Latest / Caught on the Mike... / MMA WELTERWEIGHT- M, A, YAH II
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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Disclaimer, the views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: Listener discretion is advised.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: Joining me on the five pastor.
- 1:03SPEAKER_00: We have a great conversation about his journey and what's in store for us on this particular fight card.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: Plus much more.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Mic.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, as you all know, I have fighters from all over the world on my show.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: I spend a lot of time with fighters from Denver.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: So it is awesome when I get to talk to somebody from my home area of Nebraska.
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: I'm in Lincoln, but my next fighter is from Omaha, Nebraska.
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: MIA, the second.
- 1:45SPEAKER_00: How the heck are you, man?
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: I'm doing great.
- 1:47SPEAKER_00: How are you doing, Mike?
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: Good, good.
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: I am excited for your next fight, June 7th, 2024, at Liberty First Credit Union Arena in Ralston, formerly known as the Ralston Arena.
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: I wish they would have just left it as the Ralston Arena.
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: That was a lot easier to say than that.
- 2:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 2:09SPEAKER_02: When I say Liberty First Credit Union, people don't really know I say Ralston Arena, and they're like, oh, okay, I'll be there.
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: Well, man, I tell you, Henry highly recommended you to do the show.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: I've had a few other fighters that uh have fought for Dynasty on my show a few other times, and we always have a great conversation.
- 2:29SPEAKER_00: I like talking to the hometown guys.
- 2:32SPEAKER_00: So without any further ado, why don't you introduce yourself and let's talk about your origin story, how you got into fighting, and where you plan on going next.
- 2:42SPEAKER_02: Yes, my name is M.
- 2:44SPEAKER_02: II.
- 2:44SPEAKER_02: Um, I got into fighting.
- 2:46SPEAKER_02: Uh, I was always interested in fighting at a young age.
- 2:48SPEAKER_02: My dad got me into boxing about six years old.
- 2:51SPEAKER_02: We used to always watch Muhammad Ali and stuff.
- 2:54SPEAKER_02: He was a big boxing fan.
- 2:55SPEAKER_02: I used to want to be a boxer.
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: Uh and then about he got me lifting weights, working out about four years old, maybe three.
- 3:04SPEAKER_02: Uh, and then after that, um, been kind of working out my whole life.
- 3:07SPEAKER_02: Uh, and then I got into MMA.
- 3:10SPEAKER_02: I watched uh, I think it was either Demetrius Johnson or John Jones watched um fighting on TV.
- 3:15SPEAKER_02: And I thought that looked really cool.
- 3:17SPEAKER_02: And so about 12 or 13, I got into training MMA.
- 3:21SPEAKER_02: I trained for a few months, and my coach was telling me that I should start doing uh wrestling if I want to make a career out of fighting.
- 3:29SPEAKER_02: So I after that I started wrestling in high school with kind of the end goal of being an MMA fighter.
- 3:35SPEAKER_02: Wrestling was never really something that I really loved, unfortunately.
- 3:39SPEAKER_02: Um probably would have done a lot better if I would have.
- 3:42SPEAKER_02: Um but I always wanted to do MMA, so I wrestled from eighth grade to my freshman year of college.
- 3:47SPEAKER_02: I wrestled Iowa Western and then I would box, I would go to the boxing gym during the offseasons um in high school.
- 3:54SPEAKER_02: And then after that, um after I wrestled in college, I wanted to start working.
- 3:59SPEAKER_02: Um so that kind of ended my wrestling career, and then I got into working and I met uh Carlos Trinidad, um, who's a beared oakal fighter in Omaha now.
- 4:09SPEAKER_02: He's also a prime MA fighter.
- 4:10SPEAKER_02: He told me to come over to his gym at Skywalker.
- 4:13SPEAKER_02: I knew um a couple guys that trained there.
- 4:15SPEAKER_02: I knew Roger Lynn.
- 4:16SPEAKER_02: So I said, yeah, let's let's um I'm gonna come through.
- 4:19SPEAKER_02: And then um I've been there ever since for about four and a half years.
