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The Most Gruesome Deaths in Treehouse Of Horror (with The Simpsons Index) · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  Hello everybody. Dando here for the latest episode of four Finger Discount Extra here
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  on the four Finger Discount Network. Today, we're going to be discussing the
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  most gruesome deaths of Trios of Horror and I was lucky to be joined by
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  my co host from Gooday Ew the Wrestling Podcast here on the four Finger Discount
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  Network, mister Elliott J O'Neil from the Simpsons Index Podcast. Yes, he
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  has a Simpsons podcast of his own, so make sure you check that out.
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  You can find a link for it in the description of this pod.
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  But yes, like I said, we're going to be covering the most gruesome
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  deaths of Treehouse of Horror. I'm a big fan of Halloween. You know,
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  going up in Australia, Halloween wasn't a thing and look at all you
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  know, we'd get the specials on TV, the Halloween specials, not just
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  for the Simpsons before anything really, but you know it, it was never
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  a thing. We never went trickle treating or anything like that. And I
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  found about ten years ago Australia sort of break a bit more. They sort
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  of went, no, what it's a bit of fun. Now, kids
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  go around, get some candy lollies, as we call them here in Australia,
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  and you know, just just go dross up in costumes and why not,
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  It's just it's just fun. And then COVID happened, and I feel
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  like Halloween never really recovered in Australia. It's been what two years now since
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  COVID's kind of been finished, and it's getting back to where it kind of
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  was pre COVID, but not quite. But last year we had a few
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  kids trick or treating around the neighborhood. I'm excited for the trick or treating
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  in a couple of weeks time. It's the seventeenth today, so we're gonna
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  be trick or treading in about two weeks time as of this recording. My
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  son Ali, he cannot wait. He is now five. He went last
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  year and unfortunately we went out a little bit too late last year. I
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  thought it was like fine, you know, about five o'clock, but apparently
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  the kids knock off school and go trick or treating and all the lollies were
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  already gone. So we'll make sure we get out nice and early for trick
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  or treating this year. But my daughter Holly, she cannot wait. This
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  is her first ever Halloween trick or treating to both their costumes picked out.
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  Actually, Holly is turning three in four days. Times a happy birthday to
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  my daughter Holly, she's turning three. Like I said, I've got my
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  costume dad as well. I'm going as Dr Alan Grant from Dressy Park.
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  Basically what I've done has got the costume, but I've gone one step further.
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  I've just got the costume. I went and purchased from Target. There's
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  like this animatronic baby t Rex that you put on like a glove essentially,
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  and they can control the eyes and mouth of raw and all that kind of
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  stuff. So I'm expecting a lot of kids to want to get a photo
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  with this baby t Rex with Rexy and Doctor Alan Grant as we do some
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  trick or treating. But yeah, enough about that, Enough about my personal
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  Halloween shenanigans. We're here today to talk about the most gruesome deaths of trios
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  of horror, And what I found was there wasn't all that many in the
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  earlier seasons. For some reason in my mind, they were gory in the
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  early days, but there weren't so much though they were spooky, but there
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  weren't gory. The more gory ones came towards the later seasons. But you
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  know, we cover everything, not just ones that happen in the actual segments,
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  the ones that happening the little bits in between and things like that as
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  well. So I hope you guys enjoy that. As I said, though
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  the Simpsons Index, make sure you check that podcast that it is sensational.
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  It is co hosted by elliot j O'Neil, who you're about to hear in
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  just a few moments, and as you'll be well aware, he is a
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  Simpsons super fan like you and I so thank you again for checking out four
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  fiscan Extra and I hope you enjoy my chat with the legendary Ali Jay O'Neil
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  from The Simpsons Index discussing the most gruesome depths of Trios of Horror. Yeah,
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  there's something about the trios of horror episodes. It's just they're just so
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  fun, aren't they. You know, you just say what you will about
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  the modern day Simpsons. You still get excited for the Halloween ones because you
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  know they're gonna be I don't know, maybe it's my love for gore and
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  horror that just sort of attracts me to it. But you know, they're
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  always gonna deliver in something. It might not be the best ones, but
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  they're always gonna deliver in some way. With the Halloween episodes, Yeah,
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  like from a very early age, I loved these episodes just being able to
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  explore these exact characters but in a very very different way, and you know,
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  in a much more cartoony way, surprisingly enough for a cartoon. But
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  yeah, this is where we get to to play with the Simpsons a bit
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  like they were our action figures and then at some points drop their heads off
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  and it's very blood everywhere. I can just imagine back in like, you
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  know, the early NINETI when the show first started, they would have loved
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  to have gotten to these ones because they can just sort of break cannon.
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  Because they're all nerds and all horror nerds and sci fi nerds. Have been
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  able to sort of combine their show, The Simpsons, with their love of
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  sci fi and horror and all these other aspects would have just been so incredible
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  for them. I feel like the transpire would have been when they sort of,
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  like everyone sort of would have wanted to just make sure that they had
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  at their finger in that pie for that episode. Oh absolutely, and just
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  the excuse not to have to be so strict into Simpson's cannon, like I
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  mean, well, you know, if US fans will complain about the whibly
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  wobbly, timey wimy nature of The Simpsons, especially at the moment, and
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  you know, what is continuity, But it's it's nice not to even think
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  of those discussions when talking about Treehouse of Horror. It's just from its outset,
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  it's this isn't the Simpsons. This is the at the Simpsons Treehouse of
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  Horror. It's the same characters, but we're doing something very different this week.
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  Don't worry, we'll be a normal show next week. But yeah,
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  just sit back and have fun. And they so often are They're so often
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  the better episodes of the more recent seasons as well. It's funny whenever I
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  talk to Matt Salmon, he hates the way continuity. He's just he just,
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  oh, I know I've seen his Twitter rounds. Okay, really yeah,
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  We're just chatting that time in his mumble a couple of weeks ago,
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  and he's just like, I know why people are so such stickless of continuity.
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  By season thirty five. You know, it's just like just just enjoy
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  the show, just take it episode by episode, like I agree to you
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  an extent now. And I feel like the way the guy and I've been
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  reviewing the episodes and up to season eighteen, you've just got to go.
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  Does did this thirty minutes or twenty minutes entertain me? You know? I
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  feel like continuity kind of died. I want to say maybe season ten to
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  twelve ish is that when you feel like the proper cotton principle on the porpho,
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  it's sort of like the final nails, don't you reckon for continuity?
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  Not that the show was ruined, but like when you want to include continuity,
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  that sort of fucked things up a bit, didn't it. Yeah?
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  Actually, I think you've had him on the show before, right, the
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  real Gyms. Yeah, he did a pretty good video recently about the Simpsons
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  continuity and actually made the argument that they'd sort of been breaking the continuity fairly
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  early on as well, and it's always been you know, this is,
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  let's say a town that's just sort of stuck in a time loop where they
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  all stay the same, but the world around them ages. And yeah,
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  he made a very reasonable argument that they've been doing this since the start,
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  So, like, I think it was a little bit easy, easier to
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  get behind in the early days because it was like, oh yeah, margin
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  Homer were in high school in the seventies and then they had the kids in
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  the eighties, and then that made sense. But yeah, once it got
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  to season ten and twelve, they couldn't tell those stories anymore. And you
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  know against the points where yeah, of course, like that nineties show where
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  people think it's a bit more egregious than others. But yeah, that's one
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  of Matt Salmon's face favorites. This is such a bad episode anyway, is
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  it really? I can remember watching it when it first and being like somewhat
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  confused. But anyway, that's a story for another episode for it. We're
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  here today though, because you know, here at four Fingers getting extra,
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  we like to just pick a theme or a topic and just Simpson's banter.
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  So today you and I we thought what Halloween think we doing. We went
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  with glorious or most gruesome deaths of Trios of Horror, because there are some
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  seriously, seriously gruesome deaths. And I went through and watched skim through all
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  the Triosta Horrors in preparation for this one, and I found some in later
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  years that I hadn't actually seen before, and it made me go, Holy
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  Molly. I always hear about this one where Homer eats himself, right,
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  yeah, And I may have seen it when it first came out. I
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  don't think I would have. I would have remembered this. But man,
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  you've said to me that you want to include this in one of your ones
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  you want to talk about. So let's just kick off with Homer eating himself.
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  What Triosa Horror was that one from? Again? So? Yeah,
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  that was from season twenty nine's Treehouse of Horror to twenty eight. Fuck.
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  That's the annoying thing when talking about Treehouse of Horrors that you always have minus
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  one from the seasons. But anyway, I'll get that little bitching rant out
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  of the way. Yeah. So the segment's called Homer. It's the last
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  segment in that Treehouse of Horror twenty eight and it is the first Treehouse of
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  Horror anything that has come with Simpson's family member stepping out in front of the
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  red curtain for a warning and it's just pretty much it's Lisa and she just
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  warns the viewers, and it's it's almost pretty dry in that way. And
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  she was right to do so, because this segment is fucked up, like
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  you say, first time or first time in a long time, first time
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  in a long time. Sorry, Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah,
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  to make Sean like I'm sure remembers March the time, right, yeah,
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  yeah, for the first like four or five Treehouse of Horrors or something.
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  Yeah, and I feel like this episode, this segment really needed it because
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  it wasn't necessarily like gory, but it was just oh, it was just
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  on a new level of just grossness. Yeah. Absolutely, Like I've often
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  thought about, you know, because Halloween is a pretty big deal where I
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  live, and I sort of fantasized about like setting up a projector and just
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  playing Treehouse of Horrors, you know, for the few hours while kids are
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  doing their trick or treating. But like, I ultimately decided against it because
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  yeah, even like the earlier Treehouse of Horrors, even though they were death
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  Light, they would sometimes have some gory and gruesome moments and yeah, we'll
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  get into them today, but yeah, especially this one. If it like,
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  if it came up, I'd be like hitting the skip button immediately,
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  because yeah, this this one gets beyond the point of fun for me,
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  and just it's so bleak. It's so sad at the end of year,
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  feeling so empty. Like Homer, he's just gone the family don't have a
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  father anymore, and she doesn't have a husband anymore. He couldn't resist the
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  fact that he wanted to taste himself. And now he's gonna be a seasoning.
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  And I was like, this isn't fun at all. No, no,
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  and a seasoning developed by a very canceled chef Mario Batali as well.
