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NFL Week 8 MNF Showdown | Commanders @ Chiefs | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Ball System's going clear, the left up?
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  Speaker 2: What's up?
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  Speaker 1: Every one?
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Tamberline here aka TOTEG and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 2: edition of the Monday night Football Showdown. Show Here on
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  Speaker 2: the Ship at Nation YouTube station. Got the Commanders at
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs gonna break things down from a DraftKings fan duel, perspective, ownership, Captains, Roster,
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  Speaker 2: construction and more. Got hoop and Title here with me
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  Speaker 2: as always and Hoopster, I'm gonna kick it to you man,
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  Speaker 2: big Boy, big Boy Favorites with the Chiefs at home here,
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  Speaker 2: but we got another showdown slay big prizes top.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: How's your week going so far? My friend, going well?
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  Speaker 3: I mean in regards to DFS, I mean, two weeks
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  Speaker 3: in a row, had a somewhat legit chance at the
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  Speaker 3: Millie going into the four pm Eastern games. Fell a
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  Speaker 3: little short both times, which is expected because it's been
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  Speaker 3: very hard.
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  Speaker 4: To win it.
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  Speaker 3: But two weeks ago I was definitely, I mean, had
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  Speaker 3: all the nut guys from one pm Eastern fell a
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  Speaker 3: little short. And then yesterday a similar situation had like
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  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones Pittman, and then I needed a buka to
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  Speaker 3: do just about maybe anything. And I think he got
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  Speaker 3: like seven. He was the only only bust on that team.
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  Speaker 3: So legit chance getting close, and usually when you get close,
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  Speaker 3: something kind of pop. So I'm expecting something to pop
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  Speaker 3: very soon, and based on the momentum that we have
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  Speaker 3: within our community right now, I feel very confident that
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna happen because man, like, the community is just
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  Speaker 3: crushing right now, including yourself.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of other guys are on.
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  Speaker 3: A nice little heater right now and I'm looking to
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  Speaker 3: uh to join in on that fun.
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  Speaker 2: Love to see guy Nick Guthrie.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta ask title how he did yesterday? He said
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  Speaker 1: a million?
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  Speaker 3: You got the just me isna sound out of whack?
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  Speaker 3: You might have to reconnect your mic or something cutting out.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a lot of technical issues here to to
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  Speaker 3: start the Monday Monday Night football show.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, he was, he was. He was calling out
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  Speaker 4: some big wins and it was it was close.
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  Speaker 3: But a lot of people a Big Days yesterday, A
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  Speaker 3: lot of people at Big Days.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Tambo is gonna ask how, oh, I gotta move
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  Speaker 5: my mic closer now?
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  Speaker 4: All out of whack? Mine?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah I didn't. I didn't win thirty k. I might
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  Speaker 5: have lost thirty k. Now probably lost a little less
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  Speaker 5: than that, but everyone's heating up, titles getting cold. That's
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  Speaker 5: the nature of the game, Baker old management. We still
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  Speaker 5: have if we're looking up at shipping nation like I
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  Speaker 5: am right now, NFL, college football, NBA, p g A, MLB,
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  Speaker 5: m m A, NASCAR, and NHL. Every single of those
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  Speaker 5: sports are going. And I'm dabbling a lot of these streets.
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  Speaker 2: So it'll come testing, testing, one, two, three week back,
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  Speaker 2: a little test check there.
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  Speaker 1: We should be all right.
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  Speaker 2: But I fixed it up around here, so I have
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  Speaker 2: to wait and see. This is interesting randomness. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was just saying it was funny because I had
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  Speaker 2: the Hunter K sweat, Hoop had the Millie sweat, and
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  Speaker 2: I was wondering about title.
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  Speaker 1: He just answered that, So down do our man, Nick Guthrie.
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  Speaker 2: I won't bet I'll keep it going. He gave it
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  Speaker 2: the gears to himself. Only takes one good week in NFL,
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  Speaker 2: so I mean there's a ton of different slates ahead.
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  Speaker 2: He'll win one hundred k in Showdown Tonight or something
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  Speaker 2: like that maybe and get the ball rolling there. But
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  Speaker 2: everyone's favorite tonight, Hoop. We got Patrick Mahomes on the slate.
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  Speaker 2: This is where we like to play. I'm never Mahomes
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  Speaker 2: except for Showdown and short slates, and that's the Knights
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  Speaker 2: to get after. It looking very popular tonight and for
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  Speaker 2: good reason. Probably The pricing is sixteen to five in
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  Speaker 2: the Captain. But before we get to that, give us
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  Speaker 2: your grand scheme overview for how you see this game
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  Speaker 2: playing out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have a big, massive favorite here
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  Speaker 3: in the in the Chiefe, favored by what like.
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  Speaker 4: Twelve twelve and a half. No Jaden Daniels.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the game would be much more appealing
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  Speaker 3: if we had Jayden Daniels in, but he's out.
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  Speaker 4: Mary oed In.
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  Speaker 3: But I guess the good thing for the Commanders and
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  Speaker 3: for the slate really is debo In and Terry McLaurin in.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you know that means the Commanders have
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  Speaker 3: enough pieces to make this at least a competitive game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the Chiefs might be the best team in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL. I mean it's you know, it did not
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  Speaker 3: look good from the beginning, but man like they've they've
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  Speaker 3: just chugged along and they look like they're gonna be
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  Speaker 3: tough to beat now with Rashid Rice back in the offensive, phenomenal,
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  Speaker 3: albeit against who they played, the Raiders last week, who
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  Speaker 3: are are terrible, so I mean, maybe it's not that impressive,
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  Speaker 3: but they look they look good. Mahomes looks very very healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Like we've talked about on these shows, like running the
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  Speaker 3: ball now, I mean, he's a different player compared to
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  Speaker 3: what we saw last year.
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  Speaker 4: In the rush attempts. He hasn't he.
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  Speaker 3: Hasn't rushed the ball less than four times this season,
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  Speaker 3: and he's getting big garage out of these runs, and
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  Speaker 3: it makes him very appealing for fantasy and he's going
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  Speaker 3: to be I don't know, like Captain Flex combined close
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  Speaker 3: to one hundred percent whatever it is, I mean eighty
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  Speaker 3: ninety massively owned and rightfully so very very very likely
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  Speaker 3: to be on the optimal roster. And the nice thing
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  Speaker 3: about playing him up top, if you choose to go
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  Speaker 3: that route, is you have a lot of different ways
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  Speaker 3: to play him because he has all these pass catchers
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  Speaker 3: he's willing to throw the ball to all the way
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  Speaker 3: down to We talked about it on the main show
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  Speaker 3: last week and probably not super relevant for the main shows,
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  Speaker 3: but Thornton, you know, Taekwon Thornton threw him a bomb
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think he caught it, but he's still
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  Speaker 3: out there and getting looks in this offense that now
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  Speaker 3: has Rashi Rice Back, has Hollywood Brown, has Xavier Worthy.
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  Speaker 3: It just goes to show you he's willing to chuck
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  Speaker 3: the ball to anyone that's on the field, and that
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  Speaker 3: actually adds quite a bit of appeal to him as
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  Speaker 3: a captain play.
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  Speaker 4: But we'll get in all that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's you know, one of those situations where
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  Speaker 3: you look at this and you say, oh, the Chiefs
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  Speaker 3: are favored by almost two touchdowns, Like I want the
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  Speaker 3: running backs, and man, that's the one spot in this offense.
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  Speaker 3: It's not very appealing the running back position with Pachuco
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  Speaker 3: and Kareem Hunt. Now they're adding in this Smith guy
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  Speaker 3: as well, and I believe Hunt. Yeah, Hunt isn't in,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, the Smith guy continues to get more
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  Speaker 3: work and looks like he's the guy that they almost
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  Speaker 3: prefer in this offense.
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  Speaker 4: So it is an interesting dynamic.
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  Speaker 3: But as always, big prizes up top and excited to
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  Speaker 3: break it down with you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of ways to go title. What's your
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  Speaker 1: first thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: Just taking it as a game and a slate as
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  Speaker 2: a whole What are you thinking here before we get
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  Speaker 2: into the captain talk.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's nice to see the commander is
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  Speaker 5: getting more healthy. But with no Jaden Man, I agree
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  Speaker 5: with Hoop. I think this Chiefs team is the best
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL right now. If I had to make
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  Speaker 5: a bet everyone was even odds, I would bet the
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  Speaker 5: Chiefs to win it. The thing with even what's nice
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  Speaker 5: about chief Slates even though like five to one will
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  Speaker 5: be popular four too. I mean it's ten point favorites.
