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DAMION HALL - The Turkey Slammer & the Cost of a Signature · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Hey guys, welcome to another episode of
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  Speaker 2: Eating While Broke. I'm your host Coley Witt, and today
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  Speaker 2: we have the legendary Damien Hall, producer, songwriter and founding
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  Speaker 2: member of the legendary R and B group.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, you grew up on New Jacks Wing.
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  Speaker 2: You already knew know the impact the Timeless records, NonStop
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  Speaker 2: energy and the sound that helped define an entire era.
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  Speaker 3: I like that. That's that's a nice little intro. You know. Look,
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, Guy was everything to me.
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  Speaker 3: For me, when you're come into a group with your brother,
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  Speaker 3: who you know, I loved to call my soul. I
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  Speaker 3: was in college when he came to school. It was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 3: hold on a second, Yo, I want to be famous, right,
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  Speaker 3: And I said, I said, He said I want to
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  Speaker 3: be famous, and I was like, you want to be famous?
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  Speaker 3: He said, Yo, you got to come and be in
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  Speaker 3: this group. I called my dad. I called my dad
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  Speaker 3: and said, Dad, can I leave school? He said, you
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  Speaker 3: can do what you want to do. I left right
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  Speaker 3: before finals and I went to help my brother. You
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And this ain't supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: smoking Like that. So there's something on there y'all about
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  Speaker 3: to catch us on fire in this month. But look,
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  Speaker 3: so at the end of the day, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: my brother wanted something, I knew, he was so excited
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  Speaker 3: about it. And for me, I wanted to be a businessman.
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  Speaker 3: I really wanted to be able to open up businesses
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  Speaker 3: and know where money come from, know where that dollar
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  Speaker 3: come from. And I also wanted to be a martialized
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  Speaker 3: action movie star because I just love the fighting aspects
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  Speaker 3: of knowing what to do with your body and how
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  Speaker 3: to do it right. But when I went to New York,
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  Speaker 3: because I was a Virginia State University. When I went
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  Speaker 3: to New York and I saw the excitement, I heard
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  Speaker 3: the music, I was like, wow, I didn't understand it.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm a drummer. So when I heard him, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, man, you sound good man and Teddy.
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  Speaker 3: Teddy had this big fir fox coat on with a
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  Speaker 3: four finger diamond gold ring and he was at the
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  Speaker 3: board and I was like, man, who's this young nigga?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying like, and there was this
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  Speaker 3: jam and I was like, this is great. So anything
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  Speaker 3: for my brother, and I tell people this, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Am I my brother's keeper? Yes? I am.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that sometime you have to give up what
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  Speaker 3: it is you want to do to help somebody else
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  Speaker 3: get to that level. Wow, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: And so I took the responsibility to say I was
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  Speaker 3: the first person to go to college to say I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to finish college and I'm gonna go and
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  Speaker 3: make sure that my brother can get the life he wanted,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And whatever level I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna fit into it, I fit into it. And I
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  Speaker 3: ended up being, you know, the third group member, the
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  Speaker 3: third member, Aaron Hall's brother, and then came with the
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  Speaker 3: nickname Crazy Legs, and then I was Crazy Legs. But
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  Speaker 3: it's like he's the third guy, right, the guy on
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  Speaker 3: the drums, He's the third guy. And when I saw
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  Speaker 3: that and we was on Apollo and I was playing
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  Speaker 3: the Aaron and the Teddy was on the front just
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  Speaker 3: doing eything, I was like, everybody screaming for them. I'm
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  Speaker 3: on the drums. They're not paying attention to me. We
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  Speaker 3: got the same outfit on I was like, hell, no,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not playing drums no more. Because I realized if
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  Speaker 3: I stay in the drums, it's not like a rock group.
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  Speaker 3: Like rock groups, you know, this is the band, this
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  Speaker 3: is what it is. They all get. I would have
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  Speaker 3: been non famous being on the drums because they was
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  Speaker 3: only focusing on Aaron and Teddy. So I had to
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  Speaker 3: create my own little niche within the group. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm happy for what the group did and
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  Speaker 3: what the group can still do.
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  Speaker 2: How hard was the journey in the beginning? Oh and bye,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, what are you gonna have me eating today?
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna eat the turkey.
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  Speaker 2: Slammer, the turkey slam and your your plates are hot?
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  Speaker 3: My plates need both burners, you know what. I don't
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  Speaker 3: really don't need both burners. So we're gonna turn up
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  Speaker 3: the one that's about to kill us. Yes, but here, yes,
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  Speaker 3: gonna turn that. We live up to our were We
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  Speaker 3: are not playing no games, So this one we're gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And oh he has the I got grapes sea. You
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  Speaker 3: don't don't mess them onney, don't mess up in it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So the what's the ingredients? What's the name of
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  Speaker 1: the sandwich? This is a turkey slammer, A turkey slammer,
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  Speaker 1: and what's the ingredients?
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  Speaker 3: We have regular sandwich, turkey chopped up. We have your spinach,
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  Speaker 3: we have three eggs. We have your honey wheat bread.
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  Speaker 3: We have Lowry's because you know, black people use Larrys
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  Speaker 3: is everything. I don't really need all the rest of
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  Speaker 3: that and mayonnaise when I say this is the.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know Laurie's has salt and sugar, and it does.
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  Speaker 3: But I get it.
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  Speaker 1: But for you, no, no, no, I was just curious. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to the way.
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  Speaker 3: No no, I gotta make sure you like it too,
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  Speaker 3: So I put some pepper in that joint so you can,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you can at least take a bite of it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get to cooking.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, get to cooking. Here we go. Were just as
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  Speaker 3: good luck with this breakage.