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  So all kinds of bleak in this segment. But yeah. It starts out
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  the family are on a vacation or something, and Homer's left to fend for
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  himself and he gets frozen hot dogs out the very famous Simpsons frozen hot dogs,
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  and in the process of making them, cuts off his own finger,
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  puts it on the grill and then just almost immediately is turned into a cannibal
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  self cannibal and he just eats his body pats throughout the entire episode. Yeah,
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  and when he was like grating himself, I was just, oh,
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  maybe my skin for all man. I was like, oh, this is
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  this is so weird. It was just a weird one for me. Yeah,
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  well, I mean talking about most gruesome, this is probably the most
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  prolonged death out of any Treehouse of Horror, because yeah, this Homer whittling
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  himself away to eat himself, like, it takes up pretty much the whole
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  segment. And yeah, he does die at the end, like what remains
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  of him Murrio Batali turns him into it. Yeah, like you said,
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  a seasoning, but yeah, throughout that we just get that horrible montage.
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  Yeah, of like the grading himself and then like him putting a corkscrew into
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  his ear and pulling out some brain and yeah, using a tea one of
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  his tooth to top a muffin, Like, come on, Homer. I
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  do like the visual where he was they arrive home and he's trying to walk
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  with like one lenk. It had its funny moments, but yeah, that
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  the bleakness just overrode any any sort of positivity in this segment. It was
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  just a strange and to end it on it as well, so like they
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  left you with this one, like you you ended this chreess of horror feeling
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  like shit, I don't know, weird, No, I it really Yeah,
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  lacked in jokes, lacked him funny, and was really going for that
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  shock value, which yeah, isn't exactly what makes up my sort of favorite
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  treehouse of horror segments. But you know, if we're talking the criteria of
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  today, what is like the most gruesome moments, there is actually a lot
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  that you can pick from the newer seasons, they do tend to go for
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  a lot more gore than certainly they did in the older days. But yeah,
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  this one is so effective in that way they really did. I feel
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  like, you know, you watched the first ten seasons or so, there
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  wasn't that much gore really in the first ten seasons. It was more sort
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  of just like horror theme as opposed to actual gore, where I feel like,
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  maybe more towards the later seasons and these kind of seasons, they rely
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  heavily more on the gore than the actual storytelling. Yeah. Absolutely, Like
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  one are the ones that didn't make my list because it's I think it's called
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  Oh the Places You'll Doe. It's like a weird parody of The Cat and
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  the Hat where Homer's the cat and he's just going on a murder spree.
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  I didn't include it because like no one death stands out because the whole segment
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  is just these loose rhyming couplets while Homer is just going on a murder spree,
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  and it's just it's actually quite boring in its gore. Like it was
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  more of an animation showcase, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah, that's one
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  of the other things. You know, say what you want about the New
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  Era. Most of the episodes look fantastic, and this was one of them
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  where yeah, they obviously put in so much work to get in that doctor
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  says style that, yeah, they neglected to make an effective episode in amongst
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  that all. But yeah, like there are like a lot of examples of
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  this sort of thing where yeah, they just go for more of the gore
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  or sometimes like more just a movie parody or something, and yeah, it
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  doesn't doesn't quite be as effective as Treehouse of Bold. And that's why in
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  the early ones, when you got for example, when really got the axe
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  in the back, it stood out. It was like, well shit,
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  you know, because you didn't see all that much. But I've told this
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  story a million times of course, but just in case anyone hasn't heard it,
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  the Trance of horr episode is actually the reason I wasn't allowed to watch
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  The Simpsons till I was like seven. Oh that's right. I would have
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  told you, right, Remember how I groped the knife out of the hitching
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  drawer? Yeah, so bad dream house, thank you very much. So
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  it's it makes sense now that I'm a dad. Like before I became a
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  father, would have gone, ah, what's the point warning? You know,
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  fuck it? The kids shouldn't be watching it anyway. But now I'm
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  just like, just it's so easy to come across the Simpsons, you know,
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  not so much now I feel I feel like, now with the Simpsons,
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  you have to find the Simpsons because we don't have it on free to
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  air TV in Australia. I'm not sure what it's like around the world,
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  but if you want to watch the Simpsons now in Australia, it's Disney Plus
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  or Bust right, oh, because I don't have free to wear TV get
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  hooked up at my home at all. But I thought they were on like
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  Channel seven now, which is weird. Really Yeah, okay, yeah,
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  that's that's that's it. I'd rather forget about that. It's too dirty for
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  me. We grew up on Channel ten. I understand why they warn kids
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  for this segment, because you just don't want kids chopping their thumbs off and
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  putting on the barbecue do Yeah, no, no, it's some Yeah,
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  it's like we'll get into it with the list, but yeah, there are
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  some like moments that went for it, and like especially moments where like,
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  yeah, you talk to people about it, it's like, yeah, that
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  fucked me up as a kid, Like that was worse than watching the actual
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  like horror movie that they're referencing in times. Yeah, yeah, it's fine.
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  And a lot of the things too with the Simpsons when they take off
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  horror movies is that many of the kids were introduced to horror franchises through the
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  Simpsons. I didn't know what For example, this isn't a franchise, but
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  I didn't know what The Shining was. When I was a kid. I
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  was like, oh, it's a movie, it's not just a shitting Yeah.
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  I still haven't seen it, Oh my god, Like really, yeah,
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  okay, I've seen most of it. I remember I fell asleep twice.
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  I've tried asleep. Real effective horror movie then, very very effective.
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  I want to talk about one that was I think one of the more brutal
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  ones of the Golden era. Maybe isn't nice gruesome? I'm not so sure,
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  but it's the Fox censor at the beginning. I want to say Trios
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  of Horror eight, I believe, or seven that it keeps getting stabbed in
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  the back. Yeah, and the rating for the episode keeps going up and
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  up. Yeah. I remember, because that wasn't long after the I was
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  aloud to watch the Simpsons again. I remember it coming on and Mum beans
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  still a bit sort of like what do you sure about these Simpsons? And
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  then and then that came on. I was like, of all the episodes,
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  better than to put on Well, I was trying to think about this
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  because you know, with Simpsons in syndication we ad at five nights a week,
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  six sometimes with new episodes or whatever six o'clock Channel ten, and everyone
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  knows the routine. Were Treehouse of Horrors just in the loop, because I
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  have a weird memory of some episodes being like held back and then they do
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  like Simpsons Late Night or something to air them, like the Homer Weed episode
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  margin Homer Fornicating Outdoors episodes. I'm trying to remember if like Treehouse of Horrors
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  were just exempt from the syndication thing. I think that's some of them were.
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  I feel like they would have been, because I can't recall seeing them
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  all that often and just syndication. But you'd get like, yeah, around
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  Halloween time, you cheers of Horror at marathon nights where contended like seven thirty
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  to nine thirty or something, or maybe eight o'clock till ten o'clock. It
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  was always that little bit like you're right, yeah, but the all new
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  ones were always at seven thirty. But I think I put this on because
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  we've got Foxtowler Rember at the same time. So Fox tub didn't care.
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  They gave no shits. They just put whatever episode on at any time.
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  Yeah, true, And yeah I remember this one coming on and Mum just
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  being like, you can watch it, but I told you I don't like
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  these Simpsons, and Mum just had a knack for watching the ones that would
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  make a a cautious parent not want their child to watch the show exactly.
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  And yeah, if it's not him getting constantly stabbed in the back, he
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  did make a joke we could do without the crack pipe, you know,
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  yes, but but yeah, that was a more confronting one for me.
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  When I was a kid, I was like, Wow, they're not holding
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  back, he's just getting stabbed. Yeah. Yeah, and that was from
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  Treehouse of Horror eight from season nine. Yep, So still still golden ear
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  in my eyes for me? When when does your golden ear end? Well?
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  On the Simpsons Index, When we averaged out our scores, we do
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  see a bit of a drop from season eight to season nine in our like
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  average rankings, But to me, I don't know, season nine just still
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  feels classic eerror And as part of our mission statement in the show, we
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  still considered nine the classic era. But like, I still feel like seasons
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  nine to thirteen conveniently line up into the tweens era for me, and like
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  they have like a particular flavor that four or five season run there where Yeah,
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  it's still good, obviously not at the quality of the previous years,
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  but like, yeah, it's it's a bit more out there and stuff.
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  I don't I don't think we're quite in you know, the teens slump that
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  a lot of people, that turned a lot of people off. But yeah,
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  like seasons nine to thirteen, I feel like there's still some pretty solid
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  stuff that still lost a few people. But I think it's because they were
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  going a bit more bizarre and a bit more experimental and stuff. Yeah,
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  yeah, I'm the same. For me, my golden era sort of doesn't
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  end at twelve, but for me twelve, I want to say between like
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  four or twelve anything. Yeah, but if you got back into the show
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  around Sea nine, yeah, this would still be like, well, really
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  the first the first episode I was allowed to watch that was a new one
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  new episode was Treut of Horror six. Yeah. Right, So was that
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  the Homer three D? One? That was Homer three D? Yeah,
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  it was so excited. I was like, oh, new Simpson. It
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  was like the Simpsons in three D. And here's me thinking, like get
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  my little blue and red glasses on and think it's gonna be the whole episode
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  of three D. Yeah, it wasn't that kind of three D. But
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  that was that was three D the nineties kids, red and white cellophane.
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  Yeah, that's right. Uh No, this was Simpsons stepping into a whole
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  new era, not a gruesome death. So it doesn't make any of our
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  list, unfortunately. All I do remember being scared at that death. I
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  was home. It like came apart at the scenes and like as he was
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  being ripped through time and space, like, oh, what's gonna happen to
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  him? Like, but it's it's a non continuity episode. He'll be fine.
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  But I always loved the ending for that one though. In the real
• 19:53
  world it just felt so special. It was so cool, you know,
• 19:56
  none that felt the special effects that would have been like ninety five, I
• 19:59
  reckon six. That's it was so well done for its time in my opinion.
