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"The Body Keeps The Score" Framework With Somatic Coach Brooke Powers · Finding New Waters

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As a somatic coach, I work with people to help regulate their
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nervous system. And you know, a nervous system
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is either regulated or dysregulated.
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And when you're dysregulated, that can look like being high
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anxiety or depressed. And there's different nuances in
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there as well. But I help people understand
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where they're at in their system so that they can learn to shift
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up into ventral, which is the goal.
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You know, that connected regulated state where we're
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creative and we're thriving. Our folks call it the flow.
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All right. Welcome back everybody to
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another episode of Finding New Waters.
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My name is Bea Reeves. I'm the Director of Business
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Development here at New Waters Recovery in Raleigh, sitting
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here with our CEO, Justin McClendon and our very special
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guest today in person, Brooke Powers with Wellness Assist in
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Wake Forest. Welcome, Brooke.
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Thank you so much, B Justin, It's a pleasure to be here.
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Thank you. We appreciate you coming on.
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It's I'm delighted to be here. We're glad to have you.
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So I little quick history, I met Brooke at a work dinner maybe
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less than two weeks ago and then she came in and visited us at
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New Waters and and she just what she does is very interesting.
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So we just said, you know what, why don't we just have her on in
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for the podcast? So I'm not going to attempt to
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tell anybody what you do. So tell us, what do?
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You do. I'm a somatic coach.
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I utilize Vessel Vanderkolk's book The Body Keeps the Score to
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kind of create a framework for clients.
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So Oh my. Gosh.
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Yeah, I love that book. It's I'll talk about it in a
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moment, but I really changed my life in such a good way.
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So I'm an as a somatic coach, I work with people to help
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regulate their nervous system. And you know, a nervous system
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is either regulated or dysregulated.
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And when you're dysregulated, that can look like being high
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anxiety or depressed. And there's different nuances in
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there as well. But I help people understand
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where they're at in their system so that they can learn to shift
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up into ventral, which is the goal.
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You know, that connected regulated state where we're
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creative and we're thriving or folks called the flow.
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So yeah, so I have a four part framework that I work and walk
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clients through. Got a question, when someone is
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dysregulated, clinically dysregulated, does that mean
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nervous system wise or are there other definitions you can answer
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that too probably. Yeah.
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So I I can speak from the nervous system standpoint as a
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coach. I'm actually, I'm not a
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therapist. So but when it comes to nervous
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system and being dysregulated, most of my clients come in
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because they've been highly anxious for a really long time
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and they're stuck. And a lot of times when people
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are stuck, they're in a dysregulated place that I call
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Freeze, which for those of you that are driving, please don't
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do this. But for those of you who are
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listening or you're in the room, if you're not familiar with
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Freeze, it's equal parts activation and shut down.
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So it kind of looks like this if you were to put your hands
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almost in like a prayer position.
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And if you guys want to join me, you're very welcome to.
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It's activation and dysregulation and your palms and
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your fingers are pressing against each other as hard as
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they can. And for those of you who can
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see, you know, if you're pressing for a long time,
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doesn't take me long. I start to shake.
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It's exhausting to be in freeze. And that's where I see a lot of
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my clients and they come to me because they're just so sick and
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tired of being sick and tired and they want to have something
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different. And so I help people find
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freedom in their system by getting out of freeze.
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That's. Amazing.
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And do would you mind telling us, So what does that look like,
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right. So how do you help those
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individuals go from that kind of Free State to finding relief
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from that? Yeah.
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So I teach 35 different resources.
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So we have our coping mechanisms, right, Our defaults,
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which is maybe some of your listeners are familiar with
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reaching for the drink, reaching for the cigarette, reaching for
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the phone to shop. There's nothing bundt cake to
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eat. You know, whatever coping
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mechanism it is that helps us feel better in the moment,
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that's maybe what we saw growing up and that's what we reach for.
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A resource is something different.
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It's doing something healthy to help regulate our system.
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So for those of you who are interested, I could do a really
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quick one and show you guys. So Doctor Andrew Huberman has
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something called the Huberman breath.
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You may or may not be familiar with it, but what it looks like
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is inhale through the nose and then a little extra and then
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have a very, very long exhale through the mouth, through purse
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lips. So it kind of goes like this.