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  Speaker 2: How long did it take you from being in leaving
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  Speaker 2: college she be coming to breaking your first huge hit?
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  Speaker 2: How How long and how hard was that journey?
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  Speaker 3: Man? You know what it's? It's I think as soon
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  Speaker 3: as I went to New York and went to the
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  Speaker 3: studio and so Am and a Teddy, I heard a hit.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know what the hit was, but I heard
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  Speaker 3: something that made me. I'm a church boy, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I was praise the Lord. God is good.
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  Speaker 3: Don't cuss, don't do that. I didn't do any of that.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't talk to I didn't talk to females. This
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  Speaker 3: is for real. My whole high school, I wasn't talking
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  Speaker 3: to girls. So everybody was like, damn, d don't do anything.
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  Speaker 3: I did martial arts all the time. Me and my friends.
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  Speaker 3: We rode bikes. I was doing BMX before BMX, we
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  Speaker 3: was skateboarding, basketball, football, stickball, we were doing everything. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if you're from New York. We did something called ringo Levio.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you okay, you hide to take
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  Speaker 3: a belt or any weapon of your choice. It's like
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  Speaker 3: twelve people on one side and twelve people on the
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  Speaker 3: other side, or could be twenty four and twenty four,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is, and you'll take this weapon, and you'll
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  Speaker 3: hide this weapon underneath a particular place, maybe underneath a
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  Speaker 3: car wheel. And then the other team you go, okay,
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  Speaker 3: go ahead and for it. And you got to be
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  Speaker 3: like real close behind them, and you go cold hot
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  Speaker 3: hot when they grab that joint. What they just they God,
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  Speaker 3: if they hit you, then you gotta go and stay
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  Speaker 3: on a curve like like's some kind of there's a
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  Speaker 3: place like a cell. Right, so we try to get
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  Speaker 3: as much of the try to get as much of
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  Speaker 3: the of the people. Oh okay, hold on, this is
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  Speaker 3: a new one, so we gotta get it. We gotta
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  Speaker 3: get as much of the people that you can on
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  Speaker 3: to that that cell. And then if you if you
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  Speaker 3: got to them, then the whole team you know kind
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  Speaker 3: of bucks you up do what they do whatever whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And it was fun. So, you know, we played a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of games.
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  Speaker 1: So how long did it take?
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  Speaker 2: How long and how hard was that journey to get
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  Speaker 2: to that first hit?
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  Speaker 1: Though? Would you say, looking back, look.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, just like one of those one of
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  Speaker 3: those get downs, you know what I mean, burn me out,
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  Speaker 3: don't burn me out. So when you heard when when
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  Speaker 3: I heard the music, the music was so amazing, you
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't think that it wouldn't work. And again I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know anything from anything when you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: the music, right, So I just I just knew it
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  Speaker 3: was it was dope. It sounded great. I knew my
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  Speaker 3: brother sounded phenomenal something because he's a church boy. He
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  Speaker 3: was stinging with Hezekiah Walker, you know a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the main Gospel Choaiet groups and all that stuff. And
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  Speaker 3: for me, I was happy for him. Again, I was
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  Speaker 3: happy for him. I didn't I just wanted to be down,
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  Speaker 3: and I wanted to be down for him in any
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  Speaker 3: which way that I needed to be down.
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  Speaker 2: She's looking like, oh, you drop out of school, you
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  Speaker 2: and your brother, you guys all pack it up, go
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  Speaker 2: to New York.
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  Speaker 1: You go to the studio in New York. You hear
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  Speaker 1: the record, You're like, this is a hit. How long?
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  Speaker 1: How long are you guys like thugging it out for?
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  Speaker 1: You know? Are you staying with people?
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  Speaker 3: Nope? No, Listen. I was in college, came out of college,
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  Speaker 3: and my brother was with Teddy doing a lot of
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  Speaker 3: stuff with Teddy at Teddy's apartment. There was at his
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  Speaker 3: mom his mom's apartment, so they would be hustling day
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  Speaker 3: and night and will be on the couch like only
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  Speaker 3: doing those late night sessions. I didn't go through any
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  Speaker 3: of those sessions because I was in college. Again, I
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  Speaker 3: was in college at that time. Okay, so being in college,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know what he was doing. I just let
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  Speaker 3: me go back to this. It's very important. When he
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  Speaker 3: was at my school, anybody thought Aaron went to Virginia
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  Speaker 3: State University because we did something where we competed. Every year,
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  Speaker 3: students would compet, and Aaron did a song with a
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  Speaker 3: girl that he wrote, Smile. Now, anybody I know gud
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  Speaker 3: music on the Future album. Smile was on the Future album.
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  Speaker 3: Aaron wrote that song in eighty seven that didn't come
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  Speaker 3: out until ninety Right nineteen ninety one, Aaron already was
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  Speaker 3: writing that song. And he won at my school that
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  Speaker 3: he didn't go to the year before. I won. OHK,
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  Speaker 3: so my brother came in upstage with me, which is cool.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't even going to the school.
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  Speaker 3: Now he wasn't, but everybody thought so when people say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: Anon went to Virginia State University too and went to
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  Speaker 3: Virginia State, and I go, well, okay, he really didn't
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  Speaker 3: go to Virginia State. But that's fine. But I think
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  Speaker 3: the song, the songs and the grind. I was staying
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  Speaker 3: with my dad. I would be and my dad and
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  Speaker 3: still going back forth to the house.
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  Speaker 1: And but you dropping out. He didn't make you work
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  Speaker 1: extra jobs or anything.
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  Speaker 3: I never worked a nine to five job. Ever I worked.
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  Speaker 3: I was the youngest trader on New York Stock Exchange.