- 4:22SPEAKER_00: So that's amazing.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: I was gonna ask you if you've been training at Skywalker the whole time.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: For those of you that don't know, Skywalker 101 Boxing Academy is the home of Anthony Lionhart Smith.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: He trains there still.
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, did you get to train with Anthony at all?
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have been for a while.
- 4:40SPEAKER_02: Um, I remember training with him the very first time.
- 4:43SPEAKER_02: Um, he's picking me apart.
- 4:45SPEAKER_02: Uh he told me he told me I had some promise though.
- 4:48SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, it told me there was levels, and he's always been a good good training partner, and I learned a lot from Anthony.
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: He's a good human being.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: I got a uh story I'll kind of throw in there.
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: When I first started this podcast, I'm you're gonna be like the 136th episode of this show.
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: So I've been doing it for about four years since the heat of the pandemic.
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: And knowing that Anthony was from our area, I just shot my shot one time, commented on an Instagram comment, and I'm like, man, you should jump on my podcast sometime.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: And this was not terribly long after like the Jones fight and the Tejera fight.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, uh one o'clock in the morning, I wake up to a DM in Instagram, and it was Anthony Smith saying, Yeah, let's do this, let's do this.
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: And I I just I thought that that was one of the uh greatest acts of kindness that I've experienced as a podcaster, and I think that speaks to who he is as a person, and I would imagine who he is as somebody you get to train with.
- 5:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's a very nice guy.
- 5:57SPEAKER_02: Um, I think him doing that for you kind of just shows he he treats everybody the same from what I've seen.
- 6:03SPEAKER_02: Um, he doesn't come in thinking he's a big shot or anything.
- 6:06SPEAKER_02: He will take time, talk to everybody, answer questions.
- 6:10SPEAKER_02: Um, very friendly guy, and I think the way you treat people that you don't necessarily need that aren't you don't get anything from, it shows a lot if you treat those people nice.
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of a repetitive theme on my podcast when I talk to a lot of fighters, is I find that, and I've experienced that in the five, ten minutes I've been speaking with you as well.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: You guys tend to be some of the most well-measured people.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: And I'd like to know, is that a result of you getting that aggression out in your training, in your sparring, and through the career of MMA?
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: I believe so.
- 6:52SPEAKER_02: Um I think wrestling had a lot to do with it too, but it's very similar.
- 6:56SPEAKER_02: You know, wrestling's a part of MMA, yeah, I would say.
- 6:59SPEAKER_02: Um, just training, being disciplined um can really tame a lot of those, a lot of stuff.
- 7:05SPEAKER_02: You know, I got a lot of friends, they tell me they get into bar fights and stuff.
- 7:08SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't go out to the bars too much, um, but never been in a street fight since I've been over the age of 18, and it just blows my mind to hear all these stories about guys getting into street fights and starting street fights, and it's just wild to me.
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: It's hard to even get me to that point where I'm gonna be ready to swing on somebody.
- 7:25SPEAKER_02: I'm not, I don't want to fight anybody for free at this point.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: And ladies and gentlemen, you can get your tickets for this dynasty event through nitrotickets.com.
- 7:36SPEAKER_00: Or even better idea, whenever you look at the link for this podcast episode, follow my friend on Instagram, hit him up for tickets because that's what it's all about, is getting paid, man.
- 7:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure, yeah.
- 7:50SPEAKER_02: And as a pro in Omaha, I get paid for my ticket sales.
- 7:54SPEAKER_02: So I always trying to hustle those tickets.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: Um well, I'm trying to hustle them for you, brother.
- 7:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I appreciate it.
- 8:00SPEAKER_02: I appreciate that, Mike.
- 8:01SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can get them online, and if you select me as a reference, I get the same percentage as if you bought them from me in person.
- 8:07SPEAKER_02: So you can always reach out on Instagram or wherever, um, get a hold of me, and I'll I can meet up and get you those tickets, or you can get them online and just select me as your reference.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: So let's talk about the future.
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: You had an undefeated amateur record, and you just recently suffered your first loss in LFA.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: Um you know, I'm sure there were some lessons learned because that just happened, what, two weeks ago, if that.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not even two weeks.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: So I'm sure you've already kind of had to stomach the lessons learned from that.