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And we're almost pinching in our diaphragm to get that full
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exhale. Now, if there's a tiger in the
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room, you are not going to exhale because you are needing
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to run, right? Well, we get stuck in this
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chronic activation and it's so stressful on our body.
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But you do that Huberman breath three times, you're going to
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feel a little a little lighter in the shoulders, a little
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distance between the earlobes and the shoulders, a little
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calmer. And I suggest the clients you
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know to do that at least three times before you go to bed at
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night. If you wake a night with a start
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and there's no reason to be startled, go ahead and do it
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again because it's going to help you relax and hopefully drift
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back to sleep. So what happens though is we
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pick up our caregiver, our primary caregivers nervous
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system state, and that becomes our home state.
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So if mom was anxious and she was our caretaker most of the
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time, well, we're going to start life anxious.
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That's just, that's just what's going to happen.
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Maybe dad was depressed. Maybe when we're get older,
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especially if we're a boy, you know, we're going to maybe spend
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more time with dad and we can pick up more of that depressive
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state. So you do what you know and
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coaching as you know as a way to learn something different and do
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something different. So that's what I teach them.
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When you said the people, you see people every day who are
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sick and tired of being sick and tired, I probably heard that
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phrase before I found my way into treatment and recovery.
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But that was one of the first things I heard that I really
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latched onto. And it, you know, it can mean
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for substance use, for anxiety, for whatever.
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But I just remember thinking, Oh my God that's exactly how I felt
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for so long and never had the vocabulary for it.
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Yeah, our state of our nervous system tells our story.
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So if we are anxious, we're scanning the world for danger.
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And we're that's what, how we're wired.
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You know, we're just constantly looking for danger and that's
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exhausting. So even in this instance, I have
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a few clients that are in abusive marriages, you know,
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when you're in a domestic abuse situation and they have to
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choose when they get out, it's very, very difficult to leave
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something that you've been in for 30-40 years.
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I mean, it's difficult regardless, but they need to
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find moments of safety and create those almost as anchors
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so that they can regulate their system.
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I mean, so many of these clients have autoimmune diseases, not
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just one or two, like several from always being stressed and
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anxious. And you know, that can kill.
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Stress kills. So really finding times when we
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are safe and leaning into safety and for those folks that are
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relatively safe and still find themselves anxious and these
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tools just are such a game changer because you have to work
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them like a muscle though, like start your day with them.
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I have clients have a copy of the ventral ladder and they have
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it posted in their bathroom. So every time they use the
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bathroom they're doing, they're asking themselves, where am I in
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my system? Am I feeling withdrawn,
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hopeless? OK, then I need to get some
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energy into my system. I'm going to step outside.
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I'm going to Orient towards the sun, take a couple quick breaths
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just to bring some energy in. OK, Am I anxious?
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If you don't know your state, how do you elevate it?
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You know, how do you get out of the funk or the cycle that
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you're in if you don't know where you're at?
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Yeah. And I would, I would assume just
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as you said, that's going to be a big part of it because the
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exact point you just made is I think most people tend to kind
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of just walk through life not really mindful of where they
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are, what they feel or you know, what's causing those things.
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So I can I can see where that would be a a big, a big point to
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be able to learn or just become more familiar with like where
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you at on that ladder so that you could effect some change,
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right? Yeah, and and again, we we do
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what we know, you know, our brain takes a lot of our energy
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and it doesn't want new, even if new is better.
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So it's really to the point where you're like, I am tired of
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this. I'm tired of feeling this way is
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when people typically change or after a traumatic event because
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I believe in post traumatic growth in a big way and that a
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big shift in life can really set somebody and go, whoa, you know,
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a major health scare, heart problem, whoa, I can't be living
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with this level of stress anymore.
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I need to change. And that's, you know, an amazing
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time to embrace some new tools to change your story.
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Will you tell her audience what is the ventral ladder?
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Yeah, So Deb Dana is the author of the Poly vagal theory.
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I believe she was the one who coined the ventral ladder.
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So it's really a picture of a ladder.
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The top rungs are the ventral part where we're calm and
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peaceful and connected and we might think the thoughts like,
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everything's going well in the world.
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Gosh, the world's my oyster. You know, it's just that sweet
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spot where you're really enjoying the people around you.
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And then we get down into sympathetic.