• 20:03
  No, it's still very impressive and like I think I used that footage
• 20:07
  for a long time at Sydney's Imax Theater as part of like a animation showcase
• 20:11
  sort of thing. Yeah cool, yeah, alrighty well, yeah, that's
• 20:15
  one of my gruesome ones. What's another gruesome one from you? I had
• 20:18
  another gruesome one actually, yeah, from around that time, the ending of
• 20:25
  I think it was Treehouse of Horror five. Yeah, yeah, because it's
• 20:27
  my favorite one, so way most people's favorite one, right, Yeah,
• 20:33
  it's just it's so solid, it's what it's time and punishment, it's Nightmare
• 20:37
  Cafeteria and ah am I not thinking of the shitt oh that shitting. Yeah,
• 20:44
  just talked about that one before. So yeah, when Bart wakes up
• 20:48
  from the Nightmare Cafeteria and then it was all just a dream. Honey,
• 20:52
  don't worry. There's nothing that can hurt you except that skin that turns sorry,
• 20:56
  except that fog that turns everyone's skin inside out. I like, I've
• 21:00
  got a huge tolerance for gross stuff, but oh man, I still find
• 21:04
  this bit hard to watch where everyone's skin turns inside out. It's like blood
• 21:10
  splattering every Well, yeah, it was gross. I'm just thinking about it
• 21:15
  now. It might not be a death per se. I guess Santa's little
• 21:17
  helper does drag Bart away at the end of it, but it's still he's
• 21:19
  definitely dead. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's still just the uh
• 21:26
  the horror as like the Simpsons are like clearly feeling all the pain in the
• 21:30
  world as this is happening. Like the animators like really must have a lot
• 21:33
  of fun with these episodes as well, just being able to like contort and
• 21:40
  just disturbing images of the Simpsons. Yeah, as their skid is literally turning
• 21:45
  inside out, that must also be a fun process. Ah what does this
• 21:48
  look like? You know? You also notice a lot more in the recent
• 21:52
  ones too, is when it comes to the animation, a lot of them
• 21:53
  are sort of like themed ones aren't there because I'm the last one. We
• 21:56
  had the take on what was the death Note? Oh yeah, yeah,
• 22:02
  the anime? Yeah yeah, like that, And there was another one that
• 22:06
  was like Parasite? Was it Parasite? The one before that there was like
• 22:10
  recently, there's been a lot of like Treus of Horrors where the animation style
• 22:12
  is so different from the normal, And we had the toy story based one
• 22:15
  that's more like CGI. So the animes are really sort of they're treating these
• 22:19
  ones like their babies to showcase what they can actually achieve. Yeah, And
• 22:23
  I guess back then when they didn't have the resources that they do now,
• 22:27
  you know, like, yeah, you mentioned the toy story one, a
• 22:30
  fully CGI segment. You know, we are definitely thirty years removed from ooh
• 22:37
  we got Homer in three D and we got but a little bit in three
• 22:40
  D And yeah, I don't I guess it was just a bit more special
• 22:47
  back then, knowing that, like these moments are so limited and so far
• 22:51
  and few, and you know, when they were doing movie parodies, they
• 22:55
  really had to make some creative decisions with how they were going to ate that
• 22:59
  style because they couldn't do things like I know this isn't an actually at AOL,
• 23:03
  but it's just easier to do it this way. Yeah, pop on
• 23:06
  the death note filter on everything you know and you know, but we're talking
• 23:11
  back in the days of pencil paper drawing and like animation, models weren't as
• 23:15
  copy and paste as they are now. So yeah, the other shows would
• 23:18
  have been willing to let them copy their style because now it's just like,
• 23:22
  oh, the Simpsons want to take us off, go for it. But
• 23:23
  yeah, absolutely, maybe in the early nineties, like, nah, you're
• 23:26
  kind of a competition. I don't think we want you still in a style.
• 23:30
  Yeah, exactly. Actually, just bringing on that as well. I
• 23:33
  always remember the Nightmare on ever Green Terror segment, like the start of that
• 23:38
  being really affecting to me, just like how watercolor and the backgrounds and stuff
• 23:44
  were, and how it just looked different, like they did a fantastic for
• 23:48
  me. I still think the best Trets of Horror is Treats of Horror five,
• 23:51
  like for the reasons you said before, but my favorite will always be
• 23:53
  Trants of Horror six abecause have got in the styles you ever been the first
• 23:56
  new episode that I ever got to see since the infamation Mum, Simpsons band.
• 24:00
  But also I just think it's a great combination of just like like monster
• 24:03
  movie, gore and sci fi and I just I just loved that one.
• 24:08
  I love every segment in TREESA Horrs six because you got attack of the fifty
• 24:11
  foot I saw was night Man, Never Green Terrorists and Homer three D.
• 24:15
  Yeah, so I remember us comparing less was something from Nightmare and ever Green
• 24:22
  Terrorists one of yours, I believe. Yeah, really getting burned to death,
• 24:26
  that's right, Yeah, yeah, which is like both gruesome and funny
• 24:30
  at the same time because it's really, you know, we always really sort
• 24:33
  of like the punching bag, but burning to death just seems like the most
• 24:36
  horrific way to go in my opinion. I just imagine, just yeah,
• 24:40
  I accidentally touched the frying payment on cooking a sturf fry and I'm adding commission
• 24:42
  for like three weeks. Imagine being burnt to death. I kin'd of.
• 24:47
  I just don't want to even imagine it. So just the idea of being
• 24:49
  burnt to death is just horrific. And yeah, that's why it's made my
• 24:52
  list of like gruesome deaths, because it's got to be up there right.
• 24:56
  Yeah, well, especially like watching the Simpsons and how they do their flavor
• 25:00
  on doing a horror segment, and this one in particular, like you said,
• 25:03
  it's still like funny. It's it must be such a tricky thing to
• 25:07
  balance, Yeah, doing something that's meant to be horror and affecting and gory
• 25:11
  and all that, and then still managed to weave in jokes in amongst it
• 25:15
  all, and then just having nobody give a fuck when Willy burst into the
• 25:19
  room bursting slaves, will you please, mister van Houghton has the floor And
• 25:26
  yeah, where we get the infamous to spaghetti Dinner's line, but we also
• 25:30
  get that do not touch Willy, we get smart. Whether we get so
• 25:33
  many I can't segment not into the kindergarten. Yeah, so that was actually
• 25:41
  the death I thought you were going to talk about from this segment, is
• 25:42
  the Martin death, because this is one of these things where what actually happens
• 25:48
  isn't too gory or gruesome or anything like that. Really, it's what you
• 25:52
  see is Willy's like extended, cartoonishly long tongue wrapped around Martin. But then
• 25:59
  Martin's reaction in the classroom when he wakes up and he's dying, is well
• 26:04
  that's the thing. Yeah, true, true, just yeah, a couple
• 26:08
  of screams and then falls in that jagged ass position and ah it is that
• 26:15
  was like one of my most affecting moments, I gotta say. And then,
• 26:18
  as you said, ending that scene with Nelson saying ha ha as well.
• 26:23
  So yeah, I just that was one of my favorite because everyone always
• 26:26
  goes to the shitting, but I think they the way they took off the
• 26:29
  Nightmare elm Street series of that segment is almost up there. Arguably is it
• 26:33
  better? I don't know, Like I just I mean, I think the
• 26:37
  shitting is more memorable. But man, Evergreens Terrorists when it comes to parody,
• 26:41
  is almost on the same level in my opinion. Well, it's also
• 26:45
  trying so hard, like it does so much effort to make the dream sequences
• 26:51
  look really cool and different as well, like other worldly, like in the
• 26:56
  final showdown when you know Willi's the or mower and everything like, yeah,
• 27:00
  the sky's that particular weird green gradient and just everything looks a little different,
• 27:07
  like they really had to workshop this one. And yeah, the effort shows,
• 27:11
  and it pays off as well, because yeah, I agree, it's
• 27:14
  I don't know if it's better, but certainly up there with my favorite segments.
• 27:18
  You may be have to explain it to me. The only thing about
• 27:21
  that segment was that I never quite understood the ending with Willy coming off the
• 27:22
  bus and trying to scare the kids. That was a weird thing. Yeah,
• 27:29
  it was. It was certainly a choice just to sort of undercut his
• 27:32
  whole danger and presence where like he just leaves something on the seat or whatever.
• 27:37
  It's like, yeah, you have the shoe behind. But I was
• 27:38
  like, so is he dead or is he not? Like maybe this is
• 27:42
  a Freddy Krueger reference. I don't know, I've only seen like the first
• 27:45
  Nightmare film. Yeah, yeah, I'm not too sure, but maybe you
• 27:48
  guys can let me know. Simce his mailbager gym edit come. That one
• 27:51
  always confused me. But yeah, Willy being burned to death and the fact
• 27:53
  that you know, a he's burning to death and no one's doing anything about
• 27:56
  it. It's just horrific. Happens have you got Yeah, let's jump to
• 28:02
  the teens era for one. I think you guys might have done this episode
• 28:04
  recently actually, where Homer was the blob okay, yep. Yeah, So
• 28:10
  my gruesome death from this is one where Marge points out that he's eaten.
• 28:15
  Yeah, so Homer's eating everything and everyone and he's turning into the blob and
• 28:22
  Marge points out that he eats the cat. And you see Snowball twos or
• 28:26
  five's whatever, Simpsons, the continuity you want to go with. You see
• 28:30
  her head like poking out of the gut and then yeah, Homer just whacks
• 28:36
  her with a butt. Yeah, it's just I don't know it was confronted
• 28:40
  because it's anything of animal cruelty just gets me man, and hitting the cat
• 28:45
  like several times before it actually died in the head with the frying pan.
• 28:48
  I'm like, I don't know about this. Joys, guys, nice.
• 28:52
  This is not funny in any way to anyone watching this show. I don't
• 28:55
  think. No, Like, Homer blob eating the cat is one thing,
• 28:57
  but then yeah it with a bat, like, I don't know, it
• 29:02
  just you wouldn't have done that with the cat outside the stomach, and I
• 29:04
  don't think that it makes it funny of being inside the stomach, and I
• 29:08
  are, yeah, yeah, it was that was one where yeah, I
• 29:11
  was like, oh that was that was a bit much. You just feel
• 29:17
  bad, poor snoble, Yeah, did nothing wrong. Yeah, and for
• 29:21
  a segment that was I think it was gonna always gonna happen, you know,
• 29:25
  the Simpsons were always going to do a Blob parody and yeah. But
• 29:29
  yeah, that was the most gruesome moment far and away from that one.