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  Speaker 3: So my dad was a partner at a company called
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  Speaker 3: Benjamin Jacobson and Sons that got brought up forty years
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  Speaker 3: later from Goldman Sachs. And I was a young trader
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  Speaker 3: doing question trades tween the ages of fourteen and sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: Your dad taught you that to us?
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  Speaker 3: My dad taught me the grind of Look, whatever you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna do, make sure you put your all in it.
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  Speaker 3: I was first doing regular trades and then I lost
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  Speaker 3: three hundred million dollars and they brought somebody down that
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  Speaker 3: had a series seven. He got it back. They said,
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  Speaker 3: you go into the basement. The basement we called question trades,
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  Speaker 3: so it was an IQ department. And in that department
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  Speaker 3: we learned every second, every minute when the trade was
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  Speaker 3: coming in. So I became like a genius that oh
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  Speaker 3: this how a money flow? You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: And you learned this at what point did you lose
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  Speaker 2: a three hundred million?
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  Speaker 1: Well? How old were you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? I was fourteen fifteen?
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  Speaker 1: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I lost three hundred million. There was like this
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  Speaker 3: good is.
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  Speaker 2: The company for the company, not me, but they were
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  Speaker 2: letting you trade for that.
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  Speaker 3: I was trading. Yeah, yeah, I was trading. I was
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  Speaker 3: trading for a company. I was supposed to do that.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, okay, cool, Yeah I was.
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  Speaker 3: My dad was teaching me a lot of the game
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  Speaker 3: because he knew every bit of the game.
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  Speaker 2: So did you actually go to the basement? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: did at that age.
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  Speaker 3: At that age, between the ages of fourteen and sixteen,
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  Speaker 3: I was in the basement. So fifteen and sixteen, I
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  Speaker 3: was in the basement learning QT trades, going to question trades.
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  Speaker 2: So you were making your money off trading, absolutely? And
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  Speaker 2: what were you originally going to school?
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  Speaker 3: For? Business management? Computer science? Okay, so I had a.
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  Speaker 2: Double may feel like you needed school if you're if
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  Speaker 2: you were that good?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I because I was the first person in
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  Speaker 3: my family to go to college. You know see what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I love college. I wouldn't say I
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  Speaker 3: wish I had, but I think college was great for me.
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  Speaker 3: I did choir, Like I said, I was a square people.
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  Speaker 3: I just I love God, I love people, I love
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  Speaker 3: the choir, I love playing the drums, and I just
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  Speaker 3: wanted everybody to understand who God was, who Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Was, and when did you become not a square?
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  Speaker 3: Then when I got in Guy. When I got in Guy,
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  Speaker 3: and I'll never forget, I signed a contract and the
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  Speaker 3: contract was like nine pages. I took it to my
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  Speaker 3: attorney and the attorney said, I hope you didn't sign this.
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  Speaker 3: I said, well, I did. I did sign it. He said,
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  Speaker 3: you shouldn't have signed this. You signed I was seventeen
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  Speaker 3: when I yeah, I was seventeen going on eighteen when
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  Speaker 3: I signed the contract with Guy.
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  Speaker 1: Did you all sign the same contract?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely? They already I signed. They signed first. So when
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  Speaker 3: I came from Virginia State, I already was you know,
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  Speaker 3: there was like yo, sign here. They went right to
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  Speaker 3: the signas your page was like sign it. My buss
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  Speaker 3: said meen, you go to stun me. If you don't
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  Speaker 3: stun I'm not gonna be famous. I'm like, what, like,
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  Speaker 3: we gotta get this check. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. I just signed it. And once I signed it,
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  Speaker 3: I took it to my attorney the next day and
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  Speaker 3: he said, I hope you did not sign this.
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  Speaker 1: What was in the contract that was so bad?
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  Speaker 3: Everything you don't own nothing publishing every we if they
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  Speaker 3: wanted to give us crayons, they could have gave us crayons.
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  Speaker 3: They could have said, you seen you stung your ass off,
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  Speaker 3: here's some crayons. Go home. Like what you know what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying. They really had us like lockstocked and battles
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  Speaker 3: because the manager was also part of the group. So
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  Speaker 3: you had Timmy who started the group with him and Aaron,
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  Speaker 3: and then Timmy found saw Teddy. He knew Teddy already
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  Speaker 3: from kids at work and all that. He knew Teddy.
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  Speaker 3: And then Aaron said, don't want you to group without him.
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  Speaker 3: Now before the group came out, because people always ask me,
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  Speaker 3: well then you always you took timmy spot. Timmy was
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  Speaker 3: out the group. By the time I came in the group,
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  Speaker 3: he was gone. So reality, here's the criminal, little crim
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  Speaker 3: right here, just the cri crim yesterday. Maybe I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: no worry, It's still part of me. Don't get it twisted.
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  Speaker 3: So you know most people with the eggs, they let
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  Speaker 3: the eggs stick. The reason why I let the punt,
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  Speaker 3: the reason why I let the pan get hot. You
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  Speaker 3: see that? See what I do? See that? Look at that?
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  Speaker 3: You're hilarious I already put it in sandwich, mold in
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  Speaker 3: the pan. Look at that. Look at that you smell it.
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  Speaker 3: It looks I know it looks I know.
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  Speaker 1: I know you don't have no cheese.
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  Speaker 3: I don't do cheese. Listen, if I ate this for cheese,
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  Speaker 3: it's a rap. Cancel Christmas, no more tame in. I'm running.
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  Speaker 3: You don't mess up the whole meal right there, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm not doing it. So look at it. Look
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  Speaker 3: at that, look at that, look at that.