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So sympathetic is the fight flight, freeze.
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People say fawn to sympathetic could be like, this person's
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just driving me nuts right now. An example, your partner brings
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you or goes to grocery shopping and comes back with a diet
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doctor Pepper and you've been busting it on a project all day
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and you're stuck and you're irritated and he hands you a
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diet doctor pepper and you're like, what the heck?
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You think I'm fat? Like what?
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Like now you're same partners, same situation, exact same
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situation, but you're ventral, you're calm, like you just
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finished your project. Your family's so good about
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yourself. Hands you diet Doctor Prepper.
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Oh my gosh, that was so thoughtful.
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You know, he remembered that I'm cutting carbs right now and like
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we don't have anything in the house.
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This is so nice like I just I'm so loved same situation like
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totally different reactions based on where you are in your
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system. I already mentioned freeze early
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on and then there's dorsal. So this is like the bottom of
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the ladder. This sounds like nobody gets me.
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Everything is hopeless. I don't, I can't even like I'm
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just, I'm over it, you know, it's like the bear hibernating.
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Like, it's just so, you know, our brains are amazing and we
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need all of those different parts to keep us alive because
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sometimes life gets really, really hard and we need to be
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taken out of the situation. You know, we get in a car
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accident and the car's flipping over and over and over again,
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and we're inside of it. Well, some of us will
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dissociate. We won't even remember the pain
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and the the flipping because our brain just takes us out of it.
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It's like, whoa, this is too much.
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I got to get out of here. Other people can stay present
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through some of that, but some of us will disassociate.
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The challenge is if we had a lot of trauma in our life, we can
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disassociate a lot. And we are like a family on the
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corner of our lives and our kids are growing up and things are
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happening all around us and we're not present.
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We're there, but not present. And that's where I found myself
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at the end of my marriage to my abuser.
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And it wasn't until I read Vessel Vanderkolk's book and I
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was like, I like, this is me right now.
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And I heard about ice bathing. And tell you what, that ice
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bath, there's no denying your body when you're in the ice
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bath. It is like all of a sudden body,
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mind, soul, they are online, they are present.
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And I'm like, there you are, Brooke.
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I've missed you. You've been gone for so long.
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And that was what really got me back in my body because I was
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numb. I was numb from the waist up,
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just like to the touch numb. And and the ice water just got
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me back on and, and now I coach people how to be OK in the
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discomfort of the ice water. That's amazing.
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Yeah. So it's one of those tools that
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we can use further on when we're building resilience as we're
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working together. So the ice ice baths is another
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tool that that you kind of use. What are some breath ice bath?
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What are some other ways that, you know, you may help people
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not only with the anxiety, but I'm, I'm really hearing you talk
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about this kind of like dissociation and like, you know,
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the idea of like we're just not present in our body.
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What? What else kind of helps with
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that? Yeah.
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So for starters, I teach on the 35 different resources and I I
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call that part of my framework acclimate.
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Like we are acclimating to the resources, we're acclimating to
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each other. We're we're building some goals.
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I mean, a lot of people come in because they're just tired of,
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of where they're at. But you know, as they're getting
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more resilient, as they're climbing their ladder, they're
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looking at their life and going, you know, I think I'd like, I
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think maybe I'm ready for something different.
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Like I'm ready to, you know, build and find out what my
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purpose is. So then we get into resilience
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building after they've got some, oh, the word traction with the
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resources and they're feeling better.
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Like many clients will have panic attacks when they're
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seeing me. Once they've gotten those panic
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attacks maybe to 1:00 every four months instead of every day
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either, they're ready to build some more resilience.
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So then we incorporate some modalities like vibration plate
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to bring energy into the body that also is great for your
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lymph system. So I like to do vibration plate
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before I have them get into the sauna.
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So in my practice, I have a red light infrared sauna, should say
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infrared sauna with red light panels.
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So we'll actually do sessions in the sauna with literally turning
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up the heat. But what I find is your body can
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handle more stress, in this instance, heat.
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You're also starting to handle more stress in your
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relationships and being more present when things are just
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uncomfortable. So it's being able to stay
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present when things are uncomfortable.
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So we'll physically get a little uncomfortable, but the clients
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in control, we go at their speed, step out, take a break.
