angel talks like this and that I'm.
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: Not gonna do that.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: I no, but listen, a good idea is a good idea,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: and in this case, Gazelle had a good idea. I'm
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: so sorry. I love the outdoors and I love nature.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: God knows I do. You know what I'm saying, But
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: you can only look at so many trees, so much landscape.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: We could be at brunch at the fucking Four Seasons,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I would have been ready
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: to roll with Gazelle and the personally. I'm sorry, but
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: that was just a good idea. And I think sometimes
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: a strong idea just kind of gets in position, it
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: just takes the lead. And that's just what that was.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: They said it's stunk in Chemo Sabi and Ship. I
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: would love to go to the Chimo say, but they
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: were saying it was stinking and Ship think about it,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: and you got the brunch at.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: The Four Seasons.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: Well, nobody is Angel's trend on the show, including Tia
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: and including k because I'm getting cussed out like that
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: in front of my girl, which was you ain't about
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: you talk to my girl like that because the way
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: they were keep king when they were in Angel's house
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: was not matching the energy when you see your girl
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: getting read the FuG down and getting dragged and they
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: gangs to the trip and then I saw everybody toasting
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: to Giselle, and right there, I was like that one
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: is Angel's friend on the show, even the friend she
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: thinks she has. Tiya, we really started off liking you.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: You definitely kind of like kind of went with the wind,
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: and now for some reason they're over here with Angel.
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: But when you had a chance to really, you know,
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: puff your chest up for her, where were you were
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: you out to for Tea, Like what were you doing?
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: It was very like listen, Angel has gotten on my
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: nerves at the last few episodes because I don't like
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: people who don't stand up for themselves and then they
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: talk shit later.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: I don't like people like that in my life. I
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: never rock with that.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: It's very frustrating because you have the vocabulary to do it,
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: because you do it in the confessionals when it's just
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: you and your producer, So do it when it counts
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: because it's hard to defend you. But you would have
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: at least two people that you welcome to your house
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: that should have been more than happy, who were more
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: experienced with cussing the bitch out. They should have at
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: least said something. They didn't say anything. Those are not
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: your friend. You have no friends on that show.
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: I would have defended Angel.
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: I me Blue Tolusma as a stranger at that trip,
• 59:16
  Speaker 8: would have defended Angel more than those girls.
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: Not being her friend.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I definitely would have been in
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: my phone like that's crazy y'all talking to her like
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: that's all crazy did something that all I know is
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: that's fucked up. How I wouldn't love y'all crazy talking
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: to her like that did something like?
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: I would have defended her because I honestly I bully bullies.
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: That's always been my things sentime school, I probab shouldn't
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: say on camera, sorry, but ever since high school, if
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: I see somebody getting bullied, my first start is to
• 59:50
  Speaker 8: attack the bully. That's always been who I am. But
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: also I'm an arias tourist. I'm almost like you in Claudia.
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: I will say this, though, you can't ask people to
• 59:59
  Speaker 8: respect when you are struggling to show how you respect yourself.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: And I do think I'm getting.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: This niggling feeling, little niggling feeling that a part of
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: them was hoping that they could pressure her into standing up,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 8: and when she crumpled even further, they snapped. They were like, oh,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 8: so there's no hope here, get me, get me out
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: of here. They're like her, she stands like to pressure
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 8: her and she just crumbled even further, and I respect plummeted.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: And that's not to throw them bailed, but we've all
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 7: been there.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: There's men that I have dated that were sweet, but
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 8: there were people pleasers and I saw them acting like
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 8: punks with their family, and I said some stuff that
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: I probably shouldn't have.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: God's still working on me, but in.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: That moment, I had no respect for them, and the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: things just came out. You know what I mean, Well,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: you don't respect yourself, it's kind of hard for me
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: to remember that you are.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, especially on that show where like they came out
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: the gate, like those girls work for their checks every week.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: They like they every week, everyone has to like show up.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: So to see someone on the cast that's kind of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: like dragging it it, not stepping in when they should.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: I would be frustrated as someone that, look, I'm going
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: every week, where's she at?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: You gas? You know, dragging it dragon?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: And I will also say that, have you guys ever
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: and this is a personal question, okay, and I know
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: it's girls. Have you ever gone without a shower for
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: a couple of days or.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: A cupful of days?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: I'm asking, I'm asking one day a day. Well, even
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: if you're staying in accommodations that have bad toilet paper, your.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: Butthole's gonna be itchy.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: Oh your booty home.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: So I'm sure they were all and they are women.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: They got a booty hole, and they got a china.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: They probably were so uncomfortable and irritanting. And you're already
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: a celeb. The the booty ass combo, the booty coochy
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: combo plus combo. Is that a candle you're feeling bad?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: You're like, am I gon get back to your not
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: this like I'm not being And I'm already a celebrity
