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Inside Marvel's Failed Halloween Movie "Jack-O-Lant-Man" · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to artists on artists on artists on artists. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: do we have a panel for you.
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  Speaker 2: Today, Mystry's Screenwriting Expert panel of new voices in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: This is artist on artists.
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  Speaker 2: On artists on artists.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know why they call it show business? I
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  Speaker 1: always wondered that. Welcome back to artists on artists on
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  Speaker 1: artists on artists. This week, it's a bird, it's a plane,
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  Speaker 1: It's Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: Hollywood is dominated by one company, and that company is
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  Speaker 3: Marvel Studios.
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  Speaker 2: But what if I told you Marvel was releasing a
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  Speaker 2: Halloween movie based on a popular character that graced the
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  Speaker 2: pages of their comic books for forty five years. Well,
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  Speaker 2: if I told you that, I'd be lying because their
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  Speaker 2: show and movie, Jack o Lantman, was canceled. We sat
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  Speaker 2: down with the creators, developers, and producers of Jack o'lant
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  Speaker 2: Man the day after they found out the show was
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  Speaker 2: canceled to figure out why we won't be seeing this
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  Speaker 2: project anytime soon. Let's listen in.
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  Speaker 1: Well, why don't we start by taking a breath?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, just don't know why we decided to do this
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  Speaker 4: fucking podcast at a time like this, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We agreed when we had a show.
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  Speaker 3: And Libertha, our publicist, that this would be a good
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  Speaker 3: idea to come get ahead of it, and I agree,
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  Speaker 3: So I think we should stick with a plan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I you know, I think we all thought
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  Speaker 1: that this would be under much different circumstances. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we agreed to sit down months ago to talk about, uh,
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  Speaker 1: what was about to be a very successful Halloween blockbuster
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  Speaker 1: superhero movie. Obviously that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: Is Christ Jesus Christ didn't happen?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, everything is clearly very raw right now. Right, We've
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  Speaker 1: got emotions running high, and I understand that. Look, but
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  Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta just power through you guys. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's let's go around and say what we did
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  Speaker 1: on the film and what maybe we would have done differently.
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  Speaker 1: So my name is Bev Ryan. I am the writer
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  Speaker 1: of the once greenlit Marvel movie jack O lant Man,
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  Speaker 1: and would I have preferred this movie to be made,
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, But I guess what I would have done
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  Speaker 1: differently is write a different movie entirely. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Connor Ryan. I am the co creator
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  Speaker 2: and producer, and I have a story about credit on
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  Speaker 2: jack o'lantman. And I am also the husband of the
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  Speaker 2: bev Ryan here, who is the writer of this show
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  Speaker 2: of Jack O Lantman. And I say show because it
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  Speaker 2: was going to be obviously a movie, and then we
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  Speaker 2: had secured the rights to a Disney Plus spinoff show
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  Speaker 2: that was going to air next Halloween, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: in a different world.
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  Speaker 1: In a different world exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just mad for my wife. I'm mostly mad
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  Speaker 2: for my wife. I'm happy that we're still together. I
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  Speaker 2: love you very much, baby, but I'm really mad for
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  Speaker 2: my wife because this was my wife's big shot and
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  Speaker 2: I'm just mad.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, maybe I love you too. I love you too.
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  Speaker 1: I love you too. And you know this will make
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  Speaker 1: us stronger. Okay, don't worry about me. I can take
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  Speaker 1: care of myself. Did I want this Halloween Marvel movie
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  Speaker 1: to happen? Did I want it to go? Absolutely? Am
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  Speaker 1: I devastated? Absolutely? But am I going to be okay?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to be fine.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to be fine, and I'm gonna be fine too.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna be fine together, and we're gonna move on
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  Speaker 2: to something else. You know, one of those things we
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  Speaker 2: said no to because we said notice so many things
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  Speaker 2: when we were pinned down to the Marvel fucking beast.
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  Speaker 4: When we were pinned down, we said not to so
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  Speaker 4: many things.
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  Speaker 2: I love you, baby, I love you.
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  Speaker 1: I love your baby. I love your baby. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be I love you baby, I love your baby.
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  Speaker 2: You know, baby, Maybe I love you so much? Hey,
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  Speaker 2: fuck you love you.
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  Speaker 4: Hey. I'm Chris Donell and I shot uh Jack O'lantman.
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  Speaker 4: I shot it up until the point of it being canceled.
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  Speaker 4: I was the cinematographer and my wife did not work
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  Speaker 4: on this project with me. Hello.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Amanda Yachts and I am an executive producer of
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  Speaker 5: at Marvel looked there for the last fifteen years.