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  Speaker 1: That looks good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're seeing this one. You need to know. You
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  Speaker 3: need to get this, got it right? Okay, okay, all right,
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  Speaker 3: just making sure it looks smell lass. Yes, I tell
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  Speaker 3: people this when you cook right, because you used to
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  Speaker 3: like chef. You know your chef eat my boat, so
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  Speaker 3: you know how to cook. You got mad recipes. So
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  Speaker 3: when you do this, say no, ain't no black marks.
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  Speaker 3: You know how people burn their eggs and stuff. And
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  Speaker 3: then sometimes if you don't cook eggs right pop for me,
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  Speaker 3: I feel sick, like it makes me feel sick. So
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  Speaker 3: you got to scramble them correctly. And some people don't
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  Speaker 3: like scrambled eggs. They're like they sunny side up and
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  Speaker 3: all this other stuff Frida eggs. But when I do
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  Speaker 3: it like this, everybody likes it. See that right there's
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  Speaker 3: right right there. You go there. You're gonna cut this
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  Speaker 3: down because I almost burned to shut myself. Earlier I
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  Speaker 3: thought I was like, God, this is not this is
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  Speaker 3: not baby oil.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, earlier before we started.
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  Speaker 1: You set your hands. There's parts of your body that
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  Speaker 1: you can't feel. Nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel. Listen. That's why you didn't see me jump.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't see me go crazy. I said, hell, I
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  Speaker 3: had to be cool. You know what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 3: got to still be cool. Next segment, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying. No, but God is good like I. You
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: know this meal. When I walked in here, you don't
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: matter what. When I walked in here, I looked over
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: here at your at your board, and I'm gonna say
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: this like this.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: You can lift it up.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know I can lift it up. Okay, this
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: right here was my go to, like in college when
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't have no money. In college, they have no money.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I lived off campus, but and I lived like on
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: as a freshman off campus. So everybody was was like
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: damn date, D got an off campus spot on a freshman,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: so I always was like pushing the envelope. But I
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: had no money, so that was a boat part when
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I was in college. Yeah, I was eating this. It
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: was delicious. So you had chicken flavor, beef flavor. We
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: had I'm talking about this whole thing was none but
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: oodles and noodles. Right then, I said, everybody's eating all
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: the oodles and noodles. I need to get the turkey slim.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: So I created my turkey slim. Got it, got it,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: And I told the niggas straight up, you can't have
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: no turkey slammer because y'all eat alls and noodles. So
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I wasn't sharing my turkey slam They'll say that's just
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: no good d. They called me al some of my
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: friends because my first name.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Is is it okay?
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: So nobody? No one knows that, No one. I just
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: told you, no one in the whole world, only only
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: my and my white closest, Like we saw you on
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: the concerts. You're fucking great. I was like, okay, great.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: They're like, no one else calls me that, right, So
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: but I gave you the whole name, all right, I.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Heard it, okay, So go ahead, serve it up.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: So after you get this terrible deal, how soon do
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you guys feel the repercussions of signing it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Well, they don't feel Teddy and Aaron don't feel no
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: repercussions signing it at all. Why because they signed it
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and they were happy. They want to put them They
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: were happy to sign it because they wanted but they
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: want to be famous. They look, they didn't give a
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: damn but nothing else. It was like, man, we're about
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: to kill it, but the album was I didn't understand
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: what was what beat mannis.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna eat it exactly how you.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Eat it, oh man, oh man? See and how I
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: did it. That's why you had you made sure you
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: handed me this because how I did it, because sometimes
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: we didn't have the utensils I used. I wasn't gonna
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: do that for you, don't use I used my finger
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: to spread it. Of course, you when I ate that,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: you would have been like cut, he's out of here, right.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: So, but so they didn't feel the impact because they
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: were happy about the fame. But I'm just curious, at
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: some point they had to have felt felt it, right, we.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: All felt it at some point but Teddy. Teddy was
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: part of JO production, so he was part of the
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: the bigger picture, right, So I don't I don't think
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: he felt it as much as we felt it because
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: he was getting a lot of love, and which is cool.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: He deserved it. But my brother also shouldn't have felt it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: The contract for all of us was was whack. Was
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: not good. But you either sue go crazy, I'm not
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: doing it.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Or I'm gonna say, are you at this point a
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: little bit nervous about burning bridges in that industry?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Nah? I can't nothing about the insury I kept on
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: my brother. So the industry didn't mean nothing to me.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't go out there. We didn't tap dance,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. We didn't. Hey, we got
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: we got an album. You liked the album? We didn't.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: We didn't have that. We didn't do that. We didn't
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: We didn't go through any of the jumps, the ups
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and downs of it. Okay, you know, sometimes you drop
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: some stuff, and.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: So what did you do to manage the playerism of
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the contract?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: How did you offset it?
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: We just kept it going and listen, our whole life
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: was the good luck, like we're either gonna were either
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: gonna do this and become famous and be broke, or
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: God is gonna open up a door. I want to
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: use my hands so bad, but thank you'll use yours.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm definitely gonna I wanna use my hands
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: so bad. You have no idea what I'm doing over here.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, right, because when you're eating broke, you
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: do this, You're doing all this you take, you're taking this,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: You're like at home. It's good. You ain't wasting ship,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You're like, I don't know
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: who you had on this thing. It's all good. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: watch it. Holdo, holdo, watch your face cheers. Dang right,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: watch that? Mmm hold up? Hold up watching them hold up,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: hold up, hold up? Watch this. Don't we play no
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: games either too.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna front. This is amazing?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Is that? Is it amazing?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Check yourself? What's crazy?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Is?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Didn't I say I ordered wings?