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: And I know from talking to you a few minutes ago that this is something you want to see through long term.
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: What are your future aspirations and what are some lessons learned, even though it's just recent, over the last couple of weeks?
- 8:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, yeah, that's my main goal with this.
- 9:00SPEAKER_02: I want to be one of the greats.
- 9:01SPEAKER_02: Um, I wanna I want to win the belt, I want to hold the belt, I wanna defend it many times.
- 9:07SPEAKER_02: I wanna I wanna do great things in this sport, I want to be remembered.
- 9:11SPEAKER_02: Um but uh so this last loss, it taught me a lot.
- 9:16SPEAKER_02: Um I had a lot of success in the fight.
- 9:20SPEAKER_02: I was arguably winning the fight, and then um I made a dumb mistake that costed me to fight.
- 9:25SPEAKER_02: And um it it's tough uh because when you take a loss, then you want to train hard or you might want to change things around, but it's not like I got beat up or I got outclassed and I didn't belong in there.
- 9:39SPEAKER_02: So for me, there's a side of me that wants to ramp things up and do a lot more than I already was, um, or maybe make some adjustments to my style.
- 9:50SPEAKER_02: But I have to remember that I was having success in the fight, I made a dumb mistake, I have to adjust from that mistake.
- 9:56SPEAKER_02: Um, it's not um like I need to change everything.
- 10:00SPEAKER_02: That's what's kind of been tough for me.
- 10:02SPEAKER_02: Um, but taking the loss, um it is what it is, you know.
- 10:08SPEAKER_02: Um you just take it and you just keep moving forward.
- 10:11SPEAKER_02: I'm definitely happy to have an opportunity to fight again in a few weeks.
- 10:15SPEAKER_02: That way um I'm able to keep training for something and I'm motivated instead of just having to sit on this loss for a while.
- 10:22SPEAKER_02: I didn't take any injuries in the fight.
- 10:24SPEAKER_02: I didn't get hit a ton, um, got hit maybe five, six times um all over my body.
- 10:30SPEAKER_02: Um and it would it's it would suck to be injured and have to sit out for a while.
- 10:37SPEAKER_02: I'm definitely very thankful and blessed that I'm healthy and I'm can go again in a few weeks.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: I love that, man.
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: A lot of people, when I ask them that question, can some sometimes that can be an uncomfortable question to answer?
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: It can be an uncomfortable question to even ask, but a lot of people kind of repeat the same sentiments.
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: You really don't learn things from winning all the time, you learn things from setbacks, from kind of embracing the hard shit when it happens.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:07SPEAKER_00: So six months from now, let's uh kind of fast forward.
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: Uh June 7th comes and goes.
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: You have another win under your belt.
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: Where do you see you taking this career from Omaha?
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: Are you still um gonna try and explore new opportunities with organizations like LFA?
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: Do you have like a six-month, a one-year, two-year type plan?
- 11:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the plan is to fight uh uh very often and maybe on the Dana White Contender series next year.
- 11:40SPEAKER_02: That's the plan.
- 11:42SPEAKER_02: Um we were trying to get to six and over or something by next summer.
- 11:45SPEAKER_02: That's when the Dana White Contender series starts back up.
- 11:48SPEAKER_02: It is this summer, but I don't have enough fights right now.
- 11:51SPEAKER_02: And with taking the loss, it it might set me back a little bit, but I don't think it sets me back too much.
- 11:56SPEAKER_02: Um I put on an entertaining fight.
- 11:58SPEAKER_02: Um just gotta keep training and keep getting better.
- 12:03SPEAKER_02: Um, that's all you can do.
- 12:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, take it on the trend.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: So I'm assuming you're a fan of fighting.
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: Who are some of the guys that you like to watch?
- 12:13SPEAKER_02: Um, I really like the greets.
- 12:15SPEAKER_02: I like John Jones a lot.
- 12:16SPEAKER_02: He's one of the first fighters I started watching when I got into the sport.