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  Speaker 3: I also don't have a spouse that worked on the film.
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  Speaker 4: U thank you so yeah. Basically, the basic premise of
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  Speaker 4: jack O Lampman was he's this man turned Jack o' lantern,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, he has kind of powers. He's kind
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  Speaker 4: of like, you know, a little bit of like a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of a witch, a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: wizard type of power. He has the ability to throw pumpkins.
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  Speaker 4: It was it was great, It was great. It was
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  Speaker 4: a really good night. Yeah, so that's all I'll just
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  Speaker 4: say there.
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  Speaker 2: He was my favorite character growing up. He was my
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  Speaker 2: absolute favorite. You know. He came out in nineteen sixty eight.
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  Speaker 2: He was stan Lee's response to the Watergate scandal, which
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  Speaker 2: was about to happen in about four years, and so
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  Speaker 2: he just the corruption in Nixon and the idea that
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  Speaker 2: you know, a liar with a light for a heart,
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  Speaker 2: you know, fire for a heart that glows through his eyes,
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  Speaker 2: the transparency of an evil being, and the redemption of
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm this Jack O'Lantern now and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to let it destroy me.
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  Speaker 4: And people forget that.
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  Speaker 2: He showed up in all sorts of you know panels
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  Speaker 2: over the years. Oh incredible. Bev and I have all
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  Speaker 2: of our favorite favorite panels framed in the vestibule of
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  Speaker 2: our house.
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  Speaker 4: He showed up and yeah, he showed up in Thor
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  Speaker 4: where Thor tries to save Halloween and needs Jack O
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  Speaker 4: lant Man's help. Yeah, he shows up and iron Man
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  Speaker 4: when iron Man tries to save Halloween and needs jack
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  Speaker 4: lat Man's help.
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  Speaker 2: He shows up in Hulk and he and Hulk actually
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  Speaker 2: smashes his head and that's the last time we saw him.
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  Speaker 2: He dies.
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  Speaker 4: We think that was yeah, that's his death. Of course.
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  Speaker 1: Sixties Batman, he was brought to a Halloween party by
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  Speaker 1: Robin and Batman. You know, there was this famous scene
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  Speaker 1: where he threw out jack O lant Man, not knowing
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  Speaker 1: that he was a superhero and they wouldn't know for
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  Speaker 1: a long time.
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  Speaker 4: And it was such a cool, great because it was
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  Speaker 4: an absolute crossover of DC and Marvel. Just you don't
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  Speaker 4: see that, don't see it the lamp. But for Halloween,
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  Speaker 4: they wanted to do it. They wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: I'll say, I'd love to step in here when we said.
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  Speaker 2: She loved to step in all the time, don't you, Amanda,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead, you love step Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Connor, Connor, Connor baby, Connor baby, breathe, Connor, baby, breathe
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  Speaker 1: for me, Connor baby, breathe baby.
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  Speaker 2: The calls coming from into the house, baby, don't you
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  Speaker 2: see like it's it's the mouse. The rep from the
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  Speaker 2: mouse is here. Like I can't believe she showed her face.
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  Speaker 1: It's my We can't we can't talk about the mouse
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  Speaker 1: when the mouse is in the room. Okay, Connor, we
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  Speaker 1: cannot talk about the mouse that way. We have to
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  Speaker 1: talk about them respectfully. Okay, Baby, the mouse eat my cheese.
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  Speaker 2: Baby, Baby, the mouse eats my cheese. The mouse eats
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  Speaker 2: my cheese.
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  Speaker 4: Baby, Amanda, what were you going to say?
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  Speaker 1: Amanda? I would love to hear your thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you so much. I appreciate that, and
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  Speaker 3: I just want to be I this is hard for
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  Speaker 3: me too, because I read the script and I was
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  Speaker 3: in those meetings. Then sure I green lit this for
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  Speaker 3: a while, right, And let me be clear, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to be missing represented here. Did I say I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to see what you can come up with?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Did I say let's do it? No?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I kind of wish we had, Amanda. Not to
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  Speaker 1: disrespect you, I kind of do wish we had known
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  Speaker 1: that after shooting for four months or so?
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  Speaker 2: Would you say, was.
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  Speaker 1: That how much?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Principal photography was three months, and then we spent
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  Speaker 2: a month of reshoots that you greenlit as well.