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: This is?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: She said? She said.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I said, we're only gonna take go ahead, We're gonna
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: take a bite.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: You're not really gonna eat all of it? Because I
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: ordered wings. I was like, okay, okay, my tuck e sclamming.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Huh mm mm hmm. Listen, when you're in the heavy two,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: you're that go somewhere, man, lattes, you ain't got any
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: ain't nothing sticking on the pot. She don't even want
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: to do it. She's like, I ain't another day. I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: want to tell y'all, eating my blok is the ship.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I'm done.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: This is great.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I think the male complimented amazingly the eggs. You somehow
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: kept them really fluffy and perfect. Yeah out of ten man.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Two seconds one here you go. Be good.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Now you eat this any time of day, anytime of day,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: anytime of day.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I don't like eating meals a day.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I think if you would have toasted the bread with
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: butter on the pan.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: It would have I'm sorry, hold up, I'm sorry.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, it's good.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I like to know.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I'm saying that when you do it like on the pan,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: you do it on the pan, you get that nice.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I do that too.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: But you know, I like how you was talking smack
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: though we talk, but were talking.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm trying to give you the meal.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But you want to know something, I like the soft
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: bread too, though.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: See I used to do what you say I usually toasted.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I do squear I toasted it just on one side
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: though I toasted. Keep one side soft and one side
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: looking lovely. You know what I'm saying. It's like when
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: you see a girl, I leave that long. But you
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, It's like.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, I want to get into that too a little bit.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, So excuse me.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: What do you think you were getting out of the
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: industry if you weren't getting money at that time?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: We got money, We got look and I stay to artist.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: When you're atist. It all depends on on the respect
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: of the manager and how he's trying to play the game.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: So if I know I got something good, I'm never
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: gonna keep you. I'm gonna give you enough for you
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: to know that you got to come back to me.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: But I'm never gonna gonna screw you all the way
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: because you're not gonna do what I need you to do.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: We had bullets in our chamber. When I say that
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: the the songs that guy had were phenomenal songs. He
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: knew that. And then when we started really understanding who
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: we were and getting into our get down and how
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: we performed, the manager was like, ah, I gotta keep
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: these cats together. 's go hun away. So he brought
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: us cars. A lot of artists go through this way,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: So he brought us all three cars we had. We
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: first had the four runners, and we all had three
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: four runners. I had. I had a blue one, Aaron
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: had a no I had to excuse me. I had
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: a pro white one. Aaron had a blue one. Teddy
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: had a black one. He brought us car and we
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: put on the on the wheel. We had our faces
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: and guy and hinestones on the back of the wheel.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: So everybody used to follow us. So that kept us
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: cool for a while because all in New York was
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: following us every time they saw us. So we drove
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: everywhere together, me and Teddy. We was like, think of thieves.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Then he brought us three hundred z's And now I
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: don't know, you know what three hundred z is. You
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: don't know what three hundreds is? Those Nissan three hundred
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: that's like that was like the Ferrari of the time, right,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: We was the first three cats to have it. So
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I had a pro one, An had a red one,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Teddy had a black one. And are you.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Hinting to him at the time, that these are the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: cars you guys want or is he just saying let
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: me just no no.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: He just yeah, yeah he was. He's like it was
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: cool to He's happy. He was like, yeah, this is great. Right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: But you know when you when you are seeing things grow,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: you don't want to stop the momentum because it could
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: have been real bad. It could have been like you
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: you fucking this? Who will? And you schooling us? And
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: now we're on this big lawsuit when we first started
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: and nobody gets to to.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: See us, but are you are you guys having discussions
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: internally like absolutely not.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, Teddy and Ann was.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: So excited to be and I teach this when you
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: say two b small bee like yo were about to
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: be famous. We're about to be this, We're about to
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: be that. And I'm looking because I'm like, dang, this
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: is this? This is not right because I know math,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and five plus five is
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: ten h it is never thirteen? Yeah, so when you
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you looking at and what the hell? We did a show.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget this. We did a show Madison Square Guden.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Our office was like thirty second in parks around that area.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Third second in Park, so we're real close to madisone
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: square garden. We drove our cards to the show, so
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: there was really no expenses. When we're supposed to get paid,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: he came up to give so here here here zero
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: zero Zero's like, what, we didn't get paid for the show.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Now we all these dispensed this. We are in New York.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Madischuset's garden is right there. We talked we didn't get paid,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: so nobody knows this. Me and Jean. I used to
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: confront him in his office a lot and just told
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: to him, as yo, bro, this one he's mad. Damn
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: you don't shut up. Da da da da. Now I
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: have no beef for him now in any capacity. Before
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: he died, we had a conversation. I understood, you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: everybody's going through what they're going through when they see
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: the lights and the cameras and the action. Everybody want
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: to be I'm gonna be the best thing, and i'm'a
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: steal and I'm about me a test to Wolster, and
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I'm about this and by that, and I'm gonna get
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: these niggas just enough for them to have to stick
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: to it. And when you don't as a group when
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: you're not sitting there talking to each other going yo,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: we are all one. You're not above me, I'm not
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: above you. We all want we gotta look at this
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: thing and we are going in this fight together. It
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: was never that why because the public, the media started
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: praising Teddy, putting Teddy up there. Teddy was part of
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: the g O production, so he was the R in
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: gr production, so it was Griffin Riley produccia. I'm not
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: saying anything or anything about anything about him negative or
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: or or in any capacity, but when you see Teddy
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Valley featuring and this featuring you, you feel that it
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: ain't touching you. And where my brother's far as I'm going.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Because he was the voice of guy. He should have