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We regulate with a resource before we go do something hard
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and we really regulate again. So we're titrating between
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regulation and dysregulation. Very.
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Cool, yeah. I got a question for you about
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when you should the ice bath sort of shocks you into feeling
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physical and being present. Was it something that you were
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when you went into that ice bath?
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Was it, I've heard that this might help.
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I'm going to try it. Or were you just kind of doing
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it because people it's sort of a thing and you wreck?
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Oh my God, that just changed my life.
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Yeah, so I heard about it and then my girlfriend and I, we
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were both separated and she and I went to Grove Park in
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Asheville. Not put a plug for them, but Oh
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my gosh, that place is gorgeous. And she was already doing ice
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baths and she, she basically peer pressured me into the ice
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bath. I'm so glad you did.
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Thank you. But yeah, I went into the ice
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bath. Hated it because I hate being
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cold. I hate being uncomfortable.
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Like my life was pretty uncomfortable.
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So to add on comfort or like add that to my life, you know that
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why? Why would you do that?
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But getting the ice water was like, whoa, OK.
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And then at the Grove Park Inn, they have a hot tub right next
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to it so I can get in the hot tub and she's like, go now go
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get in the ice again. And I went back and forth 6
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times and I was like, holy cow. I feel like Wonder Woman.
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Like I feel empowered and strong and amazing.
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And I thought to myself, I want this available at my home for my
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kids and myself, but also for clients.
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And so I have a hot tub and an ice bath right next to each
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other. That's awesome.
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Yeah. That's really cool.
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And we've talked about The Body Keeps the Score at the beginning
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and that that title, that book gets talked about a lot.
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And I never want to assume people listening know anything
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we're talking about. Will you give us a little bit of
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a, you know who, when did that book come out?
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What is it and kind of how it was so inspirational for you?
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Oh man. Well, actually I have the book
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over there. I'm not sure when it came out,
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but I think it's been around for, I would say at least five.
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I know for at least five years. And I think what got me in it
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was learning about PTSD, post traumatic stress disorder.
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I say that right, and complex PTSD and just the loop that you
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get and, and that scanning of your environment all the time
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and being hyper vigilant. So for me, that really stuck.
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And then ways to try to get out of the loops and also knowing
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that our body is is storing the trauma and so really working
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with the body to try to get out of it because the brain's job is
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it is to keep keep us alive. It's not, I say it's not to keep
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us happy, it's to keep us alive. And so we need to show our body
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that we're safe so that our brain can like rest into safety.
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But and it's, you know, our body is non verbal.
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So. Doing orienting, which is like
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looking around and and scanning your your area out of a place of
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like safety and it it shows your body that you're safe.
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Yeah, I don't know if I. No, you did.
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I mean, I guess the thesis is things that have happened to us
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present themselves through physical or through the nervous
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system over time. And it can kind of happen at any
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time in life. These things can sort of, yeah.
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And I would say like our brains are time travelers, right?
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So if something we had trauma in our past, I don't know anybody
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who hasn't had little T trauma or big T trauma in their life.
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And in a moment, we can be back to that minute.
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We can be back to that 15 year old who bombed precalc and we go
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to our teacher for help and it's after hours and our teacher
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starts rubbing her back and massaging her neck and making
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suggestive comments. That's our, our time of that's
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our, our data on oh, I'm stuck and I'm failing.
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I'm going to go for help. And now this person is trying to
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abuse me. So later on as an adult and I'm
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stuck with something at work. I'm not going to ask anybody
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because it's not safe because this happened when I was a kid.
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And here you can hear the dysregulation, right?
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So our minds will travel like that.
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And what we really need to do, and I think I talked about this
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the other day at the tour is, is this parts work?
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Like we're we're re parenting the younger part that was abused
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or taken advantage of or something wrong didn't happen.
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And giving that part a voice to say, yeah, that was wrong, that
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that sucked, It was horrible. And being almost like an
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advocate for our younger selves to go, OK, yeah, that wasn't
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right. And like, you know, giving our
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younger selves proof that we're in like we're capable and
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competent and in charge. So one of the exercises I like
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to do with folks, especially around things like that, is it's
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called a SIFT. It's leaning into a memory with
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the sensation of the memory, the image of the memory, the
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feelings of the memory, and the thought of a memory of maybe the
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opposite of what we experienced as a child where we did have a
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voice and we were competent, we were capable.