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  Speaker 5: They are the running back room. Like Coop said, I
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  Speaker 5: mean that being so craziness and no one confident in
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  Speaker 5: one individual makes it good. Because they are ten point favorites,
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  Speaker 5: they will have a running back out there every single play,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes even to picking the right one. I mean you
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  Speaker 5: have two different price ranges kind of too. Pacheco seven,
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  Speaker 5: Brishard Smith four Kareem Hunt the lowest set three K.
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  Speaker 5: But if you look last week, Brishard Smith had his
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  Speaker 5: career high and snaps and carries. But I mean Mahomes
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  Speaker 5: was pulled after the third quarter. He did get a
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  Speaker 5: lot of that stuff in the fourth quarter, so I
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  Speaker 5: still think it's gonna be Hunt. Pachecko getting the early
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  Speaker 5: crack and then slowly but surely they're mixing Smith in
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  Speaker 5: in this gadget role with Rashi Rice back as well,
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  Speaker 5: makes it a little more concentrated at receiver. Like Coop said,
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  Speaker 5: Thornton's still out there and he's getting deep shots. So
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  Speaker 5: even though it's a very everyone's going to be on
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  Speaker 5: cheap side. I'm not going to be like playing five commanders.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even like four commanders too much. How I
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  Speaker 5: can get different money. I think it's pretty soft there,
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  Speaker 5: and there's enough low own pieces at least relative to
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  Speaker 5: the workload that I think it's a pretty good chief slate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting, if you know, especially depends on how you got
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  Speaker 2: this game going, on what you're building out, if you're
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  Speaker 2: building in sets or building lineups to sort of play
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  Speaker 2: for a certain setup. Because I think they will try
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  Speaker 2: and keep it pretty simplified on the Washington side, so
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  Speaker 2: you could see some three threes, even two fours, which
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  Speaker 2: chiefs up a captain and you know, like a Rashi
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  Speaker 2: Rice in the captain, Mahomes and the Flax and then
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  Speaker 2: just Mariota and whoever you think he gets involved. I
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  Speaker 2: actually think there is different builds to this spot. We'll
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  Speaker 2: have to wait and see what it all shakes out.
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  Speaker 2: But good points on the running backs particularly, I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people Brishard Smith is sort of their
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  Speaker 2: flavor of the month.
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  Speaker 1: They want to use him right away, and it's like
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  Speaker 1: Hunt is back.
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  Speaker 2: I could easily see where they still try and just
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  Speaker 2: jam Hunt at the line or something like that being
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  Speaker 2: back this week.
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  Speaker 1: So the other thing was.
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  Speaker 2: All the people out there that told me there was
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  Speaker 2: no way they're gonna use Taekwon Thornton when all these
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  Speaker 2: other dudes are back, and like Hoop said, still, why
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  Speaker 2: would they take them off the field? The dude was other.
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  Speaker 2: I know he got way lower snaps, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: But overall, they're not going to just turn away from
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  Speaker 2: these guys that can burn and everybody be up the
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  Speaker 2: field and move this game along pretty quickly and score points.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing why they're so dangerous, not just all
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  Speaker 2: the weapons that they have, but Andy Reid, the coaching staff,
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  Speaker 2: that defense, literally everything. They've got it all right now again,
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  Speaker 2: long season, so I have to see how it goes me.
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  Speaker 2: Me and title still holding out hope for these Ravens
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: to get it back on track. Snoop came in, got
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: the dub and now maybe they will get a little
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  Speaker 2: bit hot going in. They gotta turn around this week
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  Speaker 2: quickly and we should get Lamar back and then.
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  Speaker 5: Get Bengals lose too, Steelers lose, and their schedules the
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  Speaker 5: good they're gonna get there, tam BAA.
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  Speaker 4: They're making a run for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Schedules are very weak moving forward, like they're they're in
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  Speaker 3: a really good, really good spot, like they're gonna they're gonna.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is just a you know, grand
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: scheme over you and then I'll kick it the hoop
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  Speaker 2: to start on captains. I'm sure he's gonna be talking
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  Speaker 2: about this one anyway. But the all the Mahomes jokes
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  Speaker 2: aside and everything, it's like it's it's amazing on a
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  Speaker 2: showdown site because one don't have to compete with twenty
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  Speaker 2: other quarterbacks or teams or stacks or whatever. And then
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  Speaker 2: on top of it, it's so set up where you
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  Speaker 2: can you could be equal to the field, overweight, whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want to look at with Mahomes up top. But
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: there's so many ways to get different from leaving money
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  Speaker 2: on the table. If it's Rice down to Worthy, if
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  Speaker 2: it's Worthy down to Hollywood Brown, It's like you can
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  Speaker 2: do anything with these lineups. And even when you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to play the twenty five or thirty
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  Speaker 2: percent owned captain Mahomes, it's like there's not.
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  Speaker 1: Much else because it's a twofold situation.
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  Speaker 2: Hoop. You if you play them, you can get different
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  Speaker 2: with him in a ton of different ways like I
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  Speaker 2: just said, and two, because he can spread it out,
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  Speaker 2: it's less likely that you get one of those options
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  Speaker 2: be the guy that's required up top unless you get
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  Speaker 2: like a two touchdown Rice game, a two touchdown Kelsey game,
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  Speaker 2: or something along those lines. It is still National tight
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  Speaker 2: End Week, by the way, so we've got to think
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  Speaker 2: about that prime time Travis Kelcey. But Hoop, I'll kick
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  Speaker 2: it to you your thoughts at the captain with that saying.
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  Speaker 3: Oh National tight End it's just so just like missus
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  Speaker 3: Hoop doesn't I mean, she watches Lions right and she'll
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  Speaker 3: tune in here and there to football.
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  Speaker 4: I had it on yesterday. She's like.
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: Them say National tight End Day, so she knew nothing
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  Speaker 3: about it. Like, why do they keep saying that? I said,
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  Speaker 3: I have no it's all they want to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: I said it's awful. I said it's it's really really annoying.
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  Speaker 3: So even a novice, not even a fan, someone just
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  Speaker 3: like listening his background sound picked up on how annoying
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: there with the National tight end Day thing.
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  Speaker 1: When are the other national days? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of that, that's okay, off, But where's when is
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: National quarterback Day?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Right back day?
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I don't know any of them. I've
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  Speaker 2: never heard of them at all.
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  Speaker 5: There is no National QB day.
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  Speaker 1: Boo wow, just not fair man.
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  Speaker 5: National RB days in March. Oh that's R and B. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there's no Actually maybe October twentieth.
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  Speaker 3: That's positional positional discrimination. That tight ends are the only
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  Speaker 3: position that gets gets a day that is unfair.
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  Speaker 5: Informal holiday created on Sunday night football was launched October twentieth,
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  Speaker 5: the twenty twenty five, so last week they just started
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  Speaker 5: running back Day right before.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like play football. It's so stupid, so stupid.
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  Speaker 3: But I will say the Ravens are about to win.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's eight games in a row. Miami Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: Who sucks.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, Danny, I know you're in here, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: matter if McCarthy's coming back.
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  Speaker 3: Like, they're a very bad football team, Uh, Cleveland Jets,
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  Speaker 3: Cincy who kissed on their pants yesterday, Pittsburgh sucks, and
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  Speaker 3: then Cincy again. So their minus one twenty five, that's
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: wild and they're what two in five?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Favorite?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Is it three and five too? I don't even know
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  Speaker 5: at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But I like what you're saying with the
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  Speaker 3: home stuff.
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  Speaker 4: It's like so many different guys and go to.
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  Speaker 3: As long as there's not like one guy that absolutely
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: goes off for one hundred and two touchdowns, Like you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's probably the the most likely guy to be up
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  Speaker 3: there on the on the chief side, and the fact
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  Speaker 3: that he is willing to throw out to everyone, including
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: you know, the third string running back makes his case
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  Speaker 3: even stronger up tops.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with what you're saying there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's key. Who are the other captas
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  Speaker 2: you're considering? Then we'll we'll go right into it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean definitely like Forshi Rice, I mean they
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  Speaker 3: made a very strong effort to just get him in
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  Speaker 3: the ball, get him the ball in the red zone.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're going to continue to do that. I
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  Speaker 3: think you can definitely make the case for Worthy. You know,
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  Speaker 3: those are definitely my three favorite and probably most people
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at ownership, you know, maybe not Worthy as much.