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  Speaker 3: Now with Marvel, I want to be clear, we have many,
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  Speaker 3: many movies being filmed. Do I watch the dailies?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: Does my assistant watch the dailies?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: Does my assistant's assistant watch the dailies. Yes, we have.
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  Speaker 3: Currently we have six films shooting in New Zealand. I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't remember which one was coming from where. So I
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  Speaker 3: do think a little bit of compassion comes through. And
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  Speaker 3: let me tell you, we have canceled a lot of
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  Speaker 3: movies and I I really want you to hear that. Connor,
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  Speaker 3: and I know you've been in the business a lot,
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  Speaker 3: and I know this isn't new to you because that
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  Speaker 3: we've all we're all veterans here, so we've all known
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  Speaker 3: that movies sometimes stay on the editing room floor. So
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  Speaker 3: this is this. We did this. It's just it's just
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  Speaker 3: with Valentine's Day men. And let me say tay Leone
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  Speaker 3: got cut out completely. Her role got cut completely.
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  Speaker 4: What was her role?
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  Speaker 3: She was the heart woman, the woman of the hearts.
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  Speaker 4: The legendary art woman of the hearts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's honestly. That movie gave us inspiration that this,
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  Speaker 1: something like this could be possible, right. I mean Valentine's
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  Speaker 1: Day Man made me believe in holiday themed Marvel movies
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  Speaker 1: in a way that you know, when I was a
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  Speaker 1: little girl, and this was the movie I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: make ever since I was a kid. I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love Halloween, and what better genre to support that
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  Speaker 1: and to enrich that then the Marvel Superhero cinematic universe.
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  Speaker 3: I agreed as well. I agreed as well at the time.
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  Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, so let's get into it. Then, I'm
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  Speaker 4: just you know, I'm sitting over here, I'm the cinematographer,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm brought in early. But I'm usually a yes man.
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  Speaker 4: I'm usually a yes man, and I guess usually what
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  Speaker 4: does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: Let's just say there were some yes. Is I needed
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  Speaker 2: from you?
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  Speaker 3: Will you pull him again? Please?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: What are you gonna do it?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Do I need to be handled? Do I need to
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  Speaker 2: be handled?
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  Speaker 4: I need to say yes to everything you wanted. A
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  Speaker 4: pumpkin fucking another pumpkin. That's just not going to work
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  Speaker 4: in a Marvel movie. How do the pumpkins get made?
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  Speaker 4: They're grown?
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think, well, let's just let's just reel
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  Speaker 1: it in for a second. Let's just I would say,
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  Speaker 1: had some artistic differences on sex being portrayed in a
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  Speaker 1: Marvel movie. I would say, ultimately, it doesn't happen right,
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  Speaker 1: but we have a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: That's where it starts. For me, Conna. That's where this begins.
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  Speaker 3: We have a brand, we have a we just have
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  Speaker 3: an aesthetic. But I love the way you write character.
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  Speaker 3: I love the way you write law. I love I
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  Speaker 3: love the the and he just got a story by
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I did? Oh god, why did I agree to this?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: Look look, look, look I know that I know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing. I know that I know what I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Doing, and I know you know what I'm doing, Amanda. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I know that. Okay, but the thing is you yank
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  Speaker 2: me for so long and then you don't let me finish.
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  Speaker 2: That's what happens every single time I work for Marvel,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not doing it again. I'm not doing it again.
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  Speaker 4: You guys are connor.
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  Speaker 1: They have made it very clear that we are not
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  Speaker 1: welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: Really.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's just what's happening. And it's okay. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're all adults here.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay. It's better because I never want to be back.
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  Speaker 2: I never want to be back of this.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's just I would like personally to leave the
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  Speaker 1: door open, you know I am. I'm always willing to
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  Speaker 1: start this dialogue again anytime that you guys are willing
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  Speaker 1: to open that door for us, and I will open
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  Speaker 1: that door for you.
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  Speaker 3: And Bev, I loved that you stood with me when
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  Speaker 3: I I'm sure I didn't watch any of the dailies
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  Speaker 3: for four months, but there were parts in the script
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  Speaker 3: that I said, you can fly to New Zealand. Here,
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  Speaker 3: here's eighty million dollars for three units, three camera units,
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  Speaker 3: but don't shoot that scene. I don't want that scene
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  Speaker 3: in all movie. And you winked at me and said,
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  Speaker 3: I got it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, can I just be very clear with you?
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  Speaker 2: Do you understand that the way you operate is not
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  Speaker 2: in any sort of practical realm. You do not you
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  Speaker 2: do not operate on a let's do it, let's not
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  Speaker 2: do it. You know, you're kind of a shitter, get
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  Speaker 2: off the pot kind of person, but you're standing on
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  Speaker 2: the bowl.