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: and already used to like two thousand count threadsheets and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: I'm over here. I'm definitely gonna be nastier than usual.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: So I understand the frustration in that moment where she
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: was like, look, this is some bullshit. I already don't
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: like you. You don't respect yourself, so I can easy
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: walk a lover you in you got me where I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: can't wash my ass properly. Oh no, get I get
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: the bitchiness. It looks a lot because they all jumped
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: on her, But I do want to stand that part
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: to you.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to you know, I understand both sides.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whose side are you guys on?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: When Jazzy admit it that she did tell Angel what
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Monique said about her when it came to Monique seeing
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: the comparisons between her and Angel as it relates to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Angel being married to a former NFL player, and.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: There's the marit.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Monique obviously a strange husband a former NFL player, and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Jazzys saying, look, I was very concerned about it, and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: that's why I told her. So Dustin, do you think
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Jazzy was concerned about the things that Monique was saying
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: about Angel or do you think Jazzy was just being
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: a gossiper that was going back and forth telling each
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: other what was being said about one another.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was talking shit, gossip and girl, you know
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: they said you ain't going through with your husband. Apparently, girl,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: it was one of them conversations. And shout out to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Jazzy for moving the story along. She did exactly what
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: she was supposed to do as a friend of the show,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: have a conversation like that that build relationships with the
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: people in the cast. I didn't see nothing wrong with it,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: and I actually loved Jazzy on this show, so I
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: didn't see anything wrong with what she did. And to me,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: it ain't even no issue because when Monique asked her
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: about it, she was like, yeah, that's but that's it,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Like there's nothing, there is no issue like that, your
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: question is answered. They just they was able to move
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: on to me, you know what I'm saying. So I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: ain't think nothing was wrong with that. Do it again.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Claudia Roerr thoughts on that shout out to the fifty
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: seven hundred people.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: Hey, go ahead, respect to Jazzy for saying it. Widow
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: Chest keeping the energy the same and not corring. No,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: I didn't say that, and I'm sorry if you're my
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: friend and bitches like lit me.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: I said that if you're my friend and girls are being.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Trying to get this.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: So what happened was this weekend I almost done fights
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: twice this weekend. I had a very had a very
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: ghetto weekend this weekend.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: Where two times I was very in my mouth like
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: I was like I was on I was on some
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: and did what like girls was like.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: Driving me this weekend.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Will were you filming?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: I wasn't filming. This was just in my real life.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: So I'm trying to like in my real life.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: I went out to two events after the Jane Kennedy
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: books line and we went to a spot and it
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: was this girl I didn't want to get from the table.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: She was just like, I ain't from from Atlanta. I said,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: I could fuck were you from? And what's that supposed
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: to mean? What does that mean? And then I was like,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: so I'm trying to get back in my.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 12: End real brown design.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: Yes we love get it. Yes, I had a cuss.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: The bitch out one time that was similar in a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: situation like this where I had looked out for this hapa.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not friends with her anymore.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: I used to put her in a lot, like whatever
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: stuff I can hook her up with, I would. And
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: there was a conversation about me that I had to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: hear what was happening through a third person that wasn't
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: even my girl, So that's worse.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: So No, what.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: Jazzi did to me was right, like, yes, she ain't
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: really thinking about the show in that moment. Well maybe
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: she was, but you're supposed to come back and tell me,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: give me some kind of heads up, egg girl.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: They were talking about you a little bit.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna tell you everything, but I'm gonna give
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: you a heads up so you're not blindsided. Your homegirl's
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: supposed to do that for you. Your girl's supposed to
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: give you the heads up. So I wasn't mad at it.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: I'm sure Monique didn't like it, but at that point,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: if that's my friend, I'm not worried about many worry
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: about my friend.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Just like you told me that somebody was talking about
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: me and your DMS.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, you was like
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: such and such, A saying such and such and we laugh.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: Think Kevin moving, that's what friends do.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: I gotta give you be out there blindsided, never.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: What your ass said, because I know you're watching this
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: ship too. Thank you very much.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: She was in.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: Violence All twenty twenty six.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: I love you, Human Time. I ordered a hat from
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: this influence this girl online. It says villain error. I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: can't wait to wear it. It's happening.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: You gots blue blue.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the whole thing with Jazzy,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Monique and Angel Do you think okay and this this
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: is real?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: One thing I will say, and it's gonna be unpopular,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: and that's okay.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Percent so that Monique was only projecting, right. I believe
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: there could be some projection. But in Monique's defense, I
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: will say this. I do think when it comes to
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: the wag world, that is a very intimate world where