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  Speaker 3: So Worthy might be the one that kind of stands
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  Speaker 3: out for me, but my homes Worthy, uh Rashi Rice
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  Speaker 3: for for sure, I don't know, like it just probably
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  Speaker 3: consolidate a pool for me today, probably pretty pretty tight,
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  Speaker 3: Like you guys are gonna have to sell me on
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  Speaker 3: some of these other guys probably, like one of those
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  Speaker 3: three are definitely my favorites based on ownership, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if the Worthy and I just want to pull this
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  Speaker 3: up and see if the Worthy ownership looks low, like
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  Speaker 3: He's probably my favorite by you know, just kind of
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  Speaker 3: for that reason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. I mean it makes perfect sense.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, Worthy stands out because he could be ten percent
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  Speaker 2: less owned than Rashi in the Captain and he's a
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  Speaker 2: guy that could just be that guy. And it's because
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  Speaker 2: of the price difference. It's why more people are gonna
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  Speaker 2: be clicking there. But the potential is still there for
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  Speaker 2: him to have a day. I'm still gonna be playing Kelsey.
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  Speaker 2: It's outside of the national tight end stuff, which I
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  Speaker 2: don't give a shit about. But I just think it's
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  Speaker 2: the guy that could catch two touchdowns when they get
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  Speaker 2: down there.
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  Speaker 1: It's somebody that Mahomes trusts.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen it a ton of times, so I think
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  Speaker 2: that's a fine spot. The only thing I'll say, as
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  Speaker 2: I kick it to you title is like on the
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  Speaker 2: Washington side, anything you can do there, because I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if I'll see Mariota spreading it out as much.
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  Speaker 1: I know there's a ton of options.
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  Speaker 2: You could say he could spread it out too, but
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: just keep it simple, like let's roll here.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: We're probably getting crushed.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Let's try and make it away that you can stay
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: in this game, keep this offense rolling. Wouldn't that give
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: a chance for like Deebo mclorn or somebody like that
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: up top if the other side gets spread out too much,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: and then this is a chance where it's a little
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: bit more consolidate, Like two touchdowns to Debo might be
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: all the points score and they lose thirty one to fourteen.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: But Deebo would have those two touchdowns plus everything else,
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: and the other points could get spread out. I don't know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: how do you see a plane out one? Are the
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: captains for you?
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: I could see it. The problem for me is the
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: Chiefs are so good on the outside. My actually probably
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: one of my only interests at captain on that side
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: Commanders is Mariota in the sense of he if he
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: does spread it around, great, but the rushing touched on
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: upside and using his legs, like, if he gets there
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: on the ground, it could be garbage time they're down
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: twenty one or whatever. Last drive ten yard run at
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: his price take you get a big enough discount from
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: the Mahomes stuff. Let's look at it right here. Eleven
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: K Mahomes, nine to six Rice, nine to two. Mariota,
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: Rice will be high. Your own captain Mahomes will be
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: I think Mariota has enough outs with his legs to
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: make him by far my favorite captain on the Commanders.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: A running quarterback that could be less than ten percent,
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: I won't be playing the pass catchers as much up top.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: The ones I like after that, I just think are
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: the chalk I mean Mahomes. I keep playing them a
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: lot in showdowns. But because you can play him in
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: so many different ways, with him running more, with him
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: throwing to the running backs, with them spreading it out
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: so much, I'm fine eating the chalk there. I mean
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: Rice came back right away to wide receiver one that
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: I can't ignore him. He has one hundred and two
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: upside and then Worthy. Yeah, he's the lowest own the
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: six percent one play. He can absolutely get there. I
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: think it's by far those four and after that honestly
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: might rotate Pachecko still, like, I feel like if it's
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: one of these Chiefs running backs that get two touchdowns,
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: I think it's him. I think he separated enough from
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Kareem and in this type of game script, in his
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: ten point favorit, it's like he's he's the guy that
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: wire running between the tackles. It doesn't feel like a
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Brishard Smith spot as much. I don't mind him when
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: we get to the flex. But yeah, I guess what
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: do you guys do? Like, looking at TV props, Pacheco
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: won ninety five, Hunt three ninety Smith two eighty. If
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: someone's getting there twice, do you agree that it's Pacheco.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Are you gonna play any up top there?
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I will for sure.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: You know, anytime it's going to be a Mahomes Rice slate,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to do it anyway. So it's I'm
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: by me. I think it's actually possible. You could see
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: something like that too, where you can get completely different
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: with your build, because if he gets two, that can
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: really separate you, and then you just I would still
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: put Mahomes in the flex and a lot of them,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: just because I think he's still going to be part
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: of whatever else is needed, versus trying to find five
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: other spots that you need to. You already have the
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: savings with a ten to five captain up top and Pacheco,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So I think that's fine if you have like a
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: blow like they're talking to the Chad about McNichols lane
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and these guys, like, yeah, obviously if you're just playing
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: into the full on Chiefs blowed, if you're playing the
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: highest dollar smaller field stuff, yes, like anything like that
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: can play.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: But I think in a lot of.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: The larger field stuff there's other things that we can
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: see get there. So I guess the other thing too.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I like your point on Mariota, Like, if I go
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: four to two Chiefs, I still want Mariota and somebody.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: It's just I got to get lucky on the somebody
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and I get that, and that's fine, But up top
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: it would be him or probably Bill more than the
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: pass catchers, just because of the chance of you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: he gets there on the he's the only guy that
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: sort of gets a couple of them or something like that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: The way they score same idea probably be more likely
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to be them through the rushing game, landing at the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: end zone or passer interference call or something like that.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: So I think that's something I always think of. We
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: have it on a bunch of different slates, when the underdog,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: you know, you just play the running back from the
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: other team, and we've seen it happen a bunch, so
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I could consider that. But up top it's right now
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: at least is Mahomes, Rice Worthy, Kelsey, Mariota, and Pacheco.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: That'd be the six guys I'm considering right now. Hoop
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: anything else you want to.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Add, No, I think I'm probably just gonna might just
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: play the three. I gotta say, I haven't built teams,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: but problem I have. I get the Pacheco thing, and
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: if one of the running backs was likely to score
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: two touchdowns, it is probably him. But it's like he
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: needs the two touchdowns probably to be the optimal captain.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of what I struggle with because they
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: still have two other running backs and you know they're
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: down to do some funky stuff even at like the
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: one yard line. So it scares me a little bit.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: But I would say, yeah, I mean, he is the
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: one that's likely to do it. I just don't think
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play him up top. And I almost feel
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: the same way with Cal and he could get it
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: like where he needs the two touchdowns to be the
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: guy you need up there. So I don't know it's
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: going to be a very tight group for me for
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: me up top, I think, you know, regardless.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one more thing I'll add then is the other side.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, realistically, it's only because to me at least
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that Pachecko, Smith and Hunt are all there that makes
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: it a little bit scary. Otherwise, I don't know what
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: spot like this is. You look at the stone and
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the Commander's rush defense isn't anything special. You look at
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a thirty point home team total favored by ten. I mean,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: we'd usually be loving a running back in the spots.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Just tricky because there's three of them there. But I
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: think that's kind of the point, that's where you're gonna
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: have to take some shots the other thing I'll say
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: with Pachecko, and you can apply this to really whoever else.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: But if you look Worthy twelve nine, Rice, fourteen to four,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: My Home sixteen to five, even Mariota's almost fourteen k,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: wherever else you're going, Pachecko's the only version that would
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: really do two things. Flip these pass catchers and quarterback
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: situation on its head, and also to flip the bill
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to be able to afford different things than if you
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: start with the mahomes up top. Obviously you can kind
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: of afford whatever you want on this slate, but that's
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: only pre flop. As our guy title likes to say that,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: you know that once the results happen, you're like, well shit,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I needed more of a balanced build. Too late, it's over,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: so that the slate ends and you're onto the next one. Title,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I need to add from that perspective, just from how
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you see builds planned, I would obviously assume a lot
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: of five ones and four twos tonight chiefs.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I kind I mean, it's hard for
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: me to really see it the other way, and I'll
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: have some four twos. I don't know if I like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: if I get some commander's five ones. I will look
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: at those builts specifically and it would have to make
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: sense to me. But Mariota's my favorite way is to
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: go about commander stuff like I think I'd be fine
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: two four like the commander captain and Mariota is the
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: guy just hoping he runs it in. I struggle with
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: some of the other pass catchers as much. But if
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: you are going the chalky route, like leave money mix in,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: like if you play two running backs the other Kareem
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: and Smith, or do something different within your builds if
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: you are doing the four two five one chiefs, because
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: it's by far the most common, probably of two build types,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: it's probably the most gonna be the most owned, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: think that we've seen all year. Maybe I'm wrong, but