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  Speaker 3: What you just described to me is Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, And Amanda, that is so valid, That is so valid.
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  Speaker 3: That sounded like the definition of the city and the
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  Speaker 3: definition of our industry.
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  Speaker 4: She's got you there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes we flander and we scoundrel. Yeah, and we swim
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  Speaker 3: and we sink or we swim and then sometimes we
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  Speaker 3: get nailed on a cross for the choice we made.
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  Speaker 2: But do you have to be that way? Amanda? You
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  Speaker 2: could be the change right if you started speaking honestly
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  Speaker 2: to the people you're working with, if you started being
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  Speaker 2: creatively open, you could be the person that changes this industry.
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  Speaker 2: Because where we're coming from from as a creative point
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  Speaker 2: of view, we just need people who are going to
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  Speaker 2: give us to go and are going to tell.
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  Speaker 4: Us exactly what we need to do to succeed. Can
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  Speaker 4: I just you can? I'm so sorry. I just didn't
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  Speaker 4: like when you said people get nailed on the cross
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  Speaker 4: for their choices. You know, my religious beliefs. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't appreciate that. I'm a very chill guy. And
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  Speaker 4: yes there are a lot of problems, but do not
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  Speaker 4: bring up my lord. Thank you, Okay, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to say this is why I don't
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  Speaker 3: like to talk to the creatives. I am a business woman.
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  Speaker 3: I went to Stanford. I I don't understand the feelings
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  Speaker 3: I'm walking on. At the end of the day, I
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  Speaker 3: get money back, I get reports back about box offices
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  Speaker 3: and numbers, and I work that way. It's not a
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  Speaker 3: creative thing. Well, it's not a religious thing. I don't
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  Speaker 3: care who you worship. I don't care how you have sex.
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  Speaker 3: I care about the money and the dollars and the
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  Speaker 3: foreign dollars. I care about what these what these are
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  Speaker 3: box office means internationally, and this was.
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  Speaker 4: This will make money. Halloween is the number one holiday
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  Speaker 4: in the whole world.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with Halloween, Connor. I have
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  Speaker 3: a problem with the in depth sex scene at the
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  Speaker 3: top of Act two.
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  Speaker 4: It's not sex if they're pumpkins.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, guys, let's.
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  Speaker 4: Talk about that scene really quick, because just as a
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  Speaker 4: shooting perspective for me, it was confusing because it's really
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  Speaker 4: the it's it's very interesting because it's Act two. He's
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  Speaker 4: just really leaning into his powers. He goes to a
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  Speaker 4: pumpkin patch and he's looking around. He's got his pumpkin
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  Speaker 4: head on with his cute little blazer. Signist Jack lantern,
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  Speaker 4: just signist Jack lantern.
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  Speaker 1: And can I say, Michael Sarah, I mean, he worked
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  Speaker 1: so character.
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  Speaker 2: This was going to put him on the map.
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  Speaker 3: This is somebody on the map, Connor. Don't disrespect him
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  Speaker 3: that way.
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  Speaker 1: So shame that people won't see this because he's huge.
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  Speaker 2: Now people were finally gonna like Michael Sarah.
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  Speaker 1: After Michael Sarah is physically large.
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  Speaker 4: He gained a ton of weight, much weight for this role.
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  Speaker 4: Bulked up and beefed up. He beats up and ACKed
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  Speaker 4: and he's three hundred pounds.
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  Speaker 2: He did something that I've never seen. He beefed his
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  Speaker 2: head up in a way that I've never seen. He
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  Speaker 2: has what they.
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  Speaker 1: Call a quarterback jawline. Now, yeah, well that's all large necks.
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  Speaker 4: We have an.
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  Speaker 3: Incredible an incredible uh A group of trainers on staff
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  Speaker 3: and we this was the movie. We first we tried
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  Speaker 3: out hiring the the heads uh trainer who builds the
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  Speaker 3: head to be larger, because we got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people saying they didn't like Benedict Cumberbatch.
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  Speaker 4: It's too small of a head.
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  Speaker 2: Just movie, let's talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, doctor Strange. Doctor Strange had a bigger head in
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  Speaker 4: the comics. He had a bigger head and it just
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  Speaker 4: wasn't believable how small at he was.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't But let's go back to Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: like a marshmallow on a boulder. It was freaky.
