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There's No Escaping 'The Room' · Pop Culture Junkie®

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  Hello everyone and welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie podcast. I am Nicole here with my fellow junkie.
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  -Shauna. -And so we know that we usually go over and celebrate good movies, good things that we're watching and stuff,
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  but today we're actually going to do a little 180 and talk about one of the worst movies that we have probably seen,
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  that we actually just seen together and it was my first time seeing this movie so it was a great experience,
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  which I'll get into, but Shana and I recently seen the room with Greg Sestero and it was created and directed by Tommy Wiseau.
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  This was my third time seeing The Room. I don't know why there's no reason to see this movie three times.
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  The first time I watched it with my husband because it was known as the worst movie of all time.
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  Obviously, if something has that title, you have to watch it. Then the second time I saw it was at a showing with Greg Sistero there.
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  He's one of the actors in the film and it was for Pop Culture Junkie and I got to interview Greg Sestero.
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  Anybody listening, go back and listen to my interview with him. It was really good.
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  I was really excited that you got to go this time, Nicole, and experience the room.
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  It's very different from any other movie that you would go see in the theater, for sure.
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  Going into it, so I told you this movie is going to be terrible.
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  That's kind of the gist of it. Greg Sestero leans into knowing that it's a bad movie.
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  And you leaned over and asks me, he knows this is going to be bad, right?
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  It's like, yes.
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  Yes, he knows it's going to be bad.
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  He doesn't go into this thinking, they're all going to love this.
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  But was it as bad as you thought it was going to be?
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  I don't think so. I think again, the experience of being in the theater made it better than what I was
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  expecting. I think if being in the movie theater with others, if I was alone watching it at home,
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  I didn't have that experience, I would have been definitely worse. But I think the experience just
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  made it good for me. Honestly, like the people surrounding us, the whole environment, it was just
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  so fun. And I was laughing the entire time. So I definitely think being in the theater with the
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  others who actually knew what was going on made it a lot more better for me than I was expecting.
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  Yeah, it's definitely one of those movies where people know the lines. They have little chance
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  that they go in with. And we all three plastic spoons across the room with a couple hitting a
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  cold in the heads. That was awesome. Yeah, shout out to majestic theater in Arizona. This one was the
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  Gilbert location. So the junkies go there a lot and we love it there. But yeah, it's definitely
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  cool to see everybody chanting and knowing everything. And what was your, gosh, I don't know favorite is
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  the right word here. But what was your favorite part of the movie? I'm trying to think, I think it was
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  when Mark and Johnny were playing football and all your best friends, best friends. I love that part.
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  And I also liked the ending. Well, I guess it wasn't in the movie, but it was someone saying it out loud,
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  I think the very end spoiler alert for the movie. It was for the room. When Johnny dies and someone was
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  like, Oh, who's going to pay your college tuition now? I died. I thought that was hilarious. Who's going to pay
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  Dini's tuition? Oh, my god. Dini is the most, he's the most nonsensical character. He's this like
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  how old is he supposed to be? In some clips, he's a teenager and he's like, I just like to watch you
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  and he like follows them into their bedroom. And it's like, oh, Johnny's like a father to him. And I'm
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  like, isn't this man like 25 years old? I know. I'm like, maybe 18 or 19. I don't know. I guess and
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  he's going to college and then he's dealing drugs or bot drugs or something. What money, Dini? What money?
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  Oh my god. And he gets held at gunpoint. And then it never impacts the movie for the rest of the movie.
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  There's so many parts like that. Like the mom has cancer. And then it's so unnecessary. It never comes
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  up again. It's for sure. I definitely have cancer. And then just the daughter's like, oh, you stupid bitch.
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  You'll be all right. What? Oh my gosh. Oh my god. What did you feel about the four very extended sex scenes?
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  Oh, wow. I felt bad for the actors. It was a lot to watch. Like I'm not a prudent or anything like that.
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  But oh gosh, it was difficult. I felt really, really bad for the actors. But it was one part. I don't know
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  if you mentioned it or someone else. They use the same scene twice. Yeah. Like so it's with Johnny and Lisa
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  have sex two times. And she's definitely wearing the same eye shadow and the same earrings. And they're
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  using the roses again to like touch each other in four places. Like do they just do this every time
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  they have sex? She puts on her sex eye shadow and then they just rub the roses against each other.