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: it's got to be up there.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be very close. Maybe one of
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: those Bill slates. By the way, then that's football for you.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: But man and whop, I'm coming to you in a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: second on the other stuff. But the football stuff, Carolina
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: pumps Atlanta thirty to nothing. Atlanta beats Buffalo outright. When
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: we were like, oh, it's a bit of a fishy line,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Atlanta gets the job done and we're like, oh, that's
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the case, and then Buffalo pumps Carolina like this that's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: football for you though, right, oh.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Does this Kirk Cousins? I mean, is that the is that?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: It horrible?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: My bad has to be man, that's so sick. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: reviewed that this morning. We had an hour and a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: half to work with, and we had the Mooney spot
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: on that part of it. Right, Obviously you still gonna
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: get to the guy. He's forty four hundred bucks in
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the spot like, it's just hard to completely avoid or
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: get rid of it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I get it. But man, bijon, did you.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: See he got to almost sixty percent in the twenty
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: dollars MILLI Maker And if you really sit back, this
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: is again you got to adapt on the fly. I
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: most certainly did not, and it cost me in some
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: places and other places I could late swap and make
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: up my day.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I was thankful for that. But I'll tell you what,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: think him back.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: It's not just the sixty percent, because that's a number.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: We know he was a good play look at the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: stone like you love the spot, the matchup?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Who cares?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: But all they did was just say, you know what,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Mooney Kyle Pitts, who people keep thinking is the thing,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and then he's not.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I'll raise my hand on that one too.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Take the held there, But it's it's that and Casey Washington,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: let's see if cousins can figure it out with those guys,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and we'll just do our damn best to stop Bijeon.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And sure enough that worked, surprise, surprise.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Well, and you give him five carries in the first half.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Tall's years like three, I mean two.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think anything was gonna work for
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: them yesterday. I definitely think it was start. It starts
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: with that, and I don't know if we did enough.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I guess for me it's I'm just taking it more
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: personal and thinking of how I think about my game
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and more to the fact of like the total drop
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: two and a half or whatever.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: The ownership flew up.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: On Beijeon and all the other stuff, and the same
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: call for Mooney could flip for all the other stuff.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: So I did get a little h chan at the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: end there with the move of flipping the build. But man, Bijon,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: just that was that was crazy to see, Hoop. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: don't know what else you got to add, but that
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: was something.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Uh, nothing really to add just the fact that like
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: there's how many million, three hundred million people like in
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: the US. I guess you can look outside of the
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: US as well, because some of these players come from
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: other countries and like you can't find like fifty solid
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: NFL quarterbacks. I guess it just goes to show you
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: how tough of a job it is to be an
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: NFL quarterback and everything has to kind of align because
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I mean there's maybe like twenty, not even maybe like
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: fifteen really good NFL quarterbacks like in the world, in
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: the in the entire world, because most of these teams
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: don't have a starter that's good and they definitely definitely
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: don't have a backup that's good. So yeah, I mean
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: we kind of touched on it, but it's like, man,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: you don't have an a ton of time to react,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and you got to go with what the instincts are.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: And I think the instincts were right, Like Kirk Cousins
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: in there no Drake London like Bijon should get thirty
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: touches in a competitive game, and they were favored still
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: somehow by seven. We touched on a little bit at
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: the end of the show where it's like, you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I know, we're all big into the survivor streets and
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: it ended up not mattering because Cincinnati shit their pants
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: And that's a.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Whole other conversation that me and titled We're talking about earlier.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: But it's like, that's still the right play to go
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: to Bijon. You know, obviously gonna be a little cautious
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: and you're just gonna play Mooney for sure, just because
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: it's gonna it's gonna work. He's four K and wide
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: receiver one. So like, I don't know, I don't have
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: an issue with any of it really, you know, Kirk Cousins,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: you know a lot of people still played him risky
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: but cheaps.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I think you know, it wasn't the thought pri just
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: behind it all this I think was still fine. The
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: game plan for the Falcons atrocious. I mean, just goes
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: to the coaching stuff, just absolutely.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: That's why I was going to cut in though, because
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you were talking. I thought you were gonna say it
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: when he said the fifty people in the world that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: don't forget Still there's not many good quarterbacks in the
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: world to who's point, but still raise your kids to
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: be NFL coaches. Another fifty four million dollars buyout.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: To the NFL college Yeah, college, college.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Level, but the coaches are what screwed it. That's a beat.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Like I said, bijon not getting any touch, Like, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: don't know, it's just so bad. But in reality, you know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: you can go one hundred different ways of it. I
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: was just shocked that he got to almost sixty percent.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: You don't see that with a almost call it nine
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars running back very often, to be honest, you
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: see what you used to see it, like a backup
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: running back four k whatever would get to fifty sixty
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: percent and you're fine with You're like, yeah, should have
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: locked him. He's free at this point, but there was
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: tons of running back plays, Hue. I just was shocked
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to see that.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: So, yeah'd be that's a good point, but it'd be
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: a different conversation if you went for forty, if you
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: put up a forty ball, and yeah, that's obvious was
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: going to happen, Like you know, you should have been one.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Hundred percent on, not sixty. Yeah.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Sometimes, Yeah, I'm harder on it than the most, probably
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: harder on myself the most. I think he's a bad
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: play at sixty percent, but that's just my take.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But the problem is there's no way to project
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: him to get to sixty percent, Like no one's thinking,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: oh now, all of a sudden, everybody's pivoting to Bijon,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: which is what happened. But use so many running back plays,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: it would have been hard to project him for more
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: than like forty percent.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Like you just can't, you can't. You can never get
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: him to the sixty.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: That's what shocked me. And when I did it this morning.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: You look at all the top players, yourself included. We
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: were running through people's one fifty sets pretty much everyone
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: just had forty percent Beijon, and it was like, I'm
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: gonna take the field, and then the field took the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: field and everybody else took him to and they were
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: actually twenty percent underweight, almost on the spot.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: So it is what it is.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It actually worked out better for those spots for people,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: but for the most part, you don't see it very often.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Last thing hooped them.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: We'll move on to the running backs with you title,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: but your favorite topic. The chat asked about chiefs DSD
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: up to tonight in the Captain, what do you think.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Hoop does this for you? Your your favorite?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I just didn't think you're gonna ask me that
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: sort of question because you know what my answer is
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: gonna be.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: And I mean I'm not doing it like you said.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I'm probably just playing the three guys and moving on,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: maybe adding a couple other pieces. But it's not going
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: to be the d I mean, we haven't seen it
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: probably since what last season where it's been optimal.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: It just takes a lot.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, it takes a low scoring game, it takes
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: all the offense to kind of get spread out, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: you know, probably two touchdowns from the defense and special
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: teams and definitely not for me.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Now title you want to add to that one. I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: knew who would love.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: That, but just making sure it's it's tricky.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: I've been I've been right around like the seventy five
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: to one hundred team for most of these slates, and
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: I've been more open to just run my process if
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: something if I if I think they have a chance
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: to get there today Chiefs defense, which I do, I
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: think a pick. I mean Seattle ran super bad against
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Houston like they could have been. There's a couple of
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: spots this year that defenses could have got there. It's
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: a mid tier build. If the Rice nukes my home
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: nukes like all these guys up top, if they really
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: get there fully and you need more of a mid
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: tier ish captain. I mean, all three chiefs running backs
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: aren't very fun to stomach. Commanders, defense kickers like if
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: they can outscore them, I can see it. But I'm
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: playing a lot more teams than probably most people watching this.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: The more teams you play, the more open you can
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: be this stuff in your portfolio, the tighter. If I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: playing twenty teams or less, I almost never play a defense,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: So it's only because I played a lot more teams.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: That's so what I was gonna add.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I've seen plenty of slates, like we've seen two or
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: three of these this season with the Eagles, Bills, things
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: like that. Like you said, you'll you'll see it on
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: my you know, one fifty. Depending on the slate that
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I'm playing, it's i've seen. You know, I'm getting like
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: four percent in the Captain of the Defense. Sure, just
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: run it out there. It's hopefully those are the ones.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: If if that's the case, and yeah, we we will
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: get to the kicker segment. Later, but currently Matt Gay
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: is questionable. They did not sign anyone from all this