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So that we can be that adult self and go back into that
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memory and show our younger selves that that was that was
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horrible and that that happened. That's not what's happening
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today because I got you. And that's kind of a difficult
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concept to grasp. Tim Fletcher does a much better
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job of this. He's got a YouTube channel and
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brilliant guy who works with a lot of clients.
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I've had addiction and helping them re parent their younger
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selves so it's. Very powerful.
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Really like his resources. Do you see a lot of people who
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have addiction issues with you? Not a ton, maybe 1/4 of the
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folks so far, yeah. And so in my role, I am more of
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an encourager around that. So really emphasizing, you know,
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doing the resource instead of a coping mechanism before you do
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your coping mechanism. So hey, you know, I'm not
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telling you to not drink. I'm just saying, hey, why don't
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we try to do a regulating resource before we have that
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first glass of wine and then after the first glass, like
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let's try another regulating resource because maybe it's then
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you're not feeling the need to reach for the second glass
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because you know, you've calmed yourself down.
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And I give other tools like drink chamomile tea all day.
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Like, it makes a big difference. Sure.
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Yeah, just, you know, in this the I think is Gabbermate who is
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credited for saying that trauma is the real gateway drug.
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And I believe that whether it's little T or big T to just we're
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all I'll say we, I'll say we and that the addiction alcoholism
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department, drinking adder over something, you know, it's just a
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symptom. The the drinking and the drugs
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of over something, whether it's, you know, something trivial or
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what. But what we think of as being a
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big deal. And that's why I was just asking
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about the, you know, the crossover between people you're
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seeing with autoimmune due to stress, but also with addiction.
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And Brick, I would assume even if it's like you said, maybe you
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know, a quarter, but I would imagine the larger majority of
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individuals maybe if it's not an addiction, there's still some
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maladaptive method of coping that they're, you know, reaching
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for consciously or unconsciously, I guess, right?
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I mean, I think a lot of people don't realize the impact their
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childhood and their primary caregivers have on their outlook
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of the world. And I mean, I said it before,
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but like you do what you know, and in relationships, we have
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our parents or our our mom and her boyfriend of the week to
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look at as far as how that dynamic flows.
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Well, if that didn't look good, you know, you're not judging
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that as a kid, you might now as an adult go in.
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That was a really messed up way to grow up as far as you know,
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not having a male role model or several male role models.
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That's not my my story, by the way, Just make that in case mom
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and dad see this. But, but if my parents were
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perfectly imperfect, So, but that kind, that plays a huge
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role. I mean, I, I can say this, my
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mom and dad and I've talked about that, but like my dad
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with, with withdraw from conflict.
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And my mom was critical. She's criticizing, criticizing
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dad withdraws. So as an adult, what do I do?
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Well, I'm kind of a overachiever.
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So I do both. You know, I get in conflict, I
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might be critical and then I'll withdraw.
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So we do what we know until we learn a different way.
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And I just wish, I wish we could teach kids in school these
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regulating resources because they know how to do it out the
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get you'll see them get frustrated on the playground and
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they'll get really angry and be like, you know, and they they
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make their fists and, and they're letting that aggression
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out. But then I shame them because it
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looks weird. And yet it's such a great way to
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like, let that anger out without saying something hurtful to
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somebody or worse or not worse. Both of them are bad.
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But punching or hitting somebody so you know.
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Got a question for you? The word, the cortisol, hear
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about that all the time regulating cortisol.
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And you know, it's something I probably don't even think I knew
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that word until about almost eight years ago probably.
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And what, what, what, what, what is it?
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And what do we do people want? Because I've heard that if you
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have too much, it's bad. Too little as bad as it.
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What are we looking for here? Yeah, I wish I knew more about
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that. I just, I mean, I know stress
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wise, high levels of cortisol just make you just regulated.
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So, but as far as like lowering it, other than, you know, taking
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those peaceful walks and enjoying nature and eating good
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amounts of protein throughout the day and making sure you're
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hydrated, the correlation between dehydration and anxiety,
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I think catches people a lot by surprise.
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But if you're dehydrated, your body is screaming like, I'm not
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safe because it needs liquid. So I mean, just helping people
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understand like, you need hydration.