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  Oh my god. And then when her and Mark has sex for the first time, I guess they had sex. He doesn't
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  even take his pants off and they're just on the staircase to dry-humping. Oh man. Greg told me in
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  our interview together that they had to redub his like moans and stuff after the fact, after they
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  felt met scene. So that's why it's just so cringy. You can just hear him like, oh,
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  Lisa. Yeah. Because it's all just dubbed in. Oh god. So speaking of Greg, he was at the
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  showing. It was the 20th anniversary of the room. So that was why everything was happening. And Greg
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  is, I believe he's going around the country from what his Instagram looks like and just going
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  to different movie theaters and going to the viewings of the room and kind of do in meat and greets
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  and stuff like that. So at the very beginning when I walked into the theater, he was there. And you
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  introduced us and he was talking about the room. And obviously I didn't know at the time that he knew
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  it was a bad movie. So when he was talking to me about it, I was like, oh no, I'm so excited. Like,
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  it's so good. But like I said, I want to insult him or his work, you know. And then that's when I
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  realized I was like, does he know it's a bad movie? And you were like, yeah, I'm like, okay, good, good.
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  But it was a really nice guy. I think it's really cool what he's doing going around and kind of
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  doing meat and greets and stuff like that. I think it's cool once you get to meet people actors and the
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  movies and get their experience and what they did and how they went about everything. Yeah. But yeah,
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  some of his stories about everything is just really funny from his point of view.
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  Yeah, he seems like a really cool guy for like the chances that I've gotten to talk to him. And he
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  directs films now. And he's an author. He wrote a book called The Disaster Artist based on his
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  experiences filming the room. And you definitely need to watch it Nicole. It's so good. James Franco
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  stars his Tommy and then Dave Franco is Greg and Seth Rogan's in it. And it's just this hilarious
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  behind the scenes look of just the chaos and ridiculousness of that movie and how much money
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  Tommy Wiseau just pumped into this production for really unnecessary things. Like you mentioned,
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  there was a rooftop that was available to film on. But Tommy demanded using like a green screen
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  in the South Stage for the rooftop. But yeah, I definitely would suggest you know checking out the
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  disaster artist whether you read it the book, you know, read the book, watch the movie. It's
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  good stuff there. But yeah, I'm glad that you saw it with me Nicole. I think it was a lot of fun.
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  It was. It was a lot of fun. Again, the experience of just the audience and the rest of the theater
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  made it worthwhile for me, I think. So speaking of bad movies and movies that have a following like
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  the room, there's obviously a lot of other cult movies that have a cult following that has the
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  same kind of scenario as the room. Do any come to mind for you that just they're just terrible, but
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  I've seen them and you just continue to see them because of the following that it has? Yeah, so
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  I don't know if I would consider it terrible, but I when I think of cult movies or movies with
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  cult followings, it's going to be the Rocky Horror Picture Show. It's over the top and it has this
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  huge passionate following behind it. Tim Curry plays a sweet transvestite from transsexual transylvania.
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  Not sure if you can say any of those words anymore, but that's a client line from the movie.
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  But it's I remember the first time I went was in college with my girlfriends and we dressed up
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  in like golf clothes and leather, which is just kind of how I dress now. But we went to a midnight
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  showing and you watch this movie on the screen and then in front of it, there's people acting out
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  or like mouthing along with the scenes and you throw props at each other. There's people saying the lines.
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  If it's your first Rocky Horror Showing, then they'll do a virgin sacrifice and so they bring you up
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  into the front and they'll just make you dance. Sometimes they'll make you take your pants off. I mean,
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  it's just it's ridiculous. But I love that environment. Like I remember it just being really just
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  fabulously gay. It was just a bunch of just films and gay people and just kind of quote, you know,
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  outcast folks and we all just had an amazing time and it was my first time up there. So we did the
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  Virgin SacriPies and they sprayed like whipped cream in our mouths. And then we watched this
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  ridiculously fabulous movie. Yeah, I haven't gone since. So I think if you and I can never go to a
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  a Rocky Horror Show, and you would really like it Nicole. I would love to. That sounds incredible.