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: stuff that I can check on X and run around
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and find. So I'm actually assuming he's going to be
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: all good to go, but we will I don't think
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: we'll have a backup. I don't think we'll have an
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: option if he doesn't play somehow, so he'd be playing
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: a slate with no commander's kicker. But if you've got
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the chief smashing them anyway, I don't know these coaches
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: these days.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: They'll just kick it down forty to nothing.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kick a field goal, but I don't think
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: it's gonna matter for the lineup that you neat up
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: top tonight anyway. So we'll see, unless you know, you
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: build for that. But that's what we got to see.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: So you know, Kenny said he's bad when active, So yeah,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: and Andrew said about the optimal number on the stone,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: this is I guess my point, but yeah, he was
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: twenty nine percent to be optimal, almost sixty percent owned.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It's it's when it's like five points or something like that.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: If he's thirty four to thirty five, like, yeah, you
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: want that guy when he's almost sixty that was my
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: but you wouldn't know. To Hoop's point, you don't know
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: until the cards flip.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: And that's a good question.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I got a question for you since you review that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you know the answer. How what
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: percent of one fifty maxers make up that milli maker
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: or contest that you're looking at.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: We didn't pull the number today, but it's like usually
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: it's like one hundred and fifty to two hundred and fifty,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: somewhere in that range.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: I think like like twenty five percent of it. Would
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: you say, is that?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: No? No, No, I'm like, I can't remember what we saw.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I'll have to live.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, that would be about right if that's the case,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: because it'd be like, what around twenty five thousand entries
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: right of the one sixty ish or whatever it was.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: So maybe that may some rough math.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: The only reason I kind of ask is like, the
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: more people that one fifty do more similar process and
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: stuff like that, and use at least kind of similar stuff.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: So when you do see steam on certain people, maybe
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: taking it to that next level. We talk about levels
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: to everything. Inputs are your outputs, Like if you kind
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: of have an idea where these sharp people do their
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: patterns and stuff, and if they make up, like, the
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: more they make up of the tournament, the more you
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: can read it. Obviously, the more random one off, two off,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: three off teams, it's harder to get a dictated there.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: But it was clear that projections once London went down,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: like they boosted a lot of the Falcon stuff, they
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: didn't really dot Kirk nearly as much. So, yeah, that
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: was my only reason.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I asked.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy five people played one to fifty
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: max yesterday.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: So it's a fifty times one seventy five and then
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: whatever that tournament.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Was, twenty six thousand, two hundred and fifty.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Hundred one, one hundred and.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Thirty five entries that are about one six one fifth
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: somewhere in that range.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a funny game we play, Yeah, any
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: any game. I was talking about, Barbara, like, that's why
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I love poker so much. Anyone when everyone has an
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: even playing field, but there's an edge to it and
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: some everyone loves money, everyone wants to try hard. It's
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: it's always going to be fun, it's never ending a puzzle.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: It's pretty cool.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: That's what I love about it, for sure. I think
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you said it perfectly.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And poker is the prime example to the same card,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: same ship like it's we're all just playing the same
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: game when you show up to the table, but some
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: people have got to figure it out chess. I was
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: talking about the board. The pieces can't put no extra
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: value on them. It's your master that has the game
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: under their belt, and that's what we try and teach
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you at Ship and Nation. Make sure everyone's geared up
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: on how to play and not just who to play
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: like everybody else talks about. So we're always thinking about
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the game from that perspective, trying to get to the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: top of these tournaments. We're trying to do it again tonight.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Kenny says it can have some spill down, would make
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: would would make Chiefs Devens more viable. If they don't
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: have a kicker, you have to see. I just I
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: don't understand they would go into the game without one.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You would have thought they would have already done something
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I'm fully expecting to see a little.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: More, But I mean, I would boost these commanders offensive
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: weapons a ton I mean, if you're getting four downs
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: instead of three to get touchdowns every single drive, Like,
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's the nuts.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good thinking from that perspective as well, for sure.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: So title, I'll go to you, we're gonna talk about
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: these running backs. I know you mentioned already about the
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Pachecko stuff and then you gave the the props for Hunt, Pachecko, Smith,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: et cetera. But on the other side, we've got Bill
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: we mentioned McNichols. Any any thoughts here on these running backs?
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Just looking at our ownership, I mean, this has to
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: be like the lowest combined running back home ownership of
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: all the slates, which a lot of Chiefs stuff is
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: because three of them get ownership. But I think, like
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: when I'm playing Chaw Captains, I think I want to
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: play these running backs and take the unexpected outcomes like
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Pacheco thirty percent, which probably a starting running back plus
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: one ninety five to score. I'm definitely playing it for
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: Shard Smith thirteen percent all the way at four k sure,
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: even Hunt nine percent. Like I'm you can get overweight
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: on all these guys. When we get to like receiver
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: and tight end and stuff. I think I like it
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: less big favorites of the Chiefs. I hope they control
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: the football on the ground, which means I think I
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: like Nick McNichols more than Merit for the price on
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: the other side, because he is the past catching back.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: If they get down a lot at thirty four hundred,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I'm fine with Merrit. He's probably my least favorite of
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: the bunch. But when you're playing him, I would assume
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: a different game script, a closer game script built for that,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: whereas McNichols, I would build more for the blowout script.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: But I'm gonna yeah, at ownership for a lot of
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: these running backs, I'm going to just play it and
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: hope at least probably at least one, maybe two are
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: on the winner. I would like that today.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm gonna read this because I just don't
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: want to forget this. At one thirteen, so this was
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: two hours ago. Here's the situation. The beat writer from
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Washington said Commanders Matt Gay was added to the injury
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: report Friday with a back issue. If he's unable to go,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the team has until four pm to make alternative plans
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: elevate someone from practice squad PS. No kickers currently on
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the PS, which is the practice squad, but that's just
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: a side note. Sign a kicker to the practice squad
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: and elevate him or just go with the guys they have.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Could also sign a kicker to the practice squad, elevate him,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: and keep Gay as questionable until they have to declare
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: in actives ninety minutes before ninety minutes before kickoff. And
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: then the first comment is Zane Gonzalez seen at the
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: airport and they're like rushing a guy into the car
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: and driving him in.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: So I get, none of it really matters for us
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: because it's either Gay or nobody. They're not going to
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: add the kicker to the player pool at this point.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: It's like if Gay's in, like we have a kicker.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: If he's out, We're just not gonna have a Washington
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: kicker available for for DFFS.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: No matter what, they're gonna have someone like they ain't
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: going into it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: What I'm saying for DFS. So you're right, yeah, they're
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: not going to add.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: They're not going to go forward on fourth every time
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: as well, like they're gonna have Yeah, whether we have
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: the option to Ryan.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Pre show, this is the one hoop.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: No matter what you say, they're not going to replace
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Gay with a kicker for you to play on this
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: slate today. That's the important news that you need to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: know going into the game tonight.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: So that solves that we can move on.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: We know what's going on with the kicker situation for
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: a team that's probably getting blown up by twenty anyways.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: But either is either gay or no way at the
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: kicker position for Washington today, you got it.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: We're back on it. We got these cars.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: No way, all right, title can just add six to
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: seven and at the end of it and just slide
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: that in there.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: But let's let's move on. Hoop.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Do you got anything else you want to add At
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the running back position, we got Bill mcneikels, Rodriguez Junior
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: or obviously got that whole running room for the Chiefs
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: that you've already sort of talked down on.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, my favorite is McNichols, you know, just kind
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: of playing into that game strip or they're playing from
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: behind thirty four hundred. I think he could get I
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: mean he gets some carries. I mean he had like
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: a couple last time in a couple catches. It's thirty
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: four hundred. If they truly are playing from behind, two touchdowns,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: he's going to be out there quite a bit, so
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: he's my favorite. Then Pa check O, then Smith, then Hunt.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I don't really like Bill all that much at seventy
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: two hundred, I just don't think this is the game
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: for him. So my official rankings of these guys McNichols, Pachecko, Smith, Hunt,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: and then and then Bill and I just don't really
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: think I'll have much Bill today. If Bill beats me,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: that's that. I'm cool with that.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Bill gonna go for the kill. This is funny Andrew
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: picked up on it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: But that is the happy Gilmore, the ode to the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: what do.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: You say, Hey Hey?