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: been being praised that big too. People loved his voice,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: but he wasn't the one in articles ahl the versu
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: of the data. This is that you know what I'm saying,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: And for me, I really wasn't. I was just behind
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: the scenes watching and confronting and going, man, we getting
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: scowl bro, like this is crazy and then shut up, man,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: you're gonna're gonna mess it up for us.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: So I just even after they saw a check that
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: came in with zero.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Now the cars, I'm guessing you recooped all the cars.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: You had to recoop them. They weren't in the fine print.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: They were being so right.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Everything was smoking mirror to an extent, right, And then
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: it became I want to keep that car, so you
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: pay for that. You know what I'm saying. I want
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: to keep that truck because now everybody know about the
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: truck boom. I never forget when we got back together
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: again in two thousand, we all got Denali's and for
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: those that really knew, cause Denali was the shit back then, right,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: so ninety Denalis was everything. It's like, yo, we all
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: got Dnalis, My Denali. I hooked it up because every
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: time I get a car, I like to hook it up.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: So I put the wheels on the end, so go
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: up and down, hydraulics system, everything. Just to find out
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: the cars wasn't paid for. So I'm in La, I'm
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: chilling in LA. I'm jumping cool. I'm thinking, we this
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: is this is a car. This is funny as hell.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I never told the story. I was in my apartment
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: and I came downstairs. I was like, yo, we gotta go.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I went downstairs and I go into the parking lot
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: where my car is supposed to be, and I go, wait,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe I'm wrong. I literally walked back upstairs and
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: started all over again. This time my brain thing. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: sit down in my house, I go, there's nowhere. I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: went to my parking space and my car wasn't in, right.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I go back down to my part's space and say,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: oh shit, my car is gone. My guy said, you
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: saw the guy that was sitting up on the on
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the joint watching, so it was it was the repol guy.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't repay attention to it. I saw
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: the black cat sit up there. So when I went upstairs,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: he went and took the car. Boom. So I called, like,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: you ever stop with the car? Da da da da
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Oh the car wasn't paid for? Boom boom boom. I
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: was so caught up in the aggravation that you are
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: crazy enough to give us a car when we are
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: who we are, and you didn't eve pay for damn car, right,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And so from that point on I knew that things
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: was gonna be like this because it really wasn't. It
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: wasn't truthful, you know what I'm saying. And my thing
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: is when you when you have somebody that you want
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to build with, you don't build with agenda. You know
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, with a hitting agenda, I don't do agendas.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like super duper transparent about how I feel about you,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: what I want from you, and what I'm gonna do
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: as well. This way you can make your decision right
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: there on the spot, because I don't change when I
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: say something. I'm not negotiating. It is what it is,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: just how it is. And I done thought what you're
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: gonna say too, and don't thought about it. It's like
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: cooking this meal. I don't cook meals. And then I say,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: you know, because it's easy to go this shit is whack.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. When I do anything, I
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: know what I'm doing is going to be what it
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: is whatever that means.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: So it's the same thing with Mner Teddy. When I
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: left college to go into guy, I said, my brother,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I know he asked me to do something. He wasn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: on point, So I never, I never, you know, thought
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: that I would be in a position to where so
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: it just became a silent thing.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: So how did you handle your money? Seeing everything that
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: was going on. Did you get more restrictive, more planning.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: You obviously had experience in investing. How are you handling
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: your money? Was it a little different from what the
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: guys were doing?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: To an extent, I helped everybody. I gave to everybody,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like I would go on
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the corners and pay people drug dealers not to not
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: to sell to people in the neighborhood. Nobody knows. Nobody
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: knew what I was doing in that neighborhood, right, but
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I did a lot for the neighborhood. And for me.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Money is money, right, you make it, you lose it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: And when you deal with people that have an agenda
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: prior to knowing you, and you learn that lesson, are
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: you able to do you view people the same? Are
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: you always looking to see if there's an agenda attached?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't look at that because I'm
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: like a pro at discernment. No. I asked God long
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: time ago when I first got saved and asked God
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: to touch my life at twelve, I prayed for discernment
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and wisdom, you know, And throughout my ups and downs
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: of growing up and being a man, I am today.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I always say I'm a king cat. I don't that man.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Men kind of go up and down. King people know
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: exactly what they want, what is going to be. I don't.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I don't trip on the confusion and stuff. I know
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: exactly who you are when I'm talking to you, and
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: when God tell me you need to stick by her
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: or by him because they gonna need you. I just
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: know how to play it. Like all my friends know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Damon is very keen at people. So everything's always a
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: test with me. Everything, okay everything. I'm never around anybody
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: while I'm not testing them. You just don't know you're
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: being tested.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Good to know, good to know?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: What advice would you give to anybody in this game
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: from the legendary standpoint or from just getting in the game.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: First and most important is to know your business. Don't
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: rush for the glamor for the lights, you know, don't
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: rush for the materialistic things. Materialistic things come and go.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: You can get a Bugatti and you can have a Hyundi.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: If I put a knife to your tire and your Bugatti,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: that's thirty five thousand dollars. I put a knife your
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: tire in Honda. That's two on youred fifty dollars. You
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, You're still not getting there. I'm
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: not getting it either til I change that tire. The
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: chance of me getting it before you you got the
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Bugatti is I'm gonna get there before you because you're
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: gonna black thirty five thousand dollars. Most people that flex
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: don't really have the money to flex. And here's the thing.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: When you a lot of cats, and I tell this
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: all the time, when you get the black card or
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: you try to get the relationship, you can give me
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: black heart, get the black art, and then you get
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: the condo and you fix it up and you get
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: the card, you think it's going to because most men
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: do everything for the proof of a woman, you know
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And there is no other reason to
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: do and buy and get so much stuff. When you
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: got to settle and you got to really put your