- 12:19SPEAKER_02: Kabietin or Marga Midoff is uh he's I really like watching his wrestling and learning stuff from that.
- 12:24SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: Sure.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: So is there somebody that you haven't had the opportunity to train with yet that you would love to train with?
- 12:33SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's a lot of guys I'd like to train with.
- 12:36SPEAKER_02: Um I'm gonna give you one top in my head, but gotcha.
- 12:39SPEAKER_02: Um I really haven't trained a whole lot of other places besides Skywalker.
- 12:43SPEAKER_02: I trained in Hawaii a few months ago.
- 12:46SPEAKER_02: Um, that was a lot of fun.
- 12:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah, to go down there and see their style.
- 12:50SPEAKER_02: Um, I definitely would like to have the opportunities to cross-train a lot more, but it's right, it's gonna be kind of difficult sometimes with training schedules, and I've been fighting pretty often, so I'm pretty much always in a fight camp.
- 13:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 13:03SPEAKER_02: And but yeah, maybe go down to Denver.
- 13:05SPEAKER_02: I know I have some teammates down there.
- 13:07SPEAKER_02: I know Anthony Smith, my teammate, does a lot of his fight camps down in Denver, so I could go down there with him sometime, maybe.
- 13:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I talked to a lot of my friends um based at a high-altitude martial arts in Colorado.
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: And some of them that are not from the area, not native to Colorado, I say, so what's it like training in that altitude?
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: And they're like, once you get acclimated to it, I have one friend in particular, he'd been training in Colorado for like six months and then took a fight in San Diego, and he was like, my cardio was unstoppable in San Diego.
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: He goes, I felt like I was Superman just because of all the acclimation from the elevation.
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: That'd be great.
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: I would love to experience that.
- 13:51SPEAKER_02: Um, I definitely want to cross-train, like I said, but having my home gym for the last four and a half years and having coaches that know me very well, they know me when I'm tired in the corner.
- 14:03SPEAKER_02: I know they have my back.
- 14:05SPEAKER_02: Um, I know um, you know, I know they're a little upset with me about this loss, but um, I know they have my back slowly and they believe in me.
- 14:13SPEAKER_02: And it's good to have people in my corner like that.
- 14:15SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of guys that hop around and they don't really have a home gym, and I just feel like they're missing out on a lot of that relationship that I have with my coaches.
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: I think that is another commonality about MMA in particular, is the sense of community that you build around it, whether it be at a home gym, a fight team, uh, the fandom of MMA, uh, the fandom of jujitsu, the fandom of Mui Thai.
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: Um, what are some that leads to a really good question is what are some other disciplines that you've dabbled in that you know maybe are a little bit outside of the normal expectations for you?
- 14:55SPEAKER_02: The the one that comes to mind first is judo.
- 14:58SPEAKER_02: Um I have a coach at my gym, Charles Morrison.
- 15:01SPEAKER_02: Uh he teaches judo sometimes.
- 15:03SPEAKER_02: He teaches jujitsu also.
- 15:04SPEAKER_02: He's a black button jujitsu.
- 15:06SPEAKER_02: I think he's a black button judo also.
- 15:08SPEAKER_02: I have I've wrestled, like I told you earlier, and adding against some different type of throws, um, I think would help my game, especially if the judo is not my main uh grappling style, but if I can add in something else, I think it would be um it's a lot of fun to learn, and I think it would help a lot.
- 15:28SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: So do you have interests outside of fighting, or do you have just tunnel vision?
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: Like, what are some things that you do for hobbies that do not involve MMA or fighting?
- 15:41SPEAKER_00: Or what are some things that you're into?
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: Like pop culture wise, like do you have music that drives you a certain way?
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: I don't have a lot of interests.
- 15:50SPEAKER_02: Um I kind of grew up under a rock.
- 15:53SPEAKER_02: I had a pretty rough childhood.
- 15:55SPEAKER_02: Um I kind of grew up under a rock.
- 15:58SPEAKER_02: Um people always are talking about movies and artists and what's going on in pop culture, and I have no idea what's going on.
- 16:05SPEAKER_02: I grew up that way, and it I I definitely try to learn.