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Down by the bay and then the thing when they're
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: in the little bar there. But that's the setup for
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: this slate.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: So the best part about this is Tamball can back
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: it up, hoop. I'm literally walking distance from eight Mile Road.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: My house is right off a eight mile way, far
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: away from the Detroit eight mile, but it's still off
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: of eight mile.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: And I've been around.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I mean there's different parts of it, for certain, but
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: when we were over there, I've been. I go there
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: every time. People are like, I'm like, man, it's not
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: even that bad. There's no real crime. I don't see anything, like, buddy,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: you're staying in the nicest areas of this city that
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: you could possibly be surrounded. It's like a bubble that
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: you're in. They're like, go down the street just five
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: minutes and you'll see and I'm like, okay, I trust you.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: And then you know, walking around, everybody's got their gun
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: in their pockets and different facts like okay, I probably
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: should just chill at this point. All right, wide receivers,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: let's go to you Hoop and stick with you on
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: that you mentioned earlier about Rice, You're like worthy. That
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: was when we were talking at the captain. But we
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: have a ton of other options on both sides. And
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I'm curious how you're going to be running this back
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: or what your thoughts are, because if you're thinking that
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: it's going to be the chiefs as you are, and
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: it's going to be which likely is, and then you've
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: got these commanders is coming back the other way. I
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: want to get your takes on Samuel McLaurin and then
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the more McCaffrey lane situation they got there.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna be playing a lot
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: at running back, so I will be playing these wide
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: receivers at are pretty high rate For me. The case
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: he stuff's easy, I'm gonna be I have a lot
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: of Mahomes, Captain, So if you're playing a lot of Mahomes, Captain,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I just don't see why I would x out any
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Chiefs wide receiver. He's willing to throw the ball to anybody,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: So I'll go all the way down to Thornton. We
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: talked about Thornton on the main Slate stuff. Probably not
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: you know, much of a main Slates play, but for
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Showdown absolutely. I mean, if he's gonna get fifty yard looks,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: fifty yard bombs, like that's all you need in Showdown,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: So I'm good with him. I'll have some Juju and
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown and then obviously Worthy and Rashi Rice or
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: you know, not much more to say. We already talked
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: about them with the captain. We all like them, and
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: the Captain obviously good with them. In the flex the
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Washington stuff definitely gets a little trickier just because I
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: think of the price points on these guys, and like,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: if you're playing Deebo or McLaurin, you're gonna have to
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: make some sacrifices to your lineup and they're they're expensive.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, Deebo's nine K and.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: We haven't projected for eleven Fantasy points. Like that's not great.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: And then Terry McLaurin, he's eight point four k. We
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: have him projected for ten Fantasy points. But for me personally,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: like I'll be playing these guys more than like Bill
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: or probably even more so than put check. I'll take
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: chances on Deebo and Terry McLaurin. It's an uncomfortable price point.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: The ownership has to be held in check for that reason.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I mean you got to you know, Rashid Rice is
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: right around here, Worthies right around here, Travis Kelcey's right
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: around here. Everyone's sticking those names over Deebo and McLaurin today,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: and I'll probably be I'm assuming overweight on Deebo and McLaurin,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: And then I'm fine mixing in those guys like if
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I get some like they're not great plays, but like Lane,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I don't mind having him in there a little bit.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: And then this Luke McCaffrey guy, they are hell bent.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I'm getting him involved. Then you got Chris Moore. The
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: problem with these guys are they're not full punts. So
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: it's like Lane, you're paying forty two hundred. Even if
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: he does something, he's probably got to do more than
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: just a little bit of something.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Same with McCaffrey.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: So now that I kind of talked through it, maybe
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I don't like these guys as much Lane McCaffrey more
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: because no one's like a full punt and it's like, man,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: like they got they gotta do something somewhat substantial probably
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: to be on the optimal team. So I'm gonna kind
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: of reverse that on the Washington guys. I don't love
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: them that much. With Deebo and McLaurin back, I'll just
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: play a lot. I'll play more than the field on
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Deebo and in McLaurin. I mean, they're gonna take up
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: a majority of the snaps out there. I don't think
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: there's like any limitations on McLaurin. I just wanted to
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: verify that. Yeah, I mean they've held him out for
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: a reason and he's been out for a while, so
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: that they want him, I'm assuming he's close to one
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: hundred percent.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen any anything to say otherwise.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm gonna be over on Deebo and McLaurin,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: and then I'm playing all the case, you guys, because
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I'll have a lot of mahomes Captain.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Big big sweat on the McCaffrey boys tonight. Man. Maybe
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: his brother Luke can out do Christian And they actually
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: did both play this week, so we'll have to see it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: It's been the case in the past week, you know,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: not on the same slate necessarily all the time, but
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: this is the spot this week where Luke could out
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: do his brother. Like you said, he's sort of been
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that guy for them, but now they got McLaurin back,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: it could be totally different title. What do you think
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: here with the wide receivers. One thing I looked at
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: just now and Hoop gave me two thoughts. One is,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: even though he doesn't like Bill, i'll go against someone what.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I get that, and I actually understand it fully. But
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: what's interesting to me, I would say, just looking at
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: it is Bill is much cheaper than Deebo and quite
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: still twelve hundred dollars cheaper even than McLaurin. He actually
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: has a better projection, better ceiling, and almost same ownership.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Yet you could just leave that money on the table
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: every line and you got to play at least somebody
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: from the other side. So if you are playing Deebo
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: or you are playing McLaurin, there's a chance if it's
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: not those guys or they're not or that it gets
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: spread out at the wide receivers, then it could be
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: just like I said, bill falls in the box gets
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: sixty yards on the ground and maybe that's all you
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: need from that side.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: So I think that's interesting.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: You can definitely leave the money from one of them
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: down to them, and you're not actually sacrificing anything really
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: except you're might even be gaining in the projections zone,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: but you are leaving money on the table and getting
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: more unique. So I saw that the other thing he
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: said when he goes against the lane McCaffrey more stuff,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: which I tend to agree with him on. It just
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: also made me think of like the balance build, because
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: if it's not gonna be those three and then you're
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: not sure if it's gonna be Juju and Taekwon and no,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: we're like, it could be anybody on the chief side
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: that could make it all work, but it also could
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: be nobody, and it may end up being something totally different.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: So when it's you know when you're having those guys,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: they're just gonna be like runbacks or with Mariota or
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I think, but what do you think with these wide receivers.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean your first point is exactly what I
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: was thinking, kind of why I like running backs more
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: than receivers. Like I'm good to be lower on Deebo
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: and Terry, I don't love him as much. I can
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: just drop down to Bill and Pacheco, leave money, not
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: give up much projection, and get more unique due to
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: the salary. So I'm gonna be playing more running backs
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: than these receivers. I don't like Commander stuff, honestly. I
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: think I prefer more and Lane just taking shots on
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: these cheape's who will be very low owned, and I
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: can pay up for Chief stuff more if I'm doing it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: Your second point, like, there are no punts on this slate,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Like the John Bates is really the only one with
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: you can say Ben Sanat, I guess at two hundred,
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: he's gonna get to a zero most of the time.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: Baits at one six probably still a zero. And then
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: you're into Noah Gray at two k is really the
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: cheapest one. More's two six Juju two four, Thornton two
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: to eight Kareem's three K. Like I like all these
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Chiefs guys like they're gonna be on the field. They
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: rotate around, Mahomes will throw to anybody that's open. Thornton's
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: a beast. Juju's in the slot PPR guy if he
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: gets in the box once. So I like the Chiefs
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: guys a lot more then the Commander's guys. I prefer
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: Commander's cheapies over the Spen since I like the Rice
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the Mahomes the other spens on the slate more that way. Man,
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: I the thing with Rice is just he's gonna be
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: so popular everywhere, Like you get one k difference down
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: to Worthy, but I think it is clearly, like someone
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: asks is Worth, I think it's gonna be Rice number
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: one the whole way. Worthy just has his deep shots.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Rice is just the underneath, better route runner, more of
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: a security blanket stuff, and you'll get Worthy over the top.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I guess I just I like running backs
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: more than receivers. I think for the most part today
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: the chat with.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Some Odebo being a running back, like treating him like
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: a running back. I'm not sure if I see it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I'll just seeing if there was.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: He gets some design runs, but I don't know how
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: you can.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like looking to see.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they'll put a prop on it or something, just
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: to see. Yeah, Deebo five and a half. Obviously you
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: can jam one in at the it's all baked in
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: like that. What I was trying to tell people anyway,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Like he's got a five and a half, can he
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: do it?