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Oh my gosh. And sleep, we have such a like,
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I feel like a sleep crisis in our nation because screens are
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just so much fun. But you really need at least an
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hour if you really love yourself, two hours of no
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screens before you go to bed at night just to like wind down.
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And I have teenagers, so this is like on repeat at my house.
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I'm like, we prioritize sleep. We prioritize sleep and we're
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taking a good supplement. Almost all of us are short on
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magnesium, so I think it's like magnesium glutamate.
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I'm not sure if I said the other part right, but doing that
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before you go to bed and that can help, especially for women
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who are perimenopause and menopause, like sleep through
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the night and not have that in the middle of the night wake.
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But again, I, I spoke to that too in the middle of the night
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wake. If you can do those stress
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relieving breaths, the Huberman breath, that can really help you
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roll over and go back to sleep soon.
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I would think with cortisol, because I mean, they refer to
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cortisol is like the stress hormone.
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And I would assume all the things that you're talking about
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would, you know, essentially have a positive impact on, on
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cortisol levels. And I think, you know, my
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understanding of it is essentially the more stress and
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anxious that you are, the higher cortisol levels are going to be,
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the higher cortisol levels are. It affects all the things you're
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talking about, right? I mean, our physical health, our
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sleep quality, you know, makes us retain, retain weight.
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I mean, it does so many things that are bad for us.
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I would assume what you're doing, all the things that
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you're doing in coaching, are getting right at that source and
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helping people to be able to reduce that, which is amazing.
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I'm for sure in the regulating part of my framework now,
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building resilience, how do you build resilience?
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You stress the system so you know, but it's the tolerable
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stress, which when folks usually come to me, they, they have too
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much intolerable stress. So we're, we're building our
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toolbox with those 35 resources to tolerate the everyday stress.
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And then, you know, when it's time, you know, we'll build in
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the modalities to add on a little stress.
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We're going to back off, add in, back off.
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And we're actually increasing our bagel tone, our ability to
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go from distress to regulation. How does somebody find you?
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And then how do they, how long are they typically with you?
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And like how often are you seeing them?
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Like how does your practice work?
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Basically the logistics. Oh, thank you.
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So you can find me Somatic coaching n-c.com.
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Somatic SOMATIC coaching n-c.com.
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I'm also an Instagram. Barely be your Oasis is the
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Instagram handle and that's how you can find me.
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I my framework is a four part framework.
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We always start with nervous system work.
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You may be finding me because of my modalities that I do and you
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want to have a great experience with cold plunging.
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I'm still, we're still going to start with your nervous system
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because we want to make sure you're generally in a good place
32:22
before we stretch your system with going into the cold.
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So first part is acclimate and we're teaching those 35
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different tools for nervous system regulation.
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And the second part is incorporate where we're
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incorporating different modalities, physical modalities
32:39
so you can titrate between regulation dysregulation at your
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pace. And the third part is
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rediscover. A lot of folks I've worked with
32:50
in the past come out of domestic abuse.
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So rediscovering who they are, what their purposes, what their
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core values are. So they really have a guide map
33:01
for their life and kind of get an idea of what their lane is
33:05
and why they're here. And then the last part is to
33:09
embody, and that's really to step forward in the work.
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Some folks will come to me. I also run a nonprofit so help
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executive directors start their nonprofit and scale up and also
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help people start LLC's. So I have 4 different parts and
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and some folks will try to come in for the last part, but we're
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always going to start with regulation because our state
33:34
will actually get us stuck to where even career wise where we
33:39
don't feel safe enough to take the next step in life.
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And that's our nervous system going no, no, no, it's not safe,
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you know. So we got to work through all of
33:49
our parts and get our youngest part on board to take this next
33:54
step. Otherwise this 8 year old might
33:56
be showing up inside of us going, no, like I'll get made
33:59
fun of, you know, when you're like, oh OK, well we might need
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to, you know, work backwards a little bit before we can take
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the next step forward. So that is how my framework
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works and how you to find me somatic coaching n-c.com.
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Awesome. Well, this has been amazing.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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Thank. You so much for being here.
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Thank you so much for having me. Thank you, Justin.
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Thank you, Pete. If you liked what you heard
34:26
today or just want to know more, give us a call on 9196708119 or
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visit us at newwatersrecovery.com.
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