- 16:08SPEAKER_02: Um, I like to listen to audiobooks, podcasts.
- 16:11SPEAKER_02: Yes, podcasts are a big thing I like to listen to.
- 16:14SPEAKER_02: Um I feel like you can learn a lot.
- 16:17SPEAKER_02: I feel like um I listen to music, of course.
- 16:19SPEAKER_02: I like a lot of rap music.
- 16:20SPEAKER_02: I've recently been getting more and more into RB and stuff.
- 16:24SPEAKER_02: Um, but um sometimes I like to turn on um something I can learn from instead of just listening to music that makes you feel a certain type of way.
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: You know, that's crazy because I'm kind of I'm a former musician and I'm a similar way as well.
- 16:40SPEAKER_00: I have found more so in the past six or seven years that I will spend more time listening to books and podcasts than I do in music.
- 16:50SPEAKER_00: And actually, that's part of my gym routine.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: It's like when I'm doing cardio, I'll listen to a book, but when I start lift lifting weights, I'll maybe switch over to music.
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 17:01SPEAKER_00: What's the last audio book that you listen to?
- 17:04SPEAKER_02: Um, that's a good question.
- 17:06SPEAKER_02: Um, I just started one, it was by uh Patrick.
- 17:10SPEAKER_02: Um what's the I forgot his last name.
- 17:13SPEAKER_02: Um he has the PDB podcast.
- 17:16SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 17:16SPEAKER_02: Um Choose Your Enemies Wisely.
- 17:18SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
- 17:19SPEAKER_02: I think that's what it's called.
- 17:20SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, it's a great podcast.
- 17:22SPEAKER_02: Um my one of my good friends, he let me use his Audible account for like the past couple of years, and I'm always um listening to audiobooks, and it's really interesting.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: Have you ever listened to Atomic Habits by James Clear?
- 17:35SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't think so.
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: I've heard of it though.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: Check it out.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: You will you will thank me later.
- 17:41SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're now that you're doing my podcast, we're friends for life, just so you know.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: But uh but man, check out Atomic Habits by James Clear.
- 17:52SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell you, um, uh personally, I let the pandemic years get the better of me.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: I was in great shape before all the gyms shut down and all of that stuff happened.
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: And then the pandemic years hit.
- 18:09SPEAKER_00: And so at the first of the year, this year, I listened to Atomic Habits, and what it's about is making simple improvements every single day.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: Kind of that Kobe Bryant mamba mentality type thing.
- 18:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 18:21SPEAKER_00: Little things that you can work in as habits, and so I've really adopted that uh in 2024, and it's kind of the book that I absolutely recommend to everybody, especially when you have a focus and when you have a goal.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, as far as uh teammates go, other people in your life, um let's say you get this big UFC deal and you become one of the greats.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: What does the idea of mentorship mean to you and passing that knowledge forward?
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: It means a lot.
- 18:59SPEAKER_02: I'm always um in the future, you know, it I think it would have a had have a different relationship with it, but right now I'm definitely trying to help my teammates the most I can and help them get to where they want to be.
- 19:13SPEAKER_02: Uh, we I'm coming from a pretty small gym.
- 19:15SPEAKER_02: It's not a huge gym.
- 19:17SPEAKER_02: So the more guys I have that coming through the front door, I'm trying to be welcoming and help them as much as they want.
- 19:23SPEAKER_02: Um, and hopefully they can become good training partners someday.
- 19:27SPEAKER_02: And I have a lot of good training partners, so I'm trying to just help them with their fights coming up.
- 19:31SPEAKER_02: Um and help them.
- 19:34SPEAKER_02: I want to see them win so we all win, you know.
- 19:36SPEAKER_02: When I win, the whole team wins.
- 19:38SPEAKER_02: When I lose, the whole team loses.
- 19:40SPEAKER_02: So I'm right.
- 19:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's how the whole team is.
- 19:43SPEAKER_00: Um and that's how it should be at any gym.
- 19:46SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: It's funny you say that because I was at my day job today, and I'm the boss at my day job, and I happened to walk across one of my associates.