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, four and a half. Ain't no running backs got
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: a four and a half rushing pat.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like he can get an end around and make
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: it work. And you could view him as that for sure.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: But it's just it's that's any given slate if you
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: if you feel that way, I definitely think you should
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: land there. I guess my point was more how many
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: people do we have in the discord or people being like,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: oh if I had just done this, this one be
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: one thing. A lot of the times when people are
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: just building out a handbuild and they got the nine
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: grand left and they have to use somebody from Washington,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: they just click in Deebo because it fits. They feel
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: because he's the most expensive he has, that means he's
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the best. There is a ton of scenarios, and what
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: we were showing is especially if you got the stone
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: over at ship a Nation, you can see this. It's
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: you can see it all one place. He's got a
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: better projection Bill does at seventy two hundred, he's got
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: a better ceiling, and.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: He's got about the same ownership. So it doesn't mean
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: it will work.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: No, there's something to be said for they could be
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: down fifteen and they just throw ten balls to debo
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: and that makes that work. Yes, But we're saying when
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: it doesn't work, we get there with basically without sacrificing anything,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: and we have a way more unique lineup than that
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: situation that you're in now. So we're just we're always
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: hoping for the other side of that coin doesn't always work,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: but it's little things that you can look at like
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: that to try and make it happen. So I like
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: some of these guys, though, I guess to the you know,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the one fifty portfolio stuff for those that are playing mmy,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I think, like Hoop said, it's it's the chief side.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: You're just filling it in with these guys. It could
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: easily be Hollywood Brown, could be Juju, could be Thornton,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: not naming them all, just saying like it's definitely a possibility.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: So I like someone like Rice more in the Captain.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be played in both spots, but I want
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: him up top to hurt Mahomes or to take it
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: from the others, or to steal it from everywhere else.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: And then you can look for ways to get different
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: because the easy pairing with with Mahomes up top is
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: to start with Rice and go down. You could start
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: with Mahomes up top, get Hollywood worthy and somebody else
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: and do it that way and still be able to
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: fit something decent from the other side, maybe Mariota and
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: someone down low.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: The more I look at this late.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: The more I just think it's it's gonna be leaning
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: heavier to that side, but doing it with money left
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: on the table. If there's nine grand left play bill,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: if there's you know, instead of if you're if you've
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: got somebody you can punt to. It's like I'm fine
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: with like the Juju's and the Thorntons, hope to get lucky.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: It's gonna take luck, but it's it's that's the benefit
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: of those Mahomes.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Captain lineups.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: You don't necessarily you're not actually forcing yourself into the
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: corner just because he's the highest zone captain. He's the
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: highest on captain because he's most likely to be optimal
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: up top. But there's tons of ways to get different
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: both sides of this this board with Mahomes captains up top.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Whoop, I'll go back to you tight ends. Anything to add.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Here, yeah, I mean just uh, it is tough man.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: There is not many good cheap plays on the slate,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: and like there is, there's nothing just just looking through it,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: so like it, you know, it leads me to believe
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: like if you do go into like in opt I
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: haven't ran teams, like maybe I'll maybe we'll get back
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: to a dry run and just see what it gives us.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: But it leads me to believe that it might want
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: to try to get in some cheaper sort of captains
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: so you don't have to punt in the flex because
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: there's like there's nothing but yeah, at the tight end position,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: I'm Kelsey, I'm fine with I don't love him up top.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I'm fine in the flux. Same with Ertz Noah Gray
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: just looking like he's done like nothing. I think a
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: lot of people had higher hopes for him this season,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: but like just man, his highest total this year in
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: terms of fantasy points is four point seven fantasy points.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: And like, you know, Kelsey's obviously taking a step back
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: and he's still not emerging. But you know, one game
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: it could happen Baits. I guess you know. That's also
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: like not an exciting play, but those are like the
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: two cheapest viable options on the slate. Baits hasn't cracked
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: two fantasy points this year. His total hot his highest
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: total fantasy point game is one point nine. So like
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: it's rough, it is rough, But yeah, I'm good with
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: some Kelsey, go with some Ertz, and I guess I'm
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: gonna keep these other guys in but not uh yeah,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: not excited about it.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Title anything to add?
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I know you mentioned Baits earlier, we talked about Gray
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: nowational tight end day Gray can fit into that rhyme
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: as well earlier. Who would we What do you say?
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe we play a little Noah Gray today?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: What do you think? Title? Who do we got?
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I really not much more to add
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: about hoops point. It's just like I guess as Bensonott
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: gets one catch for seventeen yards two point seven, Like,
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: is that enough?
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Maybe?
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, if Mahome's right, maybe so. I guess I
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: won't ex them for that reason if I'm playing ten
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: teams or less. Again, like most people, though, I'm just
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: avoiding that bill And I think that's also why you
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: can go back to Chiefs Captain, like if you like
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: it or you think they can get you sixteen today. Yeah,
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: I mean it could be enough. Some of these mid
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: tier stuff, like the Checko of the World I ert
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: is my favorite, probably at price, if having to choose,
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: it's really gross. I think the running backs are just
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: what I'm gonna keep hammering, like, I.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Know it's there.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: Like Kareem Hunts. I know he's a little more expensive
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: than Gray and Baits, but I definitely like him more.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, at least no, he's gonna get to this
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: touches and have a chance to do something, whereas these
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: guys might not even get a target.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it could be the case. I've been
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: thinking that more too. I don't much a tight end.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely in on. Kelsey already talked about this in
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the flex. I like Ertz, I don't think a captain
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: spot for me, will have to see how it all
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: shakes up. Maybe again a very small percentage. If it
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: falls into my portfolio, I'll just let it run. But
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: it's not something I'm trying to get towards. I think
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Kelsey though, I'm definitely interested in, only because he's much
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: cheaper than Rice Mahomes.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: It's just a way to get different there.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: He's a guy that can get to if they get
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: down there to think about guys like Mahomes and even
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: last night. I know it's painful for some, but like
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: when Rogers gets down there, he's never giving it to
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: the running back. He decides the calls like the coach does,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: but it's like he's like, nah, I'm actually gonna do
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: this instead. That's how this is gonna work. And so
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: that's the same thing. I guess. You know, Andy Reid
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: and Mahomes obviously have a really good relationship, but I'm
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: sure there's still times and like I said, Mahomes runs
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: it more and all this stuff, so it's really tricky.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: But Kelsey is a guy that he can throw a
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: couple too. But the more you said, I don't have
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: too much to add on Kickers d we already hit
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: on kickers and literally broke down the damn airport route
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: if they gotta get one in tonight.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: So I don't think we have too much to add there.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: And defense is even a captain we talked about, but
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: title you might have talked me into it. Kareem, the
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Kareem of the crop. You could rise to the top.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: We got to talk you into it. He's gonna get
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: design touches or what I think.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: It's like just one thing I'm seeing here is like
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: they okay, here's this is like all art verse science stuff,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: but like Tua yesterday. Oh this guy got one eye?
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Oh does he well, yo, wanna is better than two? Apparently,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: because now you can see perfectly. And this guy throws
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: four touchdowns all of a sudden. And so anytime they
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: make a stupid update about someone just for no reason,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: it's this is like just tons of years playing it.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, what are they saying that for what's
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: going on? Someone saw something or whatever. But the main
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: thing being super affordable.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: He fits.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: He's that guy that can make the mahomes captain's work.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: He's guys, you can even put it with whatever you
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: want to do with Kareem. I might even put him
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: up top. And my thinking is he's the guy that
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: when they get down there sometimes they just like to
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: jam it in with and.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: That would really make your entire lineup.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Good on a guy that's currently looking to be one
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: percent at the captain and again, he's way more of
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: a flex play.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: What made me think of that too, is the Breshard Smith. Oh,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: this guy's a young gunner.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Da da da da.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: We do this about every guy every week, like yeah,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: and one week they have a good week and the
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: rest it's just the flavor of the month.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Why would they go away? Like Hunt can definitely jam
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: it in.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a spot where we could
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: see him being involved. So I don't know, you sold
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: me on that without even meaning to, but I'm in
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: I mean the price, the ownership, just to your Rogers stuff.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, when you gotta deal with Mike McCarthy for
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: so long and then Arthur Smith, I'd be doing the
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: same thing. Screw this call, I'm doing my own.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So Josh, this is right, this is I mean,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Josh has been here since like he's years with us,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and I love that.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: This is what everybody says, and you might be right.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: It's just my takeaway is nothing says it's tonight. That's
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: what we always get into. Oh, Matthew Golden is gonna crush.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: And then we had a pretty good game, what like
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: week five or.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Something like that.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those first four weeks when everyone kept trying to
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: predict it.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: It wasn't there.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: These guys are gonna be awesome, It just takes time.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Sometimes nothing says gonna be tonight's slate. And then Josh
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: added this, so I like a little You know, we
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: do leverage Lane on Saturdays, we can do narrative Street
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: on Mondays for sure, says I like Kelsey. He needs
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: two touchdowns for the all time Chiefs record, and it's
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: National tight End week and he's following up grown man
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Tucker Kraft, who was my captain last night. I was
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: very thankful for that. This guy just was beasting boys around,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: just absolutely slamming them on their heads.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: It was incredible to watch.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: So maybe maybe maybe Travis tries to make up for
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: it and and gets us set for the weekend here.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Who what are you thinking?