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  Speaker 3: It was such a marshmallow on a boulder. I can
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  Speaker 3: agree with you there, Connor, and I also say this,
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned something very interesting, Chris, where you said the comics,
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  Speaker 3: and that's where I go back to that. All movies
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  Speaker 3: go back to the comics. And this is a comic
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  Speaker 3: from a TV guide that was in the back.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get it. Counts owns that TV guide, so it counts.
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  Speaker 3: No, it does. But those fans aren't ready to see
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: this because they don't know what that comic was.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: And to be fair, Amanda, I will say Devil's Advocate
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: on our part, there aren't any superheroes left for us.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Just to point that out everybody, I.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Would just say, we have gone through and we've found
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: every superhero and you guys have done it, and props
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to you, but you know, we are working with what
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: we've got.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Here, you know.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yes. The thing is, was it kind of a mad
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: TV style parody that Stanley was doing where he was
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: nodding to it, and it was two panels and they
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: look like family circus characters and one of them was
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: a pumpkin, and then one of the superheroes would come
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: in at the end, be it Batman or at the
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Hulk and then do something funky to that pumpkin. Yeah,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: that is what it was, Okay, But I grew up
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: on that. We didn't have a lot of other stuff
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: in my house when I was growing up, Amanda, we
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: had the TV Guide and we had a stick that
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you would try to get stuck in a can, and
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: that was a game that we played outside.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: That makes sense now, why you really wanted that stick
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: in a can scene? Yeah, makes sense, you.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Really push That was my very personal to.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: That was my creator. That was my creator. Cameo, right,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I was going to be we pay past man playing.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Can, child playing stick and you were not pulling off
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: that makeup because, let's be honest, I.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Was pulling off the overalls. And you know that the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: sex scene.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Let's be honest, the sex scene was not the only
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: reason this film got canceled.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, Chris, I'd love to hear your opinion. I'd love
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: to hear it, because, well, it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Was a nightmare for the DP standard. It's a nightmare.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: We couldn't even get half of the shots you wanted.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: You wanted to shoot through a pumpkin, multiple times, through
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: a pumpkin, you can't go through physical objects. You can
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: do it three D and and with some you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: special effects, but that costs so much. And almost every
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: shot was through a pumpkin.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: And we also, I said, we have maybe I think
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: two thousand special effects people and visual effects people on staff.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And you said, no, you wanted to go through the pumpkin.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well we would.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I wrote this. I would say, with the Pumpkins POV
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: in mind, right, I don't think that any of the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think that any of the scenes makes sense
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: if you view them through a standard camera and not
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: two little triangles and a big mouth.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: It was just confusing though, because when you jumped over
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: the other shoulder and you're looking at jack O Lanpman,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: you're not in a pumpkin. You're not because it's a
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: neural people. But for some reason, when you jump back
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: POV jack O Lampman's face covering most of the lens,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: you can only see, you know, a triangle or too
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: much of space.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Well, and Chris, Chris, if I may, that's because that's
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: what pumpkins see right in their everyday lives. That's all
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: they can see. And I think it would be artistically
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: dishonest to deny the pumpkins point of view. I just
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: don't want to about pumpkins. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, my dad, I'm.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Sorry, and my dad ran to church. I'm sorry, Chris,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I advise you to stay in your lane against my wife. Okay,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: i'd advise you to stay out of fighting with my wife.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Chris.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: They'll do this and then they'll baby each other to sleep.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I just want to one thing.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Oh really, Oh really?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Is that really what we're gonna do.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: I just want to say one thing. I just want
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: to say one thing.
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: Okay, I'm just I would just no say it, Chris, say,
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: if you were a pumpkin, you wouldn't see the inside
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: of your head.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: You'd see through your eyeholes. Jack old Man's head was
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: a pumpkin. It was not a human head inside of
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: a pumpkin. It was a pumpkin.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, now.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Here we get into a theological debate, right.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: His head was a pumpkin.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Get that, okay, okay, okay, But is the pumpkin Here's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: my question. Is the jack o lantern the candle inside
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the pumpkin? Is that what's seeing.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Or the Chris buddy screaming my wife one more time?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: You don't get coffee in your face. See you don't
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: get how your face.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Don't see the inside of your head because you don't
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: see through.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Your ow ow ow ow ow.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, maybe baby, baby baby, I love you, baby, I
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: love you, baby, I love you. Oh gosh, okay, let's recenter.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be removed for safety reasons because.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: You're going to say, right here, I have to ask
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you a question.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: And this is the question I think he's been wanting
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: to ask a long time. It deals with another thing,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: another reason why we almost almost made it to the
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: finish line but didn't. This is the one thing Connor
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: and I agreed.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: On, Amanda. The reason of all the things, O God,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the reason you told us yesterday why we got canceled
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: and why we got shut down, and this is no
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: more is that Jack O Lanpman is too close to
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: ant Man and audiences wouldn't understand.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: They would think it's a Halloween special of ant Man.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Listen, can he can I say this?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Well, let me just ask the questions, let me talk
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to let me just ask the question. I've talked to
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: your assistant already and she knows it. The question is
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: do you think we're fucking babies?