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: He was standing out front of the building, and he was just running the place down and he was talking shit, and I had a gotcha moment.
- 20:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was like, I don't know why they this, why they that.
- 20:10SPEAKER_00: So I had to pull him aside, and I'm like, there is no they.
- 20:14SPEAKER_00: There is only us and there is only we.
- 20:17SPEAKER_00: There is no they.
- 20:19SPEAKER_00: And if you think that there's a they, you need to go away.
- 20:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the problem.
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 20:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 20:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you gotta be a team.
- 20:28SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, absolutely.
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: And and maybe, maybe that's my that's my knowledge of what it takes to create a good culture someplace showing, and I and I think good fight teams are built around good culture for sure.
- 20:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: So let's talk a little bit about this fight that's coming up.
- 20:47SPEAKER_00: Isaiah Robinson is your opponent.
- 20:51SPEAKER_00: Have you been studying?
- 20:53SPEAKER_00: Do you know what to expect from him?
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm very familiar with Isaiah.
- 20:58SPEAKER_02: We actually fought his amateur a couple years ago.
- 21:00SPEAKER_02: Uh, I'm excited for this matchup.
- 21:02SPEAKER_02: I think it is very favorable for me.
- 21:05SPEAKER_02: I think I'm a way more complete mixed martial artist than Isaiah.
- 21:10SPEAKER_02: Our first fight, he got upset.
- 21:13SPEAKER_02: Um, we've had kind of bad blood here for like the last two years.
- 21:18SPEAKER_02: Um and he was upset with me.
- 21:21SPEAKER_02: Uh, he was talking a lot of trash online, uh, just give you the backstory.
- 21:25SPEAKER_02: And I don't, I'm not a big trash talker online.
- 21:27SPEAKER_02: So when I saw him out the way, I said I was like, hey, you ready to back up that mess you're talking?
- 21:32SPEAKER_02: And he he he was he's like, he's like, wait, what?
- 21:35SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Oh, yeah, I'm ready, yeah, yeah.
- 21:37SPEAKER_02: And then um he I got him off guard, I could tell.
- 21:40SPEAKER_02: And then the next day when he saw me before the fight, he had uh he had he wasn't off guard anymore.
- 21:44SPEAKER_02: He had a whole thing prepared for me.
- 21:46SPEAKER_02: And it was like just talking a bunch of trash.
- 21:49SPEAKER_02: And um, I'm just like, you know, we'll we'll fight, you know.
- 21:52SPEAKER_02: Um and then we fought and I I beat him up for three rounds.
- 21:56SPEAKER_02: Um and I I don't No, that's um the only way I can describe what happened.
- 22:03SPEAKER_02: I beat him up.
- 22:03SPEAKER_02: He didn't, he he landed a couple punches off of his back when I was on top of him.
- 22:08SPEAKER_02: It was very weird.
- 22:09SPEAKER_02: He wasn't trying to get back up to his feet and he would come at me.
- 22:11SPEAKER_02: He was super mad.
- 22:13SPEAKER_02: Um and he would swing these big overhand punches at me and I would just take him down.
- 22:18SPEAKER_02: And um he was talking a lot of trash the first two rounds, and the third round he didn't say anything, but I finished him the last 10 seconds after being on top of him for three rounds.
- 22:28SPEAKER_02: Um he's not a very he's not a very good grappler.
- 22:30SPEAKER_02: Um I think the easy thing, what probably the easy thing for me to do, and I think what a lot of people think is gonna happen is I'm gonna take him down right away, like I did the last fight.
- 22:38SPEAKER_02: But um that fight was two years ago.
- 22:40SPEAKER_02: I've gotten a lot better.
- 22:41SPEAKER_02: I'm always trying to improve every area of my game.
- 22:44SPEAKER_02: So this fight, I definitely want to strike with him a lot more.
- 22:47SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm not gonna strike the whole time.
- 22:48SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna promise that, but I I will strike with him.
- 22:51SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna just shoot right off the bat.
- 22:53SPEAKER_02: Um I think he's gonna learn from that last fight.
- 22:55SPEAKER_02: And I don't think he's gonna come at me super aggressive.