• 29:32
  Most of it was just as I sort of would have expected, like the
• 29:36
  Simpsons, just yeah, having fun with Homer eating people and things in various
• 29:41
  funny ways. Yeah, just making an entree out of doctor Phil mcgrare and
• 29:45
  all that. But yeah, the cat one was a bit too much for
• 29:48
  me. I want to talk about a poo getting destroyed in the squishing Machine
• 29:53
  from Hell to Pay for nine. I want to say the scariest part of
• 29:57
  this for me was that you never actually he saw what happened. You just
• 30:00
  saw the aftermath, kind of like Martin has slept to imagination, at least
• 30:04
  with Martin sort of knew I got choked to death by the tongue of Willy
• 30:07
  here, It's like, what the fuck happened to a pooh? Yeah,
• 30:12
  that's one of the more underrated Trees of Horror segments as well. I think
• 30:15
  from like the later years. When I said ladies, I mean like towards
• 30:18
  the end of like the Golden era. I've always enjoyed Hell to Pay a
• 30:22
  lot. Yeah, Oh, I really like Treehouse of Horror at nine.
• 30:26
  I'm pretty sure I gave it like a perfect ranking, and like I do
• 30:30
  grade the Treehouse of Horrors on a curve as well, because you know,
• 30:33
  they're inherently different, beast, and I think, yeah, you've got to
• 30:38
  more just sort of sit back and enjoy them. But yeah, Treehouse nine,
• 30:42
  yeah you got hell to pay. The Itchy and Scratchy come to real
• 30:47
  life. And then the Jerry Springer Maggie Aliens. Yeah, yeah, a
• 30:52
  lot of people rag on that one. I think it's very good. I
• 30:53
  love it, And now that Jerry Springer has gone, it's almost like a
• 30:56
  little bit of the stage like, oh, I remember those days when people
• 30:59
  can just go on TV you can get their tits out and but yeah,
• 31:03
  and I'll always love it for the line it's like, ooh, Marge Maggie
• 31:07
  lost her baby legs. I love the I always got a huge kick out
• 31:11
  of Marge swearing when I was a kid. Oh yeah, the visual of
• 31:15
  Joey springing it dying just hanging being joked by Maggie and just yeah, yeah
• 31:22
  I started. That is a really good tress of horror that I don't think
• 31:23
  people talk about anywhere near enough as a trilogy. No, but I mean
• 31:30
  except for the mom all yeah, hell two pay is up there with my
• 31:33
  favorite segments as well, and yeah, that our pool death is so bleak
• 31:37
  and so horrifying. I love how this segment does build its villain or it's
• 31:42
  killer in that way. And yeah, I possessed Homer and again cutting it
• 31:48
  with jokes as well, where yeah you get to see the crime scene after
• 31:52
  the fact and Arpoo's hanging upside down and like Chief Wigham drinking the squish,
• 31:56
  how long are we gonna keep? Let me drink that? And my favorite
• 32:02
  part almost the entire segment is the Hair's legs buckling as it's about to die,
• 32:07
  Yes, as it's being shot, shaking its fist swearing revenge as well.
• 32:15
  Great and yeah, not to be underrated. Yeah, now the gruesome
• 32:16
  death is yeah, snake Homer killing bo as well getting the second in the
• 32:22
  heart, Yeah, the corkscrew in the heart. Second of appearance of a
• 32:25
  corkscrew on this podcast. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly what we do.
• 32:29
  We're gonna be doing am a wrestling podcast after this. Maybe get a
• 32:31
  few corkscrews in there as well. All right, what's your next one?
• 32:37
  Uh oh, actually, yeah, let's throw back to a very early one
• 32:39
  Homer's dream from Treehouse of Horror too. So yeah, this is like the
• 32:45
  Mister Burns Frankenstein section. Like, now, you might not call them deaths
• 32:50
  because they're both very alive and attached to each other by the end of the
• 32:53
  segment, but I think as a good argument to make that both these people
• 32:57
  definitely died in these moments. So yeah, But so first of all,
• 33:01
  the moment where mister Burns and Smithers harvest Homer's brain. Yeah, first of
• 33:07
  all the very cartoonish like soaring off the top of his head, like it's
• 33:10
  just a little pop cape. And then yeah, the actual pulling of the
• 33:15
  brain. I always like got a little squeamish when that has snapping sound.
• 33:20
  That's why I watch it. I have to grab the back of my head
• 33:22
  and be like, oh, it's kind of like when you see a guy
• 33:25
  get keeps in between the legs in a film. Whatever, you or I
• 33:30
  can feel that one. But yeah, the snapping of the brain getting pulled
• 33:31
  out always gets me. I can hear it now, Yeah, yeah,
• 33:35
  and even in these days where the animation, certainly in comparison to these days
• 33:39
  is like fairly rudimentary and a bit crude, but yeah, no, less
• 33:44
  effecting well, and yeah, the particular folly decision that they made there,
• 33:49
  like what's the grossest possible sound that we can make for this coming out?
• 33:52
  And like, yeah, it's equal parts cartoonish and gross and I really love
• 33:57
  that. And also Burns dies that they're getting square by the fucking stun monster
• 34:00
  at the end, doesn't he Yeah, the other gruesome death Like yeah,
• 34:04
  just imagining this poor frailed old man just getting weight that would crush someone,
• 34:09
  you know, five seven times his size, and just the particular way they
• 34:15
  drew his neck as it was like flattening out underneath this robot as well,
• 34:21
  like always stuck with me as well, Like, yeah, a very effective
• 34:25
  segment, it really was. Yeah, when that always stood out to me
• 34:30
  that I think the first time I was ever shocked by a trans of horror
• 34:34
  was Trians of Horror four Terror five and a half feet when the gremlin holds
• 34:37
  up Flanders decapitated head. M. Yeah, that for me, it was
• 34:42
  the first time where I went, WHOA, I probably should have maybe,
• 34:46
  I don't think I've watched the first two seasons. I didn't watch him in
• 34:50
  real time, so I was sort of had to play catch up. I
• 34:52
  remember seeing this this trans of Horror four before I saw most of the others,
• 34:55
  and I remember they're just shocking me that the visual of Flanner's decapitated head
• 34:59
  because they drew got the spine hanging out at the bottom and things like that,
• 35:01
  and yeah, yeah, that's another segment that I've always been up in
• 35:05
  my top five tur at five and a half. They've always really enjoyed it.
• 35:07
  And I until I was never got the gag with Mollman driving the gremlin.
• 35:14
  Oh right, I was like, for when I was a kid,
• 35:16
  I was just thought, oh, so he thinks Moman is a gremlin because
• 35:20
  he's ugly. Yeah, I was like, oh he's driving a gremlin.
• 35:24
  There we go. Oh I never thought about that. Oh that's great.
• 35:30
  Yeah, yeah, that a really amazing segment. And yeah, one of
• 35:34
  the I'm realizing I actually haven't seen many of the things that they're parroting,
• 35:38
  but yeah, this one are both the Twilight Zone TV and the segment from
• 35:45
  the movie as well, starring John Lithgow all very good Dick Solomon from Third
• 35:49
  Or from the Sun. That's right, Yeah, have you seen it the
• 35:53
  Twilight Zone movie? Have you? Yeah? That he just does such a
• 35:58
  good job in that, Like just what an amazing actor like And yeah,
• 36:04
  if you've seen this segment, you're pretty much seen the segment from the movie.
• 36:07
  But just imagine, Yeah, the dude from Third Rock and the Sun
• 36:10
  in the place of bart here or the dad from Harry and Henderson's who says
• 36:15
  we don't want you. Oh my god for Harry and we du from Cliff
• 36:22
  had what an amazing career. John Lifthgow rules absolute champion. He was in
• 36:25
  the latest of the remake of pet Cemetery. I want to say, oh
• 36:29
  he was. He was the don't go down that Road character. I haven't
• 36:34
  seen it, but yeah, and yeah he was in the last good season
• 36:37
  of Dexter as well. Yes, yeah, what a man. Yeah.
• 36:43
  So yeah, this has turned from a top Treehouse of horror deaths to best
• 36:45
  John Liftgower appearances. I am the thing that you get touching on how you
• 36:50
  know you hadn't seen the things at this parody. But one thing the Simpsons
• 36:53
  did was okay, I was saying, he introduced young younger generation to like,
• 36:59
  you know, these classic timeless things like the Twilight Zone and things like
• 37:04
  that, where it made you want to go and explore what are they talking?
• 37:07
  What is this? And it's sort of like by by parodying them,
• 37:10
  they made you want to go and find out more about them. So I
• 37:14
  feel we can think like we can thank the riders of the Simpsons and the
• 37:17
  animators for pretty much turning this into nerds. I want to say, yeah,
• 37:22
  absolutely, yeah, Well, I mean, sorry to jump ahead,
• 37:28
  but yeah. My last one on my list is from Treehouse of Horror twenty
• 37:32
  five. Sorry, Treehouse of Horror fifteen's The ned Zone, parody of the
• 37:37
  film Stephen King's The Dead Zone. I think it's a Cronenberg one as well.
• 37:39
  Yeah it is where yeah, Ned's getting all these premonitions of other people's
• 37:45
  deaths and yeah, that's actually a Twilight Zone segment. Oh was it?
• 37:50
  Yeah? Ah, there we go. So the guy, the Guy.
• 37:52
  I'm pretty sure we explained it the in their review. I'll look it up.
• 37:57
  The ned Zone the actual store because it's a title as a off the
• 38:00
  title of the Dead Zone, but the actual story of a guy I've been
• 38:02
  able to see people's deaths. I'm pretty sure was a Twilight Zone story.