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: it's not like reality stars.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: It's so easy to tell reality girls when you're watching them.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: I would have done this until you're in it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: And when it comes to housewives, let's just talk about
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: them for now. Housewives is like a sorority where we
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: all get what we are going through and only us
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: get it. I do think when it comes to wives
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: and girlfriends of athletes, I do think. Look, I think
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: a Monique's defense, I wouldn't say it was one hundred
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: percent projection. I do believe Monique may have seen similarities
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: based on that, and I'm gonna go and say this.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 8: I.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: See something with Bobby and Angel that although what I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: see I'm not concerned about. Let me start by saying
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: that I think Bob's a great high But I've said
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: this before. I think Bobby is doing all of this
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: for Angel because Angel has sacrificed so much for him.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: And I think Monique, I think what Monique is seeing.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: If I had to like see things through her eyes
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: as a wag, I think Monique is seeing that this
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: woman everything is on her. She's not even allowed. Hey,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Porsche season five, you know what I'm saying. A former wag,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Gotta listen, y'all.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Y'all really gotta understand the wag world.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: When Porscha talked about Cordill and she said, my husband
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: let me go to Vegas, miyall, that is her reality
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: married to a NFL player.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: I think what Monique is seeing Angel.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: I think Monique sees that Angel is doing so much
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: that Angel, well, Angel wants.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: To hang out with them.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: On twelve twelve thirty, but she can't because her husband
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: is not going to agree with that. And I think
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Angel is aware that my husband is sacrificing now for me,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: and I appreciate it, but I can't take advantage of it.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what Monique is seeing to me.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: But Blue, do you.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: See that or do you think Monique is one hundred
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: percent projected?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 8: I think that just because you disagree with someone, I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: mean they're inaccurate, and often it's in hindsight that you
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: realize that they were accurate when you have more distance
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 8: from it. And so I think everybody, this is the
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 8: one time again I'm trying to be fair where I
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 8: think they're both telling the truth as far as they
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 8: know it, right. I think Monique being further from it
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 8: and being on the other side of it and being
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 8: deincentivized from going blind to it is saying things like,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: it's easy to lose yourself as a wag and a mother.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 7: It's easy to become colldependent. It's easy to consent to things.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 8: That are not healthy for you and you don't notice
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: it're not healthy until way later in the game when
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: you've lost yourself entirely.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: Right, I just.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 8: Think that her saying it in front of goons instead
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: of Shug Night and the rest of them.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: Right, you can't do that in front death or records.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: Maybe take Angel to the side.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: The way that Jazzy did and say, hey, friend, I'm
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: gonna tell you off camera because I'm concerned, but I
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 8: don't want to embarrass you, because I recognize that we're
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 8: on one of the top shows in the globe featuring
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: women who look like us, and the ripple effect of
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: me saying it in public might have ramifications that you're
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 8: not ready for. But I'm concerned because I see me
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: in you, and the same way Bobby and my husband
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: were mentoring each other, let me be that for you
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 8: that would have been. So it's the right message with
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: the wrong avenue. And also, to Jazzy's point, I'm sorry,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: but if you're talking crazy about my friend perfect example,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: if somebody was talking crazy about any of the three
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: of you, right, first of all, they're gonna get uncomfortable
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: man sentence, I'm gonna score up a little bit.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: So ooh, let's fix the tone. Friend.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 8: If you have a problem with one of the that's cute.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 8: I'm one of those I goooned up mid conversations. Let's
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: keep it cute, because I'm sitting right to fuck you. Yes,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 8: excuse my French. Second thing is, though, I'm gonna tell
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: my friend because because when it was like well, I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 8: was gonna tell her, yes, but how I already know
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: you're discernment about how it's already off.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: Well, there's a reason for that.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 7: I was already off. I want to tell her the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 7: full ty about how you said it, how it was received,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: the looks of people's faces. You're not going to say
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 7: all of that. I'm going to tell her the rest, and.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 8: By the time she talks to you, she's prepared to
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: know what she's walking into. So I'm one hundred percent
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 8: on Jazzey say as far as telling her friend. And
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 8: I also think that Monique it was fifty percent projection
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: because she was probably a little triggered, because when you
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: peak yourself in somebody else, there is a triggering that's happening.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 8: And also though I think in the moment she was
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 8: just so happy to be in the fray that she
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 8: forgot that you doing it in this way is doing
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: something to Angel.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: That is the opposite of what you claim you want
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 7: to be happening.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: I think she also forgot right. And what we haven't
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: mentioned yet is that Monique don't know Angel. She don't
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: know Angel like that. So her even having insult any
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: sort of anything to say about Angel's marriage and comparing
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: it to hers, that's a very deeply personal.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: Thing for you to be prying to having an opinion on.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: And even though obviously their castmates on this show and