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  I would love whipped cream in my mouth. It was awesome. It was in Timpy, Arizona, some little local theater.
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  I don't remember. I don't even know if it's open anymore. But I bet you anything majestic has
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  showings of Rocky Horror Pictures show like that. A lot of them happen around October, like Halloween time.
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  But gosh, there are so many movies with cult followings. Not necessarily, you know, bad movies. Like a
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  lot of these are amazing. But the evil dead, you know, refer madness, night of the living dead. 2001
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  space Odyssey, like a lot of people are just really passionate about these movies. I love the evil dead
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  films. I guess that kind of comes to mind too, is like cult following. They definitely know what they
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  are and they lean into the camp, which I love. There's a time in my life where I didn't like scary
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  movies, which is so funny to me because I love them now. And I remember when I was dating my husband,
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  he wanted to watch the first evil dead movie. And I was like, I don't know. It sounds like it's
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  going to be scary in his, but it's not. It is absolutely not scary. It's like this movie's ridiculous.
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  It's amazing. You're going to love it. Yeah, and I did. It's absolutely incredible. So
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  if you think about like bad movies, I don't know. Some of the bad movies that I like don't really
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  have a cult following, but I want to hear what bad movies you like, Nicole. I don't know. I'm trying
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  to think of bad movies that I'd like, but I know one that pops in my head immediately when
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  anyone asks me like, what's the worst movie I've ever seen? And it's very unfortunate because
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  this person is my favorite actor. It's Adam Sandler. And I think the worst movie that I've ever seen
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  was his movie, Jack and Jill. Oh, he makes terrible movies now. I mean, it was beyond like uncut gyms.
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  Oh, he had a string of just fucking terrible movies. Yeah. And Jack and Jill, he plays both Jack and
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  he also plays Jill. And I was interested because I knew we were going to be talking about this topic.
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  So I went on Rotten Tomatoes and the tomato meat or tomato again. Tomato. Have we want to say it? Yes.
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  Please guess that rating. Oh God, guess the rating. Yeah, try to guess 13. Three.
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  It's three. The audience scores are 36. That's hilarious. My brother-in-law loves that movie. It's so
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  funny. That in itself just tells you how bad of a movie that it actually is. That's hilarious.
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  Yeah. Oh, man. You know, my favorite quote unquote bad movie is Josie and the pussy cats. I love that movie.
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  Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, my God. You know, I think that movie has a little bit of a cult following now.
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  Or at least it's kind of had its renaissance because we're all just clamoring for Y2K right now.
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  And the fashion is just so 2000s in that movie. But I unabashedly love that movie so much.
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  Oh, man. Okay. I actually, I might have one. It's probably kind of got a cult following too. I don't
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  know. Maybe not. But like any of the scary movies, like scary movie one, scary two. They're obviously
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  they're terrible. But I love them. I don't know. I think it's so funny. They just do spoof, soft
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  of regular scary movies. But the one that gets me is the Charlie Sheen one in the scene.
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  And his apartment he just falls over his balcony. I'm so funny. Oh, yeah.
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  Terrible movies. They're all so terrible and so offensive. Like, I don't remember what's the second one
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  or the third one. But it's the guy with like his little hand and the mashed potatoes. It's just so
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  that stuff. Yeah, those movies are hilarious. Mm-hmm. You know, I just thought to another movie that I saw
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  at a local theater and they were doing. I don't know if it was a midnight showing, but it was one of those
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  things where they encouraged everyone to come and dress up. Speak along with the movies,
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  sing the songs, which are, you know, usually discouraged during movies. But it's different with
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  these cult following movies. If you know the lines, you're encouraged to say them. It was a showing of
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  spice world, the Spice Girls movie. And it was so much fun. We dressed in 90s outfits. We danced in
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  the aisles. We knew every line to that movie. And yeah, that was a great time. So I could definitely see,
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  again, within the stahl just stuff, you know, people are just, you know, things that they liked in
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  childhood or the fashion that they liked back then. Gosh, thinking of some other movies with cult
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  following super troopers, the lab rent, empire records, clue, Donnie Darko for sure. I know people
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  have based their entire personalities in high school around Donnie Darko. My god.