• 38:07
  Ah, there we go, yeah, because yeah, Ned's doing the premonitions
• 38:13
  and like they're all pretty gory and like, yeah, but Hans Molmon getting
• 38:17
  fed to alligators, You're like, yeah, it's Harns Moulmon. And but
• 38:20
  then yeah, Hibbitt falling to his death and like with his last move he
• 38:27
  injects himself with painkillers or something. But then, yeah, Homer's prolonged death
• 38:31
  as he's also teasing Ned about oh you saw how I'm gonna die Ludardi dar
• 38:39
  and like slapping the gun, go on, Ned kill me and like just
• 38:44
  really tempting fate here, and then when it actually does happen, and yeah,
• 38:47
  Ned is forced to shoot Homer multiple times even though he doesn't want to
• 38:52
  to stop nuclear annihilation. And then Homer's prolonged death there and then eventual landing
• 38:59
  of his tongue on the fucking nuke button is still so effective to me,
• 39:04
  I'm looking up here the Dead Zone. You're right, so it is a
• 39:07
  parody of the Dead Zone story, But I could have sworn guy I said
• 39:09
  something about the Twilight Zone episode as well. I mean it probably is as
• 39:13
  well. The Twilight Zone did a lot of did a lot of it inspired
• 39:16
  a lot of stories, Yeah, I mean it is so many of the
• 39:20
  tree House of Horrors as well. Like a few years ago, I ran
• 39:23
  a Halloween trivia night and then I just did one segment dedicated to only tree
• 39:29
  House of Horror trivia, and one running gag that I had was, oh,
• 39:34
  what's this segment about? Parody on? And it was just all the
• 39:36
  times they did the Twilight Zone, and it was like six of them,
• 39:39
  Like it's so many, especially in the early days, like you feel like
• 39:44
  you've watched them. For me, right, I felt like i'd watched The
• 39:46
  Shining even though I hadn't, because I've seen The Shinning so many times exactly,
• 39:51
  And you feel like you've seen the Twilight Zone even know you haven't,
• 39:52
  because you're like, oh, I've seen actually I haven't, but I've seen
• 39:57
  the Simpsons take it off so many times, and I kind of feel like
• 39:59
  I have. Yeah, well I remember, because like, yeah, the
• 40:02
  reason I watched Twilight Zone the movie was on my Patreon page over at patreon
• 40:07
  dot com. Slash side Quest Studios. Hah, smooth Segway. We have
• 40:10
  a podcast called Starring Springfield where we review movies that star the cast of The
• 40:15
  Simpsons, and in the say and yeah, Nancy cart Right is in Twilight
• 40:22
  Zone the movie. Also we get a little bit of Albert Brooks at the
• 40:23
  beginning as well. But yeah, Nancy cart Right is in the segment that's
• 40:28
  actually referenced by the Simpsons in bart Stream from Treehouse of Horror too, where
• 40:32
  it's you know, the kid with all the powers and you know, mind
• 40:36
  controls everybody. Yeah. Coincidentally enough, Nancy cart Right is in that segment
• 40:39
  in the movie, but she's not playing a little boy in this one.
• 40:43
  She's playing the tortured and tormented sister of Yeah, the little boy with all
• 40:46
  the powers. It's amazing how many things the Simpsons casts have been in that
• 40:52
  you just a lot of people have no idea, oh one hundred percent,
• 40:54
  especially hankers Aria. That's the thing we're discovering from the course of this podcast
• 40:59
  is that do was working on his backup plan all the while while what's going
• 41:02
  on, not that he needed one, but just in case, no,
• 41:06
  absolutely like just such a prolific and such an extended filmography. That dude,
• 41:12
  it's surprising. Well he was going to be Joey in Friends? Yeah,
• 41:16
  how about Johnny? Yeah, I'm pretty sure did he get He didn't then
• 41:21
  get offered the role of Channel. I'm pretty sure offered a role. And
• 41:23
  then either Matthew Perry or Matt LeBlanc like swooped in under like they go and
• 41:29
  I actually want this guy instand I'm pretty sure like he was. He almost
• 41:31
  got the cant right to play one of the boy Phoebe's. Yeah, he
• 41:36
  gave him the spot. Is Phoebe's boyfriend here, David, I want to
• 41:37
  say his name is? Which if you actually go back and watch that right,
• 41:40
  even if you're not a Friends fan, find it's on Netflix here in
• 41:44
  Australia. Friends and I do the podcast one about Friends with Nikola. It's
• 41:46
  still one of my favorite stories is his Hekazari story with with Lisa Gudro,
• 41:51
  Phoebe's character. It's just it's brilliant. I highly recommend anyone going, even
• 41:53
  if you're not a fan of Friends, go and watch that episode. You'll
• 41:55
  love it. It's is so fantastic in it. Yeah, I'll have to
• 42:00
  check it out. Well, maybe i'll review it on that podcast too.
• 42:02
  Yeah, you honestly, you'll love it. It's so it's it's actually quite
• 42:07
  sweet and beautiful. Yeah, I want to talk about I think we've both
• 42:12
  got this. We've touched on this as well in our our preparation. The
• 42:15
  wood chipper scene from this is a great segment, by the way. I
• 42:20
  love the idea of these marketing Basically the story is what's the name is it?
• 42:25
  What's the name of the actual how to get ahead and advertising? Yeah,
• 42:30
  so basically these advertising companies are hiring Homer to kill celebrities so they can
• 42:34
  use their image for their marketing campaigns. And yeah, it's it's just for
• 42:37
  a later for a teen treats of horror. I love it. I thought
• 42:42
  it was really really good. I hadn't seen it for god knows how long,
• 42:45
  and but yeah, Crusty being destroyed in that wood chipper. They didn't
• 42:49
  shy away from it. You're just seeing like being slowly lowered into this aoidenancy.
• 42:53
  He falls into it, but slowly going into the wood shiper and these
• 42:57
  body parts that is spewing out the other side. It's just like whoa r
• 43:00
  most No, this scene makes it look like they were holding back in Fargo,
• 43:04
  you know, like, yeah, this was really honestly, that's not
• 43:07
  even a joke, but this, honestly the Crusty woodchi percent. If you've
• 43:09
  never seen this and you love Gore Man, this is right up your alley.
• 43:13
  It's just anything where it's like a prolonged when the person knows a knows
• 43:17
  are about to die and it's just a slow painful death. I mean if
• 43:22
  everyone wants to go either and their sleep will go quickly. The idea of
• 43:25
  just a slow, tortuous, painful death, oh no things. Yeah,
• 43:31
  and it's it's an episode that ages very interestingly as well because it's taking on
• 43:38
  the story that you know, apparently Disney and Mickey Mouse were like cracking down
• 43:45
  on daycares and things that were just like painting pictures of their characters or whatever
• 43:50
  on the walls to just make the kids happy. And it's like, who
• 43:52
  do you think is making money? Like what why are you going after these
• 43:55
  people? This is nothing? And yeah, so sim here, Yeah in
• 44:00
  the daycare, the Krusty's Mob is just basically making people sand Blasty's image off
• 44:06
  their walls without unless they're gonna pay them. So it's a it's a very
• 44:09
  interesting thing now that yeah, Simpsons are under the thumb of the mouse.
• 44:13
  But yeah, is when you go back and watch all the old episodes where
• 44:16
  they sort of take the piss out Disney and it's like who got the last
• 44:20
  laugh? Oh in the movie as well, you know, oh, I'm
• 44:22
  the mask cover in an evil corporation. But yeah, so that the woodship
• 44:29
  is scene. If you've never seen that when that was from Triosa Horror nineteen,
• 44:31
  check out that one. But I also wanted to touch on these aren't
• 44:35
  necessarily gruesome, but the visuals of them always sort of like maybe uncomfortable.
• 44:38
  There's two of them. It's two choking deaths, right. The first one
• 44:43
  is Homer suffocating the alien at the end of the et parody in Triosa Horror
• 44:47
  eighteen, where he just puts the pillow over its mouth and just everyone just
• 44:51
  watches him suffocated to death. And then there's the millhouse getting choked by I
• 44:55
  think it's like Lisa's imaginary friend Rachel or something like that. Oh yeah,
• 45:00
  like a bag over his head and not in the car. Like those visuals
• 45:04
  just always I just felt very I felt very uncomfortable watching those ones. Just
• 45:07
  the suffocating of the alien. I was like, ah, I know I
• 45:12
  can sit there and watch and get shot and exploment into goo that I'm fine
• 45:15
  with, but just just suffocating him, I'm just like, someone help it.
• 45:20
  Yeah. No, there's a I think it's season twenty episode as well,
• 45:24
  where it's a very cute episode where Homer and Ned sort of team up
• 45:29
  and become bail bondsman and like bringing in people who are trying to skip bail
• 45:32
  and whatever, and but Homer's method of neutralizing their targets is to, yeah,
• 45:38
  put a bag over their head and suffocate them. And it's just like,
• 45:42
  oh, it's it's so horrible, like especially like when you're told from
• 45:45
  an early age, don't put a bag on your head. You know,
• 45:46
  it's any kind of like I think, shouldn't this one have a warning at
• 45:50
  the start? Yeah, you know what, the young boys or girls neutralizing
• 45:54
  their their siblings by putting a bag over their head. No on, there's
• 45:59
  this the I don't think you guys have gotten into it yet. It's where
• 46:02
  Lurline Lumpkin punk comes back to town. I've heard so much about it though,
• 46:07
  Yeah, yeah, say what you're will about the rest of the episode,
• 46:10
  but it just has this wild, detached opening segment where it's like it
• 46:16
  turns out it's Homer's dream, but like he very really yeah, apology so
• 46:23
  spoiling this fifteen year old episode, but yeah, it's like and hom a
• 46:30
  very like in a very like real feeling way, like yeah, puts a
• 46:35
  pillow over Grandpa Simpson's face and like suffocates and kills him. Like it is
• 46:39
  such a weird choice to open with this in an episode where it just had
• 46:44
  nothing to do with it and it did nothing for the story. It was
• 46:46
  almost just like a bit of filler that they just put in just because.
• 46:50
  And I remember when we were reviewed it, it was like, was this
• 46:52
  just a treehouse of horror segment that they got mixed in with their regular Simpsons
• 46:55
  episode? What the hell's going on? They did? They did that once
• 46:59
  in the in like the earliest seasons, though it wasn't necessarily a death,
• 47:02
  but it was that parody of like Homer with the Planet of the Doughnuts,
• 47:06
  remember that one where he's like having a weird which has nothing to do with
• 47:08
  the episode, but it's just like his random weird dream. Yeah. In
• 47:13
  the trial and everything as well, it's like eating his counsel. That's so
• 47:16
  good. Can we also touch on the dolphins because that one, Oh that
• 47:22
  was good. Yeah, that's that's one of the best ones of all time,
• 47:24
  I honestly feel, because I just I just loved how brutal these dolphins
• 47:30
  were. And yeah, dolphins are sort of like the puppy dogs of the
• 47:32
  sea. We all love dolphins, right, but just seeing them come back
• 47:36
  to get theirs, it's just like we kind of deserve it. Yeah,
• 47:39
  not absolutely, like it makes a very solid point very early on how much
• 47:45
  these animals must hate human interactions, and yeah, like makes a very very
• 47:51
  good point. And having like Lisa as the one to sort of make it
• 47:54
  and instigate this whole thing is just makes so much sense for her character.
• 47:59
  And then yeah, how the dolphins do choose to take revenge, Like they
• 48:02
  make them such a threat and they make them so evil, like it's a
• 48:08
  it's a really cool thing they've done, Like, and yeah, from I
• 48:12
  think the first one is like Lenny's night swimming drunken night swimming where he gets
• 48:15
  beaten to death. Yeah yeah, and then yeah, the big fight at
• 48:20
  the end, which the humans end up losing, got it. I remember
• 48:24
  that one being memorable to me because it was the first time I've ever heard
• 48:28
  an animated show say the words glory wholeh my god, what hey mam?