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: life together. You know what I'm saying, It's very important
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: to invest. I teach every dollar I got to make
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: nine dollars. When you make a dollar, okay, don't get
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: a dollar and just spend that dollar, because a dollar
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: and a dollar when you first get it a dollar
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: depending on the average of out of money is your
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: dollar could be sixty cent today seventy five cent. You
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: go to the store, you say this is a discount.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: The discount is the same way said this was. I
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: don't know, this was four dollars, but you're gonna get
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: it for two dollars and fifty cent dollars because they
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: made it for seventy five cent. So everything is is
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: a fooling thing for the mind. Right. They want you
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: to think you're getting you're getting the stuff, but yet
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: you're still living in poverty. Yeah, the average the average
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: person living now got to make in Atlanta one hundred
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Just be medium income in Atlanta.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: In Atlanta, So if you do, you do the whole
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the whole region. Most people are poor. They'll never say
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: it because everybody want to flex and act like they
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: something that they're not, you know what I'm saying. So
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: for me, I look at things with my crew, we
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: look at things in the real light, you know what
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm twenty four to seven working to make
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: sure that people don't have to suffer. And before I
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: used to make sure you don't suffer, and then I'm
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: turned around and I'm like, I'm suffering because I didn't
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: want you being down. I can take it now. I'm
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: in a point now going on fifty eight where I
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: say to myself, I have to be selfish. People look
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: at selfish as a bad thing. It's not. I think
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: women need to be more selfish about themselves, and I
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: think men need to be selfish about knowing how it
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: is to really be a man, right, Like, let me
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: handle my home and make sure I'm straight for real
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: before I go out there lollygag and playing with these
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: women and doing what kind of goofy shit. Right at
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, It's like, you really have
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to focus on what it is I want out of
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: my life. Everybody has to ask that question, what do
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I want? Happiness sometimes could be getting up in the morning,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: taking a walk, getting your coffee, and taking a walk
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: up up the mountain. And then happiness can be seeing
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: your kids just play around and you're like, man, God
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: bless my kids, and it's gonna be a roof over
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: your head. And knowing that when I look in the cupboard,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I have food, I have shelter, I have clothing, so
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: we good if you if that becomes a fantasy, then
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: all that looks the part and then you turn around's
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: like seeing a movie. You turn around, it's really not there,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: cause the next day you work in your ass off
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: so you can get it again. You work your ass off,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: get it again right. It's like it's like from table
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: to the I don't like living like that is is
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: not living.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: No, you know you're entrapped.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: You're trapped.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: So before we close out, can you tell me about
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Perfect Designer the new album.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Perfect Designer listen. I had cancer in twenty twenty three
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: cancer twenty twenty three stage two pastaate cancer. I also
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: had three hundred percent blood clots through my whole body.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I had seventy five percent of my left lung, five
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: percent my right lung, one hundred percent of in my
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: right leg, ninety five percent in my left except underneath
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: my knee. God told me when I did the surgery.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I did the new Addition Legacy tour May second. We
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: came off May ninth. I had the operation tostal pro operations.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe a week after that, I was sleep and I
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: had a catheter. For those men that know what that is.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I had a cather inside of me, and God said
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: get up now and do your album and do your
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: what your album?
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: And I was like and pay attention. Yanked me again
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: and almost fell out the bed. He said, get up today.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: It's out your album today now. For years I was
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: telling people I'm gonna do an album. What's up, Hall
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: of Fame Entertainment. I'm coming at you. I'm about to
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: do album. We're gonna do good. You know what I'm saying.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Guy all day? Whoo wo whoop. Never did it years
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: years year year. Everybody said he's playing games. But when
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: the cancer sometimes got to get your attention a different way.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I went and called my guy, said yo, I need
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: to come to your house. And I mean you got
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: the money, said nigga. The God told him, do my album?
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Said all right, man, coming, I paid them. We did
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: three songs of one day. When I say we, he wrote,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: he co wrote two songs, and then me and my
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: nephew we did the whole album together. Right. So I
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: always say God wrote and produced his album because I
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: did something no artists have done to this day. In
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: forty days, I did fifty two songs, number one, number two,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: no samples, no one does the album with no samples
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: because everybody's afraid that if you don't get that yep
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: that sound, ain't nobody gonna listen to your shit. When
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I did this record, I didn't go, Okay, what songs
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do? God said, here's your set list? Bang
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: bang bang bang bang. I put it in order. People
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: started flying down to Atlanta because I did the album
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: out here, flying down to Atlanta. Want to hear y'all
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: heard you. You got a record. What's the name of
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the record? Perfect Designer? Why perfect Designer? I said, because
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: when God does something, he makes no mistakes. So this
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: is a perfect R and B album.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, I like that, right, perfect designer.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: So and then I said, the women, for the last
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: fifteen twenty years, I've been treated wrongly. Everything's pussy this bit, that, this,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: that and the other on these songs. So I'm like,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: when you're R and B cat, you ain't talking that
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: on the albums for me, not the R and B
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: cats want to do it cool. When they heard this record,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: everyone said the same thing. And I'm talking about a
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: lot of people. Came. A lot of people have not
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: heard my album. Regular people haven't heard it. People that
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: are in the business heard it. They said, deed, we're
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: going to tell you the truth. This is one of
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: top six albums period in R and B. You're about
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: to hurt these cats well. And I was very taken
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: from that because I knew that the album was in
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: its form perfect. I knew in myself and I'm not
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I don't really look at musical. I know I've got
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: this in this. But when you hear the album and
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: when y'all hear it, when it drops, he was dropping
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: next month singles and then singles dropping July, and the
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: alb I'm gonna drop August, August, September, when your ladies
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: hit his album. It's real R and B at his best.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: And I'm if I can be a mustard seed of