- 22:58SPEAKER_02: I think he's gonna try to keep his distance, which I think is gonna be tough for someone who is three or four inches shorter than me.
- 23:07SPEAKER_02: Um is gonna be tough for him to do that, and I'm gonna get a hold of him at some point, and I'm gonna piece him up before that, and I'm gonna finish him, and I'm excited to put all this beef behind me.
- 23:17SPEAKER_00: Dude, I loved it.
- 23:19SPEAKER_00: Just listening to you speak this into existence.
- 23:22SPEAKER_00: It's getting me excited for this fight on June 7th, 2024.
- 23:27SPEAKER_00: Liberty First Credit Union Arena Dynasty Combat Sports.
- 23:32SPEAKER_00: Man, I tell you what, this is this is great, man.
- 23:35SPEAKER_00: I'm glad we got to have this conversation.
- 23:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 23:38SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
- 23:40SPEAKER_00: My closing question for every single guest, I especially love it when it comes from fighters.
- 23:47SPEAKER_00: It's kind of an off-the-wall question, so be ready.
- 23:50SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 23:50SPEAKER_00: What's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today?
- 23:57SPEAKER_02: Try to be a good person to people.
- 24:00SPEAKER_02: Um, just try to be the best you can.
- 24:02SPEAKER_02: Try to treat people with respect.
- 24:04SPEAKER_02: Like I was saying earlier, treat the person that is that might not be the same um, you know, economic status as you.
- 24:13SPEAKER_02: Try to treat those people with the same respect that you would anybody else.
- 24:16SPEAKER_02: Um just be a good person, do good things, don't litter.
- 24:20SPEAKER_02: Um, just be a good person.
- 24:22SPEAKER_02: And that that that radius onto other people and the positivity spreads.
- 24:28SPEAKER_02: Um, and I think that is a good step to go.
- 24:31SPEAKER_02: Just start with yourself, like Michael Jackson said.
- 24:34SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
- 24:35SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 24:35SPEAKER_00: Dude, I love that.
- 24:37SPEAKER_00: I hope we get an opportunity on June 7th to see each other in person.
- 24:45SPEAKER_00: I I know you're probably gonna be back prepping for the fight, but I usually get there ridiculously early.
- 24:52SPEAKER_00: So I might send you a message and be like, bro, come out and say hi at least.
- 24:56SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'll come out.
- 24:57SPEAKER_02: I do come out, uh I have like five teammates fighting that night, and I I like to come out if they're early in the night.
- 25:02SPEAKER_02: I'll come out and I watch.
- 25:03SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, we don't have the TV backstage for dynasty.
- 25:06SPEAKER_00: So I'll just say Henry about that, be like, bro, get get a TV for these guys.
- 25:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 25:12SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, I'll probably I'll probably be out watching the fights a little bit.
- 25:16SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
- 25:17SPEAKER_00: So where can my audience find you online, my friend?
- 25:22SPEAKER_02: You can find me on Instagram at commas underscore M M A.
- 25:25SPEAKER_02: That's C-O-M-M-A-S underscore M M A.
- 25:29SPEAKER_02: Uh, I'm not on Twitter.
- 25:31SPEAKER_02: Um, you can find me on Facebook at M-I-A-M-K-A-K-Y-A-H.
- 25:36SPEAKER_02: And that's pretty much it.
- 25:38SPEAKER_00: Man, that's awesome.
- 25:40SPEAKER_00: I'm glad we got to connect.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: The world is a much better place with you in it, my friend.
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: I appreciate that.
- 25:46SPEAKER_00: You too, my friend.
- 25:47SPEAKER_00: Once again, I want to thank my friend MIA the second for doing the podcast today.
- 25:52SPEAKER_00: Make sure you give him a follow, commas underscore MMA on Instagram, and make sure you are there on June 7th for Dynasty Combat Sports Summer Kickoff 2024.
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- 26:46SPEAKER_00: This has been caught on the mic with Michael Clark.
- 26:49SPEAKER_00: I'm Michael Clark.
- 26:50SPEAKER_00: Until next time.