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: they have to interact with one another, it still felt
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: obtuse to the viewers, like, you don't even know her
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: like that to be making That's why we're questioning whether
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: or not she was projecting or not, because she simply
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: shouldn't have asked her that she shouldn't have said shit
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: about what was going on between Angel and her husband
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: off of the limited interactions that she's seen or whatever,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: and been able to concoct that feeling. That's why people
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: thought it was bullshit because it was out of place.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Monique don't know Angel like that. Even if we're playing
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: the game of them being cast members on the show,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: it still didn't make sense because Monique came into the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: season so late, we've never seen her.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: And Angel sit down have a one on one.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: No shit like that so for her opining you know
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying about her personal business like that, like girl, what.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: We we gotta we gotta, we gotta talk about the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: moment She said it though, And that's why I believe
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: she wasn't projecting in this moment when Angel, when all
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: the girls was an Angel backyard after the three guys,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: and I say hi to them, Yes, and.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 7: I'm Angel on that. I'm team Angel in that moment.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 7: I'm team Angel.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: What the thing is this, I'll say this when Monique
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: saw Angel not being able to commit to hanging out
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: with them past midnight because she had to check in
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: with her husband. Now, granted, I agree with Blue maybe
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: that could have been an opportunity for one on one,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: and I agree with Dustin so that they could get.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: To know each other deeper.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: But I think what Monique saw was I see another
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: woman who is unable to enjoy herself because she has
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: to consider her husband babysitting his own children.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 7: Who's friends with my husband? Who's this is the part.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: I think the reason why she's over familiar Dustin is
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 8: because husband's like, you're you know, pillow talk. If your
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: husband is talking to my husband to the point where
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 8: he's a mentor to him, y'all have come up. I
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 8: might not know you, I'm just meeting you, but you'll
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 8: have come up people that.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 8: You have a friend who knows them, and even though
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 8: they've never met you, you feel like when you meet them,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 8: you already know them, Like, oh my god.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 7: I've heard so much about you for so long, I
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 7: finally meet you.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: She even said when she saw Bob and she was like,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 8: I feel like I know you because you and my husband,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 8: you know, we're so close. And so I think because
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: my husband who did it to me is close to
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 8: your husband.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 7: So and that was a mentor. He was teaching him
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: how to go through life.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 8: And I think he has bad advice. I think he's
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 8: an ancient type of dude. So if my ancient dude
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 8: is mentoring your husband, and I'm starting to see things
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 8: that I recognize, I'm getting a flicker of oh God,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: I hope this isn't Brisbane feather.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: That makes perfect sense, and I see exactly what you're saying.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: I just don't feel like Angel is in no situation
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: where she wanted to go with them and Bobby told
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: her no, or she wanted to go with them that night,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: and Bobby told her no.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: In the literal next scene, we see her.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Talking about about it. He like, I mean, if that's
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: what you want to do, you want to go, and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: she was like, no, I don't want to go, and
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: he was like, okay, we don't go.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: She didn't. She didn't say.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: Well, when a person really wants to go but they
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: don't want to disappoint their partner, they answered like this, well,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: I mean I don't have to go, but you know
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: I could just go.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: He answered like this, She said, nah, I don't want
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: to go.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: No. She answered like that because she don't want her
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: husband to think I want to go.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: She I agree with that.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 7: You don't know?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, no, I can tell you like this they want
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: me to go. I mean I don't know, because.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: She she did not want him to think that she
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: wanted to.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Go, because she didn't want to have an argument with him.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: That's how I took it.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: And and she also sorry, but he doesn't want to
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: do this show.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: In my opinion, he's doing this for his wife, so
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: he she probably feels he's She's already pushed it a
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: little bit. He didn't want to go to that event
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: that he said we'll get there, and we'll get there.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: Then you got these hEFS at our house when you know,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: we we have pillow talk every night about how rude
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: this was me and that one.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: She don't want. She didn't want to go with them anyways.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: He was the.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: Escapegoat, like, let me just check with Bobby. She's you know,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: she's pushed the almlup already. I got these heaves at
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: the house after they done. Probably had so many conversations
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: about how much she can't stand each.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: And every one of them.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: I feel like she felt like I do have to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: chuckle Bobby because he's already sick of the ship. He
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: don't want me to do the show anymore. It's not
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: helping me. It's probably hurting our business. And yeah, I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: don't you know when you use your mate or your
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: kids or your pet. Oh, I gotta go feed my cats.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: Now I've been.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: Asked to play some I'm like my cat, I gotta
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: get home my kids. If you want to go, she
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: would have went just like she did the show. She