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Not the question I was gonna ask. I thought you
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: were going to ask a different question.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: A right, I didn't want to talk Chris wanted to
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: be asked this.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't want you to ask that question.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Chris wanted to know if you think we're fucking babies,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and if you think the audience is fucking babies. Who
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: wouldn't understand that the word aunt can be in other
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: sentences other than just the word ant?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Eric, Are you done?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: He's done? Yeah?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you?
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Bad?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yes? Baby? This baby say isn't done? And I'm done?
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let me all right. I didn't want
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: this for your sake on a public forum. I didn't
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: want to be traced back. I wanted to tell you
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: this in passing when I halted production. I wanted to
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: say this, and I didn't want to bring it to
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: a publication. Well, no, I work best when I walk.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I will say, you've done this a lot where you
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: have delivered parts of bad news as you're just walking
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: by me.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: No, it's what we do.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: It's what the Brits do. We don't sit and talk.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: We move.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, do you move on?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: When you said we're slashing the budget by five million,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and you just you just kept walking and I said
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: do you want to talk about this? And then you
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: were already gone.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, Listen, I said this.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: We're firing Shannon Sweeney passed by Paul.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Rudd did not agree to the pameo passed by Stanley
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: is dead.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Passed by You got more let me him.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Come on, we're moving you from New Zealand to Riverside.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Pass By.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: We've cut your camera team down to two people. One
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: of them is non union.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Passed by Michael Sarah's nack got too big for his
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: head and now he has to go to the hospital
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and to shut down for three days. Pass By.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry, I walk and talk, but I'll say this.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I did mutter a very important final note and why
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I was halting production about this in passing and not
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: in an email or written or tell the press about this,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: because I don't want people to know that you guys
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: wrote something so similar to at Men Relate. Take out
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: the sixty nine scene and the POV of the pumpkin,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: and it is almost directly at Men, and you didn't
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: even bother change changing the character's name. Far from it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Listen, Is this a story about someone who was forced
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: out of their own company of recruiting the talents of
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Scott Lang, a master thief just released from prison Lang
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: becomes ant man, trained by prim and armed with a
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: suit that allows him to shrink in size, possess superhero
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and strength, and control an army of ants. The miniature
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: hero must now use his skills to prevent Cross, also
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: known as Yellowjacket, from perfecting the same technology and using
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it as a weapon for evil, except with Pumpkins.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Sure that, yeah, Now, when you say it like that,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing all the similarities. The main character was Pumpkin Lang,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: the villain, villain, the villain, Yellow Squash. It's kind of.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: About the soul. It's about the soul of it. Every
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: story has been told a bunch of times. Right, Even
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Shakespeare was stealing from whoever came before.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Him, right, christerpher Marlow. Listen the thing about it that
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: really rides my fucking nuts on this?
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, Amanda, tell me what I.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Do that rides your nuts?
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Conna for you to tell me that our Marvel movie
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: is it original enough? Is bunkers? You guys are the
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: same formula every single movie for the past fifteen years.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Let we replace things, We replace things you used ants,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: at least replace the ants with something else.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Well, Amanda, let me po this, Let me positive this
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: ants are scary antswer Halloween?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, answer scary to pumpkins. If you can ants in
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: your pumpkin, you're throwing it out.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: If you know anything about pumpkins, it's the is that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: ants are a signal that the pumpkin is over. Okay,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that the pumpkin is dead. A pumpkin's number one enemy
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: are ants and flies. And we already know that flies
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: do not test well with Americans.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: And molds, and we were gonna explore molds in the series,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: which you're not gonna let us do.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's just let's just recenter because I would love
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: to come at this from a place of compassion. This
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: is a business transaction, you know, this is nothing personal.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I love and respect everyone on this team. Amanda. Would
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you just walk us through what you were getting from Marvel,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: like when you got the know. I would just love.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: To know, you know, like what anything I did?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: No, Chris, No, So Chris.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I do want to say, Chris, you did a great job,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: incredible artist, you did a great job. And I am
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: sorry I slapped you about ten minutes ago to just
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: apologize that mean threw me around the room.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, I say blasphemy things in front of
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: you constantly on accident.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Is love, God is Lord, He forgives. Just accept them?