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  McGrubber to some is known as a movie with a cult following or a movie that's so bad that it's good.
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  And that movie stands out to me because it was my first date with my husband ever. Yeah, he finally
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  asked me out. We went to the movies and we saw McGrubber and it's awful. It's so bad. And then coming
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  out of the movie, I mean, we cracked up the entire time like idiots. And we left a theater and we're
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  like, that was terrible. And I loved every second of it. So dumb. I love that. I was going to say,
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  I'm mad like, was that your suggestion or his or both? It was his for sure. It was definitely his.
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  Did you know anything going into it? No, going into it, like it was this sketch on SNL. And so he showed
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  me like a couple of the like YouTube clips of the sketch. And it's making fun of McGiver,
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  like this 70s television show where this guy can fix anything with like a safety pin and some dental
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  floss. Yeah, and we were done. I was like, that was a movie. Oh, man, I didn't know if that'd be
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  the deal breaker. Obviously it wasn't. But like, okay, like, why did you take me to this movie?
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  All right. See you live for my first date. Sorry. Sorry. Look what you are now. So it obviously worked out.
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  That's true. We've been married for a minute. So I think it's okay. Oh, man. It's super troopers.
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  Oh my god. All of those movies like, oh gosh, beer fest in super troopers. I think they're called
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  broken lizard or club. I don't know. There's some name for this group of people who make movies
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  in both of those are in it. And they're so ridiculous. If you haven't watched Beerfest,
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  I highly suggest it. It's a couple of guys who love beer and want to brew the greatest beer
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  ever known and go to a competition. Sounds like every man alive. Honestly.
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  There was a lot of people I went to college with who based the personalities on Beerfest too and
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  like, chugging beer out of Das Boot. Oh, man. So another group of movies kind of similar to that where
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  they don't really have anything to do with each other. But it's the same cast and crew who make
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  them all is the Cornetto trilogy. These are films that are directed by Edgar Wright and they
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  star Simon Pegg. Yes, Simon Pegg and shit. What's the guy's name? Nick Frost. Yeah. So there
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  movies that were directed by Edgar Wright, they star Simon Pegg and Nick Frost and a lot of them.
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  So the three movies there are Sean of the Dead, which is probably my favorite.
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  Hot Fuzz, which is also hilarious and so disgusting. And then The World's End, which I think is an
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  underrated queen. But Sean of the Dead, I actually dressed up as for Halloween a couple years ago,
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  I was Sean of the Dead. So I had like a white button up shirt with blood splattered on it and I had a
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  tie around my head. And I had a cricket bat that I carried around myself. So those movies are amazing
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  too. And I think that if we ever got a chance to go see those in theaters, that would be hilarious.
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  I'm not going to see any of these. I would love again the experience of the room
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  Canada makes me want to go and experience more of movies like this, even if they're terrible, just
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  being surrounded by the people made it. Those three are amazing. Those I'm sure on Rotten Tomatoes have
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  at least 80s and 90s for some of them. Those are good movies. But yeah, they're definitely goofy and
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  over the top and splattered with blood everywhere. But yeah, okay. So now our plan is me and you
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  find a good cult film with a live showing that we can go to. Yes, I'm down. Yeah, I've
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  ends up being Rocky Horror. Then you have to go up for the Virgin Sacrifice. Oh, I will. I will.
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  This thing I'll actually go up the room I didn't go up when they asked to read lines. I was like,
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  no, I'm not doing that. Not a good actor. I don't I think that would be the point if you're a bad actor
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  would probably make it good for the room. I went up for the first one when I saw it live and I played
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  Tommy and it's so bad. Just like, I love you, darling. Thanks for the pasta. It was so bad and I was
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  amazing. Yeah, but that'll be our plan now Nicole. We're going to find a cult. A cult film that we
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  can laugh about. We are inside Jim. Even if anything, we'll suggest it to Majestic say, hey,
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  have a screening of this. Yes, have a core netto trilogy screening. That's going to be my vote.
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  It wouldn't surprise me if they've done it before, especially like Rocky Horror. Do it in October
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  because it's a zombie movie. But Hot Fuzz is about cops. You can do that anytime.
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  That's another episode of the Pop Culture Junkie podcast and where can the bad movie lovers out
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