• 48:35
  What's a glory hole? A sneaky Simpsons I know, right, but yeah,
• 48:40
  so the deaths and nex, there's one where they dolphin goes through one
• 48:45
  of the characters, right, yeah, that's right, he gets it through
• 48:50
  the chest. I think that would make the most sense. Yeah. Yeah,
• 48:53
  but they're slamming comic book Guy's head in the door and there's beaten the
• 48:59
  ship out of a pool, and yeah, I just thought it was just
• 49:00
  the idea of the dolphins being these vicious characters. It just always makes it
• 49:04
  so memorable to me, just stands out. Yeah. Oh, it's like
• 49:07
  the crusty doll segment as well, there's something very unsettling about Yeah, cute
• 49:12
  thing goes evil like yeah, and it's a very good concept for a tree
• 49:16
  House of Horror, so rich for that. Yeah, that's why I say,
• 49:20
  like, because that's a take off of what is it called Trilogy of
• 49:23
  Terror, where it's this little doll that comes to life and that's terrifying.
• 49:28
  But like, I want to compare it to say, the Toy Story segment
• 49:30
  that we touched on earlier. I remember you. I'm pretty sure you mentioned
• 49:34
  it in one of your list to me, I'm just like, I watched
• 49:36
  that segment and funt nothing mm no, just it was so nothing. Nah,
• 49:43
  that whole tree House of Horror was a bit of a disappointment for me.
• 49:45
  Like maybe it was one of these things that it was kind of hyped
• 49:49
  up and a lot of people do favor it and it is why though,
• 49:54
  well, I mean, I think the most wild fact about it is that
• 49:57
  it was written by a former Simpsons podcaster in Julie from I can't even remember
• 50:04
  what their podcast is called anymore. It's been so long Round Springfield, Everything's
• 50:07
  Coming Up podcast. It changed a few times, but yeah, that,
• 50:12
  yeah, that toy story segment, Like, and you would have thought it'd
• 50:15
  be rich for that because yeah, Bart being a good sid cipher from Toy
• 50:19
  Story, Yeah, torturing the toys and how they take revenge, but yeah,
• 50:23
  not super effective on the yeah, gore and threaten everything. Yeah,
• 50:28
  there was no jokes in the entire so I was like, was there a
• 50:31
  single joke in this? Mmmm? Yeah, besides a rounding Newman parody which
• 50:37
  would do. It wasn't even funny, and yeah, Bart's sort of being
• 50:42
  frozen paralytic or whatever, and Marge crying at the end, like it was
• 50:47
  just yeah, one of those moments where yeah, I was like, oh,
• 50:50
  that's just sad. I didn't have fun. I didn't get scared.
• 50:54
  It wasn't like really a horror thing. But yeah, yeah, but no.
• 51:00
  One thing that did stand out to me in regards to recent Simpsons was
• 51:07
  the deaths of the Global Warm employees in the Death Note Parrioer that we talked
• 51:10
  about earlier. First of all, mister Burns getting his face burnt on the
• 51:14
  on the barbecue horrific. But then there's one where someone gets sucked. Have
• 51:20
  you seen the segment? Ah? I did, but I was extremely drunk
• 51:23
  at the time, so I do not memory. Basically, Lisa has she
• 51:27
  has the death Note the book so she can she writes in the book how
• 51:30
  someone's gonna die and then they'll die. Yeah, and she's kind of kill
• 51:32
  off these the employees of mister Burns's business and like one gets like sucked into
• 51:37
  like the blades the propellers of a is it not propeller? What's it?
• 51:42
  Is it? Of a? Plane. What is it that? Yeah,
• 51:44
  I think that's a propeller. Propeller, yeah, anyway of the plane.
• 51:46
  Just this go in just I'm just like alsa, it's instant, but just
• 51:51
  a visual to seeing this person go in that side and the other side is
• 51:53
  just smush, you know. Yeah, they one always just threats to me
• 51:57
  and just mister Burns just falling over and just your head first. Can you
• 52:01
  remember that seated where he sort of falls head first and his face lands on
• 52:05
  this on the barbecue. Oh no, no, I can't. Like I
• 52:08
  do remember the visuals being particularly striking, because yeah, for anyone that doesn't
• 52:14
  no Death Note, it's like a Japanese animation and anime a cartoon and Simpsons
• 52:21
  really go hard in on this style and like it barely resembles a Simpsons episode
• 52:25
  as well. But yeah, just as far as fluid animation goes, it
• 52:29
  is sensational. Again from what I remember, because I only like, like
• 52:34
  we watched it because like a friend of mine who's a massive Debt Note fan,
• 52:37
  was like, oh my god, you're a Simpsons fan. You still
• 52:38
  haven't seen this yet. Oh it's so good. I remember being pleased at
• 52:42
  the time, but I don't remember much else, I'm afraid. Do you
• 52:45
  find yourself watching the new Simpsons. It's it's hard this year because the last
• 52:50
  two seasons, we've been able to get them like three days late on Disney
• 52:52
  Plus. We usually get him on a Wednesday, when the States get him
• 52:54
  on the Sunday, so Monday I was like two days later. But this
• 52:59
  season they haven't been putting on Disney Plus yet. It's really bizarre. So
• 53:02
  VPN and all downloading it and watching it, but I feel like the last
• 53:06
  two seasons I've been keeping up. I've seen every episode of the last two
• 53:08
  seasons purely because they've just been easy to access, because for so long I
• 53:12
  felt like I don't know where to find new Simpsons anymore. This I downloaded
• 53:15
  it because channels did a pissball job of promoting when they were on and always
• 53:20
  on one week and they wouldn't be on for another six and they put another
• 53:22
  one on a different day. And do you find yourself catching up with recent
• 53:25
  Simpsons? Because I do, But this season's just been very difficult so far.
• 53:30
  Honestly, since the thirties. That sort of coinciding with yeah, me
• 53:36
  going full steam ahead on this podcast, my wanting to watch Simpsons outside of
• 53:42
  the podcast has lessened. It does that to you, doesn't it. It
• 53:45
  takes your desire to want to watch them just in your own time away,
• 53:49
  and it's sad. And that's what I said to Nicola recently. I was
• 53:51
  like, I should just be I used to watch the Simpsons all the time,
• 53:53
  because she watches Friends all the time. Right, I'm like, and
• 53:57
  since I started doing this podcast, I think it was a case of I
• 53:59
  didn't on to I wanted to go in fresh when I went back and revisited
• 54:01
  an episode and things like that. But it's sad though, because the Simpsons
• 54:06
  was my was almost like a friend, you know. I watched it all
• 54:08
  the time. It was my comfort viewing. And the kids they didn't really
• 54:13
  know what Simpsons was. And I was like, alleasantly five and he's barely
• 54:15
  seen a Simpsons episode. So now I've started putting them on more and more
• 54:19
  regularly, and the kids are now asking to watch the Simpsons and I'm just
• 54:22
  like, oh, okay, we're getting this train bake on track, guys,
• 54:27
  we're getting there. Well yeah, I mean similarly, for me,
• 54:30
  it used to be background noise, like sometimes just doing like chores or whatever.
• 54:34
  Like I would just throw on Simpsons or Futurama just like and not really
• 54:38
  watch them because like I knew the episodes so well, it just sort of
• 54:42
  quote along with them as I go. And then yeah, with commentaries as
• 54:45
  well. Petary's in Bedman every night, just commentaries on yeah, exactly,
• 54:49
  Like it's funny because yeah, they were like pretty much my segue into podcasting
• 54:53
  and getting into that, Like I truly believe, because yeah, I could
• 54:57
  stick the commentaries on do the dishes or whatever, not even look at the
• 55:00
  TV and know exactly where in the episode they were, because yeah, especially
• 55:05
  in those first fifteen seasons, I can recreate the episodes with my eyes closed,
• 55:09
  I bet. And yeah, that's sort of one of the things that
• 55:13
  like the caveats that I will say with the newer ones as well, is
• 55:15
  that we don't exactly have that repetition anymore. And because there's so much stuff
• 55:20
  out there, like you desire to watch the same thing that you might not
• 55:23
  have enjoyed the first time. Definitely, Yeah, there's so many many other
• 55:29
  things to go out there. Why would I want to, you know,
• 55:31
  try watching the same episode of The Simpsons three times? Like, and I
• 55:37
  will say that yeah, some of those episodes do improve on the second watch
• 55:39
  as well. Like, but yeah, as far as watching new Simpsons,
• 55:45
  like especially lately more in the last year, not so recently, but there
• 55:51
  has been a lot of you know, is Simpson's good again sort of post
• 55:53
  going round and sort of episodes that they mentioned as evidence of this, and
• 55:59
  like I can interrupt, FYI, straight from the horse's mouth of the guy
• 56:04
  who runs the show, is incredibly fucking offensive. Yeah, your videos and
• 56:08
  your things saying you think you're giving the Simpsons credit by saying they're actually kind
• 56:14
  of good again. What you're saying in saying that is they weren't good for
• 56:19
  so long and now are they good again? Maybe, Like I just the
• 56:22
  people behind the show just find that incredibly offensive. Just wanted to throw that
• 56:25
  out there. Yeah, well, I mean that's why I sort of said
• 56:29
  it in quotes then as well, because I feel like these articles are more
• 56:32
  like trying to generate clickbait and like headlines and sort of clickable content. You
• 56:37
  know, what I think I try to do with their Facebook page is that
• 56:39
  I try to make it people realize that we're not just like a page just
• 56:43
  post Simpsons memes where run by a guy who loves the Simpsons, and like,
• 56:46
  I put up a photo recently of all my Simpsons vhs that I had
• 56:50
  when I was a kid, and I've surprisingly everyone got confused, IM like,
• 56:52
  we didn't have DVDs in the nineties, and I was like, they're
• 56:54
  videotapes. No, they're not the DVD's. I'm like, how soon we
• 57:00
  forget? I'm like, what, look at the picture. Yeah, they're
• 57:04
  too thin to be video tastes like mad woman. Yeah, argue with me
• 57:09
  the person who owned them? What? Yeah? And I had got to
• 57:14
  the point where I had to put a video of me filming them, and
• 57:16
  still some guys were just like, nah, still looks doesn't look legit to
• 57:20
  me. I'm like whatever, but I try to make fourfing a discount be
• 57:24
  a page that's clearly run by a Simpsons fan, not to someone who's just
• 57:28
  trying to like you're saying capitalize on the title of is the Simpsons good again?