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: a person to plant the seed again and to let
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: all these cats that do on R and B wake
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: up and not be afraid to be creative and do
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: their thing, do what really God gifted within them. I
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: hope I can do that. Like for me, this album
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: is great. It is me, And like I say, I
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: don't do anything from cooking this this sandwich, I can't
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: wait to finish eating Like I don't do anything because
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I come from a pedigree of Aaron and Teddy of Guy,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: where people look at Guy like Guy. The Guy first
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: album was everything y y'all knew jacket and we did
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: image style everything. We changed it. So I don't sugarcoat
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: that when I say, yo, Guy's the best groop or
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: get mam. When I say that, I said, you can
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: call your group the best group if you choose to.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think nobody could touch Guy. When we are
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: together as a unit, we're unstoppable. So I look at
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: music that same way, and I know I have to
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: bring it because if I don't, I'm gonna get ridicu.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: And I don't know what that feels like.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Okay. And then just last and I know we're probably overtime. Okay,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: we are, Okay.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Can you tell me a story that no one knows
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: about one of your hot records that like, just between
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: you guys, that no one knows behind one of your hot,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: your greatest records, Like tell me the record and then
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: a little backstory behind it, then no one knows.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, whoa, whoa, that's the one we want
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: to hear.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: That.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: That's the de Hall story. That's my album. That's that's
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: the first album story. You want to know a guy
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: story we did when we sounds good too, But yeah,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: no that Minds is much better. But it's and I'll
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: leave names out. But when we were doing New Jack
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Swing for New York, I mean for New York, and
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, what's the new Jack Swing for New Jack Swing,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: we were doing the New Jack City for New Jack Swing.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: The song we got together and we were in the
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: booth and we used to always have females in the studio,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So you know, doing the
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: making of that song, we had just a lot of fun,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I gotta leave it like
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: that because I don't like talking Aaron Teddy business for me,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: So I kind of leave that there. And I don't
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: the guys what we that was real?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Can I go in too, Yes, let's go to okay
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: because I feel yeah, I feel like it.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: I feel more safe. I ain't putting nobody out there,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: you feel me? So, oh man, I'm gonna state initials
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: of this artist. So I'm doing I'm doing three songs
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: with this particular amazing singer BM. Do I say to
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: even thinking he's a major singer, BM right. So he's
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: put he's producing a record. So I always said, because
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: he was, he's a Gemini, I'm a Gemini. He's super cocky. Right,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: He's like, man, I'm doing I'm doing what I'm doing,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: and you gotta listen to what I'm doing. I'm like,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I ain't niggas, but slower vaute. We was like, knock
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: your heads right, I'm like, yo, chill, chill the funk
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: out with that. You know we're good. I picked three songs,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: phenomenal records from him, and he bought this girl. I said,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: no girls in my session because I told you before
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I had a I was a sex at it. So
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I can see a chick and I'm instantaneously throwing darts
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: at her. He bought this amazing girl in the studio.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I won't say her name start with his z right,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: her name start with yeah. So he brings to the studio.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, ohh, I'm looking at her like, damn, I
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: gotta get her. No been as a buss, I gotta
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: get her. So he's like playing and doing his things.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: She's just dead, she's behind it. She's just damn. I'm like,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: good Jesus, she looked good. He just I'm like this
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: nigga's getting on my nerve, like he was getting on
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: my nerves so bad that it I'm like, I'm gonna
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: take this bitch. No, that's real. I was thinking right,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: So on the fly, I'm like, Bauma said, what's the
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: pleasure meeting you like this? When when I go like
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: this with it, I put my number in the hand, right,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: So I go, it's pleasure to meeting you. And she
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: grabs it. Because I remember I was throwing dark started
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: in the first she grabs it. Bank make sure he
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: don't see it. She she holding that shit tight like this.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: She makes sure ain't no white coming out of your sheet.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: She's like this, you know, like she's like this like
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: d I'm like, I had a session, my own session,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: like two days later, and I was doing a song
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: called Holding On And this song was on the zebra
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Head soundtrack first as an up tempo. I took the
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: same song and I reproduced it and made it a ballot.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I invited her to the session. She comes to the
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: session wearing what she wearing. I'm like, okay, cool, right.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I tell everybody you always gotta have a witness when
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: you doing something. So I had two witnesses. I always
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: do everything with a witness, okay, cause people make up stories.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: You didn't do that, Oh yes, I did. So I
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: go into the studio, I try. I go inside, I say,
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: turn the lights off. So if you hear the s
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: the song, it starts cue I'm hugged and on. But
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: you hear that on the record, I'm killing this girl,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: and I side to think. So I got a mic
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: here and I'm like this, and I gotta turn around
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: like this, so the mic is out of her mouth
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: and I'm like this behind her, and I got back here.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I thought out bo bo Right, that was only because
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I knew that when I did that, he he was
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: never going back to this nigga. So get this. The
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: next maybe week we have a session together. I said, man, yow,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: how's your girl? What's the name? What? He goes, Oh, man,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: I don't care about that bitch. Man, He goes, I
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: don't care about that bitch. I go, why, man, she
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: ain't nothing. I'm going yeah, cause she's been me every
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: day in my head, my niggas shold been me every day.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: So I took two of his chicks because he was
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: just yeah, yeah, yeah, he had a girl named Stephanie
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: was she was German. Oh my god, right, listen, No,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: the nigga got taste and listen, the nigga got tastes. Okay,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: and we got the same taste. So he did me
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: a favor and brought her to another session, and I said, nigga,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: I told you don't bring no girls here, but thank
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: you again. He had no idea. I was just chopping
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: him because she became one of my little get downs.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: You feel me, and that's all it was back then
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: for me and I really she would end up being
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: a sweet person, but I didn't really care. I really
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: it was. It was like, Okay, I'm gonna get her.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get her, and if you sit there playing games,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: I'm you know, niggas. Like I said, I didn't really
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: care about cats, so I just wanted. But that's my
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: story was that that was.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Thank y'all for tuning in. Peace Out.