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: didn't want to go anyways, and Bobby was a great thing. Yeah,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: but I do think I didn't think Monik was malicious either.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: Carlos I did not think she was, because she also
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: was one of the few ones from the other side
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: that was comforting to Angel.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, I'm.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: Ultimate. I don't know, but I just feel like.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: You don't know the people and we talk about that,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean like we don't.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Want to them and engaging with them.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: Were talking about them.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Everyone's relationship with we have to be talking about them.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: But I'm.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: Lives without having to know them. So good as what
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I think if you asked a lot of so all
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: the wives, Okay, if you are a married woman with
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: kids and your husband is the breadwinner, please in the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: comments let us know your thoughts. If you are a
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: married woman where your husband is the breadwinner and y'all
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: have small children, Do y'all think Monique saw glimpses of
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: herself in Angel when Angel could not agree to go
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: past midnight without her husband knowing about it, or do
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: y'all think that Monique was one hundred percent projecting and
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: there's something wrong? And I'll end by saying this, I'm
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: gonna tell you what made me think things differently. I
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: saw Angel watch what Happens Live, and Angel looked stunning
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: by the way.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Gorgeous, looked like a star. Bobby was in the audience,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: and Bobby.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: Was like this the entire time his wife was on stage,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: and my rain drop said, he was watching a game. However,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: my thing is this your your wife being gonna watch
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: what Happens Live is a big.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Moment for her.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: And yes, you're there physically, but are you But are
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: you present?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: And that was the moment for me.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: He he did not look like he wanted to be there,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: and it made me think about what Monique said, and
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: I thought perhaps Monique could be onto something if y'all
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: saw Bobby's behavior.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: I felt bad for Angel in that moment too.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 8: I would say this, we keep on saying she didn't
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: want to go. As a person who's gonna throw myself
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 8: under the bus here, I've been in a codependent relationship,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 8: and I think the question that needs to be asked
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 8: is why she didn't want to go. When you are
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 8: in a co dependent relationship, there are things that you
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: don't want to do because of that relationship that you
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 8: normally would want to do if you weren't.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 7: In that relationship.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 8: And it's almost like you're covering your partner because, to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 8: Carlos's point, the stuff that comes from you being independent
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 8: is such a headache. It's easy to pretend that we
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 8: don't want me to go, rather than he doesn't want.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: Me to go.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 8: So I think that for those of you who are healthy,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 8: this makes no sense. But I have pretended not to
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 8: be excited about things that I normally would have been
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: excited about because there was some man, some tall man,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: with a good something that I wanted to go home to,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 8: and I wasn't thinking clearly.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: So I think Andrew's being a woman right now who
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 7: just had a baby.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: Just remember she just had a baby who has been
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 8: covered by her husband, and she's been eating piped by
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 8: piranhas and Bobby's her safe place.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't blame.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: Her for not wanting to go. It has not been
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: a good time for her.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: Why would she I wouldn't want to be if I
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: could choose between being in my bomb ass house with
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: my attractive husband and my kids in the comfort of
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: my own home.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: Or go to the ship house or wherever that was
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: going to go and hang out with girls. I know
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: y'all don't like me.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: I kind of have a friendship with two of them
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: two and a half, because you really can't call tea
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: is that's not really a real friendship. No, I wouldn't
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: want to go either if I cannot find it out
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: and say, oh, Bobby, my kid, I'm doing that. I
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: did my job, I clocked in. I'm getting minimum money
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: because it's my first season.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 7: I'm not doing all that.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing all that extra stuff. I'm not doing it.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: And if I can blame it.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: On my of course season one, she lucky if she
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: got eighty thousand dollars. Okay, So I'm just saying I'm serious,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: maybe haunted. Okay, I don't know. Okay, let me correct that.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know how much you got paid, but it's
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: not the salaries of the Giselle, the ones who've been
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: there for a long time, so you're there, like, I'm sorry.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: If I'm emostly beat down from these ladies and I'm
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: in my own city.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: I'm going home.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: Care if you think it's because of my husband checked
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: me or whatever. Whatever. I gotta say. I'm staying in
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: my house. I'm not. She don't want to go hang
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: with those she doesn't like.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Them.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: They don't like her. It's very obvious.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: So we got a lot of people in the comments
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: is leaning more towards people saying they.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Believe Monique was projecting. We have sixty two hundred people
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: live with us. Tonight's out, okay, so let us know.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: All right, So as we sort of wrap things up, because.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: I do want to get to be in We.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Kind of touched on this a bit, but.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: I want to get into Giselle hijacking the trip and in.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: That moment, do y'all think?