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Anything else you want to add Kickers, D's fan duel
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: anything else.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Uh, the one thing that definitely stands out looking at
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Kickers and D's well, we already, like you said, we
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: already covered the Kicker, got the full tracking of Mac
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Gay and the potential, you know, potential path that commanders go.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Bucker is always solid Chiefs D for being a two
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: touchdown favorite, not as expensive as they've been kind of
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: pricing these sort of defense there's only forty four hundred
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: and without a ton of value. I think it's going
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: to be another slate where the defensive, this defense gets
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: steamed up.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: We are showing, Okay, we got it.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Up there already up to like thirty four percent, that's
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: what no we have, we have twenty five, Saber has
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: thirty four.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: I think it's probably closer to Saber.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: I think it probably is that thirty three range, just
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: because we don't have a ton of cheap options. They
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: are two touchdown favorites and only forty four hundred, not
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: much interesting. Commanders. We got to see the Gay situation
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: and then I'm in on, definitely always in on Bucker.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: So I love love Bucker when he's playing.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: This would be a big game.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: That's That's what I'm saying, Like, yeah, if Rashida Smith
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: gets to tonight, you need it, you're right showdown. But
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: it's that that would be a big game for him.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: So that's all I'm saying is it doesn't mean that
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be tonight. I think Bishard Smith's awesome. It's
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: it's fun to watch, but when you got three running
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: backs the chiefs Andy Reid Mahomes, and fifty receivers or
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: people that can catch the ball, it just makes it
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: really trickering. Like, yeah, it's like a massive game. Oh,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: you're talking about Kelsey. I was gonna say, yeah, I
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: think Kelsey's gonna be fine. I'm already in on Kelsey,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: So you have me confused there. I was gonna say
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: that'd be a phenomenal game for Brishard Smith with these
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: track records. But let's see somebody else said something else
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: to Brandon. You should go back and rewind We definitely
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: had a good conversation about Mackay earlier, so you can
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: figure out exactly how it's gonna go. Kenny's adding more
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: tid bits in here. Juju still ran like half the
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: snaps with Rice back, but the problem is none of
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: us know, with Rice playing more snaps this week, we're
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: all kind of guessing.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why you just kind of you play all
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: those guys. I mean, especially if you're going heavy Mahomes Captain.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, you got to get a healthy dose of
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: all the pass catchers because it could be could be anyone.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we like playing the game versus trying
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: to predict all that shit, because nobody knows until you know.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: People want to run it back and flip all the car. Yeah,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: when the cards slip over, it's very easy to tell. Yeah,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I'm you don't going to sell me on Kelsey, Josh.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Now you clear that up. I'm definitely
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: in on Kelsey tonight. I promise you that Kelsey has
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: won me a lot of money in Chief showdown slates.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: You can play them with Mahomes, no problem. I think
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be fine.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's all good stuff.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Title anything else you want to add here, man or
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: anything on the fan duel side of stuff that you saw.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: Fandel looks pretty similar. Value looks tough again. Running backs
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: for the most part will be lowish own. I do
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: think Patchecko maybe a little higher though due to just
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: the half point PPR stuff, and Deba like Deebo will
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: be completely forgotten all the way up at eleven k
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: Rashee Rice is more than Patrick Mahomes.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's yeah, why the.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Mariota price too. Mariota's only six hundred less than then Mahomes.
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: That's crazy, Yeah, absolutely crazy. I mean, that's gonna Mahomes
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: Legit might be fifty.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: You've probably don't.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: I haven't.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: I'm playing as much fan duel for single games, so
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: I don't want to throw it a bad number. But
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: Mahomes is going to be extremely popular at MVP on
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: fandle just for he projects. It's even a wider margin
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: that his projection to the next highest due to the
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: full point versus half point, and he's not even the
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: highest price. So just know he'll he'll be very highly
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: owned over there.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: You gotta you can say the same line, but you
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: gotta sub in the name Tambo for Hoop because Tambo
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: is the new FanDuel guy.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: And yeah, but also it's all Ham. I just use
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: ham stuff and then put it all together. So if
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: you're if you're ever wondering, it's like it's the best
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: part of it. Everyone's like, oh, he's got you know.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I like the conspiracy theories.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: The show's over.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: It's fun to get to this. The conspiracy theories hoop
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: where it's like these guys can't make any money, so
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: they just go start a site and then they talk
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: you into stuff that's not even legit and they go
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: do something different and play their own stuff.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: It's like they trick you.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: It's like, yes, that that's exactly how it works. Yeah.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: You can literally see my lineups and they gear up
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: directly towards hoops or ham spandul slate plans because the
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: pricing's different over there. And I've liked it this season
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: quite a bit where they've done it even for this
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: slate is a prime example. They they fixed their showdown game.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: They're giving rake back that doesn't exist anymore. Like you
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: barely get a ham sandwich from Speaking of ham, you
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: barely get a ham sandwich from DraftKings right now, so
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: you know, not sponsored by them.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I love their site. We talk about other stuff.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Dan the Man, my VIP is awesome, but you don't
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: get very much from DraftKings. I mean, other pros have
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: it on and talked about it publicly. It's you don't
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: get too much. And I'm certainly not getting anything now
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: saying it publicly, but it's that's fine. I don't get
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: anything from them either way. But I think Fandel's trying,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: and I like some of the pricing a job like
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: yesterday Bijon and JT two hundred bucks apart. Let's okay,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: let's see how this works, and then you got some
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: prices that are down from that. They're tearing things out
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit better. So I've enjoyed it. I think
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: it's a fun experience and I love dfs, so I'll
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: play anywhere that the game is good. And so far
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: it's been really good on Fanduels, so I'm happy about that.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, done a good job.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, even going back to you know, last year,
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: we do those cap game shows and kind of compare
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the two sites, and you know, this is going on
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: like two years in a row now where they've done
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: a much better job with the superstars and the studs
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: getting out ahead of it. You know, this is the
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: first week that DK actually priced up those top end
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: running backs like they're all seven K basically all season.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: You know, mid seven FanDuel. You know, had those guys
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: in the ten K range where they belong a while ago.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: And I know the pricing is a little bit different,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: but you know it's all relative to the other players,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: and they've done a much better job of pricing the
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: high volume superstars than DK is.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all bashing. Anyone who cares these days, might
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: just call it everybody our man g rise and I
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: love the panic, as Mooltman says, Amen Drackings, Secks, the
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: gateways FanDuel is way better.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is what it is.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: We'll still take our elite gift when we get there,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: but it's it's not meant to be that way. I
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: think people forget that too. Kenny said it good is
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: it's they provide us a good ecosystem to play. It's
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: We love the game. It's always going to exist. I'm
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: not shitting on the completely.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I was just saying fan Duels definitely step up this
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: season and tried to make things better.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: They we got to give credit when credit is due.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: They've listened, They've made the contests better and even tonight,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I love this shit. Like my home is going to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: be sixty percent of the MVP, Rice is going to
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: be eight to ten percent. On DraftKings, it's like twenty
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: eight to eighteen. It's like there's such a delta over
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel where you can just use that to your advantage.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: And yeah, Knowles is the goat cheut out the Nolesman
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: absolutely crushes at DFS and it's Gee Rising's buddies. I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: was hanging out with him. I got to meet him
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: last year. Just an awesome dude. So title, any any
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: final thoughts from you we're getting out of here.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, good luck everybody.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Good luck, everybody hoop final thoughts before we get out
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: of here? They you know the marketing we kind of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: went through on the side today, But no Manscape commercials.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Are we wearing?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Are we wearing our Halloween costumes on Thursday? He's so serious?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: What are what are you all Halloween's costume?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I don't got one, So yeah, well you got put
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: that spaghetti strap back on, get that spaghetti's trap back there.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Alloween costume on Thursday.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I want to shot it bad right now, it's sitting
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: right here, but I can't.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wear it on Thursday to the show.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll have to whip something up, but yeah no,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: let's keep this momentum heading in the right direction. A
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: lot of big community wins and you know, like I said,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: when when things start to head in that direction, you
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: get the big pop at some point. So anticipating some
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: big time success again tonight.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to my man Kenny Z too. The
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Kennys are great people.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Kenny W Kenny Wilman, Hamhawk, canny Z out there. Just
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: everybody love to see it. So a fun show. Guys,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: we appreciate you. If you can do us a favor
• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: the channel as we continue to grow it. Good luck
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: tonight in your contest. That's gonna do it for this
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: one guys, for whoop for title, and for myself to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: tagging tambo Leedship
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: Its home plans.