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Sure? Sure, all right? Well, thank you BEV for recognizing
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: that I am a middleman here. I I work with
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the investors, I work with uh, the a big group
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: of people. It's not just me. A lot of people
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: villainize me because I happened to be the producer that
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: comes in and pulls the rug out from under productions
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: and halts them. Do you think that's a fun job?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Do you think you love it?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: No?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I don't, all right. I don't have any friends. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: haven't fucked someone since nineteen oh three.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Amanda, that's got a phrase.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: That's a phrase in London.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Do you you say that?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: No? No, what are you talking about?
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: I just go.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: A man, let's talk about it. I found your hand
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: lying on the ground once and I brought it to you,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: and you plopped it back on your your your arm,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and you acted like it was no big deal.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: You just said it was stress, stress related.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I'm a ghost.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Fuck you couldn't even get a Really do you mean.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: That literally or do you mean that figuratively? Are you
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: like a ghost of your former self or are are
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you deceased, Amanda?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Because I held that real hand, I know.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Just a ghost.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: I have been working in Hollywood for over thirty thousand years,
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: and I can't die. I keep coming back and going
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: back into post production.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I will never leave post production.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: As much as I want to explore Hollywood, being around
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: for thirty thousand years, being a part of it, I
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: just want to really just cement why we didn't get
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: picked up and why Marvel wasn't happy with it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah sounds like a crazy story, man, but we're here
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: to talk about Jack o'lant man, and we'd rather focus
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: We're running out of time, and I just love to
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: get back to this.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I'll say it was not enough. Yeah, we'll bring up
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: the focus group reports. I have all the focus group reports.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Of course we can.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: We listen to listen to them.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I have them on MP three or I have it
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: on physical copies. Let's do the Let's do the MP three,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Let's play it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: That sounds good and click?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, great. So the scene you just saw was Jack
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: o lant Man sort of saving jacquelant Man woman from
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: utter destruction. Now I'd love to go around the room
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and just hold up a number one being I didn't
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: I didn't like it. I did what number is for,
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: I didn't like it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, so right if you if you feel less like
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you like the film, that would be a one, and
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: if you love.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: It is something lower than one because I didn't like it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Jack O Lampman and jack O lant Woman terrible naming device,
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: completely unnecessary saving.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, where where are the movie stars? The only movie
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: star I got here was Michael stra and that is
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: not enough.
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: Frank, and he looked very unhealthy. The no amount of
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: makeup could hide the rings under his eyes.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I will say there is Catherine Hahn playing opposite him
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: as jack O lant Man Woman.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: She was another.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Terrible I don't know who that is? When she the
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: one that was also in? Was she?
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I believe so.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Was she playing the same character from WandaVision in this one?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: No, she was playing a pumpkin in this one?
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Why you do that? What's your name? You seem pretty
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: smart at this Marvel stuff.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I think you're I think you're so pretty.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Not you? Not you? The other girl anyway, total nerd.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: My name is Aurora, and I'm a little nerd.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I love your band our comments closer to the movie
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: at hand. Okay, I couldn't.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I couldn't keep my eyes open. Yes, I'm narcolectic, but
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: this was an awful fucking movie. I am have been
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: a part of the Marvel universe since I was twelve
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: years old. I go to every midnight showing and this
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: movie was dog shit.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I hear it. You know what? Do you
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: know what, Amanda, I do hear it. Thank you for
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: letting us hear that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Of course I didn't want to play that on a
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: public forum. Of course I didn't. It's brutal.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I wanted to hear more from the girl. Do you
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: have a photo of her?
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Your wife is sitting right there?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Does that mean Connor?