• 57:31
  Or just just you know, you get your websites like, I'm sure
• 57:35
  there's people are cracked and things like that who love the Simpsons, but they
• 57:37
  just love their fucking top ten this and Top ten that thirty six times Homer
• 57:42
  was a good father and that kind of thing, you know. Yeah,
• 57:45
  But I mean, I will say objectively, I think since season thirty one
• 57:50
  there has been a market improvement in the show, and it just feels like
• 57:53
  there has been a bit a lot more effort into creating proper stories and like
• 58:00
  really accentuating the flow and not just making like a random assortment of shit happening.
• 58:06
  I can tell you why off the air ahlusive exclusive, but yeah,
• 58:14
  especially in the tree House of Horrors, which I think are the ones that
• 58:17
  do get shared, because I mean especially I think it was last year or
• 58:21
  the year before they did an entire it parody for an entire episode that was
• 58:24
  sort of separate from a Treehouse of Horror, And Halloween of Horror is another
• 58:28
  one, which is fantastic, fucking excellent episode of the best episodes honestly of
• 58:31
  the last fifteen years. Yeah, honestly, Like, yeah, Halloween of
• 58:36
  Horror is just such an achievement. I think, like it almost makes me
• 58:40
  sad that they didn't try and go for a non Treehouse Halloween episode again.
• 58:45
  But then also at the same time, I really liked what they did there,
• 58:49
  so like I don't bemoan them for not like that's the one time.
• 58:52
  And that was written by Carolyn Amine, who's coming on the show in the
• 58:54
  weekly right. Also she wrote the latest episode mid Childhood Night's Dream. I
• 59:01
  am not exaggerating everybody. When that episode finished, I groped my heart and
• 59:06
  cried, and I have not cried at a Simpsons episode. Last my c
• 59:12
  SIMS episode was when I rewatched and Making Makes three after having Holly, and
• 59:16
  it was like, you know, I wasn't after It was actually like a
• 59:20
  year ago because I quit my job at my previous employer and I took a
• 59:24
  chance on myself to try to try this podcast thing, and you know,
• 59:29
  sort of a bit sort of scared, and it's just the fear that goes
• 59:30
  into that of a wanted to take a chance on yourself, but b what
• 59:34
  am we going to do if it fails? Right? And luckily I had
• 59:36
  Nicola to back me up. She's kicking goals at her job and things like
• 59:37
  that, and it's paid off with the podcast thing, and but just seeing
• 59:42
  that, you know, he does everything for his daughter, and I'm just
• 59:45
  like, oh, like when we become a father, that that ending just
• 59:47
  hits you so hard. But honestly, the end of this latest episode and
• 59:51
  mid Childhood Night's Dream unbelievable. So basically it's a take, it's not taken,
• 59:55
  but the story is that Marge is fearing that her kids are growing up
• 1:00:00
  and they're not her little babies anymore. And there's one scene where like Marge
• 1:00:06
  grabs Bart's hand because he's heard it or whatever. She goes, when did
• 1:00:08
  your hands get so big? He's like, I don't know. She's like,
• 1:00:10
  I guess I just don't hold hands all that often anymore. And then
• 1:00:15
  there's something that happens at the end. Oh my god. Man, if
• 1:00:17
  you can get access to that episode and you haven't watched it yet, do
• 1:00:21
  so. It is unbelievable. And Carolyn wrote that episode as well. So
• 1:00:23
  we're gonna be doing a deep dive on that episode because there's a really lovely
• 1:00:27
  story behind it. Oh wonderful. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that.
• 1:00:30
  Yeah, it's the parts that I do, like, yeah, feel
• 1:00:35
  so good when Yeah, Simpsons do really show that they are still trying in
• 1:00:38
  these days and like do sort of those stories that really delve deep into those
• 1:00:43
  concepts And yeah, that and Halloween of Horror, the idea that Yeah,
• 1:00:46
  Lisa being scared and Homer having to comfort that is while also being scared himself.
• 1:00:52
  These are being scared as well, having to admit to his kid that
• 1:00:54
  he's scared. Yeah. Yeah, just such real shit that, Yeah,
• 1:01:00
  that just happens to come through the cipher of these yellow cartoon characters. Yeah,
• 1:01:06
  And I know it's patronizing to sort of say it feels like they're trying
• 1:01:08
  more now, but it really, it just does. It felt like for
• 1:01:10
  a while there that they were just making shows, where here it feels like
• 1:01:15
  they're treating it just I know that's not what happened, but it just comes
• 1:01:20
  across now that each episode they've put just so much more thought into it,
• 1:01:24
  and there's a real love and passion behind the show. Again, And honestly,
• 1:01:28
  if you haven't watched the last couple of seasons, do it, because
• 1:01:30
  there are way more good episodes they're not in the recent seasons. Yeah,
• 1:01:36
  and from what I've understood as well, they've brought in some newer, fresher
• 1:01:39
  riders into the team as well, and I think that'd yeah, just rejuvenated
• 1:01:44
  the show quite a bit. Yease. Speaking of a new passions that seems
• 1:01:50
  to be coming through with the Simpsons is the Trance of Horror. Last year
• 1:01:53
  thirty three, So last year it was the year before it was. Last
• 1:01:58
  year wasn't thirty three, it was last year. It was the one Simpsons
• 1:02:00
  World that written by Matt Salomon. Have you seen Simpsons World? I don't
• 1:02:04
  think so. You haven't seen Simpsons World? Wow? We So basically it's
• 1:02:08
  a take off of West World and it's people. There's a theme park that's
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  all of the classic Simpsons moments that people can go and relive their classic Simpsons
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  moments but be like they're all animatronic Simpsons. It's so fucking good. But
• 1:02:22
  it's just filled with like hundreds of classic Simpsons references. Like it starts off
• 1:02:25
  with them being on the monorail and things like that, and there's all these
• 1:02:29
  little like Easter eggs in there. But Matt Summer message mean, he was
• 1:02:32
  like, hey, do you know you're in the latest Simpsons episode. And
• 1:02:35
  I was like what, You're like, yeah, yeah, it's like you're
• 1:02:37
  gonna really lit the lates Simpsons episode. And I'm like why and he's like,
• 1:02:39
  I know, just check it out. I'm like okay. And in
• 1:02:44
  the episode there's two Aussie super fans who who have gone to Simpsons World And
• 1:02:50
  he was like, you know, because of you guys down there, four
• 1:02:52
  figure discount inspired us to do this bit. And I was like, cool,
• 1:02:57
  Oh that's amazing. Oh that's awesome, well done. Yeah yeah,
• 1:03:00
  So check out Simpsons Well because if you haven't checked that one out, it's
• 1:03:02
  just a love letter to classic Simpsons. I can't believe you haven't seen Simpsons
• 1:03:06
  World. Who. I did a whole video on YouTube about all the references
• 1:03:08
  in the in the segment, it's it's it's honestly one of my favorite Treets
• 1:03:13
  of Horrors of all time segments. Oh awesome, Well, yeah, that's
• 1:03:15
  my afternoon sorted. Check out six as well. You'll really really enjoy it.
• 1:03:20
  But one more death that I wanted to touch on, and it comes
• 1:03:22
  from my favorite Treots of Horror segment of all time. I know, and
• 1:03:27
  it's not part of Trees of Horror six as a trilogy. Tree of Horror
• 1:03:30
  six is my favorite, but this is my favorite Tres of Horror segment of
• 1:03:32
  all time, and it's one you've already touched on. It's not me a
• 1:03:35
  cafeteria. I always wanted to touch on poor little Millhouse falling into the blender.
• 1:03:39
  My god, Like, what a visual the moment where we were like,
• 1:03:45
  oh, how are the Simpsons kids gonna get out of this whacky adventure?
• 1:03:50
  Oh they might not. Yeah, oh shit, I'm sure nothing will
• 1:03:57
  happen to the Simpsons children. And I thought they did that scene so well,
• 1:04:02
  particularly Milhouse's death right they left it to the very last second before they
• 1:04:05
  cut away, where for some reason, they did it so well that in
• 1:04:09
  my brain you did see him get destroyed. You're like, oh, yeah,
• 1:04:14
  that time you see Milhouse fall to the blender, we don't really see
• 1:04:15
  him get killed, but they do not say well that you almost feel like
• 1:04:18
  you do. Oh absolutely, Like just the way that they drew the fear
• 1:04:24
  on Millhouse's face, and like doing it for like again using the animation techniques
• 1:04:29
  that they had when they, especially compared today, had such a limited palette
• 1:04:32
  of yeah, making the choices of to shoot it from the perspective of the
• 1:04:36
  blender and making it look huge and making those blender blades look massive, and
• 1:04:41
  then yeah, having Millhouse coming forward and falling into it like that is really
• 1:04:45
  affecting shit. And because it is the idea of falling to my death just
• 1:04:49
  terrifies me. But knowing it to fall into a blender, would you rather
• 1:04:53
  go feet first or headfirst into a blender? I don't know, Man,
• 1:04:58
  it looks like it's all over with pretty qu quickly, and I'm sure that
• 1:05:01
  even a half a second difference of getting minced in a blender. Yeah,
• 1:05:05
  I think I'd rather go ahead first if it saved myself even a half a
• 1:05:09
  second of torturous spain. But I wonder if you didn't feel it, you
• 1:05:13
  probably would for for if his feet first, you probably would feel it for
• 1:05:15
  a second. Right, Yeah, I know when they were talking about the
• 1:05:17
  whole when they're sub imploded earlier this year, they were like, they wouldn't
• 1:05:20
  have felt anything. It would have gone there and then they weren't so quick.
• 1:05:25
  But I feel if you're falling into a blender, you're feeling that shit
• 1:05:28
  for a bit first, right, I reckon? So maybe your body does
• 1:05:30
  something with adrenaline and shock, but I don't know. It also makes me
• 1:05:33
  think of that South Park bit with that teacher who goes to commit suicide and
• 1:05:38
  the band saw and first goes, oh god, that's terrible. First,
• 1:05:43
  that would like, yeah, we review that for going down to southwik If
• 1:05:48
  you're a fan of south check out my South Park podcast, Golden Down to
• 1:05:53
  South Park, available for free wherever you find your podcast, Spotify and all
• 1:05:57
  that, and you get exclusive skip Aheaded reviews on our Patreon channel, where
• 1:06:00
  we have just reviewed Scott Tenneman Must Die. Oh a classic, bona fide
• 1:06:05
  classic, that one. It's arguably the best episode ever. It's sort of
• 1:06:10
  like the episode that sort of the better episodes. So there are better episodes,
• 1:06:14
  but they wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for Scott Tenemon Must Die.