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna start with Dustin seeing Giselle, who is
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: an OG. She's been on the show since season one.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: This is season ten, so for ten seasons. She pretty
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: much said, I'm hijacking your trip. We're going to the
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: fourth season. Ladies, y'all want to come with me?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Let me know.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Angel tried to say no, which was so sad, but
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Angels just funny to me.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: But she's like, no, there's a schedule.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Your trip.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: You're about a scater girl. But but it's moments like
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: that that I like age. I think that's who she is.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: But Dustin, is this the moment where you think if
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: you allow Jazelle to take over your trip. You have
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: officially lost the plot and there was no point of
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: return with this.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: For me, I had that moment long four score or
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: forty episodes ago. I had that arrived at daddy epiphany
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: a long time ago. I do think that that part
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: was grossly disrespectful. I think that Giselle did that shit
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: because she felt like she could. I ain't never hated
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: nothing more than I than a person who feels like like, Okay,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: I know you're gonna let me do this to you,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: so I'm gonna do it. I hate that that's that is.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: I don't like that. That's punk shit to me. So
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't appreciate that scene. But you know, Angel, she
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: just she wanted to talk about fly fishing and shit
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: and and appreciate Angel has. She loves appreciating stuff, right Angel.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: She likes to take it in and have appreciated. And
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: her whole trick seemed to be built.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: Around shit like that.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: And I think that those women who really just wanted
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: to get drunk and talk shit and laugh, I think
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: that they had had it with the low tones and
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: the muted nature of everything and that this is this.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: I think they were sick of that shit.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: So for me, it wasn't that moment, but it was
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: definitely a moment, and I see why people would say
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: that that was where she lost control.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Did you feel bad for her when she was crying?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely felt bad for her With me I
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: Dustin who had said that she had didn't have my
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: favorite personality on this show, which I don't think is mean.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: Fuck y'all but whatever, you know what I'm saying. But
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: I felt bad for her. I felt bad for her
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: when she was crying. Y'all know, I don't like no
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: ship like that. Making that girl cry that was not
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: cool to me.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: I did not like that. I thought that was mean.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: And I also wanted, where's that girl from the internet
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: that is in the car going stand up?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: Where's that girl at That's who we need, we need,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: that's who needs to mentor Angel, that girl that was.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Saying stand upup, stand up?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's who she needs right there. I didn't like
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: that ship at all.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: I'm blue.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Did you think mad in that moment? Angel lost the plot?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: And did you put bad for her tears?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 7: Oom? You know the boy who cried wolf like at
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: some point the tears are real?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 7: That got so many fake tears. I just which one
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: is it? So one of the I know at some
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: point they were real.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: I'm just trying to map out which ones are real
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 8: and which ones are weaponizing comp tenth.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: Okay, I think these were real.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 8: Because I would have cried at that point just because
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 8: I want I don't want to go to jail for
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 8: beating up Gazelle. So I just feel like this is
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 8: gonna be ironic. Gizelle has gotten so mean.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to come to Angels defense.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: I think we're there.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 8: I think we're at the point where Angel kind of
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 8: co created this mess. But Gizelle is being so nasty
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 8: in such an exaggerated way that no other human being
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 8: deserves to be treated like that on camera or be
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 8: off camera that I feel like, if this continues, I'm
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 8: gonna have to come to Angels defense because now, Gizelle,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 8: you're being nasty in a way that supersedes the show.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 7: We could have had a fun time.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 8: I think, honestly, the most honest moment where I felt
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 8: like I get it was Wendy saying, why can't you
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 8: just own it so we have fun. I think the
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 8: rest of the girls feel like, why can't you stand
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 8: up so we can have fun. Giselle's out for blood,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 8: and I think that is something that if it's not checked,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna be curious to see how the reunion works out,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 8: because after all of this happened, guys, Angel still after
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 8: the entire season was over, said she'd come back. So
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 8: whatever it is, it clearly wasn't bad enough for her
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: to sit down or stand up. Well, she's just kind
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: of levitating at this point. I don't know what she's doing.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 8: She's laying down, maybe she's meditating.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your face.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: After this season, she shouldn't want to come back unless
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: she likes abuse and likes like or it has something