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: She just seemed to like it kind of Well, that's
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: the reason why they Connor. Let's be honest. I love
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: to address that was a week.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: That was a joke. I'm joking. I was weak.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know there's another reason why we.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just joking, baby, it's just your marriage was joking.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't the marriage problems. It was another thing.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: It was the press junket. When Connor was at a
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: press junket and he said, this movie is for little girls.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I was, yeah, no, let's talky about that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Look, they cut that out of context. I put two
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: descriptors together of every type of person, and I had
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: that go. And because I wanted to us, you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I said, this movie is for a little girls, this
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: movie is for little boys, This movie is for teenage girls,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: This movie is for teenage boys. I was trying to
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: attract every single person that would come to this. This
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: movie is for black men, this movie is for black women,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: this movie is for gay men, this movie is for
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: bisexual women.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: That's not how marketing.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Little women, big mom, big women, small pleasants, short dads.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Big, big hatted babies. I said every single thing I
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: could because I knew that you could take it, like
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: you know, like late night shows always do different advertisements
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: for affiliates. I knew that you could just take that
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: and put it in the audience. I was saving you
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the work.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: I don't just I just saying it out loud. I
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: don't think it would work like that, But.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: What do I never know? Will we We'll never know,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and you won't know, and I won't know either. Chris,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: So I'd like to like Comanda's fault.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to use this remaining time. I have to
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  Speaker 3: formally speak with you too, and maybe Chris, if we're looking,
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  Speaker 3: we're looking, we're looking to.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really know what I'm doing here, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: happy to help.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you're here, Chris, I am.
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  Speaker 4: I just didn't realize everybody else is canceled. You guys,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta get Michael, sayir, but he canceled, so you
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  Speaker 4: called me? Is that what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Michael was crying all day. Michael said he was doing
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  Speaker 2: that on set.
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  Speaker 4: He was doing Michael was.
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  Speaker 1: Having a miserable time on this movie.
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  Speaker 2: This gave him dysmorphia in a massive way. He doesn't
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  Speaker 2: look at it. He doesn't recognize himself in the mirror anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I don't either, because I'm a ghost. I'll say this, if.
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  Speaker 4: We could just stay on track, Actually, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: We'd love to hear what else you have, because we
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  Speaker 3: are in the market for a new movie.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I don't know, yeah, but can we sidebar
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  Speaker 1: for a moment?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Should we talk Saint Patrick's day?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Thank god they learned to sidebar. They've been talking in
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  Speaker 3: front of us and having side for years. And they
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  Speaker 3: finally learned how to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Baby. I can't believe we're getting another shot. I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I know, well, should we release the big guns?
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  Speaker 4: Should? Should?
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  Speaker 2: What about?
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  Speaker 4: Can I just jump up? Thank you guys so much
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  Speaker 4: for including me in the sidebar.
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  Speaker 1: He's not ready.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't flushed that out yet, Baby, Baby, Baby, I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: just want to talk to you real quick because I
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: don't want to ruin our relationship for these movies, these
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: white whales. I feel like maybe we don't do anything.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: You know, I've been talking a lot of ship to them.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: This feels like a trap from this ghost.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: It feels like, Baby, you don't you don't mean walking away,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you don't mean turning down Marvel? Do you cically insane?
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  Speaker 2: Listen. You can make the choice for yourself. But what
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say right now is either you can say
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: yes and you can pitch one of our twenty five
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: holiday related ideas that we have in our shared notes
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  Speaker 2: app or you can say no and we can go
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: together and we can go back to our house in
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Altadena and we can start working on that little blimp
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  Speaker 2: miniature collection that we've been trying to work on for years.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: We could do that together, and we can have our
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: own lives. And I won't say, don't tell me what
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: you want to make what you want to decide. Now,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: make the decision right now and tell Amanda. And I'm
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: with you all the way.
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  Speaker 3: All right. I have to get on a plane to Miami.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: So Amanda, before you go, I have an idea.
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  Speaker 3: I'd love to hear.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I'd have an idea I'd love to pitch you. It's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: something that's been brewing in the heart of my story,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: my personal story, for a very long time. Do it, baby,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: And here's the pitch. A screenwriter, mid forties, married to
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful man, going off to start her miniature
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: blimp collection and throwing it away for good because it's
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: not making her happy anymore. It's not gonna work for
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: her anymore. And no matter how hard she grinds away
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: at this machine that tells her, No, you can't make
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: a Halloween Marvel movie. No you can't make a Saint
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Patrick's Day Marvel movie. No you can't make a Passover
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  Speaker 1: Day Marvel movie.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Is this a Marvel character?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: So it's a superhero movie of that of that woman?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, about that woman. Listen I'm gonna green.
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  Speaker 9: Light this only if you oh, she's gone. She passed by,
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: also passing by greenlitt in passing. I was gonna pitch
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: high school X men. You got the ip.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: It's very well known comic. But you know what I
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: love forty year old blimp woman. Let's shoot it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: This has been Artists on Artists on artists and artists
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  Speaker 2: answering the question. Now, that's why they call it business.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. Happy Halloween, Happy Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Angela Jertana, I'm Jeremy Colhaane, I'm Patrick McDonald's.
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