• 1:06:15
  That was where they realized, oh shit, we can actually run wild with
• 1:06:18
  this show. If people are willing to buy that Cartman is capable of this,
• 1:06:23
  then then they'll buy anything. Yeah, and especially to get Radiohead on
• 1:06:28
  board is just so inherently funny cancer of the ass, like, because I'm
• 1:06:33
  pretty sure they refuse Simpsons at one point as well, Like I think I
• 1:06:36
  were one of the very few people like Pearl Jam who have actually refused being
• 1:06:41
  a guest star on the Simpsons. But Sting was meant to be Bruce Springsteen.
• 1:06:45
  Oh really in the Radio Barred episode. Yeah, it was originally going
• 1:06:49
  to be Bruce Springsteen. He turned them down, so they got Sting instead.
• 1:06:51
  It turned out even better because Sting used to be he's a dig holes
• 1:06:55
  for a living. Oh is that right? Oh there we go. Yeah,
• 1:07:00
  in training for the role then he had been indeed, yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:02
  home. Is that all the gruesome deaths we're going to talk about here
• 1:07:04
  today? Is any more? You want to flick over before me? I
• 1:07:08
  will got this episode of four Thing of Discount extra. Yeah, I will
• 1:07:10
  throw one quick honorable mention to don't have a cow mankind. I didn't pick
• 1:07:15
  it for like the original list because like there isn't one sort of death that
• 1:07:19
  sticks out into it. So basically what it is, it's a parody of
• 1:07:23
  twenty eight Days Later where Camp Brockman Zombie one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:27
  Camp Brockman. It's a tainted krusty burger. I think it was the
• 1:07:30
  burger was like cow squared or something that it was made from cow fed cow
• 1:07:34
  and cow sed cow. Yeah that's what it was, and yeah that's how
• 1:07:36
  they made it. So yeah, it's from Treehouse of Treehouse of Ora twenty
• 1:07:41
  from season twenty one, and yeah, it's just a really well done segment.
• 1:07:45
  Like the whole thing has like a different color template to it, where
• 1:07:49
  it's a lot more gray and really moody. And yeah, the zombies in
• 1:07:54
  this one so much more visceral and vicious, Like this is one of the
• 1:07:59
  benefits of HD era of the Simpsons that, yeah, they can indulge some
• 1:08:03
  of these more animation choices, whereas the zombies in the I think it was
• 1:08:09
  the season four Treehouse of Horror or whatever it was Darzy for Zombies. Darzy
• 1:08:13
  for Zombies was three three. Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
• 1:08:16
  so that one was a bit more cartoony and just a bit more sort of
• 1:08:20
  they just take a bite and chunk out of like this one, Like,
• 1:08:24
  yeah, there's a lot more frames per second, so there's a lot more
• 1:08:27
  done in the animation, and they're right, a lot more frothy zombies,
• 1:08:30
  like they're a lot more like people turned mad rather than a zombie sort of
• 1:08:35
  archetype sort of thing. Yeah, so I really love that segment. And
• 1:08:39
  yeah, Appo driving that giant truck with the cowcatcher on front. Yeah,
• 1:08:44
  there's some really good shit there. You're supposed to wait for me at the
• 1:08:46
  bottom. Yeah, I can't believe we've missed one. When that we both
• 1:08:53
  discussed in prep for this episode. Oh, what's that scho Bob killing Bart?
• 1:08:59
  Ah, Yeah, it's because I hate this segment. It was on
• 1:09:01
  the level of Homer eating himself in a sense that it wasn't necessarily gory,
• 1:09:05
  but just really uncomfortable. Yeah. Look, because you have to take it
• 1:09:10
  with the context of the whole story of Sideshow Bob wanting to kill Bart.
• 1:09:15
  I guess my problem with this is it's just kind of kind of the Scratchy
• 1:09:19
  finally gets itchy sort of thing, where like, yeah, the joke where
• 1:09:23
  they had that in an episode was just yeah that we didn't get to see
• 1:09:27
  it, and I don't know that we got to see it, and we
• 1:09:30
  got to see side show Bob catch Bart so much it was it lacked any
• 1:09:33
  sort of sense of satisfaction within that story and just being like yeah, fanfic
• 1:09:39
  and like, yeah, just really boring. Again, it harkens back to
• 1:09:42
  a different Itchy and Scratchy carto in the one where he's like cloning all the
• 1:09:45
  scratches and then killing them and sending them straight to the killing machine. Yeah
• 1:09:49
  and yeah, so without the context of the whole side Show Bob story,
• 1:09:54
  it's just watching an adult kill a child. Over and over again. I
• 1:09:57
  did like the line of I've spent twenty four years trying to to kill a
• 1:10:00
  ten year old boy or something like that. But yeah, it's I remember
• 1:10:03
  being really excited for that one too. I remember feeling like, oh,
• 1:10:06
  this is gonna be an awesome he finally kills but it feels like not on
• 1:10:10
  the same level. But it kind of gave me the feeling of, like
• 1:10:12
  Barton Lisa was, this is whe where Itchy Scruthy finally gets itchy. Yeah,
• 1:10:15
  it's like it's finally gonna happen, and then when you get it,
• 1:10:16
  you're like, uh, yeah, maybe we shouldn't have got it. Yeah,
• 1:10:25
  this is this isn't fun for anybody, but anyway, No, it
• 1:10:28
  has been fun talking to you, sir. Yes, no, this has
• 1:10:30
  been a great little session checking out some of our most gruesome moments from the
• 1:10:35
  Treehouse of Horrors. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I'm going have to have
• 1:10:39
  you on more regularly. Could we do another Halloween themed one? Do you
• 1:10:41
  think? I mean, this is the Halloween season. What would be another
• 1:10:44
  Halloween themed one? Though we talked about the gory deaths that's sort of like
• 1:10:45
  the The Key of Trees isn't it that the gory deaths? Yeah, I
• 1:10:50
  suppose so. I mean they do a lot of parodies in this one as
• 1:10:55
  well, so like maybe their best parodies or h right in listeners Simpsons Mailbag
• 1:11:00
  at gmail dot com and offer some suggestions for Ali and I to cover future
• 1:11:03
  topics. That doesn't have to be Halloween ones, just future episodes. We'd
• 1:11:05
  love to hear what topics you'd like us to cover here on four finger Discount.
• 1:11:11
  Yeah. I mean been studying Simpsons my whole life, and been studying
• 1:11:15
  it very heavily for the last seven years doing the Simpsons Index. So yeah,
• 1:11:18
  I feel like between us we've got a fair amount of Simpsons knowledge that
• 1:11:21
  we'd be happy to take on any topic you throw at us, just in
• 1:11:26
  case there's anybody out there who doesn't know what Elliott does. When you mentioned
• 1:11:28
  the Simpsons Index, you want to just give us the shill, give us
• 1:11:30
  the spiel. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'm a host of the
• 1:11:33
  Simpsons Index. We have different guests on every week to talk about various Simpsons
• 1:11:39
  episodes. We used to review three at a time, but we caught up
• 1:11:43
  to the series. So yeah, we've reviewed the first nineteen seasons of the
• 1:11:45
  show and most of the rest of them. And so yeah, now we're
• 1:11:48
  reviewing one episode at a time again, Yeah, different guests every week.
• 1:11:53
  And yeah, we've actually reviewed the first thirty two Treehouse of Horrors, so
• 1:11:59
  yeah, you're have to wait until we review the next thirty two tree House
• 1:12:01
  of Horrors. But yeah, go check them out the Simpsons index dot com.
• 1:12:04
  It's a great time. Make sure you do that. I'll put the
• 1:12:06
  link for that in the description of this pob. Like I said, guys,
• 1:12:10
  Simpsons mailbag at gmail dot com, let us know some future topics for
• 1:12:14
  us to cover here on fourfing a discount extra because each week we're gonna be
• 1:12:15
  discussing something Simpsons based. And like I was saying to you off air the
• 1:12:20
  other day, it's like I thought I was getting bored of reviewing episodes of
• 1:12:24
  The Simpsons season eighteen, but it's just like people aren't as interested in season
• 1:12:27
  eighteen episodes as they are at the Golden era. So it's like and the
• 1:12:30
  reason I started this podcast was to capture the vibe of being of ANUE mates
• 1:12:34
  and talking what it was like being drawing up in the nineties and talking about
• 1:12:38
  the Simpsons when it was the biggest show on television. The excitement of talking
• 1:12:40
  about the Simpsons. I wanted to recapture that and find light minded Simpsons fans,
• 1:12:44
  which is what I'm trying to do here with Fourthing Discount Extra is just
• 1:12:46
  recapture that that excitement of just talking about your love of the show. You
• 1:12:50
  know, yeah, absolutely, because that you know, Simpsons quotes and sattings
• 1:12:57
  and everything that was like currency on the play. You know, we traded
• 1:13:00
  in those sayings and quotes and everything, and like, yeah, it's built
• 1:13:05
  a language, and I think it's got a unique fandom in Australia as well.
• 1:13:11
  And I love like because yeah, like I said, I got rotating
• 1:13:13
  guests on my show as well. It's like and often it's the first time
• 1:13:16
  I'm meeting these people on the podcast, and it's like having this common ground
• 1:13:20
  is just so lovely to yeah, kick off wonderful friendships like this inde.
• 1:13:25
  So make sure you check out the Simpsons index. Like I said, link
• 1:13:27
  is in the description of this pub But thank you guys for checking out this
• 1:13:30
  episode of four Figured this Gain Extras to Elliot, J and Neil, thank
• 1:13:32
  you so much for joining me. It's been a hell of a good time
• 1:13:33
  and forget. Also check out a Good Day w podcast where we talk about
• 1:13:36
  professional wrastling, don't we. Oh yeah, all the happening is going on
• 1:13:41
  in AW. It's an exciting time over there, so yeah, go check
• 1:13:45
  that out at Good Day EWRY. Thanks again, guys, and we'll catch
• 1:13:47
  you guys later. Sh