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: that is just I I really want to prove this.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: When when I interviewed her, it was like, I'm not
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: going to get run off by these girls, And I
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: think that's the wrong focus. You're a new mom, you're
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: a wife, you have this fabulous life in Colorado. This
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: should not be your priority, this mediocre paying job, because
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: it's not again, it's not good the first year, y'all.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: For the girls that have the biggest and highest paid
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: now got paid trash money calls.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm right.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: The first season like no one got good money the
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: first year, So I'm saying, you're doing all this for
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: what You're a round people that don't like you, and
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: you don't.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: You seem unhappy.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: Dazelle, Yes, was very mean to her in this episode,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: but Gazelle's beuld mean this whole season.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: Think about not putting Stacy's.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: Name, I don't know, I don't know you like that,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: like leaving her off of the gift bags.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: And She's been doing with this all season, so I'm
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: not shocked.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: I do think she had a little bit of justification
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: because that the accommodations, But I do get the back
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: and forth, like you know, it's cause and effect with them, okay,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: but like to say she wants to go back and
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: like are you okay?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 7: Actually?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: Are you okay?
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: Like what do you do you think this show, being
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: a house shape of Potomac is going to validate you
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: or somehow fix something that's missing in your life.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: Maybe, or you know, like I showed them, I won
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: Why why do you care? If women treated me like this, whether.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: I contribute to it or not, I would not want
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: to work with them. It'd be mentally exhausting. We've all
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: probably worked on stuff I know I have worked on
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: stuff where at the end of it, you're like, I never.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: Want to see those people again.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: That hurt my heart, right, And I think she should
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: be in that place and she's not. She needs some
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: help because why would you want to even be around
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: like you're trying too hard to prove something that people
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: don't like you.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: They don't like you, they despise you.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: Even the people that are Yeah, I mean that, I
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: will say. And then also as a viewer, if you
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: take the humanity and feeling for someone, it does make
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: it a good episode.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: It was entertaining, right, like we were talking about it,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: But personally it seems like someone getting jumped. Yeah, I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: feel like someone getting jumped and everyone's sitting around.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: Even your friends.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: Ain't jumping in and grabbing nobody's hair. They're just sitting
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: there chilling.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think this is for her.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: It's it's it was fun to kekey about her before,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: but it's it's kind of not anymore.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, this episode was sad to see how
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: things unfortunately went for her. I'll I'll end by saying
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: this to the Potomac ladies.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Look, it's a great season. I have enjoyed.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Everything tends across the board, right, Hey, quads, the great season,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: the great season. I will say this though, I do
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: think every season, everybody, because this is what I do
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: my own shows.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: That's producer.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: It's a moment of reflection, like, Okay, we'll work what
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: didn't work, and as you venture off into your next season.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: What I would want for the girls.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: Of Potomac, whether or not Angel comes back, we'll see,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: But I what I would want is, let's let's stop
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: this sort of.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Like, let's get the new girl to see if she
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: could earn her stripes. You know, it's not working anymore.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: And you guys should not be.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Subjected to being called bullies if your intention is to
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: make good television, right. And that's why when it comes
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: to the other girls, I want you guys to get
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: back to just coming in and being yourself.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: It was hard for me to watch, you know, everybody
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: callow on her.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Because I just don't think in any of the circumstance
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: everybody would have done that. And and I want them
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: to get back to like real personal story and and
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: really getting to know each other. You know, the reason
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: why we all love Potomac is what Claudia said, you
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: girls clock in.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: And one thing about the Potomac girls, they are they
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: have an amazing work ethic. They they those girls work.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: They remind me of the bells. Those girls, the Potomac
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: ladies work.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: But one thing about the bells, I'm bell collective and
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't the time I'm wrong. Ain't nobody trying to be Marie.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: No one wants to be Latitia. No one wants to
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: be Marie. Nobody wants to.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: Be LaTrece right for sure her own lane.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: And those those girls, let them.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: Be them like they know Marigo, kick get the dog.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 7: And you know, but.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 6: Get you waight up.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Off of you. I want you girls to let Gazelle
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: be Jazelle. And the beauty of the rest of y'all
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: is the fact that all of you girls.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Have something special, unique and lean into that and and
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: and you'll see a much more embrace when it comes
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: to new girls. And this is my way of saying,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing Charisse and Ashley.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Have a conversation next season because that's.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: What I want to see.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: I want to see.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Charise and Giselle and Monique and Ashley have a ponderosa
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: like let's let's let's get the girls.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: She's gonna cook for real, for real.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: And Karen because Charis was talking about her. Karen in
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: there too, Yeah, yar too.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Karen too because she's.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 8: Son was on What would Happened Lives and he says
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 8: that he has no comment on Ashley Darby.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 7: You just want to put that out.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: I thought he handled himself very well too.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: I thought he was very well spoken and he was
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: going but very respectful that me and his mama and
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: them did a good job of him shouting up Alice
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: for her son. I want to say one thing, though,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: You see how God works the very weak, the very
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: the very weak, the very episode the very week that
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: that episode air where Giselle was so like, flagrantly disrespectful
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: to Angel that same week, that same night, right after that,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: she got embarrassed on live television, and watch What Happens
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: Live by quiet she did.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 6: So you get some of that kind of thing. You
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: That ship is real and that shit works that same
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: what are the odds the very episode following your episode
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: where you show your ass and low key. I ain't
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: gonna say bully because that wasn't bully and they just
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: was all on her. But you know, the same week
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: that that happens, you get embarrassed by quiet on live television.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: The shadiness of it together that week is like they're
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: like smart booking to get the boat on that. I
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: think all this like we went from being irritated, like
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: bored with Angel in the beginning to her being.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: Talked about the most. Sometimes it's stuff.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: Stuff backfires and ends up making a person bigger than
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: they were initially intended to be. Because it's now she's
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: probably gonna At one point I thought, oh, they're not
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: going to bring it back, but now she is, probably because.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: I just think we're talking about her because that's what happened.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's gonna be like a gain per
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: se from like the conversations that we've been having surrounding her,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: because they've been circumstantial, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: It's not like we've been talking.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: About her because we because she's been unforgettable in that way.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: And so I'm never gonna have a hey for nobody
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: to get fired. You know, I don't do that. But
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: I also don't think that she's going to see like
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: an uptick in popularity amongst the fans because she's been
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: the subject of a lot of conversations lately because of
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: what the episodes have focused on. It's literally that's the
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: only reason I think we've been talking about her recently.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: So I'm like, you feel me.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to really translate into like
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: a game for her of any sort.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know, because we start off with her being
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: a non factor. Then she gets four episodes, right, they
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: turn this around, made this like the Stacey I mean
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: the Angel Show.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: We punched, but they didn't know. We're right, that's right, right, Blue.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: It's not in a way where like she's the focus.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: We're just talking about people were disrespectful to her. Y're
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: talking about her in.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: Relation to what the actions that others have had around her,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: not actually that she's taken You feel me.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: I get what you're saying.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: I'm just I feel like she her performance should not
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: get as much attention as it is getting. Yeah, and
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: for people that are just watching TV, all they hear
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: about is Angel.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: We are not talking about anybody else but Angel, really,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: and yes, it's not in a good way. We'll see
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: what happens.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: You'll own it.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 8: If Angel owns it and takes one of these advice, ironically,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 8: she could turn this around.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 7: I just don't. I'm not holding my breath for that
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 7: to happen because I've never seen her own anything.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see, we'll see. So next week the ladies. Unfortunately,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: more bad things happen.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: We don't get it again.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: Damn yes, hold on to your cowboy hats. Reality with
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced
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  Speaker 2: by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with.
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  Speaker 1: The Lack of Effect Network.
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  Speaker 2: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
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  Speaker 2: the Carlos King Underscore